Even if it WAS just the same as a Swytch kit… being able to just go onto a website, see the price and actually buy it would be a huge advantage over the Swytch on its own! Really keen to get one of these on my old Electra Rat Rod Cruiser!
It would indeed, but they would have to introduce some super fast charging. Average android phone charger is 45w no more. That would take serious hours to charge. Xiaomi does 120w charging, it takes 5000mah battery to be charged in 15 minutes.
@@MrYorcekthe fastest phone chargers that don't require a huge brick to carry around are about 100 Watts, should be fine for the kirbebike battery as it would take less than 3 hours to charge from flat which is on par or quicker than most ebike batteries. Even a slower 45 W charger you could trickle charge the battery and it will be done by the time you finish work/school plus the slower charge will help prolong the life of the battery. There's a lot of potential here.
..Great kit, i have one leg so 15 miles is around my limit on a normal mountain bike, this kit will help massively with doing the longer rides i have planned.
I used to design Laser Cutting machines Andy. Retired now, I like the easy fit front wheel solution and it looks well thought out. If I didn't already have a folding E Bike, I would certainly be interested in having one to convert my old (genuine) Raleigh bike. Made here in Nottingham of course...🤔😳😏😏😏🇬🇧
Really impressed with this. I could just about cope with the limited range for my commute but in a previous video, I believe you mentioned the possibility of an extra battery becoming available later that would run in parallel which would certainly satisfy my concerns in that respect. I like the idea of a "sleeper" electric bike so I feel a little safer locking it up outside a shop or wherever and just removing the battery. Can I make a suggestion to improve the convenience/ safety? Maybe for a future version or as an optional extra if it's at all possible without totally redesigning the battery unit. How about being able to adjust the power assist level from near the grips with an up-down toggle? It wouldn't need LED's or anything fancy, just 2 buttons. This could be built into the obviously deactivated throttle unit ;) Just a thought
I think I'm needing this kit! Broke my ankle 4 weeks ago and it's buggered, The range on this seems like it will get me up to the allotment and back, and might even get me home from work!
Sounds like overkill but would love a rear version of this with same battery unit under rear seat. It could look pretty sick particularly with the light strip, and 250w equals 500w plenty of power!
I like the fact you’ve got a light on the front, although to be honest with you for road safety standards, I think you have to have white on the front and red on the back. That’s why people are so concerned. I like the fact it’s easy to pedal, I also like the break adaption, so you can have rim, brakes or disc brakes as well and for the price. It’s a pretty cool unit
Did you actually watch the video at all? He clearly stated the front light will be changed to white, when they become available to buy! Watch the video before you comment!!
I wouldn't worry about wheel slip. l've had a 250w front drive kit (yose power) on my road bike whith 25mm tyres and its only a problem on ice or very mossy areas ect. I think this kit will do well. Looks very neat as well.
I know Gen 1 isn't even out yet 😂 but how long until gen 2 would be available? USB charging would be awesome and happy to wait for it if it's in the 3-6 month range. Looks ace though and I hope it sells really well 👍
I think you definitely have a winner with this mate I have a 1000w homemade ebike but thinking of getting one of these kits to turn my ebike in to a AWD ebike would that be possible with this kit really like this nice one man 👍
Yeah you'd easily be able to stick this on the front and use both. Just stick the pedal assist sensor on unless you know how to splice one throttle to activate both motors.
@@JudeTheTH-camPoopersubscribe yes definitely I was thinking of having the front one like you said on peddle assist and the back hud motor for the times I don't want to peddle at all ✌👍
@@ebikeoutdoors you'll be surprised how much extra hill climbing ability in particular you'd get with a set up like that. Depends if you can set it to continue assisting beyond 15mph.
@@JudeTheTH-camPoopersubscribe that's a very good point about the 15 mph thing at the moment I have a top speed of 28 mph which I'm happy with but could always do with more help on the hills 🚴♀️👍
even on the generic 1kw kits i hot glue everything ! around the controller loom around the hub axle ,where the discharge cables come out of the battery :) been years now never had a problem even in extreme downpours :)
Would love to see how this would perform on an adult trike. I love in Florida were there are thousands of elderly retirees riding trikes daily. I have a very old Sun trike that weighs about 45 pounds. What do you think?
Swytch ebikes originally sold ebike kits under Panda ebikes brand . noticed there battery has an option to be fitted on the rear seat post good way of distributing the weight would be option for your kits if that’s possible free up the handlebars . Swytch kit weakness is lts after sales and a long waiting time like 6 months I know I use to own one.
Got the 2000w. 52 v 20ah kit from andys site .. couldn’t recommend it enough to anybody it’s honestly too good 🔥great support from the team reassured on everything and it all arrived in great time and works like a dream the kit Is plus and play nothing difficult especially cause ive binged watched these videos for years now haha
Looks like an excellent kit. I may get one to put on my brothers hybrid bike as his first ebike. He's 16 and the route to college has him knackered without electric power, it's 6 miles each way approximately.
So if you only use the motor on the hills or maybe bad headwind stretches you might get at least 50 -70 miles out of it ? What about fitting it to a 700c wheel road bike as well
From the math, looks like the charger is a 2Amp charger. Could you give a 5 amp charger? That would be a great improvement and they are basically the same size anyways
Hi Andy, is it possible to fit a 2nd battery/light kit underneath the bike seat? That way you have front & rear lights. What's the fastest kit you sell & is it legal?
when can I get one / test one? I cannot walk much but can ride a bike and as not allowed to drive due to medical shit after 40 years, I really want one of these, got the money to buy one, so when / how can I get my hands on one, not worried if the light is Red, isn't a problem for me
Great product USB port would be good and the light at the front should be a light and phone clamp on the top, may be rear lamp on fly lead .....just saying, bike world complete.
Would you be making a version for the U.S. market with at least a 750 watt hub motor with appropriately sized battery pack? A front mounted bike computer with a large, easy to read touchscreen display in full sunlight is an important feature to have. Or an add-on for modest upgrade fee.
Hi Andy good bike question hall wires on bike the motot wires are lug connection and controller is bullet. I'm make a box fir controller as bags don't last long I've cut both connection of wires can I use choc box connection to save space or bullet connectors but what type can I use it's for 200wat motor controller 45amp battery 52volt thanks
Looking forward to seeing this in Australia, sounds like the laws are similar to the to the here. Just one question, does the motor have enough guts to run a 26inch Tricycle, perfect in place of the Gopher scooters.
Can you the derestricting one or shunt mod it at all or if I buy one could I do that my self would not want too wreck one by doing it for more power ect
Am thinking of getting one of these because I like the no hassle front wheel change - The only issue is with the cadence sensor/pedal assist/PAS setup not being compatible with a totally enclosed BBR60 bottom bracket. But having looked into it, it looks like I can use a Hollowtech II Sensor. But my question is, will the electrical plug from the Hollowtech II fit your system IE: Is the Hollowtech II a generic pedal assist assembly in terms of fitments of electrical plugs ? - Just wondering if you know ! Thanks
Looks great, although does feel a bit like swytch peeps might come after ya 😂 Can you turn the light thing off? Not sure I'd always want that on personally.
Yes it's a similar idea to the swych bike, I said this in a earlier comment, but it's not exactly the same, same concept but not exactly the same, so swych don't have anything unless they own the patent of this actual design and nobody else is allowed to use this type of design ie battery on the handlebar and front wheel motor, which there is no way they do! As Andy says its an evolution. Swytch don't have a leg to stand on to be honest.
How easy is it to remove the battery? I’d use this for commuting but only if it’s easy to remove the battery every time I park. A tiny bit of frustration can add up over days.
Hmm. What’s the NM of toque. Keep on mentioning it’s got it but no mention of the number of it. But I do have to say this is better then the other kit out there.
@@andykirby Haha. Touché. I didn't realise what i'd typed 'til i read your response. I wasn't taking the piss, i was wondering what the lifespan of the battery is as the battery's lifespan is important to me as it'd be used as a disability aid if i could save up for one. Where i live is often very windy and rainy, not to mention extremely cold, how well have you found it functions in these conditions? Cheers.
@@catherinecunningham1811 in previous video it was said around £450 but should come down to £400, I think there is also 2 battery sizes so the smaller for 400 and 450-500 for bigger one at a guess
@@waynebrown926 yeah but 400 quid to get started is not bad at all TBH, I was quoted 1700 as minimum to get a decent E bike, well I got given a brand new 600 quid mountain bike via a boater who realised he would just throw it in the canal the minute it got in the way so gave it to me, yes honest, adding a front drive hub and small power pack is right up my street... well towpath as they are mostly flat so less power needed. I reckon 250w system like this is what I need and at 400 to 500 quid I would go down this route TBH
so offputting with that battery at a slant.please put up a vid showing it a proper angle. after all you state its so easy to correct cant understand why it wasent done .you did mention it at the start
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Even if it WAS just the same as a Swytch kit… being able to just go onto a website, see the price and actually buy it would be a huge advantage over the Swytch on its own! Really keen to get one of these on my old Electra Rat Rod Cruiser!
USB-C charging would make this an absolute game changer
@@tsl56does anyone sell any ebike solar powered bits
It would indeed, but they would have to introduce some super fast charging. Average android phone charger is 45w no more. That would take serious hours to charge.
Xiaomi does 120w charging, it takes 5000mah battery to be charged in 15 minutes.
@@MrYorcekthe fastest phone chargers that don't require a huge brick to carry around are about 100 Watts, should be fine for the kirbebike battery as it would take less than 3 hours to charge from flat which is on par or quicker than most ebike batteries. Even a slower 45 W charger you could trickle charge the battery and it will be done by the time you finish work/school plus the slower charge will help prolong the life of the battery. There's a lot of potential here.
..Great kit, i have one leg so 15 miles is around my limit on a normal mountain bike, this kit will help massively with doing the longer rides i have planned.
I believe that the thinking behind this is spot on. Great idea...
I used to design Laser Cutting machines Andy. Retired now, I like the easy fit front wheel solution and it looks well thought out. If I didn't already have a folding E Bike, I would certainly be interested in having one to convert my old (genuine) Raleigh bike. Made here in Nottingham of course...🤔😳😏😏😏🇬🇧
Hi, I am also considering fitting one of these kits to my 1962 Hercules. Have owned it for more than 40 years and don't want to part with it.
Really impressed with this. I could just about cope with the limited range for my commute but in a previous video, I believe you mentioned the possibility of an extra battery becoming available later that would run in parallel which would certainly satisfy my concerns in that respect. I like the idea of a "sleeper" electric bike so I feel a little safer locking it up outside a shop or wherever and just removing the battery.
Can I make a suggestion to improve the convenience/ safety? Maybe for a future version or as an optional extra if it's at all possible without totally redesigning the battery unit. How about being able to adjust the power assist level from near the grips with an up-down toggle? It wouldn't need LED's or anything fancy, just 2 buttons. This could be built into the obviously deactivated throttle unit ;)
Just a thought
I think I'm needing this kit! Broke my ankle 4 weeks ago and it's buggered, The range on this seems like it will get me up to the allotment and back, and might even get me home from work!
Sounds like overkill but would love a rear version of this with same battery unit under rear seat. It could look pretty sick particularly with the light strip, and 250w equals 500w plenty of power!
I like the fact you’ve got a light on the front, although to be honest with you for road safety standards, I think you have to have white on the front and red on the back. That’s why people are so concerned.
I like the fact it’s easy to pedal, I also like the break adaption, so you can have rim, brakes or disc brakes as well and for the price. It’s a pretty cool unit
They talked about the light in the previous video and it was mentioned the light would be white when sold to public
Did you actually watch the video at all? He clearly stated the front light will be changed to white, when they become available to buy! Watch the video before you comment!!
Average cyclist puts out around 150_160 Watts on the flat without going mad. Giving it the full beans over a short period about 350 Watts.
I wouldn't worry about wheel slip. l've had a 250w front drive kit (yose power) on my road bike whith 25mm tyres and its only a problem on ice or very mossy areas ect. I think this kit will do well. Looks very neat as well.
I know Gen 1 isn't even out yet 😂 but how long until gen 2 would be available? USB charging would be awesome and happy to wait for it if it's in the 3-6 month range. Looks ace though and I hope it sells really well 👍
You will be waiting alot longer than 3-6 monthns mate, your looking at least a year to 18 month's easily.
@@wakinguptothetruth.2566 yeah I suspected so but changing the charging port could be a minor change and thought a quick revision might be possible.
I think you definitely have a winner with this mate I have a 1000w homemade ebike but thinking of getting one of these kits to turn my ebike in to a AWD ebike would that be possible with this kit really like this nice one man 👍
Yeah you'd easily be able to stick this on the front and use both. Just stick the pedal assist sensor on unless you know how to splice one throttle to activate both motors.
@@JudeTheTH-camPoopersubscribe yes definitely I was thinking of having the front one like you said on peddle assist and the back hud motor for the times I don't want to peddle at all ✌👍
@@ebikeoutdoors you'll be surprised how much extra hill climbing ability in particular you'd get with a set up like that. Depends if you can set it to continue assisting beyond 15mph.
@@JudeTheTH-camPoopersubscribe that's a very good point about the 15 mph thing at the moment I have a top speed of 28 mph which I'm happy with but could always do with more help on the hills 🚴♀️👍
even on the generic 1kw kits i hot glue everything ! around the controller loom around the hub axle ,where the discharge cables come out of the battery :) been years now never had a problem even in extreme downpours :)
Would love to see how this would perform on an adult trike. I love in Florida were there are thousands of elderly retirees riding trikes daily. I have a very old Sun trike that weighs about 45 pounds. What do you think?
Yeah it would absolutely work 😁 I don't think the extra weight would be a problem.
Will be cool in hastings i got a Beast of a hill to get up .
Swytch ebikes originally sold ebike kits under Panda ebikes brand . noticed there battery has an option to be fitted on the rear seat post good way of distributing the weight would be option for your kits if that’s possible free up the handlebars . Swytch kit weakness is lts after sales and a long waiting time like 6 months I know I use to own one.
Got the 2000w. 52 v 20ah kit from andys site .. couldn’t recommend it enough to anybody it’s honestly too good 🔥great support from the team reassured on everything and it all arrived in great time and works like a dream the kit Is plus and play nothing difficult especially cause ive binged watched these videos for years now haha
this is brilliant love it with lights and screen
What size wheels are you offering? I saw him mention 'smaller' wheels in the previous video... what about 16" Brompton wheels?
Looks like an excellent kit. I may get one to put on my brothers hybrid bike as his first ebike. He's 16 and the route to college has him knackered without electric power, it's 6 miles each way approximately.
So if you only use the motor on the hills or maybe bad headwind stretches you might get at least 50 -70 miles out of it ? What about fitting it to a 700c wheel road bike as well
From the math, looks like the charger is a 2Amp charger. Could you give a 5 amp charger? That would be a great improvement and they are basically the same size anyways
2A is safer for a battery of this size.
Love the chrome and yes she is absolutely gorgeous beautiful perfection
Great kit ideal for my bro to get about,got no room for battery being full suspension. 👍
Better if you could do a rear version to ballance the weight out.
🤣🤣😂😂Yes Andy.... tell`em again. 💙👊😎
Hi Andy, is it possible to fit a 2nd battery/light kit underneath the bike seat? That way you have front & rear lights. What's the fastest kit you sell & is it legal?
chuck norris can pedal 1000 watts wearing a lumber jack atire
I deffo want one of these 100% and ASAP.
when can I get one / test one? I cannot walk much but can ride a bike and as not allowed to drive due to medical shit after 40 years, I really want one of these, got the money to buy one, so when / how can I get my hands on one, not worried if the light is Red, isn't a problem for me
Can you turn the front light off? Thanks for reply.
Good stuff thx mate.
Great product USB port would be good and the light at the front should be a light and phone clamp on the top, may be rear lamp on fly lead .....just saying, bike world complete.
Kool Andy
Would you be making a version for the U.S. market with at least a 750 watt hub motor with appropriately sized battery pack? A front mounted bike computer with a large, easy to read touchscreen display in full sunlight is an important feature to have. Or an add-on for modest upgrade fee.
Hi Andy good bike question hall wires on bike the motot wires are lug connection and controller is bullet. I'm make a box fir controller as bags don't last long I've cut both connection of wires can I use choc box connection to save space or bullet connectors but what type can I use it's for 200wat motor controller 45amp battery 52volt thanks
Is there an on and off button on the handlebars as I would only want to use it for difficult hill climbs
Looks a great kit.
Interesting Andy. 73 jce
Looking forward to seeing this in Australia, sounds like the laws are similar to the to the here. Just one question, does the motor have enough guts to run a 26inch Tricycle, perfect in place of the Gopher scooters.
Hey Andy! Lovely video! I was just wondering could you install this kit on a fixie bike?
Why dont you have the option to have red or white light. so that it can be mounted for front or rear wheels.. Please do a all wheeled ebike
jejejej Andy, you fixed everything 73 from kb2uew
More batterys more power more speed?
Can you the derestricting one or shunt mod it at all or if I buy one could I do that my self would not want too wreck one by doing it for more power ect
Can you add a second battery
Am thinking of getting one of these because I like the no hassle front wheel change - The only issue is with the cadence sensor/pedal assist/PAS setup not being compatible with a totally enclosed BBR60 bottom bracket. But having looked into it, it looks like I can use a Hollowtech II Sensor.
But my question is, will the electrical plug from the Hollowtech II fit your system IE: Is the Hollowtech II a generic pedal assist assembly in terms of fitments of electrical plugs ? - Just wondering if you know !
Thanks
This looks great 👍
if you need a tester with a Brompton, let me know.
Looks great, although does feel a bit like swytch peeps might come after ya 😂
Can you turn the light thing off? Not sure I'd always want that on personally.
Yes it's a similar idea to the swych bike, I said this in a earlier comment, but it's not exactly the same, same concept but not exactly the same, so swych don't have anything unless they own the patent of this actual design and nobody else is allowed to use this type of design ie battery on the handlebar and front wheel motor, which there is no way they do! As Andy says its an evolution.
Swytch don't have a leg to stand on to be honest.
How easy is it to remove the battery? I’d use this for commuting but only if it’s easy to remove the battery every time I park. A tiny bit of frustration can add up over days.
It just unclips in a matter of seconds.
@@andykirby wonderful. Thank you.
Does anyone know someone who can fix these electric bikes in the midlands like a independance shop
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Hi Steve will this work with a tandem are you selling this Item are you selling this kit do convert the wheel conversion?
Will this be the biggest battery for this setup Andy
Will you be doing 24" wheel s as well wheel a throttle
Yes mate 👍🏼
Hmm. What’s the NM of toque. Keep on mentioning it’s got it but no mention of the number of it. But I do have to say this is better then the other kit out there.
Another great video. Will there be a rear wheel version of this.
No, we do rear wheel kits for high power builds and also 250W rear kits.
It's more the battery type working with the rear wheels
its a good little kit, far better than swytch's offering. ignore the smooth brains andy.
How much will it be Andy please I missed it.
£450
Will the wheels be tubeless tire ready?
will you be making one to fit the Brompton
We have this. Check the description.
The front forks are the wrong way around 🤔
9.49 😮
I would def buy one of these if its £400, will it be that price at all?
£450
👍😀
Hi Andy, the bike I want to convert is the Halfords Carrera Intercity Disc 9-Speed Folding Bike. Is this feasible and practicable? Thanks
Hi, Yes it will, we just need to check the width of the forks, I think its the same as Brompton which we have a special motor wheel for.
Is the wheels compatible with v brakes ?
Yes
Looks good what is your Web site I am interested cheers
www.kirbebike.com
The red light on the front is not good, it would have made so much sense to have made that a proper headlight.
As I've said 99 times now it will be white.
@@andykirby Lol...the question now just has to be, "Is 99 times enough though?"
Ha, ha....don`t answer that.
@@enrobsorussell I watch every upload I've heard you say it once, was reiterating (might as well tell the truth) how stupid it was.
What's the price going to be?
£450
@@andykirby my dude! Ty
What is the life cycle of the battery?
Oh it's 1000s of cycles 😁
@@andykirby Haha. Touché. I didn't realise what i'd typed 'til i read your response. I wasn't taking the piss, i was wondering what the lifespan of the battery is as the battery's lifespan is important to me as it'd be used as a disability aid if i could save up for one. Where i live is often very windy and rainy, not to mention extremely cold, how well have you found it functions in these conditions? Cheers.
How much for the kit Andy
£450
Hi Andy, when will this be available to buy?
August.. kirbebike.com/products/kirbebike-ez-rider-kit
Where can you get them Andy
kirbebike.com/products/kirbebike-ez-rider-kit available August
Too expensive now😢
Isnt that front fork on the wrong way round?
Ffs 🤦🏻♂️
9.49 😮
@@andykirby LOL....
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price
£450
Overall this is a nice kit for cheap.
How much is it? I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere . .
@@catherinecunningham1811 in previous video it was said around £450 but should come down to £400, I think there is also 2 battery sizes so the smaller for 400 and 450-500 for bigger one at a guess
More like £700 for unit does half decent miles
@@waynebrown926 yeah but 400 quid to get started is not bad at all TBH, I was quoted 1700 as minimum to get a decent E bike, well I got given a brand new 600 quid mountain bike via a boater who realised he would just throw it in the canal the minute it got in the way so gave it to me, yes honest, adding a front drive hub and small power pack is right up my street... well towpath as they are mostly flat so less power needed.
I reckon 250w system like this is what I need and at 400 to 500 quid I would go down this route TBH
It's going to be £450
Will it be available for a 20" wheel?
Yes
@@andykirby
Any idea on the price?
Ball park figure would be great
so offputting with that battery at a slant.please put up a vid showing it a proper angle. after all you state its so easy to correct cant understand why it wasent done .you did mention it at the start
It wont go straighter than this on this bike. There you go...🤷🏻♂️
Nice if you don't want to break the law 👍🏻
To be fair this looks like it's probably secretly using a lot more wattage than 250w.
Plz remove them forks my ones bend and twist under braking forks no good 😎👍🏻
Does it come with a thru axle wheel version. ???
Do these kits have regenerative breaking?
No