Disappointing News Regarding Assassin's Creed Shadows...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- We've gotten some more news regarding Assassin's Creed Shadows. Some of it good, some of it disappointing. But what I really wanted to focus on in this video is the absence of some social stealth mechanics for Assassin's Creed Shadows and why I believe social stealth is so important to Assassin's Creed...
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FINALLY someone speak about Liberation.
Liberation is my favorite game if we speak about stealth.
You speak about the persona system, it give so much freedom, so many opportunities. It completely change the gameplay.
As the assasins, climb and kill.
As the slave, pick up a box to pass checkpoint, then pick up a broom when the guard is coming then start a slave revolt to move the guards.
As the lady, flirt with a guard to escort you around, bribe checkpoints.
And all of them have indepdenant wanted levels. This is amazing.
Liberation is the ultimate crowd blending assassins creed ever made, not a single game in the franchise have ever reached this high level of crowd blending.
I 100% liberation and it's way better than ac3 and most AC games when it comes to stealth
I wish they would have used the persona system in a mainline game.
Liberation is a hidden gem of a game.
They should of brought it back in syndicate but yes such good stealth ac could of been great but …..
I’m playing liberation right now, I’m on sequence 6 any tips?
@@KEVERIANCyour crazy bro one of my favorites when it comes to stealth is ac unity because it’s actually hard
Why do I think that some months later we're gonna have a StealthGamerBR video titled: 'Stealth as Yasuke'
I doubt stealth even play this crap...
He even skipped Origins & Odyssey, such a trash game...
@@rbkgaming2581 He played Valhalla and Mirage, and Valhalla has objectively worse stealth systems then Origins or Odyssey. He'll likely play this.
@@UndeadCheetah Yeah, I'm sure he'll do wonder with Naoe's arsenal.
Just stand in a shadow and you’ll never see him 😂
@@rbkgaming2581Because stealth AC like is impossible in those games. And even if you did it would be boring.
Now look at what he did in AC Mirage, that looked like art.
I hope the writing is atleast decent, idk what the hell happened to Ubisoft writing
Corporate greed
They have introduced ghostwriter AI, which means they are going to use low-quality non-human writer to produce a large volume of poor-quality dialogue for mass production. Even the most advanced AIs today have toddler-like writing skills. What can we expect?
Greed and delusional higher ups that literally knows nothing about their own audience
they don’t hire the best people for the job anymore. They have to meet an arbitrary diversity quota.
It's Ubisoft Quebec... They aren't know for good writing, quite the opposite actually.
“IT IS LITERALLY ONE OF THE TENANTS OF THE CREED” say it again for the people in the back!
I like the idea of assinating my foes by challenge them in combat gigachad playstyle
Doesn't necessarily mean you have to follow that Tenant to the teeth and word-for-word when you don't even have to. Different setting, culture, outfit, etc... give more ways than one interpretation to do "hide in plain sight". Naoe is basically invisible as she is among her people, she doesn't need to hide at all. Because she IS already hide in in plain sight.
@@thangngudxop Yeah good point, I bet when Naoe is eavesdropping she'll just stand there mouth gaping and drool dripping down her face and her target won't notice her at all since she is constantly hiding in plain sight. Sorry for the lame joke but your logic is kinda stupid when considering everything that social stealth is, blissful ignorance I'd call it.
@@gojea8200Just calling it for what it is. "Hide in plain sight" don't always have to involve doing what the series "always" do as "social stealth" and that's not one way to look at it either.
@@gojea8200Also, that's probably the most brilliant lame joke I've seen. Could find a way to work that into the game actually. You, as a player, can act as a beggar, or someone who's crazy, mad, drunk, or a retard whose mouth's drooling with blood or taking a piss right in front of your target face and they'd not even notice they're being eavesdrop/track. If only they did that kind of disguises for Naoe or a separate story related char who turn out to be a secret ally, and make that a twist too.
Im quite worried about the writing. The entirety of the writing in the demo is so cringey and in your face, like they're speaking directly towards the audience and saying what they hope we want to hear. hopefully its not like that in the full game.
yeah
It sounds like an AI wrote some of the dialogue
And we know Ubisoft is working on that stuff so I wouldn't put it past them to be that lazy
It’s definitely going to be like that. It’s Ubisoft. The best we can hope for are good graphics and at least decent gameplay
Keep your expectations low.
You don’t want to have yet another disappointment in the series.
Don’t expect much and it will probably be an ok game in terms of story and writing.
@@salmannader1762 idk I thought part of Oddessy were well written. Other parts not so much. But nothing this bad.
"We hide in the shadows" says a 6'9 black man in the middle of feudal japan
You weren't there. Might be accurate. 😏
@@kingbrutusxxvi yeah you think so?
Stop crying 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@KliFF1738 did Ubisoft pay you to say that?🧐
@@KliFF1738 When a read this i see a big baby comments in the adults conversarion 🤫😅
I'm glad I'm not the only one who appreciates liberation's persona system. It just feels like something that's essential to the hiding in plain sight tenent and I don't understand why it's not implemented more.
No interest in playing as Yasuke. The bruiser/brawler archetype seems crowbarred into AC. And afaik this is the first time they actually have a real historical figure as a protagonist. I think that's a terrible decision. So far in the franchise we always encountered and interacted with historical figures which made for a fun, historical fiction kind of dynamic. But I really do not like the idea of actually playing as those historical figures. Also weird that out of all of Japan's history of historical figures the one they choose to change their entire historical fiction dynamic for in the AC game finally set in Japan... isn't even Japanese. Which seems pretty disrespectful to Japan.
Social stealth isn't even only a main trait for the assassins, it was one of the biggest traits of shinobi too, they were experts in avoidance, non-detection and misdirection, espionage, assassination, information gathering, disguise, concealment, and escape
I think Yasuke really will be for those who like the Valhalla/Orgins/Odyssey fans that choose to play them as an RPG more than an AC game. I have a friend who loves the RPG AC cuz the RPG and combat stuff. He doesn’t really care about assasins or the “lore” and gameplay of an assasins. IMO he will be the type to love Yasuke
Lets be real black samurai who is like atleast head height taller than anyone else is kinda hard to use social stealth and blend in... same goes with hooded female that carrys arsenal of weapons 🤷
still wont beat ghost of tsushima
I don’t think that’s the point
Oh you will see,
This game is gonna be hot garbage.
I still dont care if theres a black samurai because hes a historical figure named Yasuke a samurai retainer I dont care about how bad/good the storyline is or the combat Its still a good game for players (some) Hate it Or Love it its still a AC Game set in Japan titled AC Shadows some players still need this game to release like me if u hate it then dont play it if u love it then play it. Its that easy
Of course not, AC shadows is an attempt clone of Ghost of Tsushima
It won’t even beat rise of the ronin
In AC Shadows Naoe would make better use of stealth as a Oiran/Courtesan. In terms of why Yasuke can't use social stealth because he probably doesn't know how and needs to grow into it. It would be cool if Yasuke could use ship combat that would be something that makes him unique from Naoe as people love black flag and this will work for Yasuke. Also battlefield quests like Odyssey with armies would be amazing for Yasuke as Naoe could never take part in such open combat of armies.
It makes sense why he can't use social stealth... It doesn't make sense why he doesn't have fleshed out stealth as a whole.
@@65firered it does, he hasn't learnt it... Yasuke basically became an Assassin in the middle or so of the game. It never made sense why Edward was able to use stealth to the level of Connor who trained for years. Yasuke learnt to be a Samurai and has to build on that so he can be an Assassin even then in AC there are Assassins who were brute class like Bartholomeo in AC Brotherhood and his sword Bianca. It's not a requirement as long as you don't comprise the Creed you don't have to have stealth. It is hypocritical though for us as AC fans to say hidden in plane sight when games after AC1 have character with the Creed logo on their clothes, same with Templars that have logo on the clothing it's stupid. I would believe Yasuke OR Naoe weren't Assassins more so than Ezio who is so flamboyantly dressed he looks like a peacock but I shrug it off as rule of cool so it doesn't matter... Social stealth in Liberation/Unity (Clothing change) was the best not crowd blending unless you are dressed like a monk or priest like figure in a religious are like AC1 or look like an average civilian.
The persona system of Liberation would have been perfect for this game. Imagine Naoe infiltrating imperial palace disguised as a servant or a geisha.
Great video, they completely misunderstood or intentionally move away from what makes Assassin's Creed authentic
I think the thing that is gonna get people the play Yasuke is the day night cycle. Devs said that missions can be tackled at any time of the day so going during the day probably makes stealth harder but at night stealth would be the easier approach since you have more tools.
Play Ghost of Tsushima instead of this
trash this game disgracing Yasuke himself
日本人からの意見です
Yasuke yelling real loud behind someone’s back to only knock them out immediately seems hilarious.
Hopefully the game is fun. That’s the most I can ask for after Valhalla lol. Like you said, it always seems like they take two steps forward and then one step back. I’d even say they take two steps to the side and a skip and a hop diagonally. Backwards.
I think I’ll enjoy this game more if I don’t think of it as an Assassin’s Creed game. It’s a Ninja/Samurai game. They’ve lost the Tenets and they’ve dropped the original Ten Commandments they had for their games.
I want to like the game, but I’ll keep my expectations low.
I think having Yasuke be able to be in the open makes sense as samurai are commonplace. in the trailers NPC’s even bow so it works while Naoe as an assassin is much more reserved to hiding. This would give a reason to play as Yasuke as it becomes easier to move around in open places whereas Naoe works best in enclosed or heavily urban areas.
Also, maybe Yasuke could have a bonus feature that allows him access into restricted areas without stealth because of his samurai background, meaning he can walk right into enemy lines and take out the target that way…
I never used social stealth unless it was a part of a mission and I was forced too.
I hope the petition goes through and this garbage doesnt come out
Me personally I won’t buy assassins creed games ever unless they fix their stuff, Ubisoft has went to assassins greed.
Social stealth wouldn't make sense when Yusuke and Naoe clearly stand out among civilians with their armor/weapon on their backs. Maybe if they can change their appearance like putting on a straw hat and cloak.
2:00 why not? It's not about of usefulness, it's about playstyle. I wasn't always the ghost in Ghost of Tsushima. Sometimes you just want to fight.
You made this vid like there’s not people out here that legitimately enjoys the combat in assassin creed.
I love how hated Syndicate was for the fact that Jacob and Evie played so similarly (among other things), so there was no point in switching between them, but now that they have a two protagonists that play completely differently, they keep going "omg why can't I play more stealthy with the obviously armoured-to-teeth brute character"
Thats because the high emphasis combat in these recent games is never what Assassins Creed is suppose to be
what sets it apart is the appeal to stealth
Combat is only used as a last resort or when you botched up an assassination attempt - thats the whole point - combat was never the focus, its being stealthy
why is it so hard to understand that with this game?
@@Cruddy129 and why is it so hard for y’all to accept the series has changed and combat is here to stay? Let’s not forget people complained loudly that the games were repetitive, so they finally switched it up, and yet yall still complain. Hell right now there literally giving us both ! Yet people still freakin complain.
@@Cruddy129so why was combat so OP starting from Brotherhood to Rogue? To the point where you didn’t even need stealth
@@chicken1456A bunch of people with no understanding of the franchise/games complained about aspects of the og AC games, leading to a breaking of formula that appealed to new, fleeting fans who don't give a damn about AC and what it originally stood for, while ultimately alienating the actual fans of AC, leading to more and more restrictive gameplay in games that ironically became more "repetitive" than the first games they complained about
Hitman is honestly the only triple A series using robust social stealth and one of the only places to get a real assassin fantasy going. Anyone who hasn’t played them they are well worth your time and have a lot of content and replay value. AC in it’s recent rpg arc just isn’t a stealth or assassination game anymore. It’s an action rpg where sometimes you play as an assassin but really just for narrative reasons. Anything unique that made AC a great stealth series is gone. Some people love it, some people hate it, but either I’m not really surprised. i still like these games and they’re fun but they’re just bad AC games if that makes sense. I mean hopefully Mirage did well enough and Bordeax is working on something similar. And we’ve heard that Hexe is set to focus more on stealth as well. We also have the Metal Gear remake and the Splinter Cell remake coming up, so it’s not all doom and gloom for stealth. I think Ubi can do both. They don’t want to stop their cash cow that is the rpg formula when Valhalla was the first title in the series ro surpass 1 billion dollars in revenue. But, to keep the series from getting stale they could offer games of both styles for each group. Especially with how hard they seem to be leaning into the franchise moving forward. Would be the best of both worlds but we’ll see how it goes.
Yes Yasuke, the Honorable Samurai, who crushes men’s heads with his feet. An extremely dishonorable act
Naoe is the best stealth character, no doubt about it.
But I think that the motivation to play Yasuke is more just by-the-person, the fantasy to play an honorable samurai with a noble goal who is a COMPLETE badass, shoulderbashing castle gates down and systematically working his way through an entire castle with just a sword, a gun and his armor.
Naoe is genuinely just, for stealth, sure you could go into open combat with her but as we've seen it takes a really long time to kill anyone and Naoe is still a glass canon even compared to that amount of damage, she has very little health.
I doubt Yasuke will have much motivation to play if you play stealthily but I also doubt Naoe will be able to keep up with his open combat strength in the latter half of the story.
Its hella wierd to get rid of socialstealth in a game about ninjas since they where quite litterally using it irl when they existed. Its the perfect time to have a system like this.
Ubisoft Quebec forgot to add social stealth to the game with, if not Assassin, but Shinobi protagonist
These bastards fucked up every setting they take
I was very disappointed that ubisoft didn't even try to improve on the social stealth mechanics for Mirage. No innovation or new ideas. It's literally copy and paste from the prior titles.
“the parkour will be super limited with him”
to be fair, the parkour is already super limited with the actual assassin character anyway, so will it really make a difference?
I still don’t like it they could done something different to set them apart
With Naoe you can do social stealth, but how can you do social stealth in feudal Japan, when and where you are the only one who is not Asian?
Who isn’t disappointed by this dumpster fire. This game is woke trash
Facts
I'm an old school AC player too, so I see these as stealth games, but we have to remember that a portion of the newer audience doesn't recognize the inherent stealth nature of the series. It's entirely possible to play Valhalla and Odyssey as a brawler, and while stealth existed even there, it could be used minimally. I suspect Yasuke exists to appease this portion of the playerbase.
I think the only reason we have two protagonists is the aforementioned fear of alienating non-stealth players, and the general discomfort Ubisoft has always shown towards having a single female protagonist. You're likely aware this has plagued the series since Origins, where Aya / Amunet was originally intended to be the core playable character, and this fear prevented that. Founded or not, there is a pervasive fear in this industry with forcing male players into the role of female protagonists. Misguided, imho.
p.s. in this very video you say Bayek had yet to create the brotherhood - he never did, Aya did.
They both did
You must understand that a lot of the newer rpg players WANT to just run in and fight people
"Honourable samurai"... then proceeds to step on a guy's head and crush it after he kills him, then decapitates the target later on... giving further proof that they didn't actually research Japanese history and culture.
There was a legal authorization that allows samurai to do that to people who disrespects him. Kiri-sute gomen. That show Shogun that was airing recently that takes place quite closely to this period has a beheading of a random person scene right at the beginning.
Samurais often were not as honorable and chivalrous as you believe, my man. Stop watching so many movies and actually do your research.
I'm getting sick of people crying about social stealth. I'll put my life on it that literally no one constantly used social stealth in the old games apart from a set few missions. There's no way anyone was blending with the crowd to kill a target or sitting on a bench to wait for a target to walk by apart from a select few. Why are people kicking up a fuss when social stealth wasn't really used anyway.
Ubi has dropped the ball so hard with these characters. Ngl if they gave the option to play a male naeo I’d be happier cause who doesn’t wanna stealth it in assassins creed ?
What Ubisoft seems to be doing with Yasuke not being stealthy, is that it plays into tge 2 characters dynamics. Naoi is meant to be the stealthy, true assassin, while Yasuke is tge brute. I think they did this because in valhalla and odyssey they couldn't seem to make charecters both a warrior and an assassin (which is stupid because they've already done that in origins and black flag) so instead of making one charecter that's an assassin and a samurai, they split it into 2 characters. Which is also stupid because Ghost of tsushima took a samurai and gave him assassin like qualities. Maybe they didn't go that route as to not be compared to Ghost of Tsushima, but it's in Japan si comparisons should've been a given. Idk, Ubisoft doesn't make the best decisions in my opinion.
So happy ghost of Tsushima actually has a complex story with a character born with a samurai heritage either doing things the honorable way or doing things to save the most people. Of course assassin creed doesn’t know how to write complex characters anymore so they’ll probably make one start off as a villain then redeem themself because oh well they told me this and then joins the good side because they lied to that character. That’s one of my theories of how the story will go.
If I had a nickel for every Ubisoft game what takes place in Japan I would have two nickels
Feels like yasuke should have been an npc and that he was only made playable to appease the upper management. I’m still weary of how balanced the missions are going to be. I don’t want it to be like syndicate where 90% of the players play as evie most of the time but the game forces you to play as Jacob for almost every story mission.
Maybe Ubisoft need to give the franchise a rest for a bit rather than cranking out half-baked games.
Social stealth never made sense to me in most games as enemies could never pick the 1 heavily armed individuals with a hood just because they sit on a bench or walk in a crowd at least in Valhalla had the decency to cover up all the weapons with a cloak
Not gonna lie this make me disappointed even more why won’t won’t you make social strath in the game 🤦🏾♂️😒
Agreed. AC is known for stealth. So making a character that brute forces his way through everything is a complete 180 from the norm
They basically made ghost of Tsushima as a slice assassin Creed 60 ,40 with this game
I hope Yasuke isn’t relegated to just ‘big man go smash’. That would get boring very quick. Especially because Naoe seems to also be able to do open combat with no issue.
I mean have you seen her get hit yet?
I love that all of these people who "enjoy" playing games just choose to complain. Nothing shows Naoe is strong at combat just competent.. Why can't we ever just look forward to a game. I only say that cause no one talks about the good, just the bad. Subliminally telling people not to buy based off anothers opinion.
YAY, YOU USE GUNS! I like how Yasuke just charges through the doors. I like Yasuke so I might use him more.
5:36 In Liberation I usually dress as a slave. I can't climb buildings in a dress but if I'm in Assassin gear I might draw unwanted attention since they never have no notoriety. Even though you don't have good weapons as a slave, if you're not trying to get into combat then you don't need them. Liberation was a pretty weak game though. I didn't like it that much.
Odyssey doesn't even involve Assassins.
9:18 He's an advocate of gender equality.
Tbh I think I'll play yaskue alot since I love ripping into enemies but I also like to be stealthy so I'll enjoy both quite alot me personally
Edit: and social stealth I'm fine without yes I'd love to see it but each studio has there ways of doing things to make there games feel somewhat different, times have changed and it seems they like changing it up so I think the next time you'll see social stealth is probably going to be when the makers of mirage bring out there next game I'm mainly a call of duty player and I love AC but I've noticed with 3 different studios, they make there own respective call of duty feel different then the last with there own twist on things weapons, maps, tools, etc, I know AC is completely different but I thought cod was a good example to how each game is made, I don't know I could be completely off the mark with this but that's just my thoughts as of now
If you're drawing attention to yourself, getting your target to look at you and doing it brutally which means it most likely won't be quick. Don't think that can be considered an assassination at that point.
To be honest I intend to play as Naoe whenever the game allows me to. Yasuke seems to OP on combat so boring.
Why can't we create our own character and play the way we want without these restrictions? It's so dumb...
Just like WD legion have that feature already implemented within...
Just you know. You can't create them but rather pick them and change whenever it's necessary...
when will ubisoft learn that these rpg games are not assasins creed. I loved mirage as it went back to the mechanics of the old games. They need to go back to those.
I thought that shenobi's or ninjas whatever they are called, are not supposed to be seen. Not even in a crowd. They blend with the SHADOWS.
Tell me why they are making an assassins creed game where one of their characters essentially takes the assassin part out of the game
I’ve gotten less and less excited for the game as it goes
im gonna choose someone with a hidden blade and good stealth over some hulk
They should’ve used Hattori Hanzo instead of yasuke, he would’ve fit perfectly since in real life he was both a shinobi and a samurai, he’d be good doing both a stealth play and a direct combat play
Woketards don't know who he was, you'll damage their brains further 😂😂😂
Ghost of Tsushima 2 basically
Why have the second character then
@@ThePamphs simple, don’t have one, they don’t need a second main character to make a good AC game, they’ve done so in the past. If anything they could focus on fleshing out and making a more interesting story for the MC if it’s one.
Or you could have both characters but change up the plot a bit like this. At first these two shinobi are trying to kill each other because they serve different lords naoe serves the Oda clan and Hanzo serves the Tokugawa clan. They stop trying to kill each other when they become knowledgeable about the creed of assassin’s and templars by naoe having the mission to meet and escort a Dutch Templar to meet with Nobunaga, and Hanzo having the mission to kill the Dutch Templar. They both cross paths they both fight, then they get interrupted by an assassin from the creed who kills the Dutch man. They interrogate the assassin and he explains everything to them, the Templars lust for world domination and control and their long war with them. They let the assassin go and agree to not kill each other and to keep in contact and monitor their lords.
Naoe’s lord Oda Nobunaga’s love for western weapons and works makes naoe suspicious of him and make her worried that he could fall victim the Templars influence. Her fears are justified as she finds out while spying on her lord during a meeting he is having with a mysterious man that they are discussing whether the Templars will come and help Nobunaga finish conquering Japan. Nobunaga agrees and is made a member of the Templars on the spot. Naoe in shock escapes the castle and goes to Tokugawa territory to find Hanzo and relay to him the news, she finds him and they plan to find that assassin they spared and let them know and ask for their help in taking down Nobunaga. Thats all I got rn
That would ruin the Jewish propaganda.
Ubisoft Quebec keeps making the mistake of doing something that seems cool and not thinking it all the way through. So much of what we see and hear can be explained by them thinking it's a cool idea and not considering how to do it right. No social stealth makes sense for Yasuke but they didn't then compensate by further fleshing out stealth as whole and social stealth for Naoe. Every single bad decision and subsequent controversy can be explained by them going "wouldn't it be cool if...?" and that's it, no further consideration.
social stealth never make sense at all... imagine as Ezio, a wanted person and you can walk freely with an assassin robe full of weapon. How can social stealth work? That's the most stupid thing I've ever seen.
@@Player-gv5lpthe lore says that assassins wear time accurate clothes but we don’t see it in game so
to be honest they probably didn't think about it beyond "we can have a black AND a woman protagonist!"
@@Player-gv5lpac1 kinda made sense with the scholars but only when with them otherwise it was stupid, wouldn't the guards see a 6 foot man doing parkour with the extremely obvious assassin's robes? You could say the same about most games of the series: unrealistic, blind guards who can't see hooded armed persons. But, there was a game that handled it pretty well: ac: liberation. They had the persona system a system which allowed the player to dress like a slave or a noble woman and added quite a bit of realism to the stealth in the game. Unfortunately, Ubisoft has never replicated that since.
@@griff_the_boxerget your politics out of here
This is interesting, because ninjas actually did use disguises to blend in. It would be so perfect to implement Liberation’s system into this game but ah well.
The stealth is not just supposed to be attacking camps at nights. Playing as Altair & Ezio showed us that the stealth can be at broad daylight with crowds existing. They just try to ruin everything good about their franchises
It’s funny they didn’t put any social stealth/disguise system in considering that’s probably what a real shinobi back then would have been doing mostly, spying
They probably think shinobi just killed people and made the stealth system fit that instead
They probably making a game where you ain't spying but getting shit done.
This ain't historical accurate.
I dunno if it is an unpopular opinion or not, but I kinda think Yasuke was initially intended to be an NPC/supporting historical character instead of a playable protagonist.
But higher ups wanted the devs to have both a male and a combat-heavy character available.
Thanks for not mentioning his skin dawg I appreciate it
I think it was diverse equality inclusion or whatever. Ubisoft would rather shit on Japanese history to cater to something no one ever asked for. Yasuke as a side character would have been awesome like Leonardo but as a protagonist which can have male lovers is kinda a kick in the pants to the Japanese and their history.
Yeah and his animations seem less smoother than naoe, as if he was made later in development
i can see that, they really don't like female main characters being the lead for some reason
I feel like the devs just liked Naoe better and didn’t spend as much time on Yasuke.
With the involvement of Sweet Baby Inc and the overblown inclusion with Yasuke. I think I might be done with the franchise, I am sorry for it was a good series but it has been getting worse since Origins; everything before Origins was a true Assassin’s Creed game but some things were enjoyable about the games until now. But this game feels like a slap in the face followed by a kick in the ass out the door.
I completely agree with you.
Cry more, bigot.
SBI is not involved.
@astronotics531 I think you're missing the point. While there is no clear proof that SBI is directly involved or not, we all know what's happening here. This scream of DEI, loud and clear. The point is, overall, these AC games are going downhill since origins.
I gave up. Ubisoft doesnt know what they are doing anymore. Just greed and pandering.
We are the shadows the tallest and bulkiest Man I have ever seen
He is talking about his color bro😂
what
@@Dandansuuuy Yasuke on AC shadows is a samurai and like 3 feet taller than anyone else - even if he was Asian he'd still stick out like a sore thumb
He’s supposed to stick out
He dark like a shadow he sopposed to blend in the dark better then naoe
A bit disappointed but wasn't hit that hard since we didn't have good social stealth for a decade now, minus Mirages. Mirage is ok but wasn't that good in social stealth either. Non better than Unity and never other game like Unity will be made, never
If Unity wasn’t such a broken mess it’d be the ground work for the best AC but NOPE
I like the change. It didn’t make sense for enemies to randomly attack you on the street.
@@Calypso694i had zero technical problems with Unity. got it on day one and it’s been in my top 3 ac games ever since. its even ranked my favorite sometimes. wish Ubisoft delayed and just went with Rogue for 2014, things could’ve gone really different
@@RadioNocturnus then you are one of the lucky ones
@@RadioNocturnusoh it’s not broken in terms of just gameplay although a lot of it does remain like that, namely the janky combat and uncomfortable to use parkour. It has arguably the worst writing, story, and side characters in the entire series to date. No amount of patches will fix bad writing
Three words: Sweet Baby Inc.
Not buying a game they are involved in, a game where they put in a hip hop track during his fight when hes from Africa and not America. It was cringy af.
you are brainwashed, you poor baby boy, maybe stay off social media rage/clout bait vids like "GAME WOKE" "SWEET BABY INC STRIKES AGAIN"
and you'll start to feel stupid once you realize that your entire opinion on something was based on someone else's.
tho it might be too late for you.
AC Shadows❌ Ghost of Tsushima: Alibaba Edition✅
SO i feel like Yasuke is going to be more of an RPG character, and Naoe is more of an assassin character for obvious reasons. I THINK the idea around it is to please both types of fans.
I also feel like the lack of social stealth makes sense IF they focus on using shadows. I don't know if they will have a light mechanic like splinter cell but that seems like the best route to make the gameplay feel similar to these older games. While Yasuke is more of the power fantasy character. You pick stealth or strength. And since stealth seems like less of a priority in the RPG games, they wanted a character that felt like both playstyles
Take that opinion with a grain of salt. I haven't actually played any game newer than blackflag yet, I am an old fan that dropped the series and am just now catching up. I am playing rouge for the first time now :) I just wanted to say that lol
I’m not please cuz they limit yasuke parkour 🤦🏽♂️
I'm actually one of the very few excited for this game 😂
The long awaited assassin's creed game set in japan, and i am not excited in the least. After origins, ac isn't even worth spending the money.
Origins is the worst out of rpg games. Stop following the bandwagon
@@DevJaglan-r7k😐
@mokaakashiya375 Agreed.
@@DevJaglan-r7kassassins Creed originaly IS not rpg game they been inspirée by thé witcher 3
@@DevJaglan-r7k It's not bandwagon. It is the best of the three. Gameplay as well as story.
Naoe is a woman with a visable sword on her back, which at the time was not socially acceptable. For that reason, social stealth would not make any sense.
And edward is always wearing a pirate outfit which is illegal and should send every guard onto him at any time. Same thing for basically any assassin wearing a very fancy outfit compared to the npc around them, as well as a very suspicious hood that again shoumd send every guard onto them at any time. The only 2 for which it is more believable are altair as his outfit is made to blend with monks, and arno because of the constant chaos of the revolution. But sure, this thing that has always been a staple of the ac games despite logically not making any sense at all only makes no sense now
Exactly. I don't understand why some people think that social stealth could fit every setting and time period. In my opinion parkour is a core mechanic of the series, one you can't do a game without; social stealth isn't.
@@docomega7862 I am not talking about outfits. I’m talking about a woman wearing a weapon in a time when not only a woman but a “non-noble” wearing a weapon was against the law.
If Naoe didn't have the sword but just 2 daggers it would be so much easier to conceal indeed.
@@neutralbychoice3584 and being a pirate was not against the law perhaps? Yet edward can do social stealth perfectly fine. Also casually walking around while wearing enough weapols to take on an army and conceiling your identity with a hood, despite maybe not being illegal shoumd be suspicious enough to get into questioning by any guard on sight. Purely arguing from real life logic and laws, social stealth never made any shred of sense. So why start acting now like it is an issue because it's not realistic
From this quote "Naoe is invisible by default for NPCs in the open-world - Yasuke is impossible to blend in unoticed.”
I read it as Naoe having permanent social stealth and is only noticeable when doing illegal stuff.
Another W vid from thr goat, im sure this game will be great, gotta be optimistic sone times.
This is gamers in 2024 bro, no positivity in anything. Gamers just love doom and gloom 24/7
@windebiesteultima3317 you can't be so close to the truth !
10:05 I agree with you, but this is very “on brand” for Ubisoft.
Because they make so many games so often, they have a terrible habit of removing things that don’t work instead of trying to fix and reimplement them. It’s the same reason parkour has gotten more automated - it’s easier to water it down than to make it work for everyone.
It’s more efficient from a business POV, but sucks for players that would’ve liked to see an imperfect system improved.
Honestly social stealth in AC was always really basic and never anything special mechanically, and it was always pretty ridiculous on the face of it so I can’t help but feel like not much is lost here.
Being invincible while not doing anything by defaults is much more braindead excuses than social stealth since a woman with swords and hood during that time period will standout more without social stealth. Its a simple logic, one that the devs doesn't have while making this game.
its sad because what we want is so easy to execute, but they manage to go off course entirely with the games they release.
Everything woke flops. Nobody wants it in games, movies, and t.v. but they keep doing it. They just don't get it
The worst part about this is that social stealth in this setting would be so EASY. There are countless ways they could easily incorporate it into the game. Standing at a shop window, or by a sale cart. Even just walking in the crowd with 3 people in your immediate vicinity.
Me trying be sneaky with yasuke and he yells ima be laughing 😂
If you want a medium that respects Janapese culture, watch Shogun or just play Ghost of Tsushima again.
What's Janapese?
OK but weren't yall the ones that were saying that Jacob and Evie were they same so what happened now that the 2 characters have completely different playstyle?
It's dumb move from the start. They should've pushed for hard RPG mechanics and let you create either a more bulky assassin or a more stealthy one. A but like in GoT you can straight line the gsme going full samurai or full Ghost.
This 2 character thing is dumb. Assassins are by definition stealth characters with decent light fighting skills...
Just focus on one character, having two characters is stupid and will make the gameplay suffer in the end! Since most people like to have a balance of both stealth and combat!
@@adamibnal-alam8917 I hate the RPG elements in AC games, but even I agree that this would be a better idea than two characters!
@@adamibnal-alam8917except for the kenways lol
I know one thing, if this game gets released in japan, it will flop so hard.
If there isnt going to be a notoriety system like mirage or the older games, I hope there will be something like the Phylakes from origins. Some level if threat to keep you aware if your surroundings but not be outright hunted.
I knew Ubisoft Quebec making Shadows was a mistake
Crowd blending is not really necessary if mechanically they're no different from bushes or this time, shadows. It wasn't the Scholars that made social stealth work. Altair could blend on his own to avoid suspicion. In fact, Blending in the game functioned like Crouching but more OP because you don't even have to be out of sight. The only benefit of the Scholars was getting into restricted areas.
What made social stealth was the reactions of civilian NPCs rather than the guards' AI being hostile / not hostile. The crowds, according to your actions, can either be a strength, or a curse (running away, screaming, attacking you, adding chaos and bringing attention to you). And thus, if you're mindful of your surroundings, you can operate without being seen, even if you can't mechanically hide in crowds. I think it adds to the "In Plain Sight" bit even more if you can't hide among people like you would in a haystack and could only control your detection with socially-acceptable actions.
I can totally see social stealth working in Shadows if Naoe walks around without a hood, similarly to how it worked in Syndicate. Then she looks like a regular peasant woman and can probably get in certain areas that are normally restricted. And even more opportunities with Yasuke. He is a samurai with authority that holds public respect and commanding presence. It's like saying a person wearing a police uniform can't do social stealth... There's so much room for social stealth with him, where he could get certain information by asking the guards directly or using legal threat, or get into restricted areas because of his status, etc. Social status and privilege kind of imply better social stealth opportunities especially if you notice how everyone was bowing to him during the demo. It's not really about hiding, it's about doing stuff in public and nobody questioning you for it.
But even if there's none, this is a game that sells the fantasy of being a Ninja. Ninja use shadows, not crowds. Doesn't seem like those villages are crowd-heavy either. So I can totally understand if they wanted to focus more on Traditional stealth. The more focused the experience is, the better the chance of mechanics working well. But it would also be cool if they decided to go back to basics and make social stealth work like it did in AC1, with different levels of suspicion based on behavior. Social stealth was technically present in Valhalla, and it served absolutely no purpose. I'd rather it not be in the game than be for show only.
Let's also remember that Shadows was supposed to be an RPG. A game made for Odyssey fans, after we got Mirage. We kinda knew what to expect, but it seems like everyone was so impressed with the demo that now they recognize it as "the game for old fans" too and expect it to be more like Mirage than Odyssey when before the demo there was absolutely no hint of it happening. Let's not get greedy. I think it's not that good if Shadows decided to throw RPG fans under the bus either, despite promising a next-gen RPG experience. But so far this game doesn't look anything like an RPG but more like a refined stealth-action, which is not a bad thing for me.
You're actually on to something here...
Agree with your whole point regarding Naoe way of "social stealth". Why do ppl keep bringing the Creed's Tenet about "Hiding in plain sight" for their validation of having social stealth is a must, when it seems like they don't even fully understand what "Hiding in Plain Sight" mean.
@@thangngudxop the word "hiding" confused people that they forget about "in plain sight" part. Maybe it's just me, but if you're hiding in a crowd of people, you're not in plain sight anymore. To avoid confusion I prefer "operate discreetly in plain sight". If you simply stand there out in the open and they can see you, but they don't see you as a threat because you're not doing anything wrong, then it's truly hiding in plain sight. Having blending spots is nice, but when the game requires you to be in one all the time to avoid suspicion, then it's not really social stealth because it's no different from going from cover-to-cover / bush-to-bush. A better social stealth system gives opportunity to either wear disguises if your normal appearance can't give you access to a forbidden area or to use other NPCs to let you in, like what Liberation had with charming mechanics.
This is one of the most nuanced and fair takes I’ve ever seen in a TH-cam comment.
Which means it’s gonna be ignored by most people😂
@@bloodymaresI'm thinking of more disguise such as a shameless pathetic beggar, or a lunatic/retard whose mouth is drooling, playing around like a disable child, pissing right in front of the targets face and they wouldn't even know they're being tailed/targeted. But yeah, i don't think devs would go that far for a main char but i think it'd still work.
Why is everyone mad ac shadows 😅looks so cool 😅
I dont care about story i care about gameplay tbh
Its a 2024 Ubisoft game. That's enough for me to not buy it
thanks for the information idc bout what ppl think an ac with ninjas is what i wanted since a kid playing ezio so i just hope they deliver
New challenge is going to be Yasuke stealth only run XD
But how we will find out later
i just hope its different then ac valhalla…
Idk why Valhalla seemed like a step back, like the visuals, facial animations, cloth physics etc. I liked the story, but again it was too long for its own good and also the sidequests were so bad and repetitive. And hopefully this game will have mocapped facial animations or atleast human expressions unlike Valhalla.
@@ronlionheart1646it’s crazy comparing black flag cutscenes with Valhalla ones
Different and good can be very far apart especially where Ubisoft is concerned.
@@ronlionheart1646 I think they were forced to work with an impossible goal: the higher ups wanted Valhalla to continue as an online service like GTA 5. they crammed a lot of content into the game, resulting in poor quality. It's clear that the worse the game is, the fewer people will play it for long
I mean AC combat gameplay was fun if you try learning
Best AC game ever made, the kid is still disappointed... riight, the old games were trash and Mirage was trash.. Odyssey and Origins was okay, with the new format that actually worked... but still lacked a stealth system and other things.
The first AC game was only good for the time it was made in, in retrospective it was just bad overall.
This is even the first game that actually has a stealth system... litearlly. (No, having a hidden blade that you can walk up to people and kill them with and being able to hide in hay/grass, is not a stealth system).
I know it's popular constantly complaining and crying, but get yourself together kid, holy fuck. And... social stealth?? who the fuck wants to just stand in a crowd and wait till enemies don't look for you anymore.. was always dumb and not fundamental at all and in AC1 where he hides between munks... sure, but he still has weapons and other things that stand out, it would not be realistic in any way or form, so whatever..
FURTHERMORE... you complain about how it's okay that Origins and Odyssey doesn't have social stealth, because they are not assassins... well, Ninjas were only out at night and didn't walk around in the crowd with their Ninja/assassin outfit on... so it wouldn't make senese either.
They should also just drop the AC series, drop the hidden blade and restart it all (or simply make a new series that does better). Reset it all.
Why are you assuming most people are gonna use naoe maybe some people like direct combat and get bored with stealth I am gonna use both equally and get the best of both worlds
I will never play this garbage game nor tolerate the disrespect its’ creators have shown to Japanese people. Judging from dislikes on TH-cam, it seems like the majority of people (who saw the trailer) won’t be wasting money on it either. Maybe Ubisoft can make their profits on a handful of micro-transaction “whale” buyers 😂
Social stealth is not a thing because Yasuke couldn't do it, he towers over the other NPC's. It would be just another thing that Naoe could do and he couldn't. That's why it's not a thing.
So because They absolutely had to have their diversity blackman we cant have social stealth ? For fuck sake.
You’re Eastern European go play the one set in Istanbul
Yeah, but they could have just given Naoe social stealth. It wouldn't have been some game breaking thing
I'm honestly fine with stuff like crowd blending not being a mechanic in the game. As the devs described it, Naoe isn't distinguishable from the crowds in Japan. So apparently its normal to see civilians with swords, I guess. Others will just assume you're a samurai, even though you're not. But at first glance, you are. I guess we're in a different culture anyway, so I can see why it's not a feature. We are getting a little too comfortable using the mechanic in stealth, not gonna lie.
But anyway, yes, Naoe isn't distinguishable from the crowd, only thing is: As long as you don't cause a scene or do anything to alarm the enemy NPCs, I think you should be fine. However in the heat of the moment, I would imagine you can just throw a smoke bomb to disappear and lose the enemy NPCs quickly. I do hope disguises will still be a feature tho. Cus female shinobis have been known to put on disguises in order to infiltrate certain places, like pretending to be a geisha for example.
So we shall see, maybe not all aspects of social stealth is gone.
Bro you dont belong here man keep the rubbish opinion to yourself.
"We are getting a little too comfortable using the mechanic in stealth, not gonna lie." this is the dumbest comment i've ever seen, its like saying a chef should not use fire to cook because they got too comfortable with it?wtf? How else would you cook? Assassin not being stealth but shout at people that they want to kill and fight face to face with honour. Sure mate. its normal sto see civilians with swords? you don't even understand a single thing about japan. They are called katana, odachi, nodachi and more depending on their length and its nothing like a western swords or knifes. Depending on the year and no its not normal to see civilians with katana as the resources to procure and make them are scarce back in the day. Unless you come froms a very powerful family or clans you don't have the luxury to own one.
Ghost of Tsushima has more assassin character and adopted the stealth more than this ubi trash creation. Ronin armour are introduced and all the stealth like skills make more sense than this trash. They think calling it shadow would hide the fact that an assassin who is a black man would go around shouting at people that he wants to assassinate with honor wearing heavy samurai armour with base ball bat. Japanese people who knows the history find this very insulting as its nothing like that at all, there are so many more honourable figure than Yasuke in the history of Japan man. They are using Yasuke because its easier to relate since anime and many other games has used Yasuke in the past and he is closer to western culture, well compared to an asian men anyway, they can't use white people because it won't make sense, so yeah to save money, save time they just simple throw a yasuke here once again. This is a f***ing joke!
Based on your comment i can conclude and confirm that this is very true as the ubisoft team that are currently working on this game did not do any or adequate research on japanese history. By using Yasuke as the MC confirms that it is indeed trying to attract igorance players like you who knows nothing and don't even care about what the actual facts were as long as it somehow can be relate by you. If they have just use a white people as the protaganist, i am sure it does not matter what the mechanics or looks were you won't even care or question it.
Lets be real, graphics and mechanis aside, the franchise get worse every time a new game was released. Each game are diverting away from the assassin theme, because instead of creating a brand new game with new names, which means more budget and money spent on marketing. They just keep using the exact same asset they've have and building a game within that AC franchise. From AC Orign to AC Odessy and to Mirage, if you look carefully, the buildings look exactly the same with slightly different layout change with some new environment asset changes and specific buildings, but the rest of them are the same.
I don’t think Ubisoft was thinking about the sword. You could do social stealth as a fire demon in mirage.
@@HahahMamaman What do you mean when they weren't thinking about the sword? I've never heard it used metaphorically.