@packyp3836 I'm not sure it's ever been the best option but there were definitely times people could draw their entire decks and when that happens exodia will show up more often
It’s not that the meta is full of setup sweepers, but that the setup sweepers are too good. Plenty of metagames end up with multiple viable sweepers but ditto only tends to get usage when the defensive checks aren’t enough so it’s a very good indicator of when a metagame is too offensive and unhealthy
It's very niche so it definitely won't be OU, and if it ever rises into OU then it's cause the metagame is broken and something needs to be done (in this case I'd say the main problem is Zamazenta being stupidly broken
@@nero9506 Is it ? I feel like Zamazenta can be walled very effectively by Moltres and Zapdos, Unaware, Bulky Poison-types / Tera Poison, Rocky Helmet. Though I see how easily it can beat unprepared opponents. Also I don't use Kingambit so that might be the biggest reason I don't care as much
@@MMW1299yeah, gen 8. It was because Dynamax had a tendency to create unstoppable sweepers due to the stat boosting and weather setting effects of max moves, so ditto rose to counter them. It wasn't exactly a balanced metagame
@@MMW1299 That was Gen 8. Ditto let you steal your opponent's boosts from Max Airstream and Max Knuckle/Ooze and outspeed them, copying their fully set up Dynamax sweeper without burning your own Dynamax. You may recall that Dynamax in its entirety was banned for being broken. If Ditto is good, something is very wrong.
Ditto is an interesting case- it’s only as good as the mon it transforms into; that’s why it’s a mainstay on Ubers and NatDex Ubers stall teams (Edit: DESPITE BEING NU) as it can Transform into common wallbreakers such as Swords Dance Groudon/Peedon and RK their entire team with Choice Scarf.
hatterene does not quad resist psychic! switching was the best play still though also i'm glad to see the current point of the meta is "ditto is good but not necessary" ; when you have to run ditto that's a sign of things going south. just like blissey going back to ou
@@gnomefrompinkerton look up blunder tournament coverage video "Finally. Maushold in Official Smogon Tournament." or something of that nature. crying brings non-choiced ditto a lot in tournaments - it completely destroys regen stall - but firium z is next level stuff
Ditto has been my favorite mon ever since Gen 5 dropped. It's so much fun to use in competetive (and even for playthroughs after Gen 5 - just trade one in when starting the game). It's a derpy little blob and I (almost) only use teams that have one in it. It's the most basic and most the versatile Pokémon simultaneously, and that's why I love it
@@Leo-nm1ne The versatility comes from the Pokemon it transforms into you dunce. Who said you can build it however you want? The point is that it can adapt to the matchup. So it's versatile.
Ditto always has a niche in ou and ubers ever gen since five like how ribbombee is good in ubers and probably will be unless they make a better sticker webber which they might at this rate
Just tried Ditto after watching this video and my enjoyment of this game has skyrocketed. Dumb veil HO and fat stall rly has become polarizing with very little balance teams. So, Ditto definitely has helped me against both today and improved my enjoyment
i used a ditto on a team in gen8 AG. instead of using scarf i used it with a sash. gave me more flexibility for the rest of the opponents team if i run into boosters that was basicly everywhere in gen 8 AG with dynamax beeing everywhere. it also suprised a lot of people.
Game freak really loves their broken pokemon. "Ditto is not allowed to turn into ogerpon well-spring because it is SPECIAL! We cannot have a single loop-whole or weakness to our gimmick mon." It's crazy
Ditto is also great because a lot of people think its garbage so somebody might not take him seriously and lose half a team, however experienced players know that it can be a pain in the ass so they have to put a lot of thought in the play lol
I wonder if it's time to run Coaching in singles... Actually, I did use something similar in a run of Unbound. I hit Maxima's Contrary Serperior with Rock Tomb so I could then take the ensuing speed boost and sweep with it.
Ditto has been in most of my teams since it got impostor, its numbers are way higher than the rest of my pokemons overall, i don't understand how it wasn't more popular in the past gens OU lmao. Its potential ceiling is higher than any other pokemon because it's limited by different factors, it easily turns battles around or literally ends them and it's relatively low effort. And even if you decide to sacrifice it you can always do it in a useful way.
Of course out of all the fucking gens to not give Ditto access to quick powder, the held item that doubles its speed after transforming, this is the one they settle on. The one where Ditto would actually benefit from it because depending on the Pokémon it copies it would literally outspeed 95% of the metagame without boosts. Not to mention if they gave it metal powder, which doubles it's defense which would more than make up for its 48 HP stat and make it the ultimate anti-setup 'mon against dragondancers and anything not spamming calm mind or quiver dance. Thanks again, GF.
@@gefadsfrrewdgfbt5811 quick powder is better in every way because it *doubles* dittos speed after transforming and doesn't lock it into a move. Works like light ball for Pikachu
Just learned the other day that ditto cannot benefit from protosynthesis or quark drive. Even if sun/terrain is up, ditto will never have the ability activated.
This video was actually made by Iron Pink, the future paradox form of Ditto, in order to boost its present form's visibility to give its future version an advantage. Do not listen to this imposter's lies.
Ditto always becomes decently viable in VGC when the restricted legendaries become legal, effectively allowing you to use 3 of the mons that are only allowed at 2 per team
if anything, i feel like a spike in ditto usage will only serve to discourage the unhealthier elements of the metagame and bring some balance... hopefully
Id say theres some merit to running focus sash ditto as opposed to scarf ditto, focus sash means you can actually pick your moves, and have a better chance at koing roaring moon
It's normal; hyper offense teams use Air Balloon Starmie so that it doesn't take Spikes damage coming in and also so that it can switch in on Mamoswine and Excadrill's Earthquakes.
Hey this a gen3 OU question, how do I deal with cursed Snorlax? Even my special attackers get mopped after 2 curses because they usually spec in special defense and I just usually lose to it. What should I be looking for in my team to help me with this?
ditto does'nt copy the oppoments status. So I would use toxic orb quick feet bellydrum ursaling. It was always pretty good even if it lasted little turns
Its because when a meta has stabalized and OP centralizing threats have been banned, Ditto isn't rlly needed. If Ditto is on almost every team, then the meta is not healthy lmao.
It should be noted that Imposter does copy Unburden itself, however you would need to run a consumable item to actually trigger it, which is way less broadly applicable than Choice Scarf.
Everyone is worried that ditto is gonna rise in usage but I think they are downplaying the drawbacks of this little guy. He's pretty decent but not ou power level
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This Zapdos set slaps. It can sub on toxic Gliscor and just sit on it. So satisfying
Ditto is the canary in the coal mine for a meta, if Ditto usage spikes something is _very wrong_
Honestly a great way to put it lmao.
That reminds me of how exodia is in yugioh. If it's viable then there is too much broken draw
Nice analogy
@@ianjordan8964when has Exodia ever been viable?
@packyp3836 I'm not sure it's ever been the best option but there were definitely times people could draw their entire decks and when that happens exodia will show up more often
I simply cannot believe that Ditto would be good in a metagame full of set up sweepers. Color me impressed.
Ditto is excellent against set up sweepers because you can turn the tables on them by taking their stat boosts and using them against your opponent.
@@mjdxp5688and guarantee an outspeed from the Ditto by making it hold Choice Scarf
@@mjdxp5688it's ironic
It’s not that the meta is full of setup sweepers, but that the setup sweepers are too good. Plenty of metagames end up with multiple viable sweepers but ditto only tends to get usage when the defensive checks aren’t enough so it’s a very good indicator of when a metagame is too offensive and unhealthy
Ain’t that literally when it’s at its best lmao?
I hope this doesnt make ditto OU. Ditto is a mon that should be available in every tier. It will never be broken because it is a reactive mon.
It's very niche so it definitely won't be OU, and if it ever rises into OU then it's cause the metagame is broken and something needs to be done (in this case I'd say the main problem is Zamazenta being stupidly broken
@@nero9506 Is it ? I feel like Zamazenta can be walled very effectively by Moltres and Zapdos, Unaware, Bulky Poison-types / Tera Poison, Rocky Helmet. Though I see how easily it can beat unprepared opponents. Also I don't use Kingambit so that might be the biggest reason I don't care as much
@@nero9506 correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Ditto OU in Gen 7 or 8?
@@MMW1299yeah, gen 8. It was because Dynamax had a tendency to create unstoppable sweepers due to the stat boosting and weather setting effects of max moves, so ditto rose to counter them. It wasn't exactly a balanced metagame
@@MMW1299 That was Gen 8. Ditto let you steal your opponent's boosts from Max Airstream and Max Knuckle/Ooze and outspeed them, copying their fully set up Dynamax sweeper without burning your own Dynamax.
You may recall that Dynamax in its entirety was banned for being broken. If Ditto is good, something is very wrong.
A ditto video where ditto wins through sheer mental pressure on the opponent, this is insane
"he's just standing tthere.........menacingly"
This is how I feel about dugtrio
I really loved using Ditto in X Y to copy opponent megas, always felt so nice to copy pokemon like mega aero or salamence
I used it in USUM to copy ultra necrozma. Felt very epic.
This has really transformed my views on Ditto
Ditto is an interesting case- it’s only as good as the mon it transforms into; that’s why it’s a mainstay on Ubers and NatDex Ubers stall teams (Edit: DESPITE BEING NU) as it can Transform into common wallbreakers such as Swords Dance Groudon/Peedon and RK their entire team with Choice Scarf.
I mean it's only as good as the mon it's currently facing. That's why it can/should only be low tier
If Ditto ever hits OU you know something is wrong with the meta
Yup.
hatterene does not quad resist psychic! switching was the best play still though
also i'm glad to see the current point of the meta is "ditto is good but not necessary" ; when you have to run ditto that's a sign of things going south. just like blissey going back to ou
Never forget crying's legendary Firium Z Ditto special. We will never know what she was cookng with that one
@@gnomefrompinkerton look up blunder tournament coverage video "Finally. Maushold in Official Smogon Tournament." or something of that nature.
crying brings non-choiced ditto a lot in tournaments - it completely destroys regen stall - but firium z is next level stuff
Showdown needs a ditto clause so you can use it throughout the tiers
Inb4 ditto goes stupid in LC thanks to its 48 hp actually being decent in that tier
@@jmcbango inb4 tiering in LC doesn't follow standard tiering. As an LC main I'm in lul
@@qweschuningInb4 Dittoer comes out in Gen 10 with the same HP stat as Blissey
@@notme8232 Gamefreak level balancing
@@notme8232 Inb4 you just want to see the world burn... And I'm here for it.
Ditto has been my favorite mon ever since Gen 5 dropped. It's so much fun to use in competetive (and even for playthroughs after Gen 5 - just trade one in when starting the game).
It's a derpy little blob and I (almost) only use teams that have one in it.
It's the most basic and most the versatile Pokémon simultaneously, and that's why I love it
@@Leo-nm1ne The versatility comes from the Pokemon it transforms into you dunce. Who said you can build it however you want? The point is that it can adapt to the matchup. So it's versatile.
@@scoutbane1651you sound like you forgot to take your meds
I found you through Blunder a few weeks ago, I absolutely love your content. Keep it up!
This is insane. I wish I wes a ditto and transformed into Jimothy so I could be as cool as him.
"*Transformed* the meta" I see what you did there
"And once everything is boosted, nothing is."
- Ditto, Gen 9 Meta, Colorized
At this point I'm just watching 2-3 daily videos from you, what a beast!
love when you play a game of pokemon after your informative part
I personally use Red Card Ditto to steal boosts, resist attacks, and spin them out into a disadvantage
Ditto always has a niche in ou and ubers ever gen since five like how ribbombee is good in ubers and probably will be unless they make a better sticker webber which they might at this rate
No, it always has a niche in Ubers because that’s where broken setup mons wind up. If ditto works in OU, something is wrong and broken
5:58 that Latios edit caught me off guard lmao
This is truly insane. Ditto style.
Just tried Ditto after watching this video and my enjoyment of this game has skyrocketed. Dumb veil HO and fat stall rly has become polarizing with very little balance teams. So, Ditto definitely has helped me against both today and improved my enjoyment
This DLC brought boosting OU titans. It's only natural that Ditto would rise back up
Ditto's imposter allow not only counter offense team but also scout opponents skill set, which is really big advantage in competitive match.
i used a ditto on a team in gen8 AG. instead of using scarf i used it with a sash. gave me more flexibility for the rest of the opponents team if i run into boosters that was basicly everywhere in gen 8 AG with dynamax beeing everywhere. it also suprised a lot of people.
So basically, he transformed gen 9 ou by transforming into gen 9 ou
Game freak really loves their broken pokemon. "Ditto is not allowed to turn into ogerpon well-spring because it is SPECIAL! We cannot have a single loop-whole or weakness to our gimmick mon." It's crazy
Woah, Jim little warning next time on the Latios jumpscare. Damn near shit my pants when I felt the G-force
it's an imposter!
Sus
Ditto is also great because a lot of people think its garbage so somebody might not take him seriously and lose half a team, however experienced players know that it can be a pain in the ass so they have to put a lot of thought in the play lol
Ditto is the biggest "I can't synergize by myself" badge I've ever seen in Team previews. #GetGood
Only hit competitive pokemon youtuber Jimothy Cool on the Jimothy Cool TH-cam channel can perform a ditto showcase without using ditto. This is sane.
I did so well in Gen 8 ladder with ditto. Such a GOAT
Also I use quick claw ditto
i love ditto i used in gen 6 and gen7 metas it was fun as hell and made people pissed
I wonder if it's time to run Coaching in singles...
Actually, I did use something similar in a run of Unbound. I hit Maxima's Contrary Serperior with Rock Tomb so I could then take the ensuing speed boost and sweep with it.
Ditto has been in most of my teams since it got impostor, its numbers are way higher than the rest of my pokemons overall, i don't understand how it wasn't more popular in the past gens OU lmao. Its potential ceiling is higher than any other pokemon because it's limited by different factors, it easily turns battles around or literally ends them and it's relatively low effort. And even if you decide to sacrifice it you can always do it in a useful way.
Latios was so impressed by the ditto gameplay he had to come all the way from gen 8 to see
Hey jimothy, ya should check out UUbers community-made tier. Very cool metagame.
One of this days game freak is going to release a mew with imposter as it's ability and it will be over for setup sweepers
Shout to the mad lads who used brightpowder ditto. I won a game because their tyranitar missed earthquake lmao
The dkc2 music is amazing.
Of course out of all the fucking gens to not give Ditto access to quick powder, the held item that doubles its speed after transforming, this is the one they settle on. The one where Ditto would actually benefit from it because depending on the Pokémon it copies it would literally outspeed 95% of the metagame without boosts. Not to mention if they gave it metal powder, which doubles it's defense which would more than make up for its 48 HP stat and make it the ultimate anti-setup 'mon against dragondancers and anything not spamming calm mind or quiver dance. Thanks again, GF.
can it not just run scarf?
@@gefadsfrrewdgfbt5811 quick powder is better in every way because it *doubles* dittos speed after transforming and doesn't lock it into a move. Works like light ball for Pikachu
@@OMIMox True not saying scarf is better, but it def isnt a massive blow to ditto lmao
It's mainly used for breeding in pokemon games.
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Hat doesn’t quad resist psychic although it looks like it does lol
Mb. I still think I should switch there to avoid nuzzle
Impostor sweep, Among Us will live forever
Dittastic video.
Ditgustingly bad pun
Just learned the other day that ditto cannot benefit from protosynthesis or quark drive. Even if sun/terrain is up, ditto will never have the ability activated.
sexy!
We need to wait for Iron Jelly and Great Blob for that...
Aha~ They called, me a fool for using it! But now, you see!
This video was actually made by Iron Pink, the future paradox form of Ditto, in order to boost its present form's visibility to give its future version an advantage. Do not listen to this imposter's lies.
Gosh dang latios flying overhead, they never respect noise complaints
iron mugulis is the ceo of funny business
Ditto is such a good check against low kick kingambit
Ditto always becomes decently viable in VGC when the restricted legendaries become legal, effectively allowing you to use 3 of the mons that are only allowed at 2 per team
This reminds me of gen 8th AG when I used to run ditto to kill zacians and other threats.
if anything, i feel like a spike in ditto usage will only serve to discourage the unhealthier elements of the metagame and bring some balance... hopefully
Usually how it works….usually
When the Ditto is sus
Ditto is my all time favorite pokemon, so this is insane news for me. Lets go, copy boi
Is no one going to mention the random appearance of the Generation 3 Icon Latios ?
I guess Ditto can counter infamous Baton Pass strategies.
Id say theres some merit to running focus sash ditto as opposed to scarf ditto, focus sash means you can actually pick your moves, and have a better chance at koing roaring moon
Ditto is solid. Can struggle against hazards and bulky teams
Honestly ribombie being ou was a sign
Ditto: Here we go again 🎉
Ditto being viable is the sign of a unhealthy meta :[
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT 10 HIT MOVE
Population Bomb.
@@CesarTorres61296 yeah but like
what the fuck
power creep of course
we're gaming folks.
ah yes the famous psychic resisting type
fairy
I like ditto because I dont like using the same team and its a great general sweaper counter
Ditto should be tier tagged "UET"
USABLE EVERY TIER
Scarf Ditto cant outspeed unburden
What was the Latios cameo all about?
What Latios doing? 🤔
Average Shell Smash/Belly Drum Fan vs Average Scarf Ditto Enjoyer
They all forget indeedee is part normal
Oh no :D
- Manaphy
Use Transform on your teammate to copy your own stat boosts :D
I'm just confused why the starmie at 0:52 has a balloon, is that normal?
It's normal; hyper offense teams use Air Balloon Starmie so that it doesn't take Spikes damage coming in and also so that it can switch in on Mamoswine and Excadrill's Earthquakes.
its common in gen5
This is insane
Should have been one of Amoonguss Abillity
Whenever ditto becomes meta in a gen is when I stop playing for a while 💯
Hey this a gen3 OU question, how do I deal with cursed Snorlax? Even my special attackers get mopped after 2 curses because they usually spec in special defense and I just usually lose to it. What should I be looking for in my team to help me with this?
Growl
I just wish they would buff up ditto’s hp to 60. Considering it only keeps this stat and loses a lot of boost machups cz of weak hp.
ditto does'nt copy the oppoments status. So I would use toxic orb quick feet bellydrum ursaling. It was always pretty good even if it lasted little turns
the problem is that quark drive / Protosynthesis isnt given to ditto
ditto is the ultimate high iq pokemon
Ditto is epic
Doesn't Ditto not even beat Sneasler because unburden + same issues with acrobatics lmao
Fairy doesn’t resist Psychic.
what was the random latios about?
Well, it wouldn't be random if there was a good reason for it to be there.
Preparing us for a joke not landing maybe, I was confused as well haha
Plane
cimothy jool video
Hypothetically, if you transform will you have 5 pp on moves that typically have less than 5 pp?
Unfortunately no, 5 is just the upper limit.
Ditto kinda litto.
I still neber understood why didnt hasnt always been ou since impostor like it's extremely oppressing
Its because when a meta has stabalized and OP centralizing threats have been banned, Ditto isn't rlly needed. If Ditto is on almost every team, then the meta is not healthy lmao.
Mans needs to invest more time in his stream audio the peaks are unreal
Does ditto work on unburden Pokémon?
No, Ditto doesn't copy the Unburden boost.
@@tbolt__ ok thanks
It should be noted that Imposter does copy Unburden itself, however you would need to run a consumable item to actually trigger it, which is way less broadly applicable than Choice Scarf.
Everyone is worried that ditto is gonna rise in usage but I think they are downplaying the drawbacks of this little guy. He's pretty decent but not ou power level
Just min-max ditto's HP stat
Smogon 1v1 needs change
Yveltal and cyclizard shouldnt be in the same tier, oobers was made for Mewtwo lugia and hoho not 20% of the metagame