The chaingun shield is actually starting to be my favorite chaingun mod. It does slow you, but at the same time protects you against an appreciable amount of damage, and doesn't prevent you from double jumping and dashing unlike the destroyer blade (in fact, dashing into enemies with the shield up will interrupt them); and unlike the looks suggest, the shield actually protects you from ALL SIDES, not just the front (yes, even the burning ground from Archviles). The mastery on it is the cherry on top of the cake, allowing you to interrupt whatever you were shooting at if you landed enough hits with the shield up.. even super heavies, which are prime targets for this to happen. The turret mode has better DPS of course, but the shield offers you extra safety and gives more controlled firepower, allowing you to profit more from glory kills... and the damage per bullet remains the same, it's just that one shoots faster, while the other gives you extra time to shoot from relative safety (also, it bothers me to not know exactly how much of a fire rate increase the turret mode actually is)
I love the chaingun shield mod as well. Both mods are excellent. Like the turret mod is awesome to take down a lone Baron of Hell, he will be get stunned easily by the turret. The shield mod is awesome to clear trash and mid level demons without having to move around. You can just sit in place and shoot everywhere.
Stop and think for a six seconds? I think you meant stop and laugh at literally any amount of damage for 6 seconds while still firing from a chaingun. When you on nightmare, have like 30 hp and there is 2 to 4 mancubuses closing on you - Shield is literally the only thing that can save your armored ass from being whooped all the way to Urdak.
Remote detonate is amazing as long as you know how to use it. Using it at mid range with flame cannon creates a ton of armor and it also is great for dealing massive damage and staggers to large groups of enemies.
The lock-on is just so much better at removing high threats from a fight instantly. Whiplash, cacodemon, revenant, and hell knights all die with one lock on. The other heavies such as mancubus, pain elemental, and arachnotron will die with one lock on and then a switch into the ballista. Also with the lock on you can shoot and keep moving without having to look at where the bullet is going like you do with remote detonation.
@@Silveraxis18 Indeed, the detonation is not very useful, alternative methods is to fire at the ground or use a grenade. The lock on can down any many Heavy Enemies.
@@Silveraxis18 Ok Lockon is insane for the whiplash I just tried it. I'll have to put a lot more time into using it because I totally skipped it in my first playthrough. Side note - But Using it on Cacpdemon daemon's is a total waste when its so much more efficient to use a sticky bomb or a grenade. Instead of spending 3 rockets you can spend one sticky grenade and get a free glory kill.
TeaPea102938 yes true about the cacodemon. It’s best to use either a grenade launcher or arbelest mod for the ballista. I was simply making a point at how useful the rocket lock on is.
I agree the Destroyer Blade does take a while to charge, but once you master it, it makes the Gauss cannon look like a pistol. Best weapon mod in the game for damage.
Remote detonation has a lot of uses. I love using it to fight the Marauder, because you can shoot it towards his side and explode it behind him to stagger him.
Great video man! I agree with most of your choices, though I would have to disagree about the energy shield mod on the chaingun, I found it very useful especially on nightmare difficulty when you need all the help you can get. Stopping all enemy damage is pretty insane to me, and I find it just as useful as mobile turret.
Thanks! Yeah, the shield does have it's uses. There is just so much going on in the game that changing weapon mods mid combat is something I almost always forget about. I can think of a couple of situations where the shield would have come in handy.
the remote detonate is amazing for dealing with the marauder both at range, and as a second hit on him after stunning him with the super shotgun, dont knock it till you try it
@@RhysClark97 yeah but at close range using it you risk self inflicted damage and damaging his shield which spawns his dog and wastes ammo, much more efficient in the long run to play against his weaknesses
@@RhysClark97 and the wait for him to attack is very short compared to the time it takes to kill him with the remote detonator since it will take quite a few shots even if you do land all of them
My personal experiance based modifications ranking. *Note: This has been made before i watched the video* *Combat Shotgun:* Sticky Bombs - Always reliable in most situations, with many uses. A solid counter to Mancubi's, Arachnotrons, Revenants, Cacodemons and Marauders. Full ugrade makes it even more reliable. Full auto - A high DPS fast fire ratio damage source. Mostly a situational mod, since it uses up a lot of shotgun ammo and slows you down. Super Shotgun is a better alternitive. *Super Shotgun:* Meathook - Nothing much to say about it. Useful in all sutuations, used for offense or running away. Even more useful with the fire upgrade. Great counter to Marauders. *Heavy cannon:* Percision Bolt - A very heavy counter towards Mancubi's, Arachnotrons and Revenants. Also able to one shot most folter enemies. A must-have for makyr drones. Micro Missiles - Not as useful as the 2016 counterpart. Situational, pretty allright at taking out a large crowd of folters. Much better with the never-ending upgrade, but still less useful than the Percision Bolt *Chaingun:* Energy Shield - Always a reliable modification. Able to tank most damage dealt while also dealing damage, not restrictng movement. One of the weapons with both very good mods that require switching. Mobile Turret - Very high DPS, destructive and unstopabble force. The shield takes a defensive approach when the turret goes all on offense. Best used against Hell Knights, Dreadknights and Barons of Hell. *Plasma Rifle:* Heat Blast - A mod that pretty much praises you for just using it. At stage 3, deals mass amount of damage while also disturbs most of enemies. With an upgrade, deals more damage after stage 3 shockwave. Great counter to Doom Hunters Microwave Beam - Too situational. Takes a lot of time to blast a heavy demon while also restricts your movement. The one use however that i found for this mod is checking the health of your opponent - The bar below never goes down and gives you an understanding of how hurt a demon is. Can also be used to finish off some demons. Pretty good with the flame belch. Also pretty good at taking out the Doom Hunter's shield. *Ballista:* Arbalest - The ballista itself is a heavy counter to flying enemies. With the mod, you're pretty much guaranteed to one shot a cacodemon, revenant in air and 2-3 shot a Pain Elemental. Can be used as a sticky bomb. Good counter to marauders. Destroyer Blade - Great if used smart. The Destroyer Blade hinders your movement drastically, so it's best to use it under cover. Very high damage dealting AOE shot that one shots folter and some heavy enemies, staggering, also dealing mass amounts of damage. Tho in my opinion it's better to use Remote Detonation Rocket Launcher for taking out groups, since it doesnt restrict movement. *Rocket launcher:* Remote Detonate - Very useful against large groups of demons and for hindering heavy attacks. With an upgrade, the explosion is bigger making it even more effective. Be aware tho, that you may end up accidentally blasting a rocket in your own face. Lock-On Burst - Great for taking out a single demon or two if the upgrade is aquired. One rocket barrage can take out or severly hinder most heavy enemies. Very useful against mobile targets like Whiplashes and Prowlers. Also one of the weapons that will have you switching mods quite frequently. *BFG:* Unmakyr - Yes i know its a seperate weapon, but considering that the button to switch it is the same as the mod switch button i will consider this a mod. Eitherway, it's very situational most of the time. Use this if you see no fun in blasting everything with the BFG or if you want to deal heavy damage to a heavy demon and still be able to glory kill it. Pretty useful with the flame belch combo against very heavy demons.
I disagree on the microwave beam. Its power isn’t immediately obvious, but stunning them for a second to see their health is OP. Not to forget it stuns them post beam so you can put down a few shots.
@@AquaGaming1607 And mastered (Or maybe max out idk) it can stun multiple demons if they are close enough to the targeted demon, which is so broken if you can stun multiple for few seconds it makes it like infinite freeze nade with lower range for easier kill when switching to other weapon. Microwave beam is for me best mod for plasma rifle, because I always forget I even have heat blast selected and most waste its charge. Even when I use heat blast when I actually want, I feel it doesn't do anything. Though it is good to take out weak points, even when you don't have ammo, or when nades are on cooldown and you get crowded (which for me is very rarely).
Bro remote detonate is like top 3 mods in the game! especially with the mastery upgrade. Plus the chaingun shield is a must on the higher difficulty settings. being invincible from all sides for any amount of time let alone 6 seconds WHILE SHOOTING, JUMPING & DASHING is priceless.
Also blasphemy!!! Micro missiles?!?? Are INSANE when you unlock the endless volley. They do insane DPS on heavier targets as you can unload 75 mini missiles into a target in seconds. It’s no joke with a quad damage and a heavy demon in your face.
Byabit Yeah - I was using the shield and chain gun on the flying boss that lights up the floor. The shield soaks up the annoying projectiles till you can strip her shields and shotgun / blood punch her.
Thanks for the guide, very well made! Here are some other mod uses I've found: > Bottomless Micro missiles are awesome against the last 2 bosses in the game. Reason being is you can reliably do a lot of damage while moving at top speed. > Full auto shotgun can be used to falter knights early in the game until you get the chaingun. > The chaingun shield is great at protecting you from fodder and ranged attacks while you kill a single pursuit enemy (knights, whiplash, or an already damaged baron). Once it's done, you have to move though since other enemies will have caught up. > The microwave beam and fully upgraded precision scope can both cause damage to a group of enemies by targeting a fodder enemy in the middle of that group. That being said, I only use the plasma rifle for shield guys, so the mods on it aren't important to me. > For some reason, I like remote det better than lock on burst... I don't have a good reason, so it might be personal preference.
Yeah I agree for the Rocket Launcher. The remote detonate gets better especially when the Proximity upgrade is put in place require you to focus less and the Mastery is good as well. And honestly the mastery for the Lock-On is probably the most annoying mod in the game just because it at first you upgrade the lock on to go faster then you master the mods to get two lock-on just for it to take the original amount of time. Makes no sense and I hate that once you lock on if the demon turns a corner the rockets aren’t smart enough to follow. They just go into the wall. And if you lock on half the time a another demon will just jump in front of them 😂
Destroyer blade is one of the best mods. You can just disintegrate everything and it doesn't slow you down if you use bars, jumppads or even a simple double jump. And you don't have to charge it fully every time. You can charge it to 1 or 2 stage to destroy prowler, carcass or someone else. You could also use a cryogrenade and 3 stage of destroyer blade to instantly kill a group of heavy demons. You can even use blade+2 times lock on rockets+meathhook+supershotgun+bloodpunch to kill tyrant
Having played only a little, I picked the same mods at first except for the rocket launcher. I feel like this mod deserves more love as it is a great way to deal AoE damage and hit fast demons that are not in clear sight. It can also hit the back of pinkies facing you if you use it right which is something not many weapons can do. I remember a fight in DOOM 2016 in particular in UN where I found this mod to be a life saver (in Lazarus Labs a room filled with boxes and imps near the end). I would admit though that with weak spots and such it's probably not as good anymore and lock on seems to be a little better than in 2016.
Every mod has it's utility for sure (except perhaps for the micro missiles), but my point was to provide the best "first mod for each weapon", and in that case I think it is undoubtedly better to pick the lock on mod first. I'll give the mod another try though!
Both Lock-on and Remote are interesting in Doom Eternal, however the Lock-on is more interesting at first because it allows you to insta kill whiplash, hellknight & dreadnight
The shield mod for the chaingun is actually great against any melee demon (pinkies/nightmares): if you see one charging you you can just pull out chaingun, activate the shield and dash into the guy, dashing 2-3 times ensures a stagger on a pinky. It works against barons of hell as well, on nightmare it takes about 15 dashes to kill....yeah not the most practical way to kill them but it's kinda fun
Great video, but I do like the microwave beam Plasma gun mod as it's great for killing a line of enemies as it will penetrate through their bodies. It's also nice because, on the kill, its shock wave can take out nearby demons.
I prefer heat wave. It's very useful against stronger enemies like Baron's. Why? Because not only does it do a good amount of damage but it falters them allowing you to get in more damage, plus heat wave can take out tons of normal enemies in one shot. It's one of my favorites.
Disagree, with the mastery, the destroyer blade is really strong, even then, a full charged blade basically wipes out an entire arena if aimed right, and basically takes half health off some of the most powerful demons in the game. The way it basically just chops all demons in half including the arachnatron and the fatbois is killer. The mastery allows you to fire a more focused blade at any point too, so if you just wanna kill the arachnatron, you only have to charge for a few seconds.
Full auto is good once you get the salvo extender on it because then demons drop lots of shells so you can use it to kill fodder and get back the ammo you used Micro-missiles are great if you need to deal good damage to a target but don't have time to properly aim at him Remote-det is good in those big open arenas because you will be able to see and time your rocket to kill/stagger tons of fodder at once Destroyer blade is also good for killing tons of fodder in a big open arena Microwave beam is good when one heavy comes at you, or to check a heavy's health mid battle The mods you mentioned probably are the best, but the other mods do have uses
Precision bolt is perfect in world spear master level against the drones, but I absolutely love the micro missiles, feels more action packed than the chaingun.
A super shotgun with flaming hook is so helpful in combat areas and boss fights too. Give me that extra armor any time. You don't even have to mod ballista. It's a good weapon on its own to deal a quick damage to larger enemies.
But it's always pretty clear when you're in an area where there's holes on the floor that the tentacles can pop up. Seems like a waste of a rocket tbh.
Take it from someone who has beaten Ultra Nightmare, you cannot go full offense or full defense, so the “best defense is a great offense” statement is wrong. Even on UN the ChainGun energy shield saves you from a whole Icon of Sin punch.
Also the Doom Eternal DLC in the microwave mod becomes essential for dealing with one of the other ambient demons or particularly the spirit is the spirit can only be damaged with that mod
Tip to new players: get the praetor suit upgrade that lets you see all the secrets on the map. Make sure you get all of them so that you find extra modbots, batteries and sentinel crystals. Also do the challenges for batteries so you can unlock shit in the fortress. Because, what's better than the best mods? How about *all the mods*
I started playing doom recently and after playing the game a considerable amount. And I agree with most of this except the destroyer blade. FYI if you know where enemy’s spawn you can one shot almost every heavy enemy. VERY USEFUL, don’t sleep on this!
The micro missiles are extremely overpowered with the mastery. Although it chews through your ammo, if you use your chainsaw effectively you will decimate your enemies. Its basically a more effective version of stock(basic) chaingun.
Imo, chaingun has the best mods. Both are pretty useful in their own right. One is defense, the other is straight up offense. Like you said "allows you to kill in 6 seconds" and "allows you to think for 6 seconds".
i think the microwave beam is the best mod for plasme rifle because it can help you take down bigger demons and it can also stun more demons if the beam goes through other demons, but it desnt work on bosses and marauder
full auto is so good with the mastery, micro missels can falter and deal some good damage to heavies, microwave beam is good to stun and to see how much health does an enemy has and if you play the ancient gods its the way to kill a spirit, remote detonation can falter every demon with the mastery and its pretty strong too, ballista i guess they are both good destroyer blade is underrated, the shield is so good you can bully double dash a pinky and it will stagger, it can take out a tyrant quickly and it's a quick getaway for sticky situations!
The way to do it is use shield to deal damage and gather enemies and then send the shield out to stun all the enemies that closed in on you, allowing you enough time to swap to destroyer blade, fire an ice bomb and unleash the destroyer blade on all the demons encased in ice.
Great vid! I have to agree about the sticky bombs. As soon as I saw that one, I immediately unlocked it. It's been my main weapon the majority of the game. I only use the auto to get through game challenges. I have to disagree about the energy shield. I actually think it's a great mod, along with the mobile turret. It's bailed me out a number of times.
Ultra nightmare mode I wouldn’t even contemplate doing the boss without energy shield on the chain gun. *That flying skank (who lights up the floor) is a pain in the arse.* Lock on rockets take to long and often it’s better to wait for her to finish the floor attack and start throwing the blades of light. The energy shields on the chain gun soak those up while you hammer her life bar. You can strip her life and shotgun her before the energy shields run out usually.
Micro missiles are okay but you should really only use the Assault Rifle for the Precision bolt and use the plasma rifle as your backup until you get the Arbalest and the Chaingun and reverse the rolls. Both shotgun mods are great too although Grenades have more use early on and against Cacao Demons. Both mods of the Plasma Rifle are useful but the Heat Blast is definitely better. I think you kind of underplayed lock on missiles because it's very good if you get the right upgrades, and remote burst is good for doing combos with the Arbalest at a distance where the Meathook wouldn't be useful.
Gotta disagee on the microwave beem. The best way to use it is to stun mobile enemies (not waiting for it to finish them off which takes too long) and then finish them off with either a quick balista strike or rocket volley. It's essential for whiplashes and prowlers, and also very useful against knights and barons.
the microwave beam is decent is you pick a target at the back of a group as you can actually stop lots of stacked up demons in their tracks. Works well against heavy demons just to give a moment to breathe
In my experience, the MOBILE TURRET mode of the CHAINGUN does NOT even use more AMMO per/second than the base Chaingun +/- Shield mod; on the contrary, it actually CONSUMES LESS: roughly 10 rounds per second, in my estimation. The only difference, as far as I can tell, is that there is a ramp up time of maybe 0.5 seconds before the base Chaingun +/- Shield mod reaches its maximum firing rate of something in the realm of 12 - 15 rounds per second. Also, watch the 2 videos of each mod killing the Mancubus, i think, and you will see there there is effectively no practical difference in the damage output of the turret mode. I counted in the 1-one-thousand, 2-one-thousand, 3-one-thousand style, and the turret mode preview/tutorial video killed the Mancubus is ~4 seconds... the base Chaingun +/- the Shield mod killed a Mancubus in ALMOST the same time -- roughly ~4.5 seconds. Now you must keep in mind that in the tutorial videos, they are not precisely duplicating the aiming of the other, so it's ENTIRELY POSSIBLE that the hardly noteworthy ~0.5 second increase on length of kill w/ the base Chaingun +/- Shield mod was due to either (a) less efficient use of weak point hitboxes, or (b) within an acceptable margin of error. /-//--///> I just had a thought. My estimated rate of fire for the base Chaingun being roughly 50% higher than the MOBILE TURRET mod activated, and the MOBILE TURRET's weapon model has 12 barrels, rather than the 8 barrels that comes on the base version. I'm thinking, since they kill things in roughly the same time, regardless, that the MOBILE TURRET ROUNDS could be actually doing 50% MORE DAMAGE, yet will consume 33% less rounds per a given timeframe than the base Chaingun [ + / - ] Shield mod. This would simply mean that the MOBILE TURRET mode is more AMMO EFFICIENT, allowing you to fire it for longer. If you don't believe that the increase in damage (if it turns out to be ~50% on TURRET mod) would perfectly negate it's REDUCED RATE OF FIRE (~33% reduction on RATE OF FIRE w/ TURRET mod.. again, ~10 rounds p/sec vs ~15 rounds p/sec at base Chaingun's RAMPED UP RATE OF FIRE (~0.25 to ~0.5 sec ramp up time)). /-//--///---////> Put yourself in the dev's shoes. How else would you handle upgrading a base Chaingun to a TURRET mode with 50% more physical barrels on the weapon model? You can't increase the rate of fire AND each round's damage, as it would scale multiplicatively! Furthermore, just increasing rate of fire would increase DPS, but I bet money that a 33-50% increase in DPS resulting from an increased RATE OF FIRE would go beyond the designer's generally anticipated maximum DPS threshold, which has to be a universally relevant & applicable soft cap throughout the game's development that can be relied upon as a cornerstone, ruler, or a kind of universal constant. /-//--///---////> In that regard, the speed of light has many similarities, in that it has many fundamental limitations & implications about how the universe was created or came to exist, and what reasons there might be [if any] for its current state of existence, which is comprised of notable things, such as: universal equations, laws, & transcendental numbers, e.g.: Phi &, Pi, that the devs & designers can keep in the forefront of their mind as their game continues to develop. /-//--///---////> Two Core Equations that the devs must be acutely aware of the answers to, as well as how the general gameplay dynamic changes when the ratio representing the comparative differential between the results of the equations on either side of the colon( : ). Put simply: the further away from whatever ratio values the devs & designers have deemed to be generally ideal, the bigger the possible range of values, the wider the spectrum of possible outcomes will be to occur inside your game's: engine, environment, AI, animations, damage/defense/movement values from the ratio that relates both equations' results both well-tuned and imbalanced between: //==================================================//> Equation [1]: [ Demons_Max_HP / Players_Anticipated_Max_DPS ] + Average_Target_Acquisition_Time = Anticipated_Demons Time_to_Die Equation [2]: [ Demons_Movement_Speed * Average_Spawn_Distance_From_Player ] + Attack_Animation_Duration = Anticipated_Minimum_Pose_Risk_Time. //==================================================//> Numerically represent the the relational difference between the results of both equations using a... RATIO => { Equation[ 1 ][ Result ] } : { Equation[ 2 ][ Result ] } /-//--///---////> Both need to be precisely tuned, as if they are not in balance w/ one another, the more common it will possible for players to kill your demons before they're actually able to pose any risk whatsoever with a even a single outlier in the realm of high end weapon DPS, and this is obviously not interesting, engaging, challenging, OR fun. /-//--///---////> If the TURRET mod simply increased RATE OF FIRE, and left damage unchanged, it would increase the weapon's DPS, but it would also reduce the length of time you could continuously less loose firing uninterrupted (ESPECIALLY before you get the TURRET mod mastery which removes the overheat mechanic), and this would undoubtedly be comparatively lamer, gameplay FEEL-wise. /-//--///> I bet this is the exact conundrum that they found themselves in, and some 5head came along and thought to do what should've ran precisely contrary to what the difference in weapon model should've implied - more rounds per second. This would also do a lot to explain why they ADDED an overheat mechanic on the TURRET mode, as well: the cost of gaining the effect of your rounds doing 50% more damage (the actual practical difference here, since DPS stays the same, is that you do the same dmg per second with less ammo usage per second, at least up until you overheat the activated TURRET mod, until you earn/unlock the TURRET's weapon mastery that completely removes the overheat mechanic). Am i missing something?? lmao.. and unmodded or shield modded has no potential to overheat itself ever, whereas when using the turret mod you need to get the final weapon mastery before you regain that otherwise inherent trait of the Chaingun. Turret is one probably the shittiest weapon mod in the game, honestly -- especially when you factor in that it's direct competitor -- the shield mod for Chaingun -- is probable to be objectively the best mod in game, if not the flaming meat hook.
“The best defence is a good offence” I take this to another level by making fast quick combos to the point that the average bobs can’t react in time and die, provided I could experiment all the game mechanics you got yourself a tactician and launching quick hits with a short stun is the best, you keep your enemies at bay and chaingun is sorta a good example of quick combo, the mobile turret is too op to be true
I've never heard the way I play suggested. I just switch to the "best" (in my opinion) weapon for dealing with a certain enemy... Cacodemon: Arbalest or Sticky Bomb Mancubus: Heavy Cannon and Rocket launcher Arachnotron: Sticky Bomb and Super Shotgun DOOM Hunter: Laser Rifle, Full Auto and Lock On Hell Knight: Turret Dread Knight: Turret Baron: Turret Pinkies: Blood Punch Tyrant: Crucible Archvile: Crucible Carcass: Laser Rifle and Super Shotgun Whiplash: Ice Bomb and Rocket Launcher Prowler: Lock On Maurauder: Super Shotgun and Balista Pain Elemental: Lock On
Nah, mods aren't better or worse - they are more or less useful for one's current playstyle/level of play. Full-Auto is great (with unlocked Mastery) for experienced players as a finisher. Micro Missiles are great for beginners for early weapon combos, while Precision Bolt is used for some advanced quick-switch techniques. Microwave Beam stuns enemies for a short time and pretty much shows you their HP. Remote Detonation is great for getting armor (with Flame Belch), staggering enemies, killing Pinkies and Marauders.
Plasma rifle's heat blast is starting to be one of my favorites. It is great against stronger enemies like hell knights and everyform of them, barons, doom hunters, whiplashes etc. Because not only does it deal good damage, it falters demons giving you even more chances to deal damage. Chaingun shield is also another one of my favorites due to dash shielding and faltering demons, handcannon missles are also another good one cause once you upgrade them more and more they are powerful. Remote detonated rockets are also great against groups of normal enemies. Mixing all these up depending on the situation is really the key at beating higher difficulties.
Mobile turret is best mod during secret fights as you can dish out a ton of damage is a short window. Shield is a great mod against big enemies like the pain elemental and barons of hell as the stream of bullets continually falters them
For an experienced player, remote burst is one of the best if not the best mod in the game. It does large amounts of damage if you time it right and can splash to kill large groups of heavy monsters in a couple of hits. It’s even better for demolition of smaller fodder groups
I find that it needs to be fully upgraded to be any good, while lock on burst is good out of the gate, so if you have to pick one to get first, I would much rather go for lock-on.
I use the microwave beam to stay unlock enemies. Use the microwave beam quickly like a quick stun, then switch to another weapon quick stun switch to another weapon and then get all my shotgun ammo back with the full auto mod fully upgraded.
Sticky Bombs, Arbalest, and Mobile Turret are by far the best mods in the game. Sticky bombs is probably the most versatile mod in the game. Mobile Turret turns demons into Swiss cheese and the Arbalest is a one shot monster. And in terms of mastery I think they have the best as well. You get five shots instead of three before reloading for the Stickies which if you use it a lot you’ll know it’s a good upgrade. Unlimited Cooling for the turret is a no brainer and the Instant Salvo mastery for the Arbalest is probably the most rewarding for people who hit their shots with the Ballista.
I am still a little frustrated with the sticky bombs : in 2016 the projectile exploded INSTANTLY now there is a 1s delay and while it seems insifnificant, since the game is considerably faster that second makes a sensible difference and not for the better, even if you can now fire several projectiles in a row.
Scroubignon Yeah understandable once you understands it doesn’t explode instantly and how many it takes to kill each demon I kinda treat it like shoot and forget. I shoot and turn away knowing when they are dead so I can focus on someone else
Scroubignon Yeah. I understand the frustration and not blowing up instant but I think that’s the balance for them. They are one of the best for weak points, they kill almost all low enemies in one shot, and the upgrades for them are useful so the balancing for it is most likely that.
Full auto is GREAT when you master it. It turns tentacle rooms into annoying factories and smaller dudes into ammo bricks! One shot gets back 2/3 rounds! It’s great to stock up on super sg ammo or shotgun rounds.
Never had a problem dealing with tentacles. I use the SS, regular combat shotgun or plasma gun for them and never ran out of ammo due to them. The full auto mod is very limited in my opinion and the "getting back ammo" isn't super useful since getting ammo isn't hard.
monoespacial If you run dry on the harder difficulties it’s easy to use 2 /3 shells to turn it back into 20 using the mastery mod. Tentacles and also a room full of zombies is a great back up especially if you abused the chainsaw in previous fights. Then you have ammo to abuse the meat hook and ss again!
I actually found the Destroyer blade very useful. You just need to have high armor and health for it to work well when using it. It'll wipe out nearly everything in your path. It's an awesome weapon. I want one of them.
The micro missiles are best for heavy cannon in my opinion. In micro missiles you Can use a upgrade for the modification by speeding it up 75%. Also super shotgun mastery is worth is and easy. But the microwave beam is best for plasma rifle in my opinion. You should use flame belch then use the microwave beam when they are almost dead. Then it drops all the armor. And ballista the destroyer blade is worth the 4 second wait because for the damage. (Damage matters in hardcore games, idc about the wait.) But with that aside the rest of your opinion is what I agree with.
I actually think the micro missiles are a good option as I prefer to use to the sticky bombs to take out weak points as I don't have the time slow rune and as I haven't unlocked the chain gun yet (I got the game for Christmas) they are the best option for dealing with hell knights when early in the game as from what from what I've played two to three successful volleys of the missiles can stagger a hell knight
I don’t like it when people say one mod is better than the other, sure you can have a preference, I do, but saying that one is better is kinda unfair. I believe both mods to every weapon have their own advantages, in fact, there is not a single bad weapon mod in this game it just comes down to which one you use and how you use it
"Microwave beam is too situational" Once you get other weapons the heat blast becomes useless. Why should I charge the heat blast if I can do a ballista ssg combo for example? In the later game the beam becomes much more useful at stunning fast pursuing enemies such as pinkies, hell nights, dread nights, hell barons, and it even destroys the doom hunter's shield faster, which makes an amazing opening for a lock on combo. The beam is an amazing mod I would pick it over heat blast even in early game because it is so versatile.
Not really, the heat blast is still a better choice for a quick hard falter in a quickswitch combo considering you can passively charge it while getting glory kills. It's also the only thing that can stop an armored baron while its armor is still on
Personally I really like the energy shield on chaingun (though mobile turret is still better in my opinion) getting any sort of breathing room in eternal is hard to come by, and the power of 6 seconds of invulnerability with a minigun should not be underestimated. If they kept the remote detonation stuff from 2016 I'd be happy, but in eternal... I want to love it as much as I used to but the damage is too low to be worth the effort. Full auto and micro missiles fall into the "worse chaingun" category
I got the mobile turret upgrade first cause of it's pure destruction in DOOM 2016, but i feel like it's been nerfed. Everytime I use it my Health gets pretty low and shortly after I die. I personaly think it's useless and never used it at all. But the shield was a dream and was except for the Super-shotgun the only thing I used in the entire game.
I prefer the remote detonation than the lock on because you can do a lot of damage to them even when you're not paying attention to the rockets and the lock on to me is a waste of ammo
Yes, it's a really cool idea but it takes way too long, even for units like carcass. I had a carcass ready for a glory kill and the microwave beam started with like 20% still missing
Its really good for whiplashes and dread knights especially if you know that any damage you do to them will increase the microwave charge rate. Damage them from a distance and when they get close, microwave them which will stun them for as long as you microwave them + another second or two so you can easily lock them down.
I feel like the only way to make the microwave beam better is to not have it basically lock you in place and not have the beam break if you lose line of sight. Also it would be really good if the beam sort of branched out to any demons that come close to it so you can damage more at once.
Microwave beam in regular doom eternal: I’m useless Microwave beam in ancient gods: I’m very essential and you won’t get anywhere without me, it takes a lot of ammo but at least I can destroy the most annoying enemy in the game
In my normal play-through the shield wasn't very useful. On Nightmare 6 seconds of breathing time is a godsend. Honestly the charge time with the destroyer blade isn't the issue. Siege mode on 2016's Gauss cannon took about the same amount of time and was the most busted thing in the game. The difference is the destroyer blade doesn't have any upgrades that increase your move speed. Getting rooted to the spot is *very bad* in a game that's all about mobillity. Even the final upgrade for it is pretty meh. It only does enough damage to be worth charging when it's fully charged. Otherwise you're just paying extra to kill trash mobs. Use the plasma gun for that. It's a crying shame too because watching a fully charged destroyer blade sail across a battlefield and slice like 20 demons in half is *so satisfying*.
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The meathook is so good that they didn't even give you another option.
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@@marshmellomusic4466 someone ruined it
@@Idk23800 i, i did, its my contribution to go for 420
I feel like we missed out too tbh it could have been double cool
The meat hook level up completely has been a game-changer and a lifesaver to me in this game I'm in love with that gun I just wish I had more ammo😂
The chaingun shield is actually starting to be my favorite chaingun mod. It does slow you, but at the same time protects you against an appreciable amount of damage, and doesn't prevent you from double jumping and dashing unlike the destroyer blade (in fact, dashing into enemies with the shield up will interrupt them); and unlike the looks suggest, the shield actually protects you from ALL SIDES, not just the front (yes, even the burning ground from Archviles). The mastery on it is the cherry on top of the cake, allowing you to interrupt whatever you were shooting at if you landed enough hits with the shield up.. even super heavies, which are prime targets for this to happen.
The turret mode has better DPS of course, but the shield offers you extra safety and gives more controlled firepower, allowing you to profit more from glory kills... and the damage per bullet remains the same, it's just that one shoots faster, while the other gives you extra time to shoot from relative safety (also, it bothers me to not know exactly how much of a fire rate increase the turret mode actually is)
And thats why Chaingun is MVP weapon of Doom Eternal. That shield is only things that helped me beat Icon of Sin on Nightmare.
@@exploertm8738 What is MVP?
I love the chaingun shield mod as well. Both mods are excellent. Like the turret mod is awesome to take down a lone Baron of Hell, he will be get stunned easily by the turret. The shield mod is awesome to clear trash and mid level demons without having to move around. You can just sit in place and shoot everywhere.
@@fwostyshrakes1870 Most Valuable Player, means the best
But it can't block marauder's melee attack
Stop and think for a six seconds? I think you meant stop and laugh at literally any amount of damage for 6 seconds while still firing from a chaingun. When you on nightmare, have like 30 hp and there is 2 to 4 mancubuses closing on you - Shield is literally the only thing that can save your armored ass from being whooped all the way to Urdak.
The mental image of Doomslayer laughing behind the energy shield while unloading bullets made me chuckle. 😄
“I AM BULLETPROOF!!!”
-Heavy Weapons Guy, 2011.
Doom slayer is so good he doesmt need a shield
That’s a hilarious way of stating it!😆😆
isnt that why you hafe to move constantly and the turret mod will stop them in there tracks
Can we appreciate this finisher for a second 6:46
That's a satisfying Arachnotron kill with the Destroyer's Blade right there.
I miss the Gauss Cannon’s siege mode from 2016. That put out hella damage per shot.
you forgot to mention they penetrate through targets too.
a single shot, in a hallway, could destroy a lot of heavies demon.
yea it was sick, but it totally broke the game so I understand why it’s gone
Jacob Barton which it was replaced by a mod that literally cuts through hellspawn like butter.
HoneySulphur I mean I didn’t say it was a great nerf lmao
Yeah! Gauss Cannon was an absolute beast!
Remote detonate is amazing as long as you know how to use it. Using it at mid range with flame cannon creates a ton of armor and it also is great for dealing massive damage and staggers to large groups of enemies.
The lock-on is just so much better at removing high threats from a fight instantly. Whiplash, cacodemon, revenant, and hell knights all die with one lock on. The other heavies such as mancubus, pain elemental, and arachnotron will die with one lock on and then a switch into the ballista.
Also with the lock on you can shoot and keep moving without having to look at where the bullet is going like you do with remote detonation.
@@Silveraxis18 Indeed, the detonation is not very useful, alternative methods is to fire at the ground or use a grenade. The lock on can down any many Heavy Enemies.
@@Silveraxis18 Hmm, Didn't know this. Thanks for the tip
@@Silveraxis18 Ok Lockon is insane for the whiplash I just tried it. I'll have to put a lot more time into using it because I totally skipped it in my first playthrough. Side note - But Using it on Cacpdemon daemon's is a total waste when its so much more efficient to use a sticky bomb or a grenade. Instead of spending 3 rockets you can spend one sticky grenade and get a free glory kill.
TeaPea102938 yes true about the cacodemon. It’s best to use either a grenade launcher or arbelest mod for the ballista. I was simply making a point at how useful the rocket lock on is.
I agree the Destroyer Blade does take a while to charge, but once you master it, it makes the Gauss cannon look like a pistol.
Best weapon mod in the game for damage.
Not hating on the arabalast mod, I do like it and it does a good amount of damage, but I like the Destroyer Blade better. Just saying.
It's too damn slow
@@denisn8336 use jump pads or monkey bars, charge it while in the air and delete everything. Also use with Ice Bomb
I just did a damage comparison. The Gauss cannon in siege mode is by far more powerful. The Ballista is still the most powerful in Eternal.
@@francocentrone197 Or just bunny hop while on the ground to regain all momentum and move around freely.
Remote detonation has a lot of uses. I love using it to fight the Marauder, because you can shoot it towards his side and explode it behind him to stagger him.
Great video man! I agree with most of your choices, though I would have to disagree about the energy shield mod on the chaingun, I found it very useful especially on nightmare difficulty when you need all the help you can get. Stopping all enemy damage is pretty insane to me, and I find it just as useful as mobile turret.
Thanks! Yeah, the shield does have it's uses. There is just so much going on in the game that changing weapon mods mid combat is something I almost always forget about. I can think of a couple of situations where the shield would have come in handy.
the remote detonate is amazing for dealing with the marauder both at range, and as a second hit on him after stunning him with the super shotgun, dont knock it till you try it
it is good, mixed with sticky bombs from your shotgun, he can go down pretty quickly.
It's good at range but when he's attacking its much better to use ballista, Super shotgun, and then ballista again. Takes him out in 2 attacks
@@Andy-wk3fx yeah but that relies on playing on his rhythm, the remote detonate bypasses the need to wait for his green eyes all together
@@RhysClark97 yeah but at close range using it you risk self inflicted damage and damaging his shield which spawns his dog and wastes ammo, much more efficient in the long run to play against his weaknesses
@@RhysClark97 and the wait for him to attack is very short compared to the time it takes to kill him with the remote detonator since it will take quite a few shots even if you do land all of them
I've found that Micro Missiles (fully modded) is a beast against the icon of sin
My personal experiance based modifications ranking.
*Note: This has been made before i watched the video*
*Combat Shotgun:*
Sticky Bombs - Always reliable in most situations, with many uses. A solid counter to Mancubi's, Arachnotrons, Revenants, Cacodemons and Marauders. Full ugrade makes it even more reliable.
Full auto - A high DPS fast fire ratio damage source. Mostly a situational mod, since it uses up a lot of shotgun ammo and slows you down. Super Shotgun is a better alternitive.
*Super Shotgun:*
Meathook - Nothing much to say about it. Useful in all sutuations, used for offense or running away. Even more useful with the fire upgrade. Great counter to Marauders.
*Heavy cannon:*
Percision Bolt - A very heavy counter towards Mancubi's, Arachnotrons and Revenants. Also able to one shot most folter enemies. A must-have for makyr drones.
Micro Missiles - Not as useful as the 2016 counterpart. Situational, pretty allright at taking out a large crowd of folters. Much better with the never-ending upgrade, but still less useful than the Percision Bolt
*Chaingun:*
Energy Shield - Always a reliable modification. Able to tank most damage dealt while also dealing damage, not restrictng movement. One of the weapons with both very good mods that require switching.
Mobile Turret - Very high DPS, destructive and unstopabble force. The shield takes a defensive approach when the turret goes all on offense. Best used against Hell Knights, Dreadknights and Barons of Hell.
*Plasma Rifle:*
Heat Blast - A mod that pretty much praises you for just using it. At stage 3, deals mass amount of damage while also disturbs most of enemies. With an upgrade, deals more damage after stage 3 shockwave. Great counter to Doom Hunters
Microwave Beam - Too situational. Takes a lot of time to blast a heavy demon while also restricts your movement. The one use however that i found for this mod is checking the health of your opponent - The bar below never goes down and gives you an understanding of how hurt a demon is. Can also be used to finish off some demons. Pretty good with the flame belch.
Also pretty good at taking out the Doom Hunter's shield.
*Ballista:*
Arbalest - The ballista itself is a heavy counter to flying enemies. With the mod, you're pretty much guaranteed to one shot a cacodemon, revenant in air and 2-3 shot a Pain Elemental. Can be used as a sticky bomb. Good counter to marauders.
Destroyer Blade - Great if used smart. The Destroyer Blade hinders your movement drastically, so it's best to use it under cover. Very high damage dealting AOE shot that one shots folter and some heavy enemies, staggering, also dealing mass amounts of damage. Tho in my opinion it's better to use Remote Detonation Rocket Launcher for taking out groups, since it doesnt restrict movement.
*Rocket launcher:*
Remote Detonate - Very useful against large groups of demons and for hindering heavy attacks. With an upgrade, the explosion is bigger making it even more effective. Be aware tho, that you may end up accidentally blasting a rocket in your own face.
Lock-On Burst - Great for taking out a single demon or two if the upgrade is aquired. One rocket barrage can take out or severly hinder most heavy enemies. Very useful against mobile targets like Whiplashes and Prowlers. Also one of the weapons that will have you switching mods quite frequently.
*BFG:*
Unmakyr - Yes i know its a seperate weapon, but considering that the button to switch it is the same as the mod switch button i will consider this a mod. Eitherway, it's very situational most of the time. Use this if you see no fun in blasting everything with the BFG or if you want to deal heavy damage to a heavy demon and still be able to glory kill it. Pretty useful with the flame belch combo against very heavy demons.
*Fodder. Folter means literally nothing buddy
Remember that full auto shotgun returns ammo.
I disagree on the microwave beam. Its power isn’t immediately obvious, but stunning them for a second to see their health is OP. Not to forget it stuns them post beam so you can put down a few shots.
@@AquaGaming1607 And mastered (Or maybe max out idk) it can stun multiple demons if they are close enough to the targeted demon, which is so broken if you can stun multiple for few seconds it makes it like infinite freeze nade with lower range for easier kill when switching to other weapon. Microwave beam is for me best mod for plasma rifle, because I always forget I even have heat blast selected and most waste its charge. Even when I use heat blast when I actually want, I feel it doesn't do anything. Though it is good to take out weak points, even when you don't have ammo, or when nades are on cooldown and you get crowded (which for me is very rarely).
Tbh i dont understand the balista...
The plasma rifle beam upgrade is good since it can hold enemies in place so they stop moving and cause them to explode dealing damage to nearby demons
Bro remote detonate is like top 3 mods in the game! especially with the mastery upgrade. Plus the chaingun shield is a must on the higher difficulty settings. being invincible from all sides for any amount of time let alone 6 seconds WHILE SHOOTING, JUMPING & DASHING is priceless.
Thanks I was looking for something like this.
Glad to be able to help
Also blasphemy!!! Micro missiles?!?? Are INSANE when you unlock the endless volley. They do insane DPS on heavier targets as you can unload 75 mini missiles into a target in seconds.
It’s no joke with a quad damage and a heavy demon in your face.
Dude, every weapon is a great with quad damage, and micro missiles still have lower DPS than the Chaingun.
monoespacial
You don’t always have specific ammo.
Relying on one type just limits game play and ruins runs on the harder settings.
DarkbyDesign Micro missiles and chain gun use the same ammo
Byabit
Yeah - I was using the shield and chain gun on the flying boss that lights up the floor.
The shield soaks up the annoying projectiles till you can strip her shields and shotgun / blood punch her.
Thanks for the guide, very well made! Here are some other mod uses I've found:
> Bottomless Micro missiles are awesome against the last 2 bosses in the game. Reason being is you can reliably do a lot of damage while moving at top speed.
> Full auto shotgun can be used to falter knights early in the game until you get the chaingun.
> The chaingun shield is great at protecting you from fodder and ranged attacks while you kill a single pursuit enemy (knights, whiplash, or an already damaged baron). Once it's done, you have to move though since other enemies will have caught up.
> The microwave beam and fully upgraded precision scope can both cause damage to a group of enemies by targeting a fodder enemy in the middle of that group. That being said, I only use the plasma rifle for shield guys, so the mods on it aren't important to me.
> For some reason, I like remote det better than lock on burst... I don't have a good reason, so it might be personal preference.
Yeah I agree for the Rocket Launcher. The remote detonate gets better especially when the Proximity upgrade is put in place require you to focus less and the Mastery is good as well. And honestly the mastery for the Lock-On is probably the most annoying mod in the game just because it at first you upgrade the lock on to go faster then you master the mods to get two lock-on just for it to take the original amount of time. Makes no sense and I hate that once you lock on if the demon turns a corner the rockets aren’t smart enough to follow. They just go into the wall. And if you lock on half the time a another demon will just jump in front of them 😂
@@doom8171 To be fair the lock on mastery is very easy to avoid cuz there's no reason to use lock on to burst a Prowler.
Noël Yeah Ik. It’s just dumb the mastery is are worse
Destroyer blade is one of the best mods. You can just disintegrate everything and it doesn't slow you down if you use bars, jumppads or even a simple double jump. And you don't have to charge it fully every time. You can charge it to 1 or 2 stage to destroy prowler, carcass or someone else. You could also use a cryogrenade and 3 stage of destroyer blade to instantly kill a group of heavy demons. You can even use blade+2 times lock on rockets+meathhook+supershotgun+bloodpunch to kill tyrant
Man he really down played the chain gun shield
Having played only a little, I picked the same mods at first except for the rocket launcher. I feel like this mod deserves more love as it is a great way to deal AoE damage and hit fast demons that are not in clear sight. It can also hit the back of pinkies facing you if you use it right which is something not many weapons can do. I remember a fight in DOOM 2016 in particular in UN where I found this mod to be a life saver (in Lazarus Labs a room filled with boxes and imps near the end). I would admit though that with weak spots and such it's probably not as good anymore and lock on seems to be a little better than in 2016.
Every mod has it's utility for sure (except perhaps for the micro missiles), but my point was to provide the best "first mod for each weapon", and in that case I think it is undoubtedly better to pick the lock on mod first. I'll give the mod another try though!
Both Lock-on and Remote are interesting in Doom Eternal, however the Lock-on is more interesting at first because it allows you to insta kill whiplash, hellknight & dreadnight
@@monoespacial You said for the remote that you had to keep the sight to use it properly be actually with the sound signal it's not so necessary
The shield mod for the chaingun is actually great against any melee demon (pinkies/nightmares): if you see one charging you you can just pull out chaingun, activate the shield and dash into the guy, dashing 2-3 times ensures a stagger on a pinky.
It works against barons of hell as well, on nightmare it takes about 15 dashes to kill....yeah not the most practical way to kill them but it's kinda fun
Great video, but I do like the microwave beam Plasma gun mod as it's great for killing a line of enemies as it will penetrate through their bodies. It's also nice because, on the kill, its shock wave can take out nearby demons.
I prefer heat wave. It's very useful against stronger enemies like Baron's. Why? Because not only does it do a good amount of damage but it falters them allowing you to get in more damage, plus heat wave can take out tons of normal enemies in one shot. It's one of my favorites.
I found the destroyer blade really useful the third time I played through
Disagree, with the mastery, the destroyer blade is really strong, even then, a full charged blade basically wipes out an entire arena if aimed right, and basically takes half health off some of the most powerful demons in the game.
The way it basically just chops all demons in half including the arachnatron and the fatbois is killer. The mastery allows you to fire a more focused blade at any point too, so if you just wanna kill the arachnatron, you only have to charge for a few seconds.
I loved this video bro. Quick, easy, reliable info-no BS.
Thanks. It's precisely what I'm trying to accomplish with every video.
Full auto is good once you get the salvo extender on it because then demons drop lots of shells so you can use it to kill fodder and get back the ammo you used
Micro-missiles are great if you need to deal good damage to a target but don't have time to properly aim at him
Remote-det is good in those big open arenas because you will be able to see and time your rocket to kill/stagger tons of fodder at once
Destroyer blade is also good for killing tons of fodder in a big open arena
Microwave beam is good when one heavy comes at you, or to check a heavy's health mid battle
The mods you mentioned probably are the best, but the other mods do have uses
Precision bolt is perfect in world spear master level against the drones, but I absolutely love the micro missiles, feels more action packed than the chaingun.
A super shotgun with flaming hook is so helpful in combat areas and boss fights too. Give me that extra armor any time. You don't even have to mod ballista. It's a good weapon on its own to deal a quick damage to larger enemies.
If you shoot a rocket with proximity flare over the ground, it will show where the tentacle things are.
But it's always pretty clear when you're in an area where there's holes on the floor that the tentacles can pop up. Seems like a waste of a rocket tbh.
@@travistotle Yeah I agree but it is still possible for some reason.
That's a neat little tip thank you! I love finding new ways to blow those bastards up.
Take it from someone who has beaten Ultra Nightmare, you cannot go full offense or full defense, so the “best defense is a great offense” statement is wrong. Even on UN the ChainGun energy shield saves you from a whole Icon of Sin punch.
Also the Doom Eternal DLC in the microwave mod becomes essential for dealing with one of the other ambient demons or particularly the spirit is the spirit can only be damaged with that mod
Tip to new players: get the praetor suit upgrade that lets you see all the secrets on the map. Make sure you get all of them so that you find extra modbots, batteries and sentinel crystals. Also do the challenges for batteries so you can unlock shit in the fortress.
Because, what's better than the best mods?
How about *all the mods*
I started playing doom recently and after playing the game a considerable amount. And I agree with most of this except the destroyer blade. FYI if you know where enemy’s spawn you can one shot almost every heavy enemy. VERY USEFUL, don’t sleep on this!
The micro missiles are extremely overpowered with the mastery. Although it chews through your ammo, if you use your chainsaw effectively you will decimate your enemies. Its basically a more effective version of stock(basic) chaingun.
Imo, chaingun has the best mods. Both are pretty useful in their own right. One is defense, the other is straight up offense. Like you said "allows you to kill in 6 seconds" and "allows you to think for 6 seconds".
Apparently the point of the microwave beam on the plasma rifle is not to deal damage, but to instantly stun enemies and switch weapons
i think the microwave beam is the best mod for plasme rifle because it can help you take down bigger demons and it can also stun more demons if the beam goes through other demons, but it desnt work on bosses and marauder
full auto is so good with the mastery, micro missels can falter and deal some good damage to heavies, microwave beam is good to stun and to see how much health does an enemy has and if you play the ancient gods its the way to kill a spirit, remote detonation can falter every demon with the mastery and its pretty strong too, ballista i guess they are both good destroyer blade is underrated, the shield is so good you can bully double dash a pinky and it will stagger, it can take out a tyrant quickly and it's a quick getaway for sticky situations!
The way to do it is use shield to deal damage and gather enemies and then send the shield out to stun all the enemies that closed in on you, allowing you enough time to swap to destroyer blade, fire an ice bomb and unleash the destroyer blade on all the demons encased in ice.
Great vid! I have to agree about the sticky bombs. As soon as I saw that one, I immediately unlocked it. It's been my main weapon the majority of the game. I only use the auto to get through game challenges.
I have to disagree about the energy shield. I actually think it's a great mod, along with the mobile turret. It's bailed me out a number of times.
Ultra nightmare mode I wouldn’t even contemplate doing the boss without energy shield on the chain gun.
*That flying skank (who lights up the floor) is a pain in the arse.*
Lock on rockets take to long and often it’s better to wait for her to finish the floor attack and start throwing the blades of light. The energy shields on the chain gun soak those up while you hammer her life bar.
You can strip her life and shotgun her before the energy shields run out usually.
Micro missiles are okay but you should really only use the Assault Rifle for the Precision bolt and use the plasma rifle as your backup until you get the Arbalest and the Chaingun and reverse the rolls. Both shotgun mods are great too although Grenades have more use early on and against Cacao Demons. Both mods of the Plasma Rifle are useful but the Heat Blast is definitely better. I think you kind of underplayed lock on missiles because it's very good if you get the right upgrades, and remote burst is good for doing combos with the Arbalest at a distance where the Meathook wouldn't be useful.
Gotta disagee on the microwave beem. The best way to use it is to stun mobile enemies (not waiting for it to finish them off which takes too long) and then finish them off with either a quick balista strike or rocket volley. It's essential for whiplashes and prowlers, and also very useful against knights and barons.
the microwave beam is decent is you pick a target at the back of a group as you can actually stop lots of stacked up demons in their tracks. Works well against heavy demons just to give a moment to breathe
In my experience, the MOBILE TURRET mode of the CHAINGUN does NOT even use more AMMO per/second than the base Chaingun +/- Shield mod; on the contrary, it actually CONSUMES LESS: roughly 10 rounds per second, in my estimation. The only difference, as far as I can tell, is that there is a ramp up time of maybe 0.5 seconds before the base Chaingun +/- Shield mod reaches its maximum firing rate of something in the realm of 12 - 15 rounds per second.
Also, watch the 2 videos of each mod killing the Mancubus, i think, and you will see there there is effectively no practical difference in the damage output of the turret mode. I counted in the 1-one-thousand, 2-one-thousand, 3-one-thousand style, and the turret mode preview/tutorial video killed the Mancubus is ~4 seconds... the base Chaingun +/- the Shield mod killed a Mancubus in ALMOST the same time -- roughly ~4.5 seconds.
Now you must keep in mind that in the tutorial videos, they are not precisely duplicating the aiming of the other, so it's ENTIRELY POSSIBLE that the hardly noteworthy ~0.5 second increase on length of kill w/ the base Chaingun +/- Shield mod was due to either (a) less efficient use of weak point hitboxes, or (b) within an acceptable margin of error.
/-//--///> I just had a thought. My estimated rate of fire for the base Chaingun being roughly 50% higher than the MOBILE TURRET mod activated, and the MOBILE TURRET's weapon model has 12 barrels, rather than the 8 barrels that comes on the base version. I'm thinking, since they kill things in roughly the same time, regardless, that the MOBILE TURRET ROUNDS could be actually doing 50% MORE DAMAGE, yet will consume 33% less rounds per a given timeframe than the base Chaingun [ + / - ] Shield mod. This would simply mean that the MOBILE TURRET mode is more AMMO EFFICIENT, allowing you to fire it for longer. If you don't believe that the increase in damage (if it turns out to be ~50% on TURRET mod) would perfectly negate it's REDUCED RATE OF FIRE (~33% reduction on RATE OF FIRE w/ TURRET mod.. again, ~10 rounds p/sec vs ~15 rounds p/sec at base Chaingun's RAMPED UP RATE OF FIRE (~0.25 to ~0.5 sec ramp up time)).
/-//--///---////> Put yourself in the dev's shoes. How else would you handle upgrading a base Chaingun to a TURRET mode with 50% more physical barrels on the weapon model? You can't increase the rate of fire AND each round's damage, as it would scale multiplicatively! Furthermore, just increasing rate of fire would increase DPS, but I bet money that a 33-50% increase in DPS resulting from an increased RATE OF FIRE would go beyond the designer's generally anticipated maximum DPS threshold, which has to be a universally relevant & applicable soft cap throughout the game's development that can be relied upon as a cornerstone, ruler, or a kind of universal constant.
/-//--///---////> In that regard, the speed of light has many similarities, in that it has many fundamental limitations & implications about how the universe was created or came to exist, and what reasons there might be [if any] for its current state of existence, which is comprised of notable things, such as: universal equations, laws, & transcendental numbers, e.g.: Phi &, Pi, that the devs & designers can keep in the forefront of their mind as their game continues to develop.
/-//--///---////> Two Core Equations that the devs must be acutely aware of the answers to, as well as how the general gameplay dynamic changes when the ratio representing the comparative differential between the results of the equations on either side of the colon( : ). Put simply: the further away from whatever ratio values the devs & designers have deemed to be generally ideal, the bigger the possible range of values, the wider the spectrum of possible outcomes will be to occur inside your game's: engine, environment, AI, animations, damage/defense/movement values from the ratio that relates both equations' results both well-tuned and imbalanced between:
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Equation [1]: [ Demons_Max_HP / Players_Anticipated_Max_DPS ] + Average_Target_Acquisition_Time = Anticipated_Demons Time_to_Die
Equation [2]: [ Demons_Movement_Speed * Average_Spawn_Distance_From_Player ] + Attack_Animation_Duration = Anticipated_Minimum_Pose_Risk_Time.
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/-//--///---////> Both need to be precisely tuned, as if they are not in balance w/ one another, the more common it will possible for players to kill your demons before they're actually able to pose any risk whatsoever with a even a single outlier in the realm of high end weapon DPS, and this is obviously not interesting, engaging, challenging, OR fun.
/-//--///---////> If the TURRET mod simply increased RATE OF FIRE, and left damage unchanged, it would increase the weapon's DPS, but it would also reduce the length of time you could continuously less loose firing uninterrupted (ESPECIALLY before you get the TURRET mod mastery which removes the overheat mechanic), and this would undoubtedly be comparatively lamer, gameplay FEEL-wise.
/-//--///> I bet this is the exact conundrum that they found themselves in, and some 5head came along and thought to do what should've ran precisely contrary to what the difference in weapon model should've implied - more rounds per second. This would also do a lot to explain why they ADDED an overheat mechanic on the TURRET mode, as well: the cost of gaining the effect of your rounds doing 50% more damage (the actual practical difference here, since DPS stays the same, is that you do the same dmg per second with less ammo usage per second, at least up until you overheat the activated TURRET mod, until you earn/unlock the TURRET's weapon mastery that completely removes the overheat mechanic).
Am i missing something?? lmao.. and unmodded or shield modded has no potential to overheat itself ever, whereas when using the turret mod you need to get the final weapon mastery before you regain that otherwise inherent trait of the Chaingun. Turret is one probably the shittiest weapon mod in the game, honestly -- especially when you factor in that it's direct competitor -- the shield mod for Chaingun -- is probable to be objectively the best mod in game, if not the flaming meat hook.
Thank you. It is nice to know that someone else shares my opinions.
“The best defence is a good offence”
I take this to another level by making fast quick combos to the point that the average bobs can’t react in time and die, provided I could experiment all the game mechanics you got yourself a tactician and launching quick hits with a short stun is the best, you keep your enemies at bay and chaingun is sorta a good example of quick combo, the mobile turret is too op to be true
I've never heard the way I play suggested. I just switch to the "best" (in my opinion) weapon for dealing with a certain enemy...
Cacodemon: Arbalest or Sticky Bomb
Mancubus: Heavy Cannon and Rocket launcher
Arachnotron: Sticky Bomb and Super Shotgun
DOOM Hunter: Laser Rifle, Full Auto and Lock On
Hell Knight: Turret
Dread Knight: Turret
Baron: Turret
Pinkies: Blood Punch
Tyrant: Crucible
Archvile: Crucible
Carcass: Laser Rifle and Super Shotgun
Whiplash: Ice Bomb and Rocket Launcher
Prowler: Lock On
Maurauder: Super Shotgun and Balista
Pain Elemental: Lock On
The microwave beam can be really good for one on one fights with tougher enemies if you have enough ammo
Nah, mods aren't better or worse - they are more or less useful for one's current playstyle/level of play.
Full-Auto is great (with unlocked Mastery) for experienced players as a finisher.
Micro Missiles are great for beginners for early weapon combos, while Precision Bolt is used for some advanced quick-switch techniques.
Microwave Beam stuns enemies for a short time and pretty much shows you their HP.
Remote Detonation is great for getting armor (with Flame Belch), staggering enemies, killing Pinkies and Marauders.
Plasma rifle's heat blast is starting to be one of my favorites. It is great against stronger enemies like hell knights and everyform of them, barons, doom hunters, whiplashes etc. Because not only does it deal good damage, it falters demons giving you even more chances to deal damage. Chaingun shield is also another one of my favorites due to dash shielding and faltering demons, handcannon missles are also another good one cause once you upgrade them more and more they are powerful. Remote detonated rockets are also great against groups of normal enemies. Mixing all these up depending on the situation is really the key at beating higher difficulties.
Meathook, air control, slow motion while using alt. Best combo in the game. Gets you out of a bad situation, while dropping tons of armor.
the microwave beam can be used midair to get quick intel on how much health larger demons have and can halter them for a short amount of time
Hyperauto shotgun is great, if you spool up in mid air. It's an early game Gatling, with a Mastery that refills ammo, just great.
Mobile turret is best mod during secret fights as you can dish out a ton of damage is a short window. Shield is a great mod against big enemies like the pain elemental and barons of hell as the stream of bullets continually falters them
The microwave beam is really just used to make killing doom hunters more easily.
If you use the ice bomb with the ballista destroyer blade it can be devastating to groups of enemies. Awesome tips thank you so lunch 🙏
For an experienced player, remote burst is one of the best if not the best mod in the game. It does large amounts of damage if you time it right and can splash to kill large groups of heavy monsters in a couple of hits. It’s even better for demolition of smaller fodder groups
I find that it needs to be fully upgraded to be any good, while lock on burst is good out of the gate, so if you have to pick one to get first, I would much rather go for lock-on.
I use the microwave beam to stay unlock enemies. Use the microwave beam quickly like a quick stun, then switch to another weapon quick stun switch to another weapon and then get all my shotgun ammo back with the full auto mod fully upgraded.
I like the microwave also it eliminates enemy’s that are fast and hard to deal with
Sticky Bombs, Arbalest, and Mobile Turret are by far the best mods in the game. Sticky bombs is probably the most versatile mod in the game. Mobile Turret turns demons into Swiss cheese and the Arbalest is a one shot monster. And in terms of mastery I think they have the best as well. You get five shots instead of three before reloading for the Stickies which if you use it a lot you’ll know it’s a good upgrade. Unlimited Cooling for the turret is a no brainer and the Instant Salvo mastery for the Arbalest is probably the most rewarding for people who hit their shots with the Ballista.
I am still a little frustrated with the sticky bombs : in 2016 the projectile exploded INSTANTLY now there is a 1s delay and while it seems insifnificant, since the game is considerably faster that second makes a sensible difference and not for the better, even if you can now fire several projectiles in a row.
Scroubignon Yeah understandable once you understands it doesn’t explode instantly and how many it takes to kill each demon I kinda treat it like shoot and forget. I shoot and turn away knowing when they are dead so I can focus on someone else
@@doom8171 Well that's the thing they are not dead and can still block you/hit you but I see what you mean.
Scroubignon Yeah. I understand the frustration and not blowing up instant but I think that’s the balance for them. They are one of the best for weak points, they kill almost all low enemies in one shot, and the upgrades for them are useful so the balancing for it is most likely that.
@@MisterL777 just stick it onto the demon, stop shooting the floor
Full auto is GREAT when you master it. It turns tentacle rooms into annoying factories and smaller dudes into ammo bricks! One shot gets back 2/3 rounds! It’s great to stock up on super sg ammo or shotgun rounds.
Never had a problem dealing with tentacles. I use the SS, regular combat shotgun or plasma gun for them and never ran out of ammo due to them. The full auto mod is very limited in my opinion and the "getting back ammo" isn't super useful since getting ammo isn't hard.
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If you run dry on the harder difficulties it’s easy to use 2 /3 shells to turn it back into 20 using the mastery mod.
Tentacles and also a room full of zombies is a great back up especially if you abused the chainsaw in previous fights.
Then you have ammo to abuse the meat hook and ss again!
The destroyer blade is decent with the mastery.
when I finished the game I had all the mods and upgrades without replaying any level lol. I like looking for the secrets
I actually found the Destroyer blade very useful. You just need to have high armor and health for it to work well when using it. It'll wipe out nearly everything in your path. It's an awesome weapon. I want one of them.
The lock on rocket launcher is a beast for me
I'm a God with the Destroyer Blade
Fight me
The micro missiles are best for heavy cannon in my opinion. In micro missiles you Can use a upgrade for the modification by speeding it up 75%. Also super shotgun mastery is worth is and easy. But the microwave beam is best for plasma rifle in my opinion. You should use flame belch then use the microwave beam when they are almost dead. Then it drops all the armor. And ballista the destroyer blade is worth the 4 second wait because for the damage. (Damage matters in hardcore games, idc about the wait.) But with that aside the rest of your opinion is what I agree with.
lol nope
Pretty epic guide, but the destroyer blade helped me a lot on ultra nightmare for some reason. So, I'm keeping it :P
Heres a fact, the micromissiles, if you have the ammo, can be EXTREMELY useful agauns the arachnotron.
I actually think the micro missiles are a good option as I prefer to use to the sticky bombs to take out weak points as I don't have the time slow rune and as I haven't unlocked the chain gun yet (I got the game for Christmas) they are the best option for dealing with hell knights when early in the game as from what from what I've played two to three successful volleys of the missiles can stagger a hell knight
I don’t like it when people say one mod is better than the other, sure you can have a preference, I do, but saying that one is better is kinda unfair. I believe both mods to every weapon have their own advantages, in fact, there is not a single bad weapon mod in this game it just comes down to which one you use and how you use it
"Microwave beam is too situational"
Once you get other weapons the heat blast becomes useless. Why should I charge the heat blast if I can do a ballista ssg combo for example? In the later game the beam becomes much more useful at stunning fast pursuing enemies such as pinkies, hell nights, dread nights, hell barons, and it even destroys the doom hunter's shield faster, which makes an amazing opening for a lock on combo. The beam is an amazing mod I would pick it over heat blast even in early game because it is so versatile.
Not really, the heat blast is still a better choice for a quick hard falter in a quickswitch combo considering you can passively charge it while getting glory kills. It's also the only thing that can stop an armored baron while its armor is still on
And remote detonate could stun enemies to get a quick hidden with another gun.
Remote detonation is actually really good, it can hit marauders and pinkies
The only reason to go with the microwave beam is, when equipped, enemies killed by regular plasma shots explode a little.
Microwave beam can be awesome against whiplashes and dread knights since those motherfuckers like to be very evasive.
The fact this guy went from 800+ subs to 9k+ subs in less then a year is amazing. But he truly deserves it
Thanks dude, that's very kind. These types of comments help me pull through tough times.
Personally I really like the energy shield on chaingun (though mobile turret is still better in my opinion) getting any sort of breathing room in eternal is hard to come by, and the power of 6 seconds of invulnerability with a minigun should not be underestimated.
If they kept the remote detonation stuff from 2016 I'd be happy, but in eternal... I want to love it as much as I used to but the damage is too low to be worth the effort.
Full auto and micro missiles fall into the "worse chaingun" category
Micro missiles shred the HP of Super Heavies and also great for killing the final boss
Micromissles are the highest DPS weapon in the game btw
Im gonna agree with everything here except the arbelest, Destroyer blade can actually 1-shot the Marauder at the beginning of Taras Nabad.
The remote detonator is good if you know how to use it but for people on their first play through they would want lock on burst
I got the mobile turret upgrade first cause of it's pure destruction in DOOM 2016, but i feel like it's been nerfed.
Everytime I use it my Health gets pretty low and shortly after I die.
I personaly think it's useless and never used it at all.
But the shield was a dream and was except for the Super-shotgun the only thing I used in the entire game.
Use it to target specific enemies that are staggered by it (th-cam.com/video/QXSmhJJuC-A/w-d-xo.html). It melts them down.
I prefer the remote detonation than the lock on because you can do a lot of damage to them even when you're not paying attention to the rockets and the lock on to me is a waste of ammo
So basically you are saying that the energy shield is the better one?
Ice bomb then destroyer blade helps
Sorry but the Shield on the Chaingun stops Icon of Sin punches so it’s better.
6:30 the destroyer blade with mastery is way better than the arbalest.
The arbalest is still a good mod tho
Great video and analysis. Thanks!!
Microwave beam is a cool idea and it's a laser beam. I just wish it was better
Yes, it's a really cool idea but it takes way too long, even for units like carcass. I had a carcass ready for a glory kill and the microwave beam started with like 20% still missing
Its really good for whiplashes and dread knights especially if you know that any damage you do to them will increase the microwave charge rate. Damage them from a distance and when they get close, microwave them which will stun them for as long as you microwave them + another second or two so you can easily lock them down.
I feel like the only way to make the microwave beam better is to not have it basically lock you in place and not have the beam break if you lose line of sight. Also it would be really good if the beam sort of branched out to any demons that come close to it so you can damage more at once.
It does allow you to string-stun multiple enemies if you get them lined up correctly.
Microwave beam in regular doom eternal: I’m useless
Microwave beam in ancient gods: I’m very essential and you won’t get anywhere without me, it takes a lot of ammo but at least I can destroy the most annoying enemy in the game
I chose the Destroyer Blade for the Ballista just bc it's cool
Destroyer blade is good for starting secret encounters
In my normal play-through the shield wasn't very useful. On Nightmare 6 seconds of breathing time is a godsend.
Honestly the charge time with the destroyer blade isn't the issue. Siege mode on 2016's Gauss cannon took about the same amount of time and was the most busted thing in the game. The difference is the destroyer blade doesn't have any upgrades that increase your move speed. Getting rooted to the spot is *very bad* in a game that's all about mobillity.
Even the final upgrade for it is pretty meh. It only does enough damage to be worth charging when it's fully charged. Otherwise you're just paying extra to kill trash mobs. Use the plasma gun for that.
It's a crying shame too because watching a fully charged destroyer blade sail across a battlefield and slice like 20 demons in half is *so satisfying*.
remote detonation is 👌👌👌
Anybody else watching this but they don’t have doom eternal but when they hope they do they will use these mods?
I would say it depends more on the personal playstyle :D
basically, just pick the mod on the top (except for rocket launcher)
The Micro missiles mod is worth mastering because it destroys the second to last boss
Haven't gotten there, yet. I'll keep that in mind. I just unlocked the mastery for that one, too.
What about the fully upgraded destroyer blade.
Lol they introduced a new enemy type in the DLC just to justify the use of the Microwave beam 😃
I think the same when I choose to upgrade the chain gun 😂