It's great that competition is encouraging innovation. I assume that always-on fan situation could be adjusted with a firmware update, but that build volume just doesn't cut it imo.
Hi ! Please help me !!! I need to adjust the e-step of my Flashforge 5m pro because the prints are having dimensional discrepancies. How do I make these adjustments? And How to adjust belt tension?
Your timing is perfect! I'm looking at replacing one of our Makerbot Sketches in a middle school classroom, I've had to fix it almost daily the past few weeks. My first thought was the K1 but after seeing this, I'm definitely intrigued. Would you say the noise level of the fans are lower on the 5M or the K1? Thanks!
The nozzle swaps on this machine are super pricey. Wish they found a way to make the quick swap work with some existing nozzle type using an adapter or such. Bambu's system isn't quick swap but their nozzle+hotend combo is less than half the price of these. And the K1 I've heard will let you just use Volcano-style nozzles with the bed auto leveling compensating from the slight height difference. Even if you do buy all the Creality nozzles directly from them, you can get a variety of them for less than 1 different nozzle for the 5M pro. Not a huge deal for most people, but if you're someone who likes to experiment, could be worth factoring the cost of those in. Any chance you know if this machine will be open sourced to support full klipper?
Thank you for this excellent review. I'm currently shopping for a second printer and the choices are extremely vast. This helps narrow down a few choices.
What about the stability of the bed? The rear z does have one more rod. Does it make a difference? And even more important is the bed flat? Do you have an active mesh to look at it??
Only thing that instantly comes to mind, is the annoyance of having a rear spool holder as nearly all come with now, so the first print would have to be a spool-relocation.
@@JJShankles Yeah that was my instant thought, just put one next to it, maybe print a little spool-box for it to sit in even or route it to a sunlu filadryer s2 or something like that
Bambu Lab is the one to go with, hands down. The AMS system alone makes it much more worthwhile. Yes, you have waste, but all printing with multi-color or multi-material has waste in the form of "poop" like Bambu or a tower with other systems. Bambu allows you to skip the tower completely.
With all the features in this printer, I think it is based off Klipper vs Marlin firmware. I haven't been able to access the full klipper interface, but I'm working with the engineers to figure it out. All these companies put out their own "version" of klipper usually to communicate with their custom screens. I've found the big benefit of "real" klipper is super easy updates, vs these klipper-like versions need upgrades from the companies.
In earlier versions of S3D there was no means of sending prints to the printer other than by USB, meaning it was a pain to my Creator 3 etc. My workaround was to slice in S3D, and then load into Flashprint and send it through. I dare say you would be able to do the same with Orcaslicer to save running round with Thumbdrives.
Does this have the full web interface? The 280* max temp is the biggest downside for me. I would like 300* for better printing of things like CF Nylon and similar materials that might work at 280, but do better with a bit more heat. I wonder if you was able to edit the printer config, if bumping up the max temp a bit would hurt the nozzle cartridge… Currently I am debating the P1S or the K1… Mostly the new $500 price point of the K1 is why it’s still in consideration, that and the recent full klipper release, plus the ability to use many types of nozzles is nice. The P1S I expect to just… Work without fuss. I just don’t like that it has limited offline functionality.
I haven't been able to get the online interface to work, but their engineers are on a Chinese national holiday, so I haven't received many responses from them. I'll have to do an update when I get it working. I would personally take a K1 over a P1S because of the full Klipper control, but I just like to tinker and upgrade things, and the K1 is constantly on sale.
@@JJShankles I have an Ender for tinkering… My next printer I mostly just want to work without a ton of fuss. Plus I do like the extra build volume on the Bambu… But you are right about the K1 pricing. I will keep an eye out for an update on the 5M Pro.
does this also have an internal blower fan for extra part cooling like the Creality K1 Max? Also, Qidi's new printers would have deserved a mention when it comes to comparison (even though their design is very questionalble lol)
Yes it does have a large side fan like all the other ones. I didn't include the Qidi after I was so annoyed with how annoying their software was to use, and the screen layout felt unfinished
I'm not sure if you bought it or not but I just got the non pro 5m for 299$, setup was really simple I took it out of the box, took out the foam and a few screws holding the bed down for shipping and it just works. Perfect first layer, really nice surfaces on prints, really fast and I've just used Flashprint for right now and the transfers are basically instant, if not it prints off of the usb drive perfectly but I've used my USB port for a USB webcam. It's not enclosed, however I usually don't print materials that require enclosures and in the future I plan to print the enclosure kit. One thing to note is that this isn't a machine you'd ideally like to have in the same room you're in as the movements aren't really that loud but the part cooling fan is.
You might think that when you plan to build a new printer that you start from what build volume you want, here it seems like, oops, ok, it can be 220x220 and 220 instead of the "standard" 250.
It's enclosed, it has a touch screen, it has the camera, light, and side fan already installed. It's not limited by the Bambu Cloud, it doesn't drop filament bits out the back, nozzle changes are way easier, metal vs carbon fiber rods, USB flash drives are better than the micro SD card
The biggest con: Filament on the backside! Pain in the ass to change and no chance to see how much filament is left. Can not understand why because they have other printers with better solution!
Right here is a reason to buy over the ‘big name’… 1. Flashforge accepts returns for Flashforge 3D printers within 30 days of receipt of delivery without any reasons. The Return Policy provides detailed information about options and procedures for returning Buyer's purchase.
This is just bringing all the bad things(proprietary…etc, locked out Klipper?!😂) that held printing back and were eradicated from 3d printing BACK into 3d printing… What’s next, Encoded filament?😂.. Spying on your models?😂… Does Nothing others don’t do…Faster, cheaper and more comfortably… Absolutely No reason to buy this but tons of reasons NOT to get one.. The Bamb and Creal are far better and they are older.. I would even get an upgraded ender 3 before one of those 5m’s ..
Very biased review. Its better compared to the P1S that Flashforge has basically copied. The benchy you printed from the bambu was awful, I dont know what settings you had it print at, but the benchies I print on normal speed look a billion times better. You mention in a comment somewhere that the flashforge doesnt spit filament out the back like the bambu, Bambu does only if you have the AMS! Which in itself is a game changer, You dont have to use it just for multicolour prints. It saves loads of time when just wanting to change filament. You say thumbdrive is better than sd card? Hows that? Bambu has to rely on bambu cloud, no it doesnt?! I wonder how much flashforge is paying you 😂. You youtubers 😂😂😂😂
No obviously not, but these youtubers never seem to have the facts. They seem to make it up as they go along, and possibly go along with a script. Ive had lots of Flashforge machines. They are junk in comparison with others. Customer support is also dreadful. They release a printer then seem to stop supporting it as soon as their next model comes out.
Yes but he is comparing the price, the p1s is the same as the p1p but it have a enclosure, so yeah is still fair. The print quality of all the bambulab is basicly the same (not talking about the A1)
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It's great that competition is encouraging innovation. I assume that always-on fan situation could be adjusted with a firmware update, but that build volume just doesn't cut it imo.
I am in doubt between these two printers, the Creality K1 or the Flashforge 5m Pro, which one would you recommend? Thank you.
Never had a 3D printer before. I just ordered this one and used your code. Thank you for the insight. Fingers crossed I figure this thing out haha.
This Machine is absolutely capable and amazing. I love my machine.
Hi ! Please help me !!! I need to adjust the e-step of my Flashforge 5m pro because the prints are having dimensional discrepancies.
How do I make these adjustments? And How to adjust belt tension?
Your timing is perfect! I'm looking at replacing one of our Makerbot Sketches in a middle school classroom, I've had to fix it almost daily the past few weeks. My first thought was the K1 but after seeing this, I'm definitely intrigued. Would you say the noise level of the fans are lower on the 5M or the K1? Thanks!
The 5M is quieter overall, but just has a constant noise level when on. The K1 gets much louder while printing.
The nozzle swaps on this machine are super pricey. Wish they found a way to make the quick swap work with some existing nozzle type using an adapter or such. Bambu's system isn't quick swap but their nozzle+hotend combo is less than half the price of these. And the K1 I've heard will let you just use Volcano-style nozzles with the bed auto leveling compensating from the slight height difference. Even if you do buy all the Creality nozzles directly from them, you can get a variety of them for less than 1 different nozzle for the 5M pro. Not a huge deal for most people, but if you're someone who likes to experiment, could be worth factoring the cost of those in.
Any chance you know if this machine will be open sourced to support full klipper?
Thank you for this excellent review. I'm currently shopping for a second printer and the choices are extremely vast. This helps narrow down a few choices.
What about the stability of the bed? The rear z does have one more rod. Does it make a difference? And even more important is the bed flat? Do you have an active mesh to look at it??
it does go silent now after firmware update
Only thing that instantly comes to mind, is the annoyance of having a rear spool holder as nearly all come with now, so the first print would have to be a spool-relocation.
And this one seems like the easiest one to add a side mounted spool holder because of how the PTFE tube sticks out at a good angle
@@JJShankles Yeah that was my instant thought, just put one next to it, maybe print a little spool-box for it to sit in even or route it to a sunlu filadryer s2 or something like that
What do u think between ff 5mpro and bamboolab p1s? They are both pretty new products and provide same level of performance
Bambu Lab is the one to go with, hands down. The AMS system alone makes it much more worthwhile. Yes, you have waste, but all printing with multi-color or multi-material has waste in the form of "poop" like Bambu or a tower with other systems. Bambu allows you to skip the tower completely.
Could you expand on klipper-like? What are the advantages and disadvantages of it compared to klipper?
With all the features in this printer, I think it is based off Klipper vs Marlin firmware. I haven't been able to access the full klipper interface, but I'm working with the engineers to figure it out.
All these companies put out their own "version" of klipper usually to communicate with their custom screens.
I've found the big benefit of "real" klipper is super easy updates, vs these klipper-like versions need upgrades from the companies.
If it was 300 x 300 x 300 volume i would have ordered in a heartbeat.
So true. I am getting a 5M and I would die for a bigger print volume even if it raised the price.
In earlier versions of S3D there was no means of sending prints to the printer other than by USB, meaning it was a pain to my Creator 3 etc. My workaround was to slice in S3D, and then load into Flashprint and send it through. I dare say you would be able to do the same with Orcaslicer to save running round with Thumbdrives.
Does this have the full web interface?
The 280* max temp is the biggest downside for me. I would like 300* for better printing of things like CF Nylon and similar materials that might work at 280, but do better with a bit more heat.
I wonder if you was able to edit the printer config, if bumping up the max temp a bit would hurt the nozzle cartridge…
Currently I am debating the P1S or the K1… Mostly the new $500 price point of the K1 is why it’s still in consideration, that and the recent full klipper release, plus the ability to use many types of nozzles is nice.
The P1S I expect to just… Work without fuss. I just don’t like that it has limited offline functionality.
I haven't been able to get the online interface to work, but their engineers are on a Chinese national holiday, so I haven't received many responses from them. I'll have to do an update when I get it working.
I would personally take a K1 over a P1S because of the full Klipper control, but I just like to tinker and upgrade things, and the K1 is constantly on sale.
@@JJShankles I have an Ender for tinkering… My next printer I mostly just want to work without a ton of fuss.
Plus I do like the extra build volume on the Bambu…
But you are right about the K1 pricing.
I will keep an eye out for an update on the 5M Pro.
does this also have an internal blower fan for extra part cooling like the Creality K1 Max? Also, Qidi's new printers would have deserved a mention when it comes to comparison (even though their design is very questionalble lol)
Yes it does have a large side fan like all the other ones. I didn't include the Qidi after I was so annoyed with how annoying their software was to use, and the screen layout felt unfinished
What happened to orcaslicer's wifi support?
I don’t need enclosed for my use and the 5m non pro is very enticing, I need a quick printer thats decent and not huge not small
I think the non-pro will be an amazing printer for most people
I'm not sure if you bought it or not but I just got the non pro 5m for 299$, setup was really simple I took it out of the box, took out the foam and a few screws holding the bed down for shipping and it just works. Perfect first layer, really nice surfaces on prints, really fast and I've just used Flashprint for right now and the transfers are basically instant, if not it prints off of the usb drive perfectly but I've used my USB port for a USB webcam. It's not enclosed, however I usually don't print materials that require enclosures and in the future I plan to print the enclosure kit. One thing to note is that this isn't a machine you'd ideally like to have in the same room you're in as the movements aren't really that loud but the part cooling fan is.
It's an absolute steal for 299 especially since the p1p and k1 start around the 500 ish
It's on Amazon for 299^ (forgot to mention)
@@EthanTrevino-ov9rp oh I bought a k1 for $300
lack of info u giving out about the prints of the 5M. somethings like print speeds and time it finished.
The main issue I have with this printer is the hotend replacements. £40 to change to a different nozzle size is insane
You might think that when you plan to build a new printer that you start from what build volume you want, here it seems like, oops, ok, it can be 220x220 and 220 instead of the "standard" 250.
220x220 has been the standard Ender 3 size for years now. So many printers use this size bed
@@JJShankles 250 on z axis ,220 is odd.
Looks decent, but odd that they gave no serious compelling reason to pick it over the Bambu P1p. Feels like a “me too” product.
It's enclosed, it has a touch screen, it has the camera, light, and side fan already installed. It's not limited by the Bambu Cloud, it doesn't drop filament bits out the back, nozzle changes are way easier, metal vs carbon fiber rods, USB flash drives are better than the micro SD card
Bambu is better
@@JJShanklesHow is it compared to the P1S print-quality-wise?
@@mosemaskinenaurora tech has a pretty in depth review and comparison, I'd check it out
The biggest con:
Filament on the backside!
Pain in the ass to change and no chance to see how much filament is left.
Can not understand why because they have other printers with better solution!
Right here is a reason to buy over the ‘big name’…
1. Flashforge accepts returns for Flashforge 3D printers within 30 days of receipt of delivery without any reasons. The Return Policy provides detailed information about options and procedures for returning Buyer's purchase.
The normal 5m non pro is 299 on Amazon right now and I absolutely love mine
$599 no AMS or Bambu with AMS compatible... Need to price this around $499
too bad u didnt do speed test of 3 of them
Klipper like? Like? So, not Klipper.
You really chose such a textured filament to test a printer? Boy, it is actually a sponsored video 😂
bro can you give me mini 13?
closed source, not compelling price, Creality K1s are going to outsell these 5:1
This is just bringing all the bad things(proprietary…etc, locked out Klipper?!😂) that held printing back and were eradicated from 3d printing BACK into 3d printing…
What’s next, Encoded filament?😂.. Spying on your models?😂…
Does Nothing others don’t do…Faster, cheaper and more comfortably…
Absolutely No reason to buy this but tons of reasons NOT to get one..
The Bamb and Creal are far better and they are older..
I would even get an upgraded ender 3 before one of those 5m’s
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How could you do an entire review and not mention one of the best features on the entire printer?
AN ACTUAL USB PORT
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Very biased review. Its better compared to the P1S that Flashforge has basically copied. The benchy you printed from the bambu was awful, I dont know what settings you had it print at, but the benchies I print on normal speed look a billion times better. You mention in a comment somewhere that the flashforge doesnt spit filament out the back like the bambu, Bambu does only if you have the AMS! Which in itself is a game changer, You dont have to use it just for multicolour prints. It saves loads of time when just wanting to change filament. You say thumbdrive is better than sd card? Hows that? Bambu has to rely on bambu cloud, no it doesnt?! I wonder how much flashforge is paying you 😂. You youtubers 😂😂😂😂
Wow, you really took this review personally.... Did you design the Bambu printer?
No obviously not, but these youtubers never seem to have the facts. They seem to make it up as they go along, and possibly go along with a script. Ive had lots of Flashforge machines. They are junk in comparison with others. Customer support is also dreadful. They release a printer then seem to stop supporting it as soon as their next model comes out.
@@Soljarag5he might have
Didn’t the 5M pro drop before the P1S?
The P1P, P1S and X1 all came well before the 5M.
I would have been more interested in how it works and how loud it actually is. Your video is uninteresting.
So he’s comparing Flashforge’s best 3d printer, with creality’s best fast printer, and comping that with bakbulab’s midrange model?
Yes but he is comparing the price, the p1s is the same as the p1p but it have a enclosure, so yeah is still fair. The print quality of all the bambulab is basicly the same (not talking about the A1)