Awesome thanks. I have presidents in tobacco there pretty rugged. I love them I put them through the ringer I use them at work every day at home Depot I wore them in winter even though I definitely abuse them more than I should but no cracks or anything thing in sole .and I haven't really taken care of them with conditioning or anything . But they are definitely great quality. I'm gonna get a the pair you have. One thing with mine though it discolors my socks bluish you had that problem? I called the company and said they would replace them and I said I wanted captains so there going to send a pair for free! The customer service is also great .
I’m not sure I’d send my boots to a cobbler who is upselling a new welt when the whole purpose of a GYW is to make it easier to resole. I wonder what he says to customers who are not on camera. His sales pitch wasn’t that good and to me it seemed like it was the first time he actually told a customer that he didn’t need it but that aesthetically it might turn out better. I bet he often says it’s needed and doesn’t make the aesthetic argument. Watch Trenton and Heath from Potter and sons. You never see them selling new GYW, especially not on shoes that haven’t been recrafted yet.
Does it cost as much as a new pair? Yeah. Worth it? I’d argue yes. It seems counterintuitive but think. You’re getting new soles, new welts, a real danite sole, leather heel, and the uppers are already broken in and it fit to your foot. They have the “stories” with them. $200 sure you get a new pair but you’re back to square one. Why is a new pair of captains better than an upgraded pair that’s broken in? From my outside perspective, someone just getting into the game, that’s how I see it.
To do a full resole like that, it prob costs $180 - $200. It's worth it when you have an expensive pair of shoes / boots. Also you eliminate waste. But it's hard to justify a resole on $200 Thursday boots.
Hand welted footwear is constructed differently from Goodyear welted footwear. Because the welt was hand sewn to this Thursday boot does not mean it is the same as hand welted footwear which usually has channel called a holdfast and a much thicker insole.
Dope video! love Wyatt & Dad. Gonna be a little pedantic here, but these boots are not being handwelted, it's just getting a handstitched welt. Thursdays has canvas gemming that the welt is attached to, so it is a good year welted boot. For a boot to be "handwelted" it would mean that it has a thick leather insole, that then gets a channel carved into it where the welt is attached to. Basically, as long as the welt is attached through canvas, it's a goodyear welt. This boot is just getting the welt handstitched to the gemming. For the boot to be handwelted, the insole would have to be replaced with some very thick leather
Goodyear welting is named after Charles Goodyear Jr, the guy who invented the machine that does it. Gemming is often a part of Goodyear welting, but not always. For example, Viberg's Goodyear welted line has the welt sewn into a leather channel on the insole. That doesn't mean Viberg boots are 'hand welted', because the stitching is still performed by a Goodyear welt machine; it just means they're Goodyear welted boots with a leather holdfast. Similarly, a welt stitched by hand onto canvas gemming is still 'hand-welted', because the welting wasn't done with a Goodyear welt machine; and it's the machine the construction method is named for.
@@JimKiralfy Yes, it was named after that, but goodyear welt and hand welt are different construction methods. You cannot turn a Goodyear welt into a handwelt without replacing the insole. Now a days, there are two types of Goodyear welts. Vibergs are produced with a channeled insole Goodyear welt, which is how Goodyear welted shoes were made decades ago. Nowadays, most GYW shoes are made with a canvas gemming that the welt is attached to. Hand welting is a superior construction that is much harder to do. From first world countries, you will only find handwelts in the most expensive, highest quality shoes. Even Gaziano & Girling or Edward Green RTW is canvas ribbed GYW. You have to go bespoke with them to get a handwelt. Hand welt requires tons of hand work that is way to innefficient for most factories, where a craftsman carves out a hold fast out of a thick insole completely by hand. Once the hold fast is made; the welt is then attached to it. For any of the 3 described construction methods, the way the welt is sewn makes no difference. A hand welt can have the welt machine sewn, it is still a hand welt. A GYW can have the welt hand sewn, it is still a GYW. The distinction between the constructions is what the welt is getting attached to. Because the welt in this video is still getting attached to a canvas rib, it remains a goodyearwelt construction
This is an awesome video; one of the best TH-cam videos out there. Not only interesting but so educational. I watched the whole video carefully and it really made me appreciate the Thursday boot and even more so, the handiwork that Wyatt and Dad Cobbler provide. Having personally seen the end result, I gotta say the boots look better than new. Great job BootSpy!
This will be the debate I’ll have when mine are due for resoling. Resole or new boots? If the leather looks better and more comfortable than when they were new, it may be worth paying top dollar to resole and get even better soles than buying new Thursdays. I’ll see when I get there. If nothing else, it’s nice knowing I will have that option.
I don't usually sub to anyone I watch on YT but I had to sub with you today. Your content is fire! Thanks for sharing! This video is awesome because I'm in the process of getting a pair of Thursday President boots so this video is awesome!
This is interesting. Kinda imagine most people with these boots don't end up resoling them or go through a far less extensive (and I imagine expensive) resole. Wouldn't be surprised if this resole would have cost close to the same as the boot. That being said it's basically improved now from the original.
This was an amazing video. Not only helped me know detail on how Thursday Boots are made and I’ve decide to get a pair, but also knowing I will have a quality shop to send my boots in the future for restoration down the road. Thanks for making this video
I’ve got these Thursday Boots. Captains in Brown. I love the fact that we can get then resoled. This is one of the many reasons I went with Thursday Boots. The selection, the craftsmanship, the re-crafting , and the quality for the price. Cheers
The look of those Captains boots after is way better. But I wonder how much such a resole cost. Hand stitching is hard work, and those Captains boots aren't that expensive.
Love the insight into cobbler work! I'm just dipping my feet, quite literally, into these resolable boots and find myself just carried away by the cool shit here. I'm a tinkerer so this stuff excites me!
Crazy cool!!! I learned so much from this presentation. Tips to help me with future purchases. Tips for when it comes time for a resole. Just an all around informative, and fantastic presentation. Folks....support your local craftsmen. These trades and techniques are time-tested, and proven methods of quality construction, that deserve our respect, implementation, and support. Support your local cobbler. Support your local watchmaker. Support your local tailor or seamstress. To quote Carl Murawski, "buy less, and buy better." BootSpy, please keep up the great work. All the best....cheers🥃
Very good video. Watching a novice along side a pro really highlights the craftsmanship, efficiency ,and experience of a cobbler. I also have an even greater respect for Thursday Boot Company. No ugly surprises hiding inside the boots construction. Actually, the opposite, with discovering it’s reinforced shank area. I just wish they didn’t build their boots so darn narrow. Even in Wide I have to size up, which becomes an awkward length with it’s pointed toe. Love the work and videos of Wyatt and Dad. My Iron Rangers will be traveling there within the next few months.
Needed this video, I’ve abused my Thursday boots like hell. It’s definitely informative to see how the construction/process of the year welts work. Will be taking these boots to a cobbler soon! 🤘🏼👣
My Captains after 1 year of wear looked way worse than those and I took good care of them. The undersole started coming off after a month, the stiching broke after 6-7 months and the uppers started coming apart. Thursday said that this is usual wear and tear and it's normal. I dont really understand why people still fall for that marketing scam and get those shitty boots.
The younger guy sold him on a new welt bc of the holes. But the old guy hand welted for the same reason. Couldn't the old guy "reuse" the holes on the old welt?
@@davidcoleman2796 Probably equal to or more than buying a new pair. The outsoles on those Thursdays did not look worn out to me. Clean and condition the uppers and boots and shoes will look great and last a long time. When the outsoles wear out on moderate priced footwear, money is better spent on a new pair. By that time, the interiors will have significant wear as well.
Hello! I really enjoy your content. I live in India and don’t have any cobbler who can resole my boots and shoes. I have over 15 pairs of boots including redwing and Thursday. Can these guys offer their services if I would ship my boots to their location? That will be a great help
Look up Blk Bird Shoemaker, based out of Agra. They may be willing to resole your boots. I'm sure Wyatt & Dad would do a great job, but the shipping cost would be crazy
I know you are a boot channel, would love to see a video of your thoughts on belts to pair with a variety of boots. I'm thinking I'm not the only one that would be interested, upvote if you agree! As always, enjoy the content, this one was very cool.
Two cool brands worth checking out for belts are Pigeon Tree Crafting and Nobleman's Apothecary, beautiful, handmade and of a variety of constantly rotating leathers.
That looks very nice with the natural colored midsole and the leather heel stack. Contrast is very nice with a darker leather upper and a black sole. 10/10, if I had a pair of Thursdays, I would do that when they need new soles.
Had a cobbler tell me he had no room to re-stitch because not enough material from goodyear welt to stitch on sides from being too narrow than the rest of the welt surface area. This should never be the case since you have to be able to get the machine on the stitching area to stay in place;and also I didn't get enough wear from the sole before it cracked on the middle corner.
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Awesome video, so happy to see your Captains given new life🔥🔥
Thanks!
That “feel” and “skill” is what comes after years of perfecting one’s craft… you might call it, craftsmanship.
The main thing I don't like about my Captain boots is the rubber midsole.. How noticeable is the leather midsole now that you've had them for a while?
What color are the captains on this video beautiful pair of boots
these are the standard thursday chrome brown
Awesome thanks. I have presidents in tobacco there pretty rugged. I love them I put them through the ringer I use them at work every day at home Depot I wore them in winter even though I definitely abuse them more than I should but no cracks or anything thing in sole .and I haven't really taken care of them with conditioning or anything . But they are definitely great quality. I'm gonna get a the pair you have. One thing with mine though it discolors my socks bluish you had that problem? I called the company and said they would replace them and I said I wanted captains so there going to send a pair for free! The customer service is also great .
This is after 6 months
Thursday boots are not worth this effort.
Goodyear Welted: Easier to resole.
Cobbler: Let’s replace the welt.
He bit the upsell spiel quick 🤣🤣🤣 new welt just means additional cost to the customer
@@retrospectiveparty exactly! Re welts are so expensive.
@@retrospectiveparty He probably did it for the video as much as anything, show the entire process.
I’m not sure I’d send my boots to a cobbler who is upselling a new welt when the whole purpose of a GYW is to make it easier to resole. I wonder what he says to customers who are not on camera. His sales pitch wasn’t that good and to me it seemed like it was the first time he actually told a customer that he didn’t need it but that aesthetically it might turn out better. I bet he often says it’s needed and doesn’t make the aesthetic argument. Watch Trenton and Heath from Potter and sons. You never see them selling new GYW, especially not on shoes that haven’t been recrafted yet.
His 5 years are what mine look like after 9 months and already had to have a new heel pad too 😅
Does it cost as much as a new pair? Yeah. Worth it? I’d argue yes. It seems counterintuitive but think. You’re getting new soles, new welts, a real danite sole, leather heel, and the uppers are already broken in and it fit to your foot. They have the “stories” with them. $200 sure you get a new pair but you’re back to square one. Why is a new pair of captains better than an upgraded pair that’s broken in? From my outside perspective, someone just getting into the game, that’s how I see it.
how much does a service like this cost? and how can you tell if a local shop will take as much care and effort as these folks?
To do a full resole like that, it prob costs $180 - $200. It's worth it when you have an expensive pair of shoes / boots. Also you eliminate waste. But it's hard to justify a resole on $200 Thursday boots.
This was cool. It's always a pleasure watching a skilled craftsman applying his trade.
Yo, bro upsold the lights out of that new welt 😂
He tries to push new welts because it costs more.
Hand welted footwear is constructed differently from Goodyear welted footwear. Because the welt was hand sewn to this Thursday boot does not mean it is the same as hand welted footwear which usually has channel called a holdfast and a much thicker insole.
Dope video! love Wyatt & Dad. Gonna be a little pedantic here, but these boots are not being handwelted, it's just getting a handstitched welt. Thursdays has canvas gemming that the welt is attached to, so it is a good year welted boot. For a boot to be "handwelted" it would mean that it has a thick leather insole, that then gets a channel carved into it where the welt is attached to.
Basically, as long as the welt is attached through canvas, it's a goodyear welt. This boot is just getting the welt handstitched to the gemming. For the boot to be handwelted, the insole would have to be replaced with some very thick leather
Goodyear welting is named after Charles Goodyear Jr, the guy who invented the machine that does it. Gemming is often a part of Goodyear welting, but not always.
For example, Viberg's Goodyear welted line has the welt sewn into a leather channel on the insole. That doesn't mean Viberg boots are 'hand welted', because the stitching is still performed by a Goodyear welt machine; it just means they're Goodyear welted boots with a leather holdfast.
Similarly, a welt stitched by hand onto canvas gemming is still 'hand-welted', because the welting wasn't done with a Goodyear welt machine; and it's the machine the construction method is named for.
@@JimKiralfy Yes, it was named after that, but goodyear welt and hand welt are different construction methods. You cannot turn a Goodyear welt into a handwelt without replacing the insole. Now a days, there are two types of Goodyear welts. Vibergs are produced with a channeled insole Goodyear welt, which is how Goodyear welted shoes were made decades ago. Nowadays, most GYW shoes are made with a canvas gemming that the welt is attached to.
Hand welting is a superior construction that is much harder to do. From first world countries, you will only find handwelts in the most expensive, highest quality shoes. Even Gaziano & Girling or Edward Green RTW is canvas ribbed GYW. You have to go bespoke with them to get a handwelt. Hand welt requires tons of hand work that is way to innefficient for most factories, where a craftsman carves out a hold fast out of a thick insole completely by hand. Once the hold fast is made; the welt is then attached to it.
For any of the 3 described construction methods, the way the welt is sewn makes no difference. A hand welt can have the welt machine sewn, it is still a hand welt. A GYW can have the welt hand sewn, it is still a GYW. The distinction between the constructions is what the welt is getting attached to. Because the welt in this video is still getting attached to a canvas rib, it remains a goodyearwelt construction
@@iftcar2950 "A hand welt can have the welt machine sewn, it is still a hand welt."
Can you give an example of this?
This is an awesome video; one of the best TH-cam videos out there. Not only interesting but so educational. I watched the whole video carefully and it really made me appreciate the Thursday boot and even more so, the handiwork that Wyatt and Dad Cobbler provide. Having personally seen the end result, I gotta say the boots look better than new.
Great job BootSpy!
That had to be an amazing experience. Looked fun, but also challenging.
This will be the debate I’ll have when mine are due for resoling. Resole or new boots? If the leather looks better and more comfortable than when they were new, it may be worth paying top dollar to resole and get even better soles than buying new Thursdays. I’ll see when I get there. If nothing else, it’s nice knowing I will have that option.
I have the same boots . Mine are only 2 years old and still look new . I had to replace the heal caps . They are good boots for the money.
I don't usually sub to anyone I watch on YT but I had to sub with you today. Your content is fire! Thanks for sharing! This video is awesome because I'm in the process of getting a pair of Thursday President boots so this video is awesome!
Couldn't you just buy new boots for the same price as this restoration?
being honest wearing them arround 2 days a weak how long can you expect them to last?
This is interesting. Kinda imagine most people with these boots don't end up resoling them or go through a far less extensive (and I imagine expensive) resole. Wouldn't be surprised if this resole would have cost close to the same as the boot. That being said it's basically improved now from the original.
This was an amazing video. Not only helped me know detail on how Thursday Boots are made and I’ve decide to get a pair, but also knowing I will have a quality shop to send my boots in the future for restoration down the road. Thanks for making this video
That looks so much better with the leather midsole 😊
The refurbishment costs more than Thursday Boots.
yes i want my amateur hands to resole my nice boots rather than the professionals...
Nice video. I am always amazed when they resole boots and shoes. I should of been a cobbler..
I’ve got these Thursday Boots. Captains in Brown. I love the fact that we can get then resoled. This is one of the many reasons I went with Thursday Boots. The selection, the craftsmanship, the re-crafting , and the quality for the price. Cheers
I love Wyatt and Dad and they do great work. I look forward to having my boots done by them when the time comes.
That looks awesome with the leather midsole. Surprised no dye on it though
Great video, watching the deconstruction and discussion on the features has added to my pros for Thursday
The look of those Captains boots after is way better. But I wonder how much such a resole cost. Hand stitching is hard work, and those Captains boots aren't that expensive.
A new welt looks good and all, but that's going to add $100-$200 to your repair because of how labor intensive it is.
Great video. That had to have been an awesome experience.
Also is it me or does the one guy look like Burt Reynolds !! Definitely got my business and believe me I’ve got plenty of boots great video
Thank you! Are you THE Jamie Hyman of myth busters fame? Had to ask
This is awesome and quite soothing gonna watch. I wish I could’ve became an apprentice for Boot making 😕
Love the insight into cobbler work! I'm just dipping my feet, quite literally, into these resolable boots and find myself just carried away by the cool shit here. I'm a tinkerer so this stuff excites me!
Cool that you’re doing on of the boots! I’ve watched so many resole videos I wanna do it!!
Crazy cool!!! I learned so much from this presentation. Tips to help me with future purchases. Tips for when it comes time for a resole. Just an all around informative, and fantastic presentation. Folks....support your local craftsmen. These trades and techniques are time-tested, and proven methods of quality construction, that deserve our respect, implementation, and support. Support your local cobbler. Support your local watchmaker. Support your local tailor or seamstress. To quote Carl Murawski, "buy less, and buy better." BootSpy, please keep up the great work. All the best....cheers🥃
When you use word recrafted instead of resoled you can charge more money. It's a medium complexity manual labor not rocket science, get over yourself.
Very good video. Watching a novice along side a pro really highlights the craftsmanship, efficiency ,and experience of a cobbler. I also have an even greater respect for Thursday Boot Company. No ugly surprises hiding inside the boots construction. Actually, the opposite, with discovering it’s reinforced shank area. I just wish they didn’t build their boots so darn narrow. Even in Wide I have to size up, which becomes an awkward length with it’s pointed toe. Love the work and videos of Wyatt and Dad. My Iron Rangers will be traveling there within the next few months.
I wish I would have learned Cobbling instead of Tilework.
Its fascinating.
I love the idea of having my Boots re-furbished, but I'm not sure of the value when the refurbishment costs about the same as new boots.
Great skills. 😁👍
Love the natural leather colour of the new midsole and heel block.
Yeah, they look so good now. Like a totally new boot
They look darn good, Wyatt & Dad Cobbler is quite a craftsman
wow the process is super intricate. I ordered some of these thursdays, They do look fucking sick
Needed this video, I’ve abused my Thursday boots like hell. It’s definitely informative to see how the construction/process of the year welts work.
Will be taking these boots to a cobbler soon! 🤘🏼👣
My Captains after 1 year of wear looked way worse than those and I took good care of them. The undersole started coming off after a month, the stiching broke after 6-7 months and the uppers started coming apart. Thursday said that this is usual wear and tear and it's normal. I dont really understand why people still fall for that marketing scam and get those shitty boots.
Awesome video. In NC and will reach out when needed.
The end result is stellar. At least I know what to expect when it's time to resole my Cap'ns...
Maybe if the boots were 400 or more but why would I spend the same amount that I can just buy new boots for?
The younger guy sold him on a new welt bc of the holes. But the old guy hand welted for the same reason. Couldn't the old guy "reuse" the holes on the old welt?
Wow, they look better than new. Really interesting video and great work there.
Wyatt & sons are great they did my loafers 2 months ago and they turned out GREAT I will be back to them again ~~ !!!~~
Yeah I really loved my experience.. would definitely go back to them again. Tony and Toby had a ton of incredible knowledge..good stuff
DUDE WENT ON ABOUT PUSHING NEW WELTS CAUSE THE INFERIOR NESS OF THE MACHINE WELTINGS BUT MAKES YOU HAND WELT WTF
Ho-ly shit that beard is BUSSIN', my man!
Awesome work! Thanks for taking us along!!!
Those boots looked close to new. Absolutely no need to re-sole them, much less to re welt it...
That is a lot of work and expense for $200 boots.
That is the problem. I have a pair that are 2 year old and still look like new . I wonder how much it is to do all that work .
@@davidcoleman2796 Probably equal to or more than buying a new pair. The outsoles on those Thursdays did not look worn out to me. Clean and condition the uppers and boots and shoes will look great and last a long time. When the outsoles wear out on moderate priced footwear, money is better spent on a new pair. By that time, the interiors will have significant wear as well.
Did he said how much?
50 dollars are to much for another 5 years or less?
@@mogroot5790 No, William did not say the price of this work.
@@mogroot5790 this is min a 200+ usd job
I immediately trusted this man because of his beard.
Approx how many miles did these boots have on them?
Nice work, guys. You made fine craftsmanship look easy. It ain’t!
they're the experts. I definitely have a new appreciation for cobbling after this experience
Love the natural leather heel block and mid sole.
Curious on price? $200 new, cost to resole worth it?
Hello! I really enjoy your content. I live in India and don’t have any cobbler who can resole my boots and shoes. I have over 15 pairs of boots including redwing and Thursday. Can these guys offer their services if I would ship my boots to their location? That will be a great help
Look up Blk Bird Shoemaker, based out of Agra. They may be willing to resole your boots. I'm sure Wyatt & Dad would do a great job, but the shipping cost would be crazy
Yes, we offer mail services. Contact us through our website: WyattandDad.com
Thanks!
Awesome video! Love seeing the process.
so don't let red wing resole my rangers. gotchaa
You can tell a lot about a man on how they operate a tool.
they were not in need of a resole were they? They looked like new.
So how much does this usually cost?
amazing work bro your a gent
I know you are a boot channel, would love to see a video of your thoughts on belts to pair with a variety of boots. I'm thinking I'm not the only one that would be interested, upvote if you agree! As always, enjoy the content, this one was very cool.
Two cool brands worth checking out for belts are Pigeon Tree Crafting and Nobleman's Apothecary, beautiful, handmade and of a variety of constantly rotating leathers.
@@adamcuthbert9498 thanks I’ll check them out.
That looks very nice with the natural colored midsole and the leather heel stack. Contrast is very nice with a darker leather upper and a black sole.
10/10, if I had a pair of Thursdays, I would do that when they need new soles.
That man has an amazing beard!
Thursdays when resoled are best if you want better comfort grt a crape midsole, and Cork and dainite
Had a cobbler tell me he had no room to re-stitch because not enough material from goodyear welt to stitch on sides from being too narrow than the rest of the welt surface area. This should never be the case since you have to be able to get the machine on the stitching area to stay in place;and also I didn't get enough wear from the sole before it cracked on the middle corner.
What color are these captains??? I'm looking for these!!
how much does this cost?
Just buy new boots...
How's your fit, feel and walking experience with the new sole/heel?
HAD A PAIR OF REDWING IRONRANGER INDIAN MOTORCYCLE BOOTS DONE THEY TURNED OUT AWSOME WYATT&SON IS TOP NOTCH
Can't wait to get my Captain's resoled by these guys, see you in Bull City
Sweet, there is a Wyatt & Dad Shoe Repair in Durham, NC near me.
I'd really like to see you do a review of Thursday's Casa Moto boot.
Them Carolina boys sure do nice work.
Super good work, if you ask me
What does something like this cost if I wanted to do the same exact restoration?
Well now I know where to get my shoes resoled locally.
Love the natural look over the black soles.
He always tries to push new welts🤑
Wow they do look beautiful
This was great repurpose work. Made the boot look better than original!
That looks like so much fun.
Turned out really nice.
Always love the cobbler videos. Thursday Boots has good construction. You should do more of these.
uuhm have you seen the crappy cardboard insole?
Great feedback, I'm reaching out to see if we can make some more!
This is a pain in the ass, I don't know if this is worth it.
well normally you don't have to do it yourself... the cobbler will do it for you
I thought that was papa smurf!
How much would this kinda job would cost to a customer ?
Probably a bit over $200
@@BootSpy Was it worth it spending that money, I mean you buy a new boot again right ? I am trying to evaluate the cost.
That was cool as hell
Masterful work
that new welt is so clean
Hey man, where did you get that button up shirt?
Taylor stitch shop shirt. It’s great
Thanks for the reply! Love your content brother.@@BootSpy