Daughter cheated. Wants to lie in court. Mom says great idea. Mom see emotional damage this does on the children. Mom loses contact with her own son and almost her own marriage. Lost almost everything, not a great plan
Well said. Plus, my heart hurts for OP's grandkids, when they hit their teens, they'll disappear on/cut off contact with her and their mother, and couch-surf with fake friends (the wrong types of friends), next, at 18, the granddaughter will find solace with/marry a boy who's a cheating narcissist, become homeless with a baby on the way, then, flee to another state, and stay temporarily with roommates, until after she gives birth, find a cheaper apartment, work two jobs to provide for her one-parent household, and rely on neighbors as her support system, because she won't have her dad John, or other relatives in her new state to come to her aid; the only family the granddaughter and her baby will have is each other. At 16, the grandson will gravitate toward a girlfriend who lives with her mother and stepfather, only to end up getting her pregnant, and disowned by her stepfamily, move with his girlfriend to another state to stay with her bio-father and stepmother, get his GED certificate, at 17, and marry his girlfriend, on his 18th birthday.⚠️
@@a_randomuser4 You double posted. But yes although that’s a possibility, there needs to be specific safeguards in place to prevent the law from being too vague/corruptible (true of any law).
I'd be interested to hear his take on this situation. Also, what was the final straw for him to finally go LC with the OP? It obviously has to do with his sister but what were the specifics? I'm sure his story could fill an entire video itself.
I agree, karma was owed and karma was paid. The mother was protecting her "precious little girl" so much that she turned into a monster. Op created an entitled monster.
I don't think it was a happy ending. The OP deserved way worse for all of her horrible behavior and terrible choices. The fact that she finally admitted the truth (probably mostly because perjury would get her thrown in jail and because her husband would have left her) doesn't make up for everything she did up to that point. And I think the husband is stupid to stay with someone who so willingly accepted criminal and immoral behavior just to make a spoiled brat happy
I don't have to hear the rest of the story, to know that there is a space in hell waiting for both OP and her precious daughter. It could be fake, but considering there are people just like those 2 in the world...
I've always taken possible fake stories as "with almost 8 billion people alive, it's possible some form of this story happened somewhere" Tho filing fake DV report are "common" enough that this situation is possible enough
My little witch of step daughter and her mom tried this stunt against my husband. Thank the heavens her own mom (step daughter's Gran) stood up and gave the courts a soulful lashing about her conniving daughter's evilness (😂). The judge even looked ashamed. She even brought Jesus and Mother Mary into it. Sometimes being a good parent isn't about catering to your child but standing up to them. Also my step son voiced how he overhead his mom and sis plotting against my husband multiple times.
They are diabolical. They deserve every consequence. The reason the daughter is willing to cheat and ruin her own life is cause mommy always comes to save the day.
@@gamingwityaboicolby1217 Have you just discovered these stories today? Learn to differentiate between fake and real stories like these and stop believing everything on the internet.
Gotta love Mommy’s denial: “I used to cover for her all the time whenever she got into trouble or lied to get her way.” “This woman who gets into trouble and lies to get her way is NOT THE DAUGHTER I RAISED!!!” Baby, yes TF it is!!!
im not convinced John is actually "cold" or "not interested" in being a father. I feel like this is a lie by the mother just so she doesnt get blasted further.
Or a lie from the daughter to self justify being a cheating slut that the mother was all too willing to believe because she thinks her daughter can do no wrong.
Yeah she's capping hard. She's just saying that because he's not actively taking the role of mothering the kids so he can have all of the responsibilities while she has none. This is a perfect example of a woman wanting all the authority and no responsibilities while simultaneously making the man responsible for everything and taking away his authority.
No 4 year old cries as he goes to bed because dad isn't around if dad just sleeps there, goes to work, and doesn't do anything to raise his kids. Clearly he's more involved than she claimed.
'I lied to get my daughters husband arrested.' 'Emotional neglect is just as bad as physical abuse'. This tells you all you need to know about these two women. Ridiculous and disgusting behavior.
Emotional abuse is abuse, and it can be as bad as physical abuse. I’ve been in many discussions of victims of abuse where those who suffered exclusively non-physical abuse often wish their abuser would have abused them physically, because physical abuse leaves evidence that helps them be believed, whereas people are often reluctant to believe people who have only suffered non-physical forms of abuse because the evidence of it is harder to understand. That said, the first sentence does tell you everything you need to know about both of these women.
@@ATTACKofthe6STRINGS No one mentioned emotional abuse. The video said emotional neglect. Just because someone thinks their partner is neglecting them, doesn't mean it's abuse. In this story it sounds like the wife cried neglect to give her an excuse to cheat then tried to get the guy arrested for DV so she couldn't be blamed for the divorce and fallout of her own actions. If anyone was abusive in that relationship I'd say it's her. The fact the OP - her mother - helped her get the husband arrested on false charges tells me exactly how she was raised as well.
@@ATTACKofthe6STRINGS emotional neglect and emotional abuse are FAR from the same thing. Case in point, you yourself say people are reluctant to believe emotional abuse, however if a woman tells anyone that her boyfriend, husband, etc is "So cold and distant, I feel neglected," people are gonna believe that easily. Neglect can be an ASPECT of emotional abuse, much like pretty much anything can be a part of something awful, but emotional neglect itself isn't so awful that you can compare it to a beating. If all that's coming your way is emotional neglect, it's not abuse, but your partner's probably checked out of the relationship(maybe that's their fault, maybe that's yours) or in some cases they could be neurodivergent and y'all haven't worked on how to make that work for both your needs so you feel neglected. So yeah, someone saying "emotional neglect is as bad as physical abuse" tells you a lot of bad things about them.
Like mother like daughter. They’re both despicable, and now karma is coming back to destroy them. The dad needs to divorce OP immediately. If she can help her daughter do that to her ex, then OP could do it to him too Edit: I’m just going to say this, I bet the daughter is the OP’s Golden Child. She’s actually having a hard time picking her daughter or everyone else in her family? Shows her priorities
On god, like cheating is never condonable and neither is filing false DV claims. And he didn't seem remotely interested in "punishing her" with his defamation lawsuit. He basically just asked her to cover his lost wages due to the reputational dmg of her fake claims. If he was being vindictive he would have asked for much more thank 50k. Taking at face value that he was truly an uncaring, distant, vindictive, and manipulative person (because the mom stated it like an outright fact she'd physically seen play out the first time she describes it) I did understand her concerns with a husband that isn't interested or engaged as a parent fighting for custody in the divorce to get back at her. Obv if you are putting the children first you don't want them raised by someone that's only doing it to spite you. But before she even hears the recordings of her daughter gloating about taking him down she starts to admit to herself that it is bullshit and the husband is not actually like that. Despite the fact that she opens the post with her using it as an excuse for filing the claim and saying it can be just as bad as physical abuse. She says she wants to believe her but part of her knows it isn't true. Then it becomes painfully obv the dad isn't an uncaring neglectful parent as the kids clearly miss him. And by the time the case is heard she straight up thinks the kids are better off with him which was like the entire reason they filed false DV claims to avoid that outcome.
I could just imagine how embarrassed OP’s husband felt every time OP defended there daughter’s bad behavior with the teachers and playground fights, I assume he knew that he was dragged as a bad parent by the teachers and other parents as well behind his back. OP’s husband should have divorced OP the moment he found out at about the false police report to make sure OP really learns it. Proud of the daughter’s ex-husband for taking her to the cleaners with the lawsuit
Ugh. This op is pathetic. Listening to op go on and on about "her baby. She's my baby. I need to help my baby" THAT was so cringe. Op is a massive enabler and a crappy mother. Notice how op didn't really change her stance until her daughter's actions affected her personally. It's infuriating knowing there are parents out there that think just like op. "I'm gonna tell the truth". As if anyone would believe op. I wouldn't believe anything op said in court. Not after op spent her whole daughter's life covering for her.
The son having a bad relationship with her before this began makes it clear he was the unfavorite in that household, which is a shame, but at least he was able to get away from his shit mother.
“Emotional neglect is just as bad as physical abuse” This is why I’m immediately suspicious whenever women claim to have been in an “abusive relationship”
Well it's not right to make false reports about use to anyone like the ops daughter Emotional neglect is abusive. Whether it is adult to child, or adult to adult But going through emotional neglect or abuse is no reason to cheat no reason to remain in that situation you should be looking to leave
I worked in family courts for years This happens ALL THE TIME. Also the daughter in this case wasn't being ignored. She was getting back to crap she was putting into the rel. She doesn't meet his needs in any way shape or form so he wasn't meeting. Stop spinning this as women are victims because they're not happy in their relationship. If women if you don't put something into the relationship if you don't show affection if you don't meet his needs and you make everything about you, which is what a lot of women do Then you aren't going to get anything back that you want.
Well said. Plus, OP and her daughter will be bowing to Queen Karma, when her grandchildren not only end up hating them, but also, go complete NO CONTACT with them, and disappear, at 16 or 18.⚠️
"I don't condone cheating but..." Slippery slope. When she cheats on the next one, OP can kick herself and wonder where she went wrong as a parent. I really hope this is fake.
"Emotional NEGLECT is just as bad as PHYSICAL ABUSE"?!?! WTF?!?! I mean, emotional ABUSE can be seen as just as/almost as bad as physical abuse. But emotional NEGLECT?!?! If this story is true, then this woman has FAILED as a parent!
what I'm hearing is "mom, I cheated but it's not really my fault since my husband is somewhat distant from me so lie to the police and label him as abusive so I won't lose everything when he divorces my cheating ass". the minute she mentioned lying about DV is the minute you tell her no and you won't allow her to ruin a man's life
OP needs to learn the difference between supporting and enabling. She spends the whole post pretending like she's helping her daughter by lying about DV. Hope her husband's divorces her as well. Also pretty sure this story is fake but it's entertaining at least.
Im baffled as to why ops husband even wants to be with scvm like the op who is willing to take a mans freedom by lying....he has his karma to get kn short order
@nehpets216 I'll counter that with the simple fact you never gamble with more than you can afford to lose. If she'll commit a felony to end their daughter's marriage, what, exactly, is assuring him that she won't do it to their marriage, too?
If the mother taught her daughter not to lie, cheat, consequences, and responsibility for her actions, the mother would not be lying, cheating, & worrying about the consequences of HER actions.
How much you want to bet the reasons her son was distance from because her daughter was the golden child and she been neglected her son for his entire life.
She was emotionally neglectful of her son = ab**ive mom we all know the daughter's always been the golden child,that's MOST LIKELY why the son's gone LC or NC.
She keeps saying "shes my baby" clearly shes never taught her daughter that actions have consequences and that instead of doing the right thing she will do whatever she can to help her daughter avoid punishment. It's absolutely vile.
lol what does she mean? Lying manipulative wh0re got her just desserts. Sounds like a happy ending to me. What’s wild is that she gets no legal repercussions. Oh he might have gotten up to 10 years if comviceted . Her? A fine.
Being a parent means more than care, it's the self-respecting parent with principles that gives out tough love. OP is ruining her daughter, teaching her that it's okay to do wrong things. How could OP say no? Easy.. "NO"
Wait, I think I've heard this before. But it was from the father's perspective, and he had been lied to about the domestiv violence and physically assaulted John.
Yeah. Dad beat the son in law to a bloody rag and then discovered shortly afterward that his precious baby girl was a lying sack of 💩. That was so cringy.
Exactly we know most of these stories are fake but as long as the story is entertaining. Kinda reminds me of k pop mini drama fake af but still fun to watch.
I have no problem believing this story is true or at the very least has happen to someone before. The mother full supports the daughter even calling her husband emotionless except in the first update the post said that she was told the husband was unemotional by the daughter. This is so common it's actual scary.
Ahhh, The Silver Bullet defense for the divorce. Bearing False Witness is illegal, immoral, and reprehensible. I hope John walks away from the marriage with everything and sues the MIL.
The OP is a terrible person. Emotional neglect is serious, but equating it to physical abuse is either ignorant or a blatant attempt to dodge accountability. No matter the justification, cheating is cheating. If someone feels so suffocated by 'emotional neglect,' the right thing to do is file for divorce not wh*re around or act like a victim while betraying their partner. There’s no excuse for that kind of behavior. And the one supporting all this especially is a mother is a worse of a human being than the cheater itself. If the daughter betrayed her partner and children at the same time, OP technically did the same . OPs husband should have dumped her a** too, if she is willing to file a false DV against her son in law, what makes OPs husband think she won't do the same to him when she sees a slight change that would benifit her. Women like these are the ones who makes people hard to believe those people who are genuine victims. of DV or SA.
I think you should get the maximum sentence for the crime you tried to frame someone else for. It’s the only way to discourage people from doing this kinda thing in my eyes
The golden child/scapegoat dynamic is damaging for the golden child as well. Since the parent(s) are always covering for them and cleaning up their messes, consequences aren't real to them. They know about consequences, but haven't experienced enough of them to have proper fear and respect for them. Think of it like a video game. If a character gets hurt or loses badly in a video game, you can just start the game over. All damage is gone and you can try again. That's why people will take crazy risks in a video game they'd never try in real life. If a person is constantly shielded from negative effects of their actions, it's much the same. They haven't learned viable risk/reward assessment. They don't learn frustration tolerance. Basically they're missing normal coping skills that allow us to function in society.
When it comes to parents like this, all I think of is the petshop of horrors chapter with the rabbits, where the final reveal is that the reason the couple's daughter is dead is because she was a hardcore drug user and while in the hospital she begged her mom for more drugs. The mother's response was, "How could not give them to her was begged so badly."
I have a daughter, i love her with every beat of my heart. She is my sun. But i will never lie for her. Stop making excuses, if she was unhappy she should have divorced him, not bedhop. You know what your daughter is lol and no, we dont support our children wgen they are in the wrong. I hope she loses everything, and i hope you go to jail.
Wow. Look how she starts off saying daughters husband is a good provider n giving a comfortable life then goes on 2 saying he's robotic, not emotionally invested etc 2 justify her bs ideology in assisting her making fake DV about him. Mother is a 304 enabler n if the father watching that go on n sat by, she prolly did him dirty during their marriage. She even said the same bout the husband so she would/would've cheated on him 4 the same reasons. Ijs.
I feel bad for the husband, the fact that when people do get amused by their significant other is very hard for them to come forward, and to be believed, in the fact that this woman, even though he’s emotionally strained from her, she thought that there was the right idea and what kind of parent are you to allow your child to let someone sit in jail for something that they did not commit
Opie knew exactly what her daughter was doing she knew her daughter was lying about the abuse situation she knew her daughter was doing questionable stuff because you was hiding half of the stuff that she was doing. And she said herself that that was her baby so of course she knew that her daughter was doing questionable stuff this lady is full of bulshit.
DISGUSTING LADY! Ruin someone's life over a lie. Plus are we supposed to just believe that he is "emotionally abusive" it could all be BS especially if the mom is lying about the physical stuff.
If you had a good relationship with your son inlaw and he was a great husband and father i think she made a big dumb ouchy . She should have knocked some sense into her daughter's hesd and get on civil terms with her ex-husband and then op should have takked to son inlaw and asked to make an agreement with the kids. Like idk maybe put the kids first? Like ask both of them to put everything theyve been through snd going through aside for the kids and do fifty fifty . Always meet in the middle and always think of their best interest. Bet that would have worked alot better
Husband should have left. That could easily be him defending himself in the future. She only changed her tune when it looked like she was getting in trouble for it
The messed up thing is if the husband hadn't suspected this and set up recordings the system is 100% willing to trow a man in prison over false allegations with zero investigation because a woman said so. There needs to be severe consequences for false abuse allegations. In this case there was no punishment to her from the legal system outside him filing defamation. Police who ignore obvious signs things are false also need repercussions for not investigating properly. Police can still come to a guilty conclusion with well fake evidence and thats expected, but in this case we heard no checking her bruises to him or if he had any injuries from beating the shit out of her, nothing, zero investigation.
She acts like she's scared of her daughter if she keeps enabling her she's going to be sharing a prison cell with her daughter like god dang, let that girl grow up and step back she's going to lose everything trying protect her useless daughter smh
What worse is real DV victims being treated as low class and harder to get their justice while innocent men get put in prison with fabricated evidence.
Malicious intent is not an element to prove defamation unless the plaintiff is famous. So whether OP’s daughter had malicious intent or not is irrelevant. Her daughter should only have supervised visitation, if any. She’s trying her best at parental alienation. Luckily, her kids are not stupid.
Notice how mommy dearest didn’t withdraw her unconditional support of her daughter’s horrible behavior until it caused problems for HER.
Women have 0 empathy for men, even their sons.
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That's how it ALWAYS IS TERRIBLE BEHAVIOR IS NOT A problem until it affects ME
only thing that surprised me was that she actually withdrew her support.
@@alexhulea2735She should have never supported her evil daughter.
“I don’t condone cheating”
*proceeds to condone cheating by committing an actual crime*
not only condoning it, but PROTECTING it
@@m00n3njoyer Not to mention, JUSTIFYING it.
Daughter cheated.
Wants to lie in court.
Mom says great idea.
Mom see emotional damage this does on the children.
Mom loses contact with her own son and almost her own marriage.
Lost almost everything, not a great plan
Well said. Plus, my heart hurts for OP's grandkids, when they hit their teens, they'll disappear on/cut off contact with her and their mother, and couch-surf with fake friends (the wrong types of friends), next, at 18, the granddaughter will find solace with/marry a boy who's a cheating narcissist, become homeless with a baby on the way, then, flee to another state, and stay temporarily with roommates, until after she gives birth, find a cheaper apartment, work two jobs to provide for her one-parent household, and rely on neighbors as her support system, because she won't have her dad John, or other relatives in her new state to come to her aid; the only family the granddaughter and her baby will have is each other. At 16, the grandson will gravitate toward a girlfriend who lives with her mother and stepfather, only to end up getting her pregnant, and disowned by her stepfamily, move with his girlfriend to another state to stay with her bio-father and stepmother, get his GED certificate, at 17, and marry his girlfriend, on his 18th birthday.⚠️
@@brokengiblet7271I agree with you💯%.
There needs to be more harsh penalties for those who make false accusations of SA or DV.
How rich are these people where 50,000 dollars isn't enough to ruin someone.
First female I saw in the comments attacking the mom and daughter actions
So far I only been reading females defending their actions
@@Ando1428It's not enough. They should be serving time.
The thing is, it can affect many real victims too and even discourage them from reporting cases.
@@a_randomuser4 You double posted. But yes although that’s a possibility, there needs to be specific safeguards in place to prevent the law from being too vague/corruptible (true of any law).
Mother " I was a good mother to my daughter"
Son " You were a sh*t mother"
I'd be interested to hear his take on this situation. Also, what was the final straw for him to finally go LC with the OP? It obviously has to do with his sister but what were the specifics? I'm sure his story could fill an entire video itself.
@kaijumage5379 I have heard two storys that had done this
What is OP talking about? We did get a happy ending!
In her mind it's Not happy because doing the right thing created a rift between her and her golden child daughter
I agree, karma was owed and karma was paid. The mother was protecting her "precious little girl" so much that she turned into a monster. Op created an entitled monster.
I don't think it was a happy ending. The OP deserved way worse for all of her horrible behavior and terrible choices. The fact that she finally admitted the truth (probably mostly because perjury would get her thrown in jail and because her husband would have left her) doesn't make up for everything she did up to that point. And I think the husband is stupid to stay with someone who so willingly accepted criminal and immoral behavior just to make a spoiled brat happy
I don't have to hear the rest of the story, to know that there is a space in hell waiting for both OP and her precious daughter.
It could be fake, but considering there are people just like those 2 in the world...
I've always taken possible fake stories as "with almost 8 billion people alive, it's possible some form of this story happened somewhere"
Tho filing fake DV report are "common" enough that this situation is possible enough
could be fake but you know how some women are.
I'm having some trouble placing them, though... I'm not sure what Ring they'd be damned to.🤔
There are plenty. My ex wife is one. It took 5 years and almost killed me to exonerated myself and get my sons back in my life.
My little witch of step daughter and her mom tried this stunt against my husband. Thank the heavens her own mom (step daughter's Gran) stood up and gave the courts a soulful lashing about her conniving daughter's evilness (😂). The judge even looked ashamed. She even brought Jesus and Mother Mary into it.
Sometimes being a good parent isn't about catering to your child but standing up to them.
Also my step son voiced how he overhead his mom and sis plotting against my husband multiple times.
OP blames everyone but herself and takes no accountability
Hallmark of all narcissists and abusers.
Like mother like daughter
Where do you think her daughter got it?
That’s women for ya
They are diabolical. They deserve every consequence. The reason the daughter is willing to cheat and ruin her own life is cause mommy always comes to save the day.
Exactly.
For someone who's against cheating she seems to defend it like hell. Oh wow, this is good ragebait.
There are people like OP so it's not ragebait.
@@gamingwityaboicolby1217 Have you just discovered these stories today? Learn to differentiate between fake and real stories like these and stop believing everything on the internet.
Gotta love Mommy’s denial:
“I used to cover for her all the time whenever she got into trouble or lied to get her way.”
“This woman who gets into trouble and lies to get her way is NOT THE DAUGHTER I RAISED!!!”
Baby, yes TF it is!!!
im not convinced John is actually "cold" or "not interested" in being a father. I feel like this is a lie by the mother just so she doesnt get blasted further.
Or a lie from the daughter to self justify being a cheating slut that the mother was all too willing to believe because she thinks her daughter can do no wrong.
Yeah she's capping hard. She's just saying that because he's not actively taking the role of mothering the kids so he can have all of the responsibilities while she has none. This is a perfect example of a woman wanting all the authority and no responsibilities while simultaneously making the man responsible for everything and taking away his authority.
No 4 year old cries as he goes to bed because dad isn't around if dad just sleeps there, goes to work, and doesn't do anything to raise his kids. Clearly he's more involved than she claimed.
I agree. Or it's just what her daughter told her and she believed it.
'I lied to get my daughters husband arrested.' 'Emotional neglect is just as bad as physical abuse'. This tells you all you need to know about these two women. Ridiculous and disgusting behavior.
Emotional abuse is abuse, and it can be as bad as physical abuse. I’ve been in many discussions of victims of abuse where those who suffered exclusively non-physical abuse often wish their abuser would have abused them physically, because physical abuse leaves evidence that helps them be believed, whereas people are often reluctant to believe people who have only suffered non-physical forms of abuse because the evidence of it is harder to understand.
That said, the first sentence does tell you everything you need to know about both of these women.
@@ATTACKofthe6STRINGS No one mentioned emotional abuse. The video said emotional neglect. Just because someone thinks their partner is neglecting them, doesn't mean it's abuse.
In this story it sounds like the wife cried neglect to give her an excuse to cheat then tried to get the guy arrested for DV so she couldn't be blamed for the divorce and fallout of her own actions. If anyone was abusive in that relationship I'd say it's her. The fact the OP - her mother - helped her get the husband arrested on false charges tells me exactly how she was raised as well.
@@ATTACKofthe6STRINGS emotional neglect and emotional abuse are FAR from the same thing. Case in point, you yourself say people are reluctant to believe emotional abuse, however if a woman tells anyone that her boyfriend, husband, etc is "So cold and distant, I feel neglected," people are gonna believe that easily. Neglect can be an ASPECT of emotional abuse, much like pretty much anything can be a part of something awful, but emotional neglect itself isn't so awful that you can compare it to a beating. If all that's coming your way is emotional neglect, it's not abuse, but your partner's probably checked out of the relationship(maybe that's their fault, maybe that's yours) or in some cases they could be neurodivergent and y'all haven't worked on how to make that work for both your needs so you feel neglected. So yeah, someone saying "emotional neglect is as bad as physical abuse" tells you a lot of bad things about them.
@@ATTACKofthe6STRINGScheating is abuse
@@ATTACKofthe6STRINGS, what happened here isn’t emotional abuse, it’s barley emotional neglect.
Notice that the daughter said her husband had the "cold, calculated" personality to do something horrible, but then goes and does something horrible?
Your very first mistake is thinking your daughter is the victim in all of this!!!
Like mother like daughter. They’re both despicable, and now karma is coming back to destroy them. The dad needs to divorce OP immediately. If she can help her daughter do that to her ex, then OP could do it to him too
Edit: I’m just going to say this, I bet the daughter is the OP’s Golden Child. She’s actually having a hard time picking her daughter or everyone else in her family? Shows her priorities
OP knew it was a lie from the start. Then thinks she can rewrite history and play victim. So freakin annoying.
On god, like cheating is never condonable and neither is filing false DV claims. And he didn't seem remotely interested in "punishing her" with his defamation lawsuit. He basically just asked her to cover his lost wages due to the reputational dmg of her fake claims. If he was being vindictive he would have asked for much more thank 50k.
Taking at face value that he was truly an uncaring, distant, vindictive, and manipulative person (because the mom stated it like an outright fact she'd physically seen play out the first time she describes it) I did understand her concerns with a husband that isn't interested or engaged as a parent fighting for custody in the divorce to get back at her. Obv if you are putting the children first you don't want them raised by someone that's only doing it to spite you.
But before she even hears the recordings of her daughter gloating about taking him down she starts to admit to herself that it is bullshit and the husband is not actually like that. Despite the fact that she opens the post with her using it as an excuse for filing the claim and saying it can be just as bad as physical abuse. She says she wants to believe her but part of her knows it isn't true. Then it becomes painfully obv the dad isn't an uncaring neglectful parent as the kids clearly miss him. And by the time the case is heard she straight up thinks the kids are better off with him which was like the entire reason they filed false DV claims to avoid that outcome.
I'll have to live with the guilt. Imagine saying that straight faced as though it is a fair price to pay for lying and ruining someone's life.
I could just imagine how embarrassed OP’s husband felt every time OP defended there daughter’s bad behavior with the teachers and playground fights, I assume he knew that he was dragged as a bad parent by the teachers and other parents as well behind his back.
OP’s husband should have divorced OP the moment he found out at about the false police report to make sure OP really learns it. Proud of the daughter’s ex-husband for taking her to the cleaners with the lawsuit
asks for help filing a false police report, still cant believe her baby would ever lie
Ugh. This op is pathetic. Listening to op go on and on about "her baby. She's my baby. I need to help my baby" THAT was so cringe. Op is a massive enabler and a crappy mother. Notice how op didn't really change her stance until her daughter's actions affected her personally. It's infuriating knowing there are parents out there that think just like op. "I'm gonna tell the truth". As if anyone would believe op. I wouldn't believe anything op said in court. Not after op spent her whole daughter's life covering for her.
The mom needs to remember that she is not a baby but a grown a$$ woman
The son having a bad relationship with her before this began makes it clear he was the unfavorite in that household, which is a shame, but at least he was able to get away from his shit mother.
Failure of a woman for condoning cheating and falsely accusing someone else
They're the same in general
“Emotional neglect is just as bad as physical abuse”
This is why I’m immediately suspicious whenever women claim to have been in an “abusive relationship”
Well it's not right to make false reports about use to anyone like the ops daughter
Emotional neglect is abusive.
Whether it is adult to child, or adult to adult
But going through emotional neglect or abuse is no reason to cheat no reason to remain in that situation you should be looking to leave
Emotional neglect is a bunch of nothing. He could've told her no and it's neglect lmao.
Not letting your wife cheat is emotional neglect lmao
It's so vague that anything negative can count as emotional neglect.
@@tartlynerdyExactly, it’s BS just like “Mental Load”
I worked in family courts for years
This happens ALL THE TIME.
Also the daughter in this case wasn't being ignored. She was getting back to crap she was putting into the rel. She doesn't meet his needs in any way shape or form so he wasn't meeting.
Stop spinning this as women are victims because they're not happy in their relationship. If women if you don't put something into the relationship if you don't show affection if you don't meet his needs and you make everything about you, which is what a lot of women do
Then you aren't going to get anything back that you want.
It's like the other story where the dad assaulted his daughter ex just because she falsely accused him of abusing her
I saw that one. I'm disappointed the SIL didn't press charges on the OP in that story.
Both mom and daughter should be in prison.
Well said. Plus, OP and her daughter will be bowing to Queen Karma, when her grandchildren not only end up hating them, but also, go complete NO CONTACT with them, and disappear, at 16 or 18.⚠️
They can serve their time in a men's prison.
"I don't condone cheating but..."
Slippery slope. When she cheats on the next one, OP can kick herself and wonder where she went wrong as a parent. I really hope this is fake.
Unfortunately, there are women like OP and her daughter out here in reality. This sadly might not be fake
"Emotional NEGLECT is just as bad as PHYSICAL ABUSE"?!?! WTF?!?! I mean, emotional ABUSE can be seen as just as/almost as bad as physical abuse. But emotional NEGLECT?!?! If this story is true, then this woman has FAILED as a parent!
What she mean it isn't a happy ending sounds like it was too me
what I'm hearing is "mom, I cheated but it's not really my fault since my husband is somewhat distant from me so lie to the police and label him as abusive so I won't lose everything when he divorces my cheating ass". the minute she mentioned lying about DV is the minute you tell her no and you won't allow her to ruin a man's life
OP needs to learn the difference between supporting and enabling. She spends the whole post pretending like she's helping her daughter by lying about DV. Hope her husband's divorces her as well.
Also pretty sure this story is fake but it's entertaining at least.
Im baffled as to why ops husband even wants to be with scvm like the op who is willing to take a mans freedom by lying....he has his karma to get kn short order
Sunk Cost fallacy, they've been together for decades and he's already done so much... It's easy to slip into that type of thinking.
@nehpets216 I'll counter that with the simple fact you never gamble with more than you can afford to lose. If she'll commit a felony to end their daughter's marriage, what, exactly, is assuring him that she won't do it to their marriage, too?
@@nehpets216not even just the time but the fact they have kids...
When you have a spoiled child that can do no wrong in her eyes.
This is why you dont cheat even if you are a victim.
And understanding doesnt equal justification.
If the mother taught her daughter not to lie, cheat, consequences, and responsibility for her actions, the mother would not be lying, cheating, & worrying about the consequences of HER actions.
How much you want to bet the reasons her son was distance from because her daughter was the golden child and she been neglected her son for his entire life.
She was emotionally neglectful of her son = ab**ive mom
we all know the daughter's always been the golden child,that's MOST LIKELY why the son's gone LC or NC.
Being cold and unaffectionate is NOT abuse. Calling everything abuse is degrading actual abuse victims
She keeps saying "shes my baby" clearly shes never taught her daughter that actions have consequences and that instead of doing the right thing she will do whatever she can to help her daughter avoid punishment. It's absolutely vile.
All that did was turn her daughter into a monster.
What is this old cow going on about? There absolutely was a happy ending; justice.
lol what does she mean? Lying manipulative wh0re got her just desserts. Sounds like a happy ending to me.
What’s wild is that she gets no legal repercussions.
Oh he might have gotten up to 10 years if comviceted . Her? A fine.
"I didn't lie"
Ah yes but you also didn't tell the truth despite knowing it when someone else lied, that's almost if not just as bad
Being a parent means more than care, it's the self-respecting parent with principles that gives out tough love. OP is ruining her daughter, teaching her that it's okay to do wrong things. How could OP say no? Easy.. "NO"
Mom being a problem makes it unsurprising that the daughter became one as well
And this is justice, 50k, no jail for her lies, she got 50/50, so marriage and justice for man in divorcees.
Wait, I think I've heard this before. But it was from the father's perspective, and he had been lied to about the domestiv violence and physically assaulted John.
Yeah. Dad beat the son in law to a bloody rag and then discovered shortly afterward that his precious baby girl was a lying sack of 💩. That was so cringy.
Is that the one where he broke into the house/apt with a baseball bat and beat the son in law?
That’s a separate one, since the father in this is pretty removed from the situation.
Honestly I couldn't care less if the story is made up, they're entertaining as hell
Exactly we know most of these stories are fake but as long as the story is entertaining. Kinda reminds me of k pop mini drama fake af but still fun to watch.
Same
Exactly!
Hopefully OP’s redemption is sincere and actually sticks.
I have no problem believing this story is true or at the very least has happen to someone before. The mother full supports the daughter even calling her husband emotionless except in the first update the post said that she was told the husband was unemotional by the daughter. This is so common it's actual scary.
If the guy is that cold, why did she marry him ???
She is in "Panic mode" about money and custody? Do not cheat!
Ahhh, The Silver Bullet defense for the divorce. Bearing False Witness is illegal, immoral, and reprehensible. I hope John walks away from the marriage with everything and sues the MIL.
Unhappy in the marriage but instead of getting out decided to cheat & help destroy AP's family as well. Lied to the Police
Mom probably cheated too at some point
"I don't condone cheating but..." I totally will in 5, 4, 3, 2...
What proof of the so called emotional abuse is there ? Just her daughters word I guess
The OP is a terrible person. Emotional neglect is serious, but equating it to physical abuse is either ignorant or a blatant attempt to dodge accountability. No matter the justification, cheating is cheating. If someone feels so suffocated by 'emotional neglect,' the right thing to do is file for divorce not wh*re around or act like a victim while betraying their partner. There’s no excuse for that kind of behavior. And the one supporting all this especially is a mother is a worse of a human being than the cheater itself. If the daughter betrayed her partner and children at the same time, OP technically did the same .
OPs husband should have dumped her a** too, if she is willing to file a false DV against her son in law, what makes OPs husband think she won't do the same to him when she sees a slight change that would benifit her. Women like these are the ones who makes people hard to believe those people who are genuine victims. of DV or SA.
I think it had a happy ending, except both you and your offspring should have gotten jail time.
OPs daughter married him. You can't tell me he just became like this overnight. 🤨
I think you should get the maximum sentence for the crime you tried to frame someone else for. It’s the only way to discourage people from doing this kinda thing in my eyes
"I don't condone cheating, but" then condones cheating
The golden child/scapegoat dynamic is damaging for the golden child as well. Since the parent(s) are always covering for them and cleaning up their messes, consequences aren't real to them. They know about consequences, but haven't experienced enough of them to have proper fear and respect for them. Think of it like a video game. If a character gets hurt or loses badly in a video game, you can just start the game over. All damage is gone and you can try again. That's why people will take crazy risks in a video game they'd never try in real life. If a person is constantly shielded from negative effects of their actions, it's much the same. They haven't learned viable risk/reward assessment. They don't learn frustration tolerance. Basically they're missing normal coping skills that allow us to function in society.
“Emotional neglect is just as bad as physical abuse” 😳 That woman’s logic is dangerous for men
The mothers husband needs to gtfo FAST. If shes willing to do this for her daughter hed better believe she'd do it to him as well.
I wonder if he is the father of the kids
The story might be fake but many women do this.
When it comes to parents like this, all I think of is the petshop of horrors chapter with the rabbits, where the final reveal is that the reason the couple's daughter is dead is because she was a hardcore drug user and while in the hospital she begged her mom for more drugs. The mother's response was, "How could not give them to her was begged so badly."
The ship has already sailed on OP being a good mother
“it’s all because of this mess” no it’s all because of your child. let’s be clear.
I have a daughter, i love her with every beat of my heart. She is my sun. But i will never lie for her. Stop making excuses, if she was unhappy she should have divorced him, not bedhop. You know what your daughter is lol and no, we dont support our children wgen they are in the wrong. I hope she loses everything, and i hope you go to jail.
Wow. Look how she starts off saying daughters husband is a good provider n giving a comfortable life then goes on 2 saying he's robotic, not emotionally invested etc 2 justify her bs ideology in assisting her making fake DV about him.
Mother is a 304 enabler n if the father watching that go on n sat by, she prolly did him dirty during their marriage. She even said the same bout the husband so she would/would've cheated on him 4 the same reasons. Ijs.
I feel bad for the husband, the fact that when people do get amused by their significant other is very hard for them to come forward, and to be believed, in the fact that this woman, even though he’s emotionally strained from her, she thought that there was the right idea and what kind of parent are you to allow your child to let someone sit in jail for something that they did not commit
The more time passes, the more I see why women didn’t have much right.
Its so refreshing to have to channel state wether it believes the story is true or not
And people can understand when people haven’t always “believed women”
Opie knew exactly what her daughter was doing she knew her daughter was lying about the abuse situation she knew her daughter was doing questionable stuff because you was hiding half of the stuff that she was doing. And she said herself that that was her baby so of course she knew that her daughter was doing questionable stuff this lady is full of bulshit.
So instead of do the right thing and just divorcing him and then starting and relationship. She did this instead gotcha.
50k and partial custody is absolute Pennies for what that man was put thru
DISGUSTING LADY! Ruin someone's life over a lie. Plus are we supposed to just believe that he is "emotionally abusive" it could all be BS especially if the mom is lying about the physical stuff.
We know who the golden child is.
If you had a good relationship with your son inlaw and he was a great husband and father i think she made a big dumb ouchy . She should have knocked some sense into her daughter's hesd and get on civil terms with her ex-husband and then op should have takked to son inlaw and asked to make an agreement with the kids. Like idk maybe put the kids first? Like ask both of them to put everything theyve been through snd going through aside for the kids and do fifty fifty . Always meet in the middle and always think of their best interest. Bet that would have worked alot better
Story 1: I am glad that John and your husband are furious! I hope that John wins the defamation lawsuit! He should sue more than $50,000.00!
To make it short, OP is an enabler and is the reason why her daughter grew up as a bad person because she keeps on making excuses for her.
Husband should have left. That could easily be him defending himself in the future. She only changed her tune when it looked like she was getting in trouble for it
4:00 so not only did he get cheated on he got arrested for it, i wont say whats on my mind but my stomach is in pain
Mothers like these who in the name of being a good mother, help clean up everything their beloved princess do are ruining entire generations of women
Unconditional love doesn't mean doing whatever the other person wants. It means doing what's right especially for their sake even if they walk away.
The messed up thing is if the husband hadn't suspected this and set up recordings the system is 100% willing to trow a man in prison over false allegations with zero investigation because a woman said so. There needs to be severe consequences for false abuse allegations. In this case there was no punishment to her from the legal system outside him filing defamation.
Police who ignore obvious signs things are false also need repercussions for not investigating properly. Police can still come to a guilty conclusion with well fake evidence and thats expected, but in this case we heard no checking her bruises to him or if he had any injuries from beating the shit out of her, nothing, zero investigation.
The criminal apple doesn't fall far from the criminal tree.
Story 3:
Mom: “Bending the rules”
ChatGPT: “I’m sorry I cannot help you break the law”
She acts like she's scared of her daughter if she keeps enabling her she's going to be sharing a prison cell with her daughter like god dang, let that girl grow up and step back she's going to lose everything trying protect her useless daughter smh
My ex-husband's mother was like this with him and his sister. Wonder why they're both still single.😅
You tell them not to lie about something so severe
Story 1: You deserve the karma that you are getting for filing a false report against John!
Both the FIL & SIL need to get their children paternity tested.
What worse is real DV victims being treated as low class and harder to get their justice while innocent men get put in prison with fabricated evidence.
Malicious intent is not an element to prove defamation unless the plaintiff is famous. So whether OP’s daughter had malicious intent or not is irrelevant.
Her daughter should only have supervised visitation, if any. She’s trying her best at parental alienation. Luckily, her kids are not stupid.
You are incorrect that's literally what defamation means
So the recording were playing in court, bit Op hasnt heard them yet? 😅 they would play them in their entirety if it was played in court...
Women do this then be like "Believe women" lmao. I know this is fake but things like this happen routinely IRL.
Wtf , she actually agreed to do it , why not let her daughter face the consequences of her actions. Op you definitely f**ked up big time.
easy to see where the daughter learned everything from.
Pure evil.