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Great video. I thought the 57 Speedmaster reissue was my favorite. This takes they design to the highest level. Love all the details. The 57 is already easy out of my range. This be one? Dreams were grounded before they even were launched once the price was made known. Will they ever make the broad arrow Speedmaster at a more approachable and obtainable option without the limited edition that seems to always go with them? Idk?.. or, do you think such designs should only be reserved for limited production with the ultra high price tags to preserve it's uniqueness and collectibiliy to keep it special?
@@khronokraze And they even improved the bracelets on this model... Taper AND a better milled out clasp (it makes me jealous in a way BUT there's something quite nice about the heftier bracelet on the 57's) - I really think that we'll be seeing these in steel soon. It's too good of an opportunity for them to pass on. Plus, a 3861 movement in here would be killer... It would be a pity if they keep these original designs solely as Limited Editions... but that could also be an option (as you say, keeping them special) Something tells me this year we'll see something else added to the lineup 😉
@@ID-Guy nice. Who knows.. there rest is no limit to how many subtle variations they can produce of essentially the same model. I sincerely hope whatever the case, it is made of "obtainium"... A more financially palatable option for the masses.
I've been buying Rolex, AP, and PP for the past 20 years... my last Omega was a Seamaster 25+ years ago... why? Because nothing they made was worth even it's MSRP price at 25% off... but this watch is a game changer... As a Porsche 911 guy, I can relate to your analogy... as such, I bought this watch our in the original Stainless Steel after a 2 year wait.. It's a work of horological art.
This omega release is an absolute stunner! The broad arrow hand is a logical choice and opportunity that Omega shouldn’t squander away. Amazing camera shots! Could you imagine a black pvd version of this??? Omega really has endless possibilities with this release. Thank you for such an enticing review! I always look forward to your next video.
Love it. Imho the Speedmaster is already the ultimate chronograph, & this has elevated it even higher. Just awesome - actually like the case back myself, but would prefer a gently domed crystal. Excellent video, thank you 👍🏻👍🏻
This is an absolutely stunning watch and dare I say my favorite Speedy of all time! The price is crazy and completely out of reach for me but this is one to add to the "holy grail" list but one that is realistic many years down the line so long as the watch doesn't skyrocket in value. If I am doing well in life, let's say in 10-20 years, then I think I'd be taking a very hard look at this watch.
I'd happily add the 57 Speedie to the collection (even with my Seamaster) It's one of those "slow release" models that'll have its hooks in you over time 😉 These broad arrows are so special... Something tells me people are going to chasing them in years to come 🥃
Given the chance I'd happily add a Trilogy Speedmaster to the collection. It's been one of those "slow release" pieces for me, but the love for Broad Arrows trumps everything else. Such a great piece and I hope you're wearing yours with pride, brother 🥃
This is a beautiful watch, and a chronograph dial that you can actually read is a plus. I couldn't agree with you more that the Omega broad arrow hands should be their snowflake or Mercedes emblem. Ditto on the sapphire and the etched case back.
The Crampus Speedy is $81,000. Sorry even with a 321 (covered with a logo ugh) there are so many better options out there for that money, high horology options. I just don't get it. PS loved the eye roll, IDGuy definitely gets it haha One other note, that broad hour I dont know it blocks the sub dials. I like the Ed White, he didn't even step foot on the moon and got the best Speedy out of it, cheers to that - calling it in.
Great point about the hour hand Nef. Funnily enough, I'll be doing a hands-on review of a watch next week that is a broad arrow that deliberately doesn't cover its sub-dials. Ed was a lucky guy with that gem of a watch 😉 Hope you've been keeping well and enjoyed your break over the holidays!
Weird that brands keep doing this, right? I guess its cheaper to paint the crystal than engrave the surrounding areas of the caseback but still! You've just reminded me how GS does the same with their pieces 😆
Thanks for another great review. The seahorse eye gets me too and then I remember that this is where art intersects with craft, technique, and history. Perhaps this is instructive too and reminds some of us there can be a thin line between enough and too much.
Im so glad to see you jumping on this review. The onyx multi tiered dial plus the enameled bezel is surely going to be stunning in person. The laser engraving is a crime against humanity. And for 80k 38.5?! No sir, for that kinda cash im wanting a 41 (and a belt sander for the horsey) great watch tho
First of all, great review. Secondly, I love the watch. Lastly, one gripe besides the price for me are the broad arrow hand, they look fabulous in pictures, however, across the Omega lineup, when you see them in person and having multiple broad arrow hand models, I find they fall pretty flat in that they look kind of two dimensional IMO. Cheers
Nice POV around the Broad Arrows. I think Omega needs a leg-up with them and their lineup (simple things like brushing and polishing can liven them up a lot) 😉 Thank you for the great comment and for taking the time to watch the clip! 🥃
Yes. Yes. Yes. The broad arrow hour hand should be the signature of the brand. The Planet Ocean reversal drives me batty. Loved the eye roll....Is there a weekend show this weekend?
It just makes sense that the Broad Arrow becomes a statement for the brand, right? Maybe this is an example that they're looking in that direction? I hope you had an excellent break Karl! On the Livestream front I'm thinking of postponing them until February (really enjoying getting these videos together over the weeks while editing others - surprisingly have a few deadlines to meet this month) 😆
I love this watch, the three layer dial from Onyx, the case made from a blend of expensive super shiny stuff housing that 321 movement, it's easily the best speedy release. There is a lot of work that has gone into this piece and hence the price. The number made I'm sure will be low that would also add to the price. The more you make the cheaper most items would become. For those fortunate enough to afford and procure this watch, enjoy a fantastic watch and wear it. As for the broad arrow hands? Omega are already inconsistent with the Aqua Terra models have the broad arrow on the minute hand, The Planet Ocean on both hands and the Seamaster 300 on the hour hand only. Other ranges without the broad arrow and oddly for me I'm OK with this. I have to agree with your other gripes though about the sapphire crystals.
Nicely said as always Anthony. These will be special models, no doubt. And over the last few months I've really been looking at the CK2915 differently (as a piece I'd happily add to the collection with my Seamaster) They're just too much fun... Who knows what they'll be up to this year? It's also the 65th Anni for the Seamaster and Railmaster (and Ranchero) 😉 We might be in for a few surprises!
Stunningly beautiful watch. I agree with your critique of the hippocampus on the crystal. They could have etched it into the caseback like the do the Omega globe. As to the sapphire it could have been put in the middle of the Omega letter on the 321 movement.
A very beautiful watch. Like the Mona Lisa, something the majority of us will only see in photos. Omega has been carried forward by the, “little “ watch buyers. I would have thought they would reward those people with a watch. Not just the few.
We can never tell, maybe they'll be bringing these out in steel to compete with the Ed Whites? Odds are the EW's will be more popular SO these might get into our hands easier? It's also the 65th Seamaster & Railmaster anniversary this year 🔥
65th anniversary is for the trilogy. Next year is the 75th anniversary of the Seamaster launch in 1948. I am expecting a winner (for the masses please, Omega).
It's absolutely bewildering to me why Omega keeps shooting itself in the foot by overthinking and overdoing things, in this case by laser etching the entire case back. I'm rooting for Omega to succeed in the coming decades but they really can't afford to keep making dumb decisions like this, especially considering how many potential lifetime customers are currently there for the taking, given the arrogance Rolex continues to show to anyone who is looking to buy their first watch.
Absolutely Jason. Flamboyance for flamboyance sake... only the enthusiast will be keen to own one of these pieces and I don't think anyone out there wants a movement covered by fluff... doing this to a 321 is boarderline criminal 😆 Like you, of all the brands out there I want Omega to continue succeeding. Someone out there needs to keep telling them that "less is more" 🥃
@@ID-Guy I think omega needs these three things a CEO that understands that they don’t want to be Rolex, they just want to be Omega, second a financtial head that understands that the money isn’t on competing with everyone, but in competing with Rolex and Tudor in their field without the pomp just your history and heritage, and making them 2nd guess how and when to release a product aka for every black bay chrono you’ll have either a moonwatch profesional at its original price aka under 4k and above 4-5k (sapphire sandwich) and so on and so forth, and last but not least a designer that, as you say understands the less is more approach, and the let’s re interpret a classic approach like we saw in the chronoscope. Omega are close to greatness, they just need to stop chasing the rosy crown and focus on the endgame. Hell imagine a speedy astronaut an auto broad arrow speedy that tracks 24 hours, a step forwards while looking back
A lovely thing, for sure. Does it indicate future expansion of the 321 range? A steel CK321? A cool prospect. That said, the 321 is a nice movement, but 'great'? Expensive to service and sits outside the brand's core anti-magnetic, co-axial strategy. Conflicted. Whatever, $80k is bizarre - Lange/Patek money. But Omega have previous - the Canopus Speedy Pro is weirdly expensive too.
A very thoughtful and interesting review, thanks, and I find myself in agreement with all your observations. The etched Hippocampus on the back crystal ruins the whole thing, and having to find a clever way to add a spurious sapphire to the watch is, frankly, something you would expect on an 80s R***x!!! Yes, it’s that bad, and I suspect that OMEGA will eventually offer a free plain crystal replacement as part of the first service and a delete option for the Hippo on ordering the watch new. Finally, I found that incessant and loud clicking noise really distracting. I know it’s your ID audio logo, but just a few seconds either end of the video would be more than sufficient, thanks.
It's not, as far as I know the bezel diameter on these are 38.5mm and the current moonwatch sits at 41. something something millimetres. These old-school models are quite a lot smaller in diameter 🥃
@@ID-Guy ha ha yes!! I know what you mean. But.... I tried on the green. I have not tried the Explorer... the green is special, striking and different.. and I don't like the safety clasp if I'm honest.. anyway you know I'll be happy with whichever one I get the call about
@@ID-Guy also considering the black 36mm... you know I've just realised that I prefer the less cluttered dial. Less words, one white gold crown. I love the double batons at 3 6 9... the rounded bezel.. I'm just really convinced that it's the classiest rolex... so the green (which looks black in certain light), or black? What would you choose?... and nice to know that when I'm ready to buy, I should be able to find a black one easily...green not so easily but I'm on the list anyway
@@Valera_Scotland The safety clasps can be a bit of a nuisance. I poked a big hole in them experiencing the Exp39 for a while (that you can flick it open so easily)
@@Valera_Scotland And as for the Black vs Green Dial... I mean, Rolex has always been about Green.. BUT Black is more versatile. If it was me... I'd probably say Black is the ideal option. Perfect for Strap changes. Really, really low key. And that's where the Explorer gets all of its goodness 😆 It's a difficult one to say the least...
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@@domi2622 I promise to get back to you tomorrow Dominik and I'm sorry for taking so long! Thank you also for the donation, sir. Greatly, greatly appreciated 🥃
Love the broad arrow hands , so legible. And weirdly never seem to date. They also give the watches a strong masculine vibe, even in a dresser watch like the aqua terra. Personally I prefer the original design of the speedie, with the black.face / white hands combo. And a 42mm case size is a better fit, especially for a chrono, or any modern sports watch, on my 19cm wrist anyway. Just checking down the side of the sofa , but I'm a bit short of the 80k needed for this example anyway .
Good video, not feeling the watch though. But then I've never been a speedmaster fan. Also I'm just not sure how I feel about this tendency to sack off your core customer base and release something that in all likelihood will end up on the wrist of someone interested in status only.
Excellently said George. It's a weird state of affairs with a piece like this. Catering to the vintage enthusiast that only the super wealthy can afford 🥃
An excellent idea Paolo. Just as long as you trust the watchmaker to do the job properly. Something about those Alpha hands hit differently though (given the choice I'd probably keep the hands and maybe change the hands on the subdials) ;)
Sorry to say the metals breakdown is incorrect. There is no such thing as white gold. It is yellow gold with various amounts of other elemental metals.
65th anniversary for all of these pieces. It's very exciting! If they can implement some of these upgrades (like the bracelet etc) into these models and make them steel (without Fauxtina) they will be winners! 🔥
Oops 😆 Funnily enough I checked and rechecked the spelling on all of them twice and STILL effed it up... Broad arrow watches like everything are an acquired taste 🥃
Will Omega ever mass-produce a version of these in steel with a different movement and a more reasonable price? Omega has definitely left the 38mm side of the speedy range hanging with some awful current models. It’s frustrating that when smaller heritage models do come out, they’re limited editions and/or between $14k and $80k. Omega is missing a 38-39mm speedy with the price of the Professional that isn’t some dumbed-down or ugly modern interpretation. As an aside: So far the Speedmaster ‘57 has come the closest, but it was a LE. The FOIS has the same bezel diameter as the Pro and a similar LTL, so it’s not exactly a downsized option. The Ed White is the right size, but too expensive. There is a so-called Speedmaster 38, and let’s just say it doesn’t look much like a heritage speedy. Your options are: fork out the big bucks, or buy a Reduced, which is what I did.
Well said. The best we've gotten so far is the Trilogy 57 Speedmaster and the FOIS (and CK2998) but seeing this model with a modern Co-Axial 3861... I have a feeling this might only be the beginning. By the end of the year we might be surprised with this piece in Steel (It's too good of an opportunity to ignore for them 😉)
@@ID-Guy Agreed. It’s definitely a corner of the market Omega has ignored. We know it’s possible to produce a legitimate smaller speedy with heritage design roots at a reasonable price, so I hope you’re right… and that Omega is listening!
I’ve always thought Omega has better design execution than Rolex. Well, Omega is willing to take risks while Rolex stays close to home and plays it safe. I’m not a fan of the precious metal. That’s just me.
That's for sure, risk-taking. Sometimes they go to far and on other occasions they nail it (I think deep down we all have an affinity for Omega because they can offer you so much diversity) Great point on this Chris 🥃
@@ID-Guy I’ve said before, Rolex is like a spoiled immature teenager not getting enough attention. Omega and even Tudor for that matter offer a great watch at a reasonable price without having to grovel at an A.D’s feet. I’m going to venture to an A.D. and take a peek at the Tudor FXD. I’m not a fan of blue dials but dang, that’s a sweet watch and screams tool watch ready for any adventure to cross its path.
@@chrisstevenson2622 Tudor's next on my list. I'm clearing a few pieces and saving for one of these FXD's hopefully Mid to 3rd quarter this year. Getting it for the exact reason you mentioned. Damn good value for money, "affordable", in-house, solid built (And it's going to be SUCH a great tool) I can already see it as a grab-and-go for me. Also love the backstory attached to it... and I was born on the 22nd, so MN22 is just badass. Even content creators are getting tired of talking about Rolex at this stage because they're almost too far-gone at this point 😉
No. The watch is stunning and fantastic, but still no. For me, the Speedmaster is the one that went to the moon. 321, steel, professional, velcro strap. So this would be 105.012 or 145.012.
This model is obviously going for the whales of our world,Omega have nothing to prove having done that time and time again with other more practical models.....................................
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Great video. I thought the 57 Speedmaster reissue was my favorite. This takes they design to the highest level. Love all the details. The 57 is already easy out of my range. This be one? Dreams were grounded before they even were launched once the price was made known.
Will they ever make the broad arrow Speedmaster at a more approachable and obtainable option without the limited edition that seems to always go with them?
Idk?.. or, do you think such designs should only be reserved for limited production with the ultra high price tags to preserve it's uniqueness and collectibiliy to keep it special?
@@khronokraze And they even improved the bracelets on this model... Taper AND a better milled out clasp (it makes me jealous in a way BUT there's something quite nice about the heftier bracelet on the 57's) - I really think that we'll be seeing these in steel soon. It's too good of an opportunity for them to pass on. Plus, a 3861 movement in here would be killer... It would be a pity if they keep these original designs solely as Limited Editions... but that could also be an option (as you say, keeping them special) Something tells me this year we'll see something else added to the lineup 😉
@@ID-Guy nice. Who knows.. there rest is no limit to how many subtle variations they can produce of essentially the same model. I sincerely hope whatever the case, it is made of "obtainium"... A more financially palatable option for the masses.
I've been buying Rolex, AP, and PP for the past 20 years... my last Omega was a Seamaster 25+ years ago... why? Because nothing they made was worth even it's MSRP price at 25% off... but this watch is a game changer... As a Porsche 911 guy, I can relate to your analogy... as such, I bought this watch our in the original Stainless Steel after a 2 year wait.. It's a work of horological art.
This omega release is an absolute stunner! The broad arrow hand is a logical choice and opportunity that Omega shouldn’t squander away. Amazing camera shots! Could you imagine a black pvd version of this??? Omega really has endless possibilities with this release. Thank you for such an enticing review! I always look forward to your next video.
Love it. Imho the Speedmaster is already the ultimate chronograph, & this has elevated it even higher. Just awesome - actually like the case back myself, but would prefer a gently domed crystal. Excellent video, thank you 👍🏻👍🏻
It is a gorgeous machine, same gripes as me with the crystal (being domed instead of boxed) 😉 Thank you as always Steve!
I clicked "like" on this video before it was done; you're good ID guy, keep up the videos!
This is an absolutely stunning watch and dare I say my favorite Speedy of all time! The price is crazy and completely out of reach for me but this is one to add to the "holy grail" list but one that is realistic many years down the line so long as the watch doesn't skyrocket in value. If I am doing well in life, let's say in 10-20 years, then I think I'd be taking a very hard look at this watch.
Love the design, proportions and size of this watch 👌
Makes me want that 1957 trilogy edition even more!
I'd happily add the 57 Speedie to the collection (even with my Seamaster) It's one of those "slow release" models that'll have its hooks in you over time 😉 These broad arrows are so special... Something tells me people are going to chasing them in years to come 🥃
Agree, the trilogy model now seems even more intriguing. Imagine Omega puts a 321 movement in it and a sapphire back 🙌🏻
excellent video, great insight shared, i have the trilogy speedmaster, and this new release is somthing really special
Given the chance I'd happily add a Trilogy Speedmaster to the collection. It's been one of those "slow release" pieces for me, but the love for Broad Arrows trumps everything else. Such a great piece and I hope you're wearing yours with pride, brother 🥃
Excellent as always. It's also nice to finally see what you like. Can now put a face to the voice :)
Nice video mate 🥃
This is a beautiful watch, and a chronograph dial that you can actually read is a plus. I couldn't agree with you more that the Omega broad arrow hands should be their snowflake or Mercedes emblem. Ditto on the sapphire and the etched case back.
The Crampus Speedy is $81,000. Sorry even with a 321 (covered with a logo ugh) there are so many better options out there for that money, high horology options. I just don't get it. PS loved the eye roll, IDGuy definitely gets it haha
One other note, that broad hour I dont know it blocks the sub dials. I like the Ed White, he didn't even step foot on the moon and got the best Speedy out of it, cheers to that - calling it in.
Great point about the hour hand Nef. Funnily enough, I'll be doing a hands-on review of a watch next week that is a broad arrow that deliberately doesn't cover its sub-dials. Ed was a lucky guy with that gem of a watch 😉 Hope you've been keeping well and enjoyed your break over the holidays!
Another great video !
Thank you Junior. Love talking about these "completely impossible to own" models from time to time 😆
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A big gripe I also have with a lot of Grand Seiko models, as well.
Weird that brands keep doing this, right? I guess its cheaper to paint the crystal than engrave the surrounding areas of the caseback but still! You've just reminded me how GS does the same with their pieces 😆
Thanks for another great review. The seahorse eye gets me too and then I remember that this is where art intersects with craft, technique, and history. Perhaps this is instructive too and reminds some of us there can be a thin line between enough and too much.
Im so glad to see you jumping on this review. The onyx multi tiered dial plus the enameled bezel is surely going to be stunning in person. The laser engraving is a crime against humanity. And for 80k 38.5?!
No sir, for that kinda cash im wanting a 41 (and a belt sander for the horsey) great watch tho
First of all, great review. Secondly, I love the watch. Lastly, one gripe besides the price for me are the broad arrow hand, they look fabulous in pictures, however, across the Omega lineup, when you see them in person and having multiple broad arrow hand models, I find they fall pretty flat in that they look kind of two dimensional IMO. Cheers
Nice POV around the Broad Arrows. I think Omega needs a leg-up with them and their lineup (simple things like brushing and polishing can liven them up a lot) 😉 Thank you for the great comment and for taking the time to watch the clip! 🥃
Got to agree about the laser etching on the caseback. What were they thinking?
We've gotta keep reminding them that Less is More. Sooner or later the message will get through. To cover up a 321 movement is just....criminal 😆
Yes. Yes. Yes. The broad arrow hour hand should be the signature of the brand. The Planet Ocean reversal drives me batty. Loved the eye roll....Is there a weekend show this weekend?
It just makes sense that the Broad Arrow becomes a statement for the brand, right? Maybe this is an example that they're looking in that direction? I hope you had an excellent break Karl! On the Livestream front I'm thinking of postponing them until February (really enjoying getting these videos together over the weeks while editing others - surprisingly have a few deadlines to meet this month) 😆
I love this watch, the three layer dial from Onyx, the case made from a blend of expensive super shiny stuff housing that 321 movement, it's easily the best speedy release. There is a lot of work that has gone into this piece and hence the price. The number made I'm sure will be low that would also add to the price. The more you make the cheaper most items would become. For those fortunate enough to afford and procure this watch, enjoy a fantastic watch and wear it. As for the broad arrow hands? Omega are already inconsistent with the Aqua Terra models have the broad arrow on the minute hand, The Planet Ocean on both hands and the Seamaster 300 on the hour hand only. Other ranges without the broad arrow and oddly for me I'm OK with this. I have to agree with your other gripes though about the sapphire crystals.
Nicely said as always Anthony. These will be special models, no doubt. And over the last few months I've really been looking at the CK2915 differently (as a piece I'd happily add to the collection with my Seamaster) They're just too much fun... Who knows what they'll be up to this year? It's also the 65th Anni for the Seamaster and Railmaster (and Ranchero) 😉 We might be in for a few surprises!
Stunningly beautiful watch. I agree with your critique of the hippocampus on the crystal. They could have etched it into the caseback like the do the Omega globe. As to the sapphire it could have been put in the middle of the Omega letter on the 321 movement.
Great vid... I think this watch still takes a back seat to the 321 Platinum.
A very beautiful watch.
Like the Mona Lisa, something the majority of us will only see in photos.
Omega has been carried forward by the, “little “ watch buyers.
I would have thought they would reward those people with a watch.
Not just the few.
We can never tell, maybe they'll be bringing these out in steel to compete with the Ed Whites? Odds are the EW's will be more popular SO these might get into our hands easier? It's also the 65th Seamaster & Railmaster anniversary this year 🔥
65th anniversary is for the trilogy. Next year is the 75th anniversary of the Seamaster launch in 1948. I am expecting a winner (for the masses please, Omega).
Your super well-spoken. Enjoy your videos.
Thank you brother and for taking the time to watch the clip. It's all in the microphone, I promise 😉
Baie goeie video my ou ! Just got the Speedmaster 57 Co-axial . Love the broad hands .
1:30 *Palladium (not Pilladium)
"5% Platinum and Rhodium"...2.5% each or something else?
It's absolutely bewildering to me why Omega keeps shooting itself in the foot by overthinking and overdoing things, in this case by laser etching the entire case back.
I'm rooting for Omega to succeed in the coming decades but they really can't afford to keep making dumb decisions like this, especially considering how many potential lifetime customers are currently there for the taking, given the arrogance Rolex continues to show to anyone who is looking to buy their first watch.
Absolutely Jason. Flamboyance for flamboyance sake... only the enthusiast will be keen to own one of these pieces and I don't think anyone out there wants a movement covered by fluff... doing this to a 321 is boarderline criminal 😆 Like you, of all the brands out there I want Omega to continue succeeding. Someone out there needs to keep telling them that "less is more" 🥃
@@ID-Guy I think omega needs these three things a CEO that understands that they don’t want to be Rolex, they just want to be Omega, second a financtial head that understands that the money isn’t on competing with everyone, but in competing with Rolex and Tudor in their field without the pomp just your history and heritage, and making them 2nd guess how and when to release a product aka for every black bay chrono you’ll have either a moonwatch profesional at its original price aka under 4k and above 4-5k (sapphire sandwich) and so on and so forth, and last but not least a designer that, as you say understands the less is more approach, and the let’s re interpret a classic approach like we saw in the chronoscope. Omega are close to greatness, they just need to stop chasing the rosy crown and focus on the endgame. Hell imagine a speedy astronaut an auto broad arrow speedy that tracks 24 hours, a step forwards while looking back
@@ID-Guy I agree, but at least it's more tasteful and less intrusive than caseback decorations à la Grand Seiko
Awesome point about the broad arrow needing to be a beacon of omega like Mercedes hand to Rolex and snowflake to Tudor
I actually think the broad arrow is brilliant.
Anything Omega and Broad Arrow, I'm always onboard 😉 So distinct and gorgeous. Thanks for this Craig!
A lovely thing, for sure. Does it indicate future expansion of the 321 range? A steel CK321? A cool prospect. That said, the 321 is a nice movement, but 'great'? Expensive to service and sits outside the brand's core anti-magnetic, co-axial strategy. Conflicted. Whatever, $80k is bizarre - Lange/Patek money. But Omega have previous - the Canopus Speedy Pro is weirdly expensive too.
A very thoughtful and interesting review, thanks, and I find myself in agreement with all your observations. The etched Hippocampus on the back crystal ruins the whole thing, and having to find a clever way to add a spurious sapphire to the watch is, frankly, something you would expect on an 80s R***x!!! Yes, it’s that bad, and I suspect that OMEGA will eventually offer a free plain crystal replacement as part of the first service and a delete option for the Hippo on ordering the watch new.
Finally, I found that incessant and loud clicking noise really distracting. I know it’s your ID audio logo, but just a few seconds either end of the video would be more than sufficient, thanks.
that horse thing on the back with the diamond eye and that Speedmaster engrraving.....wtf?
Cool, right? 😆 Baffling for all of us to see...
I hope they make a Tiffany blue dial.
Don't we all? It's going to break new records! What a time to be alive 😆
Is the bezel diameter the same as the current standard moonwatch?
It's not, as far as I know the bezel diameter on these are 38.5mm and the current moonwatch sits at 41. something something millimetres. These old-school models are quite a lot smaller in diameter 🥃
Beautiful and mad....p.s. matey I have changed my goal from Explorer 36mm to OP 36mm green. It speaks to me much more
Explorer to OP?? Bold, Valera! Bold. Think deeply about this one (because the Explorer is is a beauty 😉)
@@ID-Guy ha ha yes!! I know what you mean. But.... I tried on the green. I have not tried the Explorer... the green is special, striking and different.. and I don't like the safety clasp if I'm honest.. anyway you know I'll be happy with whichever one I get the call about
@@ID-Guy also considering the black 36mm... you know I've just realised that I prefer the less cluttered dial. Less words, one white gold crown. I love the double batons at 3 6 9... the rounded bezel.. I'm just really convinced that it's the classiest rolex... so the green (which looks black in certain light), or black? What would you choose?... and nice to know that when I'm ready to buy, I should be able to find a black one easily...green not so easily but I'm on the list anyway
@@Valera_Scotland The safety clasps can be a bit of a nuisance. I poked a big hole in them experiencing the Exp39 for a while (that you can flick it open so easily)
@@Valera_Scotland And as for the Black vs Green Dial... I mean, Rolex has always been about Green.. BUT Black is more versatile. If it was me... I'd probably say Black is the ideal option. Perfect for Strap changes. Really, really low key. And that's where the Explorer gets all of its goodness 😆 It's a difficult one to say the least...
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Great review. Love the piece but not the price. :)
Almost as much as a Tiffany Nautilus 😆
Omega’s playing the same game? Buy the Canopus gold and get to the top of the list for the new Snoopy and Ed White.
Could be exactly the reason... Imagine paying 80k for a watch just to own a 15k stainless steel model? 😆 You've gotta laugh
Love the broad arrow hands , so legible. And weirdly never seem to date. They also give the watches a strong masculine vibe, even in a dresser watch like the aqua terra. Personally I prefer the original design of the speedie, with the black.face / white hands combo. And a 42mm case size is a better fit, especially for a chrono, or any modern sports watch, on my 19cm wrist anyway. Just checking down the side of the sofa , but I'm a bit short of the 80k needed for this example anyway .
The broad arrow is a classic and just perfect.
Good video, not feeling the watch though. But then I've never been a speedmaster fan. Also I'm just not sure how I feel about this tendency to sack off your core customer base and release something that in all likelihood will end up on the wrist of someone interested in status only.
Excellently said George. It's a weird state of affairs with a piece like this. Catering to the vintage enthusiast that only the super wealthy can afford 🥃
My friend. It's palladium, not pilladium.. unless this is some new metal I never heard of?
Palladium (Pd), not Pilladium
I double checked the spelling of all of those twice and still screwed it up. Utter genius 😆
Love the watch, just cant understand the price.
It's a head-scratcher for a lot of us. Some of us are thinking they're playing the "buy this to move up the list" game now? 🥃
I'm seriously thinking to get my FOIS, change the hands and make it become an Ed White.....
An excellent idea Paolo. Just as long as you trust the watchmaker to do the job properly. Something about those Alpha hands hit differently though (given the choice I'd probably keep the hands and maybe change the hands on the subdials) ;)
You guys are nuts :)
I think 🤔 Canopus gold is also a name for quality weed that can be bought at a head shop nearby.
I was so, so close to throwing some "cannabis" into the mix somehow. Wouldn't be a surprise with names like "Acapulco Gold" existing 😆
damn this is more expensive than Patek chronograph
Sorry to say the metals breakdown is incorrect. There is no such thing as white gold. It is yellow gold with various amounts of other elemental metals.
Rumours are there is a new Seamaster reissue on the horizon.
65th anniversary for all of these pieces. It's very exciting! If they can implement some of these upgrades (like the bracelet etc) into these models and make them steel (without Fauxtina) they will be winners! 🔥
@@ID-Guy Personally, I'd love to see the old Seamaster Mariner make a come back. Something about those rectangular cases just gets me excited.
Spelling; Palladium. Also, I'm never going to buy any watch with an ugly arrowhead hand, not that I can afford this one.😏
Oops 😆 Funnily enough I checked and rechecked the spelling on all of them twice and STILL effed it up... Broad arrow watches like everything are an acquired taste 🥃
@@ID-Guy Pilladium; an element exclusive to Omega.
Will Omega ever mass-produce a version of these in steel with a different movement and a more reasonable price? Omega has definitely left the 38mm side of the speedy range hanging with some awful current models. It’s frustrating that when smaller heritage models do come out, they’re limited editions and/or between $14k and $80k. Omega is missing a 38-39mm speedy with the price of the Professional that isn’t some dumbed-down or ugly modern interpretation.
As an aside: So far the Speedmaster ‘57 has come the closest, but it was a LE. The FOIS has the same bezel diameter as the Pro and a similar LTL, so it’s not exactly a downsized option. The Ed White is the right size, but too expensive. There is a so-called Speedmaster 38, and let’s just say it doesn’t look much like a heritage speedy. Your options are: fork out the big bucks, or buy a Reduced, which is what I did.
Well said. The best we've gotten so far is the Trilogy 57 Speedmaster and the FOIS (and CK2998) but seeing this model with a modern Co-Axial 3861... I have a feeling this might only be the beginning. By the end of the year we might be surprised with this piece in Steel (It's too good of an opportunity to ignore for them 😉)
@@ID-Guy Agreed. It’s definitely a corner of the market Omega has ignored. We know it’s possible to produce a legitimate smaller speedy with heritage design roots at a reasonable price, so I hope you’re right… and that Omega is listening!
I’ve always thought Omega has better design execution than Rolex. Well, Omega is willing to take risks while Rolex stays close to home and plays it safe. I’m not a fan of the precious metal. That’s just me.
That's for sure, risk-taking. Sometimes they go to far and on other occasions they nail it (I think deep down we all have an affinity for Omega because they can offer you so much diversity) Great point on this Chris 🥃
@@ID-Guy I’ve said before, Rolex is like a spoiled immature teenager not getting enough attention. Omega and even Tudor for that matter offer a great watch at a reasonable price without having to grovel at an A.D’s feet. I’m going to venture to an A.D. and take a peek at the Tudor FXD. I’m not a fan of blue dials but dang, that’s a sweet watch and screams tool watch ready for any adventure to cross its path.
@@chrisstevenson2622 Tudor's next on my list. I'm clearing a few pieces and saving for one of these FXD's hopefully Mid to 3rd quarter this year. Getting it for the exact reason you mentioned. Damn good value for money, "affordable", in-house, solid built (And it's going to be SUCH a great tool) I can already see it as a grab-and-go for me. Also love the backstory attached to it... and I was born on the 22nd, so MN22 is just badass. Even content creators are getting tired of talking about Rolex at this stage because they're almost too far-gone at this point 😉
@@ID-Guy for a no-frills grab & go tool watch I highly recommend the Citizen ProMaster Tough Ref# BB0211-50E.
@@chrisstevenson2622 “Rolex is like a spoiled immature teenager not getting enough attention” LMFAO 🤣 how exactly??
its expensive that what
Broad arrow is the best speedy ever.
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Welcome to the First club, John 😉
No. The watch is stunning and fantastic, but still no. For me, the Speedmaster is the one that went to the moon. 321, steel, professional, velcro strap. So this would be 105.012 or 145.012.
Compared to the Rolex Paul Newman it's down right cheap.
The price
Yes... but they made the Porsche out of white gold and priced it to be 10x the price of a new Porsche
This model is obviously going for the whales of our world,Omega have nothing to prove having done that time and time again with other more practical models.....................................
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