Which way do pistons fly out at 10000 revs?
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When the Russians start backing off to "safe distances" you best start running.
When Russians backing off I think "that must be interested" :D
If russians don't back off, run anyway :)
Seriously hahaha
When they start backing off, it's too late to run, so you might as well grab your favorite drink, put on some good music and enjoy the show.
When the engine block starts speaking in Finnish
Insane to see the pistons basically 'stop' when the RPMs match the frames.
Yea at points it almost looked fake because it was moving so dang fast.
This phenomenon is called the shutter effect, the speed of the pistons reached the same frequency as the speed of the displays frequency of operation
@@Wheatley_Darwin ah gotcha its always cool when helicopters look like the blades aren't moving
No, at 8:53 the axle sheered off as explained later. So in the second run, it really barely did move. On the first run you had the effect you described.
@@DrHouse-zs9eb indeed, I was aware of the sheared axle weld
8:55 funky how speed of the pistons match the framerate of the camera and make it look like it's in slow-motion
The motor lasted with that amount of rpm because it didnt have any detonation or compression. As always, another great video!
You are correct engine failure usually happens because of piston failure not the rods but it always looks like the rods because after the pistons break they beat the hell out of everything in there way
Yeah no valve float.
no its becase its a TOYOTA ENGINE
3:50 touching a piston while moving, I felt like he was touching a heart while beating.
That's a fast ass heart beat lol
@@UndrRatedEnt he meant metaphorically. It is the center of the thing(car) and human and basically u can't touch it, especially while running
@@gameonyolo1 Never thought of it that way, it makes sense
@@UndrRatedEnt Well, the engine is the "heart" of a car :P
Mayber the gas pump wich pumps blood (gas) to the engine pump and the car engine run
*thermometer invented in 1612
*people in 1611 : *touch the engine block "it feels like 55 degree celcius"
lol
please name one engine block that existed in 1611...
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@@tom4208 that's the joke Tom
dont think it was @@aceytoja
How about testing the rpm limits of various engine driven accessories, like alternator, power steering pump, and air conditioning compressor? Doing it with them attached to their respective systems and fully functioning would be even more interesting.
It doesn’t matter what happens in the war between 2 countries. Keep this man safe and alive!
Build a performance Lada engine that can do those type of revs on its own.
the challenge isnt getting high rpms, its making peak power at said high rpms...
My lada engine does only 7k, but it has around 160hp lol. The engine itself is capable even more with turbo
So basically Lada with stock block and built head is unstoppable tofu machine.
@@bakedandsteaked pretty good description XD
@@attilahavasi6987 how many litres is the lada engine? 7k is quite high depending on litre of the engine
"LOOK! Up in the air! It's a bird. It's a plane. It's our pistons!
Good work!!!!!!!!!!
A Larda piston!!
@@noman7508 Was about to comment this lol.
Put that one on the list of "things you (might) get to say once in your life".
"OUR pistons"
I like watching this as it helps to understand what happens when things fail or are pushed to do things they are not intended.
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Customer: I want a properly run in engine after piston replacement.
Garage 54: No problem Sir, we have a machine for that...
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These Russians are mad....
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Russian built too !!
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You couldn't kill a bottom end of a Lada at 10000rpm, without tampering. Goes to show how robust these old Lada engines are even with the centrifugal forces of 10000rpm. Marvelous old engines!
It's not centrifugal forces, its reciprocating mass mostly.
I've been in a repair shop with my 17 year old Daewoo Matiz for a muffler change and they had 3 modern Land Rovers in a row all with the engines disassembled to bits. I've done anything you can imagine to that Daewoo, from rolling over to money shifts, driving 50 KM/h on a forest road with boulders bending my oil pan (it's regular steel, it doesn't break, it bends), ran without oil until the engine stopped.
It can still be daily driven.
because the first thing that gets killed is always the valves!
yes, iron blocks are very tough
It's because they had no idea of the forces it would have to withstand so they just overbuilt it like crazy
Watching this is such a good way to waste time. Thank you, you are very fun to watch!
I appreciate all the hard work you guys do.
Absolutely love Garage54! They’re like Mythbusters, Jackass, and The Old Top Gear/ The Grand Tour all wrapped in one!!!!!
You know it’s serious when a RUSSIAN says “I think it’s time for us to move away”
Only if they're already drunk.
They run with a bottle, you better grow legs too
@@MadScientist267 why is that so funny. Lol
As a Russian. The translator is extremely off on saying what he actually says. He didn’t even say that😂🥸
@@maxboya so instead of correcting the translator, you correct him but dont actually correct him by not telling is what hr actually said.
This is a good demonstration of how a lot of the heat produced by an engine is from its own friction
Yeah lada engines usually run 10k rpm such a good demonstration, it also definitely got up to the temps you see on an exhaust system for sure. Real true.
Using the tree canopy as a blast shield ... I mean, Jeff of Taofledermaus does call wood logs "Russian ballistic gel" 😀
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RIP for taofledermaus channel partner 😔.
This is actually incredibly informative. It's hidden behind a bunch of entertainment, but showing that an improperly tightened cylinder is more dangerous than a severely weakened one is quite the lesson.
But, the “severely weakened” one ejected the piston first. I would say the lesson was exactly the opposite from what you stated.
Absolutely correct
@@savage6394 both cylinders 1 and 4 were cut. Severally weakened blew first. Loose cap blew before the other cut rod.
The second stage of that test would have had little to no oil pressure once the first cap failed. The loose cap then had no hydraulic cushion to dampen its collisions with the crank and it quickly beat itself to death.
Hahaha, the title alone got me into this one! You guys never cease to deliver.
What I love is the guy who narrates this sounds like he doesn’t even like cars. But he takes the time out of his days to do these videos
Next experiment: force as much air/nitrous into an engine until failure from too much power made
That would be an awesome episode!
@@Mach5Johnny seeing as almost all Lada engines have 90% cast iron/steel parts, I wouldn't doubt it holds up
How much boost/bar can a Lada engine take is what I want to see
Hit that Lada engine with a modest 350hp shot . Also with the cyl head installed
I always wanted to try 50/50 nitromethane and gasoline mix with nitrous oxide for good measure, from what I understand N.M. and gasoline are very "touchy" when mixed.
That was so cool the way the frame rate matched the motor when it was maxed out and made it look like it was turning in very slow motion for a minute I actually thought the coupler had let go and it really was turning in slow Mo until they slowed the motor down and then it started moving like hell again
NICE job! Enjoyed the video. I am impressed with the durability of engine after cuttting the rod.
If the bottom end can handle 10K RPM like that then it might be interesting to convert one of those engines to being a 2-cycle and see if it could run on its own decently at 10K rpm
So basically, it's an engine-powered engine?
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You guys should just try to build up a lata engine that can handle 10k rpm
hey, dont want to be a grammar nazi, but I would like to be corrected if I'm wrong, its Lada with a D. www.lada.ru/en/
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Looks like the stock one handled 10k rpm just fine
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@@milandjuric3119 Not the piston assembly is the problem usually. The valve train is what have hard time following the camshaft at that RPM.
This guy is great. You got to love the experiments and the destruction that’s always the end result. Its a plus.
I'm glad someone is answering my question I've always had with these cool experiments .
I’d love to see this setup with a complete engine! To see the valves and springs going would be interesting
yes, I agree, and with slo-MO playback.
There are vids of that, right here on YooToob. The valve train makes a cloud of oil mist. With heater oil for lubrication, it would make a nice fireball.
Yup! However, it will never hold 10.000 rpm before the valves will buckle and the camshaft is crap.
These are old Fiat engines from the 60's. The Lada was build on base of the Fiat 124. :)
That would valve float to hell xD. Would be fun
I fifht this so much!!!!!
Alternative title: How to have a 10,000rpm party with Uncle Rodney.
Yeah, he usually comes a-knockin' before pistons go flyin'.
😂😂😂😂😂
@@ArKritz84 George has entered the chat 😂
@@jasongaunt windowing LS blocks for a living must be fun. 😂
I loved how with the stroboscopic effect the look of the pistons just lolling up and down in the block even though they're pumping at nearly 10k rpm
I like this guy! 😂 Experimenting on so many stuffs!
I've been watching this channel for nearly 3 years. I have no idea how I originally got here but I sure have enjoyed the break from normal car stuff.
Same here. It's been quite a ride going from a one car garage to their current digs.
@@fryloc359 I remember the single car garage and wooden pistons or something way back. During a mid-life crisis, some men chase younger women. Vlad does silly stuff with cars. LOL!
@@scottinWV Yeah! wooden pistons, wooden brake pads, gasoline in a headlights, lots of fun stuff.
Suggestion: rear wheel steering on a lada! Like a forklift or something
As a life long gear head, tinkerer of crazy stuff, and an American, I just love these guys from Russia. Being a gear head must be a genetic flaw with guys. These guys do some crazy stuff.,....they not only think out of the box, they think out of this planet. If we could only JOIN UP TOGETHER, imagine what advances we could do. I was out fishing and ran into two Russian brothers. These two were awesome guys. I lost track of them but they were almost 60 years old, extremely polite and funny as hell. I felt more at home with them, than I ever felt with my own three brothers.
I would fish, break bread, have a beer with these two guys, anywhere, anytime. I am trying to make arrangements to go fly fishing in Russia . Besides, I want to pet Messi.
"You shouldn't cut halfway though your connecting rods, guys" would have been sage advice too. Nice work, Garage54.
As soon as I saw the title, I facepalmed and laughed out loud
why
😂😂
it's not even about whether or not they will fly.
it's *which way do they fly*
Dude same!! Lmao leave it to the Russians
@@dimitar4y ooooh ok hahah
That entire contraption is a marvelous piece of improvised engineering.
Yeah but the experiment was bogus. There is no compression, back pressure nor resistance on either side at all to make it mean much except for what speed the crank bearings can spin at.
@@stevesteve8264 Yeah it's basically like testing how fast a car can go by pushing it in neutral down a massive hill
the fact that the engine didn't seize completely after the first piston let go is amazing
pretty sure it did
@@TheBanjoShowOfficialit sized after the second piston failed, not the first
As a automotive technician, i have lot of respect for this guy. Not only did he wreck the piston, we went the extra mile to utterly destroy the entire engine block!! Ain't no fixing that shit !!!
How much power will an unregulated alternator output at 10,000 revs?
I assume around 6-8kW.
Usually they charge at 14.4V even at idle, let's assume idle is at 850 RPM and be it is a 40A rated one.
14.4*40A is 576W
Output voltage is proportional to RPM, so the power too:
10000/850*576W is 6776W.
@@moczikgabor 40amp?
A 1940 Alternator?
@@thecloneguyz I don't know the exact specs of the Lada's alternator, and didn't wanted to go into a deeper research as the unreg voltage at idle will not be in it, it is just an assumption anyway. The cars I had from the '90s had 40-60A alternators. Please remember that there were not that much electronics in the cars back then. Before the EFI era, literally the lights and the radio were the only continuous load.
I came up with these conservative values, but there is everything in my post needed to recalculate as needed.
But it seems you truly need exact values, and I assume you are not just nitpicking, then you can even measure the parts you have laying on the desk in your lab, isn't it? 😛
@@moczikgabor anything under 40 amp was considered a generator or a Dynamo
Alternators were breaking 75 amps in the 80s with air-conditioning dude
In the nineties the average was 90 amps
Now we have 24 volt batteries because 12-volt cannot handle the amperage
@@thecloneguyz we do have Mech man alternators doing 400amps and 200amps at 700rpm. We have come from a distance though
"Now we run for it!" *ambles slowly away*
Great channel, thanks for sharing! This is so cool, gearheads communicate seamlessly from one language to another and one culture to another. We can do what the politicians cannot... or will not. Thanks again, new subscriber here.
I’d love to see a running engine being spun by that contraption. I genuinely wonder what would happen, I would assume that something with variable timing would hold its own until it goes past the red line.
I loved watching the pistons at the right rpm to the shutter speed and frame rate of the camera, they looked like they were slowly turning! Another amazing video!
I love this channel, my gf asked why I was cackling like a witch in the other room.
user manual: tighten bolts in 4 stages, stage 1 5nm, stage 2...
minimum wage mechanic: yes...
These destructive tests are really interesting and informative for engineers
Score card is a 11/10, the added points because you windowed the bock.
I consider this a total success .
We need More, much much MORE of these.
Homie poked the damn piston with his finger at 500rpm. Love it.
Love the gasp at 14:36 when he figures out there's a hole in the block
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Absolutely awesome video!! Never seen anything this well recorded of ejecto pistons🤣
Amazing to me they they had to cut the connecting rods to get it to throw. Very well built engine. Impressive.
3:37 and he put his finger on it and even touch it, what a man living his life to the fullest
Wow, that piston actually did go pretty high, id say atleast 6, to maybe 10 feet high. I feel like a great long term project would be to take the stock Lada 4 cylinder engine and build it to run at 10,000rpm as healthy as possible, e.g. upgraded ecu tune, fuel delivery, cooling. Mainly just to test the raw durability of the crank shaft, pistons, cylinders and valvetrain, in a running car.
10k rpm will float valves galore.
@@ToolofSocietystiffer valve springs
@@TiagoSC There are limits.
Russia: The only country that not care about, where the oil is going hahaha
south America.. china. Africa..middle east...
@@markvietti yeah...yeah...ur right 😂😂😂
Back to the ground.
America: the only country that “cares” about where the oils going
@@peterrivney552 it comes from the ground, so it can go back in the ground 🤣
"Now we run for it!"
*slowly walks away...*
You guys do such funny stuff. Appreciate all your effort 👍
I think this is the only machine that makes these guys hide behind a tree.....
I would have left it together, minus the spark plugs, and watched what happens. no compression makes it easy to spin.
So we would see the pistins how
Yep - Valves are the problem at high RPM not the piston I think.
@@Slazlo-Brovnik yes
I understand ur point 100 percent n i dont disagree im just talking for our visual sakes lol
@@Slazlo-Brovnik Valve float to the max
This is exactly the type of thing where innovation comes from. Im not sure, what I can come up with, You can pretty much do anything. Bravo to you Sir, Bravo!
Excellent Smithers! I love seeing shit blow up! Thanks Again!
Newest addition to the Olympics, Piston Throwing.
Challenge: Build a single cylinder lawn mower engine (4 stroke) that will run and survive above 10K RPM
I'd love to see that one
You can run a 4 stroker in 2 stroke if you have forced induction (compresor, not turbo) for extra power
Something like this? th-cam.com/video/9hMnlyKZLwE/w-d-xo.html OK not quite 10K but over 10hp from a 3.5hp Briggs...
Wouldn't be easy, seeing as most single cylinder mowers use completely splash lubrication, no oil pressure, just an oil film.
@@Titan604 Not really the same thing.
I've run one at approximately 8k. Not for long. Motor was vibrating apart. Briggs and Stratton four stoke if you must know. Rated at 3hp. Lock tight might help. Scared the crap out of me.
The super slow motion optical illusion was extra satisfying.
Here is something to think about. At 10,000 RPM, assuming a piston weight of 13 oz., a stroke of 3.15" and not taking the con rod into account, there are approximately 3,600 lbs of force (almost 2 tons) upwards at TDC and downwards at BDC on the piston/rod assembly. If you take the con rod length into account, there is usually more force upwards and less force downwards due to varying rod angles during the stroke.
It is amazing the forces an engine endures throughout its daily use.
PLEASE(!!!!) try to kill a Lada engine by using a turbo and too much boost. Lets see how much power you can get out of a humble Lada.
Gap the rings first. Let's see the rods or head bolts fail. Not a failure of the ring detonating a piston.
LMAO, when that piston flew out I laughed so hard, it looked hilarious.
These are 'the important experiments', stuff we need to know.
That 3rd cylinder though... you can see how the piston came up too much and the rings got crushed on the edge of the block, nice work :-)
Watching engines get abused like that is a mechanic's favorite pastime.
Nice. Thinking you should add another rear end to multiple the gears to get higher rpm and spin some stuff even FASTER!!! What a great series this thing is turning out to be!
He already has a transmission attached. He could just make the diff gears taller and use a more powerful engine for more top speed.
@@Dubz0408 Orrrrr.... Just add another diff which will multiple the gears even more... Not completely rebuilding it...
@@mikeznel6048 Orrrrr do LESS work and swap the ring gear on the pinion which is held onto the pinion carrier by 4 capscrews. Not saying tandem axles wouldnt be cool, i just dont like the tone of your last comment.
If he reversed the diff and drove the crown gear, (from the ‘wheel’ end), he’d get maybe 4X the rpm at the pinion gear which would then be the output!
@@nickybritain4900 Thats essentially what they ended up doing
8:35 “That’s a Lada revs."
Mad scientist of the automotive world!!!
Thank you for your contributions to automotive science!
I'm always so happy when this channel shows up in my recommendations. I've subscribed for years, but for some reason I never see the videos.
Pistons flying do happen rarely, I remember a US locomotive that shot a piston and ended inside a house as if it was a mortar projectile
I don't remember that, so it can't have happened.
Next time try putting the head on with those fancy "piston return springs" in there ;-)
Stuff like this makes you wonder just what madness they're doing in Garage 55.
@11:15, I love your rod resizing technique… lmao
Would have been good to see a complete engine run that way. Radiator to cool, no valve cover and spin it like a twister.
I like how they just stand behind trees. In US they would build plexi walls, but russians are too tough for that.
Well to be fair, in the US the television shows are probably loaded to the gills with lawyers.
Most ordinary people would probably just stand behind a tree. We ain't got time for that plexiglas nonsense.
Ever been in a gunfight? lol
the plexi wall would fall over, killing everyone
I do think they were over a hill, though, so pretty safe so long as you watch for raining pistons.
I love these guys- nothing but motor mayhem!
When I was doing my apprenticeship in the sixties, I removed one head of a side valve Ford V8, and started it up. It was a bit reluctant to run with the loss of manifold vacuum, but nevertheless got going. At lower revs you could see a piston at the top, and at the bottom of each cylinder, with a blurr in between. Same with the valves. At higher revs the blurr vanished, and there was a piston both top and bottom of each cylinder. And it didn't seem possible that it would all stay together! But it probably ran up to 3,500 at the most. Now a chainsaw will do 20,000 rpm!
I would love to see a engine meltdown…full throttle until everything glows
I know you've run a washer off a lada engine, but how fast could a dryer fling the water out of clothing if it was hooked to this machine?
They would be a good engine to turbo I've never seen a block take so much torture thanks for the video and time you guys put into these movies it's a big the thumbs up from me.
I love watching your material! Sometimes you jus gotta break some stuff! :D
And the engine says “ this guy cracks me up “
That brings a whole new meaning to a throw out bearing :)
How many turbos can a Lada engine take ?
That's wild what beast of a engine,those Ladas are insane lmao ,keep it up boys, love your stuff 👍👍👍👍👍👍.from Canada
Great show, looks like a lot of fun guys, thanks for Sharing this
You need to collab with the Slo-mo guys or SmarterEveryDay, I'd love to see this in proper slow motion
You should spin up an alternator up while keeping the coil windings energized, see how many volts it'll put out at what RPM before the whole thing explodes
Ooooooo
@@kingofsludge7262 ikr
@@beardedgaming3741 it’s interesting but I still hate seeing any engine go to waste
whenever I find a lost piston in the middle of the woods, I might think this russian man must've been there doing some crazy experiment
You are a genius! I love this channel. 😊
11:14 So that is how you correct bearing clearance in Russia.
New video idea, turing a I4 into a I3.
Maybe even I2.
or turning a I4 into a v4?
@@ksawerytecza7213 would be harder
A four cylinder into a 2 cylinder engine and two cylinder air compressor.
I hate to see an engine put through this type of torture, but there's actually some pretty useful material in this video.
I swear I've learned more about engines from these guys then any other channel