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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2022
- Have you ever wondered if it was possible to get permanently stuck in Ocarina of Time's Water Temple? Well over the years there has been myths and legend exclaiming this exact thing. That it is possible to get to a point in the Water Temple where you have 1 locked door and no small keys and are permanently stuck.
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I remember that room.
Never expected so many people got lost because they missed it...
Neither did I.. I kept getting stuck until I realize you need to blow up that wall around 4:13
@@adventureoflinkmk2 When I was a kid I was so stuck, there. The only way I saw it was because I accidentally clipped the camera through that wall
@@adventureoflinkmk2 that one was rough too. Those 2 rooms absolutely destroyed me as a kid
Same I thought it was pretty obvious
There are a lot of stupid people out there. 83IQ is the lowest that the US army will hire, because any lower and the problems they cause more manpower than they can provide. 15% of the population is that stupid, which is a real problem for society.
The funniest thing is that you can actually complete the dungeon without that key at all. You can use another entrance to that center room by saving and starting on the top floor. I thought this was the way to do it as a kid when I restarted the whole game thinking I was permanently stuck. You can beat this dungeon with an EXTRA key!
The only dungeon I know of, if you do things right, you'll have a spare key. Shows how complex the water temple truly is. Farore's wind is MVP in the water temple.
i want to see this
Which version are you talking about, N64 or 3DS? They are different.
@@weibingchen4183 N64. I haven't tried it in 3DS
I love you so much. Thanks.
I honestly wish more dungeons were this complex. Really made me think.
Aaaaugh
@Ikey Ilex stone tower in majora's mask is one of my favorites.
Yeah, good dungeon
calm down, satan
Twilight Princess says “hi”.
I actually think that the water temple is an acquired taste. The more I play ocarina of time, the more I come to like it. With multiple playthroughs you start to rout this thing more efficiently using farores wind for instance. Also playing this temple in OOT3D is a lot better than in the N64 Version because you don't constantly have to pause to equip/unequip the iron boots. But in the end a temple has to be fun for everyone l, not just the ever recurring players that already know how to beat it. I have to admit It sure was frustrating as a kid.
Agreed. I find my self linking water more, and disliking fire.
Idk about that chief. I played trough it multiple times and I still get lost in it. It's always that point of the game where you bang your head against the wall multiple times until you break trough somehow and can't even explain how you did it.
@Ikey Ilex It's less of an "Eureka" moment and more like of "wait, why did that work? I've been doing the exactly same thing this entire time! Or was I?", so I never understand exactly what I did wrong in the first place and how I fixed it later. It's really a matter of keep trying for long enough and I'll magically beat it, be it in 1 hour or 8 hours later.
@Ikey Ilex Like I said, I dunno. Sometimes I'm just missing keys that I have no idea how to get (and it's not the one in the video, that I figured out quite fast). I remember struggling with the cracked wall you need to blast near the first water level changing spot a lot, that block puzzle in 1F(?) that you need to get to the other side to finish and I never know how to do, and I remember an entrance near the top of the whirlpool room that drives me insane and I don't even know if I'm really supposed to get there from that room or not. The map of that place is such a mess that it doesn't help me at all, so just go around doing things over and over again until at some point, somehow, I end up finding a key somewhere I had skipped before and I can finally progress.
Even I got stuck on the water temple myself :( and got stuck until I found you need to blow up a certain wall
EDIT: 4:14 is the wall of which I speak of
I personally considered this temple not difficult, what most of the players forget is that there is an item that helps you A LOT with the backtracking to the water level rooms: Farore's Wind
Using Farore's Wind helps a lot and many players did not even consider using it here
That's fact!
Farore's Wind is so useful, it can open an avenue to dungeon completion, with a spare key you don't need to use.
For me, the most useful item was the Map
The water temple is awesome because of how challenging it is. I wish newer zelda games had dungeons as challenging as the water temple
then people would hate any inspiration water temple new dungeon 🤷♀
It primarily challenges the endurance of the start button.
Oh god no I’ll drink bleach if there’s a new water Temple
No god please no one water temple was enough
You helped the rest of chat beat this after school
When I was little this temple was an absolute nightmare, but in my recent play through I actually found it to be the most intuitive dungeon. Everything made a lot of sense and seemed to just flow for me whereas I got stuck and had to run around trying to find what to do at least once in every other dungeon. I know that definitely goes contrary to the normal opinion, but I think the layout is really well made and has become my favorite in the game!
See, I didn't get stuck in this dungeon when I played it for the first time, so I've always liked it lol. It's my 2nd favorite Adult Dungeon, behind the Spirit Temple.
Same. I've always considered people who had a problem with this temple as either stupid, unobservant, or both.
I didn't get stuck either. I've always carefully explored everything, and I found the "hidden" room right away.
Twinrova is probably my favorite boss in Zelda games
Same, Shadow temple has always been the least favorite of mine, Never understood Water temple hate
you and I are reversed on this front. water temple my favorite, ith spirit a very close second. shadow temple would be my third (especially trying without lens of truth)
“Did you miss it?” Nope, and I love hidden items like this. RIP to those who missed it back in the day.
I didn’t know anything about this issue when my cousin got stuck here in the ‘90s. I borrowed the game and beat the game in a blind playthrough within one weekend. I remember thinking the Water Temple was tedious, but not necessarily hard.
I don’t think my cousin ever forgave me for beating his game before him, but he still loves Zelda so it’s all good. Overall, I think this kind of hidden chest should be used for non-essential items. This hiding spot would be legendary if it were hiding a piece of heart instead of a key.
Didn't miss it either 😆
Haven't played the game for like 20 years and i have no memories of this specifically but my immediate reaction to something moving like that is, besides being able to climb it, check if it was hiding anything.
The strange thing is, for me, I kept looking at the gap under the block wondering how I was going to move it (since further up this room is the _second_ time you change the water level). After a while I gave up, and decided I'd come back to it later; and looked up to find something to latch onto. Needless to say, I very quickly stumbled upon the solution.
Yeah me neither, I always thought people just complained about how tedious the dungeon was or frustrating to navigate, I never heard anyone say they were missing that key, which is kinda stupid honestly.
I mean; if you managed to find everything else upto that point, you'd have the map and compass. And despite how the map works, the map is working correctly. And if you have everything except that 1 key it'd be the only chest on the map that is close to the center tower. If you were to check the block rising up when you raise the water level to go down further to get closer to the chest, you'd find the opening which leads to it. And yes; the original cutscene very briefly shows the opening, but if you were to keep going around I would assume since you're focused on finding anything to help; you'd eventually see the opening under the block when it rises up.
The 3DS cutscene may seem like an overcorrection, especially when the other major problem of the Water Temple (pausing constantly to change the Iron Boots) was also changed as you can equip them like an item. If this wasn't to correct this pausing annoyance, it's to bring the boot usage in line with Zelda games that came after the N64 (Wind Waker and Twilight Princess Iron Boots)
Agreed. The boots pausing is obnoxious and bad design, but I think everything else about the dungeon is all right. The key is well hidden but you can find it with the map. The game has already taught you, try going to areas you were already at but with a different water level, and this is another example of that.
@@Sauraen I didn't think it was all that bad, particularly at the time. It was only in hindsight when WW gave them as an item when I thought "oh, this is way better."
@@fenixchief7 Yeah, in hindsight as like a 10 year old, I don't remember being bothered one bit by anything. I think the standard raised with newer games, and that made us realize relatively weaker mechanics of the older ones.
I honestly never understood why this temple gets so much hate. I always liked it.
Honestly the key I kept forgetting about is the second floor key above Ruto which requires the water level to be at level 2 and for you to backtrack to that area before you fully raise the water level. Though now, I honestly really like the Water Temple.
Yeah, i did miss this one too
Yes. That one. THAT FREAKING ONE.
It's worse because every time you backtrack, you see the damn cracked wall rubbed on your face but have no idea how to get there.
I remember the third time I ever did the Water Temple, I'd finally memorized that there was that one room in the basement with a key, so I was all gung-ho, but then on the way to Dark Link I was still short a key and I was like 'what now?' That key on 2F turned out to be the one I forgot. Now I can do all the dungeons in OoT without getting the Map or the Compass. Well I mean, I can also get all the Stray Fairies in all of Majora's Masks dungeons without getting the Map or Compass, so by comparison OoT's dungeons don't really compare, but....
2:10 It was like that for us, we were stuck for so long (my cousin and my sisters). Turns out what we missed was that song of time block after the long shot. It’s in the ground so easy to miss
Thank you. I believe I've just found my solution
Skill Issue
The part that had me convinced I broke the game was the fact that there are two different directions on the water temple which require two small keys back to back. If I used the keys in different spots and was convinced I was stuck. One had a small hallway with two locked doors and the other hand the place with the sinking platforms.
This detail needs to be discussed in this temple.
Wow man, taking 10 years to beat the water temple. You truly are The Hero of Time!
The Water Temple, has a path you take through it, and if you follow it and make sure not to skip a side room or key, you basically just do a few laps around the whole thing and it easy enough.
I got stuck at this temple for years as a kid as well, but it was the time block behind the long shot chest that got me. I actually beat master quest first and that’s how I discovered that block was there, so I was finally able to go back and beat the regular oot lol. Never missed the key below the center structure though. Didn’t realize people struggled on that one.
That is what got me too!
That was the one that got me, too. I had read online back then about the Hover Boots, and thought they let you fly. Because it's easy to see the end of that path in the whirlpool room with the dragon statue. So teen me thought the boots would help me get up there.
Early 2000s was an odd time for finding info on what to do in a game. No wonder there were so many rumors about finding the Triforce in game, etc.
@@BingFox for real. I wasn’t allowed to use the family computer when I was a kid so I didn’t figure out that block was there for literally years haha. In master quest you go through the whirlpool river in reverse via the room with the statue you mentioned and when I ended up in the long shot room and put 2 and 2 together my mind was absolutely blown.
Ocarina of Time is still my favourite game to this day 😎
The platform that floats up has a cork plunger look to it to me. That's what immediately got my attention.
i loved getting lost in the water temple, it was so unique compared to the other temples in the game and figuring out all of it's secrets was so rewarding. one of my favorite temples in the game.
Same, I hated playing it but I loved it at the same time
The struggle I went through as a 10 year old trying to beat the water temple was crazy. This was before walkthrough videos. I asked my older brothers for help and they gave me the good old "I forgot..." but when I finally did beat it I felt the best relief I've ever felt in my life. The cutscene where the water in Lake Hylia rises to its normal state is iconic to me because of what I went through back in 07.
I had the exact same experience when I was 7.. took me two years to beat it, I played minigames and enjoyed the ambiance instead- I also casually beat every other dungeon out of order before the water temple (minus shadow because scary)
This has always been my favorite dungeon. It was actually engaging for once.
It feels like, from my perspective, that the complaints against this dungeon amount to "I didn't sign up to use my brain when playing an rpg. How dare they force me to." Maybe that's an oversimplification, but other than constantly having to pause and equip different boots, I don't see anything frustrating or tedious about this dungeon. It just challenges your mind, that's all. Many of us would think of that as a good thing. 🙂
Zelda's not an RPG, it's action/adventure. :V
@@MrPoeGhost Yeah, it's kind of a hybrid. It struggled to find a midpoint between the two in its first several titles.
I agree. I have no compassion for people who complain about this dungeon. They might as well be saying, "hey I'm stupid and I'm proud of it!"
@@abstractdaddy1384 just because you like it because it made you think, thats not what other wanted while playing. The world dont work like you want. And that quote you did in the end is nothing more than stupid
Definitely the trickiest key in the game, though somehow it didn't ruin the dungeon for me when I was a kid. The cutscene was lost on me, so the map was actually how I figured it out. I obsessed over the mysterious unexplored basement room. So I combed over every space above it until I finally stumbled into the entrance. I was definitely stuck there for a bit, but I can't remember how long due to the time compression of my memory lol
I would have been 10 at the time. I want to say I beat the game within the span of a couple months, but it could have easily been more.
The water temple really isn't difficult. It's just tedious as hell. I never had an issue with it but just had the constant menu-ing.
Great video! I was stuck in the water temple for about 4 weeks. I eventually got so tilted that I decided to try walking on the spiked floor and eventually found it.
Maybe it’s only my favorite dungeon because I happened to catch that hidden hole on my first play through and it wouldn’t be otherwise. Funnily enough I missed that hole on subsequent play throughs. What really appealed to me about the Water Temple is all the different points where you could get sucked down to seemingly infinite depths, which with the underwater statuary and creepy cool music made it the most disturbing dungeon.
That exact room is why I was stuck on oot for years as a kid lol. It was a miracle that one time while trying to get through the temple i noticed the hole.
I don't know, I've spent many hours inside of the water temple, enjoyed it a lost and got angry at it a lot as well.. but that piece of puzzle was so satisfying to get over with once you realize you could access down below of that vertical tunnel, that everything else wasn't so bad in the end. If only the newest Zelda games had a dungeon like this, each one would have a super addition!
My favourite game of all time. I was stuck for weeks trying to figure this out and at one point thought the key didn’t exist too. Great video!
Yep, I knew exactly what key you were going to be talking about! My god, that was so frustrating when I had to look for a game walkthrough just for that one damn key.
The key i had trouble with in the water temple is the one behind the bombable wall when you go up to lower the water level for the first time. Always missed that one key, then started to remember it and the temple became a cakewalk.
This is why the Dark Souls series' message feature is so good. You sometimes see messages on the ground from other random players, but they can only be made of pre-written phrases. This means for confusing or unfair situations, you can get just enough of a hint to figure it out yourself. And you have to guess what a player meant by a certain phrase combo. This system makes it so that you don't need to look up OP answers online.
I had problems with keys in this temple, but the one in the basement was not one of them. I expected this would be about the key where you have to return to Ruto's location with the water at mid-level; that one gave me trouble because I never thought I had to return there in the first place.
I loved this dungeon as a kid but im also obsessed with puzzles and figuring out things on my own
The key beyond the longshot room was another hangup back in the day. Many players would save, quit, take a break, and come back later and be back at the start of the dungeon. I was a key short more than once as a kid because I did this.
As a kid in the 90s, I remember giving up on the game for getting stuck because I never bothered to look behind the chest where I obtained the longshot, I just walked back the other way to where I fought shadow link. I gave up knowing where to go after stumbling on so many dead ends. I had to lend the game to a friend so they could finish it for me.
That goddamn secret room. I never thought I was stuck permanently, but it caused me a lot of headache.
What makes this key even harder to find is the time spent between the key being available & the door you need to use it with. By the time you reach the locked door, you'd have to adjust the water levels all over again to backtrack for it, which feels like undoing progress. It sucks.
I saw it immediately, I feel like it's quite hard to miss, your eyes should naturally be drawn to the moving object and the camera angle is perfect for noticing the hole.
I'm glad I was not the only one who didn't notice the hidden room
5:11 The original cutscene in the N64 version is even worse for one underrated reason: most of the little cutscenes and other interruptions thus far are very easy to tune out of as, up to this point, they have generally communicated obvious information that the player would have been able to see if the gameplay weren't interrupted anyway.
As a kid I would not unlock the middle door, save and quit the game, and jump down to the middle floor from the top. This allowed me to skip the door and keep an extra key to beat the dungeon. I was so convinced that it was the only way that on subsequent playthroughs, I would set farore's wind to warp back so I wouldn't have to save and quit.
You don't really need to see that little glimpse of the room to think to explore down there though...
That's not the key I always forget, that one is the key behind the bombable wall you pass as you float up to the first water level spot. I always inevitably end up at the last door without a key, realize what I did, and find myself going back through the dungeon a second time for just one key.
Same here. I remember as a kid being stuck and going around the water temple, where I found the key in the central pillar. I eventually looked at the map and figured out where the one missing key was.
I went though this quite a number of playthroughs but other times it felt so natural to use the iron boots and go down into the water that just raised.
This video is hilarious. Pure gold. I am stuck on this key right now and it’s driving me crazy.
I was stuck on the water temple for 3 years because that damned room haha. I replayed the game all the way to that point 3 times in that span and looked once on my last play through on a whim out of boredom. I never had trouble after discovering it and always get through it on first tries every playthrough after that.
I’ve been stuck for over 25 years… thanks for this! Dusting off the cartridge now!
OoT3D is a real one for making sure the player won't ever be confused and the only thing challenging the player is the actual complex design of the dungeon.
I remember the joy i felt when I spotted that hole after hours of searching and starting the map
I remember that i spent hours just studying the water temple map in a way it made sense just to find what was still missing for me to do
I remember watching a blind playthrough of this game and their friend being amazed they found the room right away.
When a platform moves, it's generally a good idea to look underneath it, it's a reflex for me.
So I actually just now noticed something that almost makes it possible to get stuck, specifically the key behind the Longshot and the door you open with it to get to the boss key area in the vanilla progression (on the bottom floor, north end, raise the water level and go north, you'll see a door behind some spikes). If you were able to open that door before getting Longshot, you'd end up with a locked door, Longshot behind that locked door, and the last small key in the dungeon also behind that locked door, even if you knew about the extra key in the basement.
That one key in the central room is exactly why i try to pay close attention to my surroundings. Learned the hard way.
First Zelda game I ever played and the water temple kicked my ass as a kid playing on my dad's N64. So glad you made this video because this was the exact problem I had with the level. I was so stumped I literally thought I had broken the game so I reset the entire save file and did everything over again. I can't remember if I figured it out on my own or if I had to look up the answer, probably the former rather than the latter because this was way before it was a common thing to use Google. All the family computer did back then was pinball and minesweeper.
So frustrating, but so satisfying to complete!
I will never forget about that key because i discovered it my first time by complete mistake. I lept off the platfom into the water by mistake and got stuck under the block so when i slowly swam out from under it i saw there wasn't spikes at that one spot. i put on the boots and found that path. i looked like the coolest kid ever when talking to my friends and going over to their houses and helping them get that key. i had more issues in the shadow temple then i did water tbh.
I only heard the first 30 seconds of the video before coming to conclusion that it was "that room"
As a kid the water temple was a challenge for me big time. But now it's a piece of cake.
Thanks for showing me this lol. I was stuck and I was trying these different tricks to get into the eye switch room.
I miss that key every time I play the game. I've played through it probably a dozen times and always forget about that room until I need to get across to the boss room and spend a few hours running in circles.
The funny thing is that isn't even the key that gave us problems as a kid. Somehow we accidentally sequence broke the game and got to a door you're not supposed to get to until after you get the long shot meaning that when we went to get the dungeon item later we were a key short.
The other clue would be when you get the compass, it would tell you something is in that area. Some people just aren’t very smart.
THIS ISNT EVEN THE KEY IM MISSING
Same
I would always make it to the shadow Link locked door and forget a missing key.
I got stuck on water temple for about 3 years as a kid. I eventually realized I had to explore every nook and cranny at every water flow level. Exact same situation.
I searched for a walkthrough and found this video with the answer I was looking for.
Love the accurately cited quote at the beginning 😂😂😂
I've always loved the water temple because I'm the kind of weirdo who doesn't mind being stuck and having to backtrack. Now it's pretty trivial, but in the past it was always the one temple where I would get stuck because each time I had forgotten THAT passage in the center pillar room.
I thank my lucky stars my dad let me buy that strategy guide on that trip to Best Buy on a Saturday night, otherwise I probably would have been stuck too. Even with a book that told you exactly how to get through, the Water Temple was still an enormous pain.
Honestly, This is the 6th dungeon of the game, and 3 of the previous 5 have asked you to think about the dungeon vertically. You should be checking up and down and not purely laterally.
Boots and Lullaby kill the pacing of the dungeon but they arent actually strikes against its design and a level
I remember as a kid beating the water temple first go without much trouble I found that room almost instantly tbh I find it odd that people have such trouble with this temple
So that's the room that people tried to argue with me, that they're softlocked.
It's funny cause, the fact there is a platform that floats up, instantly made me want to try to go under it. So as a kid, I didn't have any issues here, although the Forest Temple tripped me up and I quit playing for months because of it.
Yeah its very confusing at first but as soon as you get the map and compass its not that hard to beat as long as you don't miss the hidden room of course.
I just mapped the entire water temple by hand and systematically searched for the missing key.... and still didn't find that room. I feel no guilt that this video solved the last key for me.
When i was a kid i was always wondering where the key was and walking through a temple a few times i realized the the platform wasn’t in there anymore and figured the key was there but thats what i like about this dungeon it made me think
As soon as I saw the platform float up I noticed the hole leading to the "secret" room.
As a kid, forgetting that key led to a few frustrating moment with that temple until I seared into my brain to remember that hole.
Even after all these years of not playing Ocarina, its like instinct to look there.
I do remember getting stuck here at some point, but not for long.
If I get stuck I try to systematically brute force a puzzle and in this case that would mean trying to explore all the rooms at all water levels to see what changed. Honestly it doesn't take that long since a lot of sections are completely blocked off and other sections are not affected by the water in the central room.
I agree this is not an ideal way of solving a puzzle, but if you are stuck in any kind of puzzle it should be something to at least consider, how much time would it take to try every possibility. Sometimes that time is shorter than thinking about it
I managed to have one extra key at the end because I never unlocked one of the doors in the second water level room where you play Zelda's lullaby. Just kept saving, resetting and going from start of temple when I raised it to that point.
The song of time block behind the chest with the longshot was also made more conspicuous in the 3ds remake. In the n64 game, it was level with the ground.
Now I need flowcharts of every single dungeon on the franchise
This video literally just saved my oot playthrough lol.. I've beat this game before at least twice and still got stuck here..
That bloody key was one I always overlooked and forgot about. I knew it was there, but I always just spaced it.
Thanks for making me feel like a child genius for finding that hole
Yup , I missed this room when I was 7 years old , I was frustrated , I even thought the same thing that I had unfortunately opened the wrong doors with my keys . Luckily my friend in elementary school told me about the room and he was right , I was able to finish the game smooth sailing after finding that key . I’ll never forget how many hours I’ve spent circling that dungeon trying to find the one key I needed.
The water temple is always the one where I forget something. Usually a key and have to backtrack and look everywhere. If you do it right you can pretty much go through it only changing the water lvl once on each floor
I made that mistake my first go around but once you calm down retrace your steps to see if there's something you missed you see a giant gaping hole when you walk through that door
Im happy I didn’t have a hard time finding that key, but when I did, I instantly knew that this key is one of the main reasons why people hate the water temple, and that feeling of instantly understanding this phenomenon has permanently etched in my brain the memory of how to get inside the key’s room. It’s like a safeguard mechanism for an eventual situation when I have to play the game again, or help someone stuck. Hahaha
This just saved my playthrough thank you!!
Probably this has already been said in the comments but that cutscene is not the only clue you get. Outside of the central pillar room are other floating cubes that go up and down with the water level so haven one inside the central room is a clue that something might be under that cube.
I have a very vivid memory of this happening to me like 10 years ago. I rectified it by changing the water level and farore's wind-ing to the entrance before jumping back to the centre. Can't remember the full route but I finished the water temple with a key locked behind a locked door.
Yeah…it took me MONTHS of tedious exploration of the temple to find the secret room. Once I found the room, I was like “ohhhh duh!”
I remember being stuck in the Fire Temple for years. I needed one more small key to progress but for the life of me couldn't find it. Until my brother was messing around and decided to use the megaton hammer on one of the pillars in the main entrance... After 10 years finally being able to continue the game feels amazing
Man you're not kidding when you say that if it wasn't for that one key it would be manageable once I found that one pathway I was able to complete the dungeon. before I found it I had thought I soft locked myself from completing it
Feelling happy knowing I've never had any problem w this temple as a child.
One of my favorite things in games is exploring hidden areas and seeing if something unassuming that I did triggered something that may have opened another path. So for me, even as a kid, when I saw that platform raise, my first thought was to explore underneath it. Maybe they hid a rupee, or heart, or maybe even a piece of heart underneath it. So I naturally explored to find out. Glad I did, because I can totally understand people getting lost due to it.
So while I understand that specific key being cryptic I have also run into people stuck because they missed the one behind the bombable wall that you float up passed after meeting Ruto if your camera is moved you can miss the clue entirely.
Thank god I watched this video, today I entered the water temple first time playing oot.
when i was a kid i had no problem with the water temple, in ocarina of time, but master quest was the one in charge to make me suffer