The collective disappointment of the knife community hearing that probably almost gave him a nosebleed. I'm not even much a steel snob but Chinese 7Cr really? Is 420HC too expensive, or even 8Cr?
I've heard people who are knife reviewers actually rave about certain knives done in 7cr, I think it all comes down to the heat treatment. I highly doubt Buck which is known for their heat treats would put a blade that doesn't hold a edge on a $60 msrp knife. I don't care for the knives but they have to pass QC to get the Buck name.
I dont understand how buck stays in business. The classics are great (love my 119 and 112) but every time they're like "we have something new and exciting" it's always something that everyone else has been doing for years in an outdated steal and they charge an arm and a leg for it. They're like the Windows Explorer of knife companies
Oh yeah, I've been anticipating DCA's take on Buck 2024:) I will already say this the newer EDC's with 7CR steel is a jaw dropper IMO, why not 420HC? JEEZ! I'm more excited about Buck's fixed blades myself.
420 is a bottom of the barrel steel as well. I can’t understand why such a legend of a knife maker continues to put out such garbage. If they sold their popular knives in 420HC as a budget option that would be one thing, but the majority of their blades are garbage as far as modern knives go and if it’s anything better than 420hc it’s ridiculously expensive just because of the name. But to each their own I suppose.
As a Buckmaster owner and huge fan, I’m disappointed in what they are calling a Buckmaster. It’s nothing like the original Buckmaster. If I saw that knife sitting on a table, the word Buckmaster would not come to mind. Either bring back the 184, or do something that truly pays tribute to the knife. Something that resembles the original, other than the name. And price it reasonably. What I see with fixed blades (this is why the Topps table is always busy), prices above $200 start running off a lot of buyers. I’ve bought a lot of Topps knives in the $120 to $140 range. I saw someone posted the 2.0 price is $800. LOL! No thanks. A nice looking tribute, maybe $400. And he kept calling the knife a dive knife. The original was never marketed as a dive knife. I have a collection of vintage and new dive knives, none of them look like the new Buck. It’s very confusing what Buck was trying to do here… And very disappointing.
Yeah, they should've just re-released the 184, if they were going to re-imagine it the least they could've done to pay homage to it is utilize the exact same blade shape/design, cross guard, and make it full tang this time around in a modern steel. Should've made 3 models. One limited run EXACTLY like the old ones, but in updated blade steel. And a re-imagined version as I previously described, same blade shape, cross guard, but full tang handle. One new re-imagined model smoothe, with flat spine. And one new version with sawback spine. Whatever that abortion they are calling a "Buckmaster" is a travesty.
Buck: why on Earth would you put a massive slot at the most stressed part of the blade? No one will _ever_ use the "anchor", and you've catastrophically weakened the blade. How did this make it through the design phase?
So much potential for a buckmaster with modern materials...swing and a miss...they couldn't make them fast enough with the original with a magnacut blade.
The guy seems professional. I own a mini Spitfire and I like a lot, real solid and quality compared to others with same features. I agree 7Cr is not a good idea, but for example that 500 Duke is simply a dream come true to me.
Buck needs to do like Pizza Hut. Go on a nostalgia trip. Absolutely forget about having knives made anywhere else other than the US. Make only classic Buck patterns (original Buckmaster included) with premium blade steels only. This new stuff looks like it would be in the bargain bin junk in the front of Tractor Supply.
The new Buckmaster will definitely be a collector item. Have you checked the price? They need to fire the designer. Years in the making? Blade steel choice? Doofy tie down? I am sticking with Esee.
The ONE Buck knife I’ve been interested in a long time, the new Buckmaster, and they make it a one year production limited to 1000 knives. Oh well, guess I’ll never physically see one let alone buy one.
yup the other ones on Ebay with the downward spikes on the handle are 1000 plus ,it looks cool but I wonder how practical it really is ,or if anyone has used it with the spikes
@@marcinos303 you know there are chinese knives that are excellent made in China is not indicative of terrible quality anymore companies like Reate and We make excellent knives for instance so I should think those imports were made in China by very low level manifacturers.
14:48.... Dave, am I seeing this correctly?? A NEW Buckmaster...a.k.a. the 2.0??? I cannot believe it. Well, you know what that means, right? I G O T T A H A V E O N E.
Watching him take 2nd seat in the dialogue was painful. You could hear all the review opinions being bitten along with his tongue. Poor guy. What a trooper! So how was that smooth opening first sweet of cheap import folders? 😅 You sir are a gentleman.
Give me the Alpha Guide 663 in 420HC with the G10 scales and the Kydex sheath. 420HC is the best steel for field use. It's cheap, tough, highly corrosion resistant, and dead easy to sharpen. You can keep the expensive exotic crucible steels.
I can tell you've never used Mangnacut. If you're cutting up your big game, your 420HC will get dull before you're done... Mangnacut will stay sharp. It also can be easily resharpened in the field unlike other CPM steels.
Proud Buck owner here; (105, 119, 124, many 110 and 112's) Gotta say, the Buckmaster was and is a joke. In the 80's a friend bought one with the intent of serious use. He found the saw back ineffective as a saw. When he dropped his knife, the tip broke off. Buck replaced the knife. Gee thanks, I'd rather have a serious knife, not a fantasy knife. The replacement sat on his shelf until he sold or lost it.. The grappling hook is farcical. Get out of mommy's basement, Buck designers.
Somebody thought it would be a good idea to put a huge hole in the middle of a combat knife blade, exponentially weakening it? Looks like Buck hired one of those Chinese designers from the '80s that used to design the barrel of $2 knives you would find at the mall.
I watched the video with Sal Glesser just before I watched this. It's obvious that Spyderco makes knives for the knife community, and Buck makes kives for uncle Randy!😂🤣
I realize that Buck can call their knives anything they want, BUT that is NOT a Buckmaster! Might be a very good knife on it's own, but it is not a Buckmaster.
Sorry I got a question about them nice but I got a boot knife and it's double bleeding and stuff how the heck you both are sharp in that because I got a knife sharpener will not the clamp will not stay on it to sharpen it and would you know how to sharpen them with a sharpener please let me know cuz I ain't no ain't no good with a diamond stone cutter or whetstone and sharpener and I got the ones that were you clamp it and it's a it's a thing you put in there where it keeps it in line to sharpen it please let me know when the best sharpener out there for a holding something like that sharp and a double edge blades please let me know thank you
They never said the 7cr knives where they are made. I smell imports. Buck needs to step up the steel in those flippers. No reversible pocket clip on the stainless steel give me a break.
That updated Buckmaster is a major disappointment! Buck obviously doesn't understand the appeal of the REAL Buckmaster. It's not supposed to be practical. Think, Rambo knife replicas, or better yet, the legendary and still, extremely popular and sought after, Randall Made Knives, Model 18, Attack Survival. It has a round, hollow handle. A modern day, REAL Buckmaster, with improved steel and some minor tweaks, would have been a best seller. Buck Knives, YOU BLEW IT!
I guess those that want to own a Buck knife like was made years ago need to find a new 110 or two and put em away for the future. I should have done that with the arkansas noviculite whet stones some years back when they were readily available and inexpensive. Shame that you can't buy plain serviceable outdoor gear anymore and not have to spend a hundred bucks on a single item
Buck is huge part of what felt me up with the love bug..... falling in love w knives!!!! But today.... unless you just love the 119 110 etc... so many other companies offer better for less. I still own and use acouple nithawks.... but they're so behind on times. Any brand w out A NAME like buck or case... just would not be a conpany. Read comments buck... make changes. Or be the change.... which is sadly gonna be change as in GONE
Its 60's predecessor, the 122 Nemo shipped with a card explaining that 440c was used because softer, higher chrome steel like isn't tough enough. Nearly 60 years later that soft steel is almost all they use. I'm sure Mr Bos is as good as it gets, but saying you've got the best 420hc heat treat for a hard use high dollar knife is a lot like saying you're the healthiest person in the ICU. It isn't impressive.
Will those 7Cr knives be showing up in Shell stations, or are they an Exxon exclusive?
😂😂😂 that's funny
It's funny because it's true.... Stop importing garbage and putting your name on it.... just diluting the Buck reputation.
🤣🤣🤣💀💀
Don't forget the week old tuna sandwich 😅
Nuthin but the best !😮
You could hear DCA's disappointment when he said 7cr
I laughed out loud when I heard that. Ohk alright
The collective disappointment of the knife community hearing that probably almost gave him a nosebleed. I'm not even much a steel snob but Chinese 7Cr really? Is 420HC too expensive, or even 8Cr?
7CR, so I can see them in a plastic clamshell package on a Walmart hook. C’mon Buck, don’t make junk 🙄
He gave the knife back immediately
I literally choked on my coffee when I heard the blade😂😂
Dude 7cr come on buck!!!
😅🎉😊😊😊 8:31 😊😮
I literally choked on my coffee when I heard the blade still on😂
I've heard people who are knife reviewers actually rave about certain knives done in 7cr, I think it all comes down to the heat treatment. I highly doubt Buck which is known for their heat treats would put a blade that doesn't hold a edge on a $60 msrp knife. I don't care for the knives but they have to pass QC to get the Buck name.
I have the buckmaster 184 original and I don't use it for anything it's just a conversation peice and I love it it's a part of history
I dont understand how buck stays in business. The classics are great (love my 119 and 112) but every time they're like "we have something new and exciting" it's always something that everyone else has been doing for years in an outdated steal and they charge an arm and a leg for it. They're like the Windows Explorer of knife companies
That is the perfect analogy. Always so late to the game with worse materials and quality. So unfortunate for a legacy brand like buck.
I like how the Buck guy had to pretend those button locks had good action.
Oh yeah, I've been anticipating DCA's take on Buck 2024:) I will already say this the newer EDC's with 7CR steel is a jaw dropper IMO, why not 420HC? JEEZ! I'm more excited about Buck's fixed blades myself.
Those 7crs are china bucks, it's probably an upgrade from non Paul Bos 420.
420 is a bottom of the barrel steel as well. I can’t understand why such a legend of a knife maker continues to put out such garbage. If they sold their popular knives in 420HC as a budget option that would be one thing, but the majority of their blades are garbage as far as modern knives go and if it’s anything better than 420hc it’s ridiculously expensive just because of the name. But to each their own I suppose.
Imports 🤦🏻 Never lead off with imports. IT'S BUCK !
Good point in fact don't mention them at all 😅
It would be so nice if you could actually see the Knife during the demonstration
I’m seeing a lot of complaints about the 7cr, what about 420HC on a $800 buckmaster??
Buck is charging a ridiculous premium for the bottom of the barrel budget Steel
Love the new Buckmaster. I purchased a black phosphated Buckmaster new back in the early 1980s and still have it in my collection
Great job Buck. The early import stuff scared me…but the USA stuff looks great. My unADVISED opinion is just keep it all US made.
(≧∇≦)b Yes!
Made in USA 🇺🇸
YES!
As a Buckmaster owner and huge fan, I’m disappointed in what they are calling a Buckmaster. It’s nothing like the original Buckmaster. If I saw that knife sitting on a table, the word Buckmaster would not come to mind. Either bring back the 184, or do something that truly pays tribute to the knife. Something that resembles the original, other than the name. And price it reasonably. What I see with fixed blades (this is why the Topps table is always busy), prices above $200 start running off a lot of buyers. I’ve bought a lot of Topps knives in the $120 to $140 range.
I saw someone posted the 2.0 price is $800. LOL! No thanks. A nice looking tribute, maybe $400. And he kept calling the knife a dive knife. The original was never marketed as a dive knife. I have a collection of vintage and new dive knives, none of them look like the new Buck. It’s very confusing what Buck was trying to do here… And very disappointing.
I have a 185LT, love that thing.
Bought my Kalinga back in 1988, and I still have it. Looks better with the Rose wood handles and brass hardware.
I have that 500 duke and it’s a beautiful knife! I added it to the 1 of 625 500 dukes I got as buck of the month for December 2023! Love my bucks 🫡❤️
Wow, could you imagine Buck bringing back out a modern Buckmaster that had the same blade as the original they would’ve probably sold out
Yeah, they should've just re-released the 184, if they were going to re-imagine it the least they could've done to pay homage to it is utilize the exact same blade shape/design, cross guard, and make it full tang this time around in a modern steel.
Should've made 3 models.
One limited run EXACTLY like the old ones, but in updated blade steel.
And a re-imagined version as I previously described, same blade shape, cross guard, but full tang handle.
One new re-imagined model smoothe, with flat spine.
And one new version with sawback spine.
Whatever that abortion they are calling a "Buckmaster" is a travesty.
Buck: why on Earth would you put a massive slot at the most stressed part of the blade? No one will _ever_ use the "anchor", and you've catastrophically weakened the blade. How did this make it through the design phase?
It's not meant to ever be used.
@@sheltermonkey6065At $800 I’d be afraid to even look at it.
Tacti-cool factor
My grandpa gave me his buckmaster and its awesome! Wonder of they will bring the original design back
When he mentions the pocket clips are reversible and/or removable and it gets you thinking... "How about the blade steel?"
So much potential for a buckmaster with modern materials...swing and a miss...they couldn't make them fast enough with the original with a magnacut blade.
Triple heat 420hc sounds pretty good but yeah for the price I wish like extra tough magnacut or something
The guy seems professional. I own a mini Spitfire and I like a lot, real solid and quality compared to others with same features. I agree 7Cr is not a good idea, but for example that 500 Duke is simply a dream come true to me.
I immediately went to buy the Buckmaster 2.0, and then I saw the $800 price tag.
ridiculous
Buck needs to do like Pizza Hut. Go on a nostalgia trip. Absolutely forget about having knives made anywhere else other than the US. Make only classic Buck patterns (original Buckmaster included) with premium blade steels only. This new stuff looks like it would be in the bargain bin junk in the front of Tractor Supply.
The OG buckmaster 184 is just too iconic
They shouldve just remaid that
i didnt know the deploys were hollow ground! super nice. want one even more now
Why a reversible clip on the Trace but not the button lock? Great thinking. Also needs a finger flipper.
The new Buckmaster will definitely be a collector item. Have you checked the price?
They need to fire the designer. Years in the making? Blade steel choice? Doofy tie down?
I am sticking with Esee.
7CR ? WTF BUCK ?
😂
I wish they would start producing the little 1.5" buck. Sometimes you just want the ability to cut, not the ability to kill a bear.
I would like to see Buck bring the Marksman back! I don’t know what it is about the Marksman, but I love that knife.
They need to cancel that production order and go back to the drawing board on that.
The ONE Buck knife I’ve been interested in a long time, the new Buckmaster, and they make it a one year production limited to 1000 knives. Oh well, guess I’ll never physically see one let alone buy one.
I am guessing, sold out in an hour.
It will be full production next year if it tue to pattern.
800.00 and not like the original at all in any way
7CR??? Why Buck why???
$799.00 for the buckmaster???? Thats a no go 4 me😂
yup the other ones on Ebay with the downward spikes on the handle are 1000 plus ,it looks cool but I wonder how practical it really is ,or if anyone has used it with the spikes
I love the duke!
Why would they go backwards with steel ?
The orange thingy reminds me of a Gerber air frame. I hate Gerber air frames.
I hate Gerber💩👍
“We have pyrite at home”
Those imports look like gas station knives. who makes them I wonder.
Chinese??? Yes. Buck Canoe the same.
@@marcinos303 you know there are chinese knives that are excellent made in China is not indicative of terrible quality anymore companies like Reate and We make excellent knives for instance so I should think those imports were made in China by very low level manifacturers.
that 500 Duke, I need/want it
The Buck 500 looks fantastic, could easily be that I pick one of those! A Gentleman should also own a gentleman’s knife 😊
Buckmasters crack me up.
402 looks like a Kalinga... Great knives, still have a few.
I'll take 2 thank you !!
The Buckmaster 2.0 is only $799.99
holy sh!t ! i thought u were joking until i looked it up, WTF i thought benchmade was crazy
What the buck dude.
14:48....
Dave, am I seeing this correctly?? A NEW Buckmaster...a.k.a. the 2.0??? I cannot believe it. Well, you know what that means, right? I G O T T A H A V E O N E.
Lol I have heard Don Shipleys take on the Buckmaster and I'm surprised they brought them back lol
Watching him take 2nd seat in the dialogue was painful. You could hear all the review opinions being bitten along with his tongue. Poor guy. What a trooper!
So how was that smooth opening first sweet of cheap import folders? 😅
You sir are a gentleman.
Give me the Alpha Guide 663 in 420HC with the G10 scales and the Kydex sheath. 420HC is the best steel for field use. It's cheap, tough, highly corrosion resistant, and dead easy to sharpen. You can keep the expensive exotic crucible steels.
I can tell you've never used Mangnacut. If you're cutting up your big game, your 420HC will get dull before you're done... Mangnacut will stay sharp. It also can be easily resharpened in the field unlike other CPM steels.
Lotta cope in your post.
Proud Buck owner here; (105, 119, 124, many 110 and 112's) Gotta say, the Buckmaster was and is a joke. In the 80's a friend bought one with the intent of serious use. He found the saw back ineffective as a saw. When he dropped his knife, the tip broke off. Buck replaced the knife. Gee thanks, I'd rather have a serious knife, not a fantasy knife. The replacement sat on his shelf until he sold or lost it.. The grappling hook is farcical. Get out of mommy's basement, Buck designers.
I love that akanua!
1988. Buckmaster or Gerber BMF? I went for The BMF. That I sold to a pal a few years later.
Somebody thought it would be a good idea to put a huge hole in the middle of a combat knife blade, exponentially weakening it? Looks like Buck hired one of those Chinese designers from the '80s that used to design the barrel of $2 knives you would find at the mall.
Bring back the original Buckmaster please!
Why is buck comin off with imported first in vid when buck is a usa namebrand
Great I have the original buck master got it when I was 13 now I need the new one
You can have it for $799.99
7cr??? Out of touch? Stupid? Being run by bean counters? Come on, Buck!
Why is the buck 084 diver $800?? It's 420HC
Thank you for posting. Dunno. I'll stick with my small collection of 110's, and my trusty 119. For serious social work I'll go with my Gerber Mk II.
i have a 119 in magnacut. im very interested in the hunt line and the autos. buck takes my income.
That is NOT a Buckmaster.
Seriously, that is a slap in the face and should have been called something else
Make an axis lock 110
7cr come on buck are you trying to set a record or something? This year from buck knives to make you practice your sharpening
The only thing Buck could have done worse than using 7cr is go back to using 420J2. Dear Buck, from a one time fan. Are you trying to not compete?
I watched the video with Sal Glesser just before I watched this.
It's obvious that Spyderco makes knives for the knife community, and Buck makes kives for uncle Randy!😂🤣
I bet Uncle Randy's knives get more use...
Is “imported” short for “made in China”?
funny part is there are alot of good "made in China" knives out there. it looks like Buck made sure their imports were crap.
I realize that Buck can call their knives anything they want, BUT that is NOT a Buckmaster! Might be a very good knife on it's own, but it is not a Buckmaster.
Yeah 7cr is a let down...at least give us more 154cm... That seems to be the new go to for affordable pocket knives right now
The Camera Man Is Calling you Both Nasty Names in his Head RN
Sorry I got a question about them nice but I got a boot knife and it's double bleeding and stuff how the heck you both are sharp in that because I got a knife sharpener will not the clamp will not stay on it to sharpen it and would you know how to sharpen them with a sharpener please let me know cuz I ain't no ain't no good with a diamond stone cutter or whetstone and sharpener and I got the ones that were you clamp it and it's a it's a thing you put in there where it keeps it in line to sharpen it please let me know when the best sharpener out there for a holding something like that sharp and a double edge blades please let me know thank you
That 112 TRX is a sweet looking knife for a grown mans EDC
What does that even mean? lol.
@@TheTrueNorth11 what does what mean? You see those shiny 7cr knives? My comment wouldn't includes those.
@@Toyotas_n__Tools ok guy
@@TheTrueNorth11 hope I didn't upset you
Camera didn't allow a view of the table.......bah
this got more and more unhinged as it went on
7cr hope those are 19.99 or less. Gas station knives are 7cr steel.
Notice the grinds on the Buckmaster?? Doesn’t even come close to lining up with the tip of the blade - and they used that as their show piece?! WTF
I’d use the buck as a hori hori
7cr... what a joke lol
7cr? Buck's new offerings in partnership with Huusk apparently....
Buck should remember what America is all about. Make your folders with CTS HXP. USA steel.
That buckmaster dagger"s grinds are wrecked. Definitely not worth the money unless they get that fixed.
RIGHT?? The fact that they used that for a show piece is mind boggling and makes me think the quality control over at Buck is nonexistent.
They never said the 7cr knives where they are made. I smell imports. Buck needs to step up the steel in those flippers. No reversible pocket clip on the stainless steel give me a break.
It's called " the import line" ...
Just bring back 184. For a company whose bread and butter are 110 and 119, they sure don't get what the majority of consumers want from them.
1000!!? Gone in an hour.
Three hours later, and there are still plenty of them...
That updated Buckmaster is a major disappointment! Buck obviously doesn't understand the appeal of the REAL Buckmaster. It's not supposed to be practical. Think, Rambo knife replicas, or better yet, the legendary and still, extremely popular and sought after, Randall Made Knives, Model 18, Attack Survival. It has a round, hollow handle. A modern day, REAL Buckmaster, with improved steel and some minor tweaks, would have been a best seller. Buck Knives, YOU BLEW IT!
lol.. after that lawsuit, he made sure to point out the sheath was made in usa, haha
$900 for a buckmaster? 😮
I guess those that want to own
a Buck knife like was made
years ago need to find a new
110 or two and put em away
for the future.
I should have done that with
the arkansas noviculite whet
stones some years back when
they were readily available and
inexpensive.
Shame that you can't buy plain
serviceable outdoor gear
anymore and not have to spend a hundred bucks on a
single item
Buck making actual gas station knives now but with crappier materials.
Wow... It's new ... as in PU
Emergency Anchor Weight - At least they are honest about the level of usefulness.
Buck is huge part of what felt me up with the love bug..... falling in love w knives!!!!
But today.... unless you just love the 119 110 etc... so many other companies offer better for less.
I still own and use acouple nithawks.... but they're so behind on times. Any brand w out A NAME like buck or case... just would not be a conpany.
Read comments buck... make changes. Or be the change.... which is sadly gonna be change as in GONE
Buck can't say they brought back the original that is falls advertisement it is a completely different model ..
First knife is 7cr... wtf? Come on Buck do better.
i really want to like buck....but they make it so hard too
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Buck is making gas station knives now... WTF?
$800 for a 420hc knife😐
Its 60's predecessor, the 122 Nemo shipped with a card explaining that 440c was used because softer, higher chrome steel like isn't tough enough.
Nearly 60 years later that soft steel is almost all they use.
I'm sure Mr Bos is as good as it gets, but saying you've got the best 420hc heat treat for a hard use high dollar knife is a lot like saying you're the healthiest person in the ICU. It isn't impressive.
C'mon Buck! When I heard 7cr I looked up thinking this was the Gerber booth! It's 2024, 7cr should only be a thing in gas station knives! 🙄
Wished Buck’s website was professionally designed.
That new Buckmaster should not share the same name with the original.
It should be named Mallmaster.
It looks like something out of a BudK catalog.
Come on Buck, we wanted the original Buckmaster, no a V2. Disappointed…