Like you, my first foray in heritage service boots was the Thursday Captains. Gotta agree with everything you said. I've since bought a few Grant Stones. While the Captains do not compare well against Grant Stone, they're still fantastic boots and I still wear them. Cheers!
Thank You for sharing! I've bought 3 pairs from Thursday the captain, the diplomat, and the rogue and can never get my size right. Maybe I'll give them another go.
Thursday makes boots both sufficient unto themselves---solid builds, good materials, excellent service---and as gateway to further explorations as well as superior (and far most costly) makers. What I like about their models is that the aesthetic also provides such an easy, wearable beginning. Journey on and the next thing you know you're on to Viberg...
People forget that rubber midsoles or leather midsoles also break down. As do leather footbeds that rot from sweat. And leather heel stacks break down, especially if regularly exposed to water. You only need to watch the numerous cobbler and re-soling videos to realise that midsoles are replaced frequently when re-soling regardless of material. So, for me, this "poron breaks down" thing is completely overblown. In fact. the poron midsole with these boots is likely to last just as long as a standard leather midsole. Foams like poron were developed to extend the life of regular EVA. For info, when Trenton & heath broke down a pair of these exact same boots in one of their earlier videos, the boots had a leather midsole as well as the poron one. That might have changed of course. The EVA strip in the footbed is probably the most vulnerable part as regular EVA has a shorter lifespan (though complaints about that all seem to be quite a long time ago ). However, watch a lot of re-soling videos from cobblers and see the state of so many leather footbeds after exposure to sweaty feet day after day and you realise whatever you use in contact with your feet is going to break down after time given the right conditions. I've seen several cobblers mention that this causes the premature death of many Red Wing boots.
I bought a Thursday boot about 6-8 years ago, taft boats too. The leather wrinkled up fairly poorly and some speed hooks ripped out in less than 6 months. I ended up tossing them within a year. Never looked back.
Have those exact same Thursdays and love them! They actually have seen some rocky trails up in Washington State where I wore them for over a week straight. Absolutely love them. I’ve also worn a pair of their Scout Chukkas 5 days a week for two years and they’re just now getting worn out in the heels. Thursdays also tend to just fit my feet well so I’m a loyal customer. With all that said I look forward to getting a pair of Iron Rangers someday.
Like many others here and yourself, Thursday was also my first pair of boots other than Worx/Red Wing and Danner. Captain in black (IIRC I backed them on Kickstarter), Stomper in black and Legend in tobacco (I have a couple pairs of Beckett Simonon chelseas so tried these). I'm 11.5 D/E ish and went true to size on the Stompers and Captains and they're just fine but should've went down a size on the Legends. The lining makes them really easy to slip on, unlike my White's moc toes or Nick's Tacticals. The zipper failed on my Stompers and after an email, I got a replacement pair. For the price point they're a good boot and they're my go-to when I need another pair of boot trees.
I have a Captain and Vanguard but wish they would have a last that leans more work aesthetic. The almond toe is really aggressive compared to a Grant Stone or Parkhurst and leans very dressy. Something a bit more masculine in their rotation for a service boot would do well I believe.
I now only have a pair of Thursday President. Just under a year old, had heel pads replaced 6 months in and now looking at a resole. I am looking to add some red wings into the mix but torn between a blacksmith CRP or Muleskinner Iron Ranger (sadly they don’t do the Merchants anymore). Unfortunately in the UK we end up paying a premium for importing boots that then make then extortionate, so for me grant stone aren’t even a consideration.
Good old Thursday boots. If we’re honest with ourselves, they are all the boot we ever need. We might want the indestructible Pacific Northwest boots, but who really ‘needs’ them. Not many I’m sure. But we all like to dress up like tough guys sometimes I guess.
But of course who needs 100 or more pair of boots to begin with? Just find one pair you like that looks nice and go with that. People like to collect over 200 stuff by spending a ridiculous amount of money even $100,000 on a pair of shoes. My god what is wrong with the world I always ask myself.
@@jonathan19947 nothing wrong, jonathan. People just spend their own money the way they want to. I myself limit my collection to 3 boots, each has its own specific role.
the only thing i dont like about the boots is that the insoles are not removable. I have a pair of dress shoes from Thursday and the pouron disintegrated. I will need to buy an insert or have a leather insole put in by a cobbler.
As someone who also lives in Perth, I'm interested in how you manage to wear boots all year round. Do you wear jeans/pants on 35+ degree days, or shorts sometimes? I find my Red Wings too warm at times but I'd prefer to wear them year-round if I can work out how!
I am torn between the Thursday Captain Brown boots vs. the Grant Stone Crimson Cap Toe boots. Is the 2x price tag worth it for the Grant Stones? I am trying to justify it, being that it will be my first boot.
@@Bootlosophy Thanks for the reply! I am getting them to wear to my new job, to pair with a business casual (chino & button up) outfit. I used to have a lot of sneakers, but I can see myself leaning more towards a nice collection of boots now.
While im not a fan of the brand, those are meant to be a good value and i think they nail it. They do look really good. They dont aim to be the best or the cheapest. Since this is a private comment and totally not public, i think purists in every niche need to get over themselves. Sure leather is going to form and hold up better, but they aren’t really priced to be made up of the finest left handed cage free veg tanned leathers. Same as goodyear welts. Boots have existed just fine without them. Old man rant over, now where did i leave my teeth.
I ordered a pair of R&R last week, and I hope to try them out soon (EU citizen). Ideally, they will be my goto boot for park walks in the midst of fall and winter. They will be my first service boots (I do own Chelsea and chukka boots already). Thanks for the video. It played a great part in my choice.
You must really baby your boots. That's looking good for the age. I like my captains just fine, but yes, once you "discover" higher-end brands, it's hard to go back.
Best $199 boots on the market, no doubt, and I love the looks of many of them..and you get a good value for money in most cases. I do have one-pair of Diplomas (which I do like) but I can tell the right insole is slightly wonky (lumpy). I use an insert, but I can always feel an issue with the shim. Anyway, to me, they're on-par with Helm Boots (which I would buy on sale for the $230-$250 price range), but I haven't determined which of the two brands I actually prefer. But yeah...once you move-up to Grant Stone level...you can just tell the different. Is it worth the price eifference? To me, absolutely! Cheers.
For me, I place a lot of weight on cost per wear, so the Grant Stone would have to last me twice as long. I sure am curious though...and I think they potentially could with enough resoles...
The insole is glued in and tears easily if you start pulling it out. My pair of presidents had the foam start to breakdown after 6 months and have been happier with leather insoles from my other boots i have. Hopefully the foam will break down enough that i could pull them out and scrape the residue eventually, but that will take a while since i have rotation of several boots now.
Great boot! Even better company. Avoid the womens boots though ladies. Seen several pairs fail at diffwrent points. Not as good quality as the mens unfortunately. All five pairs of the mens boots I have been wearing for a while now are all very nice, very comfy. Love your videos!
Well Thursday Captain with Storm King sole was not so long lived. I go them pretty wet riding my motorcycle. After that the right boot sole started to separate and the welt threads on the inside heel to toe broke. They are five years old but used mostly on motorcycle. Thursday gave me $50 store credit. I poured a large amount of contact cement and will hope for the best. I will not buy there boots again as my taste has gone significantly up market, Viber, Wesco , Nicks, my wife thinks I am nuts.
Yeah heel counter over time it's like there's nothing there just soft leather unless they changed it .then it's a very thin one I've had mine almost two years now and they are in pretty good shape but they sag bc there's no heel counter. Even for $200 they should do that . All in all I do like the boots though I have a pair of captains @@Bootlosophy
Hey Teik (sorry if spelling is off), Just an FYI I do not believe the classic leathers with the EVA midsole have a steel shank. Feel free to check on their website even now and you'll notice no mention of a steel shank for the models with that EVA midsole. I think I've also seen a cobbler take apart a Thursday Captain with the EVA midsole and saw that there was no steel shank. So I'm reasonably confident there isn't one in your classic leather model either. Some models of the President boot by Thursday do have steel shanks even in a 'classic' leather. However you'll see that these models also have a leather midsole (I have Presidents in dark coffee for example and can confirm I see a leather midsole).
How lucky we are that you happened on to that pair of Captains, and on to a passion you readily and adeptly have chosen to share through TH-cam.
Like you, my first foray in heritage service boots was the Thursday Captains. Gotta agree with everything you said. I've since bought a few Grant Stones. While the Captains do not compare well against Grant Stone, they're still fantastic boots and I still wear them.
Cheers!
My brandy captains are supposed to arrive today! Love your videos sir.
@@AlexBrown-vp5yg I hope you like them!
Thank You for sharing! I've bought 3 pairs from Thursday the captain, the diplomat, and the rogue and can never get my size right. Maybe I'll give them another go.
Thursday makes boots both sufficient unto themselves---solid builds, good materials, excellent service---and as gateway to further explorations as well as superior (and far most costly) makers. What I like about their models is that the aesthetic also provides such an easy, wearable beginning. Journey on and the next thing you know you're on to Viberg...
I too started with Thursdays, however I liked the President a LOT more than the captain. Just overall better for me
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Thursday are sold on Amazon. Much easier to return if you don't like them.
People forget that rubber midsoles or leather midsoles also break down. As do leather footbeds that rot from sweat. And leather heel stacks break down, especially if regularly exposed to water.
You only need to watch the numerous cobbler and re-soling videos to realise that midsoles are replaced frequently when re-soling regardless of material.
So, for me, this "poron breaks down" thing is completely overblown. In fact. the poron midsole with these boots is likely to last just as long as a standard leather midsole. Foams like poron were developed to extend the life of regular EVA.
For info, when Trenton & heath broke down a pair of these exact same boots in one of their earlier videos, the boots had a leather midsole as well as the poron one. That might have changed of course.
The EVA strip in the footbed is probably the most vulnerable part as regular EVA has a shorter lifespan (though complaints about that all seem to be quite a long time ago ). However, watch a lot of re-soling videos from cobblers and see the state of so many leather footbeds after exposure to sweaty feet day after day and you realise whatever you use in contact with your feet is going to break down after time given the right conditions. I've seen several cobblers mention that this causes the premature death of many Red Wing boots.
I bought a Thursday boot about 6-8 years ago, taft boats too. The leather wrinkled up fairly poorly and some speed hooks ripped out in less than 6 months. I ended up tossing them within a year. Never looked back.
I wear mine two to three days a week for the past two years, they are holding up very well.
Have those exact same Thursdays and love them! They actually have seen some rocky trails up in Washington State where I wore them for over a week straight. Absolutely love them. I’ve also worn a pair of their Scout Chukkas 5 days a week for two years and they’re just now getting worn out in the heels. Thursdays also tend to just fit my feet well so I’m a loyal customer. With all that said I look forward to getting a pair of Iron Rangers someday.
Like many others here and yourself, Thursday was also my first pair of boots other than Worx/Red Wing and Danner. Captain in black (IIRC I backed them on Kickstarter), Stomper in black and Legend in tobacco (I have a couple pairs of Beckett Simonon chelseas so tried these). I'm 11.5 D/E ish and went true to size on the Stompers and Captains and they're just fine but should've went down a size on the Legends. The lining makes them really easy to slip on, unlike my White's moc toes or Nick's Tacticals.
The zipper failed on my Stompers and after an email, I got a replacement pair. For the price point they're a good boot and they're my go-to when I need another pair of boot trees.
I have a Captain and Vanguard but wish they would have a last that leans more work aesthetic. The almond toe is really aggressive compared to a Grant Stone or Parkhurst and leans very dressy. Something a bit more masculine in their rotation for a service boot would do well I believe.
@@xF1revolution take a look at the Hero
I now only have a pair of Thursday President. Just under a year old, had heel pads replaced 6 months in and now looking at a resole. I am looking to add some red wings into the mix but torn between a blacksmith CRP or Muleskinner Iron Ranger (sadly they don’t do the Merchants anymore). Unfortunately in the UK we end up paying a premium for importing boots that then make then extortionate, so for me grant stone aren’t even a consideration.
Great to see you still have the time to think about your Thursdays haha!
Hsve you thought about acquiring more feet to be able to rotate the boots quicker?
😂😂😂😂😂😂 That's the dream!
That would be quite a feet...
I'll let myself out...
Good old Thursday boots. If we’re honest with ourselves, they are all the boot we ever need. We might want the indestructible Pacific Northwest boots, but who really ‘needs’ them. Not many I’m sure.
But we all like to dress up like tough guys sometimes I guess.
But of course who needs 100 or more pair of boots to begin with? Just find one pair you like that looks nice and go with that. People like to collect over 200 stuff by spending a ridiculous amount of money even $100,000 on a pair of shoes. My god what is wrong with the world I always ask myself.
@@jonathan19947 nothing wrong, jonathan. People just spend their own money the way they want to. I myself limit my collection to 3 boots, each has its own specific role.
the only thing i dont like about the boots is that the insoles are not removable. I have a pair of dress shoes from Thursday and the pouron disintegrated. I will need to buy an insert or have a leather insole put in by a cobbler.
I wonder what are the favorite heritage boots of the Whadjuk people? 🤔
I call them my band of brothers boots lol
As someone who also lives in Perth, I'm interested in how you manage to wear boots all year round. Do you wear jeans/pants on 35+ degree days, or shorts sometimes? I find my Red Wings too warm at times but I'd prefer to wear them year-round if I can work out how!
@@oscarl-b8870 because of my work pants 80% of the time
I am torn between the Thursday Captain Brown boots vs. the Grant Stone Crimson Cap Toe boots. Is the 2x price tag worth it for the Grant Stones? I am trying to justify it, being that it will be my first boot.
@@King_Kato in the long run, yes. As a wear now but don’t worry about later boot, take the Thursday and ease yourself into boots
@@Bootlosophy Thanks for the reply! I am getting them to wear to my new job, to pair with a business casual (chino & button up) outfit. I used to have a lot of sneakers, but I can see myself leaning more towards a nice collection of boots now.
Their danite sole didnt last for me!! i had rogue boots on wet concrete kitchen. 3 months they lasted.
@@rogerr.8507 their QC does seem inconsistent.
While im not a fan of the brand, those are meant to be a good value and i think they nail it. They do look really good. They dont aim to be the best or the cheapest.
Since this is a private comment and totally not public, i think purists in every niche need to get over themselves. Sure leather is going to form and hold up better, but they aren’t really priced to be made up of the finest left handed cage free veg tanned leathers. Same as goodyear welts. Boots have existed just fine without them. Old man rant over, now where did i leave my teeth.
you have so many boots, its hard to say you have 4 years of wear on them though :/
@@hubbiemid6209 true!
I ordered a pair of R&R last week, and I hope to try them out soon (EU citizen). Ideally, they will be my goto boot for park walks in the midst of fall and winter. They will be my first service boots (I do own Chelsea and chukka boots already).
Thanks for the video. It played a great part in my choice.
You must really baby your boots. That's looking good for the age. I like my captains just fine, but yes, once you "discover" higher-end brands, it's hard to go back.
@@DT-vc7hd brush after every wear, clean with a damp rag after every 10, condition twice a year!
Best $199 boots on the market, no doubt, and I love the looks of many of them..and you get a good value for money in most cases. I do have one-pair of Diplomas (which I do like) but I can tell the right insole is slightly wonky (lumpy). I use an insert, but I can always feel an issue with the shim. Anyway, to me, they're on-par with Helm Boots (which I would buy on sale for the $230-$250 price range), but I haven't determined which of the two brands I actually prefer. But yeah...once you move-up to Grant Stone level...you can just tell the different. Is it worth the price eifference? To me, absolutely! Cheers.
For me, I place a lot of weight on cost per wear, so the Grant Stone would have to last me twice as long. I sure am curious though...and I think they potentially could with enough resoles...
Once the poron breaks down why not just replace it?
@@Al_lan as it’s in the sole construction inside it can be done but expensive. Not like replacing an outsole.
The insole is glued in and tears easily if you start pulling it out. My pair of presidents had the foam start to breakdown after 6 months and have been happier with leather insoles from my other boots i have. Hopefully the foam will break down enough that i could pull them out and scrape the residue eventually, but that will take a while since i have rotation of several boots now.
Great boot! Even better company. Avoid the womens boots though ladies. Seen several pairs fail at diffwrent points. Not as good quality as the mens unfortunately. All five pairs of the mens boots I have been wearing for a while now are all very nice, very comfy. Love your videos!
Well Thursday Captain with Storm King sole was not so long lived. I go them pretty wet riding my motorcycle. After that the right boot sole started to separate and the welt threads on the inside heel to toe broke. They are five years old but used mostly on motorcycle. Thursday gave me $50 store credit. I poured a large amount of contact cement and will hope for the best. I will not buy there boots again as my taste has gone significantly up market, Viber, Wesco , Nicks, my wife thinks I am nuts.
@@stephenbaron5681 to be fair, these Captains have only been worn going to the office and around town, not on a motorbike or doing manual work.
Thursday Boots are not fit for motorcycles. Only fit for riding a chair behind a desk.
How come no one talks about how there's no counter heel in them
@@smiley-qb3nt counter heel? If you mean heel counter there’s a thin thermoplastic one.
Yeah heel counter over time it's like there's nothing there just soft leather unless they changed it .then it's a very thin one I've had mine almost two years now and they are in pretty good shape but they sag bc there's no heel counter. Even for $200 they should do that . All in all I do like the boots though I have a pair of captains @@Bootlosophy
Hey Teik (sorry if spelling is off),
Just an FYI I do not believe the classic leathers with the EVA midsole have a steel shank. Feel free to check on their website even now and you'll notice no mention of a steel shank for the models with that EVA midsole. I think I've also seen a cobbler take apart a Thursday Captain with the EVA midsole and saw that there was no steel shank. So I'm reasonably confident there isn't one in your classic leather model either.
Some models of the President boot by Thursday do have steel shanks even in a 'classic' leather. However you'll see that these models also have a leather midsole (I have Presidents in dark coffee for example and can confirm I see a leather midsole).