Clu's Betrayal, from 3 different viewpoints

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  • I guess I haven't mentioned this before, but I LOVE Tron: Legacy. And pretty much any other Tron related stuff. It's one of only a handful of movies I liked as a kid and still like today. I liked it as a kid cause it looked cool, and I got back into it as an adult cause I was getting into Daft Punk and they made the soundtrack for Legacy. When Disney+ came out I binge-watched Uprising, I bought the Tron: Legacy Lego set to display in my room, and earlier this week I finally got a copy of Tron: Evolution. All 3 of these (well, minus the Lego set) feature a variant of Clu's betrayal of Kevin Flynn and Tron, so I stitched them together into, uh, let's call it an extended cut.
    Anyway, this is what severe boredom and procrastination on my college work gets you. Hopefully this stays up and Disney doesn't take it down. Even though they do next to nothing with Tron in the first place.
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  • @cretinouscretin9677
    @cretinouscretin9677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +365

    I love this scene because of it creates, in writing, what is called a Rashomon Effect.
    We see Clu’s coup from four different perspectives across the Tron franchise (Tron’s in the Betrayal comic, Anon’s in Evolution, Dyson’s in Uprising, and Flynn’s in Legacy) and for various reasons absolutely none of these narrators are totally reliable, with different priorities and feelings that were going through their heads in the moment.

    • @ericbazinga
      @ericbazinga  3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      That's really cool, makes it feel like more than just an inconsistent amalgamation of events. While editing this, I realized that Tron tells Flynn to run away twice in Legacy (once softly, then the more obvious yelling) and I debated forever on which should I use to line up with the others. Betrayal would've been hard to do, Clu's rise to power is way more gradual there. I think out of which one of these is my favorite, it's a tie between Legacy and Betrayal.

    • @art-n-filmsam3844
      @art-n-filmsam3844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Flynn (Legacy) - the one who never expected it and recalls the loss of friends and innocence, focused on the raw emotion and tragedy
      Tron (Betrayal) - the inevitable outcome of decades of lies, deceit, and the grayness of CLU and the Grid - it was silent, like the last note of a tragic symphony
      Anon (Evolution) - The bystander with no choice but to watch it was his call to action to fight for Quorra and Flynn
      Dyson (Uprising) - This is when he sold his soul - gave into his demons and gave it all up to CLU. He stands proud - defeating the friend of his enemies - Flynn and the ISOs

    • @NoogahOogah
      @NoogahOogah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It makes it feel like something that really happened, somewhere, some time.

    • @ChristianGibbons777
      @ChristianGibbons777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What’s a “Rashomon Effect” exactly??? I’ve never heard of it!

    • @cretinouscretin9677
      @cretinouscretin9677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@ChristianGibbons777 The Rashomon effect is a term related to the notorious unreliability of eyewitnesses. It describes a situation in which an event is given contradictory interpretations or descriptions by the individuals involved.

  • @kozyisback
    @kozyisback 3 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Does anybody else have an OCD thingy whenever CLU’s helmet doesn’t lighting up in Tron: Evolution?

    • @SuccubiSage
      @SuccubiSage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah it really irked me back when I played the game

    • @ericbazinga
      @ericbazinga  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Me

    • @maulsrevenge
      @maulsrevenge 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No

  • @kamil.p5134
    @kamil.p5134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    This "FLYNN" was synced pretty much flawless

  • @DrasticFox2004
    @DrasticFox2004 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    I’d like to think that extra scene *where Tron discovered Dyson had betrayed him, and turned him into Rinzler* was after CLU had seemingly “killed Tron” before Flynn left.

    • @quaramher
      @quaramher ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Given how the music syncs between the 2 scenes, I have to agree.

    • @Heavenly_Son
      @Heavenly_Son ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I just posted a comment about the difference in scenes being how everyone saw it. Anon stops watching before clu intervened bc he got into a fight. Flynn’s perspective is different bc he ran and tron has the full story

    • @Heavenly_Son
      @Heavenly_Son ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Only thing I can’t explain is the dual wielding

    • @Thepki12
      @Thepki12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      there is an error here since when clu talks to tron ​​this happens after 2:12 and not before

  • @stealthy_rebooted
    @stealthy_rebooted ปีที่แล้ว +19

    technically evolution would be the perfect pov as it isnt any narrative flashback or whatever, its anon actually experiencing everything

  • @dreamfall8
    @dreamfall8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    OMG the three" yEaH?'s" were awesome 00:23

  • @abdulbah2176
    @abdulbah2176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    The fact that Clu’s helmet doesn’t light up like in the movies just triggers the hell out of me

    • @noctemluxarmiger
      @noctemluxarmiger ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I know right. It's insanely irksome

    • @natek4488
      @natek4488 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably just an animation error

  • @threat7329
    @threat7329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    FLYNN GO!

  • @ericbazinga
    @ericbazinga  4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Shout-out to UMG and WMG for copyright claiming the video. Even though those companies, owned by Universal and Warner Bros. respectively, don't own rights to the Tron: Legacy soundtrack. If anyone's copystriking this video, it should be Disney.
    Ah, whatever. I wasn't gonna make money off this anyway.

    • @rubyrose5038
      @rubyrose5038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'm trying to find out how they have the jurisdiction to actually claim you for it, but my hands are tied lol

    • @Ashurion-Neonix
      @Ashurion-Neonix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The soundtrack was literally released on Disney's own record label. Why th did they of all people claim it?

  • @cybernautadventurer
    @cybernautadventurer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Flynn, when someone asks if they are to create the perfect system, you say “No”!

  • @notbrutustheanimator
    @notbrutustheanimator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I really love how all of these scenes create more story to this scene, after Anon has just derrezed a few infected, he spots Flynn and Tron, then their is Dyson's point of view as when CLU puts on his mask Dyson commands the black guards to Derrezz Tron and Flynn, then the black guards surround Flynn and Tron, Tron immediately kills all the black guards but before Anon witnesses his death he is interrupted by a red program ready to battle him. After Tron was defeated by CLU, Dyson walks into the scene and finishes the job. But I'm pretty sure Dyson killing Tron comes after when Flynn left and CLU defeated Tron.

  • @TheCrunkulous
    @TheCrunkulous 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Nice work! I never played Evolution, so I never knew there was a scene from Anon's P.O.V. I'm glad to see a completed version of this scene, despite each scene having different continuity errors.

    • @ericbazinga
      @ericbazinga  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Agreed. I would've included Tron: Betrayal as well, but Clu's deception is entirely different there than in these 3 versions.

    • @ericbazinga
      @ericbazinga  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @The Devastator A comic book

  • @powerninjatm362
    @powerninjatm362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    0:12 "Flynn" and 0:23 "Yeah…" are really awesome

  • @ChristianGibbons777
    @ChristianGibbons777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Tron Uprising’s slight continuity error is still visually impactful!... Tron had a black suit on, not a white suit! The white neon high lights are both correct though.

    • @imjusthere9006
      @imjusthere9006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Think is was more of an artist Liberty, to link to tron's look in the original move, but I do prefer his black suit.

    • @facundocallepatron9557
      @facundocallepatron9557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@imjusthere9006 Si yo tambien además ademas de que todos en Tron la resistencia se parecen a los de tron el legado menos Tron ya que no sé parace al de el flashback de Flynn

  • @TennyDoctor1104
    @TennyDoctor1104 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    If you think about the two scenes, the one from the movie is what Flynn remembers, and the one from the show is the one both TRON and Dyson remember. and we have our brief POV of Anon. So they're remembering what sticks out in their memory about what happened that night.

  • @SonGokan7376
    @SonGokan7376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I think Tron Legacy did it in a more Badass way

    • @CyberTheFurry
      @CyberTheFurry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree, it just fits well and sounds the best to me

  • @indyclonejr
    @indyclonejr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I don't think Clu and Dyson's talk with Tron happened exactly how you showed it, I think Clu struck Tron then Flynn left which then followed up with Dyson walking in, which explains Tron's injuries there. Plus it explains why we Don't see Dyson there in Legacy.

  • @ryanstauffer119
    @ryanstauffer119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The ending is messed up. On Tron’s chest in “Uprising”, it shows that Clu already sliced him up a bit. So Kevin had already ran away by that point. In “Legacy”, Kevin doesn’t see Dyson there.

  • @CyberTheFurry
    @CyberTheFurry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I watch legacy, I played evolution and I watched uprising
    But my favourite version has of the scene has to be legacy it just sits with me well and made me feel upset watching it. Great video and thank you

  • @inyalgaico1563
    @inyalgaico1563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This still missing time within all the sequences i imagine after Flynn ran dyson came in

    • @notbrutustheanimator
      @notbrutustheanimator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, Since in legacy we didn't see Dyson, and I think CLU gave tron those scars in the scene when Tron gave that speech where tron gives the speech about Flynn being the creator and CLU being the villain,

  • @chriscombi1614
    @chriscombi1614 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've thought about making this video for the longest time, but when I finally got the motivation to do it and look for clips I saw you beat me to it >:( Nice work

    • @ericbazinga
      @ericbazinga  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Technically someone else already beat me to it, but they didn't include footage from Evolution.

  • @diego_iiii
    @diego_iiii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Best scene of all Tron.

  • @victorzu3401
    @victorzu3401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Lucifer to God: Am i still to create the perfect system ?

    • @ericbazinga
      @ericbazinga  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      yeah

    • @victorzu3401
      @victorzu3401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ericbazinga Flynn go !

    • @Unkown4life22
      @Unkown4life22 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who would be tron then Jesus? 😂

    • @ErickSoares3
      @ErickSoares3 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Unkown4life22 In the end of Legacy he sacrificed himself for the users -- and then is apparently "reborn"...

  • @Magemo7
    @Magemo7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I never understood why Tron is white in Uprising.

    • @ericbazinga
      @ericbazinga  4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Agreed tbh, but it still looks nice enough

    • @Scoonertuna
      @Scoonertuna 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I think it's to make him stand out from all the other programs...

    • @Magemo7
      @Magemo7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Scoonertuna yep so he's not very discret ... and the scenes are incoherent..

    • @Magemo7
      @Magemo7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Supernerd471 yes but in the flashback he's white on one instance and black pn the other. A bridge between original and legacy should act before the flasback of Legacy, before Clu's revolution.

    • @inyalgaico1563
      @inyalgaico1563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      White Tron is homage to his suit from the origional tron franchise

  • @elmachogamer1009
    @elmachogamer1009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My theory on the show is that in Tron Legacy tron is actually Beck and that the original Tron had died sometime in between season two most likely but in his final moments he officially made Beck Tron and then surpassed him but somehow clue captured him and repurposed him even and that's why in the final movie He's the bad guy up until the final moment but I guess in the end
    TRON LIVES!!!!!
    #tronlives

    • @kirito8720
      @kirito8720 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Beck became a pseudo system monitor under Tron. His status is still Unknown. But we know that it was actually Tron not only because of the voice and the grid system doesn’t have a backup of Beck. We can see in the Sea of Simulation scene after the lightjet fight Rinzler’s circuitry changes from Orange to White because the Tron program is a holdover from the original Tron system. Meaning The Grid rewrote Rinzler back into Tron after falling into the Sea of Simulation.

  • @FinalGuyKris
    @FinalGuyKris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Radical work on this vid, man!

  • @jarrettstewart1885
    @jarrettstewart1885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You messed up. When Clu stabbed him with the disc that’s what gave Tron got the scars that’s on his chest after Flynn left and that’s when Tron gave his speech saying that Flynn coming back. Clu stabbed him again he made Tron passed out.

    • @ericbazinga
      @ericbazinga  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The clip I found on youtube cut out right there. Blame Disney XD's youtube channel. But yeah I get your point

    • @notbrutustheanimator
      @notbrutustheanimator 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ericbazinga What does that have to do with anything? Flynn left before tron was approached by Dyson

    • @abdulbah2176
      @abdulbah2176 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait how wasn’t Tron derezzed?

  • @kristianpolanco8259
    @kristianpolanco8259 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Kevin should have said no to Clu.

    • @ericbazinga
      @ericbazinga  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Flynn didn't realize how Clu truly felt until now, the betrayal blindsided him

    • @kristianpolanco8259
      @kristianpolanco8259 ปีที่แล้ว

      The betrayal blindsided Kevin or Clu?

  • @kalebdoom7944
    @kalebdoom7944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    only thing that bothers me is he’s wearing his white outfit in the show but black km the movie ( that came out first)
    ans the bit about dyson kinda dosent matter because i don’t think he didn’t need to mention him

    • @ryankramer8779
      @ryankramer8779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Flynn also looks different in the Uprising version. He's not wearing his normal attire there like the other two

  • @warnoob326
    @warnoob326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ...yeah

  • @zim723kiplip3
    @zim723kiplip3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why am I waiting for his son to take the wheel

  • @maximusthewolfreborn2118
    @maximusthewolfreborn2118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In 1:28 (i’m just saying) I think in the movie he did that first finishing part and then he survived and then on uprising then the 2nd finishing part was there

  • @VCTR-nq6sx
    @VCTR-nq6sx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I tought tron was recoded, not died😔

  • @Dgutier01
    @Dgutier01 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well 4 remember the comic

  • @Lavlados
    @Lavlados ปีที่แล้ว

    Tron lives

  • @Manuel0
    @Manuel0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video

  • @ChristianGibbons777
    @ChristianGibbons777 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4 view point if, you include the Tron Betrayal visual Novel, which I have now.💙💚♥️🖤😎

  • @honeycookie5293
    @honeycookie5293 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All this time i was wondering....
    Is Tron: uprising is prequel (CANON?) to tron: legacy?

  • @SuccubiSage
    @SuccubiSage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ... eAh?

  • @turboking9238
    @turboking9238 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You think Clu is still upset about getting Derezzed in 82?

    • @ericbazinga
      @ericbazinga  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ....yea

    • @turboking9238
      @turboking9238 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ericbazinga That's just an idea that had been cooking in my brain for a while. Clu just remembered how Flynn treated him and wants revenge.

    • @ericbazinga
      @ericbazinga  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@turboking9238 Oh, I was just joking. I was quoting Flynn, just that awkward "yeah?". Nah, I'd say 1982 Clu and Legacy Clu are two separate programs, considering we saw Legacy Clu's creation.

    • @turboking9238
      @turboking9238 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ericbazinga Ohhhh, now I feel like a derp. I should have recognized that reference 🤣

    • @ryankramer8779
      @ryankramer8779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@turboking9238 not to mention that this CLU is sometimes referred to as "CLU 2" so this is definitely not the same CLU

  • @josh_miester_x511
    @josh_miester_x511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I swear this is pure De-resolution, so how is Tron alive? Can Programs be revived?

    • @facundocallepatron9557
      @facundocallepatron9557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For what i know Tron is a different program than all the others. I think maybe just maybe the battle mode protected it from the clu attack

    • @kirito8720
      @kirito8720 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In simple terms: No. The TRON system dumps the memory of derezzed programs and practically shreds their code or in the case of the Original Clu, his systems, abilities, and directives were absorbed into the old system mainframe that was put in place by ENCOM before deresolution, meaning Kevin had to completely rewrite Clu in Legacy. Clu2 hijacked Tron's disc and repurposed him when he slammed it back on Tron's back, which is why you hear that snarl that Rinzler makes. It's literally the forced repurposing creating auditory feedback. Also the derez sound is actually the sound of corruption in this case, since Clu hijacked Tron's disc. The only way that Tron returned is by falling into the Sea of Simulation since the Tron program was a holdover from the original Tron system. Meaning there was a backup somewhere in the system and the Sea of Simulation completely rewrote Rinzler back into Tron, which is way we see Rinzler's circuitry go from Orange/Red back to White.

    • @josh_miester_x511
      @josh_miester_x511 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kirito8720 awesome. Thank you so much for the explanation. I love the Tron universe but couldn't figure out how Tron survived Clu2's attack when Tron screamed. With the sounds I could've sworn he had been derezzed via a disc stab attack.

    • @kirito8720
      @kirito8720 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@josh_miester_x511 The derez sound had a crackle to it indicating that it was the inherent corruption safeguard that Clu broke through to repurpose Tron, and the cut short scream followed by the same crackle before the growl also indicated program incompatibility. And the system just had to accept the new programming since it was by a system admin.

    • @josh_miester_x511
      @josh_miester_x511 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kirito8720 in the videos, Clu2 stabs Tron in the chest, he doesn't slam the disc on to his back. Just a technicality, but I still think what your saying is mostly correct as it makes sense.

  • @joykirby
    @joykirby 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    song?

    • @ericbazinga
      @ericbazinga  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Should be "Adagio for Tron"' from the Tron Legacy OST
      th-cam.com/video/-gKrIBR83b8/w-d-xo.html

    • @joykirby
      @joykirby 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ericbazinga tenkiu bro

  • @KizaruB
    @KizaruB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The character models in Evolution are awful

    • @ericbazinga
      @ericbazinga  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      As is the voice acting. Would it kill them to have the actual actors record the lines? Instead we have characters that only remotely sound like their live action counterparts

    • @akylestyle513
      @akylestyle513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ericbazinga dont forget it was made in 2010

    • @notbrutustheanimator
      @notbrutustheanimator 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I disagree

    • @SuccubiSage
      @SuccubiSage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The models were all great imo. It's just the voice acting that wasn't good.