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Personally I think a lot of people associate "knight in shining armor" with good guys in fantasy & black leather outfits with bad guys. xD
Fair.
@@HannaHsOverInvested It just shows how we have multiple different biases for the same things. :)
There are plenty of tropes that shape our interpretations of fiction (and reality). A whole library of cliques, flags and shorthand cues that tell us "that's the evil temptress" and "something bad is about to happen".
It is why modern movies keep getting faster and faster.
@@crapstirrer totally. I saw the "sexy woman" on first because I am more sensitive to that (as you all of course know! haha) But there were multiple. Looking back at it, the colours are a huge one.
@@crapstirrer Oh yeah, modern movies have awful pacing imho.
13:25 You also probably assumed she was the bad guy because:
-Her colours were Red and Black (a colour combo associated with bad guys), while He was wearing Blue and White (Associated with good guys)
-She was dressed in rogue-ish attire while wielding Daggers (The Criminal Look), and he was dressed in a knightly fashion, wielding a large sword (Fantasy Law Enforcement Look)
-You literally see the fight from his side first
-She fought in a tricky manner, using hidden weapons and magic; he fought in a very straight-forward manner, using only his one obvious, large weapon
Not trying to invalidate your point, but they did very well to let you know who you're supposed to root for.
Well, as someone who used to play league of legends back in the day, I can give a quick warning that most of the early cinematics are fighting and general cool badassness, but the later ones (probably the second half of the 2 hour video) are more story-driven ones.
That's good to know.
@@HannaHsOverInvested to add on the original story has very much evolved from what it used to be. There was a lot of tweaks to characters and re-changes of characters lore and backstory.
@@LordStrom1 I'll keep watching!
@@HannaHsOverInvested I'm excited to see your reaction. Because they do get better overall in quality across the board. Your happy face bring me much joy.
old cinematics kinda shitty, can't wait to see some league music videos and story based cartoons )
Thanks!
Ok... LOL... This going to be kinda long...
First: the early videos put out by riot games are more "fighty fighty" without too much of a story (right know, riot is trying to make every video canon to the lore)
Second: if there is a bad guy in LOL you can say is a "region" called The Void, its a mirrored universe that wants to consume and destroy everything. but there is a variety of bad guys that go doing machiavelics plans or simply go causing chaos and havock.
Third: right now the world and lore of LOL is divided in regions. The sexy assassin lady is from noxus, a conquering driven empire. The white knight man is from demacia, a "goody" and very hypocrite kingdom. they are majority good unless you are a mage. Right now they are during a civic war between the racist government and the minority mages.
Fourth: the sexualization of the characters. That's a problem in every games that some are working to end that, but, casual misogyny is a thing. Riot is making more practical yet sexy design for women, and they kinda realised that it's impossible to get rid of the sexy woman thing, so lately the solution that they found was give us sexy guys to compensate.
Fifth: riot is getting better on their cinematic game, but if you ask me, they are better doing music videos.
Sixth: you will notice that a lot of settings of the videos will not match. These are skin trailers cinematics. Riot treats them as parallel universes to the main one.
Seventh (?): Lore. The lore of LOL is very... Complicated? There are a lot of things happening, and most of them has nothing to do with the other. Every region has its own problems and sometimes they cross. think about game of thrones or literally our world (?) In a sense. its just a very fuck up world where people are trying to live with literally gods, demons, aliens, monsters and magic.
I think that's all.
Kisses from Brazil, cause brazilians never shut up about where they are from sometimes
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HAHAHAH sexy guys to compensate! I laughed out loud when I read that!
Love from Canada cause we also never shut up about where we are from!
@communist Teletubby I'm happy you wore this.
And the Darkins, (expecially Aatrox)Xerath, Mordekaiser, and the Watchers are the threats in the whole Runeterra.
Just a add-up
i barely made it through your 2nd point LOL
Sexy woman with red hair in a dark leather outfit that resembles an assassin vs a "knight in shining armor" is probably the reason people can tell which is good or bad.
Exactly... I never thought anyone would process the good or bad by gender.
"There are no good or badguys?"
If there ever was a sentence capable of making nerds go to war with eachother it would be game factions, who is right and who is wrong.
14:00 i think its more the color scheme. since always, silver/blue has been the royalty good guy colors, while black/red have been the bad-guys colors.
" that looks dirty. It looks like you're going to cat something with that" lol basically its one of his abilities called infected clever 🤣
"Why do I think she is the bad guy?"
Movies have taught us that characters dressed in black are the bad guys, and guys in white are good. And even though there are exceptions, like the Matrix, this is still true today and a common trick in character design.
This is correct, if white male was wearing black plate and she had white leather it'd look the opposite
Not to mention the red hair. Ever since Ganondorf from the first Legend of Zelda, black clothes and firelike red hair have been synonymous with evil characters.
In this case I just saw them as a knight (representing order) and a rogue (representing freedom). Both of those can be either good or bad so without any further information about their motivations everything is in a morally grey area.
Agreed, this is not a race or gender thing
Everything is a race or gender thing. But I also understand and agree with the other things mentioned here.
I make a hobby out of searching for league of legend reactors and I got to say you are the first one to call my attention right from the channel welcoming into. I have too many words and very little time to express how much I enjoyed your charisma and your approach to all the different topics mentioned, I'm looking forward for more. May all you future endeavors be satisfying and prosperous.
PS. its a great bonus that one of the best league reactors I have yet to find, you (personal opinion at least), is a writer as well. For the one dream that keeps me awake at night is writing a book, unexpectedly so with the little amount of effort I have placed in doing so for the last 10 years since I first felt like this. Regardless, I believe your channel is indeed a rewarding discovery in more ways than one.
i don't know about sexy women bad, white man good, it's just a pre asuption and has more to do with the outfites of each one, wich really are stereotipes of their clasees... the man it's a paladin, the woman it's an assassin, there are no good, bad side in the game, the are just 2 team compiting with each other,
Exploring internal bias' and social norms and stereotypes is important... as I said.
To be fair, garen is good guy ( well, was until rito started changing lore) and katarina is baddy ( assasin from "evil" faction ). Ye ye, noxus is still bad guys.
It could be that sexy woman bad white male good on what tipped off about who was good or bad absolutely. Personally I think it was the color coding of the characters Black and Red vs Blue and Gold.
Ohhh yes. It def could have been that too. But there was something! 🤣🤣
@@HannaHsOverInvested lol im sure it's a bit a mix but it it's interesting how ingrained that judgement really is
Garen is the quintessential paladin and he totally looks the part too. Paladins are good right? And whoever he's fighting, must be bad.
Of course in LoL, there are no good and bad, just two sides to a symmetric contest to destroy the opposing team's base and each character can appear in either team.
In Wow, you can play PVE (player vs environment) or PVP (player vs player). PVP is played in battlegrounds where one team takes on another. In LoL, it's all PVP. Serious PVP players typically play LoL.
Health heals your damage and mana restores your magical capabilities.
I kind of followed that.
@@HannaHsOverInvested Both modes require players to work together as a team and typically you are only as good as your weakest link.
Not sure if you are aware, but top players in ESports make seven figure incomes.
League of Legends has some of the best music designers in the industry, and their video quality for the cinematics keeps getting better. That whole community is insanely large and very engaged. It's much bigger in Asia than even here in the U.S. They host a huge tournament with teams from all around the world once a year. It's actually going on right now! It's the League of Legends World Championship (or "Worlds" for short). They are massive affairs most years, drawing stadium sellout size crowds. Before the games, they usually have some sort of musical intro act, and they've just been stepping up the production quality every year. Last year they went full live holograms on stage levels of crazy. You should make sure you check out some of the musical stuff they've made after the standard game trailers.
They even made a virtual KPOP group called K/DA that has a full album coming next year.
They get much better and then they start making music videos and they get crazy good. Can’t wait to see more.
I would say the "social experiment" you talked about with bad guy or not is more likely to be because of the colors. Blue, gold and silver are taught to be like royal and good colors while red, black and similar colors are like villainous colors.
Totally possible.
K don't worry about Morgana, the black angel lady with the uncomfortable pushup bra for battle. As the game as updated, she along with every other female character in the game as received more practical clothing. Not everything is perfect and some actually use their looks to their advantage. But I promise it get better lol
That's great!
It's the games lore:
Garen is the typical knight in shining armor who represents his party: Demacia, a nation that stands for honor and nacionalism.
And Katarina is a rogue assasin that's from their main enemy faction: Noxus, a nation that stands for strenght at all costs and value only through shown strenght.
Oh man, I've been waiting for this series. Stick with this and it gets even better.
I will!
Please do continue watching them cause this video is showing you the trailers chronologically, the way they came out, and you're only now getting to the good ones :D
I will. I might skip some tho.
If you are getting into league of legends i recommend watching annies origin story, tells you how she became who she is. (the girl with the stuffed bear). Its a really good short animation with unique art style that teaches you about the champion.
I liked her!
Ususally when it comes to character design, Black and Red is the fastest way to know if they’re the bad guys, red meaning danger and black just straight up means evil. Black and red color is a very basic pallette yet it works so well. Same goes when it comes to spikey character design, if its pointy then they’re dangerous.
:O You watched it??? Thank you so much!!! But they're in chronological order in the video, and the old videos were kind of crappy? The game was released in 2009 and the animation wasn't on the same level it is now... And the lore was different... I would really like it if you watched recent ones too (I'm guessing you will eventually, but I hope you don't give up after the first few) T.T
Like: "Tales of Runeterra: Bilgewater | “Double-Double Cross”" (it's funny),
"Awaken (ft. Valerie Broussard) | Season 2019 Cinematic - League of Legends" and
"Warriors | Season 2020 Cinematic - League of Legends (ft. 2WEI and Edda Hayes)" which both feature a couple of characters and their stories.
Also "K/DA - POP/STARS (ft. Madison Beer, (G)I-DLE, Jaira Burns) | Music Video - League of Legends" is a legit kpop/American pop collab with a cool animated video of the characters from the game cosplaying as kpop stars.
Also I agree with you about female armor... In the game it's important to show what kind of character each of them is... There are over 150 different champions in the game that you can play, and everyone has different abilities and is either tank, assassin, fighter, bruiser, enchanter, mage, marksman, etc., so they made their outfits show what type of champion they are (not always, but almost always). For example Leona is a tank support, really hard to kill, so she has golden armor all around her body. And Morgana (shown in the video) is a mage support with a lot of crowd control (stuns, roots, disabling enemy champions) and she's squishy, easy to kill, so she doesn't have that much armor. I do completely agree with you though, as a woman who plays games, it gets annoying seeing female warriors in games dressed in straps of clothes that don't serve a purpose, aside from showing as much of their body as possible.
When you die in the game, you respawn in your base. So they showed that.
It's true, there are no real bad guys. The game is of a MOBA genre, it stands for Multiplayer Online Battle Arena, and every game 2 teams of 5 players compete against each other, so this reflects two teams battling. In the lore which is up for interpretation, you can make judgement which side you like or don't like, although all sides have good reasons for what they're doing, even Noxus that's always waging war on other nations.
About the girl with red hair you thought was a bad guy, she's called Katarina, she's an assassin from Noxus, she's fighting Garen, a king's guard from Demacia with a big sword who's compensating hah. They're actually lovers, but a bit of a Romeo and Juliet story, as their nations are at war. Both Noxus and Demacia have good and bad sides. Noxus is conquering neighbouring kingdoms and asserting their rule, but they've destroyed unjust kingdoms and brought democracy, it can be seen in a short cinematic called "League of Legends - Tales of Runeterra Noxus Cinematic Trailer | “After Victory”". Demacia is full of good people, but they're discriminatory against mages, they're afraid of them because people were killed by mages before, so they hunt mages and imprison them, they are kind of racist (I think it's a parallel to racism in real world) against mages, like people are racist to elves in Witcher world.
About the little girl with a teddy bear, she's a fire mage called Annie. And there is an amazing cinematic about her origin story called "ANNIE: Origins | League of Legends", it has a beautiful art direction and it can pull on your heartstrings a bit.
I'm really grateful that you gave League of Legends a chance, and I hope you continue to watch the cinematics, and I'll be looking forward to it!
Also loved your shirt.
Most people already explained most things about the cinematics. However one cool little detail is that the girl with the red hair and the guy in shiny armor are in a non-official romeo-juliet relationship.
(for people who're gonna say no where in the lore says that, it's in the Legends of Runeterra interactions, which have been confirmed FULL CANON)
Excelente video, ver tu reacción a los videos antiguos de lol me alegraron el domingo y solamente tu podrías salir con un pensamiento sobre como vemos a las personas como los "malos" en los videos. En términos generales gracias por hacer tan buenos videos.
I loved that you did this! Great video
These old ones are so painfull to watch oh my god
this was bad ass stuff back then man!
I'd like to see you react to K/DA - POP/Stars (ft. Madison Beer, (G)I-DLE - Both the Music Video and their Live performance (Music video first). It's League of Legends related
Ahhhh.... do you think that is something that I will connect with??? Did you see what happened when I watched a Witcher related song?
Their music videos and tournament animations are impressive.
I'll post the link to the video I'm watching when I upload the next part of this do you guys can tell me how far to skip ahead.
Katarina, the one in black leather, is probably looked at as the baddie because she is in black leather, but also the black and red colour scheme is seen as evil. Even though Noxus (the empire she belongs to) is seen as evil even though they just have a different outlook. Also she could be thought of as evil because she is an assassin fighting a knight
League of legends videos for Annie and Amumu, might bring tears to your eyes.
watching her react to annie in this cinematic knowing the devastation thats coming when she gets to the new one :')
You'll see how much they improved their cinematics lol
God I forgot how bad were the early cinematics for this lmao. On a side note I think you would enjoy the Tales of Runeterra series of videos for League of Legends, they are little 3 minutes "slice of life" short stories for some characters and for the various regions and cultures. (They are not included in the video you are watching since they are pretty recent).
They are:
Tales of Runeterra: Demacia | “Before Glory”
Tales of Runeterra: Freljord | “The Raid”
Tales of Runeterra: Shadow Isles | “None Escape”
Tales of Runeterra: Noxus | “After Victory”
Tales of Runeterra: Piltover and Zaun | “True Genius”
Tales of Runeterra: Ionia | “The Lesson”
Tales of Runeterra: Bilgewater | “Double-Double Cross”
Tales of Runeterra: Targon | “The Vaulted Road”
"Only a few will become legends"
...fast forward to over 150 champions later.
great video im here for league of legends, continue this the recent cinematic are so madness
I have some more old.ones I've already watched, then on to the new ones. I'm gonna skip some.
@@HannaHsOverInvested i'll be waiting for, than you :)
Why is it always about gender and the color of the skin lately? The perception of good and evil was affected by the clothing of the characters. One is dressed as an assassin while the other as a knight. In case their armor is swapped audience would have thought that a man is a villain and a woman is a hero. Simple as that.
If you've only been talking about race and gender lately, I would say you are lucky that those two things don't directly effect your life.
Because you’re watching a closeted racist/sexist who’s expressing those parts of her personality by pretending to be the exact opposite. Also she seems very insecure about her own body, regularly getting intimidated by fictional character’s looks. She fails to understand the target demographics for the advertised products, wich are mainly 10-18 year old boys and older sad men (at least back in the day when most of those games where made), are drawn to these over sexualized images of females. I started watching her with her first wow reaction because I always love to see people who aren’t involved with gaming culture discovering this whole new world of fiction. But I quickly realized the annoying focus on politics and social justice bs. So now I just check in from time to time when I want a good laugh. And Hannah if you would stop projecting race and gender into everything you’d see that way less things in live actually revolve around those topics. I’m an african who grew up in Germany and struggled a lot with my sexuality growing up with a single mom. Just added the last part because apparently you are not allowed to make reasonable arguments if you haven’t faced some form of discrimination.
@Noah Elsayed There is nothing closeted about it. I believe everyone, including myself, is racist and sexist. I practice anti-racism. That is not the same thing as saying I’m not racist.
Of course I am insecure with my body. I would like very much like to have an in-depth conversation with any woman who isn’t. Maybe she could teach me how to ignore how society has treated the female body. That said, my insecurity has nothing to do with the impracticality of clothing, or over sexualization of female characters in gaming. It’s been in my life much longer than game trailers have.
You fail to understand that not only the target demo is gaming, and maybe if that target demo hadn’t been exclusionary, a larger number of women would have been gaming a long time ago.
You also fail to understand how damaging unrealistic and over-sexualized images of bodies, male or female, can be. Or maybe you just don’t care.
Either way, thanks for commenting, as it helps promote my annoyingly political social justice bs😃😃
Feel free to keep checking in for a good laugh. It helps my view count, and I’m happy you’re smiling.
And Noah, if you would stop telling me how to act or be in my own space, that would be much appreciated. You don’t have to be here. That is your choice, just like commenting on things I find important is my choice. We don’t have to agree.
Thank you for telling me a bit about yourself. It helps me to understand that just because you are part of a marginalized community, doesn’t mean you are empathetic towards it, or other marginalized communities. This is a valuable lesson for me.
Thank you.
@@Noahelsayed Here's a reasonable argument: not everyone's experiences in life are the same as yours. It's great - truly great - that you grew up in a European country and didn't have to deal with as much open discrimination as we deal with on the opposite side of the ocean. That's awesome for you. That's your experience. Just because you've had it, doesn't mean someone else hasn't had the exact opposite. Maybe if you want your opinions to be valued, try accepting and valuing those of others instead of dismissing them as seeking social justice? Also - since when has wanting social justice (ie. equal and fair treatment) become bullshit? Why do people use the term as though it's an insult? It says more about you than it does about the person you're talking about that the idea of equal treatment offends you.
Teyon Alexander yeah didn’t have to deal with open discrimination just getting beat up by nazis randomly on the street, sentenced much harder than my friends for committing the same crime and getting bullied by teachers. Keep thinking that Europe is this fairy tale land.
Oh wow, I haven't even seen half of these
The newer videos go into expanding the lore a bit.
It’s funny rewatching these older videos. Half these characters don’t even look the way they did anymore.
Oh that's interesting that the look changed. I'll keep watching for a while at least. Maybe skip ahead to some newer ones.
HannaH's Over Invested btw the girl in the dark leather with the daggers and the guy with the big ass sword are both neither the good guy nor bad guy.
Girl is from a place called Noxus where they like to conquer neighboring lands and value strength above all else. They’re all really super edgy but apparently colonizing isn’t a capital crime.
Guy is from a city state that’s basically supposed to be the opposite called Demacia. They’re all about order and justice and whatnot but are actually a little dictatorial in some ways. They don’t like the use of magic so anyone caught using it is immediately imprisoned.
If metal bikinis are armor, that raises some questions about Return of the Jedi.
hahahahah for what Leia was intended to do, I wouldn't say her outfit was impractical, but def uncomfortable. and like..... cold.
@@HannaHsOverInvested Winter must be hell in generic fantasy worlds.
You know what you should watch at a random time? The fallout 4 special videos
Thank you!
13:29 I think she is the bad guy because she is wearing black and is an assassin like a spy or something like this, meanwhile the other guy has a shining armor and looks like the generic paladin (usually the good guys), from every video game with this thematic
As to social thought experiement. Katarina is an assassin and is essentially on the side of NOXUS or the noxian empire which is known for more or less, gain what you kill. On the one hand noxians will conquer and have public executions, but on the other hand if there is for example a king with slaves, tehy will destroy that entire empire and give the slaves a chance to buiild themselves up and become something instead of having to kneel to anyone. She works closesly with Darius who is the king of noxus.
GAREN is the big dude in the armor whos a leading general for the armies of Demacia, who, even though theyre all about peace of justice, Demacia has also gathered up people who use magic and put them in jail for it, both sides have shitty aspects and good.
If youre looking for the truely evil characters, there are void entities, old gods, dimensional creatures, and evil scientists who all enjoy killing and murder and torture etc.
However most of the arguably evil entities are some sort of physical monstrosity. Katarina is hot but even knowing the lore i dont find myself rooting for either one more or less. I was very against the noxian empire until i found out they free slaves which is something demacia has failed to do even to their own people. Not to mention garen being a demcaian general, when his own sister is a mage. something she could have been imprisoned for.
for great story watch "Annie Origins" league of legends cinematic
I think the way we percieve the good o bad guys/gals in games and movies has more to do with (of course how we are raised but also) color psychology, red is often percieved as danger or warning, and the bad is most commonly pictured with dark colors, meanwhile the light colors are often related to good things so, Katarina having red hair and wearing dark clothes give us that sensation of danger, while Garen having brown hair and wearing white, silver and blue colors gives us a sensation of security and goodness.
You're still in the chaotic part of LoL cinematics. At this point in time, there wasn't yet a well established lore, so there is no sense to make out of this situations. As you guessed, this is romanticized gameplay. And to avoid boring you with a full lore dump: there are bad guys, and alot of okay/not so bad guys. Many factions exist, there is no two side war like in Warcraft, and you will only see glimpses of it even in the later, more structured cinematics. Most of the info are found in short written stories anyway.
On the social experiment bit, your position is interesting. I hadn't thought of taking into account the "sexy women are bad/ white men are good" aspect, probably because I'm a white dude. True, society scorn a woman who doesn't cover up "properly", but in this case, the character design itself play an important part.
Katarina is dressed in spiky gear, use vicious looking daggers, and is color coded in red and jet black. Both color have negatives conotations in western culture. The sexy part do come into play tho, since her wild and almost playful way of moving set her as someone who is not taking the situation seriously. She is an aggressive and disrespectful individual, or rather, is presented as such.
On the other hand, Garen is focused and serious, wich are attitude traits seen as "good". He is color coded in gold, white and blue, all "regal" colors associated with more peaceful or laudable themes or traits. He's burly yet groomed, violent yet serious. He is, by all means, presented to us like Superman would be. A strong, focused white man with a mission for justice. Wich is pretty close to the truth, he's a simple character.
But since you get 15 seconds of video to learn to know this characters, everything must be clear from the get go. Garen good, Garen fighting Katarina, so Katarina bad.
Will think on my personal biases tho.
im too old for this wtf not expecting this
Im glad you already knew that yes those were features you can use and yes their are no bad guys only like the light order and the heavy one with differences on how something should be ruled and or land wise fight an power so i mean in a way you choose who you personally wanna consider bad but in the end they have a heart for others and respect for some like the opposing side etc its def heavy on story to decide which in a way is a great way to bring intrigue an attention to the game while leaving the gameplay aspect to speak for itself for those who may not be story driven but more mmo gameplay so it covers both aspects pretty well in my opinion and glad you give this game a try and time because i love it more then "WoW" but just my opinion still like it too
U can think that Kat is the bad guy because she is using daggers against a Knight. We ussually think that daggers were used by bad ppl in the medieval ages and the knigts will always use a sword and fight for justice.
And also we are used to asociate the outfit colors: Blue & Silver= good guy / Red & Black=bad guy
I love your reaction to this! The comments about female armors or Garen overcompensating something with his long sword made me laugh so hard :D
🤣🤣🤣🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 thank you ❤️❤️
Gaming mentality: Red hair, dual knives, impractical black leather armor... Probably a Bad Guy(Gal)
Reality: There is no good or bad just Winners and losers.
Ha. A sad truth.
im late, but...the red head and the big sword guy are enemies in love
If it's any consolation, experts on (medieval) armor have huge gripes about "female armor" as it is often depicted in games and movies/tv-shows. What it actually looked like historically? Just like the men's armor.
Actually, experts on armor usually have huge gripes about how armor is depicted in games, movies, and tv-shows - period. :)
Yea I bet they do! Because all modern depictions would align with modern fashion and beauty trends.
You dont have to be an expert to see that an exposed mid section isnt very practical.
@@dud5606 hahahah this made me laugh out loud.
I wont say I don't appreciate an exposed midsection. I like to think I rock the crop top... but I'm not fighting anyone! hahah not physically at least.
Colors can give off a lot of feeling so with katarina she has red hair with dark clothing giving off a very dangerous vibe. This is in contrast with garen with his light silver gold and blue.
agreed.
The reason why you might think that lady was a villan character might be the color choices for the character? The colors red and black are the most common colors to use to identify villan characters, and she wears a black outfit and has red hair. Maybe that is why you saw her as a villain? Just guessing. 😺 BTW, love your reaction videos, keep it up!
More people think shiny armor good black armor bad, but in truth both sides are bad and those two love each other even though they are from opposing kingdoms. Its cute rlly
Morgana, the purple girl with the impractical bra actually has better armour now that she is reworked, but I haven’t really checked so don’t quote me on that.
The side that you root for... IS THE SIDE STAND ON!!!
Well I had comment on a previous video, but it seems you already started your League journey! Lmaoo Can't wait to see your reactions for the others
Yes! Being posted today!
ok, there are a couple of things to clarify. World of League of Legends is divided into diffrent regions. The world itself is called Runeterra and it consists of Demacia - kingdom with honorable values, and it was fighting Noxus, a kingdom that values strenght and power above all else. There is also Ionia, you could compare it to asian countries and culture (it was also fighting Noxus). There are shadow isles inhabited by undead. Freljord that is run by clans and is located in frosty mountains. Piltover and Zaun, two city-states focused on science and technology. In order to stop wars and bloodshed powerful mages created an arena where you can summon champions to fight in a controlled enviroment, where nobody can die, and instead be respawned in a certain period of time (not aliens ;) ). Each character has his/hers/its own bio so it would take a lot of writing.
The other thing is that every ability that's shown in those cinematics is in the game (more or less at least)
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This game has gotten a lot better about their designs with female characters, and that's something I'm really glad about. There are still some character designs and art that are pointlessly sexualized, but overall it's way better than before where every female character had this tiny waist and giant boobs and a horribly skimpy or impractical outfit. It's a really nice improvement to see in a medium that still has a long-standing issue with female characters.
I think most of the other commenters have covered a lot of what I'd say, but yeah. These are very early promotional cinematics, long before the idea of putting a story in your 'ads' was the norm in video games. Long, self contained stories in cinematics like this is honestly fairly new, excluding Blizzard who had the vision of pre rendered cinematics being a 'reward' for players and a way to show off important story information in an easily digestible way.
The commentary about Katarina being seen as a bad guy is interesting. Back when this cinematic was released, there was a valid argument of 'Noxus = bad, Damacia = good'. The 'evil' characters had hooks and dark colours, while the 'good' characters were more heavenly in their colour and armour designs. However this lore doesn't translate to the actual gameplay at all, as the ten players build their team based on mechanics which have absolutely nothing to do with the writing behind the characters. The lore exists entirely outside of the game, and acts as one of seven psychological 'hooks' that gets players invested in games like this (character design is the first hook IE finding a character you can relate to through either their looks, their ethnicity, their voice etc).
There's multiple books and studies done on the psychology around this. 'Getting Gamers' by Jamie Madigan is a good read if this sort of thing interests you at all.
This is a round about way of saying that Katarina's design is entirely meant to paint her as an antagonist, just like Garen's design is meant to make him look like a protagonist. It goes far deeper than just gender, everything about them is meant to paint them in a particular light as they were poster children for the brand - you had to quickly and easily communicate to someone with 0 context who they were for marketing. At least until a few years ago when Riot overhauled a lot of their older designs to turn everything into shades of grey as well as dial down the sex appeal, or at least make it more tasteful.
4:22 I imagine the people that argued back at you must have been children.... at least mentally they were children. All it takes, even as a dude, is running track for a race. If you aren't wearing compressor shorts, or sports bras, singlets, idk whatever, things bounce around... a lot
The terrible quality of some of those OG cinematics is probably due to the fact that riot games was an indie developer at this point, the cinematic you ended on is the start of a huge growth of quality. you’re definitely going to enjoy the rest of them going forward, their music videos are also phenomenal for the most part
I did enjoy the next bit, posting on Sunday, but after that, I'm gonna skip ahead a bit. Someone sent me some links.
I feel that she is seen as a bad guy because work the darker and red tones with her clothing and hair,Stacking a more good related color like white and gold,I also associate her with bad because she is an assassin from an inside game faction called noxus,Who are the bad guys
Also you should check the most new league of legends series about legend of runeterra,It tells better and coherent histories
Well, i think the reason we associate katarina, the red haired chick as bad is because she wears black (secrecy and stuff), has an assassins fighting style (spoiler she is an assassin) and has thissmug attitude. Also she is a noxian, and noxus was at least back then considered the bad guys. Only recently league of legends rewrote mich of its lore and made the regions much more complex and in my opinion, better.
At 13:48 when you were asking and explaining why you thought the woman was the "bad guy" you made some very good points. I just want to add that there have been multiple psychological studies revolving around the colors RED and BLUE, especially in sports. Turns out that subconsciously humans tend to associate the color RED with danger, violence, bad, blood when seen in nature. Her having RED hair and BLACK clothing is meant to give you the sense that she is a "bad guy" or dangerous. Respectively BLUE has been subconsciously associated with intelligence, calm, cool. I mention this because turns out these studies have also reported that in both sports and video games, teams that have the color RED in their uniforms have more wins overall than teams that have BLUE as their team colors in sports/video games that involve violence, fighting, aggressive competition. In sports/video games that require more strategy, thinking, waiting the opposite has be seen. Petitions in the past have come out to ban these two colors as team colors in order to remove the advantage they tend to give but I have never heard of one succeeding.
Love your reactions. Can't wait till the next one. Is there some place (discord, or forum) where we can make video game suggestions for you to react to? I believe you once said that you had a friend of yours vet all suggestions to see if they are worth your time. How can I get my suggestions to this person? (if it wasnt you im sorry, might have been another react channel). Love you! :D
Omg that is so interesting! Thank you, I had t heard that before. Maybe I'll be able to find a podcast on that study.
Someone else mentioned the colouring too and I totally agree. That was for sure part of it.
And yes! I have a discord server now! The link is posted in my community board 😃😃
League of Legends is a kind of tournament. Sort of like Mortal Kombat. Where heroes of all nations of the world of Runeterra compete for their kingdom in combat. Some of the monsters you see in these trailers were captured by the mages of the league to add to the games. Runeterra is a world with very rich history and many varied nations from a pirate kingdom to mountain peak living, snow loving trolls and viking-esk people and everything in between.
Much like Overwatch the game itself is simply fighting with very little story in it, while the actual Lore is released in short videos, short stories and comic books. For instance the red haired girl and the bulky knight are actually secretly in love but their nations are at war. Also you asked if the warewolf was "abducted by aliens" - He was recalled because he was salin. In the tournament nobody actually dies, when they are critically wounded they are teleported away from the battlefield for a brief time and healed before they can participate again.
I highly recommend you keep going as you seem to enjoy it already. The later videos are a lot more story driven and become on par with Overwatch. Also the short kind of weird ones are kind of advertisements for different outfits you can buy for your champions. They are kind of part of the lore and at the same time not, as it seems there is a multiverse kind of like DC and Marvel have multiverses. You'll see actual music videos later as some characters are actual pop stars in an alternate universe.
Would love to see you react to the Overwatch origin stories and "The Plan". Your reactions are full of emotion and I absolutely love it. Much love
Yes! I will. I really enjoyed Overwatch.
more league of legends videos pls! You'll love all the music and the new ones
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Oh my god. I forgot some of these trailers existed (especially the Urf ones).
I hope you had fun watching!
The later ones are much better, too, look forward to them!
Also, if there are some anime-style or future stuff, thats just promo-trailers for some skins and not story-relevant, so dont wonder when they dont make any sense.
11:14 "I'M NOT GONNA PLAY. Sorry guys."
No, no. Do not apologize. Sanity and health first.
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I think you taught Katarina ( the redhead ) is bad because of her color theme and the fact that she is an assassin / rogue type of character. Also her faction Noxus was portrayed as the bad ones originally.
My initial thoughts about Katarina being evil is because of her flaming hair and also Garen looks like a shining knight.
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I would say it's the black outfit with stark red hair. Red as a colour makes all humans think of danger, also the way she moves is more animalistic which gives a predatory vibe, just my opinion of it. I do agree thouigh it's always worth sitting down and thinking why you think the way you do about something.
I feel like you probably assume she's the bad guy because just like in WoW, she's wearing red and black and he is wearing blue and gold.. And he is an honorable knight character and she is an assassin.. not because of sexy women
Probably both.
I actually don't think it has anything to do with "sexy female white male" but more with the aesthetics chosen, Leather armor, red hair, dagger fighting feels like a rogue like figure to me, shining armor, big sword is more like a Knight. If Garen (the man) would have had like dark markings around his eyes or red pupils etc i think i would see him as the bad guy in this situation.
If you want a more up to date looking (i.e. still holds up well) League video that shows off a fair few champions, New Dawn is probably the best place to go. Beyond that you'd have to go into "skin" videos. Those video were made to reveal/show off new skin lines or additives to existing skin lines in League. Star Guardian, Project, KDA, etc. Some of which have intertwined lore.
I think I will watch a little more, then skip ahead.
You Will probably not Read this since im so late. However, there are bad guys and Good guys in the league of legends story. But in the game it doesn't really matter since its team vs team and you can team up with two legends thats in the story are enemies.
"Biases"
I thought it was because she was wearing dark leather clothing and duel wielding daggers.
Biker gang outfit vibes.
You watched the oldest cinematics possible lol, the recent music and cinematics are insane even just look at 2013 onwards
I'm gonna do a few more old ones, then some new ones.
@@HannaHsOverInvested when you get to the new ones i recommend Awaken and Warriors cinematics for 2019 and 2020, both are a song and cinematic in one and i have a good feeling youll like the female representation in these ones!
If it's look boring to you, you can check out K/D/A - Pop Stars. It's a League of Legends music video
Someone else said that too.
ehre sie schaut auch die alten cinematics
Depending on who you are and what you believe, both can be bad guys? It's been a long time since I've played so my knowledge maybe wrong or off, but the girls faction believes in Might makes right, no matter what it entails. The guys faction is law and justice unless you're magic then you're executed (he kinda struggles with this since his little sister that he cares for is a mage).
on your thought about the sexy women being the bad guy meaybe its the color too i mean u got a white knight in shining armor blue and yellow and the woman is all red and black can play a role in what you think of a charater as well
YES! Someone else said this too and that was for sure part of it!
you shoud take a look to fiddlestick new animation ( the scarecrow who's fighting with the card guys) it is rly good
Hey, you rly should watch the Overwatch origin stories ! I think you'll like it too !
Good reaction videos btw, keep it up !
Yes I need to get back to those.
Actually very good point about how you can think Katarina is part of the "bad guys" because of her outfit. I associate it with the color of her hair (you know, red=flames=evil), but actually can be a new point of view that it's because she's a sexy strong woman. In fact, she is part of the Noxus empire, that is not totally bad (because there are no good o bad factions in League of Legends, they just have different objectives), but it is certainly an expansionist brutal empire that conquers and destroys everything. So maybe her character design is made for us to think she is bad.
But I agree on the oversexualized champs that we have in League of Legends. The metal bra lady is called Morgana and she actually had a rework and they redesign her character. Now she wears a dress, which may not be more comfortable for the battle, but she is a mage, so she doesn't need to move around like Katarina.
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You think she's the bad guy because she has red-black colors and is attacking, and he has white-blue-shiny colors and is defending.
Color scheme. At the time they made her all of noxus (where she from) was “bad guys” so a lot of it is in design. Plus given that she’s standing against Garen, who they designed as the paragon of justice, doesn’t help.
"I'm probably wrong because I'm always wrong, that similar to Warcraft, there are no 'real' bad guys?"
I need to watch these Warcraft videos now because there's more bad guys in WoW than there are in League lmao, Evelynn and Gangplank aren't fantastic but they're mostly just hanging out.
in the social experiment thingy, you went with woman bad a man good, but my first thoughts were red(ussr) bad blue(usa) good
don't forget about Tales of runetrra they are short story videos 1st one was released like 1 year ago last like 2 month if am not wrong and the best one i think "Kin of stained blade"
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With how much you like Annie (little girl with the teddy bear) I cant wait for you to get to her origin story video.
I've heard there is one!!!!
@@HannaHsOverInvested There's several origin stories that are good. There are some story based ones like the one with the Knight guy vs the Assassin. Those get better as they move one. But there best is the music videos. Awaken, Rise and Warriors would probably be top 3 for league vids. I think you'll enjoy the ride.
Lol the fact that she associated katarina was a "bad guy," was because she was a girl in provocative clothing against a white male, was beyond my imagination. I actually never thought about it that way. The first time I saw this, I identified katarina as the bad guy because of traits that I read from her such as: dark color scheme, red hair, scar on her face, dressed like an assassin, over confident, cocky, and more. Where as Garen had the good guy type of traits like: seriousness, bright color schemes, knight in shining armor, and the feeling like he is fighting katarina for a great cause. Tryndamere in this cinematic had dark color schemes and intimidating look over all, and so I thought he was a bad guy too. I never thought someone could be bad or good because of what they wear or what gender they are born with, not the skin of that character.
Early league cinematics were sort of ass. In this entire 2 hour compilation, there are maybe only 3 or 4 good ones. I'd recommend watching "Tales of Runeterra" cinematics instead, which aren't included in the compilation you're watching. They're far better, both in artstyle and writing, and feature the same characters.
If you want to continue with the current compilation video, I'd highly recommend having someone you trust pick out a list of individual videos/timestamps.
Well clearly, Garen is quite literally a "knight in shining armor" and Katarina is the viscious assassin who LAUGHS during combat. Nothing sexist nor racist about that imo.