Jedi Order: we serve the Republic but we won’t fight their wars for them Also Jedi Order: Count Dooku’s a Sith now? Well snap, that’s all you had to say! *Ignites lightsabers*
According to this logic, jedi are actually more effective in large groups, as having other jedi around strengthens the ambient force energy in the area. That being said, the jedi would've been much better off had they deployed themselves as elite squadrons instead of generals during the clone wars.
There are two reasons that didn't happen. One, the Republic lacked much in terms of experienced combat personnel in general, leading them to pulling in the Jedi into such roles. Two, the CIS had few who could match Jedi, thus reducing the need for the Jedi to gang up.
Something that I want to see is a live action General Grievous who is slaughtering Jedi left and right, like in the 2003 series, while still being voiced by Matthew Wood!
Sha'a Gi: Like man, there is no way I'm going out there to face that cyborg. Ki-Aid-Mundi: Would you do it for a Scooby Snack. Sha'a Gi: Your mine Grevious! (Charges in and gets crushed).
If order 66 was activated after the first battle of Geonosis, it wouldn’t have been successful as the Jedi had not yet fully trusted the clones and would have been ready to eliminate the clones if need be. The reason why order 66 worked was because by the time the order was issued, the Jedi had come to fully trust the clones with their lives, so when the men they trusted with their lives all of a sudden started shooting at them, they were caught off guard and didn’t have enough time to process what was going on. Also there was the fact that the Jedi were weakened by warfare and spread thin across the galaxy during the final hours of the Clone Wars and the fact that The clones received the order all at once and in only a few short minutes, 99% of the Jedi Order was dead.
It also didn’t help that the Jedi were hemorrhaging members as Jedi were dying on the battlefield left and right, and as the war dragged on, they gradually lost the ability to replace the fallen. To the point that children were being thrown into combat.
Well it was also a Surprise Attack, which was THE BEST way to murder Jedi. It was near instant, and frequently the Jedi were ALREADY distracted by the enemy in front of them. Few Jedi would be in a position to BOTH See/Sense the attack Coming, AND have the time to react. Even if the Jedi weren't distracted by Combat, they could have had their Lightsaber too far away. Like Shower/Bath, Sleeping, etc. An of course the Jedi would have had a bunch of PTSD and weary of combat. Weary of being on the Front Lines. Morale was getting lower all the time. With a War that had ZERO end in sight, thanks to The Emperor controlling BOTH sides. An with their enemy being Droids, it wasn't like losing their best members was that harmful. Doubly so when at least 1 Droid could escape or transmit Data for Future Upgrades. Meanwhile when you lost a Jedi you could not quickly or easily replace one of that level of Skill, like you could a Droid. After all, it's not like every Padawan could replace a Jedi Knight or Master of the same power so quickly. You could only progress Jedi Learners & Padawans so fast, as a problem of Organics.
@@Deathmare235 There was only a small fraction of the Jedi there. Height of their power. Weren't even seriously trusted. etc. It would have been FAR too Early Game to do something like that. Meanwhile Order 66 targets ALMOST Every Single Jedi in the GALAXY!
Basically the Sith stacked the deck before the Jedi even knew they were in the game, and all they could do was react. And the sith had so many contingencies and back-up plans in place no amount of reacting would stop them. And it's not as if the Sith didn't have set-backs. The war kicking off before everything was completely ready, multiple unanticipated losses, more than a few times the senate nearly put the brakes on things, but in the end they still managed to bring things to fruition, with the only major failing being Vader's injuries from his duel with Obi-Wan.
This makes Anakin's case more tragic cause his love for Padme made him stand out from all the other Jedi because whenever something terrible happens, he looks to her for comfort.
Well, Anakin also a) had a way stronger connection to the force than all the others (so even as a pure lightsider he wouldn't have easily been deafened!), not to mention that b) he did use the darkside rather frequently (the others might not have seen it, but frankly: Anakin enjoyed fighting and taking risks etc.) so that also strengthened his connection, so Anakin was able to perform up to standard despite being in the thick of it...hell, most Jedi who survived until order 66 were the stronger and more well trained and skilled! Most pure diplomats had died by that point (hell, on Geonosis the strike team led by Windu also lost all of its weaker members, those who more or less only carried a lightsaber as a badge of membership of the jedi order! The one proficient in its use survived Geonosis! Hell, that Jango Fett could simply gun down a jedi shows that some of them aren't cut out to be fighters at all!)
@@dreamingflurry2729 Anakin didn't use the Dark Side much....but he WAS borderline a lot. He was powerful, but had many tedencies that would make it easy for him to Fall, given the right Motivation/Circumstance. But he was NEVER a Dark Jedi before Ep 3. The ironic part is that Padme had the power to stop Anakin's Transformation and save her Future Self. "Oh yeah I commited Genocide against the Sand People, because they murdered my Mom! So I klilled the Men, Women, AND CHILDREN!" "Oh God Anakain that's fucked up. Oh well, you're rather hot and I like you, so I'll quickly forgive you and NEVER speak of this Atrocity to Obi-Wan - the ONLY Jedi I can trust who knows our Secret!" Like what kind of person hears someone MURDER a large group of children and go "You know what? This is NOT something i should report or talk to ANYONE about EVER!"
@@TheAyanamiRei well, they did kill and rape his mom, and murdered a large portion of the rescue team that went to help her, so to put it lightly… tuskens are savages plain and simple.
Is anyone really surprised that the Jedi didn’t predict this They literally sat face to face with a Sith Lord many times ,yoda admitting his senses were clouded by the dark side while talking to said sith on scene, and never added one and one That is two, the number of sith at any given time
The Rule of Two meant that each Sith Lord had to be strong enough to overthrow their master, or die trying. Over centuries you eventually get Palpatine. Meanwhile the Jedi had become weak and complacent.
This was NOT the first time a Dark Side user hid in plain sight. There was one who hid openly amongst the Jedi They knew the Emperor was bad...but not a Dark Side User. The Emperor was on par or higher than Yoda. Only with insane political skills that Yoda and the Jedi lacked. Plus there was never enough proof until it was too late. The Emperor wasn't a nobody or even a normal politician. He was basically a President or Prime Minister. Even if they were almost positive, if they were wrong and it was a trick...they lose. If they are successful, but can't find proof then they become seen as a bigger Galactic Criminal Force than the Hutt.
@@tonyfriendly4409 Honestly it was not their military complacency that made them lose. It was that they didn't serve the Force Itself. They also removed themselves from Politics, which was their ultimate downfall. They allowed Corruption to Fester and Grow. They had almost no political influence or power... unlike the Emperor. An this isn't the first time a Dark Sider his from the Jedi in plain view over and over again. The biggest issue is they could ONLY react, NEVER truly able to plan and get ahead. Never able to deal a decisive blow, as blocked by The Jedi's highest political ruler.
@@omegon2540 Yeah I mean Palpatine even lays out his plan in a Reverse Scooby Doo way!! "I NEVER would have been able to get away with it, if you pesky Jedi hadn't removed yourself from politics!!" Now, Palpatine's Master, HE could have found a way to defeat the Jedi WITHOUT Politics, due to his Mastery over Science via The Force. Not to mention perfecting True Immortality and such. An who knows WHAT he would have been capable of, had he been able to get his hands of Anakin for Experimentation, or at least his DNA.
1:32 I remember Bariss Offee was arrested for Jedi Temple bombing and framing Ahsoka Tano who left the Jedi Order after being disillusioned and upset of the betrayal.
@@thecollector4332 Well, it is possible that later episodes would have explored what in the hell happened to her that caused her drastic change in personality. Then again, Senator Chu-chi was also set to be killed in one of the later episodes so...
Well, the Republic was dumb enough to disband its armed forces (the Judicials weren't well equipped or armed and thus were at best a police force!) and the jedi either let it happen (Disney Wars canon) or actively made it happen (EU/Legends - True canon!) with the Ruusan Reformation, that disbanded the Army of Light and even the Jedi Starfighter Corps!
There was a thing I saw where a couple of Clone Troopers had interferences with The Emperor's Signal Command for Order 66, and they thought it was Order 69. P hilarious.
"What happened to all the jedi?" Palpatine: "I killed them... every single one of them... not just the men, but the women, and the children too... theyre like animals! And I slaughtered them like animals! I HATE THEM!"
The jedi were facing mostly droids, that might be why they were so unrestrained 8n their front line fighting. They were not destroying life, it must have felt okay at first. But the number of casualties of their own men piled up, slowly draining them. Them being dependent on what little life was still around them, and that life turning on them. Must have been traumatic for whoever survived.
Yes, and add to that tremendous losses for civilians (on BOTH sides) or neutral forces (independent or semi-independent planets) stuck in between the fighting, and suddenly the fight against "evil droids" seem less and less ok with each passing moment.
Well they would also lose the Clone Troopers too. Which was a loss of life which they felt strongly. Not to mention War in general is terrible for the human Psyche. Add in to some of their members falling. The constant stress. Being thrown in at a young age for many. etc. it would have been a LOT of stress and pressure.
Although almost all of the ground forces and starfighters were droids, there were fair number of organics in the CIS getting killed. Their warships still had living command crews and many ground contingents had organic officers.
@@dark7element I didn't know that! Though it's not like Jedi weren't allowed to kill, it was just something seen as something to avoid typically. They wanted to be more Peace Keepers than Vigilantes. Not to mention in that case they had little choice in the matter frequently.
This is why I love Luke’s new Jedi order in legends they didn’t do what the old Jedi order failed to do not allow emotion and have more restrictions unlike Luke’s which was balanced
Yoda and many of the jedi are stated to be incompetent due to dark side energy, not just from the dark side nexus beneath the jedi temple but also from palpatine being so close, both of which clouded their judgement, plus due to the destruction of the jedi order being fate I'm sure jedi that could feel the will of the force saw that the jedi were supposed to be in the war, the real reason unbeknownst to them of course
I'd defiantly watch a longer video on the Sith Grand Plan. One from the time of Bane would be terrific, but just going from Plaugus and Sidius finalizing things would be good too.
Realistically given that the Galactic Republic had a population in the quadrillions if not quintillions the Jedi order should've numbered in the millions.
It might've if they were still using the old temples and enclaves, like the one on Dantooine from KOTOR, during the clone wars. The one temple can only hold so many Jedi
Make it better there were so few...the galaxy was massive and tens of thousands of systems and planets abound. Jedi Knights were known but rarely seen before the clone wars. They were Religious warrior monks that harnessed incredible powers. Most civilians never had seen a Jedi before, some hadn't even heard of em.
We know in the distant past, at least, that the Jedi used to be far more numerous, because even putting aside implict details from the New Sith Wars and such, there is explict mention in the TPM novelization of 'billions' of Jedi Knight journals being archived. Considering how long the Jedi and Republic have been around for, and depending on just how many billions that is, well...
@@mister_matt No, the battle of Geonosis, the clone wars, and even adding Dooku and Grievous themselves, could not have killed that many jedis. More realistically, before Geonosis, the Jedis were already in the tens of thousands order of magnitude, though more than 10 000. 20 000? 40 000? Hard to tell. But certainly not hundreds of thousands and even less millions.
I would like a single video about how the surviving jedi felt and reacted to order 66 (if it has not already been done) and video explain the full sith grand plan would be awesome.
Second! :) - Hell, that the survivors were going silently into the night is something that infuriates me, especially Yoda and Obi-Fail (yes: I dislike the character, because he wasn't man enough to end Anakin!) foisting off the job of taking care of Vader and the Emperor on Luke! Damned, Luke was an innocent, that he was force sensitive and being the son of Anakin Skywalker didn't in any way, shape or form make that his responsibility! That was the Jedi's fuckup and their responsibility to clean up! In fact they should have done everything in their power to end the Emperor (even crashing a Star Destroyer into his palace etc. - Everything goes in this case, except not taking responsibility!)
One point of disagreement at around 3:30 when you mentioned that the Jedi had been preparing to fight the Sith the way they had in antiquity. They weren't preparing at all and were fully convinced the Sith were extinct and final victory had been achieved. That's what created so much tension between Dooku and Yoda because Dooku did want to be prepared, leading to his leaving the order and eventual fall. And I may be mistaken but I think that same determination to stick their heads in the sand was why Sifo Dyas hid some of his visions from Yoda and was so easy to convince to help secretly create the clones for the GAR.
I remembered watching the scenario about the Jedi fought for the Separatists from Lore Guy and if it is possible, I would like to see this channel's intepretation of this scenario as well.
Palpatines extermination of the jedi TRULY began many years before the two hundred lost on that fateful day on geonosis. With incidents like the project outbound flight, palpatine had been wiping out jedi by the dozens long before
@@ChristianNationalist654 well that what happens when a Jedi Falls to the dark side. Many Jedi that fall to the dark side often become excellent Sith Lords due to quality of Jedi training and high quality of Force senstives.
At 2:02, he says that clones wouldn't give away that they're about to kill the Jedi at Order 66, yet at least Yoda sensed the clones near him were going to kill him.
Order 66 sums up what happens when arrogance overpowers rationality. You trust something so much and feel as if nothing can go wrong. The very people, system and life even that you live is so seemingly direct and straightforward that truth itself now eludes you. Simply being told you're fighting for "good" is enough to reassure you of your actions. A truly horrific tale of the dangers of complacency.
The novelization of revenge of the sith is so much better than the movie was capable of being. I loved the narration of the battle between anakin and dooku. Being inside dookus mind completely changes that fight. It's incredible
I always wondered why the jedis during order 66 were surrounded by clones, i never would’ve imagined they they had lost their power from fighting, wow. Great video!
Thank you for this one. It's cleared up something about the storyline that's bothered me for a long time. WHY did Palpatine construct such a Rube Goldbergian plan? Why not something much more straight forward - using the droid army to assault the Jedi directly. It's hard to decide which part of Palpy's plan was more important - destruction of the Jedi or absolute power. Probably destruction of the Jedi. That seems to have been his emotional core. Start the Clone Wars, push the Jedi forward as generals - a role which they never wanted and for which they were manifestly unsuited - as Qui-Jon Jinn said. And, of course he was correct. The Jedi were not soldiers. That's a central truth that the Jedi clearly understood but they seem to have surrendered to fate. As if they couldn't escape their own destruction so, Zen-like, they simply submitted to it. Perhaps Yoda felt this was the Will of the Force? Perhaps. It might explain his own peculiar passivity. It makes the byzantine plot more coherent.
It was BOTH. The War was just the best way to kill the Jedi since he could do it the best. The only way to get Ultimate Political Power is through War as we saw. But ONLY The Jedi were strong enough to REMOVE him from Power. Doubly so after he showed he was NOT a benevolent dictator, but an evil one.
Wouldn't it have been easier for Palpatine to just keep the clone wars going, until most of the Jedi were already dead. Jedi loses were greater then Jedi recruitment so it would just be a matter of time. Perhaps arrange a few accidents for more troublesome Jedi like Joda and Windu (good luck protecting yourself with the force when a hacked droid botches a hyperspace jump into a star or blows the reactor of your vessel).
The problem was that the Separatists had lost their two main front-lime leaders. Losing the Count and the General removed a huge driving force that the Separatists could rally behind, especially as many of their decorated leaders were dead. Without a replacement leader, the Separatists were doomed to petty infighting and incompetent leaders. More importantly, Palpatine had lost nearly all of his Jedi Killers at that point. While a few more might have died in the fighting, the war was as good as over at that point. The war might have been able to stretch for another year or two with sheer combat strength, but the Separatist Council and the true leaders knew there was no winning. Palpatine knew this all too well.
@@shade8816 In my scenario there would never be a Battle of Coruscant so Dooku would survive. Grievous was more expendable, they could always remake Maul or some fallen jedi into the next figure of terror. Slowly corrupt more jedi like Pong Krell, maybe even get a few of those on the council. Drag it on for a decade or 2.
Wow, that makes the prequels a lot deeper than I originally thought. The strengths and weaknesses of being force sensitive are nuanced somewhat nefarious. Cool video; it was entertaining and informative!
I own both the ROTS book and the Matthew Stover novel Edit: Papa Palpi played 1,000D chess against the Jedi, who were playing 2D checkers and I say the clones really got the worst of it
If the jedi order choose the CIS, maybe their connection to the force suffer less damadge, because their allies weren't living beings, so the jedi knights haven't got strong emotional connection to them.
It’s disturbing to think about how he was able to play both sides of the war an in the end the person who truly won was not the separatist or the republic it was Palpatine
I thought it would be about attrition, PTSD and mass death of existing unexperienced Jedi commanders. Do we have stories about Pre o-66 jedi commanders turning to the darkside or joining the CIS?
The Jedi Order was doomed because of their own arrogance. And ultimately, Anakin did bring balance to the Force. Just not in the way the Jedi wanted it to be.
The Jedi essentially misinterpreted the prophecy which I believe was given by the old je'dai the actual meaning would have been to destroy both the jedi and sith to bring balance to the force even the sith had their version.
I would most definitely love to see more like this one. Never had a such big “smack in the face, damn this make hella sense” in my life before this video. Like damn, so couldn’t you say that Jedi would never be able to actually win a war, even if they win the war? Still though, like damn….I really loved this video, really brings out the true sense of the clone wars, making it feel like an actual event that happened in our own world. Love it 😍
I find the checkers vs 4d chess analogy improper because it implies both sides were allowed to play with the other, its more like the sith was playing chess and everyone around him unknowingly agreed to be pawns. After all, he literally was playing both sides of the conflict without the other, even dooku, knowing the whole plan.
Short answer: Maybe. Long answer: No. The Jedi, when order 66 was enacted had no army to back them up. Planets with droids present were enemies. Planets with clones present were enemies. Even planets with relatively neutral powers like planets controlled by the Hutts were enemies. Armies, sympathetic to the Jedi such as the Wookies and the Naboo Defense Force were localized and better suited to planetary defense/policing said worlds. And in older lore, Kashyyyk and Naboo very quickly came under Imperial clone assault to destroy some remnant Jedi. The reason for the short answer being maybe is because theoretically, the Jedi could retreat from galactic affairs, as they tried to during the Mandalorian wars, if they were co-ordinated as this scenario suggests. But ultimately, given the long answer is no and the reasons detailed above, the Jedi would eventually be overwhelmed and massacred by a nearly endless imperial military if any attempt to brazenly resist the rise of the Empire was attempted. The war was lost, the moment the Jedi decided to use the clone army. If they didn't accept the clone army, then the nearly endless droid armies would overrun the Republic and the Jedi would be wiped out either way. It was a no-win scenario. The only chance they had to avert the demise of the Jedi in my view was for Dooku to realize his stupidity and reveal that Palpatine was a Sith Lord before he, himself was used to commission the clone army. Dooku held Palpatine's plan together after the unintentional 'loss' of Maul jeopardized it. Although, what Palpatine's plan was, if Maul wasn't defeated on Naboo is not clear because Maul didn't have Dooku's charisma.
@@Dalek7823 This....basically neigh-on perfectly summarizes the situation of the Clone Wars for the Jedi. They were in, to burrow a term from another franchise, a Kobayashi Maru. There was no winning, just different degrees of defeat. I would actually go even further and say the Jedi virtually lost the moment Palpatine became Supreme Chancellor. Everything after that was just finalizing the details. The only real contention I have is that Maul almost certainly was intended to fulfill Dooku's role. He doesn't display overly much personality at all, nevermind charisma, in TPM, and still doesn't show much of the latter during most of the material set before the Clone Wars, but TCW has shown quite convincingly that he can be charismatic and cunning when he needs to. Desoure popular belief for many, many years, Maul wasn't just a blind brutish assassin, meant to be fired like a missile and forgotten just as fast.
@@papapalps2415 You're right, Maul did have charisma but I don't think it was the type of charisma needed to hold a vast number of star systems together. Dooku was a respected speaker. The type you'd invite to speak at dinner parties. Maul didn't really possess that quality, he could certainly be charming though as evidenced during TCW, yes. So thinking on it further, I'd suggest that Palpatine's plan if Maul wasn't defeated on Naboo would be to assassinate the council members one by one using Maul to destabilize the Jedi. Sending Maul to Tatooine then Naboo was Palpatine beta testing this plan and if Maul was able to defeat Qui-gon, one of the strongest swordsmen of the order then he could potentially take down a good number of the order's Jedi council 1 by 1.
If the Jedi were preparing for the return of the sith why did so many Jedi stop practicing skills like battle meditation ? As it may of help prevent order 66 as they could of controlled the battlefield from a distance .
In the end though things did turn out better. Sure the Jedi got blasted down and killed off, but balance was brought to the force with Anakin fulfilling his destiny as the chosen one and Luke rebuilding the Jedi order, becoming its new Grandmaster, and giving it a much needed improvement over the old one. Think of it as like a Phoenix dying and coming back from the ashes😎👍
The Republic, too, and it's not the first time for either. Every time either is struck down, it turns out to be better that way in the long run. Wonder if that means anything...
@@robertcremin3291 Not at first, but it was on the way down pre-Empire and on the way up post-Empire. More or less. I think. And the Yuuzhan Vong might have stopped that, so it may not have really mattered.
(On Courascant during the Battle of Umbara, right after Hardcases death) (Anakin has a sad and confused look) Palpatine: Anakin, what is wrong? Anakin: I don't know, Chancellor. I feel like something bad just happened and it hurts. Palpatine: I'm sorry to hear that. I wish I could help in some way. (Inner Thoughts) Sounds like Krell killed one of the Clones he was close to. Excellent. His power in the Light is weakening and becoming corrupt. Wait I'm sensing something else. (Back on Umbara, after Waxxer's death) Cody: Are you alright, General? Obi-Wan: I sense something terrible has happened and it hurts. Boil: I might not be a Jedi, but I too feel like something awful has just happened. Cody: That can't be good. (Back with Palpatine) Palpatine: Ha. Everything is going according to the Grand Plan.
Palpatine was a Grand Master Strategist . Played the Long Game with only TWO objectives . His Ascension . And Elimination of ALL those who could Possibly Challenge him . EVERYONE was expendable to those goals .
Jedi Order: we serve the Republic but we won’t fight their wars for them
Also Jedi Order: Count Dooku’s a Sith now? Well snap, that’s all you had to say! *Ignites lightsabers*
Say this as mace windo is more funny than it should be.
Jedi angry mode activated
Oh so that’s why the Jedi wanted to intervene I thought it was just cause they were Republic puppets
"shit, nerf herder, that's all you had to say"
@@battlesheep2552 Gotta love Sam Jackson.
Order 66 was just the ICING on the Cake. Geonosis and the Clone Wars was the REAL Order 66.
Puts a whole new meaning to “JUST LIKE THE SIMULATIONS!”
“Everything has transpired, according to *MY* design!”
Yep, the sith weakened the Jedi order first and then had a swift and final blow.
Their was over 10,000 Jedi, geonosis only saw like 150 or so died
@@geetslys wait in the beginning of the video were you saying that only 200 fully trained jedi were alive BEFORE order 66 or afterwards? A bit unclear
According to this logic, jedi are actually more effective in large groups, as having other jedi around strengthens the ambient force energy in the area. That being said, the jedi would've been much better off had they deployed themselves as elite squadrons instead of generals during the clone wars.
yep
That is a cool Star Wars fact.
Palpatine wasn’t gonna let that shit happen lmao
There are two reasons that didn't happen. One, the Republic lacked much in terms of experienced combat personnel in general, leading them to pulling in the Jedi into such roles. Two, the CIS had few who could match Jedi, thus reducing the need for the Jedi to gang up.
It would've been better for the Jedi. But Sheev would have done something sketchy to not allow it...
Legends Grievous absolutely destroyed Jedi… he literally jumped down and crushed Sha’a Gi on Hypori
I understood that reference.
it's been nearly 20 years and I still feel bad for the guy
Something that I want to see is a live action General Grievous who is slaughtering Jedi left and right, like in the 2003 series, while still being voiced by Matthew Wood!
Grievous was really about that life in legends
Sha'a Gi: Like man, there is no way I'm going out there to face that cyborg.
Ki-Aid-Mundi: Would you do it for a Scooby Snack.
Sha'a Gi: Your mine Grevious! (Charges in and gets crushed).
If order 66 was activated after the first battle of Geonosis, it wouldn’t have been successful as the Jedi had not yet fully trusted the clones and would have been ready to eliminate the clones if need be. The reason why order 66 worked was because by the time the order was issued, the Jedi had come to fully trust the clones with their lives, so when the men they trusted with their lives all of a sudden started shooting at them, they were caught off guard and didn’t have enough time to process what was going on. Also there was the fact that the Jedi were weakened by warfare and spread thin across the galaxy during the final hours of the Clone Wars and the fact that The clones received the order all at once and in only a few short minutes, 99% of the Jedi Order was dead.
It also didn’t help that the Jedi were hemorrhaging members as Jedi were dying on the battlefield left and right, and as the war dragged on, they gradually lost the ability to replace the fallen. To the point that children were being thrown into combat.
@@nicholashill6314 and on top of that ,let’s just say that those children’s lightsabers became fine additions to a certain generals collection
Well it was also a Surprise Attack, which was THE BEST way to murder Jedi. It was near instant, and frequently the Jedi were ALREADY distracted by the enemy in front of them. Few Jedi would be in a position to BOTH See/Sense the attack Coming, AND have the time to react.
Even if the Jedi weren't distracted by Combat, they could have had their Lightsaber too far away. Like Shower/Bath, Sleeping, etc.
An of course the Jedi would have had a bunch of PTSD and weary of combat. Weary of being on the Front Lines. Morale was getting lower all the time. With a War that had ZERO end in sight, thanks to The Emperor controlling BOTH sides.
An with their enemy being Droids, it wasn't like losing their best members was that harmful. Doubly so when at least 1 Droid could escape or transmit Data for Future Upgrades.
Meanwhile when you lost a Jedi you could not quickly or easily replace one of that level of Skill, like you could a Droid. After all, it's not like every Padawan could replace a Jedi Knight or Master of the same power so quickly. You could only progress Jedi Learners & Padawans so fast, as a problem of Organics.
I’m pretty sure it would’ve worked in geonosis since not only do they have to deal with the droids but also the clones
@@Deathmare235 There was only a small fraction of the Jedi there. Height of their power. Weren't even seriously trusted. etc.
It would have been FAR too Early Game to do something like that.
Meanwhile Order 66 targets ALMOST Every Single Jedi in the GALAXY!
Basically the Sith stacked the deck before the Jedi even knew they were in the game, and all they could do was react. And the sith had so many contingencies and back-up plans in place no amount of reacting would stop them. And it's not as if the Sith didn't have set-backs. The war kicking off before everything was completely ready, multiple unanticipated losses, more than a few times the senate nearly put the brakes on things, but in the end they still managed to bring things to fruition, with the only major failing being Vader's injuries from his duel with Obi-Wan.
This makes Anakin's case more tragic cause his love for Padme made him stand out from all the other Jedi because whenever something terrible happens, he looks to her for comfort.
Well, Anakin also a) had a way stronger connection to the force than all the others (so even as a pure lightsider he wouldn't have easily been deafened!), not to mention that b) he did use the darkside rather frequently (the others might not have seen it, but frankly: Anakin enjoyed fighting and taking risks etc.) so that also strengthened his connection, so Anakin was able to perform up to standard despite being in the thick of it...hell, most Jedi who survived until order 66 were the stronger and more well trained and skilled! Most pure diplomats had died by that point (hell, on Geonosis the strike team led by Windu also lost all of its weaker members, those who more or less only carried a lightsaber as a badge of membership of the jedi order! The one proficient in its use survived Geonosis! Hell, that Jango Fett could simply gun down a jedi shows that some of them aren't cut out to be fighters at all!)
@@dreamingflurry2729 how many times did u say hell 👀
@@dreamingflurry2729 Anakin didn't use the Dark Side much....but he WAS borderline a lot. He was powerful, but had many tedencies that would make it easy for him to Fall, given the right Motivation/Circumstance. But he was NEVER a Dark Jedi before Ep 3.
The ironic part is that Padme had the power to stop Anakin's Transformation and save her Future Self.
"Oh yeah I commited Genocide against the Sand People, because they murdered my Mom! So I klilled the Men, Women, AND CHILDREN!"
"Oh God Anakain that's fucked up. Oh well, you're rather hot and I like you, so I'll quickly forgive you and NEVER speak of this Atrocity to Obi-Wan - the ONLY Jedi I can trust who knows our Secret!"
Like what kind of person hears someone MURDER a large group of children and go "You know what? This is NOT something i should report or talk to ANYONE about EVER!"
@@TheAyanamiRei .... tuskans... what else is there to say?
@@TheAyanamiRei well, they did kill and rape his mom, and murdered a large portion of the rescue team that went to help her, so to put it lightly… tuskens are savages plain and simple.
Is anyone really surprised that the Jedi didn’t predict this
They literally sat face to face with a Sith Lord many times ,yoda admitting his senses were clouded by the dark side while talking to said sith on scene, and never added one and one
That is two, the number of sith at any given time
The Rule of Two meant that each Sith Lord had to be strong enough to overthrow their master, or die trying. Over centuries you eventually get Palpatine.
Meanwhile the Jedi had become weak and complacent.
This was NOT the first time a Dark Side user hid in plain sight. There was one who hid openly amongst the Jedi
They knew the Emperor was bad...but not a Dark Side User. The Emperor was on par or higher than Yoda. Only with insane political skills that Yoda and the Jedi lacked.
Plus there was never enough proof until it was too late. The Emperor wasn't a nobody or even a normal politician. He was basically a President or Prime Minister.
Even if they were almost positive, if they were wrong and it was a trick...they lose. If they are successful, but can't find proof then they become seen as a bigger Galactic Criminal Force than the Hutt.
@@tonyfriendly4409 Honestly it was not their military complacency that made them lose.
It was that they didn't serve the Force Itself. They also removed themselves from Politics, which was their ultimate downfall. They allowed Corruption to Fester and Grow.
They had almost no political influence or power... unlike the Emperor.
An this isn't the first time a Dark Sider his from the Jedi in plain view over and over again.
The biggest issue is they could ONLY react, NEVER truly able to plan and get ahead. Never able to deal a decisive blow, as blocked by The Jedi's highest political ruler.
@@TheAyanamiRei true
@@omegon2540 Yeah I mean Palpatine even lays out his plan in a Reverse Scooby Doo way!!
"I NEVER would have been able to get away with it, if you pesky Jedi hadn't removed yourself from politics!!"
Now, Palpatine's Master, HE could have found a way to defeat the Jedi WITHOUT Politics, due to his Mastery over Science via The Force. Not to mention perfecting True Immortality and such.
An who knows WHAT he would have been capable of, had he been able to get his hands of Anakin for Experimentation, or at least his DNA.
1:32 I remember Bariss Offee was arrested for Jedi Temple bombing and framing Ahsoka Tano who left the Jedi Order after being disillusioned and upset of the betrayal.
Clone wars retconned her original death on Felucia (while also destroying her character in the process. One of filoni’s absolute worst fuckups.
@@thecollector4332 Well, it is possible that later episodes would have explored what in the hell happened to her that caused her drastic change in personality.
Then again, Senator Chu-chi was also set to be killed in one of the later episodes so...
Like ahsoka Tano said we were trained to be keepers of the Peace not soldiers
Well, the Republic was dumb enough to disband its armed forces (the Judicials weren't well equipped or armed and thus were at best a police force!) and the jedi either let it happen (Disney Wars canon) or actively made it happen (EU/Legends - True canon!) with the Ruusan Reformation, that disbanded the Army of Light and even the Jedi Starfighter Corps!
lord sidious: execute order 66
10 minutes later:
umm sir how do we comply with order 66 if our Jedi is dead?
Lord sidious : *find more Jedi*
Dew it
There was a thing I saw where a couple of Clone Troopers had interferences with The Emperor's Signal Command for Order 66, and they thought it was Order 69. P hilarious.
@@TheAyanamiRei what exactly is order 69
@@chaoticclonestudios If you have to ask, you're too young to know. Lmao.
"What happened to all the jedi?"
Palpatine: "I killed them... every single one of them... not just the men, but the women, and the children too... theyre like animals! And I slaughtered them like animals! I HATE THEM!"
The jedi were facing mostly droids, that might be why they were so unrestrained 8n their front line fighting.
They were not destroying life, it must have felt okay at first.
But the number of casualties of their own men piled up, slowly draining them. Them being dependent on what little life was still around them, and that life turning on them. Must have been traumatic for whoever survived.
Yes, and add to that tremendous losses for civilians (on BOTH sides) or neutral forces (independent or semi-independent planets) stuck in between the fighting, and suddenly the fight against "evil droids" seem less and less ok with each passing moment.
Well they would also lose the Clone Troopers too. Which was a loss of life which they felt strongly.
Not to mention War in general is terrible for the human Psyche.
Add in to some of their members falling. The constant stress. Being thrown in at a young age for many. etc.
it would have been a LOT of stress and pressure.
Although almost all of the ground forces and starfighters were droids, there were fair number of organics in the CIS getting killed. Their warships still had living command crews and many ground contingents had organic officers.
@@dark7element I didn't know that! Though it's not like Jedi weren't allowed to kill, it was just something seen as something to avoid typically. They wanted to be more Peace Keepers than Vigilantes.
Not to mention in that case they had little choice in the matter frequently.
Revenge of the Sith really is a tragedy of Greek proportions
This was why I was okay with Luke being disillusioned by the Jedi in TLJ. It was pride of the Jedi that destroyed themselves.
I don’t consider that canon I follow legends.
This is why I love Luke’s new Jedi order in legends they didn’t do what the old Jedi order failed to do not allow emotion and have more restrictions unlike Luke’s which was balanced
@@julianG1212 Like the crying mountain?
@@davidordaz5251 Did Legends ever allowed Force Users to make wormholes?
@@hunterkiller1440 Read Dark Empire.
The more time passes, the more I realize just how much of an incompetent leader Yoda was.
Yoda and many of the jedi are stated to be incompetent due to dark side energy, not just from the dark side nexus beneath the jedi temple but also from palpatine being so close, both of which clouded their judgement, plus due to the destruction of the jedi order being fate I'm sure jedi that could feel the will of the force saw that the jedi were supposed to be in the war, the real reason unbeknownst to them of course
I mean he was a wise monk, not a general who spent years training to win wars.
He did lead the clone army to victory until their betrayal, did he not? Anyone can be blind to deception.
I'd defiantly watch a longer video on the Sith Grand Plan. One from the time of Bane would be terrific, but just going from Plaugus and Sidius finalizing things would be good too.
Last time I was this early, Anakin was still busy putting Younglings to sleep.
5:22 At least Meetra Surik didn't fall to the Dark Side of the Force.
Realistically given that the Galactic Republic had a population in the quadrillions if not quintillions the Jedi order should've numbered in the millions.
It might've if they were still using the old temples and enclaves, like the one on Dantooine from KOTOR, during the clone wars.
The one temple can only hold so many Jedi
maybe they did, before they dropped to 10,000 over the course of the Clone Wars
Make it better there were so few...the galaxy was massive and tens of thousands of systems and planets abound. Jedi Knights were known but rarely seen before the clone wars. They were Religious warrior monks that harnessed incredible powers. Most civilians never had seen a Jedi before, some hadn't even heard of em.
We know in the distant past, at least, that the Jedi used to be far more numerous, because even putting aside implict details from the New Sith Wars and such, there is explict mention in the TPM novelization of 'billions' of Jedi Knight journals being archived. Considering how long the Jedi and Republic have been around for, and depending on just how many billions that is, well...
@@mister_matt No, the battle of Geonosis, the clone wars, and even adding Dooku and Grievous themselves, could not have killed that many jedis. More realistically, before Geonosis, the Jedis were already in the tens of thousands order of magnitude, though more than 10 000. 20 000? 40 000? Hard to tell. But certainly not hundreds of thousands and even less millions.
I would like a single video about how the surviving jedi felt and reacted to order 66 (if it has not already been done) and video explain the full sith grand plan would be awesome.
Second! :) - Hell, that the survivors were going silently into the night is something that infuriates me, especially Yoda and Obi-Fail (yes: I dislike the character, because he wasn't man enough to end Anakin!) foisting off the job of taking care of Vader and the Emperor on Luke! Damned, Luke was an innocent, that he was force sensitive and being the son of Anakin Skywalker didn't in any way, shape or form make that his responsibility! That was the Jedi's fuckup and their responsibility to clean up! In fact they should have done everything in their power to end the Emperor (even crashing a Star Destroyer into his palace etc. - Everything goes in this case, except not taking responsibility!)
One point of disagreement at around 3:30 when you mentioned that the Jedi had been preparing to fight the Sith the way they had in antiquity. They weren't preparing at all and were fully convinced the Sith were extinct and final victory had been achieved. That's what created so much tension between Dooku and Yoda because Dooku did want to be prepared, leading to his leaving the order and eventual fall. And I may be mistaken but I think that same determination to stick their heads in the sand was why Sifo Dyas hid some of his visions from Yoda and was so easy to convince to help secretly create the clones for the GAR.
Jedi: You're under arrest Chancellor Palpatine
Clones: It's Treason Then
I remembered watching the scenario about the Jedi fought for the Separatists from Lore Guy and if it is possible, I would like to see this channel's intepretation of this scenario as well.
I second this motion.
The Jedi Order were fools for having only one active temple by the time of the clone wars.
Palpatines extermination of the jedi TRULY began many years before the two hundred lost on that fateful day on geonosis. With incidents like the project outbound flight, palpatine had been wiping out jedi by the dozens long before
Pong Krell is the first Jedi to be attacked by Captain Rex and the 501st Legion willingly because of his traitorous actions.
He wasn’t really even a Jedi, He was a sith in disguise
@@ChristianNationalist654 well that what happens when a Jedi Falls to the dark side. Many Jedi that fall to the dark side often become excellent Sith Lords due to quality of Jedi training and high quality of Force senstives.
@@ChristianNationalist654 dark side force user, but not a sith
Times when the Jedi were playing *Checkers* and the Sith were playing *4D Chess*
At 2:02, he says that clones wouldn't give away that they're about to kill the Jedi at Order 66, yet at least Yoda sensed the clones near him were going to kill him.
I would LOVE to see a longer video on this subject.
Best star wars content on TH-cam, keep up the good work Geetsly.
They sent the whole Jedi army to save one guy.
That’s your answer.
I would like a longer video on this subject as more post-Order 66 content (like how the different Jedi survivors reacted to the new order).
Order 66 sums up what happens when arrogance overpowers rationality. You trust something so much and feel as if nothing can go wrong. The very people, system and life even that you live is so seemingly direct and straightforward that truth itself now eludes you. Simply being told you're fighting for "good" is enough to reassure you of your actions. A truly horrific tale of the dangers of complacency.
This comment is gold
So the real Order 66 was the friends we made along the way?
The novelization of revenge of the sith is so much better than the movie was capable of being. I loved the narration of the battle between anakin and dooku. Being inside dookus mind completely changes that fight. It's incredible
I always wondered why the jedis during order 66 were surrounded by clones, i never would’ve imagined they they had lost their power from fighting, wow. Great video!
Thank you for this one. It's cleared up something about the storyline that's bothered me for a long time.
WHY did Palpatine construct such a Rube Goldbergian plan? Why not something much more straight forward - using the droid army to assault the Jedi directly. It's hard to decide which part of Palpy's plan was more important - destruction of the Jedi or absolute power. Probably destruction of the Jedi. That seems to have been his emotional core.
Start the Clone Wars, push the Jedi forward as generals - a role which they never wanted and for which they were manifestly unsuited - as Qui-Jon Jinn said. And, of course he was correct. The Jedi were not soldiers. That's a central truth that the Jedi clearly understood but they seem to have surrendered to fate. As if they couldn't escape their own destruction so, Zen-like, they simply submitted to it. Perhaps Yoda felt this was the Will of the Force? Perhaps. It might explain his own peculiar passivity.
It makes the byzantine plot more coherent.
It was BOTH. The War was just the best way to kill the Jedi since he could do it the best.
The only way to get Ultimate Political Power is through War as we saw.
But ONLY The Jedi were strong enough to REMOVE him from Power.
Doubly so after he showed he was NOT a benevolent dictator, but an evil one.
Wouldn't it have been easier for Palpatine to just keep the clone wars going, until most of the Jedi were already dead. Jedi loses were greater then Jedi recruitment so it would just be a matter of time. Perhaps arrange a few accidents for more troublesome Jedi like Joda and Windu (good luck protecting yourself with the force when a hacked droid botches a hyperspace jump into a star or blows the reactor of your vessel).
The problem was that the Separatists had lost their two main front-lime leaders. Losing the Count and the General removed a huge driving force that the Separatists could rally behind, especially as many of their decorated leaders were dead. Without a replacement leader, the Separatists were doomed to petty infighting and incompetent leaders. More importantly, Palpatine had lost nearly all of his Jedi Killers at that point.
While a few more might have died in the fighting, the war was as good as over at that point. The war might have been able to stretch for another year or two with sheer combat strength, but the Separatist Council and the true leaders knew there was no winning. Palpatine knew this all too well.
@@shade8816 In my scenario there would never be a Battle of Coruscant so Dooku would survive. Grievous was more expendable, they could always remake Maul or some fallen jedi into the next figure of terror. Slowly corrupt more jedi like Pong Krell, maybe even get a few of those on the council. Drag it on for a decade or 2.
I see that MASH quote in the description. An always apt description of any conflict
I like how he describes the lightside. This boost through interconnectedness isn't shown in the films as vicerally as it maybe could
This was great and informative. I'd love to watch that longer, more in depth video.
Nicely explained and well presented.
Wow, that makes the prequels a lot deeper than I originally thought. The strengths and weaknesses of being force sensitive are nuanced somewhat nefarious. Cool video; it was entertaining and informative!
I’m supposed to be asleep because I have an exam tomorrow. I just can’t stop watching these amazing videos!
I own both the ROTS book and the Matthew Stover novel
Edit: Papa Palpi played 1,000D chess against the Jedi, who were playing 2D checkers and I say the clones really got the worst of it
If the jedi order choose the CIS, maybe their connection to the force suffer less damadge, because their allies weren't living beings, so the jedi knights haven't got strong emotional connection to them.
More actually, cos of war crimes committed by the separatists
Is that why Pong Krell fell so easily to the Dark side?? Because if so that's really consistent and excellent writing 🤯
The Senate made sure to rid the Jedi off of the galaxy.
If the jedi got depressed because of war. Wouldn't order 66 just be assisted suicide?
Last time I was this early, some guy got yelled at in a theater...
It’s disturbing to think about how he was able to play both sides of the war an in the end the person who truly won was not the separatist or the republic it was Palpatine
They are literally clones of a known Jedi killer in the criminal underworld......Let that sink in.
I would love to see another video on this subject, a longer one would be even better!
Long live the galactic empire!!!!
This is where democracy dies, with thunderous applause
6:37 Naboo would beg to differ
WOW ! This REALLY explains a lot . Divide and conquer.
Take out the words force, jedi and dark side from this script and it sounds like how real life works, huh
I thought it would be about attrition, PTSD and mass death of existing unexperienced Jedi commanders. Do we have stories about Pre o-66 jedi commanders turning to the darkside or joining the CIS?
The Jedi Order was doomed because of their own arrogance. And ultimately, Anakin did bring balance to the Force. Just not in the way the Jedi wanted it to be.
The Jedi essentially misinterpreted the prophecy which I believe was given by the old je'dai the actual meaning would have been to destroy both the jedi and sith to bring balance to the force even the sith had their version.
Until he didn’t, since “Somehow Palpatine returned”.
@@Alec11_43 he did bring back balance to the force and killed Palpatine in episode 6 since their only 6 films
@@davidordaz5251 Oh yeah, I don’t know what I was talking about there; weird. Thank goodness that never happened(in either continuity).
@@Alec11_43 haha yeah
Cheers
Yeah! That would be cool!
Is that Hawkeye from M.A.S.H you quoted in your description? Great quote and could not agree with him more.
Thanks for the great contecnt, Yes i'd love to see a longer video please
It like in star trek . Kobayashi maru . ( a no win scenario)
I would love to see a video that digs deeper into this 👍
Asoka didn’t even know how to be what a Jedi was supposed to be. There was so much war she only knew how to fight
"The curse, worse than a cancer, is the arrogance."
The ruthless efficiency of the rule of two.
great content!! keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!!
Now this is what you call "playing the long game".
Dude where you get that cover art on the video? That looks really beautiful.
9:33 did you mix up your walkers
I was under the impression that they were below 10 in number by 22bby. And they were steadily dwindling in number with every year
I would most definitely love to see more like this one. Never had a such big “smack in the face, damn this make hella sense” in my life before this video. Like damn, so couldn’t you say that Jedi would never be able to actually win a war, even if they win the war? Still though, like damn….I really loved this video, really brings out the true sense of the clone wars, making it feel like an actual event that happened in our own world. Love it 😍
Loved it. Would love more
Wow soooo good video
If the Jedi win the war, they die. If the Jedi lose the war, they die.
I find the checkers vs 4d chess analogy improper because it implies both sides were allowed to play with the other, its more like the sith was playing chess and everyone around him unknowingly agreed to be pawns. After all, he literally was playing both sides of the conflict without the other, even dooku, knowing the whole plan.
I thought it was four years.
It’s kinda funny that, arguably, the most popular war in Star Wars wasn’t actually a real war 🤔🤷♂️
"Insidious: awaiting a chance to entrap : treacherous. harmful but enticing : seductive; intended to entrap or beguile:an insidious plan."
That must be one reason Palpatine used clones and not droids. The dieing clones weakened the jedi but droids wouldn't have.
If the Jedi order was coordinated when Order 66 was executed, could they have resisted and survived?
They could have even overthrown Palpatine
For sure
Short answer: Maybe. Long answer: No. The Jedi, when order 66 was enacted had no army to back them up. Planets with droids present were enemies. Planets with clones present were enemies. Even planets with relatively neutral powers like planets controlled by the Hutts were enemies. Armies, sympathetic to the Jedi such as the Wookies and the Naboo Defense Force were localized and better suited to planetary defense/policing said worlds. And in older lore, Kashyyyk and Naboo very quickly came under Imperial clone assault to destroy some remnant Jedi.
The reason for the short answer being maybe is because theoretically, the Jedi could retreat from galactic affairs, as they tried to during the Mandalorian wars, if they were co-ordinated as this scenario suggests. But ultimately, given the long answer is no and the reasons detailed above, the Jedi would eventually be overwhelmed and massacred by a nearly endless imperial military if any attempt to brazenly resist the rise of the Empire was attempted.
The war was lost, the moment the Jedi decided to use the clone army. If they didn't accept the clone army, then the nearly endless droid armies would overrun the Republic and the Jedi would be wiped out either way. It was a no-win scenario. The only chance they had to avert the demise of the Jedi in my view was for Dooku to realize his stupidity and reveal that Palpatine was a Sith Lord before he, himself was used to commission the clone army. Dooku held Palpatine's plan together after the unintentional 'loss' of Maul jeopardized it. Although, what Palpatine's plan was, if Maul wasn't defeated on Naboo is not clear because Maul didn't have Dooku's charisma.
@@Dalek7823 This....basically neigh-on perfectly summarizes the situation of the Clone Wars for the Jedi. They were in, to burrow a term from another franchise, a Kobayashi Maru. There was no winning, just different degrees of defeat. I would actually go even further and say the Jedi virtually lost the moment Palpatine became Supreme Chancellor. Everything after that was just finalizing the details.
The only real contention I have is that Maul almost certainly was intended to fulfill Dooku's role. He doesn't display overly much personality at all, nevermind charisma, in TPM, and still doesn't show much of the latter during most of the material set before the Clone Wars, but TCW has shown quite convincingly that he can be charismatic and cunning when he needs to. Desoure popular belief for many, many years, Maul wasn't just a blind brutish assassin, meant to be fired like a missile and forgotten just as fast.
@@papapalps2415 You're right, Maul did have charisma but I don't think it was the type of charisma needed to hold a vast number of star systems together. Dooku was a respected speaker. The type you'd invite to speak at dinner parties. Maul didn't really possess that quality, he could certainly be charming though as evidenced during TCW, yes.
So thinking on it further, I'd suggest that Palpatine's plan if Maul wasn't defeated on Naboo would be to assassinate the council members one by one using Maul to destabilize the Jedi. Sending Maul to Tatooine then Naboo was Palpatine beta testing this plan and if Maul was able to defeat Qui-gon, one of the strongest swordsmen of the order then he could potentially take down a good number of the order's Jedi council 1 by 1.
That thumbnail! Omg!! Haha I love seeing when a clone uses a barret .50 cal on some clankers!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Does that mean if Yoda had fought Sidious before the war, he may very well have won?
It's possible he might have won had the battle simply been fought on level ground.
not to mention they had to rush knights, because the veterans were dying too quickly from grievous, ventress, or dooku himself
this a re-upload I remember seeing you do a similar
video?
If the Jedi were preparing for the return of the sith why did so many Jedi stop practicing skills like battle meditation ? As it may of help prevent order 66 as they could of controlled the battlefield from a distance .
Palpatine probably planed on this order 66 was just a finnishing move!🔥
So basically the Jedi are doomed regardless.
Very interesting
In the end though things did turn out better. Sure the Jedi got blasted down and killed off, but balance was brought to the force with Anakin fulfilling his destiny as the chosen one and Luke rebuilding the Jedi order, becoming its new Grandmaster, and giving it a much needed improvement over the old one. Think of it as like a Phoenix dying and coming back from the ashes😎👍
The Republic, too, and it's not the first time for either. Every time either is struck down, it turns out to be better that way in the long run. Wonder if that means anything...
@@samueldimmock694 I mean, at least in legends the Republic wasn’t really better after the empire than it was before
@@robertcremin3291 Not at first, but it was on the way down pre-Empire and on the way up post-Empire. More or less. I think. And the Yuuzhan Vong might have stopped that, so it may not have really mattered.
Yes i would like a longer video
Palpatine: "Omae wa mou no shindeiru."
Jedi Order: "Nani?!"
(On Courascant during the Battle of Umbara, right after Hardcases death)
(Anakin has a sad and confused look)
Palpatine: Anakin, what is wrong?
Anakin: I don't know, Chancellor. I feel like something bad just happened and it hurts.
Palpatine: I'm sorry to hear that. I wish I could help in some way. (Inner Thoughts) Sounds like Krell killed one of the Clones he was close to. Excellent. His power in the Light is weakening and becoming corrupt. Wait I'm sensing something else.
(Back on Umbara, after Waxxer's death)
Cody: Are you alright, General?
Obi-Wan: I sense something terrible has happened and it hurts.
Boil: I might not be a Jedi, but I too feel like something awful has just happened.
Cody: That can't be good.
(Back with Palpatine)
Palpatine: Ha. Everything is going according to the Grand Plan.
66 videos in Everything Jedi Playlist....
Nice Easter Egg
Palpatine was a Grand Master Strategist . Played the Long Game with only TWO objectives .
His Ascension . And Elimination of ALL those who could Possibly Challenge him .
EVERYONE was expendable to those goals .
Palpatine, Dooku and Grievous were all broken mentally from having to deal with Nute Gunray's bitch ass the entire war.
Sidious was playing a long and calculated game of chess putting Jedi into bad position
...the Empire could never last...they had no honour...