I just bought a bass boat z18 a week ago.. never been on a boat,driven a boat, used a trolling motor, never seated shotgun,ect. Only boat I've been on was a ferry.. TH-cam has helped me tons.. I did not know there was an engine break in procedure until I bought the boat.. did a lot of research and I'm 2hour in the break in the last 2 I'm going to do when the wind calms down as to I'm new on unloading and loading the boat.. but I did well I think. I have common sense head on right and a fast learner..
I've seen so many people not properly break in there outboard. It runs fine the first season. Sounds fine the 2nd season but usually drops 5 mph or so.
Can all this be done in the same day or is it better to do a couple of hours 1 day, then give it a rest. Then a few days later work the rest of the hours out?
+Mr Cut Lawn Care How many BRP products have you owned? Why don't you give us some specifics? I've had two etecs and about to buy my 3rd. Both have been flawless. I don't understand why some people get so offended when someone says good things about etec. Why?
THERE'S A SHOP THAT'S 15 MlNUTES FROM MY HOUSE. THEY WORK ON ALL OUTBOARDS, BUT THEY SELL, SERVlCE, REPAlR & SPEClALlZE lN JOHNSON/EVlNRUDE. l USED TO OWN A COUPLE DlFFERENT EVlNRUDES.......SO l WAS lN & OUT OF THAT SHOP FAlRLY OFTEN. HANDS DOWN.......l SAW MORE ETEC & FlCHT MOTORS THAT WERE NEW OR NEAR-NEW......SlTTlNG lN THAT SHOP......BROKE DOWN, THAN ALL THE OTHER BRANDS COMBlNED. l'M SURE MANY OF THEM WERE RELlABLE.......BUT lN MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERlENCE.......THEY ARE JUST TOO MUCH OF "A CRAPSHOOT". l WOULD OFTEN ASK ONE OF THE MECHANlCS "WHAT'S WRONG WlTH THAT ONE? lT LOOKS BRAND NEW?"........AND ALL TOO OFTEN l WOULD BE TOLD: "WE HAVEN'T FOUND WHAT'S CAUSlNG THE PROBLEM YET".........AND THAT WAS COMlNG FROM CERTlFlED & TRAlNED TECHNlClANS SPEClALlZlNG lN EVlNRUDES. l'VE OWNED SEVERAL BRANDS FROM 40hp TO 150hp........AND l WON'T OWN ANYTHlNG BUT A YAMAHA TODAY. AS FAR AS THE NEWER SMALL 4-STROKE OUTBOARDS OF 25hp DOWN TO 2.5hp......l WON'T BUY ANYTHlNG BUT TOHATSU. THE TlNY TOHATSU'S ARE DESlGNED SO WELL......MERCURY & A FEW OTHER COMPANlES CONTRACT THElR TlNY OUTBOARDS TO TOHATSU.......THEN SlMPLY PUT THElR OWN BRAND NAME ON THE COWL COVER. NOTHlNG NEW THERE. LOOK lT UP.
Howabouthetruth dang lol rant much. But good call on the capitalization it catch my attention and made me listen like I was getting yelled at by the president.
I was only able to get into the stage at 1.45 hours at 3K R/PM and had to pack up for the day. Can I finish my last stage of 4K R/PM in the morning like I had planned? Also for the most part I stayed at 3K for 1.45 hrs with maybe 10-15 minutes of reduced idle all together in that whole time, is this also ok? Thanks! Mine is a 2021 Suzuki 70 outboard.
While yes Evenruide has no break in period, they cost several thousands more in my area. Suzuki has the best price i have found for a 200hp motor. The break-in must be done in order for the warranty to be valid. I will take a 4 stroke anyday, and as far as weight goes it seems all the engines weigh pretty close to the same these days. The lightest was a Mercury, by about 15 lbs. Etec is in the middle of the pack on weight, plus etecs are a 6 cycl vs the 4 strokes being a 4 cycl. $15,500 for a Suzuki 200hp, vs $21+ for a 200 ETEC.
Dealer should go over that! That means for a Suzuki, maybe others except Evinrude, you have to spend at least two days just breaking the thing in?! I'm for Evinrude. Not just for no break in, but for cleaner running than a 4 stroke, no 5-6 quarts of oil, filter, valves, cams, rods, etc. The future is in 2 stroke outboards. I know, I know, all the hype from about 5-15 years ago was about nothing but 4 strokes from then on, but that is old news! Old. Future is with 2 stroke engine design for outboards. And Evinrude, a North American company (!) leads.
a tad of ams oil in the fuel mix? (I realize its a 4 stroke) a good quality synthetic oil mixed in the fuel will help those piston rings slowly seat rather than raw gas. I always used a generous splash of ams oil (in my Mod VP 270...2 stroke) Fouled plugs? Cheaper to repair than scortched rings. If you can get it, aviation fuel twice a season? why not; "Factory Break ins"? just sayin"
............. more problems with engines that are "babied" ; Ride it like a rental! ;-) , also make sure you are not running synthetic in the first break in cycle as it hinders proper seating.
Vivian Vazquez ,said it as good as it can get,run it like you rented it. 4 strokes need to be broken in hard,the rings are hard and you get one chance to do it. Just vary the rpm's like you would naturally. Absolutely don't baby it out of the box,worst thing you can do. The manufacturer wants you to baby it because if there was a catastrophic failure at lower rpm's they may be able to repair it,unlike if it's going wot the damage would be unfixable. Remember, read the manual carefully, it says they suggest you break it in they way they want,it never says you have to. They want you to baby it for liability issues only. I have verified this with many merc people. Also think for a second,how can a 2 stroke and 4 stroke have the exact same break in ,there 2 totally different machines but the manuals say do it the same,nonsense.
This is true. I broke in my skidoo renegade 900 ace with mineral oil and rode it hard. Let go of the throttle without slowly decelerating. Then ran full synthetic. It's running amazing
with the new etec's u don't have to break it in i would just stick with the etec instead of a 4 stroke cause every time theres a major problem with a 4 stroke and they fix it u have to break it in
robbynelson3 lol some people need to get educated on how a motor works and how every thing has to get seated before they come on here and act like they know something. Lol
If you don't follow the break in procedures to a tee and then have an issue the manufacturer will know as soon as they tap into the OBD port. They can see every second of run time during break in and afterwards. Then your new shiney expensive outboard repairs will be on you.
it s easy to see four strokes are much more durable for any type of commercial or heavy use . they simply last longer and run many more hours then the light built two cycle engines. if that wasn't the case we would have two stroke cars . lawn mowers generator s ect.
+Catfish Edge you might want to do your research. Evinrudes are 2 strokes not 4 strokes there's a big difference in so many way between 2 and 4 stroke that's one.
Tyler York I am aware that the Evinrude motors are 2 stroke motors. I've seen statements that they can be run wide open with no break in. I've also spoken with numerous people who've said there is still a break in suggested and they'd never skip the break in. .
Tyler York still ether way there is a brake in procedure so the ring can get seated. You (the customer) probably don’t have to do any break because evinrude does it at the factory, probably.
8 to 10,000 hours? My old 25 hp 4 stroke required way more work and maintaince than my 25 etec has and i only put 200 hours on my 4 joke before i sold it. My 25 etec and 200 etec have around 400 hours on them now and only service it's ever needed is the lower gear unit oil changed. 4's need camshafts, valves checked oil changes, ect. Dont get me wrong 4 stroke engines are great in certain applications like the auto industry but when it comes to outboards, dirtbikes and sleds I don't see the advantages. 2's are lighter, faster, more torque and overall less money to own and operate.
+Stephen Salter 400 hours is a Month of use commercially that's nothing . I have had two honda s and a Suzuki that have ran over town thousand hours without even a valve adjustment. etec will simply not stand up to that type of use . still waiting to see one with ten thousand hours. used etec s 3/4 years old are everywhere
Brandon Murphy i live in in Canada where the adverage boater is lucky to put a 100 hours a year on their motors so for me to hit 6000+ hours would take 30+ years of use. But I've read on plenty of boating forms from etec owners that have had 4000+ hours of trouble free boating on their etecs. I think your mistaking the early years of the etecs 2005-2007 which had some issues due to the new technology at the time but they have long since then worked out any flaws.
@Stephen, exactly! It's like trying to talk to an old tile man about epoxy grout; they about break down and cry if you mention using epoxy grout! Stuck in the past like many 4 stroke boys. Evinrude has indeed worked out those early problems, especially that FICHT (or some such) mess they had. I was just at a Mercury/Yamaha dealer, and the old boy is stuck thinking the future is 4 stroke! He doesn't realize that Evinrude even passes California emissions standards, the cleanest burning outboards made. Simple, durable design. I don't even own one, but I do my research.
Done my break in today to a suzuki 90df just as per manual 4 hours none stop realy smooth
Awesome! They're great motors!
I just bought a bass boat z18 a week ago.. never been on a boat,driven a boat, used a trolling motor, never seated shotgun,ect. Only boat I've been on was a ferry.. TH-cam has helped me tons.. I did not know there was an engine break in procedure until I bought the boat.. did a lot of research and I'm 2hour in the break in the last 2 I'm going to do when the wind calms down as to I'm new on unloading and loading the boat.. but I did well I think. I have common sense head on right and a fast learner..
LOL, good luck!
My understanding of the purpose of break in was to slowly bring up to temperature and slowy bring it back down ober and over
I've seen so many people not properly break in there outboard. It runs fine the first season. Sounds fine the 2nd season but usually drops 5 mph or so.
Truth
@@danielsim281 No reason not to do it if the manufacturer suggested. Always the gear heads that think they know better.
Thats a sweet boat man, cant wait to see what you do with it!
Thanks. trying to get it done!
Nice! Happy you finally got that new boat. Looks too pretty to fish out of, lol.
Can all this be done in the same day or is it better to do a couple of hours 1 day, then give it a rest. Then a few days later work the rest of the hours out?
+khoroshsabzi Can all be done at the same time
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Absolutely NOT. Needs cool down between running. Do NOT do this in one day.
I like my merc 150 my next motor will be a suzuki next tho 150
Just buy an ETEC and skip the break in! The part of the break in that hurts is when you take it back to the dealer for the 20 hour service.
+David Cooper Only problem with that is it's a Evinrude :)
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+Mr Cut Lawn Care How many BRP products have you owned? Why don't you give us some specifics?
I've had two etecs and about to buy my 3rd. Both have been flawless. I don't understand why some people get so offended when someone says good things about etec. Why?
THERE'S A SHOP THAT'S 15 MlNUTES FROM MY HOUSE. THEY WORK ON ALL OUTBOARDS, BUT THEY SELL, SERVlCE, REPAlR & SPEClALlZE lN JOHNSON/EVlNRUDE. l USED TO OWN A COUPLE DlFFERENT EVlNRUDES.......SO l WAS lN & OUT OF THAT SHOP FAlRLY OFTEN. HANDS DOWN.......l SAW MORE ETEC & FlCHT MOTORS THAT WERE NEW OR NEAR-NEW......SlTTlNG lN THAT SHOP......BROKE DOWN, THAN ALL THE OTHER BRANDS COMBlNED. l'M SURE MANY OF THEM WERE RELlABLE.......BUT lN MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERlENCE.......THEY ARE JUST TOO MUCH OF "A CRAPSHOOT". l WOULD OFTEN ASK ONE OF THE MECHANlCS "WHAT'S WRONG WlTH THAT ONE? lT LOOKS BRAND NEW?"........AND ALL TOO OFTEN l WOULD BE TOLD: "WE HAVEN'T FOUND WHAT'S CAUSlNG THE PROBLEM YET".........AND THAT WAS COMlNG FROM CERTlFlED & TRAlNED TECHNlClANS SPEClALlZlNG lN EVlNRUDES. l'VE OWNED SEVERAL BRANDS FROM 40hp TO 150hp........AND l WON'T OWN ANYTHlNG BUT A YAMAHA TODAY. AS FAR AS THE NEWER SMALL 4-STROKE OUTBOARDS OF 25hp DOWN TO 2.5hp......l WON'T BUY ANYTHlNG BUT TOHATSU. THE TlNY TOHATSU'S ARE DESlGNED SO WELL......MERCURY & A FEW OTHER COMPANlES CONTRACT THElR TlNY OUTBOARDS TO TOHATSU.......THEN SlMPLY PUT THElR OWN BRAND NAME ON THE COWL COVER. NOTHlNG NEW THERE. LOOK lT UP.
Howabouthetruth dang lol rant much. But good call on the capitalization it catch my attention and made me listen like I was getting yelled at by the president.
Can the first 15min idle be done in neutral or does it have to be done in gear and can this break in 10 hrs be done in 2 hr sessions?
Not sure idle, yes it can be broken up
Does the first 10 hours have to be done all in one day or can you do 5 hours one day and 5 the next?
Doesn’t matter
I was only able to get into the stage at 1.45 hours at 3K R/PM and had to pack up for the day. Can I finish my last stage of 4K R/PM in the morning like I had planned?
Also for the most part I stayed at 3K for 1.45 hrs with maybe 10-15 minutes of reduced idle all together in that whole time, is this also ok? Thanks! Mine is a 2021 Suzuki 70 outboard.
Yes
While yes Evenruide has no break in period, they cost several thousands more in my area. Suzuki has the best price i have found for a 200hp motor. The break-in must be done in order for the warranty to be valid. I will take a 4 stroke anyday, and as far as weight goes it seems all the engines weigh pretty close to the same these days. The lightest was a Mercury, by about 15 lbs. Etec is in the middle of the pack on weight, plus etecs are a 6 cycl vs the 4 strokes being a 4 cycl. $15,500 for a Suzuki 200hp, vs $21+ for a 200 ETEC.
Good points!
Dealer should go over that! That means for a Suzuki, maybe others except Evinrude, you have to spend at least two days just breaking the thing in?! I'm for Evinrude. Not just for no break in, but for cleaner running than a 4 stroke, no 5-6 quarts of oil, filter, valves, cams, rods, etc. The future is in 2 stroke outboards. I know, I know, all the hype from about 5-15 years ago was about nothing but 4 strokes from then on, but that is old news! Old. Future is with 2 stroke engine design for outboards. And Evinrude, a North American company (!) leads.
I had an Evinrude 150HO but what a noice! I switch again to a Suzuki fourstroke 175. It is much more quiter and the tork is amaizing.
Good point!
I just got a new to me boat, but it has 19 hours on it and no info, what should I do?
Drive it like you stole it!
Run it like you stole it....... you're good to go.
a tad of ams oil in the fuel mix? (I realize its a 4 stroke)
a good quality synthetic oil mixed in the fuel will help those piston rings slowly seat rather than raw gas.
I always used a generous splash of ams oil (in my Mod VP 270...2 stroke)
Fouled plugs?
Cheaper to repair than scortched rings.
If you can get it, aviation fuel twice a season?
why not; "Factory Break ins"? just sayin"
Thanks
I thought it said “how to break a outboard motor”
LOL, I'm an expert in that :)
After it reaches operating temperature it doesn't make a difference . When hits temp the metal doesn't make a difference
BS
nice vid Chad.
ThunderCatfishing Thanks
***** Do you change oil and oil filter after 10 hours?
Yes
+Catfish Edge hello i just bought my first mercury 60 ct bigfoot. what do u think. just asking.
Larry Castillo I haven't run Mercury in a very long time so don't know much about them.
............. more problems with engines that are "babied" ; Ride it like a rental! ;-) , also make sure you are not running synthetic in the first break in cycle as it hinders proper seating.
Vivian Vazquez ,said it as good as it can get,run it like you rented it. 4 strokes need to be broken in hard,the rings are hard and you get one chance to do it. Just vary the rpm's like you would naturally. Absolutely don't baby it out of the box,worst thing you can do. The manufacturer wants you to baby it because if there was a catastrophic failure at lower rpm's they may be able to repair it,unlike if it's going wot the damage would be unfixable. Remember, read the manual carefully, it says they suggest you break it in they way they want,it never says you have to. They want you to baby it for liability issues only. I have verified this with many merc people. Also think for a second,how can a 2 stroke and 4 stroke have the exact same break in ,there 2 totally different machines but the manuals say do it the same,nonsense.
Im glad i hammer my 8hp yammie almost always
This is true. I broke in my skidoo renegade 900 ace with mineral oil and rode it hard. Let go of the throttle without slowly decelerating. Then ran full synthetic. It's running amazing
Or use an E-tec and not worry about it.
But then the problem is you own an Evinrude. :)
Amen Robert.
Evinrude is NOT the problem. It's 4 Stroke Outboard Owners that think they know it all.
Whatever happened to doing the initial "break-in" according to what the manufacturer's manual recommends?
That's what this was.
with the new etec's u don't have to break it in i would just stick with the etec instead of a 4 stroke cause every time theres a major problem with a 4 stroke and they fix it u have to break it in
LOL, still not sold.
Or you could just have a evinrude that completely bombs all together :)
They're a passionate bunch aren't they?
2 strokes do require a break in. You don't just run the piss out of it from start to finish lol.
robbynelson3 lol some people need to get educated on how a motor works and how every thing has to get seated before they come on here and act like they know something. Lol
If you don't follow the break in procedures to a tee and then have an issue the manufacturer will know as soon as they tap into the OBD port. They can see every second of run time during break in and afterwards. Then your new shiney expensive outboard repairs will be on you.
no kill cord!
+vikingsmb it's not a bass boat!
Wish he said, "Well Golllleee."
Well Gollllleee
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Tell me it's not true.
it s easy to see four strokes are much more durable for any type of commercial or heavy use . they simply last longer and run many more hours then the light built two cycle engines. if that wasn't the case we would have two stroke cars . lawn mowers generator s ect.
True!
thats why buy evinrude because no break in
+Tyler York Evinrude requires a break in just like all other outboard motors.
Any combustion engine requires a break in procedure.
+Catfish Edge you might want to do your research. Evinrudes are 2 strokes not 4 strokes there's a big difference in so many way between 2 and 4 stroke that's one.
Tyler York I am aware that the Evinrude motors are 2 stroke motors. I've seen statements that they can be run wide open with no break in. I've also spoken with numerous people who've said there is still a break in suggested and they'd never skip the break in.
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Tyler York still ether way there is a brake in procedure so the ring can get seated. You (the customer) probably don’t have to do any break because evinrude does it at the factory, probably.
Lol
that Suzuki will run 8000 to 10000 hours easy . show me an etec with hours like that . they don't exist
LOL.. the have a rabid fan base
8 to 10,000 hours? My old 25 hp 4 stroke required way more work and maintaince than my 25 etec has and i only put 200 hours on my 4 joke before i sold it. My 25 etec and 200 etec have around 400 hours on them now and only service it's ever needed is the lower gear unit oil changed. 4's need camshafts, valves checked oil changes, ect. Dont get me wrong 4 stroke engines are great in certain applications like the auto industry but when it comes to outboards, dirtbikes and sleds I don't see the advantages. 2's are lighter, faster, more torque and overall less money to own and operate.
+Stephen Salter 400 hours is a Month of use commercially that's nothing . I have had two honda s and a Suzuki that have ran over town thousand hours without even a valve adjustment. etec will simply not stand up to that type of use . still waiting to see one with ten thousand hours. used etec s 3/4 years old are everywhere
Brandon Murphy i live in in Canada where the adverage boater is lucky to put a 100 hours a year on their motors so for me to hit 6000+ hours would take 30+ years of use. But I've read on plenty of boating forms from etec owners that have had 4000+ hours of trouble free boating on their etecs. I think your mistaking the early years of the etecs 2005-2007 which had some issues due to the new technology at the time but they have long since then worked out any flaws.
@Stephen, exactly! It's like trying to talk to an old tile man about epoxy grout; they about break down and cry if you mention using epoxy grout! Stuck in the past like many 4 stroke boys. Evinrude has indeed worked out those early problems, especially that FICHT (or some such) mess they had. I was just at a Mercury/Yamaha dealer, and the old boy is stuck thinking the future is 4 stroke! He doesn't realize that Evinrude even passes California emissions standards, the cleanest burning outboards made. Simple, durable design. I don't even own one, but I do my research.