Edit: Just made some new discoveries with Bobby. Will be sharing some in an upcoming video :) My playlist of more Paper Mario: The Origami King videos: th-cam.com/play/PLhtPEroyK1P5Ay6ntFJ_l8O4pWV4ZTHhy.html I tweet behind the scenes updates and interesting discoveries that I come across: twitter.com/ZX_Many I do a lot of experimentation like this during my livestreams, you can follow me here for my livestreams: www.twitch.tv/zxmany Make sure to click subscribe to be notified of new videos if you enjoyed this!! th-cam.com/channels/fVPkqHdqDon3OfKn6Qm1kA.html If you really love this content and you'd like to support me in being able to continue to create content, you can become a Patron and get special perks: www.patreon.com/ZXMany
A few days ago Ceave released a video pointing to evidence suggesting Nintendo has banned progression and reward systems from their games, which may be why Metroid Prime 4 seems to be in development hell.
About Olivia’s hints that the game tracks: The very first time you use olivia’s hint, she’ll say this is my first hint! Thing is this can happen at any point in the game as long it’s your first time asking her for a hint. So that feature probably retrieves it’s data from that counter.
That's a really good point! There are a few things in the game like this where it keeps track of if it's the first time you've done something Normally, once you leave the Earth Vellumental temple after completing it, Olivia will suggest that you try jumping on the goombas to take them out in a single hit. But if you already have 70 HP (by hacking) when you enter Picnic Road for the first time, Olivia will give you this suggestion right away! For some of these values, booleans are used, so I'm surprised that sometimes integers are used for these other values - it makes me think that the value might be also used in some other way, but who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Other thing to note: If you talk to Olivia on Diamond Island after you beat it, she will say "Mario, you have a lot of Power, Courage and Wisdom! But I guess that's a secret to nobody.". That being a reference to the iconic line from the Legend of Zelda series "It's a secret to everybody".
I wish Bobby had been with Mario and Olivia until the end. Especially after Bobby’s comment after the blue streamer is destroyed with him and Olivia saying they where a team. He shouldn’t have died....
On one hand, I disagree since I liked his story arc. On the other hand, I agree because it's very inconsistent with the fact that Bombette and Admiral Bobbery could explode without dying.
@@dracos0024 along with Bombette and her friend even commenting exploding is like a hand shake to Bob-ombs. But my head cannon is that Bobby died because it wasn’t his fuse it was his friend’s
@@awesomeocelot7475 But that wouldn't explain the other Bob-ombs that fought Gooper Blooper dying, though. On an unrelated note, the whole "Bob-ombs die when they explode thing" makes the scene later in the game where you shoot Bob-ombs at Olly's paper planes kinda morbid.
One of the sombrero guy companion's sprites looked like he was tripping, sorta similar to bobby's miss animation. maybe they wanted him to be an attacker but they didn't program it fully before it was scrapped? also i think the battle exp would work like you would get an ammount based on the enemies, if the puzzle is completed and if it was a wave battle. i doubt the no damage bonus would function the same for coins. maybe there could have been bonuses exclusive to the exp?
That's really interesting! I've looked through the sprites for the sombrero guy, and he has some that aren't used (other characters also have unused sprites). Sombrero Guy has a throwing his hat animation if I remember correctly, and I don't think he does that anywhere in the game normally
Things must seem pretty strange to Bobby though: we're in this cold, icy cave, we're with Olivia, and suddenly, she disappears. I don't know why his first thought is to go to a cruise ship, but hey, I'd be confused in that situation too!
There's also a Zelda refrence when Olivia picks up Luigi's hat and she says *He's met with a bad fate*. That's refrencing the Happy Mask Salesman quote from Majora's Mask. Which is "You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?"
Yeah, it's really interesting how there is a line in the save data called "battle_win_exP", I wonder if it was planned for something or if it does anything
@@fattytan1377 They did, Ceave did some investigation and found (though not confirmed) that Nintendo has banned progression and reward systems, which is why you never get any more abilities after the tutorial in recent Nintendo games, and why Super Mario Odyssey has 380 more moons than are needed to unlock the Darker Side and the potential to get as many as you want. It's also probably the reason why only one sidequest in Breath of the Wild outside Kakariko Village and Gerudo Town gives any tangible reward beyond vendor trash (the one that allows you to get diamonds easier)
Zelda fan here! Did you also notice some musical similarities in this game to the Zelda games? Like the Diamond Island theme having a part that sounds like Fi's theme, the first Sweetpaper Valley theme sounding like Hidden Village, etc.
That's really cool! The Hidden Village and Sweetpaper Valley both have that nice classic western sound to it with the whistling :) Thanks for the comment!
We can do that! I'd love to see how they would get along. We can see what would happen, but for most parts of the game, it would just look like Bobby is following us, but nobody will interact with him unfortunately :(
@@papernoah4701 The partners that normally appear in battles still appear in battles and fight, and I'm pretty sure the same thing happens with Bobby. I'll have to do some more testing :)
i just wanna say that be careful cause bobby could explode from happiness of being alive (actually i would like seeing bobby on shangri spa chilling out)
Ah, I hadn't considered looking into translations of the game yet! Some people in comments have pointed out that some of the puns in other languages have similar meanings/ are expressions in other languages
That's really funny! Someone mentioned that it could be because "navi" is short for "navigator", and maybe that's the origin of the name Navi in Zelda games
Okay, so in tanabe's paper mario trilogy the player actually gets stronger the more hearts upgrades that you get? I knew there was a reason why the weaker enemy went down before we even went to battle. So props to him for that kind of process. But now I'm wondering why he could do that in a paper mario RPG. It's not impossible to do so right?
Hmm, I know in the original Paper Mario, there's a badge that lets Mario defeat weaker enemies without entering a battle It's also interesting that there might be a limit in The Origami King on which enemies you can defeat without entering a battle: I tried first-striking some of the enemies at the end of the game, and even with 999 HP, I still entered battles
So that's why the save box appears. I kept dying at that boss. Also a new video idea: what is the limit of the game getting easier? Just thought of it now.
Yeah, I was surprised when I saw it pop up! How easy a part of the game becomes depends on what part of the game it is: some things will only become easier once, other things gradually become easier (like the tiles that light up when you enter the Fire Vellumental temple, they'll start to glow for longer, and then they eventually don't turn off)
Yes,I am a huge Zelda fan! And now I can’t help but think of,instead of pressing X to call out Olivia,she just pops out at random times and say”Hey Mario!listen!”
#1 is cool, but it's not like it's such a secret. The Koopa at the Overlook docks tells you outright that the more you fish, the larger the fish you can catch.
I feel like the battle XP system may have been an alternative to the optional Max-Up hearts in the game, or maybe they gave seperate Pow-Up tokens when you collected enough
Take a shot every time you hear "Paper Mario: The Origami King" For real tho, this is a really interesting video, i love looking at the code in games!!
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the comment! Yeah, it's really fun to look at what's in games and secrets in it that most people don't see :) It also makes it really cool to see what's theoretically possible in a game
The "exp" in the files could either be something they thought of at first but then scrapped the idea for whatever reason, maybe restricted by some higher ups. Or it could've been a last minute addition (possibly in response to AlphaDream going bankrupt, meaning no more Mario RPG games) but they didn't have enough time to implement it. If the latter is true, I wonder if they would've had enough time if this whole situation didn't exist...
Thank you for the comment! I've really enjoyed Stryder7x's content and he was a big inspiration for me to get into glitch hunting/ hacking games :) We've got some Origami King content on this channel, and we're slowly adding bits of other games, I love testing what's possible in games, whether we hack a game or play it normally!
@@DUCK.aka.Red.on.Twitter I'll be making some videos about The Origami King, some about Paper Mario, and some videos about other games as well :) I have some challenges in mind and I also want to share interesting findings as I explore the game What kind of videos are you most interested in?
I think it's a really nice finished product :) We haven't found any major glitch exploits, and one game-breaking bug in Shangri Spa has been patched already
@@augustbornone Ah, I understand now! Yeah, I really wonder what happened with exp. There's another really interesting thing that someone on the Paper Mario subreddit posted a while ago, Origami Peach has a bunch of animations that look like attacking animations, so maybe she was planned to be a boss fight at some point!
You are amazing. My son and I have followed almost every paper Mario The Oragmi King video related to editing and fun ;) on Yuzu and have enjoyed every second. I spent two days saving in front of where Mario becomes Star Paper Mario for about 15-30 seconds and I could not for the life of me find something consistent in the save file during those moments to activate that sprite/power in the overworld at all times :(. I'm not sure if this is not possible or just a lack of my eyes and attempts. Always something I have been curious about.. Just stopping by again to say that you're one of the only channels I'm comfortable letting my son watch on TH-cam by himeself and I send good vibes your way. I also love your content! Best, -Alec
I've haven't been watching much of ur videos, I'm sorry about that,but just CONGRATULATIONS on hitting 2k subs this quickly omg ur one of my favorite youtubers already I think ur gonna have a good career later on 💝💝💝💝💝
Just a thought try hacking super mario galaxy maybe see if there are any secret codes in that game also it would be nice if you did same with Bowsers fury when its out as its a brand new game
That's an amazing idea that I can imagine would be really hilarious! I'll test it for sure! I think this will happen: the game will likely crash because the game will try to load Bobby's dialogue, but Bobby isn't present as a partner. That's usually what happens if the game tries to load dialogue from a partner that you don't have with you
Looking forward to the first Bobby% run: play the game normally, but once you reach Sandpaper Valley change your spawn location into the Breezy Tunnel and continue from as if you just consoled Olivia.
I'll have to do some experimenting with it, I know it's one that can really frustrate speedrunners! I've heard people say you can tell what you should do by looking at the hand, but I wonder if there's anything else useful that we can extract for speedrunners
@@maxmoser3259 Yeah, exactly! Every speedrunner I've spoken with said that the handaconda's sign doesn't always coincide with what it's going to choose in rock paper scissors and the choice is based on RNG!
idea: try editing your position, to a boss battle and beat it then, destroy the ribbon, will it just destroy that one or will it have the rest destroyed?
That's a really great idea, I'll test that out! I was testing out if we can skip to Olly right from the start of the game, and I was surprised to see that the vellumentals you need in the fight still work!
I've noticed that there are several sound files in the game that appear to be duplicates of each other. Is there a way to tell which one is actually used in-game?
Maybe Bobby was the first partner developed, and there’s some old unused code triggering from an older partner system they worked on. Then they redid the partner system to make it dynamic and easier to convert any NPC into a partner, but remnants of the old system remain
I have something similar planned for the near future! If I come across some cool resources I'll share those too :) Thanks for leaving a comment and sharing your interest!
Yeah, there's a lot of cool things that you normally wouldn't see when playing the game, it's really fun to explore this kind of stuff! Hope you enjoyed it!
I accidentally let that slip in this video, there will be something about that in a future video :) Great observation! Very few people commented about that
This comment gave me a good laugh, I appreciate you noticing that, thank you! Hope you enjoy the video :) I try to add Easter Eggs like that in some videos, I think they're fun!
It's a little strange, there are three Bob-omb folders. How far into the game have you gotten so far? I can explain it some more, but I don't want to give away things from later in the game if you haven't gotten there yet
@@thescarredsinner895 There are a lot of unused animations in the game's files: for similar characters (like Bobby and regular Bob-ombs), there's a lot of overlap. It's probably really simple to just copy over the same sprites + a fuse in case they would've been used somewhere in the game. The regular Bob-ombs around Bowser's ship have some of those animations used
I wonder why they would put the extra effort in to make bobby that complicated. Isnt the goal of efficient coding to make everything kind of consistent? There is no reason for bobby to not just work like every other partner
I haven't looked into the scripting yet, so I can't be 100% certain, but I have a few speculations: I actually just wrote up a long explanation of why I think this is happening, but then I tried something different and now Bobby works 😂 I have to do some more testing with this. I was thinking at first that it's because Bobby is scripted to be a partner in some parts of the game but not others, but it's because there are different folders for Bobby (mostly Bobby sprites, regular Bob-ombs with some Bobby sprites, and Bobby's ghost have 3 different names)
Is there a particular reason you often recite the whole name of the game (or at least say "in the Origami King") when gameplay of OKing is being shown anyway and the title of the video says what it is anyway?
That's a really great question, and yes, there are a few reasons for it! I'm guessing the auto-generated CC might play a role in SEO, and if that's true, then that's a huge reason to do it from a content creator's perspective, and there are other reasons for doing it in the video itself :) Hope you enjoyed the video, have a great day! :D
The Bobby ghost is a different colour, but if you put in the name of Bobby from the Pera folder into party_information, I wasn't able to get ghost Bobby as a follower unfortunately, just regular Bobby
I hate to burst the Zelda reference but ‘navi’ is actually not a Zelda reference. A bunch of Nintendo games tend to use ‘navi’ as an internal name for guidance related things (Pikmin and Pikmin 2 come to mind), as its technically not unique to Zelda, but rather just short for Navigation or Navigator.
Yeah, that's right! Do you think that's where the origin of Navi's name in the Zelda games comes from? It would make sense if Navi has traditionally been used in games because it's short for "navigator," but what's more interesting is if this is where Navi's name comes from in the Zelda games!
(Timestamp - 1:51) I think that message from Bobby shows even without hacking, mods, edits, etc., because I somehow remember seeing that when I was trying to have Mario chat with Bobby in while on my way to The Princess Peach.
Yeah, exactly! That text seems to come up whenever you're: (1) with Bobby and (2) not with Olivia and (3) not at the Princess Peach cruise ship and maybe (4) some value for having been to the ship hasn't been flagged as "true" in the game's memory yet
I don't know if 2147m is the highest number that can be used, I'll test that out! A negative escape rate doesn't let you run away from bosses also :( If you put in a very high value, the value either ends up getting stuck, or getting stuck at a negative value
(8:22) Another possibility I thought of is that Nintendo likely had enough foresight to guess that players would try to bring Bobby back after a certain moment of the game (that I won’t spoil here).
Hey can you make video about “can you win against snift without paying 1000coin?”you know that snift in desert city that scam u and trap luigi .cuz i spend to much time on it and I couldn’t do it.
Thanks for the comment! I saw something in the data00 file about that part of the game when I was scrolling through it the other day. I'll either make a video if there's anything interesting or a Twitter post if it's just a quick finding :) I think the way it normally works is that once you pay the Snifit the first time, they start snickering after that. I'm not sure if you can get lucky before paying at least once
Xuman has a guide on GameBanana called "Modding Guide: How To Start Modding Paper Mario" that is good, I might make a video on how to do these things in the near future :)
A lot of them, yeah, but you do need the 1000-fold-arms to beat some of the bosses: you can't the Fire Vellumental or Rubber Bands without the 1000-fold-arm attack, and there might be others I can't think of off the top of my head. We did a video investigating if you can beat the fire vellumental without attacking it where we look at this if you're interested :)
![I added a New Partner/ Story to Paper Mario: The Origami King [more Bobby the Bob-omb]](/img/n.gif)
Edit: Just made some new discoveries with Bobby. Will be sharing some in an upcoming video :)
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@ZXMany Ahhh... Sooo THAT’S how the Bobby Mod Partner/Story ACTUALLY works. Also, that Olivia’s A.I is SUPER SMART, OBEDIENT & FLEXIBLE.
Lol n
Hey somebody commented me on a comment and I want to repost my idea of Bobby being on Shangri Spa
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Fans: We want EXP in Paper Mario again!
Nintendo: Fishing Leveling take it or leave it
😂 Oh my goodness, that's amazing!
Good enough
Man, this fits so well... 🤣
Four-Twenty-Four Jake It’s made by Intelligent Systems, says someone. Nintendo restricts what the game can have, says I.
A few days ago Ceave released a video pointing to evidence suggesting Nintendo has banned progression and reward systems from their games, which may be why Metroid Prime 4 seems to be in development hell.
About Olivia’s hints that the game tracks: The very first time you use olivia’s hint, she’ll say this is my first hint! Thing is this can happen at any point in the game as long it’s your first time asking her for a hint. So that feature probably retrieves it’s data from that counter.
That's a really good point! There are a few things in the game like this where it keeps track of if it's the first time you've done something
Normally, once you leave the Earth Vellumental temple after completing it, Olivia will suggest that you try jumping on the goombas to take them out in a single hit. But if you already have 70 HP (by hacking) when you enter Picnic Road for the first time, Olivia will give you this suggestion right away!
For some of these values, booleans are used, so I'm surprised that sometimes integers are used for these other values - it makes me think that the value might be also used in some other way, but who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Wait can you give this guy a shout out?
Other thing to note: If you talk to Olivia on Diamond Island after you beat it, she will say "Mario, you have a lot of Power, Courage and Wisdom! But I guess that's a secret to nobody.". That being a reference to the iconic line from the Legend of Zelda series "It's a secret to everybody".
Wow, I didn't know that! I love little details like these and the Zelda dev code jokes in the video!
I experienced this myself. I'm constantly pressing (X) to see what she'll say.
There is also this one Toad climbing a vertical rock face in Autumn Mountain, and his dialogue seems to poke fun at BOTW and Link's stamina
Fans: Hahaha there's so many zelda references!
Nintendo: *but there are more!*
😂 Exactly!! Deku seeds and Navi were in this game!
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I wish Bobby had been with Mario and Olivia until the end. Especially after Bobby’s comment after the blue streamer is destroyed with him and Olivia saying they where a team. He shouldn’t have died....
On one hand, I disagree since I liked his story arc. On the other hand, I agree because it's very inconsistent with the fact that Bombette and Admiral Bobbery could explode without dying.
@@dracos0024 along with Bombette and her friend even commenting exploding is like a hand shake to Bob-ombs. But my head cannon is that Bobby died because it wasn’t his fuse it was his friend’s
@@awesomeocelot7475 But that wouldn't explain the other Bob-ombs that fought Gooper Blooper dying, though.
On an unrelated note, the whole "Bob-ombs die when they explode thing" makes the scene later in the game where you shoot Bob-ombs at Olly's paper planes kinda morbid.
@@dracos0024 I just figured Paper Macho Gooper Blooper killed them or something?
One of the sombrero guy companion's sprites looked like he was tripping, sorta similar to bobby's miss animation. maybe they wanted him to be an attacker but they didn't program it fully before it was scrapped?
also i think the battle exp would work like you would get an ammount based on the enemies, if the puzzle is completed and if it was a wave battle. i doubt the no damage bonus would function the same for coins. maybe there could have been bonuses exclusive to the exp?
That's really interesting! I've looked through the sprites for the sombrero guy, and he has some that aren't used (other characters also have unused sprites). Sombrero Guy has a throwing his hat animation if I remember correctly, and I don't think he does that anywhere in the game normally
Very disrespectful of Bobby to CONSTANTLY want to go on a cruise and leave Olivia out of it :(
Things must seem pretty strange to Bobby though: we're in this cold, icy cave, we're with Olivia, and suddenly, she disappears. I don't know why his first thought is to go to a cruise ship, but hey, I'd be confused in that situation too!
@@ZXMany Fair enough, the poor guy's been through quite a bit of trauma in his past as well, perhaps we should give him a bit of a break xD
@@BronzeSpaceComet Exactly my thoughts!
I love these types of hacking in the code videos! This is amazing.
Thanks so much for the comment! Glad you enjoy it :) More to come in the future!
@Desmond where is your dad did he get murdered?
As I already said on reddit, "Navi" stands for navigator and is commonly used in JRPGs. But very nice video anyway :)
That's really cool, thanks again! Glad you enjoyed the video :D
The button
Bobby is brought back to life *BUT* There will be no more Paper Mario Games
"The hardest sacrifices require the strongest of wills"
Oh boy, what would you choose?
ZXMany *Life Shroom in hand* I wouldn’t press the button.
I would not press button
Bobby should’ve eaten a 1 up mushroom
8:03 bobby: WHERE THE HELL YOU GO
My thoughts exactly when that happened to me!
That crash at the end of the vid was the "icing on the cake".
Yes! 😂 Thanks so much for watching the video, hope you enjoyed it!
@@ZXMany Trust me, I did
@@oimenamesrick Awesome, thanks so much for checking it out!
There's also a Zelda refrence when Olivia picks up Luigi's hat and she says *He's met with a bad fate*. That's refrencing the Happy Mask Salesman quote from Majora's Mask. Which is "You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?"
Oh wow, I didn't even notice that one! And Majora's Mask was an absolute gem! There are soooo many video game references in The Origami King!
I almost thought the exp system was coming back to Origami king lmaooo
Yeah, it's really interesting how there is a line in the save data called "battle_win_exP", I wonder if it was planned for something or if it does anything
@@ZXMany I guess intelligent systems got restricted by Nintendo
@@fattytan1377 They did, Ceave did some investigation and found (though not confirmed) that Nintendo has banned progression and reward systems, which is why you never get any more abilities after the tutorial in recent Nintendo games, and why Super Mario Odyssey has 380 more moons than are needed to unlock the Darker Side and the potential to get as many as you want. It's also probably the reason why only one sidequest in Breath of the Wild outside Kakariko Village and Gerudo Town gives any tangible reward beyond vendor trash (the one that allows you to get diamonds easier)
Zelda fan here! Did you also notice some musical similarities in this game to the Zelda games? Like the Diamond Island theme having a part that sounds like Fi's theme, the first Sweetpaper Valley theme sounding like Hidden Village, etc.
That's really cool! The Hidden Village and Sweetpaper Valley both have that nice classic western sound to it with the whistling :) Thanks for the comment!
You should try to max up your health and fall in the hole that Luigi falls before the castle turns into the origami castle
That's a great idea! I think I've tested this before, and if I remember correctly Mario still just gets a game over normally
Bobby meets Professor Toad please!
We can do that! I'd love to see how they would get along. We can see what would happen, but for most parts of the game, it would just look like Bobby is following us, but nobody will interact with him unfortunately :(
Okay!
Does Bobby still fight in battle though?
@@papernoah4701 The partners that normally appear in battles still appear in battles and fight, and I'm pretty sure the same thing happens with Bobby. I'll have to do some more testing :)
i just wanna say that be careful cause bobby could explode from happiness of being alive (actually i would like seeing bobby on shangri spa chilling out)
That's a really cool idea! Thanks for the comment :)
Could we collect Bobby's pieces and throw them into the healing spring? :'(
Haha Bobby funny name!!!
ZXMany: 1:35
Me: Wait WHAT! So actually Olivia was NAVI! I don't believe it.
Olivia: HEY LISTEN! HEY LISTEN!
Navi: HEY LISTEN! HEY LISTEN!
Mario: Mamma Mia!
Link: *Angry Noises*
Me: 🤯 I believe that 20% was. 😅
Yeah! Someone on Reddit pointed out that "Navi" can be short for "navigator" and that "navi" is used for a lot of characters like this!
And it would make sense if this is the origin of Navi's name too!
I think that in Japan Grand Sappy is referred as the deku tree or something of that similar manner
Ah, I hadn't considered looking into translations of the game yet! Some people in comments have pointed out that some of the puns in other languages have similar meanings/ are expressions in other languages
I think I heard somewhere that it's a running gag that the code for fairy like partners in nintendo tend to be called navi.
That's really funny! Someone mentioned that it could be because "navi" is short for "navigator", and maybe that's the origin of the name Navi in Zelda games
Could be! It's a nice easter egg nonetheless.
Okay, so in tanabe's paper mario trilogy the player actually gets stronger the more hearts upgrades that you get? I knew there was a reason why the weaker enemy went down before we even went to battle. So props to him for that kind of process. But now I'm wondering why he could do that in a paper mario RPG. It's not impossible to do so right?
Hmm, I know in the original Paper Mario, there's a badge that lets Mario defeat weaker enemies without entering a battle
It's also interesting that there might be a limit in The Origami King on which enemies you can defeat without entering a battle: I tried first-striking some of the enemies at the end of the game, and even with 999 HP, I still entered battles
So that's why the save box appears. I kept dying at that boss.
Also a new video idea: what is the limit of the game getting easier? Just thought of it now.
Yeah, I was surprised when I saw it pop up! How easy a part of the game becomes depends on what part of the game it is: some things will only become easier once, other things gradually become easier (like the tiles that light up when you enter the Fire Vellumental temple, they'll start to glow for longer, and then they eventually don't turn off)
Yes,I am a huge Zelda fan!
And now I can’t help but think of,instead of pressing X to call out Olivia,she just pops out at random times and say”Hey Mario!listen!”
Oh my god Olivia being Navi In the code makes so much sense, I finally understood why people hated Navi and Fi after dealing with her
I love it! 😂 Someone told me that "navi" could be short for "navigator" and that that might be the origin of Navi's name
Hole punch was incharge of the escape rate they told him to punch the escape if he flees
Lol nice touch getting bowser to say subscribe :)
Glad you noticed it, thank you! I thought that would be funny for the people who saw that :)
ZXMany yea
#1 is cool, but it's not like it's such a secret. The Koopa at the Overlook docks tells you outright that the more you fish, the larger the fish you can catch.
Great point! Yeah, it's funny that the game actually keeps track of it as an exp value
I feel like the battle XP system may have been an alternative to the optional Max-Up hearts in the game, or maybe they gave seperate Pow-Up tokens when you collected enough
the EXP variable could be a leftover of the paint leveling from color splash
That's a really good point! Thanks for the comment :)
Take a shot every time you hear "Paper Mario: The Origami King"
For real tho, this is a really interesting video, i love looking at the code in games!!
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the comment! Yeah, it's really fun to look at what's in games and secrets in it that most people don't see :) It also makes it really cool to see what's theoretically possible in a game
Can you try walking or jumping in water?
That's a really cool idea, I think I'll share that in an upcoming video after doing some experimenting with that :)
Plz make a vid on Bobby exploring the world! Plz
Thanks so much for the comment! We might see something like this in the very near future!
I Like How At 3:17 You Changed Bowsers Text Boxes
I like that you noticed that! Thanks for the comment :)
I didn't know all this stuff xD
Thank you ^^
You're welcome! Thanks so much for the comment and checking out the video! Glad you enjoyed it :)
I remember when this guy was at 37 subs. And now look at him. 2000 subs, well deserved
Thanks so much, really appreciate that! Thanks for being here since the beginning :D
Great video mate
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it :)
The "exp" in the files could either be something they thought of at first but then scrapped the idea for whatever reason, maybe restricted by some higher ups. Or it could've been a last minute addition (possibly in response to AlphaDream going bankrupt, meaning no more Mario RPG games) but they didn't have enough time to implement it. If the latter is true, I wonder if they would've had enough time if this whole situation didn't exist...
Interesting ideas! Thank you for the comment :)
Your vids are the best dude
Thanks so much for the comment, really glad you're enjoying them!
Bobby's strange coding in the origami king can be a good fanfiction if you ask me lol.
Yeah! I've discovered some more workarounds and solutions to problems that I've had before, but some things are still weird
I love what bowser says lmao
Ayyy, you're the first person to notice it and comment, very nice! Thanks so much for checking out the video, appreciate it :D
I love the face mario makes at 2:22
Excellent video! Thanks for uploading!
So, what I'm getting is, you're the Stryder7x of Origami King?
Sweet.
Thank you for the comment! I've really enjoyed Stryder7x's content and he was a big inspiration for me to get into glitch hunting/ hacking games :)
We've got some Origami King content on this channel, and we're slowly adding bits of other games, I love testing what's possible in games, whether we hack a game or play it normally!
1:16 Ah, threw in some Zelda jokes in the code, eh Intelligent Systems? Lol.
What you will be uploading content later of this paper mario?
Sorry, are you asking about Paper Mario: The Origami King, or other Paper Mario games?
@@ZXMany in origami king, later of put content of it what will be the way that this channel goes?
@@DUCK.aka.Red.on.Twitter I'll be making some videos about The Origami King, some about Paper Mario, and some videos about other games as well :)
I have some challenges in mind and I also want to share interesting findings as I explore the game
What kind of videos are you most interested in?
@@ZXMany honestly idk, the industry of the videogame it's so big that it's really hard to decide, and more if your dog it's licking you
Maybe you can do a community voting of some games and the winner it's picked
8:03 Bobby be like: Why we are still here?, just to suffer
You know seeing all of these secrites makes me wonder.
Was Paper Mario: The Origami King rush?
I think it's a really nice finished product :) We haven't found any major glitch exploits, and one game-breaking bug in Shangri Spa has been patched already
@@ZXMany I'm just saying that because of the amount of things that was cut Exp, character moments an ect.
@@augustbornone Ah, I understand now! Yeah, I really wonder what happened with exp. There's another really interesting thing that someone on the Paper Mario subreddit posted a while ago, Origami Peach has a bunch of animations that look like attacking animations, so maybe she was planned to be a boss fight at some point!
@@ZXMany That would be cool, kind of the first stage of the Shadow Queen boss from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door.
You are amazing. My son and I have followed almost every paper Mario The Oragmi King video related to editing and fun ;) on Yuzu and have enjoyed every second.
I spent two days saving in front of where Mario becomes Star Paper Mario for about 15-30 seconds and I could not for the life of me find something consistent in the save file during those moments to activate that sprite/power in the overworld at all times :(. I'm not sure if this is not possible or just a lack of my eyes and attempts. Always something I have been curious about..
Just stopping by again to say that you're one of the only channels I'm comfortable letting my son watch on TH-cam by himeself and I send good vibes your way. I also love your content!
Best,
-Alec
I've haven't been watching much of ur videos, I'm sorry about that,but just CONGRATULATIONS on hitting 2k subs this quickly omg ur one of my favorite youtubers already I think ur gonna have a good career later on 💝💝💝💝💝
Thanks so much, I really appreciate that! Hope you're enjoying the videos :)
Just a thought try hacking super mario galaxy maybe see if there are any secret codes in that game also it would be nice if you did same with Bowsers fury when its out as its a brand new game
Without Max Up hearts we wouldn’t have Love Toad
That's true! Or at least he wouldn't have told us where to find hearts
Ok but can you get Goompa outside of the Prologue
Love the reference!
Can you clone a partner other than Bobby,go to his death cutscene,and kill the cloned partner
instead of Bobby?
That's an amazing idea that I can imagine would be really hilarious! I'll test it for sure! I think this will happen: the game will likely crash because the game will try to load Bobby's dialogue, but Bobby isn't present as a partner. That's usually what happens if the game tries to load dialogue from a partner that you don't have with you
#2 I always got angry at the system because of the random times I could flee and sometimes I could not. Thanks for addressing the problem.
Dude im so happy you have more subs than last time i checked in on your channel. You definitely deserve them!
Thanks so much, really appreciate that! Hope you're enjoying the videos :)
2k subs good job
Thanks so much! Really glad to have you here with us :)
Love the content!
Thanks so much for the comment! Really glad you're loving the content :D
3:19 Yes I noticed it. Subscribed!
Thanks so much! Glad you noticed it, really appreciate you subscribing! I thought that was a fun little Easter Egg to add to the video :D
Looking forward to the first Bobby% run: play the game normally, but once you reach Sandpaper Valley change your spawn location into the Breezy Tunnel and continue from as if you just consoled Olivia.
Can we look at the Handaconda code to see if it's random or there's some insane obtuse way to tell what you're supposed to use?
I'll have to do some experimenting with it, I know it's one that can really frustrate speedrunners! I've heard people say you can tell what you should do by looking at the hand, but I wonder if there's anything else useful that we can extract for speedrunners
@@ZXMany from what i have seen it's sometimes random sometimes not
@@maxmoser3259 Yeah, exactly! Every speedrunner I've spoken with said that the handaconda's sign doesn't always coincide with what it's going to choose in rock paper scissors and the choice is based on RNG!
idea: try editing your position, to a boss battle and beat it then, destroy the ribbon, will it just destroy that one or will it have the rest destroyed?
That's a really great idea, I'll test that out! I was testing out if we can skip to Olly right from the start of the game, and I was surprised to see that the vellumentals you need in the fight still work!
@@ZXMany. nice.
Zelda jokes are so funny that I cannot stop laughing about it
I've noticed that there are several sound files in the game that appear to be duplicates of each other. Is there a way to tell which one is actually used in-game?
good job on 8000 subcriber!
Maybe Bobby was the first partner developed, and there’s some old unused code triggering from an older partner system they worked on. Then they redid the partner system to make it dynamic and easier to convert any NPC into a partner, but remnants of the old system remain
That's an interesting idea! Thanks for the comment :)
How do you access the game’s files? I want to mod the game and stuff…
Exp comming in the DLC :P
It would be interesting if exp came in the DLC, it would've been very funny that they didn't include it in the regular game at first
Sombrero shy guy is the best Paper Mario character.
It would be cool if he was a normal partner!
yoo some time could you showcase all the boss animations??
I have something similar planned for the near future! If I come across some cool resources I'll share those too :) Thanks for leaving a comment and sharing your interest!
@@ZXMany Awesome! I’ve been watching a bunch of your videos lately, thank you for the effort you put into them 🙏
@@highwaycavalier I really appreciate you noticing the effort, thanks so much! Really glad you're enjoying the videos, more to come soon :D
When you show king olly as the ice vellumental in the character folders, why isn’t he wearing clothes, like he is in the boss fight?
Whoa there are lots of stuff we don't really see
Yeah, there's a lot of cool things that you normally wouldn't see when playing the game, it's really fun to explore this kind of stuff! Hope you enjoyed it!
Where did you get access to the game's code?
3:19 bowser says:look this video subscribe and more hahaha
(Timestamp - 4:40) It looks like the HP was experimentally Max 1.
I accidentally let that slip in this video, there will be something about that in a future video :) Great observation! Very few people commented about that
i love how he asks you to subscribe very very subletly
This comment gave me a good laugh, I appreciate you noticing that, thank you! Hope you enjoy the video :) I try to add Easter Eggs like that in some videos, I think they're fun!
good edit i like that nice
wait why does a regular bom-omb have some of bobby's animations was he plan to have a fuse or something?
It's a little strange, there are three Bob-omb folders. How far into the game have you gotten so far? I can explain it some more, but I don't want to give away things from later in the game if you haven't gotten there yet
@@ZXMany I have finish the game but don't remeber any reguler bom-omb having some of bobby animations
@@thescarredsinner895 There are a lot of unused animations in the game's files: for similar characters (like Bobby and regular Bob-ombs), there's a lot of overlap. It's probably really simple to just copy over the same sprites + a fuse in case they would've been used somewhere in the game. The regular Bob-ombs around Bowser's ship have some of those animations used
I’ve been wondering what happens when the scissor boss uses its “final cut” move on Mario with 1000 because it deals 999 damage can Mario survive?
I actually have a video on that topic exactly :)
Here it is: th-cam.com/video/xB_khdm8o6g/w-d-xo.html
I wonder why they would put the extra effort in to make bobby that complicated. Isnt the goal of efficient coding to make everything kind of consistent? There is no reason for bobby to not just work like every other partner
I haven't looked into the scripting yet, so I can't be 100% certain, but I have a few speculations:
I actually just wrote up a long explanation of why I think this is happening, but then I tried something different and now Bobby works 😂
I have to do some more testing with this. I was thinking at first that it's because Bobby is scripted to be a partner in some parts of the game but not others, but it's because there are different folders for Bobby (mostly Bobby sprites, regular Bob-ombs with some Bobby sprites, and Bobby's ghost have 3 different names)
Is there a particular reason you often recite the whole name of the game (or at least say "in the Origami King") when gameplay of OKing is being shown anyway and the title of the video says what it is anyway?
That's a really great question, and yes, there are a few reasons for it! I'm guessing the auto-generated CC might play a role in SEO, and if that's true, then that's a huge reason to do it from a content creator's perspective, and there are other reasons for doing it in the video itself :) Hope you enjoyed the video, have a great day! :D
Is ghost bobby recoloured? As in can he follow you
The Bobby ghost is a different colour, but if you put in the name of Bobby from the Pera folder into party_information, I wasn't able to get ghost Bobby as a follower unfortunately, just regular Bobby
@@ZXMany rip
I hate to burst the Zelda reference but ‘navi’ is actually not a Zelda reference. A bunch of Nintendo games tend to use ‘navi’ as an internal name for guidance related things (Pikmin and Pikmin 2 come to mind), as its technically not unique to Zelda, but rather just short for Navigation or Navigator.
Yeah, that's right! Do you think that's where the origin of Navi's name in the Zelda games comes from? It would make sense if Navi has traditionally been used in games because it's short for "navigator," but what's more interesting is if this is where Navi's name comes from in the Zelda games!
As usual, Bob-ombs are always the oddballs...
How did you access the code?
not to be that guy
but Navi doesn't follow you around in "the zelda games", she follows you around in *one* Zelda game and doesn't appear again
Very good point!
(Timestamp - 1:51) I think that message from Bobby shows even without hacking, mods, edits, etc., because I somehow remember seeing that when I was trying to have Mario chat with Bobby in while on my way to The Princess Peach.
Yeah, exactly! That text seems to come up whenever you're: (1) with Bobby and (2) not with Olivia and (3) not at the Princess Peach cruise ship and maybe (4) some value for having been to the ship hasn't been flagged as "true" in the game's memory yet
I think the reason Bobby is so hard to hack is because he just leaves and disappear throughout the story
How do you even check this?
What if you set escape rate to 2147483647, or give it a negative value?
I don't know if 2147m is the highest number that can be used, I'll test that out! A negative escape rate doesn't let you run away from bosses also :( If you put in a very high value, the value either ends up getting stuck, or getting stuck at a negative value
(8:22) Another possibility I thought of is that Nintendo likely had enough foresight to guess that players would try to bring Bobby back after a certain moment of the game (that I won’t spoil here).
Yeah, there's a few ways to duplicate Bobby, and it might even be used in some speedrunning strategies that are being developed right now!
Hey can you make video about “can you win against snift without paying 1000coin?”you know that snift in desert city that scam u and trap luigi .cuz i spend to much time on it and I couldn’t do it.
Thanks for the comment! I saw something in the data00 file about that part of the game when I was scrolling through it the other day. I'll either make a video if there's anything interesting or a Twitter post if it's just a quick finding :) I think the way it normally works is that once you pay the Snifit the first time, they start snickering after that. I'm not sure if you can get lucky before paying at least once
Can you do a tutorial video on how to modify paper Mario the origami king
Xuman has a guide on GameBanana called "Modding Guide: How To Start Modding Paper Mario" that is good, I might make a video on how to do these things in the near future :)
OMG was this originally planned to be a loz game? Secret 1.5 sure makes it seem like it!
when i saw the tree in origami king i accidently called it a deku tree cause it looked like one. even though i wasn't a zelda fan
What is the code for luigi?
Can you beat all the bosses in Paper Mario the origami king without using the thousand fold arms?
A lot of them, yeah, but you do need the 1000-fold-arms to beat some of the bosses: you can't the Fire Vellumental or Rubber Bands without the 1000-fold-arm attack, and there might be others I can't think of off the top of my head. We did a video investigating if you can beat the fire vellumental without attacking it where we look at this if you're interested :)
And the video is here if you'd like to take a look! th-cam.com/video/yjPT6iGCO3M/w-d-xo.html
nathinel bandy says no xp for sticker star, color splash, and origami king
except someone could mod the code to work you said the code exists
Thank you so much for making this video! It was so informative (especially Secret 1.5, since I didn’t know most of those as I’m not a Zelda fan).
That's awesome, really glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for the comment!
Misssed opportunity to not have a Sombrero Guy as a partner
Yeah, he would've been a cool partner! The whole canned food par-tay would've made a nice team :)