What is the No.1 thing that's made you Dislike a watch you've owned? As days go by, its case thickness for me. Another small nitpick is probably heavy blue AR coating on watch crystals ;)
@@HRM.H Oof, I think about the 1861 Speedmaster with that older bracelet, also some Rolex pieces in the past when they transitioned over to SELs. Great point. Severe overhang makes the fit seem so awkward 🥃
@@rowluxillusion5235 Man, it bugs me when the proportions are spot-on but it wears like a hockey puck on the wrist. Chrono's today (with modular movements) are huge culprits today. Think this issue has made me sell at least 3 pieces in the past 🥃
I would agree with buying into the hype thing. Two example from my journey would be the Moonswatch and the Citizen Tsuyosa. Not bad watches at all but they do not get a lot of wear time. Now I know that I like a decent level of finishing and quality. One of the most comfortable watches I have is the Oris Aquid 41.5. Just the right fit and finish for the value.
My only regret is getting into watches altogether. I was happy with my Seiko for 11 years, and then I discovered Watchfinder & Co, goddamnit. EDIT: I should add, since moving to Taiwan 2 months ago, I brought my Seiko Speedtimer and Casio W86 with me, but I've worn my Citizen Promaster for all but one day, so I suppose I have a favourite watch atm here in Taiwan.
This really hit home. One, I bought a used Submariner and noticed one lug had a scratch across the top. Got it polished, then realized the lug was no longer as crisp on the edges anymore. Second instance, got an IWC Portuguese Chrono after hyping it up in my mind for months. First reaction upon receiving, 'huh, that's it?'.
I’m glad someone picked it up 😉 AND “just leaves you flat” a few seconds after when the top of the movement is shown. Always enjoy adding lil easter eggs into clips when the opportunity presents 🥃
This is exactly why I always suggest to try the watch you want in real life, because numbers alone won't tell you how it will fit. Years back, I was dead set on buying Rado Capt Cook green dial, because man, that color is beautiful, and numbers suggested that I could wear it, but alas, it was far too big for my wrist. Same thing with gen 2 PO, I really wanted all white one, and I yearned for it, but when I tried it on, it was far too huge, too thick to wear it comfortably. On the other hand, my latest purchase, Dynamic III Marui limited, on paper, it's too small at 36 (some say 36.5), but I really wanted one, so I went a long way to try it on, and surprise, it fits far better than I expected. So my advice is, just as with guitars, try it on first before buying. Never buy a watch (esp expensive ones) sight unseen. AND! NEVER EVER do impulse purchases. Wait 6 months. look at that watch again, and if you still want it, then wait 6 more months. and by then if you still want it, then it's time for you to try it on.
I spent 8 years looking for the right watch before purchasing and I have no regrets. To find a watch that really sparked joy I spent more than I originally intended but the key for me was learning what I really like: applied Arabic numerals, good lume, interesting hands, script writing on the dial and enough water resistance to never need to remove it. My advice is take your time and don’t compromise.
@@FT-ho6cb Glausutte Original SeaQ Panorama Date, black dial on a bracelet. I bought it at a discount at an AD but it still cost almost twice what my original budget was. I just couldn’t find a watch that worked for me both aesthetically and technically. In addition to what I previously mentioned it has a graceful case that hides its thickness and a beautifully decorated movement with a 100-hour power reserve. When I started my search this watch wasn’t on the market. My wife wasn’t happy with the cost but like anything else it depends on how much you use it. I never take it off. It had dive watch water resistance so I even do the dishes with it. Two years in the case has no scratches and the bracelet shows only slight wear. My grandfather was a poor immigrant and I have his mass-produced Elgin pocket watch. It still works. I have my father’s Hamilton wristwatch. Still works. One day my grandson will have my watch.
I do think that the explosion of you tube videos is a mixed blessing in that it makes us want to buy then sell more watches than we used to in the past
The opposite can also be annoying: the free or cheap watch that you find yourself enjoying more than half of your expensive, horologicaly significant pieces. It makes you question everything - is it all just a hopeless pursuit?
YES! I own about a dozen mid-tier watches, yet, a Casio G-Shock, a quartz Casio Duro, and a no name solar watch get 90% of my wrist time. Very 'freeing' not having to worry about scratching them, bumping them against a doorway, etc.
Excellent point. I’m currently wearing an Octopus Pelagos 39 homage that I like far better than the actual Tudor watch. The Octopus was $200, yet hits me better than when I’ve tried on the P39.
The bottom line is not to be afraid of making mistakes or blaming oneself for having been too emotional or naive or swayed by (clever) marketing. Making mistakes means learning, and there are no shortcuts. I keep a ‘watch journal’ to help me stay (fairly) rational about the watches I desire. Great video, thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I honestly could not articulate the "dislikes" more soundly than you did. The point is to take a breath, evaluate the desire one has in a watch, and ask yourself if this is truly the watch. There is nothing worse than going all in a particular watch, only to discover something more appealing than the one you just put all your stock in. It can be a slippery slope, for sure.
The thickness factor is huge tbh , I love the SLA017 to bits , the iconic 62mas case , 8L35 movement, Zaratsu polishing, grey anthracite dial , but the 14mm thickness is just depressing to see 😔
As always another great video. Many years ago, while in the Army, I stumbled on G-Shock. I really didn't know much about them, but I thought I would try one out. I have never not had one since :) Under promised...over delivered. Yes size matters, too big and too heavy will rear it's ugly head, and before you know it, traded or forgotten. I have come to peace with accuracy. On the weekends I bring all my watches to my desk, with a cup of coffee, some eggs and set them. For the design flaws, I'm a work in progress. I have done some lite modding, which again i'm a work in progress ;) I have come to terms that there is no perfect watch, that there is going to be something that will make me say "what if..." So I embrace the watches I have, and just try to make as many memories as I can.
Stopped buying Seiko altogether because of 2 consistent flaws that seem to be some cultural 'don't be to perfect' ethos: 7 o'clock marker misplaced, and movement loses time in most or all positions. After 8 Seikos I gave up.
Sorry to hear that . . . the Seiko Kinetic Sports 200 diver I bought in 1996 (and which I wear every day pretty much) keeps time to within a second or two a month.
My biggest regret has been buying watches that ended up being too heavy on the wrist so I couldn't wear them for long periods of time without experiencing pain or discomfort. Second has been one you mentioned about the fit of the braclet-nothing worse then being between sizes and not having a micro adjustment to correct for it
Size definitely matters. I convinced myself I wanted the 36 DJ because it was the most classic and traditional size. I’m 6’3 225 and it always looked small on me. Breaking point was when my girlfriend said something. Two years of ownership and only a handful of wears later I moved on from it.
I am not really a watch collector, but I do have a number of them, not very expensive. I look at them and enjoy the right things about them and don’t put too much attention on what I feel could be better. However, I can’t abide size issues, too small too big, and discomfort and ill fitting.
Oh yes, definitely has happened to me. I had a vintage Datejust that I wanted so badly to love but at 36mm it was just comically small on my wrist. I tried to get past it but simply couldn’t. And I’ve bought a watch because of its beautiful dial, only to realize later that the legibility is bad, despite the pretty dial. 😢
Your last point really sums up my experience, just rely on your own experience and not be so bothered by a spec sheet or some expert opinion. This was a great topic for discussion and reflection. 🥃
Definitely something we learn after a few years experiencing watches Alvin, absolutely. The paperwork is one thing but as a wearer everything changes. Have a superb weekend sir! 🥃
For me it was a Tudor BB 41. The one with a smooth bezel. I just never connected to it. More so I bought it as a reward for moving jobs and I connected to that employer. That employer gave me the most stressful 3 years of my life. I hated my time there. While I had actual issues with the watch but it could have been perfect and I would have sold it anyway. I used the money to buy a silver dial Monta Noble when it launched. On paper the Monta is not in the same ballpark as the Tudor but I truly love wearing the Monta. It could honestly be my one watch...or maybe it's because it represents freedom from a nightmare job. Regardless it is one of my few forever watches.
A brilliant and eloquent overview. As most of few watches I own are of sentimental value, it is that factor that dominates how I feel about them to the exclusion of any negatives. That said, a new Tissot Seastar Chronograph which my girlfriend bought me as a landmark birthday present irks me as the the centre second hand doesn't align 100% with the 12 o'clock marker . . . and that alone means it doesn't get much wrist time. The subtext moral here is always buy your own watches!
I've noticed that I get tired of vintage looks. I think they look cool, but I get tired of the look way too quickly and end up not wearing it, and that's bad if I have lot of money tied up in the watch. For this reason I've pretty much given up on luxury watches and now stick with simple everyday affordable watches. I would be perfectly fine if the Seiko SRPE51 "dress KX" and the G-shock dw-6900 are the only two watches I have. Good topic as always, Cheers.
I bought my titanium seamaster 300m NTTD with its brown dial and beautiful aesthetic, and was smitten. And then low light occurred. Such as sitting in the lounge. And I couldn’t read the time. 6 months later, sold.
Great vid. It's a subject that most of us want to pretend isn't an issue, but not getting-on with a watch we loved in principle, can be a bitter pill, as you say. I can summarise what ive learnt during my personal watch collecting journey, very succinctly and conversely to your own experience, based on the vid (having spent not an insignificant sum on learning this lesson!): Buy the seemingly "boring" looking watches, and buy the small version. The more "boring" the watch, the more versatile. I've bought so many watches that looked so interesting/fun/different/quirky/avant-garde and so on. They look great in the cabinet, in marketing and in your mind...but when it comes to wearing them, you realise it suits almost nothing you wear.
I convinced myself the current Seamaster was my ideal watch, I gave it a good run (4 years) but ultimately it was too cumbersome. Bracelet felt too chunky and uncomfortable, case just that fraction too big...I traded it in for a Pelagos 39mm and it fits like a glove.
The best what can happen to a watch enthousiast is that you discover your style in watches. Once that has happened it is not likely your future watch-buys will turn into a disappointment. Great topic my friend!
The only watches I've ever regretted buying are cheaper models...usually scumb to them when I really prefer a more costly watch but cheap out and buy the lesser watch...then still desire the more expensive model.
@@ID-GuyIs the more expensive watch actually better or are you fooling yourself into believing it's better because you can't admit it was an expensive mistake?
I have regrets. But after several years, I learned that a) I don't need to follow trends, b) I don't need to spend huge money to enjoy this and c) I should just buy what I like. For me. Not for anyone else. I've been disappointed by many luxury watches, like how my Speedy wore on wrist. But learned to move on and enjoy watches I actually like. For me ' 35-38mm field style. Loving my Smiths Navigator prs-48 man... on a VWC grey nato.. just wonderful
@xpusostomos it looks beautiful. It's not too heavy especially on straps. But to me, the case size and thickness are a little large. I prefer smaller watches. But you'll be fine. Just try one on
My biggest regret is starting to collect multiple watches instead of getting one and done that I created memories with. Ending up in not being able to sell the ones that I have fond memories with 😂 Paying too much and buying in bulk are the ones that hurt the most. Great video bro 👍🏽
@@xpusostomos I don't want to sell them, but when the collection starts to be more than 18 watches, and you have memories with all of them, it becomes impossible
Very good video. For me it was diameter. I bought the meteorite dial Bulova Lunar Pilot thinking it would fit my 160mm wrist. It felt like I was wearing a dinner plate on the wrist.
Diameter bugs me too these days. Just a simple dial colour and the watch can look way bigger or smaller too… it’s always best to go a bit under your parameters (like aiming for a 39mm) and reaping the rewards, at least I’ve learnt 🥃
What a GREAT video. After about 100 watches in my life (lots as a kid and younger adult before I bought a ‘serious’ watch) and 50 ish ‘serious’ ones in the last decade, I am very confident in saying everything you said is spot on…BUT only for people like you (or me?) who have a super-keen and precise eye for the minutiae of design. I don’t think everyone has that and I wish I was one of those people 🙂 It’s a game, trying to find the ones which are near ‘perfect’. I talk myself into watches, and very quickly out of them again. Here’s my collection of what I’ve owned and still own. I’ve never owned more than 4 larger ones at a time and each one has been ‘perfect’ for sometimes days, sometimes years…but almost all have been moved on for the same reasons you mention. ── 29 Larger purchases ── 2014 Omega Black Seamaster 300 2254.50 2014 Omega Blue Quartz Seamaster 2015 Omega Blue Automatic Seamaster 2220.80 2015 Omega Small Planet Ocean on rubber 2016 Omega Large Planet Ocean on rubber 2016 Omega Black Seamaster ceramic 2016 Omega Blue Aqua Terra 2016 Omega Speedmaster sapphire sandwich 2016 Rolex Explorer 39mm gen 1 2016 Rolex Explorer 39mm gen 2 2017 Rolex Submariner Hulk 116610LV 2018 Rolex Submariner 114060LN 2019 Tudor Black Bay 58 2020 Tudor Black Bay GMT 2020 Grand Seiko Heritage Blue Quartz 2021 Rolex Oyster Perpetual 369 blue 2021 Rolex Submariner 124060 2021 JLC Reverso Tribute Duoface 2021 Rolex Yachtmaster 37mm 2021 Tudor Oyster Prince Date from 1984 2022 Rolex Submariner 14060m 2022 Rolex Explorer 114270 36mm 2022 Rolex Datejust 16234 36mm 2022 Rolex Datejust 16200 36mm white 2023 Tudor Black Bay 54 37mm 2023 Rolex Datejust 16200 36mm black 2023 Omega Aqua Terra Quartz 2518.50 - OWN 2023 Rolex Datejust 126200 - OWN 2024 Omega 2605 from 1952 - OWN ─ 16 Smaller purchases ─ Not in order: Seiko Sarb033 Seiko SNZF Davosa Ternos Doxa Sub Nezumi Tonnare Maurice Lacroix Aikon Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical Casio Gshock Casioak Seiko 5 SRPE57K1 Pulsar Diver Furlan Marri Laccato Nero Clemence Diver Certina DS Action Diver 38 Citizen pilots Citizen eco drive world timer Traska Summiteer - OWN
What an excellent series of pieces! Holy Smokes! There comes a point when you think "maybe I'm overthinking just a hair too much with some of the pieces I decide to cull" And you'e right, this level of pedantry is only for us maniacs 😆 Thank you for sharing Al! 🥃
I am pleased to say that I actually had the opposite experience with the Oris Chronoris Movember Edition. A few years ago I was looking for a supercompressor style watch. It was before the type became popular so I had limited choices. I found the Oris on eBay. It seemed a bit too quirky but the price was really good so I decided to take a chance. Over time it has become one of my favorite watches. I put it on a Marine Nationale strap. The cushion case is the perfect size and very comfortable to wear. The dial design is interesting and functional, and the color combination is very pleasing. I wish all of my acquisitions worked out so well.
All is very true. There are watches that you fall out of love for and just don’t have the same eye for anymore. I own a Marathon CSAR that I purchased from a great fella out in Las Vegas. This is a watch that I absolutely fell in love with the moment I saw it on Watch You Seek forums and still love the darn thing today. I got an amazing deal on it and it never ceases to put a smile on my face every time I strap it to my wrist. It’s a TANK yes but it fits perfectly on my wrist and looks bad ass in the wild. Cheers!
Great video! Having a well-adjustable bracelet is something super important to me, I would be reluctant to buy a newly released watch without at least micro-adjustment and half links, if not easy-adjustment.
Always great content! Thank you for talking about this subject. For me my most disappointing aspect on a watch is the proportions (dial, hands, indexes ratio).
#5 (Bracelet) is a big consideration for me. How well a watch fits is of utmost importance! There are so many factors that go into it and I feel like a lot of companies treat bracelets as an afterthought to the watch head itself. If a watch is gorgeous but I can’t get a comfortable fit, I’m not going to wear it.
I guess I'm fortunate not to have many real buying regrets. The pieces I have which don't get a lot of wrist time are my cheaper ones. I have a Seiko I thought I would love, but don't. Luckily my son loves wearing it. The three expensives watches I own all get a lot of wrist time. Maybe I'm just old enough to know what I like. I love wearing watches and do so for my own enjoyment. It's nice though when a fellow enthusiast says, "hey, nice ..!"
Most recently it is the leather strap on a watch I have wanted, and bought, for years. IWC 7-Day, silver/blue, and switched it to a factory tan strap. Simply too stiff. I keep telling myself to give it time and not to look for some other strap. The factory one curves around the case, etc. I am trying to "work it" a bit with my hands, but still seems too stiff. I love the watch and with its size the strap being that stiff probably keeps it set on my wrist...so I re-assure myself. Compared to all my others, this one is bothering me. On the flip side. I fell in love with a Zenith Chronomaster Original black dial (tri-color subs) and LOVE it. Far exceeded my expectations. I worried about the case size. I was measuring everything in the collection to try to prepare myself if it was right. When it did arrive it wears perfectly. Love your videos and the great topic on this one!
Excellent point made as a reply to this, another strap from another brand usually always does it. My Zenith now lives on a Spanish leather from WatchGecko, my Seiko lives on an Omega Nato, same with my FXD 😆 There's nothing cooler than finding THE combo that works for your watch. And man, don't get me started with Zenith. Had mine for just over a year and I'm enjoying it more now than I did then. Freaking superb brand through and through! 🥃
Thank you for your feedback. I will indeed look into the 37 Yachtmaster. Even though I have a 71/4 wrist, I wish for the watch not only to be lighter and smaller in dimensions but also a big under the radar. Have no problem with 36-38mm
It’s crazy on point with the whole hype and expectations. My last purchase wasn’t something i planned but when i got it. I was blown away more than the ones I’ve been hyping and lusting over. The watch is the Hanhart 417es 39mm black dial. It’s been on my wrist nonstop since. So yes sometimes expectations and hype actually kills it faster than being pleasantly surprised.
Interesting perspective. I suspect you’re right on all counts. I’ve tried to temper any issues with a watch by making myself wait at least 1 year from the date that I first “fell in love” with it until I allow myself to buy it. That tempers a lot of issues. I’ve never sold a watch - I still wear each one I’ve bought, just some get less wrist time than others. But I accept that - it’s ok. I bought each one because it had feature(s) that I loved, and frankly that hasn’t gone away. So I love some less than I thought I would, but they all still warrant wrist time and I enjoy each one when wearing it. Crazy hobby, if that’s what we call it.
Really interesting points. I am very happy with my Black Bay 54 and when I do get bored or think I want a change - I ride it out. Luckily I've always come back to being happy again. Then again I do like being fairly minimal and I guess this is the trade-off. Excellent content sir!
No quick set date on the blnr gmt2....love the watch, but every time I put it on after wearing something else I know i have to leave "some time" to set it. Especially since the crown turn moves the handset a small amount compared to for instance a SPB143.
Wonderful video and thoughts! The boredom one is exactly what fear the most when looking at a BB58 in the shop window. I fear that I’d buy that and experience the boredom later because it’s almost too perfect in a way.
Great video! For me personally, it is the size (diameter) of a watch, but also the lug-to-lug measurement. I was wearing watches way too big for my relatively small wrists (17 cm). I started my collecting journey with a Seiko SARB033, which has a 38 mm diameter. After that, it went up to watches with 42-43 mm and now back down to 34-38 mm. Over the years, I have noticed that I don’t really enjoy wearing watches on leather straps. I bought a Minerva Pythagore with the calibre 48 in January of this year. It has been a watch I wanted for years! But now I rarely wear it because of the leather strap and overall elegant appearance, which doesn’t fit with my daily clothing.
My biggest ever watch disappointment was the Oris Divers 65 Cotton Candy. I love the way that watch wears and how it looks, but I only owned it for a month or so and had to sell it because I hated a few things about it: 1. It turned my wrist really green. 2. You could smell it from six feet away (it smelled like pennies - like really strongly). 3. I like how it looks when it's new and not when it starts to patina. I was gutted, because I absolutely love the look of it and 38mm is the perfect size for me.
Mostly size after wearing gave me a certain disappointment. The good thing with watches is you can sell them quite easy and had your time with them. Good video
The only disappointment I can think of (after just waking up) is with my actual favourite watch in my collection, my Reverie Diver in red with a 12 hour bezel. Because of its design I can't get NATO straps for it. Which would make it more comfortable in summer weather. I would love it if you'd take a look at that model in the future as I know some are still available.
Great eye, I included the 925 all over the place to try and link it up with the video thumbnail. Some kind of "through-line" watch for the video, y'know. I'm definitely not knocking it (the BB58 is always an easy target) 😆 I thought it would be cool to see it present here and there in places 🥃
@@ID-Guy I purchased the 925 when it came out and have never regretted it. I want the new 54 but I can’t part with the 925. One of the few watches I can honestly say I have no regrets about buying. Love your videos. Look forward to them more than any others.
I've gone through so many watches, thanks to where I live having an amazing second hand watch market, but owning so many so quickly means that I have definitely underappreciated many. Too much, too soon is a problem!
How about - “again remembering I don’t really like bracelets as a wearing experience” - they look so good but are heavy and scratch up on the underside. But I’ll never learn.
The first thing I will dislike is if the watch is uncomfortable to wear. Does the watch have a hot spot on your wrist or does it spread the contact patch flatly across the wrist? In this context I think I prefer steel case backs over sapphire. Oh accuracy. Yes. Slow running watches are a pain. You pay what you pay and move on. That doesn’t bother me. A manufacturing defect discovered after purchase I haven’t experienced yet. ID your list is spot on.
Appreciate your Saturday video fix. Always part of my day I make 'time' for. Im possibility in the minority here, by having no real issues with my collection - Globemaster, bb58, ti big eye, prx 80, khaki field... If splitting hairs, I would say the loom isn't great on the big eye, but the reviews prior to buying said as much. Another interesting video with lots to discuss and ponder over. I'll look forward to next Saturday.
Phew, what a great set of pieces! Gotta say, the Globemaster is just… and the BigEye one of the best auto chrono’s for the money today… it’s something so good when you feel like you’ve “bought right” and have a handful that manage to do so much. Thank you for sharing this Mark (I hope this weekends fix was decent 😉🥃)
@ID-Guy appreciate the reply sir. I did buy the big eye, however, partly on your reviews. Like it or not, I use you as a benchmark on watches, especially if I'm considering buying one. You are honest with the pros and cons of each piece you review. It's reassuring. Take care.
I've never really understood why most watches lose time instead of gaining it. It's far more convenient to reset a watch that's gained time than one that's lost it, but watches that gain time are in a minority.
2023 - Two tone Santos, that one broke my heart it’s just so delicate. I find myself babying the bezel continuously eroding my enjoyment. No regrets with any of my Omegas or Tudors, perhaps it’s the price point at retail. I should have bought the green dial (new) or pre-owned two tone vs brand new. Just too expensive for what I’m getting from it.
When sizing a bracelet that has uses screws, it is always the one screw that you NEED to remove, is the one screw that seems to be welded tight. Also disappointed in my own failing eyesight. Great video as always.
On the money Ray 😉 It's a 765 AVI I found (and bought) right around New Year. It's just... oh, it's too good. Of course I'm dying to get a lengthy review together for it 🥃
Looking forward to your review especially your thoughts on how the winding feels. I've not touched a B09 but I have handled a B01 and it felt very stiff. Nothing like the silky feel of an Omega 3861. Does the new acquisition make you completely forget the Big Eye?
@@raysutton378 I'd say the wind of the B09 is not as "crunchy" as others I've experienced in the past, I think back to my Smiths W10's, miss them dearly 😆 but it is very smooth. Takes about 65+ full winds to get it to its maximum and man... that 70Hr PR is a killer. After getting the 765 with features like the slimmer case, GMT bezel, I can honestly say it feels like a more complete watch in every respect. I do miss the Sapphire crystal and the "oddness" of the BigEye's details BUT it feels like that perfect combination of the W10 and BigEye is one package 🥃
I think I would seek meditation 😅 if I had all those hang ups 😊I try not to worry about most of those points but definitely understand a few of them 👍👍👍👍👍👍 always a good listen 🎉
My vintage Longines. Great design, and very thin. Tough to find parts, meaning it spent a year at a watchmaker, before I was able to enjoy it. Didn’t take long to realize that tall with large wrists doesn’t work that well with a small watch. So, maybe I take it out to wear only a few days each year.
Here’s a couple more: higher than expected servicing costs really sours the ownership experience. And poor winding action (I’m looking at you Vostok). And when your purchase timing is off, eg when they issue an update of your watch that has the features or corrections you had wanted.
#4 is what I have been going through with my Pro in the last few months. I just don't wear it as much anymore because it is thick and heavy, unnecessarily so. my IWC Pilot's Chronograph 41 is 14.5mm thick and the Pro as we know is 14.6mm. but the IWC is just a well proportioned hockey puck and isn't as heavy on the leather strap or rubber strap. The Pro has the case, then the bezel, then the domed glass, and it just becomes top heavy. The goal is to sell the Pro and my Tank Must to fund the Explorer 36. The Pro always loses time with me too, it's always slow and never fast.
He said it all perfectly with the right choice of words. Nothing to add more aside, don't buy expensive watches and all these buying remorses tend to not count as much while you continue to enjoy watch collecting. I stay at the 500 usd and under mark.
Size, thickness, weight, case shape, band type are factors for me...leading to comfort. A watch that "fits like a glove" seems to mold to and become part of your wrist. Its a great feeling when a watch fits right.
Spot on as always! Yeah accuracy is always a disappointment for me! Ever since I got my Speedy, everything else pales in comparison. I’m blessed that I was not disappointed when I got my Speedy after pining for 20 years! But I think it’s because I made it more than just a watch for me. I assigned it sentimental value since it was a military retirement gift from my family. But now every other watch I buy doesn’t live up to how much I love my Speedy. Yet, I’m still drawn to many other watches and still want to enjoy them for what they are, even as imperfect as they are. Then I move them on and try another, all the while still enjoying my hero piece, the Speedy! Cheers!
Dear Mr IDGuy, hope you’re well mate. As always you hit the nail on the head. All relevant points mate. I personally don’t think so hard about it. If I make a poor decision I give the shoulders a really good shrug and move on…😅 ❤ you’re a good one mate. All the best.
The Blackbay Pro still breaks my heart, as to me its one of the best looking watches in the market and my first Tudor I ever bought. Sadly the thickness over time was just undeniable for day to day use, ironically the worst desk diver I ever had.
Man, I feel your pain. Their GMT cases are too much (looks like they’re tightening them up with the newer generations) but we tell ourselves “it’s fine, I’ll make it work” - years later you come to that realisation that it’s something that can’t be avoided 🥃
The worst and best 'revelation' you get after buying that dream, expensive watch is that you finally understand... It's just a watch. You hyped yourself about the excitement you'll feel, the emotions it will cause and then you have on the wrist and you're like... Oh. Ok. So it's just a watch. It doesn't elevate me as I thought it would... Hmm..... HHMMMMMM BUT! It's also a good thing because it helps you approach the hobby in more reasonable way. No fomo, enjoying what you have, playing with styles etc
Thank you. Wonderful video. I am seeking that GADA watch for myself after going through a 25 year journey. I am currently narrowing it down to the Rolex Datejust 41 ( SS / fluted / jubilee/ blue / stick ) or Rolex Yacht-master 40 ( undecided on blue or rhodeseum ). Your thoughts please. Thank you.
Phew, tough choice. If it was me and given those two options (having experienced both) The Yachtmaster 40 is just gorgeous... I'd probably consider adding the 37mm just for that "old school" novelty like the models from the early 2000's. Dig a more "trim" size. But man, the Rhodium dial with light blue accents? Loved that watch. It's a bit shinier than you'd think (probably why most don't go after them) but as a dressy diver with a solid gold bezel? It does it all extremely well 🔥
Great content with coffee this morning! I couldn’t agree more with your design element comment. I would love to purchase the latest IWC Mark XX but won’t because it doesn’t have the original and very distinctive Mark 11 hands. I sold my previous gen. Submariner because the lugs were too chunky and the case too square in appearance. For me, it’s all in the design details. Cheers ☕️
Speaking my language Scott... I'd pick up the Mark XX in a heartbeat if it had the original handset and a hook "7". No idea why the brand doesn't return with those details (besides using them on their Limited Editions) - I think it's good to get hung up on the details because when it finally all comes together? Every day is a breath of fresh air with the watch on 😉
I've had the GS SBGN003 for a few years now, and the thing that disappointed me was that gradually I just found myself only wearing it and not the rest of my collection lol. Everything is about as perfect as I think I want a watch to be, but I have other watches I want to wear to 😭
Definitely. Price is the big one. Also its more about, with that amount of money, what else could you have gotten. You might often hear "you paid that much for it? You could have gotten a blank instead etc"
Wanted the modern Seamaster 300M in black ceramic to go with my ‘93 in blue and my ‘01 in white with an aluminum bezel. Less elegant wear than those two, even though it’s more jewel like. And the date at 6 execution feels like an afterthought. Be better without a date window at all.
Many things you described really goes close why i didn't bond with the Seiko SRPE45J1, the size is great, 38.8mm, not too thick, the dial is really beautiful and glimmers with green in the right light, it's really beautiful but i used it for like 2 months and rarely after that, and the end of the day is a very simple watch, basically a Seiko 5 with a fancy dial and i didn't even know why bother to put an exhibition caseback on a 4R35, it's just a simple machine finished movement, at the end of the day it is a boring watch. Meanwhile i bought a modern Tag Heuer Formula 1and it basically lives rent free in my wrist 24/7.
Funny how it works, right? When you finally get “that” watch, somehow everything else disappears and wearing it is like a breath of fresh air. Well said brother and thank you for sharing! 🥃
All of this is so true. On the flip side, I had an opportunity to by a blue BB58 and did so on almost a whim. As other watches showed up it kind of got shoved aside. But because that BB58 has such fantastic lume, I've been wearing to bed every night for a few years now. Well, one day I was in too much of a hurry to swap it for one of my other "daytime" watches. Well, through out that day, I began to see more beauty in that piece than I ever noticed. So, I reintroduced the BB58 into my rotation. It's like have a platonic girlfriend who has always been there as you go through various serious relationships with what appear to be more beautiful women only to realize the real gem is that platonic one. If you're lucky, she's still in your life when occurs to you that SHE is the ONE
I regret my 1st mechanical watch purchase, a Seiko SRPE03 King Turtle. The King Turtle was widely covered by TH-camrs at the time. I should have listened to myself and purchased the Hamilton KFA 38. I bought many more field watches later and much prefer Hamilton khaki field range. The King Turtle is my only dive watch and rarely wear it. I told myself, at least I have a watch to wear during the typhoon season with its water resistance. LOL... I also own a Seiko 5 Sports field SRPG27K1 and Seiko SNK381K1. Both watches combined cost less than my King Turtle that I purchased on sale from the AD. It reminds me of one more regret, I discovered the grey market after buying the King Turtle.
They cheaped out on the bracelet is the most common. Not enough links, not enough adjustment, poor clasp etc. Seiko has a special place in hell for quality control.
What is the No.1 thing that's made you Dislike a watch you've owned?
As days go by, its case thickness for me. Another small nitpick is probably heavy blue AR coating on watch crystals ;)
male endlinks with overhang are a huge deal breaker for me.
Case thickness is definitely an issue for me, I notice it a lot more with the slab sides on Tudors.
@@HRM.H Oof, I think about the 1861 Speedmaster with that older bracelet, also some Rolex pieces in the past when they transitioned over to SELs. Great point. Severe overhang makes the fit seem so awkward 🥃
@@rowluxillusion5235 Man, it bugs me when the proportions are spot-on but it wears like a hockey puck on the wrist. Chrono's today (with modular movements) are huge culprits today. Think this issue has made me sell at least 3 pieces in the past 🥃
I would agree with buying into the hype thing. Two example from my journey would be the Moonswatch and the Citizen Tsuyosa. Not bad watches at all but they do not get a lot of wear time. Now I know that I like a decent level of finishing and quality. One of the most comfortable watches I have is the Oris Aquid 41.5. Just the right fit and finish for the value.
My only regret is getting into watches altogether. I was happy with my Seiko for 11 years, and then I discovered Watchfinder & Co, goddamnit.
EDIT: I should add, since moving to Taiwan 2 months ago, I brought my Seiko Speedtimer and Casio W86 with me, but I've worn my Citizen Promaster for all but one day, so I suppose I have a favourite watch atm here in Taiwan.
And now we’re junkies and need to be institutionalised… I feel you 🥃
Me also I had a mid size citizen eco-drive for years and loved it so happy and it went with everything felt better than now !!!
I think Jory over at the Time Teller channel has a hat for you (“Don’t start watch collecting.”) 😂
It's entirely possible to be interested in watches without buying them.
I have an issue with new hobbies, I’m like a bull at a gate.
Get out of my way…😅
This really hit home. One, I bought a used Submariner and noticed one lug had a scratch across the top. Got it polished, then realized the lug was no longer as crisp on the edges anymore. Second instance, got an IWC Portuguese Chrono after hyping it up in my mind for months. First reaction upon receiving, 'huh, that's it?'.
IWC is just a yawnfest to me. 😅
7:55 on the flipside as you show the panning shot of the reverso…clever
I’m glad someone picked it up 😉 AND “just leaves you flat” a few seconds after when the top of the movement is shown. Always enjoy adding lil easter eggs into clips when the opportunity presents 🥃
This is exactly why I always suggest to try the watch you want in real life, because numbers alone won't tell you how it will fit.
Years back, I was dead set on buying Rado Capt Cook green dial, because man, that color is beautiful, and numbers suggested that I could wear it, but alas, it was far too big for my wrist. Same thing with gen 2 PO, I really wanted all white one, and I yearned for it, but when I tried it on, it was far too huge, too thick to wear it comfortably.
On the other hand, my latest purchase, Dynamic III Marui limited, on paper, it's too small at 36 (some say 36.5), but I really wanted one, so I went a long way to try it on, and surprise, it fits far better than I expected.
So my advice is, just as with guitars, try it on first before buying. Never buy a watch (esp expensive ones) sight unseen. AND! NEVER EVER do impulse purchases. Wait 6 months. look at that watch again, and if you still want it, then wait 6 more months. and by then if you still want it, then it's time for you to try it on.
I spent 8 years looking for the right watch before purchasing and I have no regrets. To find a watch that really sparked joy I spent more than I originally intended but the key for me was learning what I really like: applied Arabic numerals, good lume, interesting hands, script writing on the dial and enough water resistance to never need to remove it. My advice is take your time and don’t compromise.
Which watch is it?...
I fully agree to take your time and don’t compromise.
@@FT-ho6cb Glausutte Original SeaQ Panorama Date, black dial on a bracelet. I bought it at a discount at an AD but it still cost almost twice what my original budget was. I just couldn’t find a watch that worked for me both aesthetically and technically. In addition to what I previously mentioned it has a graceful case that hides its thickness and a beautifully decorated movement with a 100-hour power reserve. When I started my search this watch wasn’t on the market. My wife wasn’t happy with the cost but like anything else it depends on how much you use it. I never take it off. It had dive watch water resistance so I even do the dishes with it. Two years in the case has no scratches and the bracelet shows only slight wear. My grandfather was a poor immigrant and I have his mass-produced Elgin pocket watch. It still works. I have my father’s Hamilton wristwatch. Still works. One day my grandson will have my watch.
I do think that the explosion of you tube videos is a mixed blessing in that it makes us want to buy then sell more watches than we used to in the past
The opposite can also be annoying: the free or cheap watch that you find yourself enjoying more than half of your expensive, horologicaly significant pieces. It makes you question everything - is it all just a hopeless pursuit?
YES! I own about a dozen mid-tier watches, yet, a Casio G-Shock, a quartz Casio Duro, and a no name solar watch get 90% of my wrist time. Very 'freeing' not having to worry about scratching them, bumping them against a doorway, etc.
@@swampThaang so true
Excellent point. I’m currently wearing an Octopus Pelagos 39 homage that I like far better than the actual Tudor watch. The Octopus was $200, yet hits me better than when I’ve tried on the P39.
@@richardwarren2024 youve gone a bit too far mate
@@drkesrf logically, I completely agree with you. Naturally, the quality of any Tudor far, far exceeds the $200 homage in every way.
The bottom line is not to be afraid of making mistakes or blaming oneself for having been too emotional or naive or swayed by (clever) marketing. Making mistakes means learning, and there are no shortcuts. I keep a ‘watch journal’ to help me stay (fairly) rational about the watches I desire. Great video, thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I honestly could not articulate the "dislikes" more soundly than you did. The point is to take a breath, evaluate the desire one has in a watch, and ask yourself if this is truly the watch. There is nothing worse than going all in a particular watch, only to discover something more appealing than the one you just put all your stock in. It can be a slippery slope, for sure.
The thickness factor is huge tbh , I love the SLA017 to bits , the iconic 62mas case , 8L35 movement, Zaratsu polishing, grey anthracite dial , but the 14mm thickness is just depressing to see 😔
As always another great video.
Many years ago, while in the Army, I stumbled on G-Shock. I really didn't know much about them, but I thought I would try one out. I have never not had one since :) Under promised...over delivered.
Yes size matters, too big and too heavy will rear it's ugly head, and before you know it, traded or forgotten.
I have come to peace with accuracy. On the weekends I bring all my watches to my desk, with a cup of coffee, some eggs and set them.
For the design flaws, I'm a work in progress. I have done some lite modding, which again i'm a work in progress ;)
I have come to terms that there is no perfect watch, that there is going to be something that will make me say "what if..."
So I embrace the watches I have, and just try to make as many memories as I can.
Stopped buying Seiko altogether because of 2 consistent flaws that seem to be some cultural 'don't be to perfect' ethos: 7 o'clock marker misplaced, and movement loses time in most or all positions. After 8 Seikos I gave up.
Sorry to hear that . . . the Seiko Kinetic Sports 200 diver I bought in 1996 (and which I wear every day pretty much) keeps time to within a second or two a month.
My biggest regret has been buying watches that ended up being too heavy on the wrist so I couldn't wear them for long periods of time without experiencing pain or discomfort. Second has been one you mentioned about the fit of the braclet-nothing worse then being between sizes and not having a micro adjustment to correct for it
I am genuinely jealous of how articulate you are. What a wonderful job you do at explaining these silly conundrums we watch-loons find ourselves in! 😅
Size definitely matters. I convinced myself I wanted the 36 DJ because it was the most classic and traditional size. I’m 6’3 225 and it always looked small on me. Breaking point was when my girlfriend said something. Two years of ownership and only a handful of wears later I moved on from it.
I think power reserve disappointment is one also. They never seem to last the quoted hours
San Martin.
Thanks for the Saturday upload! Morning beverage and breakfast with your content is my Saturday vibes. Cheers
Always try to stimulate our brains on a Saturday 😆 Thank you Peter! I hope something from this clip has an impact ☕️
I think you've nailed them all. Because as you were speaking I mentally went through my disappointments and said to myself, 'yes, yes!' 😄
I am not really a watch collector, but I do have a number of them, not very expensive. I look at them and enjoy the right things about them and don’t put too much attention on what I feel could be better. However, I can’t abide size issues, too small too big, and discomfort and ill fitting.
Oh yes, definitely has happened to me. I had a vintage Datejust that I wanted so badly to love but at 36mm it was just comically small on my wrist. I tried to get past it but simply couldn’t. And I’ve bought a watch because of its beautiful dial, only to realize later that the legibility is bad, despite the pretty dial. 😢
Your last point really sums up my experience, just rely on your own experience and not be so bothered by a spec sheet or some expert opinion. This was a great topic for discussion and reflection. 🥃
Definitely something we learn after a few years experiencing watches Alvin, absolutely. The paperwork is one thing but as a wearer everything changes. Have a superb weekend sir! 🥃
For me it was a Tudor BB 41. The one with a smooth bezel. I just never connected to it. More so I bought it as a reward for moving jobs and I connected to that employer. That employer gave me the most stressful 3 years of my life. I hated my time there. While I had actual issues with the watch but it could have been perfect and I would have sold it anyway.
I used the money to buy a silver dial Monta Noble when it launched. On paper the Monta is not in the same ballpark as the Tudor but I truly love wearing the Monta. It could honestly be my one watch...or maybe it's because it represents freedom from a nightmare job. Regardless it is one of my few forever watches.
As always, some great insights. Watch enjoyment on the wrist has to be the number one goal.
A brilliant and eloquent overview. As most of few watches I own are of sentimental value, it is that factor that dominates how I feel about them to the exclusion of any negatives. That said, a new Tissot Seastar Chronograph which my girlfriend bought me as a landmark birthday present irks me as the the centre second hand doesn't align 100% with the 12 o'clock marker . . . and that alone means it doesn't get much wrist time. The subtext moral here is always buy your own watches!
Great topic, you the OG. These factors amount to so much during the watch collecting journey. Thanks for sharing your insights.
I've noticed that I get tired of vintage looks. I think they look cool, but I get tired of the look way too quickly and end up not wearing it, and that's bad if I have lot of money tied up in the watch. For this reason I've pretty much given up on luxury watches and now stick with simple everyday affordable watches. I would be perfectly fine if the Seiko SRPE51 "dress KX" and the G-shock dw-6900 are the only two watches I have. Good topic as always, Cheers.
I bought my titanium seamaster 300m NTTD with its brown dial and beautiful aesthetic, and was smitten. And then low light occurred. Such as sitting in the lounge. And I couldn’t read the time. 6 months later, sold.
Great vid. It's a subject that most of us want to pretend isn't an issue, but not getting-on with a watch we loved in principle, can be a bitter pill, as you say.
I can summarise what ive learnt during my personal watch collecting journey, very succinctly and conversely to your own experience, based on the vid (having spent not an insignificant sum on learning this lesson!):
Buy the seemingly "boring" looking watches, and buy the small version.
The more "boring" the watch, the more versatile.
I've bought so many watches that looked so interesting/fun/different/quirky/avant-garde and so on. They look great in the cabinet, in marketing and in your mind...but when it comes to wearing them, you realise it suits almost nothing you wear.
I convinced myself the current Seamaster was my ideal watch, I gave it a good run (4 years) but ultimately it was too cumbersome.
Bracelet felt too chunky and uncomfortable, case just that fraction too big...I traded it in for a Pelagos 39mm and it fits like a glove.
The best what can happen to a watch enthousiast is that you discover your style in watches. Once that has happened it is not likely your future watch-buys will turn into a disappointment. Great topic my friend!
The only watches I've ever regretted buying are cheaper models...usually scumb to them when I really prefer a more costly watch but cheap out and buy the lesser watch...then still desire the more expensive model.
You and me both. And then after going up a tier, do you look a the cheaper model the same way again? Not really. It's odd 😆
@@ID-GuyIs the more expensive watch actually better or are you fooling yourself into believing it's better because you can't admit it was an expensive mistake?
I have regrets. But after several years, I learned that a) I don't need to follow trends, b) I don't need to spend huge money to enjoy this and c) I should just buy what I like. For me. Not for anyone else.
I've been disappointed by many luxury watches, like how my Speedy wore on wrist. But learned to move on and enjoy watches I actually like. For me ' 35-38mm field style.
Loving my Smiths Navigator prs-48 man... on a VWC grey nato.. just wonderful
How does the speedy wear?
@xpusostomos it looks beautiful. It's not too heavy especially on straps. But to me, the case size and thickness are a little large. I prefer smaller watches. But you'll be fine. Just try one on
@@Valera_Scotland sounds too small, I'll go back to my 48mm Steinhardt chronograph
I dislike losing my watches. There’s one I’ve been looking for for a year now and it’s driving me crazy.
‘On the flip side’ visual pun! Very good sir!
I'm glad you noticed that sneaky one 😉🥃
Definitely noticed that with the JLC Reverso as you said flip side 😅
I believe it was Louis Breguet that said the best way to lose interest in a watch is by buying one.
Great quote, if true.
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant 🥃
...and still a great quote, whoever said it.
My biggest regret is starting to collect multiple watches instead of getting one and done that I created memories with. Ending up in not being able to sell the ones that I have fond memories with 😂
Paying too much and buying in bulk are the ones that hurt the most.
Great video bro 👍🏽
You want to sell the ones you have fond memories with? 🤦♂️
@@xpusostomos I don't want to sell them, but when the collection starts to be more than 18 watches, and you have memories with all of them, it becomes impossible
Very good video. For me it was diameter. I bought the meteorite dial Bulova Lunar Pilot thinking it would fit my 160mm wrist. It felt like I was wearing a dinner plate on the wrist.
Diameter bugs me too these days. Just a simple dial colour and the watch can look way bigger or smaller too… it’s always best to go a bit under your parameters (like aiming for a 39mm) and reaping the rewards, at least I’ve learnt 🥃
What a GREAT video. After about 100 watches in my life (lots as a kid and younger adult before I bought a ‘serious’ watch) and 50 ish ‘serious’ ones in the last decade, I am very confident in saying everything you said is spot on…BUT only for people like you (or me?) who have a super-keen and precise eye for the minutiae of design. I don’t think everyone has that and I wish I was one of those people 🙂
It’s a game, trying to find the ones which are near ‘perfect’. I talk myself into watches, and very quickly out of them again.
Here’s my collection of what I’ve owned and still own. I’ve never owned more than 4 larger ones at a time and each one has been ‘perfect’ for sometimes days, sometimes years…but almost all have been moved on for the same reasons you mention.
── 29 Larger purchases ──
2014 Omega Black Seamaster 300 2254.50
2014 Omega Blue Quartz Seamaster
2015 Omega Blue Automatic Seamaster 2220.80
2015 Omega Small Planet Ocean on rubber
2016 Omega Large Planet Ocean on rubber
2016 Omega Black Seamaster ceramic
2016 Omega Blue Aqua Terra
2016 Omega Speedmaster sapphire sandwich
2016 Rolex Explorer 39mm gen 1
2016 Rolex Explorer 39mm gen 2
2017 Rolex Submariner Hulk 116610LV
2018 Rolex Submariner 114060LN
2019 Tudor Black Bay 58
2020 Tudor Black Bay GMT
2020 Grand Seiko Heritage Blue Quartz
2021 Rolex Oyster Perpetual 369 blue
2021 Rolex Submariner 124060
2021 JLC Reverso Tribute Duoface
2021 Rolex Yachtmaster 37mm
2021 Tudor Oyster Prince Date from 1984
2022 Rolex Submariner 14060m
2022 Rolex Explorer 114270 36mm
2022 Rolex Datejust 16234 36mm
2022 Rolex Datejust 16200 36mm white
2023 Tudor Black Bay 54 37mm
2023 Rolex Datejust 16200 36mm black
2023 Omega Aqua Terra Quartz 2518.50 - OWN
2023 Rolex Datejust 126200 - OWN
2024 Omega 2605 from 1952 - OWN
─ 16 Smaller purchases ─
Not in order:
Seiko Sarb033
Seiko SNZF
Davosa Ternos
Doxa Sub
Nezumi Tonnare
Maurice Lacroix Aikon
Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical
Casio Gshock Casioak
Seiko 5 SRPE57K1
Pulsar Diver
Furlan Marri Laccato Nero
Clemence Diver
Certina DS Action Diver 38
Citizen pilots
Citizen eco drive world timer
Traska Summiteer - OWN
What an excellent series of pieces! Holy Smokes! There comes a point when you think "maybe I'm overthinking just a hair too much with some of the pieces I decide to cull" And you'e right, this level of pedantry is only for us maniacs 😆 Thank you for sharing Al! 🥃
I am pleased to say that I actually had the opposite experience with the Oris Chronoris Movember Edition. A few years ago I was looking for a supercompressor style watch. It was before the type became popular so I had limited choices. I found the Oris on eBay. It seemed a bit too quirky but the price was really good so I decided to take a chance. Over time it has become one of my favorite watches. I put it on a Marine Nationale strap. The cushion case is the perfect size and very comfortable to wear. The dial design is interesting and functional, and the color combination is very pleasing. I wish all of my acquisitions worked out so well.
All is very true. There are watches that you fall out of love for and just don’t have the same eye for anymore. I own a Marathon CSAR that I purchased from a great fella out in Las Vegas. This is a watch that I absolutely fell in love with the moment I saw it on Watch You Seek forums and still love the darn thing today. I got an amazing deal on it and it never ceases to put a smile on my face every time I strap it to my wrist. It’s a TANK yes but it fits perfectly on my wrist and looks bad ass in the wild. Cheers!
Great video! Having a well-adjustable bracelet is something super important to me, I would be reluctant to buy a newly released watch without at least micro-adjustment and half links, if not easy-adjustment.
Always great content!
Thank you for talking about this subject. For me my most disappointing aspect on a watch is the proportions (dial, hands, indexes ratio).
#5 (Bracelet) is a big consideration for me. How well a watch fits is of utmost importance! There are so many factors that go into it and I feel like a lot of companies treat bracelets as an afterthought to the watch head itself. If a watch is gorgeous but I can’t get a comfortable fit, I’m not going to wear it.
Imagine a brand like Omega that has delivered the Speedmaster for 30+ years with the worst possible bracelet
I guess I'm fortunate not to have many real buying regrets. The pieces I have which don't get a lot of wrist time are my cheaper ones. I have a Seiko I thought I would love, but don't. Luckily my son loves wearing it. The three expensives watches I own all get a lot of wrist time. Maybe I'm just old enough to know what I like. I love wearing watches and do so for my own enjoyment. It's nice though when a fellow enthusiast says, "hey, nice ..!"
Most recently it is the leather strap on a watch I have wanted, and bought, for years. IWC 7-Day, silver/blue, and switched it to a factory tan strap. Simply too stiff. I keep telling myself to give it time and not to look for some other strap. The factory one curves around the case, etc. I am trying to "work it" a bit with my hands, but still seems too stiff. I love the watch and with its size the strap being that stiff probably keeps it set on my wrist...so I re-assure myself. Compared to all my others, this one is bothering me.
On the flip side. I fell in love with a Zenith Chronomaster Original black dial (tri-color subs) and LOVE it. Far exceeded my expectations. I worried about the case size. I was measuring everything in the collection to try to prepare myself if it was right. When it did arrive it wears perfectly.
Love your videos and the great topic on this one!
Sometimes, you buy a watch but it takes another year to find that strap that makes it work.
Excellent point made as a reply to this, another strap from another brand usually always does it. My Zenith now lives on a Spanish leather from WatchGecko, my Seiko lives on an Omega Nato, same with my FXD 😆 There's nothing cooler than finding THE combo that works for your watch. And man, don't get me started with Zenith. Had mine for just over a year and I'm enjoying it more now than I did then. Freaking superb brand through and through! 🥃
Thank you for your feedback. I will indeed look into the 37 Yachtmaster. Even though I have a 71/4 wrist, I wish for the watch not only to be lighter and smaller in dimensions but also a big under the radar. Have no problem with 36-38mm
One of the things I dislike is not being able to wear it comfortably without constantly looking over my shoulders scanning for potential robbery.
It’s crazy on point with the whole hype and expectations. My last purchase wasn’t something i planned but when i got it. I was blown away more than the ones I’ve been hyping and lusting over. The watch is the Hanhart 417es 39mm black dial. It’s been on my wrist nonstop since. So yes sometimes expectations and hype actually kills it faster than being pleasantly surprised.
Interesting perspective. I suspect you’re right on all counts. I’ve tried to temper any issues with a watch by making myself wait at least 1 year from the date that I first “fell in love” with it until I allow myself to buy it. That tempers a lot of issues. I’ve never sold a watch - I still wear each one I’ve bought, just some get less wrist time than others. But I accept that - it’s ok. I bought each one because it had feature(s) that I loved, and frankly that hasn’t gone away. So I love some less than I thought I would, but they all still warrant wrist time and I enjoy each one when wearing it. Crazy hobby, if that’s what we call it.
No or lack of micro adjustment is so disappointing. It's such an easy fix but the big guys don't seem to be able to do it well or at all.
Nowadays it seems poor that so many brands don’t include it on all of their pieces. Well said 🥃
Really interesting points. I am very happy with my Black Bay 54 and when I do get bored or think I want a change - I ride it out. Luckily I've always come back to being happy again. Then again I do like being fairly minimal and I guess this is the trade-off. Excellent content sir!
Great video and agree with your points. The watches you are showing during the vid are drop dead gorgeous. Thank you, again! Paul
No quick set date on the blnr gmt2....love the watch, but every time I put it on after wearing something else I know i have to leave "some time" to set it. Especially since the crown turn moves the handset a small amount compared to for instance a SPB143.
Wonderful video and thoughts!
The boredom one is exactly what fear the most when looking at a BB58 in the shop window. I fear that I’d buy that and experience the boredom later because it’s almost too perfect in a way.
Great video!
For me personally, it is the size (diameter) of a watch, but also the lug-to-lug measurement.
I was wearing watches way too big for my relatively small wrists (17 cm).
I started my collecting journey with a Seiko SARB033, which has a 38 mm diameter.
After that, it went up to watches with 42-43 mm and now back down to 34-38 mm.
Over the years, I have noticed that I don’t really enjoy wearing watches on leather straps.
I bought a Minerva Pythagore with the calibre 48 in January of this year.
It has been a watch I wanted for years!
But now I rarely wear it because of the leather strap and overall elegant appearance, which doesn’t fit with my daily clothing.
My biggest ever watch disappointment was the Oris Divers 65 Cotton Candy. I love the way that watch wears and how it looks, but I only owned it for a month or so and had to sell it because I hated a few things about it:
1. It turned my wrist really green.
2. You could smell it from six feet away (it smelled like pennies - like really strongly).
3. I like how it looks when it's new and not when it starts to patina.
I was gutted, because I absolutely love the look of it and 38mm is the perfect size for me.
When it comes to fine imitation watches, amzwatch delivers. I've bought from them several times, and I've never been let down.
All exceptional points... especially when chasing grails.
Some of these points could be videos in themselves (think the grail journey might be a goodie in the future) 😉🥃
Mostly size after wearing gave me a certain disappointment. The good thing with watches is you can sell them quite easy and had your time with them. Good video
The only disappointment I can think of (after just waking up) is with my actual favourite watch in my collection, my Reverie Diver in red with a 12 hour bezel. Because of its design I can't get NATO straps for it. Which would make it more comfortable in summer weather. I would love it if you'd take a look at that model in the future as I know some are still available.
Absolutely brilliant! I agree with all of these.
While the watch images are supposed to be random, I notice the Black Bay 58 925 showing up way more than others. Am I reading too much into that?
Great eye, I included the 925 all over the place to try and link it up with the video thumbnail. Some kind of "through-line" watch for the video, y'know. I'm definitely not knocking it (the BB58 is always an easy target) 😆 I thought it would be cool to see it present here and there in places 🥃
@@ID-Guy I purchased the 925 when it came out and have never regretted it. I want the new 54 but I can’t part with the 925. One of the few watches I can honestly say I have no regrets about buying. Love your videos. Look forward to them more than any others.
I've gone through so many watches, thanks to where I live having an amazing second hand watch market, but owning so many so quickly means that I have definitely underappreciated many. Too much, too soon is a problem!
I'm wearing a Mido Multifort 38mm and really like it but the butterfly bracelet forces me to wear it a bit too loose.
I’m pretty happy with all my watches - still haven’t sold 1. The only (minor) annoyance is power reserve not living up to the specs.
San Martin.
How about - “again remembering I don’t really like bracelets as a wearing experience” - they look so good but are heavy and scratch up on the underside. But I’ll never learn.
100% this
The first thing I will dislike is if the watch is uncomfortable to wear. Does the watch have a hot spot on your wrist or does it spread the contact patch flatly across the wrist? In this context I think I prefer steel case backs over sapphire. Oh accuracy. Yes. Slow running watches are a pain. You pay what you pay and move on. That doesn’t bother me. A manufacturing defect discovered after purchase I haven’t experienced yet. ID your list is spot on.
Appreciate your Saturday video fix. Always part of my day I make 'time' for.
Im possibility in the minority here, by having no real issues with my collection - Globemaster, bb58, ti big eye, prx 80, khaki field...
If splitting hairs, I would say the loom isn't great on the big eye, but the reviews prior to buying said as much.
Another interesting video with lots to discuss and ponder over. I'll look forward to next Saturday.
Phew, what a great set of pieces! Gotta say, the Globemaster is just… and the BigEye one of the best auto chrono’s for the money today… it’s something so good when you feel like you’ve “bought right” and have a handful that manage to do so much. Thank you for sharing this Mark (I hope this weekends fix was decent 😉🥃)
@ID-Guy appreciate the reply sir. I did buy the big eye, however, partly on your reviews. Like it or not, I use you as a benchmark on watches, especially if I'm considering buying one. You are honest with the pros and cons of each piece you review. It's reassuring.
Take care.
I've never really understood why most watches lose time instead of gaining it. It's far more convenient to reset a watch that's gained time than one that's lost it, but watches that gain time are in a minority.
2023 - Two tone Santos, that one broke my heart it’s just so delicate. I find myself babying the bezel continuously eroding my enjoyment. No regrets with any of my Omegas or Tudors, perhaps it’s the price point at retail. I should have bought the green dial (new) or pre-owned two tone vs brand new. Just too expensive for what I’m getting from it.
When sizing a bracelet that has uses screws, it is always the one screw that you NEED to remove, is the one screw that seems to be welded tight. Also disappointed in my own failing eyesight. Great video as always.
Great conversation and too true!
My pleasure to share Harrison! Thank you brother 🥃
Is that a Breitling Classic AVI P-51 I see on your wrist? Or perhaps the Ref 765?
On the money Ray 😉 It's a 765 AVI I found (and bought) right around New Year. It's just... oh, it's too good. Of course I'm dying to get a lengthy review together for it 🥃
Looking forward to your review especially your thoughts on how the winding feels. I've not touched a B09 but I have handled a B01 and it felt very stiff. Nothing like the silky feel of an Omega 3861. Does the new acquisition make you completely forget the Big Eye?
@@raysutton378 I'd say the wind of the B09 is not as "crunchy" as others I've experienced in the past, I think back to my Smiths W10's, miss them dearly 😆 but it is very smooth. Takes about 65+ full winds to get it to its maximum and man... that 70Hr PR is a killer. After getting the 765 with features like the slimmer case, GMT bezel, I can honestly say it feels like a more complete watch in every respect. I do miss the Sapphire crystal and the "oddness" of the BigEye's details BUT it feels like that perfect combination of the W10 and BigEye is one package 🥃
It's a beauty, congratulations 🎉
I think I would seek meditation 😅 if I had all those hang ups 😊I try not to worry about most of those points but definitely understand a few of them 👍👍👍👍👍👍 always a good listen 🎉
Nice video topic and execution. Also, ID Guns are in full effect in this one
Your video is spot on👍
I've gone through every single pitfall you described in the video. My love for watches however means I'll be making more of the same mistakes 😅
Aaand at what point do we need to be institutionalised? Watch obsessions 😆 Love it.
I agree. It’s really hard to know how a watch will “sit” with you until you’ve had it for a while. Time tells, doesn’t it!
My vintage Longines. Great design, and very thin. Tough to find parts, meaning it spent a year at a watchmaker, before I was able to enjoy it. Didn’t take long to realize that tall with large wrists doesn’t work that well with a small watch. So, maybe I take it out to wear only a few days each year.
Here’s a couple more: higher than expected servicing costs really sours the ownership experience. And poor winding action (I’m looking at you Vostok). And when your purchase timing is off, eg when they issue an update of your watch that has the features or corrections you had wanted.
#4 is what I have been going through with my Pro in the last few months. I just don't wear it as much anymore because it is thick and heavy, unnecessarily so. my IWC Pilot's Chronograph 41 is 14.5mm thick and the Pro as we know is 14.6mm. but the IWC is just a well proportioned hockey puck and isn't as heavy on the leather strap or rubber strap. The Pro has the case, then the bezel, then the domed glass, and it just becomes top heavy. The goal is to sell the Pro and my Tank Must to fund the Explorer 36. The Pro always loses time with me too, it's always slow and never fast.
He said it all perfectly with the right choice of words. Nothing to add more aside, don't buy expensive watches and all these buying remorses tend to not count as much while you continue to enjoy watch collecting. I stay at the 500 usd and under mark.
Size, thickness, weight, case shape, band type are factors for me...leading to comfort. A watch that "fits like a glove" seems to mold to and become part of your wrist. Its a great feeling when a watch fits right.
Spot on as always! Yeah accuracy is always a disappointment for me! Ever since I got my Speedy, everything else pales in comparison. I’m blessed that I was not disappointed when I got my Speedy after pining for 20 years! But I think it’s because I made it more than just a watch for me. I assigned it sentimental value since it was a military retirement gift from my family. But now every other watch I buy doesn’t live up to how much I love my Speedy. Yet, I’m still drawn to many other watches and still want to enjoy them for what they are, even as imperfect as they are. Then I move them on and try another, all the while still enjoying my hero piece, the Speedy! Cheers!
Dear Mr IDGuy, hope you’re well mate.
As always you hit the nail on the head.
All relevant points mate. I personally don’t think so hard about it. If I make a poor decision I give the shoulders a really good shrug and move on…😅
❤ you’re a good one mate. All the best.
The Blackbay Pro still breaks my heart, as to me its one of the best looking watches in the market and my first Tudor I ever bought. Sadly the thickness over time was just undeniable for day to day use, ironically the worst desk diver I ever had.
Man, I feel your pain. Their GMT cases are too much (looks like they’re tightening them up with the newer generations) but we tell ourselves “it’s fine, I’ll make it work” - years later you come to that realisation that it’s something that can’t be avoided 🥃
The worst and best 'revelation' you get after buying that dream, expensive watch is that you finally understand... It's just a watch. You hyped yourself about the excitement you'll feel, the emotions it will cause and then you have on the wrist and you're like... Oh. Ok. So it's just a watch. It doesn't elevate me as I thought it would... Hmm..... HHMMMMMM
BUT! It's also a good thing because it helps you approach the hobby in more reasonable way. No fomo, enjoying what you have, playing with styles etc
Excellent analysis
My pleasure to share as ever! 🥃
Thank you. Wonderful video.
I am seeking that GADA watch for myself after going through a 25 year journey.
I am currently narrowing it down to the Rolex Datejust 41 ( SS / fluted / jubilee/ blue / stick ) or Rolex Yacht-master 40 ( undecided on blue or rhodeseum ).
Your thoughts please. Thank you.
Phew, tough choice. If it was me and given those two options (having experienced both) The Yachtmaster 40 is just gorgeous... I'd probably consider adding the 37mm just for that "old school" novelty like the models from the early 2000's. Dig a more "trim" size. But man, the Rhodium dial with light blue accents? Loved that watch. It's a bit shinier than you'd think (probably why most don't go after them) but as a dressy diver with a solid gold bezel? It does it all extremely well 🔥
Great content with coffee this morning! I couldn’t agree more with your design element comment. I would love to purchase the latest IWC Mark XX but won’t because it doesn’t have the original and very distinctive Mark 11 hands. I sold my previous gen. Submariner because the lugs were too chunky and the case too square in appearance. For me, it’s all in the design details. Cheers ☕️
Speaking my language Scott... I'd pick up the Mark XX in a heartbeat if it had the original handset and a hook "7". No idea why the brand doesn't return with those details (besides using them on their Limited Editions) - I think it's good to get hung up on the details because when it finally all comes together? Every day is a breath of fresh air with the watch on 😉
How small the hour markers and hands were on the 5196R I had…. Definitely a “never meet your heroes moment”
The second hand or the chrono second hand are not align the markers properly.
I've had the GS SBGN003 for a few years now, and the thing that disappointed me was that gradually I just found myself only wearing it and not the rest of my collection lol. Everything is about as perfect as I think I want a watch to be, but I have other watches I want to wear to 😭
🤦♂️ you poor thing
Definitely. Price is the big one. Also its more about, with that amount of money, what else could you have gotten. You might often hear "you paid that much for it? You could have gotten a blank instead etc"
Wanted the modern Seamaster 300M in black ceramic to go with my ‘93 in blue and my ‘01 in white with an aluminum bezel. Less elegant wear than those two, even though it’s more jewel like. And the date at 6 execution feels like an afterthought. Be better without a date window at all.
Many things you described really goes close why i didn't bond with the Seiko SRPE45J1, the size is great, 38.8mm, not too thick, the dial is really beautiful and glimmers with green in the right light, it's really beautiful but i used it for like 2 months and rarely after that, and the end of the day is a very simple watch, basically a Seiko 5 with a fancy dial and i didn't even know why bother to put an exhibition caseback on a 4R35, it's just a simple machine finished movement, at the end of the day it is a boring watch.
Meanwhile i bought a modern Tag Heuer Formula 1and it basically lives rent free in my wrist 24/7.
Funny how it works, right? When you finally get “that” watch, somehow everything else disappears and wearing it is like a breath of fresh air. Well said brother and thank you for sharing! 🥃
All of this is so true. On the flip side, I had an opportunity to by a blue BB58 and did so on almost a whim. As other watches showed up it kind of got shoved aside. But because that BB58 has such fantastic lume, I've been wearing to bed every night for a few years now.
Well, one day I was in too much of a hurry to swap it for one of my other "daytime" watches. Well, through out that day, I began to see more beauty in that piece than I ever noticed. So, I reintroduced the BB58 into my rotation.
It's like have a platonic girlfriend who has always been there as you go through various serious relationships with what appear to be more beautiful women only to realize the real gem is that platonic one. If you're lucky, she's still in your life when occurs to you that SHE is the ONE
I regret my 1st mechanical watch purchase, a Seiko SRPE03 King Turtle. The King Turtle was widely covered by TH-camrs at the time. I should have listened to myself and purchased the Hamilton KFA 38. I bought many more field watches later and much prefer Hamilton khaki field range. The King Turtle is my only dive watch and rarely wear it. I told myself, at least I have a watch to wear during the typhoon season with its water resistance. LOL... I also own a Seiko 5 Sports field SRPG27K1 and Seiko SNK381K1. Both watches combined cost less than my King Turtle that I purchased on sale from the AD. It reminds me of one more regret, I discovered the grey market after buying the King Turtle.
They cheaped out on the bracelet is the most common. Not enough links, not enough adjustment, poor clasp etc. Seiko has a special place in hell for quality control.
Too right brother 😆 Any of the big names who cheapen out when it comes to clasps and micro-adjustments... should be a crime at this point 🥃