Ranking ALL Paper Mario 64 Partners

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  • Want to improve your Paper Mario game? Listen to us explain in great detail why Bow is the only partner you need.
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    This is a Paper Mario 64 partner tier list.
    For this tier list I brought along Kappy to discuss and explain the strengths and weaknesses of each partner. We both play a lot of Paper Mario, so we decided to make this comprehensive guide for people who want to improve their game. Also it's just kind of an excuse for us to casually talk about a game we both love.
    This is in no way meant to be "the only way to play the game". Play how you want and have fun playing a great game!
    You might be thinking "Hey, that description is very familiar". And you would be right. This is basically the same thing we did for Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door.
    TTYD Partner Tier List ► • Ranking ALL Paper Mari...
    Despite that, 64's structure and balance is completely different. Partners are a lot more limited in what they can do and have very similar attributes. Because of this, the rankings are based on very minor differences. Besides a couple of partners that stand out in very specific ways, most partner utility depends on the situation.
    64's meta mainly revolves around Mario, so the partner who can assist Mario in the cheapest way possible is usually considered better.
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    Music Used (in order):
    Café Scene - Paper Mario: The Origami King
    Battle with King Olly - Paper Mario: The Origami King
    Café - Paper Mario: The Origami King
    Chestnut Valley - Paper Mario: The Origami King
    Mario Bros. - Super Smash Bros. Brawl
    Bomb Rush Blush - Splatoon
    Bomb Rush Blush (Remix) - Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
    March to Deliverance - Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia
    Big Boo - Paper Mario: Sticker Star
    Boo Night Fever - Paper Mario: Sticker Star
    Autumn Mountain Battle - Paper Mario: The Origami King
    Exploring the Great Sea - Paper Mario: The Origami King
    Crystal Canyon - Mario Strikers Charged
    00:00 Intro
    5:22 Goombario
    11:33 Kooper
    12:38 Bombette
    17:53 Parakarry
    22:52 Bow
    29:54 Watt
    35:37 Sushie
    45:50 Lakilester
    53:40 Conclusion
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ความคิดเห็น • 281

  • @AidanWR
    @AidanWR ปีที่แล้ว +622

    They forgot the most important part about Sushie. If you Tidal Wave too well, you crash the game

    • @appelofdoom8211
      @appelofdoom8211 ปีที่แล้ว +158

      Strong enough to KO the game itself. S-tier partner.

    • @DavideoGames641
      @DavideoGames641 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      I thought it was just for my old PC... Damn, I'm good!

    • @Moss_Dude
      @Moss_Dude 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Bombette can crash the game by kissing you

    • @sodaft1
      @sodaft1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      The game can crash by standing still

    • @14kevinnivek41
      @14kevinnivek41 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      We get it. Y’all watched stryder7x.

  • @zeromarurb4791
    @zeromarurb4791 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    I love how in both rankings the character in the highest tier is the one that makes Mario attack twice

    • @tastethepainbow
      @tastethepainbow 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      And the lowest tier character are both Bob-Ombs

  • @thanderhop1489
    @thanderhop1489 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    Bombette has the best first strike. That comes up a fair amount imo

    • @mistahl5350
      @mistahl5350 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      You're not wrong in terms of raw damage output from the First Strike, but setting it up can be the biggest pain in the world. When your other options are Mario twice and Kooper, not much of a contest, is it? :P
      This is coming from someone who loves the explosions a lot, and tries for her First Strike every time I can set it up, so I'm with ya. But these guys brought up a great point about her in general.

    • @Electro4890
      @Electro4890 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah but this is in battle only, so attacks outside don't count

    • @Rambestgirl
      @Rambestgirl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mistahl5350 that guys dosent give a good point of bombette he say that she useless because she cant hit when a enemie is in a platform and make her the worst parterner just for a little thing i dont think he totaly right and to in my opinion i love all caracter in is own way and bombette for me she be more usefull that parakary but i still use all of them

  • @Kaiyuni
    @Kaiyuni ปีที่แล้ว +83

    I think what really elevates Bow up is that even as a kid with no online resources or anything, I discovered Bow and Sushi were the best partners. I didn't use Watt very much, but once I discovered the gimmick with Bow to just make you immune to damage the game did turn into a bit of a breeze since Mario can decimate the entire game by himself pretty much.

  • @MaraudingManiac
    @MaraudingManiac ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Their expressions and what they're saying:
    Bow: (smug) "Ahaha, of course I was the best"
    Watt: "Hooray! I'm useful!"
    Sushi: "I've got a few tricks up my sleeve yet!"
    Kooper: "Best of the bros, woo!"
    Goombario: "It's not fair! I've only 3 attacks and they forgot to reset my multibonk cap..."
    Lakilester: "Phew, I'm not last... That's such a relief"
    Parakarry: "I HAVE OBJECTIONS"
    Bombette: "It's okay, I know the fans love me!"
    ...
    Mario: "Hmph. Pathetic."

    • @mlpfanboy1701
      @mlpfanboy1701 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Meanwhile what there saying in a (insert partner) only challange
      Sushi: get on my level
      Watt: screw huff and puff and the lava parahna.
      Parakarry: well that was quite the delivery im glad im so good
      Lakilester: once we got through the prolog it was ok for the most part
      Goombario: i will never forgive spike foes, static electricty, frost and fire.
      Bombette: curse all flyers
      Bow: *gets ptsd from the koopa bros fortress.* i hit them all a million times each, they just stood there laughing at me.
      Kooper: *literally useless in the prologue and didn’t get too much better after that.*
      Important thing to note in this: watt and parakarry were actually tied for second.

  • @fireemblem723
    @fireemblem723 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    Let's not forget that Goombario has a glitched multibonk, it almost always instacaps if you use it a second time.

    • @Rambestgirl
      @Rambestgirl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      gombario he dosent glitch

    • @fireemblem723
      @fireemblem723 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@Rambestgirl yes, he does. his multibonk cap is coded incorrectly. you get one shot with it per battle before it hard caps. unlike Marios multi-jump with power bounce, MBonk doesn't reset the cap value after the attack concludes. so if you, for example, land three jumps and flub, the counter reads "3" instead of "0" the next time you try to use it. so continue this hypothetical with an enemy with a hard cap of five. you can only land two bonks before you're forced off because the counter then reads "5"
      This is widely discussed by pretty much anyone with any decent understanding of the game.

    • @Rambestgirl
      @Rambestgirl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@fireemblem723 if u mean about how much hit he do for me i can do praticly the same amount as gombala in game cube and i can use it many time

    • @hi-ougidemonfang
      @hi-ougidemonfang 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Rambestgirl certain hacks fix it. Maybe you’re using one of those?

  • @runningoncylinders3829
    @runningoncylinders3829 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    Lady Bow has the multihit that was wild on Yoshi.
    Legend says that multihit moves with attack modulation clean house.

    • @ImFangzBro
      @ImFangzBro ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Yoshi Kid was even better, though. Because he got multi-hit on literally every enemy on screen.

    • @voltron77
      @voltron77 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah but defense kinda negates the multi hit

    • @Rambestgirl
      @Rambestgirl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah but boo she cant do mutli hit and to because she have the lowest att she cant really hit that much enemie and same vs boss

  • @SagaciousSilence
    @SagaciousSilence ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I never realized that Out of Sight basically gives Mario 2 turns of attacks. That just blew my mind. That is BROKEN!

    • @ninjagaro.
      @ninjagaro. ปีที่แล้ว +10

      burns one turn if you use it before mario

    • @enlongjones2394
      @enlongjones2394 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      This is why they changed the mechanic for its successor in Vivian’s Veil. Veil uses up Vivian’s turn, and then returns Mario to the battlefield one turn later, in the same state he was in when he left. If Mario’s turn was used up when you used Veil, it would still be used up when he returned, and it would immediately become the opponent’s turn. You’d only be able to move as Mario if you didn’t move before using Veil.
      This made Veil way less powerful than Outta Sight

    • @gravity8120
      @gravity8120 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Veil is just balanced Outta Sight.
      It's weird that they claim Outta Sight is a Rally Wink "That makes you invincible". Like, making you invincible for a turn IS why it's a Rally Wink.

    • @altsadhara
      @altsadhara หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@gravity8120 I'd say that it's more accurate to say it's a rally wink that can also be used to avoid charged attacks. So, in most cases it's just identical to wink, but it has more versatile applications while also being cheaper.

    • @assaaddandashi7396
      @assaaddandashi7396 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea it’s a rally wink that also let’s Bow attack after using it

  • @DaGhostToastRoast
    @DaGhostToastRoast ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Boos are my favorite Mario enemy characters so of course Lady Bow stole my heart. I even have a fan made plushy of her.

  • @arios6443
    @arios6443 ปีที่แล้ว +464

    The other problem with Goombario is that Multibonk is bugged; the cap doesn't reset properly between uses, so it's not worth using more than once.

    • @Chr0n0s38
      @Chr0n0s38 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Makes the single target damage argument kind of bad. Better to buff Mario with a partner.

    • @Dark_Mario_Bros.
      @Dark_Mario_Bros. ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Chr0n0s38 not to mention Watt, who ignores defense

    • @Chr0n0s38
      @Chr0n0s38 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@Dark_Mario_Bros. Defense isn't that common so that aspect of Watt isnt the most important. Damage boosting Mario on the other hand.....

    • @voltron77
      @voltron77 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Meh, he does so much damage in the first place that it doesn’t matter, Goombario is easily the best partner.

    • @TheKorenji
      @TheKorenji 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Chr0n0s38 The idea is that you can charge with Mario AND with Goombario.

  • @RoseSupreme
    @RoseSupreme ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Lady Bow on the top?
    These guys certainly know their stuff.

    • @mlpfanboy1701
      @mlpfanboy1701 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Only because they can use mario too. Bow by herself is hard-walled in chapter 1. As in you couldn’t even get to the boss of chapter one without marios help if she was the only usable in battle partner, in fact there is exactly 1 chapter 1 mandatory fight she can do: the fuzzies, the only partner in a use only one partner and mario does not attack run that is worse then bow is kooper, and thats because without action commands he hard locks the game never doing any damage meaning even the prologue is impossible for him.

    • @Rambestgirl
      @Rambestgirl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      boss she good but have weakness to more that just def

    • @daniellejackson6543
      @daniellejackson6543 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@mlpfanboy1701What do you mean? Bow isn't available until chapter 3.

  • @RaveNinja1401
    @RaveNinja1401 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    Bow's so badass of a partner she earned the only in-game cameo with dialogue and all in TTYD (Parakarry doesn't count, he only shows up in a cutscene)

    • @mlpfanboy1701
      @mlpfanboy1701 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Only after you get her, if you had to use her and only her in chapter 1 you would curse her name forever, she is useful in exactly 1 mandatory fight in chapter 1: the fuzzies

    • @Palasid11
      @Palasid11 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That means you COULD consider Parakarry as plot relevant.

    • @chudzors
      @chudzors 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      False, all the partners can be found and talked to.

    • @Buzzster1
      @Buzzster1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@chudzorswhat

    • @Rambestgirl
      @Rambestgirl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah she badass but she still have 2 weakness firstr she useless vs enemie with def and 2 she cant hit more that 1 enemie better to att most as we can exept vs boss and some of them have def then she cant be that usefull

  • @michaelr3077
    @michaelr3077 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The real partners were the badges we found along the way.

  • @RaccoonThunderMario_Official
    @RaccoonThunderMario_Official ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I’d be interested to see a Master Quest tier list cause I can tell you this list changes a lot

    • @SkyanUltra
      @SkyanUltra ปีที่แล้ว +18

      maybe for the bottom half of partners, but honestly bow watt and sushi are still fantastic top tiers even in master quest, though bow falls off a bit considering way more encounters have defensive enemies, so arguably watt is a bit better even with reduced damage.

    • @RaccoonThunderMario_Official
      @RaccoonThunderMario_Official ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@SkyanUltra Well Bow has Screech so she does have an attacking option

    • @Takhi4141
      @Takhi4141 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Goombario would definitely move up with iron bonk imo

    • @RaccoonThunderMario_Official
      @RaccoonThunderMario_Official ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Takhi4141 and personally I'd think Lakilester would also drop down a few ranks.

    • @SkyanUltra
      @SkyanUltra ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@RaccoonThunderMario_Official that is true, screech is pretty alright for the defense pierce. i actually forgot about that LOL

  • @BetaSquaredPlus
    @BetaSquaredPlus ปีที่แล้ว +262

    Next, do the SPM Pixels tier list.

    • @impfzestTheNogger
      @impfzestTheNogger ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Cudge is S+

    • @Driggsdamonstah
      @Driggsdamonstah ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@impfzestTheNogger Honestly Barry is better. (And obviously Carrie carries the competition.)

    • @madface7820
      @madface7820 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      shoutout to the only pixl in sss tier: piccolo 😎😎😎

    • @drakalproto
      @drakalproto ปีที่แล้ว +35

      breadward is SSS tier

    • @aprinnyonbreak1290
      @aprinnyonbreak1290 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Driggsdamonstah
      Agree
      Barry is way way better.
      Cudge is outclassed by just using Bowser like you should be 90% of the time something needs to die, while Barry is universally good, and there's a couple handy interactions he has.

  • @omaridaniels8427
    @omaridaniels8427 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Yeah, people really seemed to gravitate towards the TTYD partner ranking video, which is great for you all. Really liked the discussion on Vivian. Nice to see you doing 64 as well!

  • @arios6443
    @arios6443 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Hot Take: Bombette deserves a bit more credit for being the only partner that can use her Tier 2 ability for free (edit: on the field).

    • @BlazinKazin
      @BlazinKazin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bomb is 3fp what?

    • @arios6443
      @arios6443 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@BlazinKazin Sorry, I meant as a first strike; dropping Bombette on Clefts and Bill Blasters.

    • @kingpig8732
      @kingpig8732 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@arios6443 yeah its useful but it can be kinda hard to setup sometimes and most important fights don't give you the option to do the first strike, but i can see it being useful in hard mode mods of the game like dark star i guess. But idk they might've rebalanced the partners in some of the mods

  • @leethompson-kolar6333
    @leethompson-kolar6333 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I gotta say, the music choices are inspired. The Mario Bros. theme for Kooper, Bomb Rush Blush for Bombette, March to Deliverance for Parakarry the deliveryman, and probably some other clever jokes I didn't catch. Well done!

  • @Takhi4141
    @Takhi4141 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The editing when sushi is introduced is the best!!! You do such a good job with all these small bits you do
    Legit you are my favorite youtuber

  • @Tamorak
    @Tamorak ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I think the discussion on bosses is a little off?
    The Nintendo intended strat is for you to use the partner you got that chapter for that chapter boss to 'counter' them.
    Chapter 1 - Bombette knocks down the stack
    Chapter 2 - Kerry can shell shot for higher damage
    Chapter 3 - Bow can dodge the massive damage on the heart
    Chapter 4 - Watt pierces the tanks defense
    Chapter 5 - Sushi does more damage to Lava Parana P2
    Chapter 6 - You're SUPPOSED to use the charge strat because they give you the charge badge, and Lakilester is the most efficient way to clear the screen without spawning more puffs.
    Chapter 7 - You're SUPPOSED to use multiple partner, fire shell on grounded phase or Watt for more damage, spiny surge on the bits, air raid or tidal wave on the floating images and let Mario deal damage to the boss itself.
    Chapter 8 - ....Yeah Watt is just superior for all of Bowser because of his random AI.
    For the two that you get before hand -
    Goombario is super efficient at dealing with Koopa Troopa type enemies, which are largely seen in Prolog
    Kooper is super efficient at dealing with low HP swarm of enemies that are seen throughout most of Chapter 1 proper.
    For what it's worth, I actually think Watt is better than Bow overall and Kooper is better than Gombario. For most of the midbosses, they'll have at least some defense making Watt very efficient or he can semi-reliably just stop them dead in their tracks with power shock, and for most of the enemy packs throughout the game you can Power Shell your way to victory with some extra oomph from Mario. Bow only gets really better than Kooper whenever you play risky and are in danger/peril and can more efficiently use out of sight. And hot take, but Sushi isn't that good if you don't know the metagame of PM64, cycle mash strats had to be found by digging through the games code, where a fair good of people can see the power and value from a lot of the common badge set ups.

  • @RumpelTheFrenchSpy
    @RumpelTheFrenchSpy ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've actually started a new Paper Mario 64 playthrough after watching this (I wanted to do it for some time but this video got me back into the mood) and been applying some of the arguments put forward. I'm at Tubba Blubba's Castle as I'm typing this: Mario and Super Ranked Kooper absolutely destroy Chapter 2, and while Bombette has a pretty useful First Strike against some enemies, like the Clefts, Parakarry puts in a lot of work. That Tutankoopa strat is ridiculous.

  • @emir1640
    @emir1640 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I didn‘t expect Bow as the best partner…
    She‘s one of my favorites but I never thought about the things you said and I have problems with her attacks (I have a broken controller). But my favorite partner is still Watt anyway. I really love to use her^^

  • @alainlaroche573
    @alainlaroche573 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It’s definitely between Watt and Lady Bow. I think Watt is more consistently useful since she can attack pretty much every enemy and ignores defense. While Lady bow can be better or worse than watt depending on who you fight and how you builded your mario.

  • @MoonGhostDoodles
    @MoonGhostDoodles ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Bow and Goombella supremacy. Both the best partners mechanically and personality-wise

    • @patrickstar9684
      @patrickstar9684 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not in Book of Mario

    • @aprinnyonbreak1290
      @aprinnyonbreak1290 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Bow actually has a personality in 64, which is more than most can say.
      The fact that it's pretty good is just gravy.

  • @hexxter77
    @hexxter77 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Berserker mario saying "thank you" is the most cursed thing I've heard in my life.

  • @baconlabs
    @baconlabs ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm currently on a Lucky Star-less run, it's really wild how challenge runs can completely shake up viability for various things!
    If anyone's curious, Parakarry is the best for such a run, hands-down, because Shell Shot retains its all-or-nothing damage output even without the Lucky Star. Air Raid comes in handy too, even if it does drop down to 2 damage. 4 damage on Sky Dive without hitting the action command is really good too.
    I still get a lot of mileage out of Bombette for first strikes, Bow for Power/Mega Rush synergy, and Lakilester for free Spiny Flip damage, and I never ever use Kooper for his amazing ability to softlock the game with 3/4 of his attacks! Fun stuff.

  • @SherbertTheSherb
    @SherbertTheSherb ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Let’s goooo!! The video we have been waiting for, can’t wait to watch an hour long video on PM 64 partners, I unfortunately have basically only used Bombette and Bow qwq

    • @2401blue
      @2401blue 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They're both good options!

  • @GravityBouncer
    @GravityBouncer ปีที่แล้ว +11

    homie has GOT to let the other homie talk. it was a bit stressful to listen to someone continuously be cut ofd

  • @hypotheticaltapeworm
    @hypotheticaltapeworm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The two of you bounce off each other really well, I can tell you're good friends. Nice to listen to.

  • @Hacksawgrunts101
    @Hacksawgrunts101 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Solid video, I can't wait for the TTYD badge tier list, that will be over 3 hours long, featuring guest appearances from Jdaster & Lenny.

  • @WilfredCthulu
    @WilfredCthulu ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I feel like we're forgetting somebody... a certain... beetle...
    Goompa! No... Twink! No... Lakilulu...? Huh don't know.
    Jokes aside doing randomized runs has truly showed me the value of them especially bow. I still wish the ninji would be added as a partner in a mod lol. The don's son.

    • @infinityheart_tm9270
      @infinityheart_tm9270 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Buzzatrice is a fanmade partner.

    • @WilfredCthulu
      @WilfredCthulu ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@infinityheart_tm9270 🚫💩

    • @madface7820
      @madface7820 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@infinityheart_tm9270 no she's official actually, John Tendo told me

    • @jumpmanhammerman1311
      @jumpmanhammerman1311 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jokes and stupidity aside, Buzzatrice would be an interesting conversation actually, although I feel that her giving Mario extra turns with the “drawback” of damaging him sometimes would put her definitely second best, if not the best partner outright (supposing vanilla PM64 Bow, not Dark Star Bow)

    • @CesarTorres61296
      @CesarTorres61296 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Buzzatrice would absolutely be above Bow.

  • @FinalCataclsym
    @FinalCataclsym ปีที่แล้ว +10

    One thing I didn't see mentioned is who to upgrade to next rank first and who to upgrade to final rank first. I remember upgrading Goombario to next rank first, but Bow took priority for final rank first. Bow's awesome, but Goombario had some time to shine.

  • @mr.ilikespam6081
    @mr.ilikespam6081 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    lady bow was more involved in her story so she get a big buff on that alone to the point it feels like the other partners were just added after the writing was done

  • @dylanhill4428
    @dylanhill4428 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Try not to mention BP only challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
    Poor Kappy got interrupted so many times LOL

  • @Medascott
    @Medascott ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Bow would be even better, though, if she were a light shade of pink.

  • @CountShaman
    @CountShaman ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'll be honest, I was deadass expecting either Parakarry or Lakilester to be at the bottom even though I like them both, but I'm glad they're not.

  • @Neogears1312
    @Neogears1312 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I will say that Goombario has a case of opportunity cost. He's only good at bosses, but by using him you're costing yourself other options. Investing in him is bad because investing in bow or watt gets you a better alternative, and if you invest in kooper you'll have an easier time with enemies and less party members compete in that field. I dont think he's the worst but i think he's second. He's one of the only party members that are completely outclased in a niche.

    • @Shalakor
      @Shalakor 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But he is S-tier in 100% completion runs.

  • @TheNuts1225
    @TheNuts1225 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I can't be the only one who hoarded stone caps and just charged a million turns with Goombario and the 1 shot the boss with miltiboink right?

    • @AlxWinter
      @AlxWinter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lol nice strat

    • @celerycelerizer4713
      @celerycelerizer4713 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's exactly what I did as a kid!

    • @peksioart6706
      @peksioart6706 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I don't use the stone caps but I basically did the same with some bosses but instead I healed Mario with Eldstar

  • @bitterzombie
    @bitterzombie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    One aspect to bomberette that wasnt mentioned is that you can use her explosion in the overworld to get a first strike bomb that doesn't use any FP. So she can be a good lead in to fights where you can get that first strike

  • @ElTaitronAnim
    @ElTaitronAnim ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly, very few surprises. I'm glad Watt is ranked so highly in both high-level and casual, because then my comment on the other video doesn't make me look like a dumb (which reinforces my thought that Mowz's badness is an overcompensation for Watt).
    I also always upgrade Kooper first for the chapter 2 Quake Hammer+Power Shell combo!

  • @definitelynotthefbi627
    @definitelynotthefbi627 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hoping for that badge tier list in the future for 64 and TTYD; would be interesting to see your updated, definitive opinions on them in one concise video. I'd imagine a lot more disagreement there, which would be very funny to watch. Maybe even a quick special moves tier list to cover almost everything.

  • @gboogie3257
    @gboogie3257 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As someone who only played PM64 in 2022 (Nintendo Switch Edition) I can see lots of reasons for your choices on the rankings and honestly have nothing to disagree with *cough* (manly because I only played this game twice so I haven’t truly experimented a lot)
    But yeah I can hugely respect this rankings of these partners and can see all of your reasonings
    My Ranking:
    1. Bow
    2.Goombario
    3.Sushi
    4.Kooper
    5.Watt
    6.ParraKarry
    7.Lakiluster
    8.Bombette
    One how often I used them:
    1.Goombario
    2.Bow
    3.Watt
    4.Sushi
    5.Kooper
    6.Bombette
    7.ParraKarry
    8.Lakiluster

  • @colossaldonut5190
    @colossaldonut5190 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Bombette may be B tier but she's S-tier in my heart.

    • @Electro4890
      @Electro4890 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bombette is the casuals S tier. I always see everyone use bombette when they start the game lol, and I was just like that

  • @DarkSoulsSauron
    @DarkSoulsSauron ปีที่แล้ว +6

    goombario is a partner i super early because having a 2 power jump prior to dry dry ruins is actually quite good, but then i delay ultra ranking him because by the time you get to chap 5 you have much better partners competing for power blocks.

  • @GlitchmanVGM
    @GlitchmanVGM 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Very fun to watch and entertaining! I would love to see a badge tier list, one for 64 and TTYD! That would be awesome! 😃

  • @gravity8120
    @gravity8120 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always liked equipping Group Focus in my playthroughs just so that the partners all had an extra command available to them.
    It's just a shame it isn't buffed by Deep Focus, since it'd actually be a useful badge then.
    This is such an interesting discussion because yeah, they have really small intricate differences that make them slightly better/worse in some areas. Like Parakarry interestingly has Sky Dive deal 4 damage at Ultra Rank if you fail the action command, compared to most characters' 3.

  • @vomitscape
    @vomitscape ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Can’t wait for the Origami King partner tierlist.

  • @hasandelgado7237
    @hasandelgado7237 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks guys this was an excellent discussion

  • @pasqualembisceglia1989
    @pasqualembisceglia1989 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    53:10
    1st: Lady Bow who is a Boo in Boo's Mansion (Chapter 3)
    2nd: Watt who is a Lil' Spark in Shy Guy's Toy Box (Chapter 4)
    3rd: Sushie who is a Cheep Cheep in Yoshi's Village at Mt. Lavalava (Chapter 5)
    4th: Kooper who is a Koopa Troopa in Koopa Village (Chapter 1)
    5th: Goombario who is a Goomba in Goomba Village (Prologue)
    6th: Lakilester who is a Lakitu in Flower Fields (Chapter 6)
    7th: Parakarry who is a Paratroopa in Mt. Rugged (Chapter 2)
    8th: Bombette who is a Bob-omb in Koopa Bros Fortress (Chapter 1)

    • @christianmckee2116
      @christianmckee2116 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was gonna say that Watt is the only partner not based on a traditional Mario enemy, but then I remembered that Sparkies appeared in Super Mario World first, so that's not true lol.

    • @ExaltedTilemaker
      @ExaltedTilemaker หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@christianmckee2116 I think before that they were in SMB3 as well.

  • @ccgarciab
    @ccgarciab ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looking forward to that badges list

  • @LMPL1993
    @LMPL1993 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this kind of content. The first 2 ppm games were my favorite.

    • @hamzahargrave2410
      @hamzahargrave2410 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wait really?? What about SPM?

    • @carlitoes9473
      @carlitoes9473 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@hamzahargrave2410SPM is pretty different with how it turns away from turn based combat. It's a different type of game

    • @hamzahargrave2410
      @hamzahargrave2410 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @carlitoes9473 Correct but just cause it deviates from the formula doesn't mean people have to alienate it

  • @crushingon
    @crushingon 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I recently replayed this game a few weeks ago for the first time since childhood in the switch VC and here are my personal thoughts
    #1: Lady Bow: obviously for pretty much all the reasons you stated, it's easy to make good use of her even against multiple enemies.
    #2: Kooper: For most of the game cheap multi-target damage against grounded enemies is very relevant. Chances are he's going to be out most of the time in every chapter once you get to the parts where you fight 3 or 4 enemies at a time because it's easy to make Mario deal enough AoE damage for him to clean up. Normal battles is all you're doing in this game and most bosses have a clean cut solution, so Kooper is going to be out most of the game.
    #3 Parakary: He has the highest and cheapest single target damage for a long time that can hit any kind of target. Similarly Air Raid is Strong consistent 6 damage to every single target with nothing that can resist or avoid it.
    #4 Sushie: Same as Parakary in pretty much every metric, except Squirt is water type and Tidal wave has potentially more damage if you do the inputs fast enough. She highlights a lot in the chapter where she joins, as is to be expected, although I found tidal wave to be the same as Air Raid so I preferred Parakary because his inputs are much easier. They're in practice pretty much the same in my experience.
    #5 Watt: A lot more situational, she's really strong against enemies with defense and her Turbo Charge help Mario push power bounce higher, but it surprisingly didn't come to play as often. Much like you said the paralysis is nice, but I found status effects to be inconsistent when oneshotting battles was super viable all through the game and bosses often were immune to status effects.
    #6 Bombette: Shines a lot early game and has a very important trait not mentioned in the video: She's can get free 3 SP bombs by blowing up in the overworld which you can exploit. Sadly I felt she completely falls off after chapter 3, but has the highlight of being able to wipe the entire forest completely clean *laughs in maple syrup*.
    #7 Lakilester: What the hell does this guy even does? Like his only two damaging attacks are s pretty basic normal and his AoE is a lukewarm All Enemies that's functionally more expensive Shell Shot or a weaker Air Raid. You get him so late that it's hard to think of using him instead of other partners
    #8: Goombario: Tattlebot, all he really does is jump and he's vulnerable to everything. The only claim to fame he has is discount Power Bounce alll the way until chapter 5. at a point where uncharged and unboosted powerbounces starting at 5 damage are lack luster and charging it consumes more FP than the effort is worth.

  • @Eddiegames9
    @Eddiegames9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do really like Dizzy Shell in the context of rando and romhacks a lot because it's usually your cheapest fp route to no damaging an encounter, especially for 3+ enemy ones, it's accessable super early, and it's consistently effective regardless of how much power Mario has or any enemy hp modifiers. But in vanilla it's definitely a lot less necessary

  • @JamesGamesTreasureHunting
    @JamesGamesTreasureHunting ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also it’s really really funny to see the contrast from you guys down talking Vivan’s veil and Ms. Mowz’s love slap to now praising Bow as the best when she really just has improved versions of these moves.

    • @LMPL1993
      @LMPL1993 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Those differences matter.

  • @nimanator
    @nimanator ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'll just sit here waiting for a NPC tier list

  • @JustJulyo
    @JustJulyo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's so sad knowing how outclassed Bombette truly is....

  • @CEOofCunnySlurper
    @CEOofCunnySlurper ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Coincidentally I love both Bow and Goombella personality wise 🔥

  • @thehypist2587
    @thehypist2587 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I watched this video for one reason and I was not disappointed. So happy to see my favorite, green ghost girl at the top spot! Bow is the best, it’s a shame speedruns skip her since she’s such an amazing partner. Definitely my favorite PM girl!

  • @ZeoLightning
    @ZeoLightning ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i really feel like yall are underrating goombario multibonk charge strats. yes it takes turns, but you offset this with the sheer amount of damage capable, goombario and Mario both using charge multi strats can end a boss quickly, and when you arent trying to use just AOE kills goombario keeps up with mario for dealing with enemies quickly. even base multibonk can out damage bosses on average compared to most other partners abilities. if not for the capped multibonk i'd say all.
    also glad im not the only one who realizes goombario super rank chapter 2 is massively slept on and super good.

  • @chackbro1
    @chackbro1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I put this video in my playlist for my drive home and that SUUUP almost made me crash because of how much it startled me. It was hilarious

  • @enlongjones2394
    @enlongjones2394 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To go a little more in-depth on Outta Sight vs Veil: if Mario still had an action when you used Veil, he’ll still have an action when he returns to the field. If he didn’t have an action left when you used Veil, he won’t have an action when he returns, so that turn will just end. So it’s like the move delays the rest of Mario’s turn. Outta Sight gives Mario an action when he returns no matter what.
    I don’t know what could be done to make that type of move balanced, since the only logical change makes it mostly worthless instead of busted. Maybe if Vivian got a turn (that she couldn’t use on Veil) when they returned?

  • @ShyGuyXXL
    @ShyGuyXXL ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was really hoping for a comedy routine like...
    So, tell me, what is the best partner?
    Correct.
    What?
    Yes, Watt is the best partner.
    That's what I wanna know, what is the best partner.
    Certainly.
    What is!
    Yes, Watt!
    I'm asking you!
    And I'm telling you! It's Watt!
    No, that's a question! I want the answer!
    Watt!
    What?
    Yes, Watt!
    That's my question! What is the best partner!
    You wanna know what the best partner is?
    Yes, that's all I wanna know!
    It's Watt!
    THAT'S WHAT I WANNA KNOW!
    ....
    Look... you have a favourite partner, right?
    Yes.
    And it's not Goombario.
    Right.
    And it's not Parakarry.
    That's correct.
    Then who is it?
    Watt.
    The best partner?
    Watt.
    Best partner from Paper Mario!
    Watt!
    From the first game in the series!
    Watt!
    Out of all the 8 first partners!
    Watt!
    THE PARTNERS IN PAPER MARIO ON THE N64!
    WATT! WATT IS MY FAVOURITE PARTNER!
    THAT'S WHAT I WANNA KNOW!
    [audience goes wild]

  • @LegendOfMario
    @LegendOfMario ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Had to check the date, thank god it is April 2nd.

  • @zswords
    @zswords 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I find it interesting, that in the game where the partners have a pretty linear power scale, you used a tier list to rank them
    and in the game, where the partners are more tiered in what they do, effectively being 'Bow, damage with utility buff, generic damage' you use a linear display.

  • @Electro4890
    @Electro4890 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imo
    S tier - Watt, Bow, Sushie
    A tier - Parakarry, Kooper
    B tier - Goombario
    C tier - Bombette, Lakilester

  • @kappaross47
    @kappaross47 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would put bow #2, if she was a light shade of pink she'd be #1

  • @JarryMingles
    @JarryMingles ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These partner tier list videos were so much fun, I would always ultra rank Bow first for fan smack and spam it.
    So... about that Pixls tier list...

  • @edfreak9001
    @edfreak9001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    going to make my guess ahead of time and predict that the top to bottom order is Bow > Watt > Sushie > Parakarry > Kooper > Lakilester > Goombario
    aaaaand maybe i'll edit to comment further afterwards, if I do it'll be under the cut.

  • @CR1MSONACE
    @CR1MSONACE 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For every complaint about something stopping you from getting into danger quickly, I have been YELLING about *Chet Rippo*

  • @catprincess7935
    @catprincess7935 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i think bombette is a lot better than given credit for, yes she drains FP but you can solo loadouts with powerbomb for a while alternating refresh and focus making her less FP cost than powershell and quakehammer in effect

  • @TBANinjaAbe
    @TBANinjaAbe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just finished my first run through of 64 like last week and did the entire last dungeons with lakilester and watt, never even tried bow

  • @metalsonic8888
    @metalsonic8888 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lakilester should be on the bottom tier. His basic move deals 4 damage, his crowd control attack move deals 4 damage, and his 2 utility abilities have the same use cases as Bow's who is just way more generally useful. If Lakilester showed up in chapter 2 or 3 instead of the end of chapter 6 then Spiny Surge would have some legitimate uses, but by that point 4 damage is nothing. Even if it costs more FP you can just use any of the other crowd control moves that are more likely to finish off low HP foes completely in a single attack with Mario around for cleanup. Bzzaps in chapter 6 and Swoopulas in chapter 7 are perhaps the main argument for Lakilester being useful, but even that doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Bzzaps are one of the only late game enemies Lakilester can kill outright, but once you get him you are unlikely to encounter any more since chapter 6 is nearly done. And due to his ability to hit Swoopulas on the ceiling you might think he has some niche uses in certain rooms of Crystal Palace, but Bombette can reduce them to 1 HP with Mega Bomb which allows Zap Tap to finish them off and frees up Mario to focus on the Duplighosts, and Sushi can just kill them straight up if you're good with Tidal Wave. Pretty much every other enemy isn't even worth considering using him since his damage is so low and lacks special properties like fire or piercing. If Cloud 9 stacked with the evasion badges granting you near 100% dodge then I could see him actually moving up very high in the rankings, but it doesn't. So if you need to dodge a move you just use Bow instead of gambling.
    Either showing up earlier or not having overlap in utility with the best partner in the game would help fix Lakilester, but both those factors together make him worthless, moreso than any other partner

  • @doorto6152
    @doorto6152 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like using bombette to first strike the ancient chomps in chapter 2. Instant win.

  • @pasqualembisceglia1989
    @pasqualembisceglia1989 ปีที่แล้ว

    The background is Game Guy's Lucky 7 from Mario Party 3 which is also a 2001 game for Nintendo 64.

  • @atmosdwagon4656
    @atmosdwagon4656 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All hail Queen Garlic! The semi-guarded treasure!

  • @javierquinterosurzua2767
    @javierquinterosurzua2767 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A hack where you get all partners from the beggining would be interesting

  • @darc5925
    @darc5925 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like that Bow is the best, I've always liked the ojousama-type character. I've noticed that this game has a lot of overlap in partners especially Parakarry, Kooper, and Bombette. They all essentially do the same thing but slightly different so I appreciate TTYD for cutting down on the number of partners so that way there is more variety in moves even if some partners end up better or worse
    When you look at partners in more simpler way it cuts down to:
    Gombario: tutorial, high dmg
    Kooper: ground hit-all
    Bombette: expensive hit-all
    Parakarry: fuel-efficient hit-all
    Bow: outta sight, reliable dmg
    Watt: Green mage, def pierce
    Sushie: tanky hit-all
    Lakilester: "safe" pick, gotoh archetype i guess? guess you could say he's lakiluster...
    ...
    i'll go now

    • @aprinnyonbreak1290
      @aprinnyonbreak1290 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Parrakarry is the single target, skill check reward character.
      Shell Shot has basically unparalleled damage if you're 8 and can't into badges, but the action command is also tricky if you're 8, and gives you nothing if you fail.
      In the year 2023, when Paper Mario veterans have gone native and are concocting ways to beat The Master at level 3 with only a bag of cheetos and a Dusty Hammer, that may not hold up, but when you're 8, Parakarry actually outdamages Mario for most of the game, and often by a lot.

  • @Rjay9292
    @Rjay9292 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Top 8 Paper Mario partners
    1. Watts
    2. Bow
    3. Sushie
    4. Bombette
    5. Kooper
    6. Goombario
    7. Parakarry
    8. Lakilester (Spike)

  • @daniellejackson6543
    @daniellejackson6543 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lakilester helped me against both the chapter 7 boss and the master(true final form) with the aid of spiny surge and cloud nine respectively(best defensive move other than water block and chill out. Basically just out of sight with multiple turns and keeping the partner's next turn but only about 50% evasion) albeit I used a crazy badge build and maxed out my hp and bp with a good amount of fp although his ultrarank ability is just spook, you would expect something really good but nope. Kooler is average. Solid aoe damage, ultrarank is really good against ice but weak single target damage and somewhat outclassed by quake. Bow, watt, and lakilester have the best revular attacks as lakilester's cannot be dodged, watt's ignores defense and slap and fan smack which is just better slap has the best 0 defense single target damage out of all of the party members. Watt and bow are good due to their normal moves, watts charge, and smack. The fish can boost defense and does good damage to fire enemies. I have rarely used parrakarry because besides shell shot, and air raid, which is similar to other moves, his attacks aren't that good. You have inconsistent single target spook and the normal attack with the most uncomfortable timing though shell shot is decent. Goombario is good when you don't have peekaboo or the badge spaces for it in bosses but not much else. Bombette explodes but her focus on ground enemies and lack of support for me not to use it. Mario is clearly the best though lets be real.

  • @Zanaro97
    @Zanaro97 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I only subbed for the pape content
    This is why im here.

  • @jacobseibert1635
    @jacobseibert1635 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bows power is the reason vivian was prematurely nerfed

  • @GhoullyXX
    @GhoullyXX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just watched your Black Pit episode 31 video and at 16:30 JDaster called Bow mid tier and Fatguy followed up with "C-tier at best".

  • @ShortFatOtaku
    @ShortFatOtaku 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    dude your vids are hilarious

  • @360KnowSoap
    @360KnowSoap ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Origami King partners next? :o

  • @goldgunscantshoot973
    @goldgunscantshoot973 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    TTYD partners ranked on design/personality please?

  • @jonlevidalkvistagustsson6134
    @jonlevidalkvistagustsson6134 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bombette is just glad to be free from prison! Also I would swap Bow and Watt besides that I'd keep most things the same but put Lakilester inbetween Bombette and Parakary.

  • @peternicholas3719
    @peternicholas3719 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hype!

  • @Zim7787
    @Zim7787 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you

  • @archmagemc3561
    @archmagemc3561 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why is bombette more useful in the randomizer? Fatguy got cut off when he was going to explain that.

  • @jordandorsett3106
    @jordandorsett3106 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    56:18 XD Giant paper mario

  • @moralsupport3802
    @moralsupport3802 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'll be real with you here. If every partner does the same exact thing, then the unique partners should rank higher. Goombario 4th so you can tattle enemies instead of skipping the partner turn, just to laugh at them. No other partner roasts the enemies

  • @criticalil8870
    @criticalil8870 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    they massacred my boy goombario

  • @Rawbherb
    @Rawbherb 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bombette is happy to be included

  • @PastysBakery
    @PastysBakery ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I got thru an entire countertop of dirty dishes listening to this. ^^ LOVE listening to you guys!! You make PM meta digestible for a normie like me!
    (Also is there any world where you guys would do a Pixls tier list like as a short video, LMAO)

  • @TheRogueThunder
    @TheRogueThunder 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I personally put Watt above Bow because all my N64 controller joysticks are loose because of her

  • @whomgod420
    @whomgod420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Holy hell someone finally actually ranked these properly

  • @dragonarcher89
    @dragonarcher89 หลายเดือนก่อน

    in my personal opinion, watts my absolute fave partner in this game. her first attack costing no fp and can get over defense is kinda nuts tbh. though i still liked kooper and sushi a lot as well. i used them quite a few times in my first playthrough last year. bow, didnt use much as i first thought she was...not useless...but underwhelming for the most part. might reply paper mario sometime and give her another shot.

  • @irishrunner27
    @irishrunner27 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    imagine if goombario had something like 'encourage: increases mario's power by 2' so like he gives the 'charge' to mario, would he be way better that way?

  • @mlpfanboy1701
    @mlpfanboy1701 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fat guy: sushi is a clear 3
    Phantom A’s sushi only run: the only partner that can solo the game (except for the lantern ghost, the fuzziped and bowser fights) effectively in battle, beating both watt and bow in terms of battle capabilities.
    Fat guy: bow is number 1
    Phantom A’s bow only run: loses heavily to any foe with any defense. Gets second to last in terms of battle capabilities. The only one worse then her is kooper and thats because in the prologue is impossible for him to do damage in.

    • @Fatguy703
      @Fatguy703  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I'm assuming those runs are partner only and don't allow Mario to attack. This is not a ranking based on solo partner performance.
      64's meta mainly revolves around Mario, so the partner who can assist Mario in the cheapest way possible is usually considered better.

    • @mlpfanboy1701
      @mlpfanboy1701 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fatguy703 i know. He also said in the start of his bow only video “along side mario bow is obviously the best partner in the game. But she wont have mario’s help here will she?”. The challenge was not letting mario attack unless its absolutely needed. Its just irony that in his partner only play-through sushi takes the crown. She could attack without action commands (her squirt doing the highest damage without action commands) she can knock down the koopa bros tower by her self with a belly flop (which bow can not do), she can solo huff and puff which watt was useless against. Aside from the lanturn ghost Im struggling to remember a boss he couldnt beat with only sushi aside from the obvious ones (fuzzipede and bowser)

    • @mlpfanboy1701
      @mlpfanboy1701 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fatguy703 there were some other interesting things he showed. For example: Were you aware not every partner can hit the goomnut tree in the goomba king fight? in fact its rare for a partner to hit it. Bow couldn’t use it, if i recall correctly watt couldnt hit it, sushi could however.

    • @Buglin_Burger7878
      @Buglin_Burger7878 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fatguy703 For that claim to hold true Goombario would need to be last because every partner has more assistance unless I'm wrong.

  • @thomaseichler920
    @thomaseichler920 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do a Tier List for the Pixls in Super Paper Mario.