Reamping: Everything you need to know
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Today we are with Matt McQueen from Capsule to Clone TH-cam Channel, where he is sharing with us the importance of Re-Amping and how to do it!
Re-Amping is an incredibly valuable technique that goes beyond being able to capture the DI of a guitar that you can use later on to save a poorly recorded guitar sound or change the sound in post; Re-Amping can open up a lot of creative opportunities and it's not just for guitar-centric genres, it's for ALL genres. It can allow you to do things put a guitar effect on a vocal!
In the video, Matt shows you how to make all of the connections and everything technical you need to know, as well as different techniques you can use while Re-Amping and how to set yourself up for creativity down the line!
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Well Warren, I have to confess that one of my favorite emotive guitar solo is by David Lindley on the Jackson Browne song ‘that girl could sing’ I had the occasion to speak to Jackson backstage at the joint in the hard rock in Las Vegas he said they were cranking his amp through a Fairchild that was about to blow up. I now cut emotive ‘belly-tone’ gtr solos maxing a UA 660 or 670 with the bias set-screw full counter-clockwise, and voila! There it is…
I'm thinking about how I can amplify vocals that are already in my DAW. So out through my audio interface (Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 3rd Gen) and then into the microphone preamp (Golden Age Project PRE-73 Premier) and from there back into my DAW.
But somehow it doesn't want to work. Something must be wrong with my wiring. I just don't know what. Either nothing arrives or it is just heavily distorted.
@@tunemxr480 That's sick, I'll have to try that out for myself.
@@atarifalcon When you are coming out of the Scarlett you will sending signal at line level. You want to make sure that you have the line level switch depressed on the GAP-73 Premier and that should help you avoid distion. Let me know if that works.
@@Matt_McQueen Hi,
Thank you for your feedback.
I've tried pretty much everything there. I left Cubase on my 18i20. The starting point is the exit of the Scarlett and then the entrance on the back of the GAP Premier. There, too, the GAP with a jack has a combination socket as an input.
Then I push the Line button on the front of the GAP. Then I set up a mono input in Cubase and route the signal to a mono audio track. Result, there is a lot of noise. If I turn up the gain on the GAP further, it distorts relatively quickly in Cubase.
I'm doing something fundamentally wrong. But don't find out what.
Excellent video on re-amping. Thank you :)
Love Matt's channel! This video is great. Simple indeed!
Lee, thanks for the kind words and for watching the video! Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks, Lee! You Rock!
Happy Monday everybody! How was your weekend?
Well, I'm heavier than I was on Friday!
It was great, but now it's time to get back to work!! Hope yours was great Warren!
Enoying the winter wonderland! Cheers Warren!!
Andrea and I had a relaxed Christmas weekend, without any stress or hustle. I hope you and your family had a great time too.
My weekend was great. Had an amazing time with family and seeing the kiddos open presents!
You can measure your latency sending a drum sample out of your interface and recording back. Once you know how many samples of delay you have, you can configure your daw to compensate automatically.
Thanks for the tip! Also, Thanks for watching and commenting!
This video is really great. Thank you.
Your channel is so helpful. This is a great segment!
Thanks ever so much Robert!!!
Robert, thanks so much for watching and commenting!
@@Matt_McQueen you rock Matt!
I didn't realise how important the DI box was. Got myself a cheap one but could never get the reamp to sound right, it always sounded mushy. Grabbed a Radial J48 and BOOM, there it was. Rather save a little longer and get the higher end gear (I cannot praise the Radial gear enough) over buying something cheap/unproven. You will probably waste money that could have been put into the better gear. When reamping, use your ears a lot. Forget about the digital graphs etc, tune the output signal into the amp until the you get the sound you want out of the amp. Like anything, this takes time and practice. Thanks so much for the video!
Pfff... Very well explained, and also GREAT advices on how to do things like keeping It low in home studios to avoid latency and the possibilities of the reamp world. Thank you very much🎉
Great video, thank you for this!
Thanks ever so much
Best info on reamping ever
Thanks ever so much
Thanks for the video! I must mention Mr. John Cuniberti here and his original design for the REAMP. I don't know if he can be considered the inventor of re-amping, but he did develop what is considered by many to be the gold standard DI box for doing it (the circuit was eventually sold to Radial and is now sold as the JCR model). I have several DI boxes and I must say the JCR seems to be the closest to actually plugging the guitar back into the amp. Disclaimer: I have been working with John for many years, but certainly don't get a dime if Radial sells a DI!
Hi Andre, thanks for that great comment! See above, someone is claiming that Palmer invented the ReAmp. I was always under the impression that John Cuniberti had come up with the gold standard as you put it! Many thanks!
@@Producelikeapro well Warren, now you’ve put me in a tight spot, since I’m a Palmer artist… ha! As I understand it, though, John developed it independently out of necessity when trying to fix a bass track on a Satriani live recording. The amp track was unusable and when he found the DI track, he decided to give resending it to the amp a shot. In the process, he developed what most found to be the gold standard.
Keep up the great work and I hope your hand is healing. Andre
Radial JDI Passive DI works both ways. I can record the DI signal from the guitar into the DAW, then send the signal back out into the XLR of the JDI back into the amp/pedals from the 1/4" jacks on the JDI. Then record the amp with a mic or any combination. You can't use an active DI box for this. Passive DI work the best as they go both ways matching impedance. I usually use the PAD on the JDI and control the signal level from the DAW. I've done this numerous times - works great.
For anyone else trying this, just be careful with your output levels. The transformer in the JDI was intended to handle an output that it nominally mic level, something like -40 to -50 dBV. If you feed a +4 dBu signal back into it with a turnaround adapter, you run the risk of oversaturating the transformer, or worse, burning out the windings.
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Really nice video matt!
Thanks so much, and thanks for commenting!
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Happy holidays to you as well! Thanks so miuch for watching the video! Let me know if you have any questions that weren't answered in the video!
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@@Matt_McQueen Yessir! TY
@@Producelikeapro TY. Appreciate ALL the inspiration you bring on your channel! Greatly appreciate 10x
Love that oversized chess knight decoration in the background! It's so cool!
Thanks so much! My wife got me that after we watched "The Queen's Gambit" on netflix. We both loved the series and I thought it was a good addition to the control room.
@@Matt_McQueen you should put them on your monitors
I use a digi eleven rack for an interface.
It has reamping abilities built in.
Never used them but am inspired to try after this video.👍🏻
I used to use the Eleven Rack, I really enjoyed having one to play around with and that is the device that got me started into re-amping and experimenting with changing guitar sounds after they were recorded.
Thanks for sharing! Glad this video has inspired you.
First time I ever heard of this was from Joe Satriani when John Cuniberti was producing ‘surfing with the alien’ - and now it’s a fucking standard!
So true!
Cuniberti is the man!
I used to sort of do this with vocals and acoustic, and other instruments. It's just a good reminder that it can be done with electric guitars and assorted pedals as well. A bit like swatch watches. 💕 I did do a lot of trial and error to not have latency. I didn't have too much trouble with that unless trying to do something over Skype or live chats. Ironically years ago Skype worked very well without that if not too many people were in the skype session. In later years it wasn't as good that way. Not sure why. A few times we tamed it live.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting. Tell me more about what you were doing over skype? I'm not quite sure I follow, but I am interested to know more.
Really cool video! When I like to reamp my wha guitar parts and play the wah pedal with my hand, I get better control and I can actually time my bends and the wah perfectly.
I have done that before too. When you want it to be really perfect! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Do you not drive a car? Foot control really isn't that hard just takes practice...
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10 points to Gryffindor, on account of the added creativity, it's certainly given me food for thought. Nice
HAHA! I'll take every point I can get, Professor! Thanks for watching!
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Radial Pro48 is very affordable, and one of the very few active DIs which do NOT produce ground loops: it's P48 supply is fully decoupled from the signal ground! This way, you can hook it up everywhere in the signal chain (between guitar and amp, or pedalboard and amp, or amp and speaker) without producing any ground loops with your recording device. For example both the Neve RNDI and the UAD 610 DI input are NOT ground free, and produce hum when the signal is simultaneously routed through to an amplifier.
Huge fan of Radial!! They make amazing gear and it’s bullet proof!
@@Producelikeapro I forgot to mention: The only DI input I have giving me a very slightly cleaner / more detailed signal then the Pro48, but not ground free, is the DI input of my Avalon M5... - so the Pro48 signal is very clean, and thus a good choice for reamping, while transformer-based passive DIs tend to add their flavour to the base signal.
Thanks for watching Tom! I didnt know that about the Radial, so thanks for sharing!
Using a DI and fancier units like the IK Multimedia Z-TONE DI has done a lot to improve my guitar sound for ITB processing.
That's a really cool device, that I didnt know existed. Thanks for sharing!
I got an axe i/o solo from IK Multimediea and for some reason it ruins the guitar tone when reamping, it reduces the gain and gates it... Unless I don't have something set up right in the DAW
In Studio One, pipeline xt takes care of the latency offset for you. 😁👍🏾
this is amazing, saving for later :D
Thank you so much for watching! Let me know if you have any questions about the video that I can answer!
I'm glad you like it!
"we've got the PERFORMANCE we want to capture, we just want to be able to manipulate it further to realize additional possibilities based on it"
people wonder why we go through all the trouble
well, because maybe on our voyage out into the great re-amping unknown
we will find a pearl, and bring it back to our song, and let other people enjoy it
you never know what you'll find when you go exploring :)
This video is very helpful! So to be clear, is it okay to use a passive DI box to capture the electric guitar with passive pickups? I'm seeing a lot of stuff online saying you should use an active DI box if your guitar has passive pickups.
I use Focusrite Control to route my first two outputs through my third output, which feeds into my reamp box. I use the output preset in Focusrite Control called System Playback. This way I'm able to channel my stems through my reamp box but the problem is that I have to solo the stem Channel in Reaper and mute the monitor in my miced channels, otherwise the entire mix comes out of the reamp box and out of my speakers.
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
Great vid! Active or passive DI? As I understand it, most/all passive DIs are quite low impedance compared to guitar amps and pedals and using the thru jack on a passive DI even puts this low impedance in parallel with the amps impedance, resulting in the guitar seeing an even lower impedance with some loss of treble as a result. Am I missing something here?
Hi what about splitting the signal to record the guitar panels to one track and split the dry signal to another track so use a vst amp like Pete thorns amp.. what di would you use there.. saw the fender peddle that splits your single to two amp. Could you use that to go to the people's and the other dry signal to the interface
Thanks.
Awesome
Thanks ever so much
This is a great video man.
One seemingly stupid question (but a serious one!) in terms of using a line level out and this being too hot, can you not just turn it down? Say use a pre-fader send from the track you want to put through the guitar pedal, send it to a physical output, lose the reamp box and just go straight into the pedal?? I've done this before with a spring reverb tank and also a delay pedal (mxr carbon) and it seemed fine, though not sure if my ears are missing something.
Have wondered for ages is all and would just rather be sure before forking out the $$$
Hi! I bought a reamp box and I'm following the instructions in the video step by step but there is a feedback noise every time I give it some volume. If I use the gain or volume very very low that does not happen. Any idea what the problem could be? Thank so much!
Brilliant walk through, I’m just starting to mess with reamping, mainly enjoying it on non guitar stuff, any rules of thumb on levels to shoot for on vocals, or it is it a general ‘If it sounds good it is good’ thing?
I think use your best judgment, if it sounds good it is good. But when I am recording anything I try to leave the fader at unity, and record it at the level I want it in the song...that doesnt always happen, and if I need to raise it or lower it a bit, I dont stress, I just push the fader up or down.
I thought the Avid Eleven was the studio standard, one-stop-shop for this? You can plug the GTR direct into the Eleven, pull 2 lines back to the DAW (one affected and one clean) and you can use that clean track in the daw anytime you want to send back out to the Eleven or a pedal or amp or something else... most of the tones in the Eleven are pretty solid and most of the time when I track that's all I've done especially since I'm not a guitar player by any means and don't own a full rig or a pedal board.
I think it was definitely billed as the one stop shop. I had have owned 2 of them, they do offer some flexibility for routing, but the digital guitar market has changed fast and new products are developed all the time and avid was slow to update it. So I don’t think it survived. It’s been discontinued many years now.
Technical question, can I use a re amp box, to take the sound out of my interface with a single stereo output, pass it through a pedal and then return to the interface through its single stereo input and have no feedback when recording?
I remain attentive to your comments, thank you very much.
The correct order is: DI -> gear -> Reamp or the other way arround?
What is the optimal db level to track your DI signal before turning around and reamping?
Heya Matt! I bought a Radial reamp box that is blue-I didn't buy The Orange Radial Reamp Box. The Blue is Transformer isolated-perhaps you could explain the differences. Oh, and Buy Radial or Countryman or Radial if you can afford them. 🙂 Thanks, man!
the transformer isolation keeps you from getting ground loop hums. Sometimes they still occur, and you have a ground lift swith on the pro reamp. Thanks for watching!
Great video! Matt, many people says that a simple DI box like the J48 would work exactly as ReAmp box! What do you think? 🙄
The ReAmp box allows for the level matches, meaning you can just take the signal and send it back to the amp etc without having to continually readjust. Personally I like this as it allows me to work quickly and try many ideas.
How do you set your output volume when sending it through the reamp box to the amp?
If using a proper ReAmp box it will compensate for the impedance mismatch and the only volume difference would be how you drive the amp
@@Producelikeapro Hmm, When I used to use the radial reamp box it made a world of difference how hard I send my tracks. There is different guitar pickup outputs right?
Another great reason to run signal to a real amp, even when DI-ing: feedback, and other interactions between the guitar and the amp.
You will never get the same kind of feedback (if any) playing with a low(er)-gain tone and/or at a quieter volume. With a hellaciously loud amp in the room with you, you'll get as much feedback as you want, **which will be included in the DI recording**, which you can then re-amp later through a cleaner amp.
Not to mention, guitarists play differently in loud vs. quiet environments, so having a roaring amp in the room with the musician can have a significant impact on the **performance**. Which (unless the tone is so wildly off-base as to be laughable) is far more important than the specifics of the tone itself.
I would much rather have to put some extra work into getting a less-than-idea guitar tone to fit properly in the mix as long as the performance was spectacular, as opposed to a situation where the tone was spot-on *perfect* but the performance was robotic or out of time, uninspiring, etc.
These are great thoughts. One of the great things about the modern studio is that we don’t have to choose. There have definitely been situations just as you’ve stated where it just didn’t cut it to have the guitar parts tracked in the control room, and being in front of the amp for feedback or just the way it feels was the right move. Whatever works to get the part recorded correctly and the performance feeling like it fits is the right thing to do. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Studio one has a pipeline plugin that will take care of any latency.
Yes, I have heard that is really good. I have had several friends tell me I should give it ago. But I feel far too busy at the moment to learn a new DAW. I should give it a try though.
Hey! 🎉 I’m still learning about pedals in general. I have a Cory Wong compressor pedal that I would like to use with my vocals straight into my arturia interface for recording. For fun, I was curious❤. I have a dynamite stick for if the microphone is too quiet. Do I have to use a di box or something similar, or will it work at all if I just get an xlr to guitar-sized instrument cable to connect my mic to the pedal? My compressor pedal has an xlr out for using it direct with an interface. It also has a switch to make it less noisy with grounding. though I’m not sure if that makes a difference with my question. new learner!
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Latency? How far behind is ProTools lagging? Has AVID stopped all development? Or am I misunderstanding the issue? All major DAWs have automatic latency compensation, right?
Not all major DAWs. FL Studio's latency compensation is garbage. xD
Question would I need a Passive DI ?
I have a TC Electronic 1140 that I’m having Impedance issues to where the TC will go into over load . Do I need a DI a buffer before and after the chain ? I thought If a pedal is in the chain and off it’s becomes a buffer .. anyway I know my guitar pickups out high output , The TC 1140 preamp parametric eq is a beast itself and I’m running the TC in the front of my JCM800 and just a boss delay in the loop any thoughts here
I was curious, couldnt you send your output to say a guitar amp head, raise or lower the volume from there instead of using a reamp box?
Nice Video...pardon my ignorance but what i want is to play my guitar connected to my Audio Interface and use my TONEX software (without Cab Sim) and play it trough my Tube Amp and Cab. Can you help me? note my Amp has an FX Loop Send & Return...Also do i need a Reamp Box or Just a DI Box? also, i own a Preamp high gain pedal which i can bypass to just have a Clean Signal from it...wondering if i can use this Pedal to save money buying Reamp Boxes or DI Boxes...Thank You!
You just need a guitar pedal with a decent buffer (ie. any boss pedal)
For anyone interested look on youtube for tutorials to do it without a reamp box and use pedal.
So...Say you have a Boss AD-2? (if you have one, just turn it off, plus it has Buffer) On the input chain put it first, for your electric, use "output" to next in chain to record pedals/amp. Use "lineout" TRS to DAW for DI? Seems simple for frontside?
So are you suggesting using the Boss AD-2 instead of a Re-amp box? I have never done that...but I am interested to know if you have and what results you got. Let me know, and thanks for watching!
@@Matt_McQueen Vs buying a DI box on input. Most may have one of these around.
I’ve always been curious as to how hot to record the initial DI. Does it even matter? I just wanna know how to replicate the guitar’s output exactly as the amp would see it.
Nobody ever talks about that part. I’ve watched dozens and dozens of videos and nobody ever talks about it
-18dbfs unless your converters are calibrated to something else like -15dbfs or -22dbfs
Doesn’t really matter (as long as you don’t clip) I aim for -10dBFS peak signal level on DAW meters. When re-amping, a clip LED on the re-amp box should light if the signal going is too hot - so reduce it in your DAW.
I dont think it really matters, as long as the signal is cleaning going into pro tools, it will come back out of the reamp box exactly as it when in through the DI. The thing that I play with much more is my output level on the Reamping Box. That can make the amp sound like it was recorded with pickups that were lower or higher output depending on how you set it.
Hey Randall (and everyone else) I have a very short concise video about just this on my channel. It’s quite simple. Essentially record a di, then reamp it back into the di and level match it with the original di using your reamps output level control.
Also, to avoid latency, just use the thru on the DI, go to the amp and record both with the DI muted. If you wanna change anything later, just use the DI that was recorded simultaneously. Not sure I see the/any benefit of routing through Pro Tools first.
The main benefit of going through pro tools is that when you are reamping you are using the "identical" DI sound to what you monitored with. That method solves the issue of your guitar sounding a little different out of the DAW compared to the through output of your DI Box.
Thanks for wathing, @Soothsayer Audio is correct. The second benefit of doing it this way is that if you have to make any edits, you can quickly edit the DI while everything is hooked up and then unarm the DI track, and re-record the edited part with the amp sound you've been trackign with.
Is the X-amp better than the EXTC? I really like the look of the EXTC because of the blend control. But I’m thinking now, is the X-amp better sounding. Anyone have any info?
Thanks for the great video!
Having owned both they sound pretty much the same so get whichever has the features you need.
Radial has a great video comparing all 4 of their reamp boxes. They do all sound a little different, but they all sound great and each has different features, so get whatever model fits your needs.
@@soothsayeraudio919 Thanks! I think I’ll grab the EXTC because I want to use my pedals for mixing rather than “traditional” re-amping. The blend dial will be very useful
I have a Focusrite 18i20. I always thought that I could just record DI through that into my DAW and then route out of it into my amp, and then record the signal coming in through another input of the interface.
I've tried it before, but yeah, it didn't sound right. Now I know you need two boxes - a DI box to record into, and a REAMP box to route audio out of the DAW into the guitar amp. And an interface of course to record the amp back into the DAW. Shit gets confusing!
Looks like I might need to spend another $300-400 on a couple more pieces of equipment.
P.S. I suppose I could just record DI through the interface, so really the REAMP box is the only missing piece of equipment. Of course, I can't record an amp and clean signal simultaneously, which means my performance might be hindered playing just a boring clean signal on my guitar.
You can hook a Radial Pro48 ($110) between your pedalboard and your amp - this should allow you to record the DI signal and listen to / record your amp simultaneously. For reamping, a symetric line level output of your Focusrite should work, possibly combined with a small resistor network (eg 2kOhm in parallel, 20kOhm in series on both signal paths), to adopt the low impedance line out signal to a high impedance amp in.
@@tom_k_d What does this small resistor network look like? It is a special kind of cable to use? I've never heard of that before and wasn't sure what that means.
Is it an H pad? It looks like an XLR cable attachment that reduces the signal levels?
@@matthewdotson2186 Your focusrite interface has low impedance (430 Ohms) symetric line level outputs, max 15,5 dBu (!). While these are too powerful when connected directly (a typical guitar amp input will clip at aprox. 0dBu), you could solder yourself an adapter cable with three or four resistors to reduce the output signal and give it a higher impedance (a typical guitar pickup impedance is in the kOhms range). Also, ramp the output volume up SLOWLY when testing it... As resistors are cheap, you can play around till you find a good match - possibly add a guitar volume pot (eg 250kOhms) at the end of this circuitry. Of course a decent reamping box will do the same job, and possibly adds some equalization options on top, but I understood you were looking for a good budget solution.
You can try eg: in parallel with the output 20kOhm and 2kOhm in series. Then, on both sides of the 2kOhm (this voltage divider should reduce voltage by a factor of 10) to the amp input, hot and gnd, 20kOhms in series each for impedance matching.
@@tom_k_d Thank you for the clarification on this. However, my electronics skills and understanding are far too limited to pull off something like this. haha I'm just not that educated on circuitry to know what the heck I'm doing.
Cool video but I really, really would like to know if my interface instrument input is good enough LOL
Need a cheap re-amp box? Use a buffered Boss pedal.
I need to try this. You are the second person on this thread to suggest it, and so now I am interested to see what the results are like.
How do you re-amp vocals?
you can do it with either box I talked about in the video. The X Amp, will let you run the vocal through pedal, into an amp, and then record the amp sound with the with a mic on the cabinet. The EXTC will let you run the vocal out of the DAW, into pedals, and then back into the DAW without the amp sound.
Loved the info but for those real SLOW ppl out there (me), can you dumb it down and explain more on why are you using a D.I box when reamping, what are the connections on the back of the EXTC, can I use TRS instead of XLR, creating track/s for the reamping stage…I tried what you did and my reamping experience fell through…
How do you monitor while you're re-amping? Is it even possible. I've just set everything up with 2i2 Scarlet and it will re-amp and I can track it. But I just can't listen to it in real time. Why not? This is a total mystery that nobody seems to have the answer to. In fact the only way I can re-amp a guitar is by soloing it. And even then I can't hear the signal in real time.
So you basically daisy chain multiple amps together? What is the guitar player going to do when he has to play live without having 2 amps to create his/her sound?
Why not just use a regular reamp box for pedals?
You can if you are going in to a guitar amp and then micing the gutiar cab. The point of the EXTC is that you can "ReAmp" a vocal track for example though a pedal, like a delay or phaser and the vocal still sound like the vocal not like it when through an amp. A guitar amp will make much more filtered sounding.
in case you want to use a DI-Box as a Reampbox you have to use a passive DI-Box and flipp it over, so the output becomes the input and vice verser. But you will lose a little bit of clarity...
so a reampbox works a lot better
Thanks for Sharing. This is the reason I would continue to just push folks toward getting the right tool for the job. I want all the clarity! haha! But seriously, I want to make sure I have taken the steps to give myself every advantage possible when recording tracks. I want them to sound their best.
@@Matt_McQueen yeah definitely, and it is our f*** job to get the best possible sound :D
but it´s funny that it works anyway, and maybe it´s a low budget solution to have both boxes in one
No, don't do that. A passive DI is a step-down transformer (usually 12:1) that steps an instrument's volume and impedance down to microphone level. Using it in reverse flips the transformer's ratio, so the DI will step up your signal by 12x. So if your line-level signal for re-amping is a standard +4dBu, it will leave the reverse DI at a whopping +25.5dBu! This will clip most guitar pedal and amp inputs. Our amp is expecting around -20dBu.
It's said quite often that "A reamp box converts a low impedance, balanced line level signal to high impedance, unbalanced instrument level signal. " As for converting to high impedance, I'm afraid it's not correct, the key point here is level match. BTW I have found out there're quite a few reamp devices having super low output impedance. On the other hand, if converting to high impedance is necessary, then none of the pedals should go directly into the main input of an amp.
Pro audio line level is very low impedance, 150 Ohms on my RME. Pedal outputs are at least in the kOhm range (as guitar pickups are, too). While in general it should work to hook the very low impedance line out to a 1M amp input, it can cause unneccessary noise to connect without impedance matching, and passive tone control before the first amp stage will be affected, too (eg the classic fender 'bright' switch).
To help clear up any confusion let me quote some of the introduction from Radial X-Amp Manual.
“Since guitar amps and recording devices work at different signal levels, they are not directly compatible. In essence, the X-Amp allows these devices to ‘speak’ to each other. The Radial X-Amp is an active ‘impedance and level-matching device’ that converts line level signals from a mixing console or tape recorder to guitar level signals to drive one or two guitar amplifiers without introducing ground-loops or noise.”
That’s the main reason to use a reamp box, match signal levels and impedance! Hope this helps, thanks so much for watching and commenting!
@@Matt_McQueen For most modern interfaces this will apply, however this statement is a bit to general for my taste: for example, if you are in the lucky position to possess a nice console with transformer-coupled line-outs, there will be no grounding issue, and the aprox. 20dB level reduction can be done with a fader, too. In such cases the golden rule to hook up as little as minimal necessary within the audio path to achieve best sound quality still could be the best solution. As you can not destroy anything by hooking a low impedance line out directly to an amp (provided you ramp the volume up SLOWLY), it's always worth a try.
@tom k d @Capsule to Cone Thanks for reply . No offense, I know what you said does make sense. But what I have found out is contrary to popular saying.
1. Roland's Octa-Capture interface has a output impedance of 1.8k, while Boss' BD-2W pedal (in fact almost all of Boss' pedals) has 1k output impedance.
2. Audient's SONO interface has dedicated re-amp output. Guess what? The output impedance is less than 50 Ohms . And Ik Multimedia's AXE I/O also has re-amp output, this time with 100 Ohms impedance.
3. I have tried but can't find where Radial has told us their active re-amp boxes' output impedances. But their active DIs' output impedances are stated clearly.
And if say 150 Ohms is too low for RME interface to go directly into an amp's main input, can Octa-Capture (with 1.8k output impedance, which is larger than many pedals' impedance) go directly? Surely we need to lower the output level first.
But waite, how can SONO interface has only 50 Ohms impedance for re-amp out?
@@mingxiao7396 Low output impedance is per se no show stopper - but it might cause undersirable side effects like increased hiss or changes in tone (eg the Boss move from 10k to 1k is not appreciated by many of their users). A second issue with floating electronically balanced line outs can be hum / grounding problems, depending on the overall setup. With transfomer-decoupled outputs, this is not an issue. But as said, it's always worth a try.
passive DI boxes work in reverse for reamping. adjust the signal gain going out to match the guitar levels.
Thanks for watching and commenting! I’m sure it would work, but I can’t help myself, I’d rather have “the right tool” for the job. Plus almost any re-amp box is going to have more features and flexibility for routing and matching the level of the signal.
Yes, indeed, I don’t want to continually rebalance levels I want the level to be right. I have done the ‘in reverse’ methods out of necessity and it works but the signal is way off
u are my precious
Where's Warren? Isn't this his channel?
[Avalon] U5 just went up in price again...LOL!
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Haha indeed!
@@Producelikeapro yes :)
Room looks great until Warren starts throwing all his crap in there. Books, pictures, stuff, stuff stuff. Drives me crazy but love the the guy, love the content. Marry Christmas and congrates on the new room.
Haha this is Matt McQueen’s room not mine haha
Hahaha! Yes, as Warren said, this is my room in East, TN. I try hard to keep it clean, but a few trinkets help me keep from feeling like the room is too clean! Merry Christmas and happy new year! Thanks for watching and commenting!
You talk too much. Wish your video was simple.