This is a cost savings removal process of the foam filled tires used by heavy equipment at Sierra Army Depot. Also check out our other capabilities at Sierra: • Sierra Army Depot: Cap...
Unfortunately for us we have How It's Made and damn, split rims would be great but because of lower cost and manufacturing process. This is easier, shazule I cant even bring a split rim to the tire shop anymore.
Considering I see a tire cage in the background I'm pretty sure they know what a split rim is. I suspect Sierra Army Depot is well acquainted with them.
Wish I had seen this last week as I had 04 guys removing 24 tyres from my kamage 200 Ton multisteer hydraulic low loader with angle grinders, knives and blood sweat and tears....I can,t wait until our next foam filled tyre machine comes in. Thanks a lot from Scotland....great video.
I worked with and operated heavy equipment as well as driving tractor trailer and the foam filled tires are good until they need replacing and this equipment make replacement look easy,very creative! Maranatha, GREETINGS from Tampa Florida
an excavator with a thumb, some good luck and a smooth operator allows you to release the retaining ring on the rim for a quick change then force the rim out the tyre by supporting the tyre and pushing the rim down. The old ring piece holds tight while doing it though and I'm not talking about the one on the tyre. So would recommend this machine.
Bruce Sanborn..you old bastard we use to work together back in the day, this is Tony , god we had some great times not only at work but after work drinking at Stand-up Franks...l remember how you use to hit on Elma, she'd would grap you by the back of the head and force you to eat her out, you'd puke your guts out but you'd took it like a Man, the guys laughed there ass off, Elma dropped a lot of weight since those days, she down to about 280lbs, well listen it was nice to get caught up, l have to go take good care will talk soon
I did this two days ago on my John Deere 310b. Basically I lifted the rear using the outriggers. The backhoe was position 15 degrees toward the foam filled tire. My fork lift was perpendicular to the tire and we chained the fork with the backhoe so it wouldn't give. You do need to use a grinder to get the tip of the fork somewhat sharp (just the first 2 inches). My uncle put the backhoe in gear and used the brake to lock the other side of the tire. Within 5 minutes about 90% of the tire was off. Then we chained the tire against the fork mast and moved it off. We repositioned the fork lift and used the fork to pry the remaining material. And is all she wrote. Pretty much got it done within 10 minutes. Local place wanted $300, lol.
I been tire repair for 12 year, OTR repair TECH certified. and tire retreading for GCR firestone/bridgestone BANDAG rubber an all machines in the retread shop. Dirty job but i love it
@todd lecher Much respect, David the heavy repair formerly from Houston Tires here in Fayetteville clued me in on what a demanding job it really is. Thing is, this cat made it LOOK easy.....but I know better
I used to work as a field service tech for ARI, the machine used to do this. I worked mostly on their mobile column lifts. I left for another opportunity. Big mistake! They were a great company. USA company that made lifts inOhio. Worked with Italian companies for engineering at high quality. After working on many different companies lifts... ARI was the best. The wireless craze and patents kind sowed them a bit.. it’s good to see this machine in action. I miss the job and the money it came with. The owner was/is an amazing person who really cared about the employees as well. A powerful but humble man for sure!
Isnt that just going to be the same process as for any other regular tire? Come to think of it, its possible, that these tires dont even have a bead since there is no outwards pressure to be contained, that could push the tire off the rim - this tire also didnt have any casing, which is why they could cut right through it face on... - Usually there is a thick steel casing there...
Oh yeah, there's a bead on there all right. But why do it the time consuming, harder work, expensive machinery way? I can do the job quicker with 1 hand. Here's a free one, Stihl chop saw. I use a 14 or 18 in abrasive wheel but others work too. Cut a cross section, bead to bead 2 times, 1 opposite each other. The cutoff wheel is too big to get all the bead cable, so switch to a 1/4 in. die grinder with 3 in. wheel, cut the bead(s). Done. 5 minutes tops. Slices right through rubber, foam, and steel wires unbelievably easy, you don't even have to apply pressure, just fire it up and lay it on the tire, 1 hand just to guide it, gravity does the rest. No big setup hassle on an expensive one-off machine that you won't be able to find parts for in 2 years. No big machine that uses up space and hardly gets used. No big bucks lost. Time, energy, space and money gained. Oh yeah, mask and goggles and gloves. Make sure to do it outside, it gives off a ridiculous amount of smoke.
@@michaelmoore7975 I hear you, this video is from "Sierra Army Depot Media", I imagine that an army depot, that has to replace tires 10x every day, wouldnt mind a bigger, dedicated machine for the job, that makes the job less messy and saver. With a Chop saw there may be a higher risk for the worker and also a risk of damaging the rim...? But I agree that your way is good for smaller quantities and smaller budgets...
@@jeffreylebowski4927 @Jeffrey Lebowski I worked at the Air Force motorpool, and admittedly the AF has fewer ot those type vehicles, so I guess it would come down to frequency of use. And foam filled tires last a _very_ long time, maybe 2 or 3 tire changes in the lifetime of the machine, depending on usage. I've had them come in with nothing but 2 sidewalls and no tread. And I myself would think even in that scenario it wouldn't be worth the hassle...but what do I know? They could be doing that all day. Cutting with a chop saw is really a breeze, just get close to the rim, then cut the bead with a 1/4 in die grinder and 3 in wheel. Rarely touch the wheel. But yeah, you're right, at a certain point that machine makes sense. Definitely less smoky and less messy for sure. Thank for the reply.
@@brookemcquale5096 No that is not what it's for. You replace them when they are worn to a certain measurement using a penny. I really hope you're joking hahaha.
This guy is really awesome in the sense he takes into consideration the working hard is absolutely hard on his employees and hard on the operations cost. This Machine is working smart and efficient.
They were getting paid $35/hr to remove foam tires by hand. They don’t have a right to complain about having “sore wrists.” Lol, a 20-year-old could do the same job better, except he’d be getting paid close to minimum wage. I wonder what else these employees do to justify their wages.
@@Occasional-Win, Apparently you have never or know anyone that has had to have wrist surgery due to carperal tunnel. I have two families members that have. It's not just about a sore wrist it's about the damage you are do to the wrist. Listen when you are in your 40's it will start to make sense why working smart is better than working hard.
Mmmmm, kinda. I can do the job quicker easier, and cheaper with 1 hand. Here's a free one, Stihl chop/concrete saw. I use an abrasive wheel but others work too. Cut a cross section, bead to bead 2 times opposite each other. The cutoff wheel is too big to get all the bead cable, so switch to a 1/4 in. die grinder with 3 in. wheel, cut the bead(s). Done. 5 minutes tops. Slices right through rubber, foam, and steel wires unbelievably easy, you don't even have to apply pressure, just fire it up and lay it on the tire, 1 hand just to guide it, gravity does the rest. No big setup hassle on an expensive one-off machine that you won't be able to find parts for in 2 years. No big machine that uses up space and hardly gets used. No big bucks lost. Time, energy, space, and money gained. I'll be done before you get it mounted. Oh yeah, mask and goggles and gloves. Make sure to do it outside, it gives off a ridiculous amount of smoke.
This is one of those things that , i should be asleep but decided to open TH-cam. 0 clue whats going on wont remeber this in the morning watched the whole thing lol
Nice video, never knew it took do long to get them changed let alone just taken off. You need to have them make a "wedge" type of cutter/remover head for the foam part.
Why do it the expensive, time consuming, big machine way? I can do the job quicker, easier, and cheaper with 1 hand. Here's a free one, Stihl chop saw. I use a 14 or 18 in abrasive wheel but others work too. Cut a cross section, bead to bead 2 times, 1 opposite each other. The cutoff wheel is too big to get all the bead cable, so switch to a 1/4 in. die grinder with 3 in. wheel, cut the bead(s). Done. 5 minutes tops. Slices right through rubber, foam, and steel wires unbelievably easy, you don't even have to apply pressure, just fire it up and lay it on the tire, 1 hand just to guide it, gravity does the rest. No big setup hassle on an expensive one-off machine that you won't be able to find parts for in 2 years. No big machine that uses up space and hardly gets used. No big bucks lost. Time, energy, space, and money gained. I'll be done before they could mount it. Oh yeah, mask and goggles and gloves. Make sure to do it outside, it gives off a ridiculous amount of smoke.
They said it saved them 12 hours that it would normally take two guys to do it in...that's crazy!! I have been fixing tires "truck, tractor, car, mower, backhoe and anything with tires" for over 30 years and i can do one of these in 3 hours by myself, taking foam one off rim and putting new tire/tube mount and back on! The only thing doing it the way in the video does, saves them from doing any work...it is not faster for sure! Taking a foam filled tire off of any size rim is so fricken easy i shouldn't even have to tell you how to do it...use your head guys!
The method we used at the scarp yard was,cut the tire at the bead on both sides then cut from one side of the bead to the other straight across the tire then we used the Liebherr with the scarp handler “the claw” to rip everything off the wheel took about 10 to 15 minutes to do
Nahhh... I can do the job quicker easier, and cheaper with 1 hand. Here's a free one, Stihl chop saw. I use an abrasive wheel but others work too. Cut a cross section, bead to bead 2 times opposite each other. The cutoff wheel is too big to get all the bead cable, so switch to a 1/4 in. die grinder with 3 in. wheel, cut the bead(s). Done. 5 minutes tops. Slices right through rubber, foam, and steel wires unbelievably easy, you don't even have to apply pressure, just fire it up and lay it on the tire, 1 hand just to guide it, gravity does the rest. No big setup hassle on an expensive one-off machine that you won't be able to find parts for in 2 years. No big machine that uses up space and hardly gets used. No big bucks lost. Time, energy, space, and money gained. I'll be done before you get it mounted. Oh yeah, mask and goggles and gloves. Make sure to do it outside, it gives off a ridiculous amount of smoke.
This makes me want used loader tires even more! Could use the foam for great projects! Edit: finally got a pretty handful of these foam filled tires and i gotta say they are QUITE MESSY. i have removed the foam part using only two crowbars, a machete and a whole lotta elbow grease! The foam is like a mousse rubber but very easy to cut and carve out really good shapes!
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I can do the job quicker with 1 hand. Here's a free one, Stihl chop saw. I use a 14 or 18 in abrasive wheel but others work too. Cut a cross section, bead to bead 2 times, 1 opposite each other. The cutoff wheel is too big to get all the bead cable, so switch to a 1/4 in. die grinder with 3 in. wheel, cut the bead(s). Done. 5 minutes tops. Slices right through rubber, foam, and steel wires unbelievably easy, you don't even have to apply pressure, just fire it up and lay it on the tire, 1 hand just to guide it, gravity does the rest. No big setup hassle on an expensive one-off machine that you won't be able to find parts for in 2 years. No big machine that uses up space and hardly gets used. No big bucks lost. Time, energy, space, and money gained. Oh yeah, mask and goggles and gloves. Make sure to do it outside, it gives off a ridiculous amount of smoke.
When I was 18(1992) I was forced to break semi tires off the rim by hand.. after a few, they let me use the tire machine similar to what you have there. Hydraulics rule.
First blade - remove and store. Second "T" blade - make wider with blades on both sides 1/2 (plus an inch) bead rim width in length. Fabricate a removable large ball bearing on the "T" blade shaft to ride1" or so away from the steel bead rim. Start by slicing the tire and foam as the second step in video. Then slice the tire rim and foam on the other side (third step on video). Then put on the bearing and use the side motion (left to right) while rotating to pressure the cut tire with it's foam off the rim to the right. Continue to remove the cut side rims and central foam residue as you did before. - TSgt Joe S - USAF Ret. 40 years TIS When the going gets tough, the tough call for Close Air Support. Air Force Ammo.
Ребята, это всего лишь на всего заполнение шин. Ставьте палец в верх, и я сниму вам видос об этой Штуке. Это шина заполненная полиуретаном. Полик помогает эксплуатировать шину не боясь проколов и порезов. Но как видите, от стирания он шину не убережет. Стерся протектор и все. А срезают её для того чтоб на старый диск одеть новую шину и далее с ново заполнить её полиуретаном.
Goes in liquid threw the valve stem. Then solidifies into the rubberized structural foam. There will actually be a bolt or screw that plugs the hole that is drilled in the tread ply of the tire to act as a vent so the foam can properly cure and fill the casing. One that size weighs about 600lbs once cured
@@jays.7923 Agreed definitely not 'bead locks' but clearly a split rim with a split ring retainer. Where the split lock ring can be removed then one bead slid off the rest of the rim. Better shown here: th-cam.com/video/8UFvWt8OqTc/w-d-xo.html . You can see the difference from the machine side to the no machine side on this vid 3:53 at the nine o'clock position.
For what those tires cost I would like to think there was a lot of life left in that rubber and foam.. I mean you couldn’t see the foam yet from outside lol
Not all of them are foam filled, it's an expensive option, however is the cheap option (compared to fixing/replacing tires) for places like junkyards that have frequent tire punctures.
Jay Dunbar $150 a tire for repair on the exact same tire, 3 times a week working at a landfill. That is if you do not get a side wall puncture as well which would require a sectioning but at $17,000 to foam fill all four tires it is a little to rich. It was decided to go with a cheap no name brand tire from china with the deepest tread as possible and has made a difference. Take out a side wall.......scrap the tire and go new again to gain the depth advantage for nail punctures and traction. A metal scrap yard.....yeah, that would be a must I would think.
Saves you time, you're still going to charge the same rates for man hours as if you were doing it by hand..... but yeah,not like they need to know that...
I’m a mechanic I got to say that was pretty bad ass👍😎I was thinking it might be easier just to buy the rim and tire all together but I’m sure that’s probably A lot more🤔
They dont come that way,theyre mounted on the rim then they pump urethane mixture through the balve stem,it hardens differently depending on the mix and type of rigidity needed for each application
Yeah that was an all day job removing foam fill. Glad I dont do that anymore. Then the boss would tell us to put the foam chunks in the new tires as filler before it was mounted and then foam filled. He made a fortune, we made $6.15 and hour working with a carcinogen.
@@cc9z they're probably poor because they pay taxes that let you lay around, talk shit on the internet and go shopping with your EBT card. So shut up about us working class people.
you could also sell those cut tires for feeders to people with live stock and if you could make some kind of curved tool to get the foam portion off in one piece you might be able to sell those to race races as bumpers or those things they put on sides of boats or anything else some people would buy those cut tires for flower pots
It looks like the machine wouldn't support the axis movement. The machine can't make any arc movements.
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justin i remember cutting triangles out of car tires and folding the remaining parts up and we used them as planters lost hillbilly arts i guess, hell my driveway had beer can pull tab necklaces going up either side and hanging baskets made from them too!!!!oh the good old days and btw tractor tires buried half in ground one after the other was my neighbors driveway border!! who the fuck needs belgian block!!!!
I haven't found any employer around Cheektowaga that really cares about their employees, they seems to hire people to use their youth for little pay, they believe they can always find someone else to do the job. Start your own business.
I bet it’s better then working for Dunntire! 8 Year’s doing tires worst place to ever work!! Don’t know how I’ve made it 13 months.. that’s a company that will hire experience and promise a full raise after 90 days and just make bank off your experience and can you when they’re done with you. The whole company is a shit show
Yep his name is Mike. I can do the job quicker easier, and cheaper with 1 hand. Here's a free one, Stihl chop/concrete saw. I use an abrasive wheel but others work too. Cut a cross section, bead to bead 2 times, 1 opposite each other. The cutoff wheel is too big to get all the bead cable, so switch to a 1/4 in. die grinder with 3 in. wheel, cut the bead(s). Done. 5 minutes tops. Slices right through rubber, foam, and steel wires unbelievably easy, you don't even have to apply pressure, just fire it up and lay it on the tire, 1 hand just to guide it, gravity does the rest. No big setup hassle on an expensive one-off machine that you won't be able to find parts for in 2 years. No big machine that uses up space and hardly gets used. No big bucks lost. Time, energy, space, and money gained. I'll be done before they get it mounted. Oh yeah, mask and goggles and gloves. Make sure to do it outside, it gives off a ridiculous amount of smoke.
Well I didn't know about foam being in tires. Was It sprayed in like with fix a flat or the tires just put on with the foam so they don't have to use air?
not on all heavy equpiment. this is army equipment. most heavy equpiment just uses air and if they want puntcure resistance they just use chain mail or solid tires. but if you put a tire on and fill it with foam this is the only way to get it off i guess
@C Movies maybe. but i just looked up a rim (just the wheel with no tire) for a 988 which was the smallest loader we used. a used one is 2400 dollars on ebay. i looked up foam filled tires and they are about 400. so if you sold foam filled tires for 400 dollars would you include a 2400 dollar rim? i wouldnt. large places that do heavy equipment work have a shop full of guys that they have to pay wheather they do anything or not. and there is always downtime here and there. making them change a tire out is a small job in comparison. i suppose they could just charge a core charge for the rim and charge say 2800 for the tire and then give you back 2400 when you gave them the old rim but people would try to pawn old broken rims off on you and then you try to resell it to the next customer and make them mad or worse get somebody killed. tires need changing. thats all there is to it. how about a regular air filled tire? you dont throw the rims away on your car when you get new tires do you? if they are not plain steel rims they probalby cost more than your tires too
6.7 now, a lot of useless angry millinial stuck taking the corona bus and epidemic train most likely. Because even a Prius isn't a right but a privlege. 😆
My procrastinating is getting out of hand.
🤣 This deserves so many thousands👍
Hey, we're all in this together.
Why? Are you getting tired?
Word
@@welderboy14 I felt deflated.
11:30 Old timer walks in and says, "I gather none of you kids has ever seen a split rim before."
I was thinking the exact same thing. I'd love to see them fitting a new tire. About 2 days' work, would you think?
Unfortunately for us we have How It's Made and damn, split rims would be great but because of lower cost and manufacturing process. This is easier, shazule I cant even bring a split rim to the tire shop anymore.
Considering I see a tire cage in the background I'm pretty sure they know what a split rim is. I suspect Sierra Army Depot is well acquainted with them.
That was a split rim....
@@mathuetax tire cages should be used with any rim type
*Once again, TH-cam recommendations has brought us all together.*
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Fallout 2, anyone?
Yup
Once again i am asking for your financial sopport
next step are cities with people who have similar recommendations in youtube.
Wish I had seen this last week as I had 04 guys removing 24 tyres from my kamage 200 Ton multisteer hydraulic low loader with angle grinders, knives and blood sweat and tears....I can,t wait until our next foam filled tyre machine comes in. Thanks a lot from Scotland....great video.
I worked with and operated heavy equipment as well as driving tractor trailer and the foam filled tires are good until they need replacing and this equipment make replacement look easy,very creative! Maranatha, GREETINGS from Tampa Florida
an excavator with a thumb, some good luck and a smooth operator allows you to release the retaining ring on the rim for a quick change then force the rim out the tyre by supporting the tyre and pushing the rim down. The old ring piece holds tight while doing it though and I'm not talking about the one on the tyre. So would recommend this machine.
Bruce Sanborn can you tell how can fill fome in trecter tyrs
Bruce Sanborn..you old bastard we use to work together back in the day, this is Tony , god we had some great times not only at work but after work drinking at Stand-up Franks...l remember how you use to hit on Elma, she'd would grap you by the back of the head and force you to eat her out, you'd puke your guts out but you'd took it like a Man, the guys laughed there ass off, Elma dropped a lot of weight since those days, she down to about 280lbs, well listen it was nice to get caught up, l have to go take good care will talk soon
I did this two days ago on my John Deere 310b. Basically I lifted the rear using the outriggers. The backhoe was position 15 degrees toward the foam filled tire. My fork lift was perpendicular to the tire and we chained the fork with the backhoe so it wouldn't give. You do need to use a grinder to get the tip of the fork somewhat sharp (just the first 2 inches). My uncle put the backhoe in gear and used the brake to lock the other side of the tire. Within 5 minutes about 90% of the tire was off. Then we chained the tire against the fork mast and moved it off. We repositioned the fork lift and used the fork to pry the remaining material. And is all she wrote. Pretty much got it done within 10 minutes. Local place wanted $300, lol.
I been tire repair for 12 year, OTR repair TECH certified. and tire retreading for GCR firestone/bridgestone BANDAG rubber an all machines in the retread shop. Dirty job but i love it
@todd lecher Much respect, David the heavy repair formerly from Houston Tires here in Fayetteville clued me in on what a demanding job it really is. Thing is, this cat made it LOOK easy.....but I know better
@@bbigrocker1 you bet, it really does take a certain breed
I used to work as a field service tech for ARI, the machine used to do this. I worked mostly on their mobile column lifts. I left for another opportunity. Big mistake!
They were a great company. USA company that made lifts inOhio. Worked with Italian companies for engineering at high quality.
After working on many different companies lifts... ARI was the best. The wireless craze and patents kind sowed them a bit.. it’s good to see this machine in action. I miss the job and the money it came with. The owner was/is an amazing person who really cared about the employees as well. A powerful but humble man for sure!
The jobs not finished. I'd like to have seen them remove the bead from the wheel too.
And carve a massive black dong outta that tube to mount on front of a deuce and a half.
Isnt that just going to be the same process as for any other regular tire?
Come to think of it, its possible, that these tires dont even have a bead since there is no outwards pressure to be contained, that could push the tire off the rim - this tire also didnt have any casing, which is why they could cut right through it face on... - Usually there is a thick steel casing there...
Oh yeah, there's a bead on there all right. But why do it the time consuming, harder work, expensive machinery way? I can do the job quicker with 1 hand.
Here's a free one, Stihl chop saw. I use a 14 or 18 in abrasive wheel but others work too. Cut a cross section, bead to bead 2 times, 1 opposite each other. The cutoff wheel is too big to get all the bead cable, so switch to a 1/4 in. die grinder with 3 in. wheel, cut the bead(s). Done. 5 minutes tops. Slices right through rubber, foam, and steel wires unbelievably easy, you don't even have to apply pressure, just fire it up and lay it on the tire, 1 hand just to guide it, gravity does the rest. No big setup hassle on an expensive one-off machine that you won't be able to find parts for in 2 years. No big machine that uses up space and hardly gets used. No big bucks lost. Time, energy, space and money gained.
Oh yeah, mask and goggles and gloves. Make sure to do it outside, it gives off a ridiculous amount of smoke.
@@michaelmoore7975 I hear you, this video is from "Sierra Army Depot Media", I imagine that an army depot, that has to replace tires 10x every day, wouldnt mind a bigger, dedicated machine for the job, that makes the job less messy and saver.
With a Chop saw there may be a higher risk for the worker and also a risk of damaging the rim...?
But I agree that your way is good for smaller quantities and smaller budgets...
@@jeffreylebowski4927 @Jeffrey Lebowski I worked at the Air Force motorpool, and admittedly the AF has fewer ot those type vehicles, so I guess it would come down to frequency of use. And foam filled tires last a _very_ long time, maybe 2 or 3 tire changes in the lifetime of the machine, depending on usage. I've had them come in with nothing but 2 sidewalls and no tread. And I myself would think even in that scenario it wouldn't be worth the hassle...but what do I know? They could be doing that all day.
Cutting with a chop saw is really a breeze, just get close to the rim, then cut the bead with a 1/4 in die grinder and 3 in wheel. Rarely touch the wheel.
But yeah, you're right, at a certain point that machine makes sense. Definitely less smoky and less messy for sure.
Thank for the reply.
That tire still had at 21,000 miles left on it, according to the way my wife replaces tires.
@7 Dusk You better hope your wife doesn't see this! Off to the doghouse with you pal! LOL
I think you under-estimated that mileage ;)
I wait until I see the steel belt. isn't that what it's for?
@@brookemcquale5096 No that is not what it's for. You replace them when they are worn to a certain measurement using a penny. I really hope you're joking hahaha.
Anyone ask themselves why these types of videos are so enjoyable to watch?
Its not the videos that make it worthwhile. It is the comment section I usually find interesting.
Now that was something to see. What a clean and easy way to do this~!!! Thanks for the show.
I'd like to see the installation method for the replacement foam tire. Can you post a video of that?
Yes, install. Do the install, please, I must know.
This is exactly what it felt like when I was 10 years old trying to patch a flat tire on my bike.
interesting procedure ! Till today i didn't know what was inside those huge tires , i guess i learn something new everyday !
This guy is really awesome in the sense he takes into consideration the working hard is absolutely hard on his employees and hard on the operations cost. This Machine is working smart and efficient.
yeah because nobody will smell that
They were getting paid $35/hr to remove foam tires by hand. They don’t have a right to complain about having “sore wrists.” Lol, a 20-year-old could do the same job better, except he’d be getting paid close to minimum wage.
I wonder what else these employees do to justify their wages.
@@Occasional-Win, Apparently you have never or know anyone that has had to have wrist surgery due to carperal tunnel. I have two families members that have. It's not just about a sore wrist it's about the damage you are do to the wrist. Listen when you are in your 40's it will start to make sense why working smart is better than working hard.
Mmmmm, kinda. I can do the job quicker easier, and cheaper with 1 hand.
Here's a free one, Stihl chop/concrete saw. I use an abrasive wheel but others work too. Cut a cross section, bead to bead 2 times opposite each other. The cutoff wheel is too big to get all the bead cable, so switch to a 1/4 in. die grinder with 3 in. wheel, cut the bead(s). Done. 5 minutes tops. Slices right through rubber, foam, and steel wires unbelievably easy, you don't even have to apply pressure, just fire it up and lay it on the tire, 1 hand just to guide it, gravity does the rest.
No big setup hassle on an expensive one-off machine that you won't be able to find parts for in 2 years. No big machine that uses up space and hardly gets used. No big bucks lost. Time, energy, space, and money gained. I'll be done before you get it mounted.
Oh yeah, mask and goggles and gloves. Make sure to do it outside, it gives off a ridiculous amount of smoke.
This is one of those things that , i should be asleep but decided to open TH-cam. 0 clue whats going on wont remeber this in the morning watched the whole thing lol
Worked in that same shop 95-97. Was a lot of fun except for my elbow got tendonitis permanently digging out nails.
Awesome. Keep the inner tube for a kids winter sled.
Thats actually really efficient. Excellent design
Someone that did that by hand designed that & is now retired on a island !
Nice video, never knew it took do long to get them changed let alone just taken off. You need to have them make a "wedge" type of cutter/remover head for the foam part.
Why do it the expensive, time consuming, big machine way? I can do the job quicker, easier, and cheaper with 1 hand.
Here's a free one, Stihl chop saw. I use a 14 or 18 in abrasive wheel but others work too. Cut a cross section, bead to bead 2 times, 1 opposite each other. The cutoff wheel is too big to get all the bead cable, so switch to a 1/4 in. die grinder with 3 in. wheel, cut the bead(s). Done. 5 minutes tops. Slices right through rubber, foam, and steel wires unbelievably easy, you don't even have to apply pressure, just fire it up and lay it on the tire, 1 hand just to guide it, gravity does the rest. No big setup hassle on an expensive one-off machine that you won't be able to find parts for in 2 years. No big machine that uses up space and hardly gets used. No big bucks lost. Time, energy, space, and money gained.
I'll be done before they could mount it.
Oh yeah, mask and goggles and gloves. Make sure to do it outside, it gives off a ridiculous amount of smoke.
The noise the second cutting tool makes is sending my ears to orbit
They said it saved them 12 hours that it would normally take two guys to do it in...that's crazy!! I have been fixing tires "truck, tractor, car, mower, backhoe and anything with tires" for over 30 years and i can do one of these in 3 hours by myself, taking foam one off rim and putting new tire/tube mount and back on! The only thing doing it the way in the video does, saves them from doing any work...it is not faster for sure! Taking a foam filled tire off of any size rim is so fricken easy i shouldn't even have to tell you how to do it...use your head guys!
Truth and Experience speak volumes of Knowledge..... Papa...
This vid helped me fall asleep. I was Tired.
ME too
Wish it put me to sleep!
The method we used at the scarp yard was,cut the tire at the bead on both sides then cut from one side of the bead to the other straight across the tire then we used the Liebherr with the scarp handler “the claw” to rip everything off the wheel took about 10 to 15 minutes to do
Stationed there from 86-89, Sierra has always filled a niche market for Joint requirements.
I love it, sometimes a precise application of brute force is the best way to go.
Only a heavy machine could do this.
Amazing how tough these tires are.
Walter Palmer
Nahhh... I can do the job quicker easier, and cheaper with 1 hand.
Here's a free one, Stihl chop saw. I use an abrasive wheel but others work too. Cut a cross section, bead to bead 2 times opposite each other. The cutoff wheel is too big to get all the bead cable, so switch to a 1/4 in. die grinder with 3 in. wheel, cut the bead(s). Done. 5 minutes tops. Slices right through rubber, foam, and steel wires unbelievably easy, you don't even have to apply pressure, just fire it up and lay it on the tire, 1 hand just to guide it, gravity does the rest.
No big setup hassle on an expensive one-off machine that you won't be able to find parts for in 2 years. No big machine that uses up space and hardly gets used. No big bucks lost. Time, energy, space, and money gained. I'll be done before you get it mounted.
Oh yeah, mask and goggles and gloves. Make sure to do it outside, it gives off a ridiculous amount of smoke.
Make sure to include every gripping second of hot tire-rotation action!! FEWF! Glad THAT thrill-ride is over!
You know you can skip ahead, right?
Dude all I can say is wow I completely understand your logic in this....
Very cool video....
Wish I had this instead of a Sawzall and a pry bar! That took me all day.
That was very interesting. Thank you for showing that process.
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well, there's 12 minutes of my life I'll never get back......
THAT was cool. Never saw this or heard of this.
That was cool. Thanks for sharing.
At 5:00, I was legitimately laughing... “TH-cam, what the hell am I watching?... and can’t stop watching!”
This makes me want used loader tires even more! Could use the foam for great projects!
Edit: finally got a pretty handful of these foam filled tires and i gotta say they are QUITE MESSY. i have removed the foam part using only two crowbars, a machete and a whole lotta elbow grease! The foam is like a mousse rubber but very easy to cut and carve out really good shapes!
What type of projects
@@anssc587 realistic hunan sculptures that are squishy and flubby 😁
What a marvellous machine, fascinating to watch.
I had to do them with a saws all. The only thing they bought us was more blades. We couldn't be that slow either but it is a nice piece of equipment.
So much for the rethreading.
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Me: dee pot
Of speaking the kings English it's pronounced dep oh like Johnny dep oh deep o would suggest depot has 2 e's like data is day tah not dah tab like date with ah art the end
LMAO just.busting your balls
Do not miss messing with foam filled tires everyday. Did anything from a small lawnmower tire to loader/JLG tires and more
You guys have given me and idea, much thanks
I use to do it with a sawzall I’m a hour that was with foam splitting into two pieces
I can do the job quicker with 1 hand.
Here's a free one, Stihl chop saw. I use a 14 or 18 in abrasive wheel but others work too. Cut a cross section, bead to bead 2 times, 1 opposite each other. The cutoff wheel is too big to get all the bead cable, so switch to a 1/4 in. die grinder with 3 in. wheel, cut the bead(s). Done. 5 minutes tops. Slices right through rubber, foam, and steel wires unbelievably easy, you don't even have to apply pressure, just fire it up and lay it on the tire, 1 hand just to guide it, gravity does the rest. No big setup hassle on an expensive one-off machine that you won't be able to find parts for in 2 years. No big machine that uses up space and hardly gets used. No big bucks lost. Time, energy, space, and money gained.
Oh yeah, mask and goggles and gloves. Make sure to do it outside, it gives off a ridiculous amount of smoke.
I can do it FASTER, knowahmsayin? I just use uh skillsaw wit a chopsaw blade. It works so good. Knowahmsayin
i had no idea what this was and but i thought it was some kind of carving
Excellent video and what a cost cutting machine! Now how do you mount the new rubber.
Wow never seen this done. Pretty cool 😎
I don't see many comments from women thinking this is a good piece of kit they would use.
When I was 18(1992) I was forced to break semi tires off the rim by hand.. after a few, they let me use the tire machine similar to what you have there. Hydraulics rule.
I never knew that I needed to know this!
First blade - remove and store.
Second "T" blade - make wider with blades on both sides 1/2 (plus an inch) bead rim width in length. Fabricate a removable large ball bearing on the "T" blade shaft to ride1" or so away from the steel bead rim.
Start by slicing the tire and foam as the second step in video.
Then slice the tire rim and foam on the other side (third step on video).
Then put on the bearing and use the side motion (left to right) while rotating to pressure the cut tire with it's foam off the rim to the right.
Continue to remove the cut side rims and central foam residue as you did before.
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Ребята, это всего лишь на всего заполнение шин. Ставьте палец в верх, и я сниму вам видос об этой Штуке. Это шина заполненная полиуретаном. Полик помогает эксплуатировать шину не боясь проколов и порезов. Но как видите, от стирания он шину не убережет. Стерся протектор и все. А срезают её для того чтоб на старый диск одеть новую шину и далее с ново заполнить её полиуретаном.
Blyat я тоже
I mean I gotta ask why not just break apart the multi-piece wheel the tire was mounted to since nothing was really saved for future use?
Those rims are expensive
Great tool. Quite the time saver.
Very interesting TH-cam I learn something new everyday thank you
Not sure what's crazier, that this video was in my recommended videos or that I have already seen it... with no reason to watch...
I'm in the same boat.
Same
That would make one hell of a float tube for the river.
+Spurious Effect
Yeah, if it were still in one piece!!!
+Mason Hil
Those inner tubes have valve stems that always seem to be in the wrong place when trying to use them for floating!!!
The only problem with the one they took off is that is solid rubber ,i seriously doubt that it floats
AzzKicker 1234 flip the tube over and problem solved
make a spade bit to cut straight into that foam toward the wheel, form that bit edge to the close shape for the wheel...
WOW what a genius time saving idea
Pretty damn awesome. Always thought that the foam was in liquid form learn something everyday on TH-cam.
Goes in liquid threw the valve stem. Then solidifies into the rubberized structural foam. There will actually be a bolt or screw that plugs the hole that is drilled in the tread ply of the tire to act as a vent so the foam can properly cure and fill the casing. One that size weighs about 600lbs once cured
There’s also calisum filled tires too that stays liquid
Try that on Randy's Doughnut
I was out there once, transporting loads to Utah, with the USAR in 99-00ish.
i learned something new today!
Would it not be faster to remove the locking ring & press out the rim?
What locking ring? There's no bead locks on that rim budd
@@jays.7923 Agreed definitely not 'bead locks' but clearly a split rim with a split ring retainer. Where the split lock ring can be removed then one bead slid off the rest of the rim. Better shown here: th-cam.com/video/8UFvWt8OqTc/w-d-xo.html . You can see the difference from the machine side to the no machine side on this vid 3:53 at the nine o'clock position.
You would still have to compress the tires sides to take the pressure off and get the ring out....and with foam, that ain't happening...ever.
I can only imagine the weight of that thing, and the load it puts on the drivetrain of the mashine.
What’s a mashine?
@@nedread6700 I was wondering the same thing
I used to do foam fill, I believe a tire of that size is at least 1000 pounds filled, it might have been more but I can't recall.
That machine will be in the next "Saw" movie!
That cutting sound was so satisfying. Then when the silence of the cutting done, I'm like "cool we are through"
No fatigue on the body. It's all automated.
Guy proceeds to throw out his back pushing the foam tube off by hand.
Much faster than my Xacto knife method.
lol
Yeah did you hear him say they used a saws all.. Two guys 4 hours.. Ugh
Oscar Mayer what the hell is a saws all I think you mean sawzall
@@BAZZAROU812 he said 6 hours ya goober!
@@InfiniteGTO the
A temp labor an I grinded one of with a demolition blade in 5 min max, tire was for a articulated forklift
Great video 👍
8:15 I swear this is exactly the sound of a blaze shooting
Oh Wait, I wanted the Left Front tire fixed!!!
That is an impressive machine!
Great video, thanks!
What is that foam inside the tire and how do they get it in there?
When you put a video on 2x speed and it's still too slow.
For what those tires cost I would like to think there was a lot of life left in that rubber and foam.. I mean you couldn’t see the foam yet from outside lol
That's awesome but it leaves plenty of time to show us how the beads come off!
What a sweet machine!
I never knew there was a giant chocolate donut inside those tires.
Not all of them are foam filled, it's an expensive option, however is the cheap option (compared to fixing/replacing tires) for places like junkyards that have frequent tire punctures.
lol homer simpson
Seems more like they were initially designed for combat.
Jay Dunbar $150 a tire for repair on the exact same tire, 3 times a week working at a landfill. That is if you do not get a side wall puncture as well which would require a sectioning but at $17,000 to foam fill all four tires it is a little to rich. It was decided to go with a cheap no name brand tire from china with the deepest tread as possible and has made a difference. Take out a side wall.......scrap the tire and go new again to gain the depth advantage for nail punctures and traction. A metal scrap yard.....yeah, that would be a must I would think.
Wow, I'm 70 and missed out on plastic bike tires. I'll bet they rode pretty hard too.
Saves you time, you're still going to charge the same rates for man hours as if you were doing it by hand..... but yeah,not like they need to know that...
I’m a mechanic I got to say that was pretty bad ass👍😎I was thinking it might be easier just to buy the rim and tire all together but I’m sure that’s probably A lot more🤔
Wow, I had no clue there was foam in them. That is a cool process though, thanks for sharing!
They dont come that way,theyre mounted on the rim then they pump urethane mixture through the balve stem,it hardens differently depending on the mix and type of rigidity needed for each application
Valve stem too
Yeah that was an all day job removing foam fill. Glad I dont do that anymore. Then the boss would tell us to put the foam chunks in the new tires as filler before it was mounted and then foam filled. He made a fortune, we made $6.15 and hour working with a carcinogen.
@@noidontthinksolol that was in 1986.
@@noidontthinksolol yeah exactly. 😶
I used to cut loader tires with foam off the rims with a sawzall. For real.
as soon as I say something about the greed of the rich some poor working class person will come and defend them
@@cc9z they're probably poor because they pay taxes that let you lay around, talk shit on the internet and go shopping with your EBT card. So shut up about us working class people.
you could also sell those cut tires for feeders to people with live stock and if you could make some kind of curved tool to get the foam portion off in one piece you might be able to sell those to race races as bumpers or those things they put on sides of boats or anything else some people would buy those cut tires for flower pots
the problem is they are heavy like really heavy. one of those inner cores can weigh up to 300lbs.
foam filler looks very soft, i don't think it will hold under the sun for a week
jam jam's wow dude, flower pots?😂
It looks like the machine wouldn't support the axis movement. The machine can't make any arc movements.
justin i remember cutting triangles out of car tires and folding the remaining parts up and we used them as planters lost hillbilly arts i guess, hell my driveway had beer can pull tab necklaces going up either side and hanging baskets made from them too!!!!oh the good old days and btw tractor tires buried half in ground one after the other was my neighbors driveway border!! who the fuck needs belgian block!!!!
I always had to use a sallzall, this is one of the best things I've seen!!
lot of good chunking parts
that you can use
Back in my day we had to peel them by hand to get to the succulent wheelmeat inside
Someone please tell valley tire co in Cheektowaga we need this sincerely the employees
I haven't found any employer around Cheektowaga that really cares about their employees, they seems to hire people to use their youth for little pay, they believe they can always find someone else to do the job. Start your own business.
I bet it’s better then working for Dunntire! 8 Year’s doing tires worst place to ever work!! Don’t know how I’ve made it 13 months.. that’s a company that will hire experience and promise a full raise after 90 days and just make bank off your experience and can you when they’re done with you. The whole company is a shit show
you do it without a machine?
Show us how u guys do it! Please
Very cool process.
Wow how tire removal has come up in this world. I remember mounting and removing tires using a bar and my knees...
Aint getting that bad boy off with a bar
There has to be a machine out there that can do this more quickly...seriously!
There is a lot of ways doing it faster ....way faster!
Yep his name is Mike. I can do the job quicker easier, and cheaper with 1 hand.
Here's a free one, Stihl chop/concrete saw. I use an abrasive wheel but others work too. Cut a cross section, bead to bead 2 times, 1 opposite each other. The cutoff wheel is too big to get all the bead cable, so switch to a 1/4 in. die grinder with 3 in. wheel, cut the bead(s). Done. 5 minutes tops. Slices right through rubber, foam, and steel wires unbelievably easy, you don't even have to apply pressure, just fire it up and lay it on the tire, 1 hand just to guide it, gravity does the rest.
No big setup hassle on an expensive one-off machine that you won't be able to find parts for in 2 years. No big machine that uses up space and hardly gets used. No big bucks lost. Time, energy, space, and money gained. I'll be done before they get it mounted.
Oh yeah, mask and goggles and gloves. Make sure to do it outside, it gives off a ridiculous amount of smoke.
damn, I want to see how the foam is filled now
Its pretty simple. I believe its just put in through the valve stem as a liquid and cures to what you saw here in about 24 hours I think.
This is oddly satisfying.
Well I didn't know about foam being in tires. Was It sprayed in like with fix a flat or the tires just put on with the foam so they don't have to use air?
So you have to destroy the entire tire to remove it?
No, but usually the tire is knackered hence change, so to save time and labor you slice it.
not on all heavy equpiment. this is army equipment. most heavy equpiment just uses air and if they want puntcure resistance they just use chain mail or solid tires. but if you put a tire on and fill it with foam this is the only way to get it off i guess
@@bobhumplick4213 ....wouldnt just buying a new rim and tire be easier???
@C Movies maybe. but i just looked up a rim (just the wheel with no tire) for a 988 which was the smallest loader we used. a used one is 2400 dollars on ebay. i looked up foam filled tires and they are about 400. so if you sold foam filled tires for 400 dollars would you include a 2400 dollar rim? i wouldnt. large places that do heavy equipment work have a shop full of guys that they have to pay wheather they do anything or not. and there is always downtime here and there. making them change a tire out is a small job in comparison.
i suppose they could just charge a core charge for the rim and charge say 2800 for the tire and then give you back 2400 when you gave them the old rim but people would try to pawn old broken rims off on you and then you try to resell it to the next customer and make them mad or worse get somebody killed.
tires need changing. thats all there is to it. how about a regular air filled tire? you dont throw the rims away on your car when you get new tires do you? if they are not plain steel rims they probalby cost more than your tires too
@@bobhumplick4213 ...sounds like a scam!!! Just like pool parts!!! Somebody is making bank!!!
4.3 thumbs down like square tires better :)
Oct 21,2020 and it's at 6.4k thumbs down 27k up = 24% think it stinks!
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well fancy seeing you here billy ! Lol 👍🇨🇦
6.7 now, a lot of useless angry millinial stuck taking the corona bus and epidemic train most likely.
Because even a Prius isn't a right but a privlege. 😆
Great video ! 👍
Hell... I’m impressed. Them dudes got their shit together