We got a hint that Kano killed Blue Morpho way back in season 1. "Those hands of his are strong enough to crush a boulder, yet delicate enough to crush a butterfly." Then Kano hands Dean a blue butterfly.
Also when team ventures is drugged by Mother's gas, you see kano having his head spinning in his hallucinations. Maybe the gas gave him vision of what he did to his friend.
What's messed up here is that Jonas went to get Blue Morpho's body for his "experiment" and left The Monarch out in the wilderness to fend for himself. Dude was a real psychopath.
@@B1SCOOP Rusty is a clone - Helper Mk 2 tells Dean such by accident, mistaking their identities. But I don't think Rusty's a clone of himself - I think he's a modified clone of Malcolm. Note how The Monarch is healthy, spry, and has all of his hair. Rusty's dealing with balding, a tumor-turned-brother, and health concerns. They're very close to the same age, since they went to college together. Dr. Venture got Monarch's mom pregnant, passed the resulting child off as Malcolm, likely swiped DNA and very well could've made Rusty. Note there's never any mention of Rusty's mom, *ever*.
I hadn't even thought about this, but yeh the super scientist couldn't be fucked to find his illegitimate son in the crash. That is true evil, not what Dr. Z did. He gave Vendata a true new life as his own entity. This show has so many dark layers, and soon... More will unfold.
Considering Jonas Venture Sr. is the owner of the whole compound and makes the place run, that means not only did he bring back the Blue Morpho as a shadow of his former self, stuck in a cybernetic body and a slave to programming, but when Kano broke him again, Jonas just THREW HIM IN THE DUMPSTER. Jonas threw a "close friend" into the fuckin' dumpster with his body parts still inside there. Not to mention the suit was obviously the only thing keeping him alive and got broken by Kano, his internal organs probably would have rotted away inside there if Doctor Z hadn't found him.
And for some reason, I think Sovereign knew who Vendata was (and kept quiet about it all til the very end of his life) nevermind the probability of him having the same theory as Red Death re: the Movie Night Massacre on Gargantua 1 and made him a Councilman of the Guild out of sympathy and respect
Kano's silence was a choice because "He had taken from this world a great man" which was implied that he killed Dr. Venture. Now its explained that the person who he killed was the Blue Morpho. How cool that they put in this subtle reference.
It rather bugs me how the writers created the implication that he was referring to Dr.Venture. I mean Brock accuses him of killing Dr Venture to protect the Orb and Kano doesn't try to deny it. Kano could have easily denied it without mentioning who he DID kill, but the writers wanted to create that false implication for the audience... Not to mention that Brock was under the belief that Dr Venture was killed in the movie night massacre by sphinx (Though that makes me suspect their might have been some minor retconning inbetween seasons)
Fun fact, Vendatta didn’t really hit the switch that caused the massacre, The Sovereign did in a shapeshifted form! It was his only way to usurp Jonas (Force Majure), while making it look like a team of rogue guild members were responsible.
It’s speaks a lot to team ventures credit that they actually ridiculed Jonas for turning Morpho into a puppet. A lot of people act like they were just as bad as Jonas but they really weren’t.
Kinda makes you wonder what Jonas had over them to keep them in line. Obviously he blackmailed Kano with the threat of ruining Blue Morpho's life (which he did anyway, just in a different way) to keep the big guy loyal, but how did he keep the likes of Action Man and Colonel Gentleman in line? I'm not saying it's impossible that they worked with him entirely willingly, but Jonas was already the type to apply leverage against others...
Ichiyama22 well action man was high all the time and Gentleman was a sex addict so I don’t think they really payed much mind to his atrocities most of the time.
Yea I think that Jonas provided Action Man with his drugs. As for Colonel Gentleman, he probably black mailed him with the knowledge that he was gay. Gentlemen wasn’t out in the open till relative modern day.
@@Moffles0919 Gentleman isn't gay. If a word should be used to describe his sexuality, I'd say omnisexual would be the most accurate. Guy is willing to fuck anything that moves and I'm willing to bet quite a few things that don't.
Blue Morpho/Venturion/Vendata storyline is one of the saddest character stories I've ever seen in a show. I'm now starting to suspect Jonas caused the plane to crash because Blue Morpho was starting to resist Jonas' orders. Also notice in the flashback, Rusty is burning ants and stealing, both cruel behaviors, and he ate his twin. I wonder if Malcom was supposed to be the good brother, and Rusty the villain, like Dr. Killinger suggested.
@@25shadow11 monarch was already a bad guy by this time. Bad guys cant arch each other. That's why the monarch had to take on the blue morpho disguise last season.
@Danite Ghost And looking at the Monarch in his run as Blue Morpho, that was probably the most successful we've ever seen the Monarch. He's a natural hero.
Danite Ghost we know he’s slept with at least two to three girls, Dermott’s mom, Hank’s mom (at the very least since I’m not sure if Dean might just be a clone or what right now), and the crazy bitch.
also he referred to the creation as "one sexy makeover" i dont think he regretted that first encounter. also i think rusty may have always been a shit. he didnt seem happy in the flashback while watching the monarch play with that toy car and when venturion attacked rusty was burning ants .
Seeing how perturbed Dr.Z was when he saw the blue morpho's brain, contemplating putting him out of his misery before ultimately turning him into a weapon against Jonas, says a smidge more about his moral and ethical boundaries for the supervillain when compared to the former. Also, team venture's vocal distaste towards Jonas's desecration of a dear friend's corpse implied far too many things about the man
Z often blurs the line a little bit. I remember back in his Johnny Quest days, he wants to release a green renewable energy source of pure ethanol made by mutant insects, but only after he conquers the world with said insects.
From what we've all seen, I think it can be assumed that Jonas was (and *is*) the monster of this series.The more we learn the depths this guy would sink to, the more we see how bad he really was.
Tara Alexander yes he’s bad, but that’s because he has no morals or ethics. It’s not like he wants to hurt people it’s just that he can’t rationalize that’s what he’s doing, he only sees himself and what he can benefit from stuff. It’s not malicious but bad regardless.
To make this even more tragic, I think that Jonas didn't do this out of the "goodness" of his heart...reviving Blue Morpho into Venturion was just another experiment, another project. He didn't save him, he used Blue Morpho's corpse to once again show off his smarts.
@@speshulgurlee And he got bored of Venturion within a month, letting him do menial labor, like walking a dog. The council of 13 maybe villains...but Jonas was a monster.
i kinda wonder if its that+ Jonas probably wanted to keep BM doing his dirty work as before, except now he could just be controlled directly now as a robot
"Some bungler dropped dime and I got pinched on a narco rap" Dr. Z not arrested for being a superscience villain menace, but rather for coke trafficking. Leave it to VB to treat villains so poetically Capone.
In singapore too, they were probably going to execute him. They don't fuck with narcotics of any kind over there. Heavy handed but hey, fewer meth heads is better for everyone
@@satoshikatsumoto9007 Whats really interesting is that in the world of Venture Bros, super villains like Dr Z would have made very scary real world crime lords, and some of them did.
Sounds like just as Kano snapped Venturion's head off, Venturion was saying, "problem solved." And you can see "directive: protect" reappear just as he lets go of Rusty.
Everyone focuses on him choking Rusty, but no one talks about how he thought he was crashing the plane that would take his wife and make him Jonas’ newest toaster.
It’s even sadder when you realize that’s his last memory, even after being turned into Vendata. In Bot Seeks Bot when he’s broken in the bathroom, the last thing he says is “I think the plane is going down.” Meaning he’s essentially in his own head practically re-living his death every time that the Blue Morpho breaks through all of his programming as Venturion/Vendata
@@BusterJones9506 Tragic is how it resolves itself, implying that Jonas made sure he couldn't remember, for better or worse. Right as Kano takes his head off, the screen goes back to "Directive: Protect," stops bugging out, and he says something like "Problem resolved" or the like.
I love everyone who is pointing out all the intricate details surrounding this character and how they've been alluded to and woven around. I also love that Dr. Z just installed a "Good/Evil" switch on his noggin.
Another hint to Rusty being a clone is that the date on Venturion's view says 1977, and Rusty looks about 10 years old, when in the Spanakopita episode flashback we saw that Rusty was around the same age ten years earlier, in the late 1960s.
I love how more and more the series goes, we see how shitty Jonas Venture SR really is. Originally it was just nepotism, now Rusty’s feelings are completely justified
Interesting how as the years passed the rest of team Venture began to mature but Jonas stayed the same. They started to grow apart from Jonas, which explains why they weren't in Gargantua-1 movie night massacre.
I know this is 6 months late, but the only reason the team wasn't at the massacre was that they were late. Hell the only reason Jonas is still alive in any capacity, is because the team retrieved his body from space and put his head in the PROBLEM machine.
It makes me sad whenever Malcom Cries in the flashbacks. He was just trying to have fun and spend time with his family, but sadly like his dad, he too was met with the misfortune of Jonas's cruel and selfish behaviour which lead to the loss of his family and his unsettling transition into becoming the Monarch.
It just occurred to me that there's a chance Sovereign/"Bowie" knew who Vendata once was and assuming if he did cause the massacre, he offered him a seat on the Council and omitted the Blue Morpho notes from the Guild. There really is no coincidence for why Don/BM/Venturian/Vendatta ended up as Councilman 1.
@@Flarflenugen If that isn't a PRIME example of calamitious intent, after all, what is? Even if it was arguably an accident..... so much carnage. so much death.
It's bad to recover the body of the friend whose life you ruined and turn him into an abomination, but that also means he didn't bother to look for his friend's son, whose body was surely not there.
Lets be perfectly honest here. If all it took to make Vendatta "Evil" was the installation of a minimally invasive switch on the back of his brain casing... ...Jonas had ALREADY incorporated the ability to program Vendatta to do and act however his handler pleased
And that they thought he was cool. Like, really, Dr. Z saw his worth while Jonas was happy to throw him away. Yes, he was horrified, but he also saw this cool, amazing robot and saw its potential. That is so much more than Jonas did
that's after he either seduced or r worded Blue Morpho's wife. we don't know which. We just know in the flash back, BM was wondering if he was infertile not her, Jonas leared at her picture and said "hey, bring her around my science is potent..." After everything we've found out that Jonas did, do you really think he wouldn't simply take what he wanted?
It seems to be implied that the clones have to age in real time. So he could have cloned him as a baby. He also wouldn’t have the memory backups, which he gets from the learning beds.
@@matt_1984_Given the whole situation, it wouldn't shock me if he did rape the Morpho's wife. I mean, I'm sure he didn't hold her down and rape her, but I can certainly see him manipulating her or even drugging her.
The funny thing is I really do believe Jonas could have easily "saved his friend's life" at the very least by making him a replica of his old body and preserving as much of his original thoughts and memories as possible, but he instead chose to wipe his memory clean, dress him up in a Halloween costume and parade him around like a toy with the Venture logo slapped onto him. I also know there's the whole debate of whether or not "bringing him back" in the first place was even the right thing to do, seeing as how Blue Morpho didn't ask for any of this, especially since Jonas didn't even do the same thing for his wife. It's pretty crazy how the stuff he didn't do makes Jonas as much of a monster as the stuff he already did.
Because Jonas is the kind of guy who puts himself first, EVERY TIME. There’s never a moment where Jonas is actually putting someone else first, not even Rusty. And he’s such a good gaslighter and manipulator that he makes everyone think he’s the hero. He treats his friends and family as experiments, he manipulates and tortures people, he leaves kids to die in dangerous situations, and then he turned his friend into a roboslave after blackmailing him for years… Rusty may be completely ignorant about Hank and negligent towards Dean’s mental health, but Jonas was downright manipulative and malicious. Fuck Jonas.
And then throughout the whole thing, he forces the Blue Morpho's friends to bare witness to it all. They had to let him basically be a toy to Jonas until Kano finally had an excuse to put him out of his misery
Love that Venture was more perplexed that his team expressed distain over his "accomplishment" instead of praise. Makes you released Rusty, while still fucked up, is still more of a human being than his father.
That's the beauty of failure. If Rusty had been rhe successful super scientist he always wanted to be, he would have been exactly like Jonas. Instead, through his failure, he was able to be a much, much better father and friend.
@@KellyCalKelsey Knowing what a glib sociopath Jonas already was about ruining lives and engineering nightmares, I can't imagine the kind of thing's he'd come up with for OSI after waking up completely severed from all sensation, and with only his own thoughts for company.
@@gentlemanmaniac9992 The Action Man was not good with anyone, he is easily the worst after Jonas himself, well at least he has the excuse that that whole super-soldier thing probably messed his mind like it did with Hatred.
@@joethehero2 yes, I think so plus whatever trauma he also got working for that fucker Jonas, he was a still a POS responsible for a lot of the things Rusty went through.
@@milliganpaul7900 I still say thats the case, even after all that they did to him, he (as Vendata) probably still remembered his hatred for Jonas, even if he couldnt remember why the hatred existed. So he orchestrated his death in a sort of subconscious manner. Dr Z was only a piece of the puzzle, restoring him to functionality.
All it took was one bad decision to set the man once known as the Blue Morpho on this path. He cheated on his wife, wound up being blackmailed by Jonas for years because of it, and to top it all off Malcom, as it turns out, is actually Jonas' son instead of his. And that's not to mention how he was used even after death like a toy. And all it took was one night. One tape. And one horrible excuse for a friend.
@@Lonelyweirdo96 you can definitely hate Jonas, because Malcolm meeting Jonas was the worst day of Malcolms life, and the catalyst to what he eventually became.
When Action Man is disgusted by your actions, you know you're beyond help. Also Dr.Z got sent to a SuperMax for cocaine possession must be some strict laws in Singapore.
@@gentlemanmaniac9992 to double that, Not all can be blamed on Jonas. I mean... yeah... like a good... 60? 70? percent of it. But other then that, Rusty, The Guild and The Investors were to blame.
Four years later: No, it's not just that. Dr. Z didn't inherit his super scientists or amazing venture capitalists parents money. That dude built an evil empire starting with nothing but will. Man is my god damned hero.
Bhahaha I want to see more of the arch Dr. Z did on Jonas. Lol, the army of Helpers shooting at Jonas with Dr. Z riding some big machine and laughing menacingly. Now that’s an arch right there!
@@BokanProductions You know, I always forget that detail. Adds a fun element to the fact that they were on the council together with how Z programmed Vendatta.
I know Johnny Quest is an actually character in this show... But what happened here is Doctor Benton Quest went into the dark side and brought back to life his friend, the Green Hornet, as a cyborg, much to the disapproval of Allan Quartermain, with the technology later used by Omni Comsumer Products and the underfunded Detroit Police Department.
I'm pretty sure the good/evil switch is just a joke but i want to believe Jonas just put that there in case he ever got bored of venturion and wanted an easy way to get rid of him
I liked him better with his little moustache. Who else is low key hoping he was the one that opened the bay doors. I mean, granted a lot of innocent people died in space, but still Jonas had it coming.
If that was how he treated his friends, then you can only imagine how he treated everyone else. This makes me think it could have been anyone on that station who wanted payback.
There's a really nice hypotheses running around that it was Colonel Manstrong when he was a paperboy. Since he wasn't killed on that night, one has to wonder what was he doing during the movie screening. Some think he wandered into the control room and found Vendata's sex tape. He got so shocked at his first sexual experience that he accidentally opened the bay doors, probably by resting or falling on it. The trauma of knowing he had murdered everyone was too much and it's the reason he's so ashamed of any sexual displays. It also explains why he chose to say Ghost Spaceman did it, as it's the way a young boy would rationalize murder, by making up an excuse about someone else doing it.
What's funny to me is how *incompetent* these heroes and villains are often portrayed. They're ridiculous, flawed in ways well beyond literature, and often just straight up act like dude-bros, party animals, or just depression-targets. But what do we see? Dr Z snagged for a drug bust. Presumably he's going into a super-max prison with damn near nothing to work with, and he busts out. He doesn't say he did his time or got released or anything. He "escaped". When compared with the day to day world, these goofballs are actually still a legitimate force to be reckoned with. It puts things in perspective when you're otherwise desensitized and see them all as walking jokes.
"Kano hasn't spoken a word, since," so it was having to put down his friend's carcass that made him take the vow of silence. Poor guy. Knows if he had still been partnered with Blue Morpho then no one would have been able to tamper with the plane (look at the attention he's paying to them working on the X-1), having to watch the ghost of his friend shuffle around the compound, and then having to put him down with his bare hands. Doubley sad that A) Had Venturion wanted to actually hurt Rusty, that boys neck would have been snapped off, by sheerest virtue that he's trying to save his child in the error-flashback, Rusty lives B) He had realized his error enough to release the child, Kano didn't have to force it (but made the smart move, knowing all the things Jonas Sr could have built into this thing for it to suddenly spring out while melting down) before he snapped his head off
I find it ironic that Jonas ultimately suffered the same fate as Blue Morpho did when Team Venture shoved his remains in P.R.O.B.L.E.M. and he got left there for 20ish years.
I think the show made it pretty clear even though Jonas is a hero by profession he doesn't have the morality of a hero. Since he was using Blue Morpho to do his dirty work. The good/evil switch is probably for when he wanted Venturian to do bad.
We don't know if the original Venture team realized that he was literally thrown in the trash. And I imagine they were just happy to get him away from Jonas
I mean, think about how many months be had to look at what was basically his dear friend's corpse and how it was reduced to being a slave to a horrible man. And now the poor thing that used to be a man is so confused that it's attacking a child for no reason.
Jonas liked to act like he was helping his old friend, but if he was actually doing it to bring him back, he wouldn't have designed him to be a walking, talking testament to his ego that's literally branded with his name. He didn't do it to save the blue morpho, he did it to see if he could. Not to mention it's entirely possible he could have been doing it to make sure he lived forever too, just pop his brain into a robot body and bam, the world is stuck with an immortal Jonas.
So that's why sometimes Kano did and didn't speak later and there were contradictions concerning whether and how he had anything to do with so-and-so's death. Clever of the writers to reveal it this way.
Jonas caring only for people with if they are useful to him or not, i believe Jonas only turned Morpho into Venturion just to get research data for his own life extension machine project, that why Jonas got bored of Venturion
One of the things that has often troubled me about the Monarch's back story is that he doesn't remember playing with Rusty, but he remembers his childhood home as well as his life after the plane crash extremely vividly. I've often wondered if Monarch is also a clone and the original Malcom was killed in the plane crash along with his parents, which would explain why his memories are so fragmented and he only remembers certain things regarding his childhood (much like Hank and Dean). It just seems very unlikely that a young child would survive a plane crash but not his parents. Assuming Malcom is Jonas' child, it would make sense that he would've kept clones of him much like Rusty.
Or the wreck caused some memory loss. He was able to remember bits and pieces of how his dad and mom were but the earliest interaction with Rusty was wipped out. If we take Myra's word about the true ages of Hank and Dean, then Rusty (depending on how many clone slugs were produced) would more than likely be in his early to mid 60s as opposed to the 42/3 years old stated in Return to Spider Skull Island and the college era
I just realized the fact all he did to make him evil was flip a switch that was already there, like Jonas built him specifically to be able to do whatever he wanted.
I think a lot more attention should be paid to the Good / Evil switch gag. Yea, it’s supposed to be a light joke, but in context of the show it is evidence that Jonas preinstalled an evil mode for Blue Morpho. Just another check on the Jonas Venture is an Evil Scientist box. No need to blackmail Blue Morpho when you can just flick a switch to make him do your dirty work.
So let’s get this straight: It all started with the Guild, back in its found fathers it’s mission was to protect an ancient object of great power called the ORB. After that event the Guild later became the “Guild of Columns intent” so Colonel Venture quits the Guild and became an inventor of Super science. After that Jonas was born and followed his father’s super science career, but expanded to explore the world seeing lost civilizations and creatures. He fought many villains not just the Guild of Columns Intent but villains like Dr. Z, Scarumantrula, Brainulo and L Ron Hubbard. On the way he created Team Venture. Colonel Gentleman a James Bond man, Action Man a super soldier, Swifty a African American boxer, Kano a master of the martial arts, Humongaloid a man with (super) Gigantism, and that aquaman reject guy and a caveman and the Blue Morpho. As time goes on Jonas has a wife or lover pregnant with his son(s). And when Rusty was born he became his father’s traveling companion, side-kick, and young test partner. In 86 Blue Morpho’s plane crashes, Malcolm (The Monarch) survived and was raised by Monarch Butterflies. Jonas saved the Blue Morpho by turning him into a Venture Robocop. Rusty went on many adventures with his father and it mentally scared him for life. Then when Rusty is a teenager he goes to college and wants to make his own name, while his father at his space station a paper boy watches the blackmail tape of Jonas and Blue Morpho having sex with a couple of celebrities. He accidentally opens the cargo doors releasing the entire crew including Jonas. Team Venture tried to save him but Kano slips on one of Rusty’s old cowboy toys breaking Jonas’ frozen body like glass leaving his head intact. After that Brock is forced to quite college and joins the army then is transferred to the OSI, to battle SPHINX. As for Peter White he hoists a game shower there he meets Billy and they somewhat became friends until Billy is signed by Brock and his partner/father figure Hunter to find the guild. At the college Billy meets Pro. Fantamos who is a cripple man wearing prosthetic arms to hide his true arms. He created a machine that was meant to fix his limbs but instead turn them into electrical invisible limbs that can kill someone just by touching them. As for the Monarch he joined some villains groups as a henchman before becoming his own, then Hank and Dean are born. Under the Venture Compound Rusty or Thaddeus as he’s called clones his sons incase of emergencies, and Broke’s hired as his bodyguard after the previous one went crazy. As years go by the Venture bros gone on many adventures until JJ was born almost trying to kill Rusty but changes his mind after he shows him mercy. As for Pro. Impossible he was so caught up in his work even ignoring his wife’s child till finally she leaves him and became a train wreck. After Monarch and Dr. Girlfriend were about to get married Phantom Limb tried to crash their wedding and steal Dr. Girlfriend and the Guild at the same time. But failed went crazy even started a group callee “The revenge society” consisting of a shoe, a mug and a toaster. He even used Billy to join the heads kf two of the oldest members of the guild to know about the ORB. After JJ’s death Thaddeus inherits his brother’s tower and became rich until he found out his father wasn’t dead nor the Blue Morpho so both he and the Monarch got to meet their dads again until Jonas ends up accidentally killing them both. And all this after Dean goes through a life searching after finding out he’s a clone, Hank falls in love with a villain’s daughter and they keep it a secret. Is there anything I missed?
The Revenge Society turned into a proper team with actual recruits after the attempt at getting the ORB and the discovery that it was broken a long time ago. And he had Billy graft those two's heads together because at least one of them was about to die and that was his way of keeping them alive for their knowledge. Also, the aftermath of Brock's mission involving Billy and Fantasmos had him effectively demoted to babysitting duty for Rusty Venture, with the actual objective being to make sure he didn't find and use the power of the ORB (the latter happened but not the former, with Rusty electing to study it to determine whether or not it's a danger to humanity and if it could be safely utilized for mankind's betterment. Brock also left OSI thanks to his old flame's manipulations and the clones of the boys were all killed off (as Hank and Dean were death prone and the clones acted as backups but got used here to try and force a stalemate). He joined SPHINX alongside his old mentor, Hunter Gathers and some OSI defectors before the organization re-merged into OSI after its leader passed the mantle on to Hunter.
Wow, even Team Venture is outraged. When a full on psycho like Action Man can't take it, you know it's some fucked up shit! But OMG! A good/evil switch! That's some good ole 70s style villany from Dr. Z.
That Good/Bad switch is there before Z even changes his look or anything, implying Jonas put a goddamn Good/Bad switch in there just for the laughs of it. At this point im not surprised.
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I just realized, he wasn't even trying to choke Rusty he was trying to right the plane.
That makes it even worse.
Even more that he was rebooting and about to stop before Kano broke his neck.
Oh my God I never realized. I just thought he was attacking what made his kid cry once, not mistaking his throat for the controls.
Oh damn!!
@@Rasioks which must have been why he took an oath of silence for killing a good man. His best friend
We got a hint that Kano killed Blue Morpho way back in season 1. "Those hands of his are strong enough to crush a boulder, yet delicate enough to crush a butterfly." Then Kano hands Dean a blue butterfly.
Sweet Jesus you are right. I’d chalk that one up as coincidence but given all the callbacks in later episodes, I can’t really say for sure.
Also when team ventures is drugged by Mother's gas, you see kano having his head spinning in his hallucinations. Maybe the gas gave him vision of what he did to his friend.
@@Ghradri i think that was just a jackobs ladder reference. like how the halls filling with blood is a reference to the shining
Holy crap I missed that!
The writing on this show is spectacular
It's funny, Dr. Z is a super villain criminal and he only gets arrested for harboring cocaine.
Just like in real life
BokanProductions so al Capone was a crime boss and went to jail for tax evasion
in Singapur Dude in SINGAPUR!!!!!!! in the 70s!!!!
I feel like it was heroin
All because some bungler dropped dime
What's messed up here is that Jonas went to get Blue Morpho's body for his "experiment" and left The Monarch out in the wilderness to fend for himself. Dude was a real psychopath.
It's also possible Malcom died in the crash and got cloned by Jonas. We'll see in the final film for what purpose.
Yep a wannabe lex luthor
@@B1SCOOP Rusty is a clone - Helper Mk 2 tells Dean such by accident, mistaking their identities.
But I don't think Rusty's a clone of himself - I think he's a modified clone of Malcolm. Note how The Monarch is healthy, spry, and has all of his hair. Rusty's dealing with balding, a tumor-turned-brother, and health concerns. They're very close to the same age, since they went to college together. Dr. Venture got Monarch's mom pregnant, passed the resulting child off as Malcolm, likely swiped DNA and very well could've made Rusty. Note there's never any mention of Rusty's mom, *ever*.
@@megalomaniacalHalide which episode says he’s a clone?
I hadn't even thought about this, but yeh the super scientist couldn't be fucked to find his illegitimate son in the crash. That is true evil, not what Dr. Z did. He gave Vendata a true new life as his own entity. This show has so many dark layers, and soon... More will unfold.
Dr. Z surviving going to prison for cocaine in SIngapore may be one of the more impressive feats in this show.
Considering Jonas Venture Sr. is the owner of the whole compound and makes the place run, that means not only did he bring back the Blue Morpho as a shadow of his former self, stuck in a cybernetic body and a slave to programming, but when Kano broke him again, Jonas just THREW HIM IN THE DUMPSTER. Jonas threw a "close friend" into the fuckin' dumpster with his body parts still inside there. Not to mention the suit was obviously the only thing keeping him alive and got broken by Kano, his internal organs probably would have rotted away inside there if Doctor Z hadn't found him.
xdude228 Z practically saved the day despite being a villain
And for some reason, I think Sovereign knew who Vendata was (and kept quiet about it all til the very end of his life) nevermind the probability of him having the same theory as Red Death re: the Movie Night Massacre on Gargantua 1 and made him a Councilman of the Guild out of sympathy and respect
@@KellyCalKelsey
Dr. Z has a habit of doing that.
“Jonas didn’t have friends, he collected them.”
Idk, I feel like it was just the brain
Kano's silence was a choice because "He had taken from this world a great man" which was implied that he killed Dr. Venture. Now its explained that the person who he killed was the Blue Morpho. How cool that they put in this subtle reference.
It goes even further. Re watch the episode kano was introduced in. There is a line about his hands and butterflies.
@@joag5603 oh my god your right
It rather bugs me how the writers created the implication that he was referring to Dr.Venture. I mean Brock accuses him of killing Dr Venture to protect the Orb and Kano doesn't try to deny it. Kano could have easily denied it without mentioning who he DID kill, but the writers wanted to create that false implication for the audience... Not to mention that Brock was under the belief that Dr Venture was killed in the movie night massacre by sphinx (Though that makes me suspect their might have been some minor retconning inbetween seasons)
@@inflightb4563 what tell me?
I bet if he killed Jonas Sr. He would be singing
You gotta love how Dr Z knew about Vendata all these years but let him exist as an independent supervillain and member of the council of 13
Plus Sovereign might have put two and two together about The Blue Morpho and Vendata but kept the revelation to himself
@@SuperWolsey We truly will never know how many secrets died with him in that lake.
@@spyrofan9681 or if he was the eagle that died
Irony considering Dr. Z and the Blue Morpho’s... history.
Fun fact, Vendatta didn’t really hit the switch that caused the massacre, The Sovereign did in a shapeshifted form! It was his only way to usurp Jonas (Force Majure), while making it look like a team of rogue guild members were responsible.
Now it makes sense when Dr Venture says "The metal murder man from my nightmares"
Brian Webb Jr it mentioned in that episode by osi that he tried to strangle him
It's also mentioned in the episode where dean gets an internship when rusty sings his musical song look it up he's says "metal fingers they linger"
@@lordkrayt1405 oh shit u right I forgot about his song
It’s speaks a lot to team ventures credit that they actually ridiculed Jonas for turning Morpho into a puppet. A lot of people act like they were just as bad as Jonas but they really weren’t.
Kinda makes you wonder what Jonas had over them to keep them in line. Obviously he blackmailed Kano with the threat of ruining Blue Morpho's life (which he did anyway, just in a different way) to keep the big guy loyal, but how did he keep the likes of Action Man and Colonel Gentleman in line? I'm not saying it's impossible that they worked with him entirely willingly, but Jonas was already the type to apply leverage against others...
Ichiyama22 well action man was high all the time and Gentleman was a sex addict so I don’t think they really payed much mind to his atrocities most of the time.
Yea I think that Jonas provided Action Man with his drugs. As for Colonel Gentleman, he probably black mailed him with the knowledge that he was gay. Gentlemen wasn’t out in the open till relative modern day.
@@Moffles0919 Gentleman isn't gay. If a word should be used to describe his sexuality, I'd say omnisexual would be the most accurate. Guy is willing to fuck anything that moves and I'm willing to bet quite a few things that don't.
I sure would prefer living as a robot than being dead and gone forever.
how tragic is it that Kano of all people is the one who put Venturion down?
He did say "I've taken from the this world a great man" worse a man who was once his partner
Isn't that why he stopped talking?
@@jubjub444 It would seem so!
That just makes the cancelation all the more angering because I wanna know how exactly Kano and blue morpho met.
I don't know why I am just realizing this. I love this show
Blue Morpho/Venturion/Vendata storyline is one of the saddest character stories I've ever seen in a show. I'm now starting to suspect Jonas caused the plane to crash because Blue Morpho was starting to resist Jonas' orders. Also notice in the flashback, Rusty is burning ants and stealing, both cruel behaviors, and he ate his twin. I wonder if Malcom was supposed to be the good brother, and Rusty the villain, like Dr. Killinger suggested.
but killinger suggested he fight jonas junior, not the monarch
@@25shadow11 monarch was already a bad guy by this time. Bad guys cant arch each other. That's why the monarch had to take on the blue morpho disguise last season.
@Danite Ghost And looking at the Monarch in his run as Blue Morpho, that was probably the most successful we've ever seen the Monarch. He's a natural hero.
Danite Ghost we know he’s slept with at least two to three girls, Dermott’s mom, Hank’s mom (at the very least since I’m not sure if Dean might just be a clone or what right now), and the crazy bitch.
@Danite Ghost Not just that, the guy's got good in his heart despite his best efforts.
Funny that it was Dr. Z who turned Venturion into Vendata. Especially after he made "sweet, accidental love" to the Blue Morpho.
That is 2 confirmed instances of him getting inside of BM.
Oh that hurts
“DR.Z?! Have you NO sense of decency?!”
also he referred to the creation as "one sexy makeover" i dont think he regretted that first encounter.
also i think rusty may have always been a shit. he didnt seem happy in the flashback while watching the monarch play with that toy car and when venturion attacked rusty was burning ants .
And funny how Blue Morpho got his revenge against Jonas as Vendata
Seeing how perturbed Dr.Z was when he saw the blue morpho's brain, contemplating putting him out of his misery before ultimately turning him into a weapon against Jonas, says a smidge more about his moral and ethical boundaries for the supervillain when compared to the former. Also, team venture's vocal distaste towards Jonas's desecration of a dear friend's corpse implied far too many things about the man
Col Gentleman saying that he's gone to far that time confirmed your statement.
Z often blurs the line a little bit. I remember back in his Johnny Quest days, he wants to release a green renewable energy source of pure ethanol made by mutant insects, but only after he conquers the world with said insects.
From what we've all seen, I think it can be assumed that Jonas was (and *is*) the monster of this series.The more we learn the depths this guy would sink to, the more we see how bad he really was.
Tara Alexander yes he’s bad, but that’s because he has no morals or ethics. It’s not like he wants to hurt people it’s just that he can’t rationalize that’s what he’s doing, he only sees himself and what he can benefit from stuff. It’s not malicious but bad regardless.
@@juliandavidhoffer2022 Jonas represents science for progress only, without morals, and more often than not profit and looking cool
This was never about helping him, jonas just needed a new vanity project and something to show how smart he was
and someone to maybe do his dirty work for him some more
@@InfernosReaper yep
@@InfernosReaper yep
I think the creepy part is that there probably was some part of Jonas that thought he was helping.
@@rosesweetcharlotte up till modern day he still probably thinks he did nothing wrong in this whole matter
“No, I found VENTURION!”
“Who the devil is Venturion?!”
“A super cool robot!”
I love the way he says super cool robot
@@iananderson4754 The tone of voice sounds like a kid in an argument with another kid XD
@@mordredpayne9855 Well, they are man-children
To make this even more tragic, I think that Jonas didn't do this out of the "goodness" of his heart...reviving Blue Morpho into Venturion was just another experiment, another project. He didn't save him, he used Blue Morpho's corpse to once again show off his smarts.
And presented it to Team Venture like a cat with a dead mouse, not just unaware of the ghoulishness of it but seemingly expecting praise.
@@speshulgurlee Just goes to show how shitty he is.
@@speshulgurlee And he got bored of Venturion within a month, letting him do menial labor, like walking a dog. The council of 13 maybe villains...but Jonas was a monster.
i kinda wonder if its that+ Jonas probably wanted to keep BM doing his dirty work as before, except now he could just be controlled directly now as a robot
@@satoshikatsumoto9007 throwing Morphos decapitated body into garbage also says a lot how he sees people with no longer use for him.
"Some bungler dropped dime and I got pinched on a narco rap" Dr. Z not arrested for being a superscience villain menace, but rather for coke trafficking. Leave it to VB to treat villains so poetically Capone.
I posted that fact myself.
its literally why drug laws were made like this nixion said as much
In singapore too, they were probably going to execute him. They don't fuck with narcotics of any kind over there. Heavy handed but hey, fewer meth heads is better for everyone
I think Super Villains are treated as job employment. You can have crazy "conquer the world" schemes but don't overdo it.
@@satoshikatsumoto9007 Whats really interesting is that in the world of Venture Bros, super villains like Dr Z would have made very scary real world crime lords, and some of them did.
Sounds like just as Kano snapped Venturion's head off, Venturion was saying, "problem solved." And you can see "directive: protect" reappear just as he lets go of Rusty.
He still could've killed Rusty i imagine a bionic robot man could easily snap a adolescents neck.
@Ann Nifödova i thought it was a one time deal
Now that's a catch
@Ann Nifödova I think the running theory is that the affair may not have been all that consentual.
@Ann Nifödova so that's why Venturion was yelling No No at Rusty.
Everyone focuses on him choking Rusty, but no one talks about how he thought he was crashing the plane that would take his wife and make him Jonas’ newest toaster.
It took me a while to realized that.
All the more tragic that Kano had to put him down.
It’s even sadder when you realize that’s his last memory, even after being turned into Vendata. In Bot Seeks Bot when he’s broken in the bathroom, the last thing he says is “I think the plane is going down.” Meaning he’s essentially in his own head practically re-living his death every time that the Blue Morpho breaks through all of his programming as Venturion/Vendata
@@BusterJones9506 Tragic is how it resolves itself, implying that Jonas made sure he couldn't remember, for better or worse. Right as Kano takes his head off, the screen goes back to "Directive: Protect," stops bugging out, and he says something like "Problem resolved" or the like.
Holy crap, Jonas defense of creating Venturion to team Venture is eerily identical to Rusty defending his Joy Can and other unscrupulous experiments.
Where do you think Rusty gets it from.
Hopefully he’s learned his lesson now.
They even have the same tone of voice.
I love everyone who is pointing out all the intricate details surrounding this character and how they've been alluded to and woven around.
I also love that Dr. Z just installed a "Good/Evil" switch on his noggin.
Yep. Here's ya problem. Someone set this thing to "Evil".
Dont forget the Radio Shack bulk eraser (electromagnet) to erase his memory.
Implying that might not have already been included.
Another hint to Rusty being a clone is that the date on Venturion's view says 1977, and Rusty looks about 10 years old, when in the Spanakopita episode flashback we saw that Rusty was around the same age ten years earlier, in the late 1960s.
I love how more and more the series goes, we see how shitty Jonas Venture SR really is. Originally it was just nepotism, now Rusty’s feelings are completely justified
Interesting how as the years passed the rest of team Venture began to mature but Jonas stayed the same. They started to grow apart from Jonas, which explains why they weren't in Gargantua-1 movie night massacre.
I know this is 6 months late, but the only reason the team wasn't at the massacre was that they were late. Hell the only reason Jonas is still alive in any capacity, is because the team retrieved his body from space and put his head in the PROBLEM machine.
@@MultiBoxingKid "You're worse than Jeannie, Horace!!"
MultiBoxingKid yeah but it shows that they weren't participating in all of his ventures
It makes me sad whenever Malcom Cries in the flashbacks. He was just trying to have fun and spend time with his family, but sadly like his dad, he too was met with the misfortune of Jonas's cruel and selfish behaviour which lead to the loss of his family and his unsettling transition into becoming the Monarch.
Killed in 1976 in the plane crash....Dr Z found Venturion in the dumpster in 77...Jonas lost interest in his "friend" in less than a year!
Love the idea that Dr Z uses Venture's inventions against Him, a true Supervillian through and through
But even he looks thoroughly disturbed by what Jonas did.
@@rosesweetcharlotte but not disturbed enough to put Venturion down for good.
He might have wanted to have him get revenge if he was never arrested
Dr. Z is the most ethical character in the entire show, aside from maybe Hank.
"Who the DEVIL is Venturion?"
"ASUPERCOOLROBOT!"
Always gets me.
This is more proof that team Venture cared more for Rusty than his father ever did
But their all still dicks
It just occurred to me that there's a chance Sovereign/"Bowie" knew who Vendata once was and assuming if he did cause the massacre, he offered him a seat on the Council and omitted the Blue Morpho notes from the Guild.
There really is no coincidence for why Don/BM/Venturian/Vendatta ended up as Councilman 1.
I fully believe that blue morpho always planned to do the massacre, and a little part of him remembered and wanted revenge
@@Flarflenugen If that isn't a PRIME example of calamitious intent, after all, what is?
Even if it was arguably an accident..... so much carnage. so much death.
It's bad to recover the body of the friend whose life you ruined and turn him into an abomination, but that also means he didn't bother to look for his friend's son, whose body was surely not there.
And what about his wife? The woman he impregnated? Did he try nothing to help or save her?
@@rosesweetcharlotte he possibly did, and she ended up becoming MUTHER
@@battlesheep2552 No, don't do this to me
@@moelester634 Rusty's baby momma? How does that line up?
@@battlesheep2552 nvm I meant Jonas wife
Lets be perfectly honest here.
If all it took to make Vendatta "Evil" was the installation of a minimally invasive switch on the back of his brain casing...
...Jonas had ALREADY incorporated the ability to program Vendatta to do and act however his handler pleased
I never thought about it, but you're right. He used the Blue Morpho in life to do whatever he wanted and he intended to do that in death.
It says something that even the villains thought Venturion's existence was cruel and believed it would be better to put him out of his misery
And that they thought he was cool. Like, really, Dr. Z saw his worth while Jonas was happy to throw him away. Yes, he was horrified, but he also saw this cool, amazing robot and saw its potential. That is so much more than Jonas did
I just realized that he could have cloned him. This makes this even more sinister.
Oh my God your right...
that's after he either seduced or r worded Blue Morpho's wife. we don't know which. We just know in the flash back, BM was wondering if he was infertile not her, Jonas leared at her picture and said "hey, bring her around my science is potent..." After everything we've found out that Jonas did, do you really think he wouldn't simply take what he wanted?
It seems to be implied that the clones have to age in real time. So he could have cloned him as a baby. He also wouldn’t have the memory backups, which he gets from the learning beds.
@@matt_1984_Given the whole situation, it wouldn't shock me if he did rape the Morpho's wife. I mean, I'm sure he didn't hold her down and rape her, but I can certainly see him manipulating her or even drugging her.
The funny thing is I really do believe Jonas could have easily "saved his friend's life" at the very least by making him a replica of his old body and preserving as much of his original thoughts and memories as possible, but he instead chose to wipe his memory clean, dress him up in a Halloween costume and parade him around like a toy with the Venture logo slapped onto him. I also know there's the whole debate of whether or not "bringing him back" in the first place was even the right thing to do, seeing as how Blue Morpho didn't ask for any of this, especially since Jonas didn't even do the same thing for his wife. It's pretty crazy how the stuff he didn't do makes Jonas as much of a monster as the stuff he already did.
Because Jonas is the kind of guy who puts himself first, EVERY TIME. There’s never a moment where Jonas is actually putting someone else first, not even Rusty. And he’s such a good gaslighter and manipulator that he makes everyone think he’s the hero.
He treats his friends and family as experiments, he manipulates and tortures people, he leaves kids to die in dangerous situations, and then he turned his friend into a roboslave after blackmailing him for years…
Rusty may be completely ignorant about Hank and negligent towards Dean’s mental health, but Jonas was downright manipulative and malicious.
Fuck Jonas.
And then throughout the whole thing, he forces the Blue Morpho's friends to bare witness to it all. They had to let him basically be a toy to Jonas until Kano finally had an excuse to put him out of his misery
Love that Venture was more perplexed that his team expressed distain over his "accomplishment" instead of praise. Makes you released Rusty, while still fucked up, is still more of a human being than his father.
That's the beauty of failure. If Rusty had been rhe successful super scientist he always wanted to be, he would have been exactly like Jonas. Instead, through his failure, he was able to be a much, much better father and friend.
It's official: Jonas Venture Sr. is not just a monster, but the evilest person to ever live and hopefully he's dead for good.
joethehero2 osi does have his brain they could recover him
『Fizzy pop』 VEVO Which could bring a lot of problems to the table, cause Jonas could cause more shit
@@jarintylerglenn and more casualties
@@KellyCalKelsey Knowing what a glib sociopath Jonas already was about ruining lives and engineering nightmares, I can't imagine the kind of thing's he'd come up with for OSI after waking up completely severed from all sensation, and with only his own thoughts for company.
He referers to the henchmen who betrayed him as a bungler. Great call back.
Team Venture has boundaries? Who knew.
don't drag down the rest of team venture with Jonas they meant well they were just not good with kids.
Team Venture as a whole? Yes.
Jonas? Not even close.
@@gentlemanmaniac9992 The Action Man was not good with anyone, he is easily the worst after Jonas himself, well at least he has the excuse that that whole super-soldier thing probably messed his mind like it did with Hatred.
@@g.sergiusfidenas6650 wasn't the Action Man on on combat drugs for years?
@@joethehero2 yes, I think so plus whatever trauma he also got working for that fucker Jonas, he was a still a POS responsible for a lot of the things Rusty went through.
Makes you realize that had one of jonas villains successfully killed him the world would be much better for it
Dr. Z created Vendata, who (probably) opened the doors on Gargantua, so ultimately, one of his villains DID kill him
@@milliganpaul7900 I still say thats the case, even after all that they did to him, he (as Vendata) probably still remembered his hatred for Jonas, even if he couldnt remember why the hatred existed. So he orchestrated his death in a sort of subconscious manner. Dr Z was only a piece of the puzzle, restoring him to functionality.
All it took was one bad decision to set the man once known as the Blue Morpho on this path. He cheated on his wife, wound up being blackmailed by Jonas for years because of it, and to top it all off Malcom, as it turns out, is actually Jonas' son instead of his. And that's not to mention how he was used even after death like a toy. And all it took was one night. One tape. And one horrible excuse for a friend.
It gets worse. He wouldn't have even met Jonas if he hadn't saved his life. This all started because he was just trying to be a good hero.
@@rosesweetcharlotte wow just when you think you can't hate Jonas anymore
Bad. Friend.
@@Lonelyweirdo96 you can definitely hate Jonas, because Malcolm meeting Jonas was the worst day of Malcolms life, and the catalyst to what he eventually became.
Spoilers
And new light, we have found out that Malcolm is......
just a rusty clone with ape DNA
When Action Man is disgusted by your actions, you know you're beyond help.
Also Dr.Z got sent to a SuperMax for cocaine possession must be some strict laws in Singapore.
Yeah, Singapore is tough on drugs
@@kyleshea384 it didn't even look like alot of it either
Singapore has a below zero tolerance for drug possession, you can actually be executed for it
Dr Z was using a bulk eraser on Venturian's brain, lol!
What's so funny about that?
@@BokanProductions he was using something usually used to blank reel tape on someone's brain.
Oh, well that actually is pretty funny.
There's something about a Saturday morning cartoon villain hiding 3 kilos of cocaine in his lab that cracks me up
The great Dr. Z, arch-enemy to some of the greatest scientific minds of the time, reduced to drug smuggling to keep the lights on.
Talk about a side hustle
You know Jonas went to far when his own freaking team called him out on what he had done.
aderose especially action man rodney isn’t exactly the most stable human alive
lmao even Action Man was like "too far, man"
A lot of the show's issues seem to have been caused by Jonas...
That's what's amazing. This is a big story about heroes and Villains... But with a mysterious puppet master that truly is behind everything.
I believe you mean "all".
@@RaptorJesus to be fair some could be blamed on the investors.
@@gentlemanmaniac9992 to double that, Not all can be blamed on Jonas. I mean... yeah... like a good... 60? 70? percent of it. But other then that, Rusty, The Guild and The Investors were to blame.
Jonas was not a good person.
I love the fact dr. Z got arrested because another villain snitched on him for drugs and not all the super villain shit he was doing
Seemed a little over complicated 2 me.
it's worse that guy is one of his henchmen
Not even a villain, one of his minions.
Not Guild approved means not the Guild's problem.
Four years later: No, it's not just that. Dr. Z didn't inherit his super scientists or amazing venture capitalists parents money. That dude built an evil empire starting with nothing but will. Man is my god damned hero.
Jonas scavenged a wrecked plane for the remains of the blue morpho but doesn't bother with the young monarch
This show is so wild yet tightly written. One of my all time favorite
Bhahaha I want to see more of the arch Dr. Z did on Jonas. Lol, the army of Helpers shooting at Jonas with Dr. Z riding some big machine and laughing menacingly. Now that’s an arch right there!
When he screamed in defiance "A super cool robot!!!", that solidified Dr.Z's reputation for me right there as being the best old villain.
What's funny is that up until that point the doc had no idea that he found and reprogrammed the guy that he had sex with.
Explains why they got recalled.
“Bah! When dr. Z harasses you, you'll know it!!”
@@BokanProductions You know, I always forget that detail. Adds a fun element to the fact that they were on the council together with how Z programmed Vendatta.
Jonas Venture recovered Blue Morpho's body, but didn't rescue his own son who survived the crash. That boy grew up to be The Monarch.
Or do anything to save the mother of his son. He essentially kidnapped the Blur Morpho just to keep using him as a tool.
I know Johnny Quest is an actually character in this show...
But what happened here is Doctor Benton Quest went into the dark side and brought back to life his friend, the Green Hornet, as a cyborg, much to the disapproval of Allan Quartermain, with the technology later used by Omni Comsumer Products and the underfunded Detroit Police Department.
he's not johnny quest anymore he's action johnny
@@angel7661 Same character, different name.
that was Jonas Venture Sr in the flashback, not Dr Benton Quest.
agreed
Well, Jonas Sr is more Doc Savage than Dr Quest to be honest.
1:03
“no no no, error synapse. Problem solved”
right as his head is torn off.
It's weird to think that Brock only punched Vendatta 4 months before all this happened.
I'm pretty sure the good/evil switch is just a joke but i want to believe Jonas just put that there in case he ever got bored of venturion and wanted an easy way to get rid of him
I think he intended to use him to pretend to he a villain, just like how he used the Blue Morpho
I love how he just had to turn the witch from good to evil. Like Jonas programmed an Evil side just in case XD
I liked him better with his little moustache. Who else is low key hoping he was the one that opened the bay doors. I mean, granted a lot of innocent people died in space, but still Jonas had it coming.
If that was how he treated his friends, then you can only imagine how he treated everyone else. This makes me think it could have been anyone on that station who wanted payback.
There's a really nice hypotheses running around that it was Colonel Manstrong when he was a paperboy. Since he wasn't killed on that night, one has to wonder what was he doing during the movie screening.
Some think he wandered into the control room and found Vendata's sex tape. He got so shocked at his first sexual experience that he accidentally opened the bay doors, probably by resting or falling on it.
The trauma of knowing he had murdered everyone was too much and it's the reason he's so ashamed of any sexual displays. It also explains why he chose to say Ghost Spaceman did it, as it's the way a young boy would rationalize murder, by making up an excuse about someone else doing it.
@@faustalexander2585 i like that theory.
in a later episode it is revealed that he DID open the bay doors, out of spite.
@@faustalexander2585 That's not murder, that's barely even manslaughter.
Even a super villain knew that was an awful fate.
The evil Helpers made me lose my shit laughing!!!
What's funny to me is how *incompetent* these heroes and villains are often portrayed. They're ridiculous, flawed in ways well beyond literature, and often just straight up act like dude-bros, party animals, or just depression-targets. But what do we see? Dr Z snagged for a drug bust. Presumably he's going into a super-max prison with damn near nothing to work with, and he busts out. He doesn't say he did his time or got released or anything. He "escaped". When compared with the day to day world, these goofballs are actually still a legitimate force to be reckoned with. It puts things in perspective when you're otherwise desensitized and see them all as walking jokes.
wait, the boy in the plain crash, that was the Monarch, the same crash where he lived among the monarch butterflys, OF COURSE!!!!!!
Pretty sure jonas caused the plane crash and was happy his harem of friends were disgusted but not suspicious.
Wow did my head explode from this revelation
0:20 you know you've gone too far when your pack of pet psychos objects
I love that Dr. Z wipes his memory using a magnet. I mean, some comedy really writes itself.
A magnet is how you erase an old school hard drive but more importantly, we’re not gonna point out those 14 bricks he had .
"Kano hasn't spoken a word, since," so it was having to put down his friend's carcass that made him take the vow of silence. Poor guy.
Knows if he had still been partnered with Blue Morpho then no one would have been able to tamper with the plane (look at the attention he's paying to them working on the X-1), having to watch the ghost of his friend shuffle around the compound, and then having to put him down with his bare hands.
Doubley sad that
A) Had Venturion wanted to actually hurt Rusty, that boys neck would have been snapped off, by sheerest virtue that he's trying to save his child in the error-flashback, Rusty lives
B) He had realized his error enough to release the child, Kano didn't have to force it (but made the smart move, knowing all the things Jonas Sr could have built into this thing for it to suddenly spring out while melting down) before he snapped his head off
I think Kano was just sick of seeing his friend's corpse be turned into a sick toy for Jonas to play with
Anybody else think Jonas was the one who killed blue morpho for the bounty?
Love the line "some BUNGLER dropped dime" it's such a classic villain thing to call some screwup a "bungler" lol
I find it ironic that Jonas ultimately suffered the same fate as Blue Morpho did when Team Venture shoved his remains in P.R.O.B.L.E.M. and he got left there for 20ish years.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Blue Morpho's comeback in the final film.
why the hell would Dr Venture put a good and evil switch on his personal robot?
Simon Tuell check all the robots now even H.E.L.P.eR. Since we know Rusty didn’t build him.
I think the show made it pretty clear even though Jonas is a hero by profession he doesn't have the morality of a hero. Since he was using Blue Morpho to do his dirty work. The good/evil switch is probably for when he wanted Venturian to do bad.
Only seems to appear after Z started working on him, maybe that was his idea.
Because Dr. Venture was a prick and a villain.
@@hypnodance Yeah, this is a show with a lot of grey areas. I expect a good/evil switch on Power Rangers.
Not even a funeral. The guy was just thrown into the trash by the original team Venture until Dr. Z found his mangled remains.
We don't know if the original Venture team realized that he was literally thrown in the trash. And I imagine they were just happy to get him away from Jonas
I love that Kano just no mercy’d the fuck outta Venturion. Just didn’t think twice. That’s dedication to the job.
I mean, think about how many months be had to look at what was basically his dear friend's corpse and how it was reduced to being a slave to a horrible man. And now the poor thing that used to be a man is so confused that it's attacking a child for no reason.
Dr.Z has a better moral compass then venture
Like how screwed up is that
I love how even Action Man was disgusted by Venture's action
Who else think it was Jonas Venture who shot down the Blue Morpho’s plane?
Dude, even Sr's pocket pair of psychopaths thought this was inhumane. Says a lot, doesn't it?
You would imagine kano would be way more angry withh jonas senior
Maybe at least like punch him.
And then what? The scary thing about Jonas is that he put people in a position where killing him might make the situation worse.
Jonas liked to act like he was helping his old friend, but if he was actually doing it to bring him back, he wouldn't have designed him to be a walking, talking testament to his ego that's literally branded with his name. He didn't do it to save the blue morpho, he did it to see if he could.
Not to mention it's entirely possible he could have been doing it to make sure he lived forever too, just pop his brain into a robot body and bam, the world is stuck with an immortal Jonas.
So that's why sometimes Kano did and didn't speak later and there were contradictions concerning whether and how he had anything to do with so-and-so's death. Clever of the writers to reveal it this way.
This was the moment I realized that Rusty and Jonas were far more alike than either realized.
Really speaks that even Dr Z thought it was fucked up to turn a human into a machine
Jonas caring only for people with if they are useful to him or not, i believe Jonas only turned Morpho into Venturion just to get research data for his own life extension machine project, that why Jonas got bored of Venturion
Lmao, Dr. Z is erasing Venturion's memory at 1:45 with an old Radio Shack bulk tape eraser.
One of the things that has often troubled me about the Monarch's back story is that he doesn't remember playing with Rusty, but he remembers his childhood home as well as his life after the plane crash extremely vividly. I've often wondered if Monarch is also a clone and the original Malcom was killed in the plane crash along with his parents, which would explain why his memories are so fragmented and he only remembers certain things regarding his childhood (much like Hank and Dean). It just seems very unlikely that a young child would survive a plane crash but not his parents. Assuming Malcom is Jonas' child, it would make sense that he would've kept clones of him much like Rusty.
Or the wreck caused some memory loss. He was able to remember bits and pieces of how his dad and mom were but the earliest interaction with Rusty was wipped out.
If we take Myra's word about the true ages of Hank and Dean, then Rusty (depending on how many clone slugs were produced) would more than likely be in his early to mid 60s as opposed to the 42/3 years old stated in Return to Spider Skull Island and the college era
So Dr. Z not only slept with the Blue Morpho, he later rebuilt and reprogrammed his cyborg corpse.
I just realized the fact all he did to make him evil was flip a switch that was already there, like Jonas built him specifically to be able to do whatever he wanted.
Dr. Z: "I erased his memory."
Uses large magnet to erase his memory.
I think a lot more attention should be paid to the Good / Evil switch gag. Yea, it’s supposed to be a light joke, but in context of the show it is evidence that Jonas preinstalled an evil mode for Blue Morpho.
Just another check on the Jonas Venture is an Evil Scientist box. No need to blackmail Blue Morpho when you can just flick a switch to make him do your dirty work.
So let’s get this straight: It all started with the Guild, back in its found fathers it’s mission was to protect an ancient object of great power called the ORB. After that event the Guild later became the “Guild of Columns intent” so Colonel Venture quits the Guild and became an inventor of Super science.
After that Jonas was born and followed his father’s super science career, but expanded to explore the world seeing lost civilizations and creatures. He fought many villains not just the Guild of Columns Intent but villains like Dr. Z, Scarumantrula, Brainulo and L Ron Hubbard. On the way he created Team Venture. Colonel Gentleman a James Bond man, Action Man a super soldier, Swifty a African American boxer, Kano a master of the martial arts, Humongaloid a man with (super) Gigantism, and that aquaman reject guy and a caveman and the Blue Morpho.
As time goes on Jonas has a wife or lover pregnant with his son(s). And when Rusty was born he became his father’s traveling companion, side-kick, and young test partner. In 86 Blue Morpho’s plane crashes, Malcolm (The Monarch) survived and was raised by Monarch Butterflies. Jonas saved the Blue Morpho by turning him into a Venture Robocop. Rusty went on many adventures with his father and it mentally scared him for life. Then when Rusty is a teenager he goes to college and wants to make his own name, while his father at his space station a paper boy watches the blackmail tape of Jonas and Blue Morpho having sex with a couple of celebrities. He accidentally opens the cargo doors releasing the entire crew including Jonas. Team Venture tried to save him but Kano slips on one of Rusty’s old cowboy toys breaking Jonas’ frozen body like glass leaving his head intact.
After that Brock is forced to quite college and joins the army then is transferred to the OSI, to battle SPHINX. As for Peter White he hoists a game shower there he meets Billy and they somewhat became friends until Billy is signed by Brock and his partner/father figure Hunter to find the guild.
At the college Billy meets Pro. Fantamos who is a cripple man wearing prosthetic arms to hide his true arms. He created a machine that was meant to fix his limbs but instead turn them into electrical invisible limbs that can kill someone just by touching them.
As for the Monarch he joined some villains groups as a henchman before becoming his own, then Hank and Dean are born. Under the Venture Compound Rusty or Thaddeus as he’s called clones his sons incase of emergencies, and Broke’s hired as his bodyguard after the previous one went crazy.
As years go by the Venture bros gone on many adventures until JJ was born almost trying to kill Rusty but changes his mind after he shows him mercy. As for Pro. Impossible he was so caught up in his work even ignoring his wife’s child till finally she leaves him and became a train wreck.
After Monarch and Dr. Girlfriend were about to get married Phantom Limb tried to crash their wedding and steal Dr. Girlfriend and the Guild at the same time. But failed went crazy even started a group callee “The revenge society” consisting of a shoe, a mug and a toaster. He even used Billy to join the heads kf two of the oldest members of the guild to know about the ORB.
After JJ’s death Thaddeus inherits his brother’s tower and became rich until he found out his father wasn’t dead nor the Blue Morpho so both he and the Monarch got to meet their dads again until Jonas ends up accidentally killing them both. And all this after Dean goes through a life searching after finding out he’s a clone, Hank falls in love with a villain’s daughter and they keep it a secret.
Is there anything I missed?
No that's a decent summary
The Revenge Society turned into a proper team with actual recruits after the attempt at getting the ORB and the discovery that it was broken a long time ago. And he had Billy graft those two's heads together because at least one of them was about to die and that was his way of keeping them alive for their knowledge.
Also, the aftermath of Brock's mission involving Billy and Fantasmos had him effectively demoted to babysitting duty for Rusty Venture, with the actual objective being to make sure he didn't find and use the power of the ORB (the latter happened but not the former, with Rusty electing to study it to determine whether or not it's a danger to humanity and if it could be safely utilized for mankind's betterment.
Brock also left OSI thanks to his old flame's manipulations and the clones of the boys were all killed off (as Hank and Dean were death prone and the clones acted as backups but got used here to try and force a stalemate). He joined SPHINX alongside his old mentor, Hunter Gathers and some OSI defectors before the organization re-merged into OSI after its leader passed the mantle on to Hunter.
"Reprogramed him for evil" is far more sinister when you realize Jonas had that labeled as a switch
Wow, even Team Venture is outraged. When a full on psycho like Action Man can't take it, you know it's some fucked up shit! But OMG! A good/evil switch! That's some good ole 70s style villany from Dr. Z.
I can’t help but chuckle that it was a narco bust that got Z in jail. XD
One of my favourite moments in animated history: Globally Renowned Supervillain Dr Z, thwarted by his own henchman who busted him on a drug sting.
That Good/Bad switch is there before Z even changes his look or anything, implying Jonas put a goddamn Good/Bad switch in there just for the laughs of it.
At this point im not surprised.
So did Jonas Venture ignore Malcom in the wreckage of the filed after the crash to create Vendetta?
I like how even the original team Venture was disturbed by What Jonas did.
The team were assholes, Jonas was just flat out evil.
I love how he left the option for good on him