@Dcrainmaker Hey man Nick Woodman said in an interview that max superview has a linear look to it when using the max lens mod v2 Is this correct? I always shoot linear as I'm not a fan of the fisheye look and would love a wider FOV that's straight on the sides and edges
Woah. Just stopped in here for the first time. You are a waaay better reviewer than some of the other ones I've been watching regarding this topic, some of which were basically acting like advertisers. You talk a bit fast, but you also cover a LOT of ground, and give tons of valuable information while also being easy to understand. Kudos.
Great video. You forgot 1 thing though: mic adapter requirement for go pro for long videos (without bt) vs direct USB type c for DJI OA4. I wish this would have made it to gpa12. Other than this and battery charging speed, I think it's a great update
Yeah, the GoPro Media Mod has that covered, but I do agree I wish GoPro would support native USB-C mics (albeit, there isn't a great standard there oddly enough), instead, I just wish they offered a cheap USB-C to 3.5mm adapter akin to what DJI does.
LOVED this in-depth review! The decision-swaying note for me was the fact both the internal & bluetooth mics are recorded together with the option to choose in post-production. Def will make me worry less about an external mic bugging out/sounding bad knowing that the internal mic will still be there as a backup!
Fantastic no nonsense overview - thank you. 👍 Some useful upgrades in this one (log and wireless mic, 1/4" hole,) and I always like GoPro slow-mo. Still DJI's Action4 20minutes to 80% charge and front touch screen have a bit of an edge in everyday do-it-all usability. The GPS is a bit odd subtraction, no doubt contributed to lower cost and better heat management. It is a feature I don't use most often - true - but when I want one that's when I reach for an action cam, so not having it..., I think, the on/off option would have been better. BTW great overheating experiment incidental find! 😃Cool t-shirt too😜
No GPS is a deal breaker for me. I agree with you...they should have left it in as an option to turn on or off, or even had two versions of the camera one with and one without. I think this is a big miss by GoPro. I'm hoping they'll come up with a remote GPS or something similar to what Insta 360 and Osmo Action 4 have. Otherwise, I'm done with GoPro.
@@nikolastankovic648 Provides telemetry data critical for motorsports enthusiasts and pros. Others may want to know their exact location, GPS path, and/or how fast they were traveling while shooting the video and have that all recorded by the camera instead turning to a phone or watch.
First GoPro since the Hero 9 that I consider buying. Especially because of the 10 bit and flat profile, much better Dynamic Range in HDR and non-jitter for FPV (GoPro is the only one of the big 3 that produces jitter free image, when it gets really shaky... they really nailed that.) I also barely have my Hero9s crashing but I'm using the Sandisk Extreme Pro as well. That rumored 1" sensor for better low light would have suited it well tho ;)
i was surprised gopro 10 could handle vibrations being installed on a mtb's handlebar. yeah, the footage gets more blurry, compared to a chest mount, but still usable
The one piece I’m upset about is they took out the GPS that has been in the GoPro’s since I believe 5 GoPro and some nice features, but takes away from a feature
The argument that GoPro made that very few people use the stickers in the Quik mobile app is because they made it so hard to use. Had they not deleted the Desktop version, people would have used it much more. They made it cumbersome, and now they dropped it. At least they could add gps functionality to the Quik mobile app to add gps data to gopro video files later if needed. I still pre-ordered the 12 since I already have previous cameras to use for gps, the 10, 9, 7...etc. But if their claims of the improvements do not prove to be real, then I will probably return it. There are some scenarios such as scubadiving when I disabled gps anyway since it does not work under water and drains battery. But I cannot accept that in the diving case at 30m depth the gopro overheats in the water. They could at least design a diving case that transfers heat better from the gopro to the exterior if needed.
@@octny GoPro forced users to use a mobile app. A cell phone just does not have the power of a desktop. I used the excellent Telemetry Overly software to put telemetry on my videos. I joke that it is the software that GoPro should have provided. (I hope not; GoPro made Dashware obsolete.) The Sticker use is a false metric since it was only good for very short videos.
Im thinking of upgrading from osmoaction 1 to GoPro 11 or 12 out seems that the GoPro 12 has hdr Video which go pro 11 does not have. I was disappointed this summer on the underwater photos are and film from the osmo action1 even at 4k. GPS is not big deal for me. I never use it for vlogging. Battery life is much more important. Overheating you just need wind cold air to keep it cool. Still that 50 pound difference between the 11 and 12 is significant and the deals for the GoPro 11 is so much cheaper and better.
Ordered it last night! Coming from the 10 -12 should be well worth it,especially with the subscriber discount I got and the max lens mod.I’ve never had any issues at all with my 10 so don’t believe the haters.GoPro makes an awesome camera
Hi DC Rainmaker, Thanks for the hard work and time putting these videos together. It gives a more holistic overview of what the GP is capable to do without all the noise and complaints from past GP users who rightfully and unrightfully had bad experiences. An idea for your future contents is to add: 1) buyer’s guide: - when should consumers upgrade from previous versions of same brand or when to switch from one brand to another - considerations for switching from one brand to another - workarounds as every cam brand has some things we don’t like and/or affects our use cases, including what the product is intended for …to name a few! A couple things I would like to add to your video contents are: 1) pricing: - base cam only - includes accessories - consistent drive price or not from my one gen to another. For example, no one mentions DJI kept price low on A1, increased it significantly on A2 at $529 and now lowered it, A3 is lower and now A4 is higher. Needs to consider when following the brand upgrades - overheating: this is thermal management and physics. When you have a small form factor and it is waterproof, there’s no place for heat dissipation except make the body out of magnesium alloy and/or use passive heat sinks or active cooling. Couple this with high frame rate and resolution settings and surely it will heat up. If you know this already, then when you shoot short form and with airflow, then no issue. If long form, turn off BT, GPS, wifi and screen resolution down that makes it heat up more. What Sony calls tripod mode and GP did in GP10. Or add a regular fan for airflow or attach a phone active cooling fan or lots of active cooling fans on Aliexpress. Overheating are common issues with all the mirrorless cams, small body, little passive heat sinks or no magnesium bodies and weatherproof so heat traps. Some of these cams have active cooling and it doesn’t overheat but is big Battery life. This comes to power management circuitry. Hopefully the way Apple does it with their custom SOCs and the power management is really good but not cheap and these action cams will move up to the $700-$1000+
What a great review (again 😊)!Does GPS removal mean photos and video don’t include location shots they were taken from? Or there is an alternative way this info gets associated to the footage? Thanks a lot
Was torn between the action 4 and hero12. The eco system of the GoPro along with the higher resolutions as well as wider pov/stability sold me. I’m not coming from an 11 so no disappointment here. Stoked.
@@DaveSimkus that’s initially why I wanted the action4. Ordered it…then back tracked and went GoPro12. Hell next year may be a clearer winner. I’m pretty excited about the eco system of GoPro and tbh the race is so tight…it sold me. For reference, I have a Nikon z9 and black magic along with Dji drone for my event/weddings. Action camera will add some versatility I didn’t have before. For me, they are both very close in comparison. One just offered more imo. And in post regarding pixel density is where the 5k kinda sold me as well.
Yeah, exactly those 3 pointed sold me too compared to the OA4. Just a more crisp and stable image in the example in this vid. I've also heard of very poor customer support with DJI from multiple sources (from retailers, DJI drone and OA owners). Check online to see all the countless complaints, also including how bad their Mimo app is. GoPro's customer service seems to be much better. I don't know why this video didn't touch on this because this is an important factor when deciding which to go with.
Well done. I'll stick with GoPro as I love Reelsteady (faster, easier, better results than Gyroflow) and like the additional crop real estate of 5.3 going down to 4k. I won't upgrade from my 10 to the 12 - had hoped to do that but there's not enough for me to tempt me.
The bench mark of reviews....a couple dropped yesterday but they aren't a DC review. Very grateful for the time and effort you put in to your reviews they are the make and break whether I spend my ££££ I won't be updating to a 12.....love the Bluetooth mic....hate the removal of the GPS and that's the deal breaker.
Ray, thank you for this incredibly detailed look at HERO12 Black 🙌 We're excited for your upcoming videos + to see you continue to put your camera to the test.
Dji action 4 still beats your new GPH12 in much longer runtime (overheating👀), lowlight, and quality (most of the time). I would pick up the action 4 today if I had to choose between the two because if you charge that much for an action camera, overheating should be the last thing I should worry about.
I used GPS on every single video I ever made using Telemetry Overlay. ONE GUY out codes your billon dollar company. Thanks for deleting me as a customer by removing GPS.
FOV improvements are nice but as someone who bought a GoPro originally for motorsports the removal of the GPS has me quite sour. Thanks for being the only one to call that out....I still think the Hero 11 is the best camera on the market right now for that reason. Thanks for sharing that mount base...thing looks awesome. Definitely will be picking that up in the future.
It would be great if you did a thorough low-light comparison showing different shutter speeds, iso values, with and without stabilization, moving vs stationary. I've been able to get pretty good stabilzed running video at night with my Action 4 keeping the shutter speed high enough and removing some noise in post. Definitely better than anything I could get with the gopro 9 (when it worked at all). Had to use a gimbal then.
yes you are right, OA4 just keep a slow shutter speed to keep the image quality (around 1/400-1/500), the details are much better than gopro12, if you set the shutter to 1/800 manuell the stablizition and image quality are both better than gopro because of bigger sensor.
I don’t think enough attention is paid to the app. As a travel camera, being able to charge it at night and have all the footage automatically dumped into the cloud is amazing. Then you can quickly highlight the parts to want or trim then quickly in the app. Super awesome for vacations
Ordered on Wednesday... then saw DCR's video that highlighted the removal of GPS... cancelled the order today. I'll stick with my 11, 10, 9 and Max. I intended to sell the 9 and get the 12 but the loss of GPS is for me disappointing; I am used to documenting where my photos and videos are shot using the GPS, never noticed the battery impact.
I thought the Falcam DJI adapter mount was going to be the perfect quick release for me, but it rattles like crazy on a bike mount (under the outfront mount). And in my experience at least, it also only works with DJI Action 2 mounts, not the slightly modified DJI Action 3/4 mounts that have an additional rubber piece to prevent rattle. Also, one of the provided screws that you need to use because it's a different depth than the GP stock ones stripped a hole in my GP11. Just for people's full awareness.
Hmm, interesting. How old is your adapter? There's two versions of it now, and I got mine a week or two ago. I used/showed it with an Action 4 mount in the video, and it snaps in. The rattle it seems like I need to crank down the GoPro finger mount side a bit more with a screwdriver, but do wish the tolerances were better there.
@@Dcrainmaker Mine are about two weeks old. I've tried both versions, the 3-in-1 and also the 5-in-1 arca swiss compatible one. Using either one with my DJI Action 2 mounts (either the official mount, or a Smallrig branded one), the rattle is caused by play in the actual DJI mount clips themselves. I can rotate the GP 2-3 degrees in either direction when clipped in, so it's just bouncing around in the mount. Now that I check again, my Action 3/4 compatible mount is not an official one like I thought it was, but a Telesin-branded one. I suppose it's possible that's why the rubber piece in the middle prevents the camera from locking into place.
@@jhoff80are you the person who wrote about the screws stripping the camera body on Amazon? I was going to buy it, but I don’t think saving 30 seconds to mount a camera is worth stripping the screw holes. Did you strip the screw, the mount or the camera?
Last week I bought the Falcom 3235 adapter (=3234 + ARCA mount) and noticed rattling. @PhillipSkraba suggested applying a patch of rubber on the mount. I've then put a small patch of 3M tape in the middle of the magnetic DJI mount and the rattling is gone. You just have to push the camera onto the magnetic mount a little.
The bottom line is that if you have a Hero 11 or even maybe a Hero 10 then upgrading to the Hero 12 probably isn't worth the investment. But, if you are like me and you are coming from a Hero 8, then the upgrades are pretty significant and worth the investment. Also, since I have a subscription I get $100 off the camera, which basically lets me toss in a couple extra batteries and still get a discounted price. Thanks as always for the practical and thorough review.
I would replace the 9 with the 12 (or the 11 for the GPS) as the 9 is very sluggish to operate, mine is anyway compared to the 10 and 11. @@THELIFEOFCB
Grit your teeth and stick to the 9. The GP13 will be the new major release (they change things every 4 cycles) and best to go for that. Of course, if your 9 is not working or anything then go for the 12.
@@anups7958 but waiting for the major update (GP13) could also mean that the battery will change. This is why I bought a GP8 instead of a 9 because I had a bunch of batteries and charger from my 7. Had I moved to the 9 I would have had to buy all new batteries. Just something to consider. I believe the 12 still uses the same batteries as the 9, 10, and 11.
Outstanding review and informative comparisons. Appreciate the straightforward comments, lake of sensationalism, with pros and cons of different features when comparing between different devices and brands.
Ahhh man!!!! As a huge cyclist who uses the gps data for training this is a major deal breaker. It's a shame too because I was looking to upgrade from my hero 9 black. No GPS chip is a no go.
Great review, I just bought one today for my upcoming birthday. I’m coming from a Hero 4 black that still works when I smash it on a flat solid surface. I saved your video so I won’t have to go the manual when it arrives! thank you random internet person.
The Log recording sounds like the real innovation here! I’ll be upgrading for that alone, but I can see why non-professionals are disappointed. Thanks as always for the detailed review 🙏
@@jacobscoville2044 the last time I used Labs on the Hero 10, the camera became unreliable and constantly froze up. I guess I’ll give it another try on the 11!
So GoPro used their app to figure out who uses GPS? The app is awful so many don't ever use it. I download all my footage to my PC then use Premiere so how would GoPro know?
Charging the batteries slower is a good thing. Rapidly charging batteries significantly reduces their lifespan. The slower charge time is probably intentional, because it's better overall, but they cannot talk about it publicly. Most of their customers wouldn't understand or believe them. During fast charging, a battery is pounded by power surges, which would normally burn it up if this peaking power level were constant. Nonetheless, it does do damage like death by a thousand paper cuts.
@@Dcrainmaker No. I'm an electronics engineer. There's no black magic for surging a battery and not causing damage, nor is there any kind of magic that will send more power without sending more power. Not only does it decrease the life expectancy, but also its ability to hold a charge will decrease each time. Batteries are electrochemical, so they will deteriorate no matter what (hardly solid state), but that process can definitely be accelerated.
Im glad to see GoPro made a better camera then my Hero 10. Is it a upgrade from Hero 11, no its not. But for me that have the Hero 10, I would skip Hero 11 and buy the Hero 12. But I also have the action 4, and for what I seen so far the action 4 looks better. But the biggest question, can you trust the Hero 12 from bugs and freeze. That gonna be fun to see over time
I can't help but feel a certain bias of you here... The night footage of the Action 4 is a million times better without any question. And that's even on a small screen 😅
😂 DJI is just less crap than GoPro for low light. For low light why don’t people use a mirrorless camera? Action for low light is just not physically possible at the moment 😊
What I find interesting…few of the other big camera reviewers have done a review of the the GoPro 12; I’m talking Gerald Undone, Potato Jet, IPhone-do etc. , few reviews at all in fact. So thank you! And very comprehensive! I’m not sure if so little changes they just simply didn’t bother or maybe waiting for a production model or once DC has done such a good one, why bother? Still some good improvements on a nice action camera.
When you cover overheating, could you add power banks to the equation too please. I leave the battery out of the gopro and just connect a power bank to it instead so I can run it for hours when riding my motorcycle. Granted I still have a gopro hero 5 though, but haven't any overheating issues with it and was wondering if the new gopros are the same.
Surprised how 'no GPS' isn't a bigger point... having GPS locations on my photos and videos is for me the primary way I organize my files. 9/10 times when I look for something I know either where or when it was taken. Like I feel crazy for saying this, but e.g. in Google Photos being unable to search for a location name to find my videos might actually be a deal breaker for me 😕
I use a GPS app on the iPhone to record the GPS data throughout the trip, then add it to all my photos in Lightroom Classic automatically. Still, there are steps to be performed but I also have other cameras such as DSLR which do not have GPS, and need to add it separately.
DC Rainmaker, allways a trusty reviewer! thanks 👍🍻 I will be gettin' the new hero 12 because its a huge upgrade for me, I do like the new hdr video feature that would help me a lot also about the gps module - I think I have it on hero 7 - never used before, not even once. Cant wait the other videos! 😅
Thanks for the great review as usual!! Does GP-log replace flat colour profile in 10-bit or is the flat profile still available on 10-bit mode? I presume that flat colour profile still available in 8-bit? What kind of LUTs is Gopro providing? Log to Gopro colours only?
I have the Hero 10. For me, it works just fine. I hate that I need the media mod in order to use a wireless mic. I hope DJI comes out with a better camera and features in the future. GoPro is just making small incremental changes that in my opinion don't justify the cost.
After testing with my hero 11 I notice couple of things. The 8:7 view that everybody talks so much, you can only shoot in WIDE. In order to get a Superview or Hyperview you need to import the footage in your phone(no windows app yet) and choose lens and then export again the video but that is creating a video of lower quality. If you try to crop the footage in Davinci you will not get the same view. GoPro is using a special method that is pulling the sides somehow. Yes it is useful in 9:16 crop but that is it. And no shortcut to turn front screen on or even to be able to save a preset that has front screen on. Why when you are in the main screen and press power button twice for example to be able to turn on and off front screen. You have to go in the settings and press screen lock and then choose what view you want and then press again to exit. WOW!
@@Icelandlover It's odd, it looks perfectly fine to me in Final Cut Pro, but agree, something isn't looking right on TH-cam. Odd, will dig into it. Fwiw, I don't color grade anything on my videos, just shoot and done. That A-roll camera hasn't moved in years, so my guess is something different is happening/changed on the FCPX export.
I could not believe that the action 4 was better in low light, I wonder which of the two companies will be the first to give us a 1” sensor camera. Even a 18mm lens would do
Thanks for your -as usual - great and helpful video. Regarding the GPS, no possibility to get the location from the phone it is paired to through the app, like for many hybrid cameras ? BTW, I think the colors from GoPro much better than DJI’s one.
As someone riding a bicycle, I have been looking for a good GoPro to stick on my full face helmet and to have any video be so smooth just like how we see the world in the naked eye. So for all the GoPros out there, which do you suggest is the best so far?
Your reviews are the best in the biz. You’re even swimming with it as part of the review! Amazing. Thanks for the overheating tests. Sometimes I need to film long videos. I like the Hero12 update, the camera looks sweet and I could use that extra run time on my motorcycle vlogs here in India and Pakistan.
Thanks for the review. I just recently started using Go Pro. I wished there was a way I could schedule a you tube live when I use the Go Pro Quick App with my go Pro and iPhone. Most I can tell you just have to go live and that it.
Any testing of HDR video in a mountain biking context? MTB TH-camr Clint Gibbs tested the new 12 using HDR video on MTB trails and experienced repeated loss of stabilization that made the video unusable. Only happened on extremely rough conditions, like mountain biking. Didn't happen when testing HDR video while running or holding steady. Check out his H12 review video to see.
As a motorcycle vlogger I've decided to move away from GoPro. The terrible "crackling" noise while riding and talking is why I walked away from GoPro. I wish you had addressed that problem. I have used every setting suggested and still get the crackling on my GoPro 9, 10, and 11.
Which ever brand will first able to do usable night footage will get all my future money. I would say that I want that more than GPS. Seriously if they remove GPS why not the Mini body. Otherwise just give us the software option. Yes I use it. Otherwise I might as well use my DJI Osmo Pocket as I'm not doing wet weather recording and not extreme sports. Then I have F1.8 lens at least. It never overheats and image quality is good. Essentially I need to stick with my old GoPro with the new battery options
Thank you. Many answers at last. So in low light at 60fps the Action 4 introduces jitters (like my Action 2) that look very annoying? It defeats the larger sensor better low light abilities. I use the action cameras under the surface of the ocean, where at times it is dim if the surface water is murky. It is better to have more grain than jitters. So in real world dim conditions the GoPro is better than the DJI Action from your findings. I have the Hero 10 and 11. The 12 is a bit disappointing, appealing only for the longer battery life. The GPS it is nice to use to geotag some locations occasionally, in the water, when I do not have the phone. The Hero 10 at $249 seems the best deal of all. It would be nice for the international audience if you would also give temperature in Celsius (but I was listening without watching the parts about audio and overheating ) great breakdown as always. Lost of work you put in shooting and editing all this.
Yeah, the Action 4 jitters are fairly well documented. Sure, it does them in true low light, but my main concern is actually barely low light (just trees on a sunny day). I haven't taken the Action 4 diving yet, maybe in a few weeks. I'd agre that the Hero 10 at $249 is pretty solid, albeit, if you have a GoPro sub, then $299 for the Hero 12 might be worth it. And yeah, sorry about celcius - I have it in my for my overheating video, but at nearly 3AM, I was just kinda over doing more titles... 😂
@@Dcrainmaker I was hoping dji would fix the jitters with the Action 4. When in the water I always record at 60fps as it is good to slow down a bit, as fish can move fast. The action 4 has an appealing 18m water resistance. But the door feels very flimsy and not as secure as the GoPro’s when I compared them at a store. I wonder if in the real world the GoPro’s sealing/waterproofing is more reliable.
As I understand it, the problem with the camera overheating indoors has not gone away. I'm really looking forward to the extended video about overheating.
Excellent, excellent review I have just ordered one. It would be very useful if you could make a short video what attachments do you use to put the GoPro 12 on the bike’s handlebar and can you turn it side ways while riding if there is a nice scenery there and also behind the saddle what attachments do you use and also how you operate them in both position on long rides! As capture mode will not work behind the saddle and the voice command as far as I know cannot turn the GoPro 12 on! I think that would be a good video especially for people new to GoPro. Thanks! Gabor
Are there any framing guides so can see what 9 x 16 and 16 x 9 footage will look like hopefully concurrently (switch between two so would be super helpful footage) ?
Lucky i watched this before buying the Hero 12. Now i'm definitely not gonna buy it. No GPS? Really? I use GPS every single time for my timelapse. I have Hero 10, and will like the Hero 12 for Max TimeWarp at 4k, but need the GPS. So i will stay at my Hero 10 and Max TimeWarp at only 2.7k sadly :( Hope Hero 13 will get back the GPS :/
just got the 11 black at Target for 220 price mistake deal, now im glad i didnt miss much from the 12 features, thank you! looking forward for the new Iphone 15 Pro camera compare to DJi4 and Hero12 LOL
Thanks for the great summary! Any chance you’ll upload GP-log (5.3k 60) and dlog-m (4k 60) raw footage of the same scene to your folder? Really interested to try grading both myself and seeing how they compare
I still have the hero 5 and I still dont know everything. Sometimes when there are SO MANY FEATURES on a camera it can become OVERWHELMING to a NEW customer, even intimidating. I know I am not the only one who wonders why they need all those features? Which is why i will stay with my Hero 5 and Hero 360 camera😊
Hey folks, thanks for watching! Don't forget about the massive Beginners Guide/Tutorial video here: th-cam.com/video/IbzJVWV4pAo/w-d-xo.html
Hi! I loved your review! Where can I find the link to the magnetic 4-in-1 mount you mentioned at 5:56?
No one compares to your reviews. This is insane attention to details!
Thanks - I appreciate it!
@Dcrainmaker Hey man
Nick Woodman said in an interview that max superview has a linear look to it when using the max lens mod v2
Is this correct?
I always shoot linear as I'm not a fan of the fisheye look and would love a wider FOV that's straight on the sides and edges
Facts, especially the articles he writes on the products. It's like a dissertation. Much appreciated!
Brown-nosing much?!
Woah. Just stopped in here for the first time. You are a waaay better reviewer than some of the other ones I've been watching regarding this topic, some of which were basically acting like advertisers. You talk a bit fast, but you also cover a LOT of ground, and give tons of valuable information while also being easy to understand. Kudos.
The osmo action 4 overall is the best of all vlogging cameras, I never regret getting rid of my gopro 10 nothing beats the action 4...for 2023
Great video. You forgot 1 thing though: mic adapter requirement for go pro for long videos (without bt) vs direct USB type c for DJI OA4. I wish this would have made it to gpa12. Other than this and battery charging speed, I think it's a great update
Yeah, the GoPro Media Mod has that covered, but I do agree I wish GoPro would support native USB-C mics (albeit, there isn't a great standard there oddly enough), instead, I just wish they offered a cheap USB-C to 3.5mm adapter akin to what DJI does.
@dcrainmaker will the GP12 sync with blue tooth microphones directly like the Rode/DJI blue tooth mics?
i received my Gopro 11 yesterday, and I'm happy with it, not much of a big difference to me between the 11 & 12, the 11 will serve it's purpose 😍👍
LOVED this in-depth review! The decision-swaying note for me was the fact both the internal & bluetooth mics are recorded together with the option to choose in post-production. Def will make me worry less about an external mic bugging out/sounding bad knowing that the internal mic will still be there as a backup!
Fantastic no nonsense overview - thank you. 👍 Some useful upgrades in this one (log and wireless mic, 1/4" hole,) and I always like GoPro slow-mo. Still DJI's Action4 20minutes to 80% charge and front touch screen have a bit of an edge in everyday do-it-all usability. The GPS is a bit odd subtraction, no doubt contributed to lower cost and better heat management. It is a feature I don't use most often - true - but when I want one that's when I reach for an action cam, so not having it..., I think, the on/off option would have been better. BTW great overheating experiment incidental find! 😃Cool t-shirt too😜
No GPS is a deal breaker for me. I agree with you...they should have left it in as an option to turn on or off, or even had two versions of the camera one with and one without. I think this is a big miss by GoPro. I'm hoping they'll come up with a remote GPS or something similar to what Insta 360 and Osmo Action 4 have. Otherwise, I'm done with GoPro.
What do you need GPS for on camera? Don't wear a phone or watch?
@@nikolastankovic648 It provides telemetry data that's vital if you're into motorsports.
@@nikolastankovic648 Provides telemetry data critical for motorsports enthusiasts and pros. Others may want to know their exact location, GPS path, and/or how fast they were traveling while shooting the video and have that all recorded by the camera instead turning to a phone or watch.
First GoPro since the Hero 9 that I consider buying. Especially because of the 10 bit and flat profile, much better Dynamic Range in HDR and non-jitter for FPV (GoPro is the only one of the big 3 that produces jitter free image, when it gets really shaky... they really nailed that.) I also barely have my Hero9s crashing but I'm using the Sandisk Extreme Pro as well. That rumored 1" sensor for better low light would have suited it well tho ;)
i was surprised gopro 10 could handle vibrations being installed on a mtb's handlebar. yeah, the footage gets more blurry, compared to a chest mount, but still usable
@@MrBirdshell666 With Insta & DJI it will result in heavy jello instead.
The one piece I’m upset about is they took out the GPS that has been in the GoPro’s since I believe 5 GoPro and some nice features, but takes away from a feature
Same
The argument that GoPro made that very few people use the stickers in the Quik mobile app is because they made it so hard to use. Had they not deleted the Desktop version, people would have used it much more. They made it cumbersome, and now they dropped it. At least they could add gps functionality to the Quik mobile app to add gps data to gopro video files later if needed. I still pre-ordered the 12 since I already have previous cameras to use for gps, the 10, 9, 7...etc. But if their claims of the improvements do not prove to be real, then I will probably return it. There are some scenarios such as scubadiving when I disabled gps anyway since it does not work under water and drains battery. But I cannot accept that in the diving case at 30m depth the gopro overheats in the water. They could at least design a diving case that transfers heat better from the gopro to the exterior if needed.
@@octny GoPro forced users to use a mobile app. A cell phone just does not have the power of a desktop. I used the excellent Telemetry Overly software to put telemetry on my videos. I joke that it is the software that GoPro should have provided. (I hope not; GoPro made Dashware obsolete.)
The Sticker use is a false metric since it was only good for very short videos.
Im thinking of upgrading from osmoaction 1 to GoPro 11 or 12 out seems that the GoPro 12 has hdr Video which go pro 11 does not have. I was disappointed this summer on the underwater photos are and film from the osmo action1 even at 4k. GPS is not big deal for me. I never use it for vlogging. Battery life is much more important. Overheating you just need wind cold air to keep it cool. Still that 50 pound difference between the 11 and 12 is significant and the deals for the GoPro 11 is so much cheaper and better.
Ordered it last night! Coming from the 10 -12 should be well worth it,especially with the subscriber discount I got and the max lens mod.I’ve never had any issues at all with my 10 so don’t believe the haters.GoPro makes an awesome camera
GoPro is a peace of sh*t, I have Hero 5 and now 10. They both over heats, no enough battery life. Now I bought DJI Action 4, way way better
Hi DC Rainmaker,
Thanks for the hard work and time putting these videos together.
It gives a more holistic overview of what the GP is capable to do without all the noise and complaints from past GP users who rightfully and unrightfully had bad experiences.
An idea for your future contents is to add:
1) buyer’s guide:
- when should consumers upgrade from previous versions of same brand or when to switch from one brand to another
- considerations for switching from one brand to another
- workarounds as every cam brand has some things we don’t like and/or affects our use cases, including what the product is intended for
…to name a few!
A couple things I would like to add to your video contents are:
1) pricing:
- base cam only
- includes accessories
- consistent drive price or not from my one gen to another. For example, no one mentions DJI kept price low on A1, increased it significantly on A2 at $529 and now lowered it, A3 is lower and now A4 is higher. Needs to consider when following the brand upgrades
- overheating: this is thermal management and physics. When you have a small form factor and it is waterproof, there’s no place for heat dissipation except make the body out of magnesium alloy and/or use passive heat sinks or active cooling. Couple this with high frame rate and resolution settings and surely it will heat up.
If you know this already, then when you shoot short form and with airflow, then no issue. If long form, turn off BT, GPS, wifi and screen resolution down that makes it heat up more. What Sony calls tripod mode and GP did in GP10.
Or add a regular fan for airflow or attach a phone active cooling fan or lots of active cooling fans on Aliexpress.
Overheating are common issues with all the mirrorless cams, small body, little passive heat sinks or no magnesium bodies and weatherproof so heat traps. Some of these cams have active cooling and it doesn’t overheat but is big
Battery life. This comes to power management circuitry. Hopefully the way Apple does it with their custom SOCs and the power management is really good but not cheap and these action cams will move up to the $700-$1000+
What a great review (again 😊)!Does GPS removal mean photos and video don’t include location shots they were taken from? Or there is an alternative way this info gets associated to the footage? Thanks a lot
Was torn between the action 4 and hero12. The eco system of the GoPro along with the higher resolutions as well as wider pov/stability sold me. I’m not coming from an 11 so no disappointment here. Stoked.
You probably won't notice that slightly higher resolution. The big thing that does make a difference is sensor size and there the DJI wins.
@@DaveSimkus that’s initially why I wanted the action4. Ordered it…then back tracked and went GoPro12. Hell next year may be a clearer winner. I’m pretty excited about the eco system of GoPro and tbh the race is so tight…it sold me. For reference, I have a Nikon z9 and black magic along with Dji drone for my event/weddings. Action camera will add some versatility I didn’t have before. For me, they are both very close in comparison. One just offered more imo. And in post regarding pixel density is where the 5k kinda sold me as well.
Yeah, exactly those 3 pointed sold me too compared to the OA4. Just a more crisp and stable image in the example in this vid. I've also heard of very poor customer support with DJI from multiple sources (from retailers, DJI drone and OA owners). Check online to see all the countless complaints, also including how bad their Mimo app is. GoPro's customer service seems to be much better. I don't know why this video didn't touch on this because this is an important factor when deciding which to go with.
Well done. I'll stick with GoPro as I love Reelsteady (faster, easier, better results than Gyroflow) and like the additional crop real estate of 5.3 going down to 4k. I won't upgrade from my 10 to the 12 - had hoped to do that but there's not enough for me to tempt me.
The bench mark of reviews....a couple dropped yesterday but they aren't a DC review. Very grateful for the time and effort you put in to your reviews they are the make and break whether I spend my ££££
I won't be updating to a 12.....love the Bluetooth mic....hate the removal of the GPS and that's the deal breaker.
Ray, thank you for this incredibly detailed look at HERO12 Black 🙌 We're excited for your upcoming videos + to see you continue to put your camera to the test.
lets goooooo
People might have used the GPS if you provided a way to access it
Dji action 4 still beats your new GPH12 in much longer runtime (overheating👀), lowlight, and quality (most of the time). I would pick up the action 4 today if I had to choose between the two because if you charge that much for an action camera, overheating should be the last thing I should worry about.
We didn't use gps stickers because the app suck, it was horrible experience to use it, that why !
I used GPS on every single video I ever made using Telemetry Overlay. ONE GUY out codes your billon dollar company. Thanks for deleting me as a customer by removing GPS.
FOV improvements are nice but as someone who bought a GoPro originally for motorsports the removal of the GPS has me quite sour. Thanks for being the only one to call that out....I still think the Hero 11 is the best camera on the market right now for that reason.
Thanks for sharing that mount base...thing looks awesome. Definitely will be picking that up in the future.
It would be great if you did a thorough low-light comparison showing different shutter speeds, iso values, with and without stabilization, moving vs stationary. I've been able to get pretty good stabilzed running video at night with my Action 4 keeping the shutter speed high enough and removing some noise in post. Definitely better than anything I could get with the gopro 9 (when it worked at all). Had to use a gimbal then.
can u tell your settings friend?
yes you are right, OA4 just keep a slow shutter speed to keep the image quality (around 1/400-1/500), the details are much better than gopro12, if you set the shutter to 1/800 manuell the stablizition and image quality are both better than gopro because of bigger sensor.
I think he always leaves the rocksteady+ on. Even I’m getting better performance in low light in default mode itself.
I don’t think enough attention is paid to the app. As a travel camera, being able to charge it at night and have all the footage automatically dumped into the cloud is amazing. Then you can quickly highlight the parts to want or trim then quickly in the app. Super awesome for vacations
Agree, no reviews mention the apps for downloading and edit content.
"all the footage dumped into the cloud". Lol - you take 30 second clips? Or do you travel only where there is 1Gbps upload speeds....
@@ec-uploads 8hrs isn’t enough time to upload your daily GoPro footage?
@@PhotoBob a single-day off-roading generates about 95 GB Goodluck uploading that on a hotel internet connection
Bring an external drive. There's also a wifi enabled HDD drive that lets you browse your files wirelessly.
Another great video. I'm not sure if I am upgrading from the 10 though. I may wait 1 more year for the 13
I've watched a nearly 18 mins video on action cameras and I don't care much about them. That's how good Ray is 👍👍
Dank u wel meneer!
Hahah...thanks!
12:00 😳 I guess I'm just imagining my Hero 10 overheating after recording for less than 5 minutes then... Silly me lol
Great video as always. Love that instead of just showing, you also explain. Works great on my drives!
Ordered on Wednesday... then saw DCR's video that highlighted the removal of GPS... cancelled the order today. I'll stick with my 11, 10, 9 and Max. I intended to sell the 9 and get the 12 but the loss of GPS is for me disappointing; I am used to documenting where my photos and videos are shot using the GPS, never noticed the battery impact.
I thought the Falcam DJI adapter mount was going to be the perfect quick release for me, but it rattles like crazy on a bike mount (under the outfront mount). And in my experience at least, it also only works with DJI Action 2 mounts, not the slightly modified DJI Action 3/4 mounts that have an additional rubber piece to prevent rattle. Also, one of the provided screws that you need to use because it's a different depth than the GP stock ones stripped a hole in my GP11. Just for people's full awareness.
Hmm, interesting. How old is your adapter? There's two versions of it now, and I got mine a week or two ago. I used/showed it with an Action 4 mount in the video, and it snaps in. The rattle it seems like I need to crank down the GoPro finger mount side a bit more with a screwdriver, but do wish the tolerances were better there.
@@Dcrainmaker Mine are about two weeks old. I've tried both versions, the 3-in-1 and also the 5-in-1 arca swiss compatible one.
Using either one with my DJI Action 2 mounts (either the official mount, or a Smallrig branded one), the rattle is caused by play in the actual DJI mount clips themselves. I can rotate the GP 2-3 degrees in either direction when clipped in, so it's just bouncing around in the mount.
Now that I check again, my Action 3/4 compatible mount is not an official one like I thought it was, but a Telesin-branded one. I suppose it's possible that's why the rubber piece in the middle prevents the camera from locking into place.
@@jhoff80are you the person who wrote about the screws stripping the camera body on Amazon? I was going to buy it, but I don’t think saving 30 seconds to mount a camera is worth stripping the screw holes. Did you strip the screw, the mount or the camera?
Last week I bought the Falcom 3235 adapter (=3234 + ARCA mount) and noticed rattling. @PhillipSkraba suggested applying a patch of rubber on the mount. I've then put a small patch of 3M tape in the middle of the magnetic DJI mount and the rattling is gone. You just have to push the camera onto the magnetic mount a little.
Great review. Any comparisons between the max lens mod 1.0 vs 2.0 on the hero 12?
The bottom line is that if you have a Hero 11 or even maybe a Hero 10 then upgrading to the Hero 12 probably isn't worth the investment. But, if you are like me and you are coming from a Hero 8, then the upgrades are pretty significant and worth the investment. Also, since I have a subscription I get $100 off the camera, which basically lets me toss in a couple extra batteries and still get a discounted price. Thanks as always for the practical and thorough review.
What about if you have the 9
I would replace the 9 with the 12 (or the 11 for the GPS) as the 9 is very sluggish to operate, mine is anyway compared to the 10 and 11. @@THELIFEOFCB
Still rocking my GP7.
Nice small form factor. StilL does 4k so plenty good enough.
Grit your teeth and stick to the 9. The GP13 will be the new major release (they change things every 4 cycles) and best to go for that.
Of course, if your 9 is not working or anything then go for the 12.
@@anups7958 but waiting for the major update (GP13) could also mean that the battery will change. This is why I bought a GP8 instead of a 9 because I had a bunch of batteries and charger from my 7. Had I moved to the 9 I would have had to buy all new batteries. Just something to consider. I believe the 12 still uses the same batteries as the 9, 10, and 11.
I use my GoPro mainly for sailing. The GPS is a must for me. Removal of the GPS is a downgrade.
Action 4 still better for me. Thank you for the video though 🙂
Thanks for watching!
i can clearly say you have the best detailed gopro reviews in youtube.
Outstanding review and informative comparisons. Appreciate the straightforward comments, lake of sensationalism, with pros and cons of different features when comparing between different devices and brands.
Ahhh man!!!! As a huge cyclist who uses the gps data for training this is a major deal breaker. It's a shame too because I was looking to upgrade from my hero 9 black. No GPS chip is a no go.
Great review, I just bought one today for my upcoming birthday. I’m coming from a Hero 4 black that still works when I smash it on a flat solid surface. I saved your video so I won’t have to go the manual when it arrives! thank you random internet person.
Just preordered one 2 days ago cant wait to record my mountain biking
The lack of GPS is a massive bummer. I have a Hero 9 and may just upgrade to Hero 11.
The Log recording sounds like the real innovation here! I’ll be upgrading for that alone, but I can see why non-professionals are disappointed. Thanks as always for the detailed review 🙏
Hero 11 had log with GoPro Labs
@@jacobscoville2044 the last time I used Labs on the Hero 10, the camera became unreliable and constantly froze up. I guess I’ll give it another try on the 11!
You are my GoTo reviewer for everything GoPro related .
Keep it up .
So GoPro used their app to figure out who uses GPS? The app is awful so many don't ever use it. I download all my footage to my PC then use Premiere so how would GoPro know?
They employ ignorant people apparently.
Charging the batteries slower is a good thing. Rapidly charging batteries significantly reduces their lifespan. The slower charge time is probably intentional, because it's better overall, but they cannot talk about it publicly. Most of their customers wouldn't understand or believe them. During fast charging, a battery is pounded by power surges, which would normally burn it up if this peaking power level were constant. Nonetheless, it does do damage like death by a thousand paper cuts.
There’s lots of ways though to properly fast charge without meaningfully impacting battery life.
@@Dcrainmaker No. I'm an electronics engineer. There's no black magic for surging a battery and not causing damage, nor is there any kind of magic that will send more power without sending more power. Not only does it decrease the life expectancy, but also its ability to hold a charge will decrease each time. Batteries are electrochemical, so they will deteriorate no matter what (hardly solid state), but that process can definitely be accelerated.
Im glad to see GoPro made a better camera then my Hero 10. Is it a upgrade from Hero 11, no its not. But for me that have the Hero 10, I would skip Hero 11 and buy the Hero 12. But I also have the action 4, and for what I seen so far the action 4 looks better. But the biggest question, can you trust the Hero 12 from bugs and freeze. That gonna be fun to see over time
I can't help but feel a certain bias of you here...
The night footage of the Action 4 is a million times better without any question. And that's even on a small screen 😅
As I specifically noted, the Action 4 footage looks better on a small screen. But on larger screens neither is really usable.
😂 DJI is just less crap than GoPro for low light. For low light why don’t people use a mirrorless camera? Action for low light is just not physically possible at the moment 😊
Does the lack of GPS make in-car racetrack footage with integrated lap time and vehicle metrics not a use case for the Hero 12?
Correct.
Correct. They fired us as customers. Lol at carrying other crap in the racecar. " uSe youR IpPhonE"
What I find interesting…few of the other big camera reviewers have done a review of the the GoPro 12; I’m talking Gerald Undone, Potato Jet, IPhone-do etc. , few reviews at all in fact. So thank you! And very comprehensive! I’m not sure if so little changes they just simply didn’t bother or maybe waiting for a production model or once DC has done such a good one, why bother? Still some good improvements on a nice action camera.
Thanks. Fwiw, this is a production model and the final production firmware.
So basically dji4 for the win thank you.
When you cover overheating, could you add power banks to the equation too please.
I leave the battery out of the gopro and just connect a power bank to it instead so I can run it for hours when riding my motorcycle. Granted I still have a gopro hero 5 though, but haven't any overheating issues with it and was wondering if the new gopros are the same.
Surprised how 'no GPS' isn't a bigger point... having GPS locations on my photos and videos is for me the primary way I organize my files. 9/10 times when I look for something I know either where or when it was taken. Like I feel crazy for saying this, but e.g. in Google Photos being unable to search for a location name to find my videos might actually be a deal breaker for me 😕
I use a GPS app on the iPhone to record the GPS data throughout the trip, then add it to all my photos in Lightroom Classic automatically. Still, there are steps to be performed but I also have other cameras such as DSLR which do not have GPS, and need to add it separately.
Thanks for the review! Eagerly awaiting the Log / HDR sample files.
Some things are worth the wait and your reviews of new Gopros are the best, Thank You!
Much appreciated!
DC Rainmaker, allways a trusty reviewer! thanks 👍🍻
I will be gettin' the new hero 12 because its a huge upgrade for me, I do like the new hdr video feature that would help me a lot also about the gps module - I think I have it on hero 7 - never used before, not even once.
Cant wait the other videos! 😅
Thanks for this. Based on your use which would you prefer hero 12 or action 4?
Nice video. Great work. Keep it up man. Your content is helping a lot of people.
Appreciate it!
Thanks for the great review as usual!! Does GP-log replace flat colour profile in 10-bit or is the flat profile still available on 10-bit mode? I presume that flat colour profile still available in 8-bit? What kind of LUTs is Gopro providing? Log to Gopro colours only?
Also is the GP-Log available for max lens 2.0 mode?
Got 9 and still goings strong that's all I ever needed
I have the Hero 10. For me, it works just fine. I hate that I need the media mod in order to use a wireless mic. I hope DJI comes out with a better camera and features in the future. GoPro is just making small incremental changes that in my opinion don't justify the cost.
Awesome review. I didn't upgrade last year, so i"m still using the 10. And I use my cameras all the time. I'm excited to upgrade!
Sticking with DJI great review though
Only things we need to know... Have they improved the batteries? Does it still need an adapter for a microphone?
Blue specks is the biggest deal breaker for me...
Probably a jacket to fix that but yeah it’s ugly lol
After testing with my hero 11 I notice couple of things. The 8:7 view that everybody talks so much, you can only shoot in WIDE. In order to get a Superview or Hyperview you need to import the footage in your phone(no windows app yet) and choose lens and then export again the video but that is creating a video of lower quality. If you try to crop the footage in Davinci you will not get the same view. GoPro is using a special method that is pulling the sides somehow. Yes it is useful in 9:16 crop but that is it. And no shortcut to turn front screen on or even to be able to save a preset that has front screen on. Why when you are in the main screen and press power button twice for example to be able to turn on and off front screen. You have to go in the settings and press screen lock and then choose what view you want and then press again to exit. WOW!
The video from the studio looks low contrast or washed out.
Agreed. I think that as I know how much hard work such detailed reviews require, he may have forgotten the proper video color grating.
@@Icelandlover It's odd, it looks perfectly fine to me in Final Cut Pro, but agree, something isn't looking right on TH-cam. Odd, will dig into it. Fwiw, I don't color grade anything on my videos, just shoot and done. That A-roll camera hasn't moved in years, so my guess is something different is happening/changed on the FCPX export.
It looks like what happens when HDR footage gets rendered as non-HDR and becomes completely washed out
Excellent as always. Always my go to tech source
Thanks!!!
I could not believe that the action 4 was better in low light, I wonder which of the two companies will be the first to give us a 1” sensor camera. Even a 18mm lens would do
Can you compare this with the insta360 go 3? i'm curious about the video quality..
Thank you so much for your hard work and dedication. I own an Action 3 and thanks to you i am considering the GP12.
Thanks for your -as usual - great and helpful video. Regarding the GPS, no possibility to get the location from the phone it is paired to through the app, like for many hybrid cameras ?
BTW, I think the colors from GoPro much better than DJI’s one.
Sadly no option to gather from phone. I hope someday that happens
@Dcrainmaker they need to do an about-face admit they screwed up and release a GPS Hero 12 immediately
Great review, however I would love for you to also mention Celsius, only a small minority of the world uses Fahrenheit
Great review. I’m surprised Go Pros have such short battery life.
As someone riding a bicycle, I have been looking for a good GoPro to stick on my full face helmet and to have any video be so smooth just like how we see the world in the naked eye. So for all the GoPros out there, which do you suggest is the best so far?
Thanks for the in depth review! Can HDR and 10 bit both be activated together? Not sure how those 2 settings affect each other
Following
Yes, they can be.
@@GoPro thank you for confirming! 😇
When you did the overheating test comparison (11 vs 12), did you turn GPS off on the Hero11?
Nope, kept it as defaults.
@@Dcrainmakerdo you, by chance, have the thermal numbers of the hero 11 with GPS off?
Your reviews are the best in the biz. You’re even swimming with it as part of the review! Amazing. Thanks for the overheating tests. Sometimes I need to film long videos. I like the Hero12 update, the camera looks sweet and I could use that extra run time on my motorcycle vlogs here in India and Pakistan.
Thanks Karl!
No GPS jus broke the deal for me/Thks for the honest and upfront review
Thanks for the review. I just recently started using Go Pro. I wished there was a way I could schedule a you tube live when I use the Go Pro Quick App with my go Pro and iPhone. Most I can tell you just have to go live and that it.
4:28 this is a great option to have if you're using it for vlogging,interview, etc
I was about to buy an ice cream but now I want a HERO12 after watching this amazing video!
Great video and love the Thread+Spoke t-shirt!
Any testing of HDR video in a mountain biking context? MTB TH-camr Clint Gibbs tested the new 12 using HDR video on MTB trails and experienced repeated loss of stabilization that made the video unusable. Only happened on extremely rough conditions, like mountain biking. Didn't happen when testing HDR video while running or holding steady. Check out his H12 review video to see.
As a motorcycle vlogger I've decided to move away from GoPro. The terrible "crackling" noise while riding and talking is why I walked away from GoPro. I wish you had addressed that problem. I have used every setting suggested and still get the crackling on my GoPro 9, 10, and 11.
This was very informative and helped my purchase thank you!
I don't mind losing GPS for the speed data but I do like to Geotag all my photos/videos (or where the video started) instead of manually pinning them
Used a camera in my career class and I want one now 😂
Which ever brand will first able to do usable night footage will get all my future money. I would say that I want that more than GPS.
Seriously if they remove GPS why not the Mini body. Otherwise just give us the software option. Yes I use it. Otherwise I might as well use my DJI Osmo Pocket as I'm not doing wet weather recording and not extreme sports. Then I have F1.8 lens at least. It never overheats and image quality is good.
Essentially I need to stick with my old GoPro with the new battery options
Yeah, we saw Insta360 get close there on good night footage with their 1" variant...at least until you moved. Then it...well...wasn't good.
Thank you. Many answers at last. So in low light at 60fps the Action 4 introduces jitters (like my Action 2) that look very annoying? It defeats the larger sensor better low light abilities. I use the action cameras under the surface of the ocean, where at times it is dim if the surface water is murky.
It is better to have more grain than jitters. So in real world dim conditions the GoPro is better than the DJI Action from your findings.
I have the Hero 10 and 11. The 12 is a bit disappointing, appealing only for the longer battery life. The GPS it is nice to use to geotag some locations occasionally, in the water, when I do not have the phone.
The Hero 10 at $249 seems the best deal of all.
It would be nice for the international audience if you would also give temperature in Celsius (but I was listening without watching the parts about audio and overheating ) great breakdown as always. Lost of work you put in shooting and editing all this.
Yeah, the Action 4 jitters are fairly well documented. Sure, it does them in true low light, but my main concern is actually barely low light (just trees on a sunny day). I haven't taken the Action 4 diving yet, maybe in a few weeks. I'd agre that the Hero 10 at $249 is pretty solid, albeit, if you have a GoPro sub, then $299 for the Hero 12 might be worth it. And yeah, sorry about celcius - I have it in my for my overheating video, but at nearly 3AM, I was just kinda over doing more titles... 😂
@@Dcrainmaker I was hoping dji would fix the jitters with the Action 4. When in the water I always record at 60fps as it is good to slow down a bit, as fish can move fast.
The action 4 has an appealing 18m water resistance. But the door feels very flimsy and not as secure as the GoPro’s when I compared them at a store. I wonder if in the real world the GoPro’s sealing/waterproofing is more reliable.
As I understand it, the problem with the camera overheating indoors has not gone away. I'm really looking forward to the extended video about overheating.
This is very nice for geology field trips.
What were they thinking when they remove the GPS????? pfffff crazy
Excellent, excellent review I have just ordered one. It would be very useful if you could make a short video what attachments do you use to put the GoPro 12 on the bike’s handlebar and can you turn it side ways while riding if there is a nice scenery there and also behind the saddle what attachments do you use and also how you operate them in both position on long rides! As capture mode will not work behind the saddle and the voice command as far as I know cannot turn the GoPro 12 on! I think that would be a good video especially for people new to GoPro. Thanks! Gabor
Where can we get that Gopro LUT ?
lol why you cant just say dji action 4 is better in low light? its clear that theres much less noise in shadows and more details
I literally said that numerous times, but if you pull the footage up on a big screen - none of it is great from either.
Are there any framing guides so can see what 9 x 16 and 16 x 9 footage will look like hopefully concurrently (switch between two so would be super helpful footage) ?
Lucky i watched this before buying the Hero 12. Now i'm definitely not gonna buy it. No GPS? Really? I use GPS every single time for my timelapse.
I have Hero 10, and will like the Hero 12 for Max TimeWarp at 4k, but need the GPS. So i will stay at my Hero 10 and Max TimeWarp at only 2.7k sadly :(
Hope Hero 13 will get back the GPS :/
Been waiting for this review!
Me too, done! :)
just got the 11 black at Target for 220 price mistake deal, now im glad i didnt miss much from the 12 features, thank you! looking forward for the new Iphone 15 Pro camera compare to DJi4 and Hero12 LOL
Thanks for the great summary! Any chance you’ll upload GP-log (5.3k 60) and dlog-m (4k 60) raw footage of the same scene to your folder? Really interested to try grading both myself and seeing how they compare
how do I get access to this folder?
would love to see that comparison, too.
With sharpening and noise reduction set to lowest on the Action 4.
I still have the hero 5 and I still dont know everything. Sometimes when there are SO MANY FEATURES on a camera it can become OVERWHELMING to a NEW customer, even intimidating. I know I am not the only one who wonders why they need all those features?
Which is why i will stay with my Hero 5 and Hero 360 camera😊
Fantastic review. I'm seriously thinking about buying this model now 🤓
This guy in 17’min said what I would take 6H to say 🫡
100% effective 👍
+1 SUB 😊
GPS is gone!? Why!?