FAB Facts: Was Thunderbirds Hinted at in a Stingray Comic Strip?
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- The AP Films TV21 comic was no stranger to crossing over between shows and stories, and one such example occurred when two Thunderbirds guest vehicles showed up in a Stingray story...
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In my own personal head-canon, World Space Patrol, WASP, International Rescue & Spectrum all exist in the same universe.
Both Lt Green and Capt. Grey did tours with the WASP. In fact, Grey was the first commander of the then-experimental submarine, which later became known as Stingray.
@@marcusdirk It's been a VERY long time since I read the Dalek stories in TV21, but I don't recall there ever being a timeline mentioned.
@@StavrosIII Fair call, I have to say I never really considered there to be a connection. When you're 10, the fact that the Daleks were on the BBC and Gerry Anderson's shows were on ITV was enough to keep them separate. A crossover story could have been amazing but the copyright legislation would have been beyond labyrinthian.
My personal head-canon is based on the puppet styles (Fireball/Stingray/Thunderbirds in one universe with Scarlet and Joe 90 in a second universe)
@@abrindley123 That sounds like your divide is on the evolution of the marionettes since Scarlet and Joe 90's characters had a more realistic head/body proportionality. By back story lore Scarlet would take place within the timeline of the earlier shows. Joe 90 is harder to pin down since so much of the settings look relatively contemporary.
Great FAB Fact, also, did you know that the DT19 Aircraft from Captain Scarlet's "Winged Assassin" appeared in a THUNDERBIRDS comic strip story later on?!
Was that their way of introducing Captain Scarlet before it aired on television?
Yes, that was in the Thunderbirds comic strip called "Tracy Island Exposed", but the DT 19 aircraft was renamed 'Goliath'.
@@RailRocketRickyThats a interesting way to introduce a new show without saying it. I wonder if anyone knew what was happening or did it came as a surprise later on?
There was Supercar before, but the best was Fireball XL5 with Steve Zodiac
Paradoxically, the good things in life are also the bad things...
It is good that I am old enough to have watched Dr Who, Fireball XL5, Stingray, Captain Scarlet, and Thunderbirds when first released on our old Bell black and white TV, and to have loved Marina.
But it is also a bad thing that I am old enough to have watched Dr Who, Fireball XL5, Stingray, Captain Scarlet, and Thunderbirds when first released on our old Bell black and white TV, and to have loved Marina.
(Sigh)
To bad that there wasn’t a proper crossover in the tv series.
It was said that Gordon Tracy idolized Troy Tempest as his hero, and why he chose to become the pilot of Thunderbird 4.
Wasn't Gordon Tracy a member of W.A.S.P before International came to be?
@@TheSgtFrank He was with WASP prior and if I recall, Lieutenant Green was at Marineville prior to Spectrum's formation.
I don't remember.
Google didn't have any information about it..
@@nickhill8612 watch the video on how international rescue came to be
@@TheSgtFrank Gordon was the Aquanaut who piloted Stingray BEFORE Tempest.
I was an avid collector of TV21 from its first issue, and vividly remember the 'countdown' on the covers to Thunderbirds' appearance in the comic. I'm pretty sure I remember noticing this when re-reading the comics after Thunderbirds hit our screens.
So, Anything Can Happen In The Next, TV Series
So it's official they are set in the same universe......noice
All of andersons shows are set in the same universe, joe 90/fireball xl5/space 1999 its all there. Its so damn cool!
My place of work overlooks railway retracts and because of the snow they were unloading some sort of snow blower from a flatbed wagon. All I could hear was the Thunderbirds theme. Looked like the mole and fireflash’s little brother. I did look round for a big green pod. Yknow just in case.
TV21 comic did have stories that ran several of the shows into a coherent universe - Fireball XL5, Stingray, and Thunderbirds, later adding Zero-X and Captain Scarlet. The Lady Penelope stories preceeded the Thunderbirds strip, and, indeed, were used to introduce the idea of Thunderbirds before it aired. Supercar, and Joe 90 were not part of this shared universe, as it's intimated that they both took part at an earlier time period, possibly the 1990's. A great example of a TV21 (and that's what we kids all called it at the time) crossover, was the 2065, sorry, 1965 Fireball XL5 story, 'The Astran Assassination', which features Fireball XL5, of course, but also Stingray and Lady Penelope and Parker, attempting to stop an intergalactic war. It's brilliant, and all the bits lock together perfectly. If it were done today, people would be going nuts over it.
The problem with Fireball XL5 and Lady Penelope appearing together is that the technology of the World Space Patrol, with ships routinely flying to other planets, was far more advanced than that of Penelope's era, with Zero-X making the first manned flight to Mars. Of course when you're seven years old, as I was when TV21 was coming out, you don't notice that sort of thing!
@@Bravie2001 There's ways around that. Maybe Mysteron energies destroyed probes and satellites heading to Mars, so the Fireball ships were sent to places that wouldn't immediately kill the astronauts.
Or you could just nudge them up the timeline a bit...
The Hood was in a Stingray strip.
It was also said that Brains was responsible for the design of Stingray.
No wavy sound graph at the bottom of the video. Much easier to watch the slide show and read the text. Good job.
Agreed
What a great little gem of a story - THANKS!!!
Great blog and a tribute to the fantastic work by the Century 21 team. Looking back, TV21 and all the linked marketing work was cutting edge and growing up in a world of black & white television, the comic and its summer specials, annuals, cards, records, etc were the only way to find out what the shows looked like in colour! 🚀😎
It's no secret that in Gerry Anderson's imagination, the worlds of Thunderbirds, Stingray and possibly also Fireball XL5 were the same world, either at the same time or at least having knowledge of each other, possibly as past events in the case of XL5.
I can remember that there was a TV-21 story which featured a crossover between Fireball XL5 and Dr Who, with Steve Zodiac having to go up against the Daleks. Anderson didn't worry over-much about how these worlds intersected. What mattered more to him was telling a good story which captured the imagination of the reader.
Well Gordon Tracy was a member of W.A.S.P before joining International Rescue according to his bio.
I've always thought that Fireflash wouldn't work in the real world with the engines right up at the top of the tail and the cockpit in there too. It would be a proper tail sitter of an aircraft because the amount of weight needed would make it too heavy on the nose
That's probably true about Fireflash. It is said that the Concorde designers & engineers, during their tea breaks, worked out how Thunderbird 2 could have actually flown in the real word. I bet if they'd put their minds to it they could've done the same with Fireflash!
@@fredbloggs8072 I want to see that version of Thunderbird 2 now :P
Unstable fly-by-wire systems are the answer. This is how aircraft such as the Typhoon are so agile, deliberately made unstable with the computers keeping the aircraft in hand.
3:27, if you look carefully you can see (go up from the number 3 on stingray fin) the cliff house from which TB 2 comes out ! wow.
Fun Fact: In the backstory’s of all the Tracy brothers it was revealed that Gordon served in the WASP’s before joining International rescue.
So one could argue that Thunderbirds, Stingray and Captain Scarlet all exist in the same universe.
I have seen the comic strip in an story collection book, but never knew it was printed before Thunderbirds even aired.
Weren’t both series set in 2068?
Countdown was also produced from 1969 I have from #8 to 55 they too had mainly Gerry Anderson stories of firebird xl5, stingrays, Thunderbirds, captain scarlet and my favourite UFO. They had rights to many of stories and made up some of their others. The mag changed to TV action from 59 and finished at #132 here they added persquaders and dr who. I was told years ago that I have one of the few almost complete collections left! And in New Zealand one of the few to get it on sub
And here’s me for years thinking Thunderbirds came first. Not realising Stingray predates it by a year.
Likewise, during the 90s BBC Two revival, I thought that Thunderbirds came before Stingray, not the other way round. Especially as some of Barry Gray's music in Stingray would be reused in Thunderbirds.
Have a look, closely, at that Stingray and Tracy Island photo. Unless my eyes deceive me, The Cliffhouse and road/runway for Thunderbird 2 are visible. Interesting to know how much preparation on Thunderbirds was done in the time of Stingray.
XD OMG THAT IS SO AMAZING!
I saw it first time around.
TV21 - my comic of choice back in the '60s. Just loved it. 6d every Wednesday! Happy memories...
id love to see Stingray brought back
Only if they use the original music. And don't redesign Stingray herself.
Why isn't the Anderson verse a big cinematic thing? Seriously every dumb potential franchise ever has been strip mined and this total gem has been ignored.. I've said this before but in the Avengers movie when the helicarrier was in trouble the 1st thing I thought of was Thubderbirds rescuing cloudbase.
Were the Crustaveans half crab - half bird? Underwater flying crabs sound particularly nasty.
Which came first...Thunderbirds or The FAB 4?
GO YOU 'R's!!!
I don't think Fireball XL5 could be set in the same universe as Captain Scarlet or Thunderbirds. Mars was unexplored until the Zero X, when the World Space Patrol went all over the galaxy. Of course, the Zero X appeared in the first Captain Scarlet episode as well
I had TV21s from no. 2 to 72 with all the extra editions.
I sold them all a few years ago for nearly £1000.
An airliner shot down by a foreign power. GA has the skill of looking into the future. (Think about it).
I have this comic
Has about 3 stories in it and I think this is the second story
_"...crusty people..."_
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More things to look for, on reviewing the series.
Blimey..... TV21 ! And 7d was a lot of money for a comic back then.
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TV21 was made of a strange paper with a really strange smell
Fantastic 😍💋 💝💖♥️❤️