My favorite aquarium fish is the dwarf gourami. because they have many beautiful features. Just as I had formed a bond with the dwarf gourami, I suddenly lost it. While I was treating problems such as white spots and tail clipping in other fish, I quarantined all fish as a precaution. I treated them with a German-made medicine that is effective against almost every bacteria, parasite and fungus. All the fish recovered and regained their health. (7 neon tetras, 3 platies, 2 dwarf stingrays). Only the healthy Dwarf Gourami's health deteriorated. When I researched the symptoms, I saw that it was DGiV. Medicines containing methylene blue and malachite green suddenly triggered this virus in him, and within 2 days, problems such as color changes, imbalance, and inability to swim began. The fins appeared to be shrunken. The animal is still alive but nothing I try works. So I put him in a bowl with clean oxygen and left him alone. I throw bait next to it from time to time. I think he will die soon. It is very sad that such a magnificent species dies in 2 weeks, 1 month or 1 year. I hope there is a solution to this.
Thanks for posting this interesting video. One of the biggest takeaways from this should be the overwhelming lack of quarantine amongst fish keepers. This is the key to a healthy population. One should assume the new fish are infected and commence a suite of treatments for the common ailments over a period of weeks. In this particular case, it does appear that the fishes are already infected when they arrive in the dealers tanks. Thus the stress of capture, bagging and transport seems to trigger a stress-related drop in immune response. Introduction into new accommodation and being confronted with strange tank mates only compounds the stress. The fish must have already been borderline in the store, before being pushed over the threshold when they succumbed to the challenge and started showing symptoms. By which time it is usually too late. I have seen this disease listed as Dwarf Gourami Iridovirus Disease. This is postulated to be a result of chronic inbreeding when the virus takes advantage of the poor genetics of the species, and proliferates from early development into adulthood. There is no treatment or cure for this virus, and affected fishes should be euthanized. This explanation may account for the fact that only dwarf gouramis are affected, and other species are not. Someone has commented that the condition is caused by Mycobacteria. The symptoms are almost identical to those of the iridovirus mentioned above. This may be near the truth (pending further research), and if it does turn out to be the case, may hold clues to its possible treatment. Mycobacteria are responsible for a disease in freshwater fishes known as fish TB, or tuberculosis. Contrary to the majority of pathogenic bacteria infecting fishes, which are Gram-negative, Mycobacteria are Gram-positive and possess a thick outer wall. This, and other attributes, makes them difficult to treat. The classic treatment has been the antibiotic Rifampicin coupled with Isonicotinic acid. These are not easy to come by. Streptomycin has also been used, but this works best when injected. Erythromycin has been reported to be effective, in conjunction with metronidazole, soaked onto food, but treatment regimes and dosages are hard to come by. Kanamycin and doxycycline are also listed as treatments but accurate information is hard to track down. IF this disease is a mycobacterium, then a number of measures will help improve things and minimise the risks. Increasing the aeration by a lot seems to be important. Keeping the pH at 7 or above helps. Keeping the substrate clean will decrease the numbers of infective units to infect susceptible fishes. Leaving filter maintenance to the point of greatly reduced flow seems to help in trapping mycobacterial particles. Some people have had success using a UV steriliser. Apparently, many infected fishes can live with the mycobacterium for quite some time if the conditions are clean.
I bought 13 Dwarf Gourami 2 years ago, kept them in 150 Gallon, lost 4 of them within a month. They came up with an open wound (Similar you showed at 1:52) on their belly or near to the gills and Stop swimming, Just lying down. When my 5th gourami came up with the same wound I separated it immediately in a small tub with 1 liter water with the Surface Hight of three inches only (No Filter, No Air Stone). I held the fish in my hand and Put a drop of Methylene Blue on it's wound and put 20 drops in it's 1 liter water. I Changed the water three times a day each time added 20 drops of Methylene Blue in 1 liter and put one drop directly on the wound while holding my fish out of the water. 3rd day the wound started to heal and after a weak my fish was healthy. (Caution!!! ... I did not stop giving food during the whole week. I soaked 5 to 7 pellets and put them near the fishes moth if she wants to eat so she did not have to struggle because she cant swim) During this time I completely washed my 150 gallon tank. Removed every plant and gravel or anything except filter and aerator. I have 9 alive Dwarf Gourami for 2 Years. (Alhamdulillah)
(I have more to tell) I don't have any other fish in this tank only 9 Dwarf Gourami, I told you before that I removed everything from the tank except filter & aerator But they chased one another so I put 3 Beautiful Designed Small Mud Pots in the bottom so they at least can hide and avoid chasing stress (I hand wash these pots during water changes because they sit in it and fish poop stick to them). My 150 Gallon tank is located at a place where it faces direct original Sunlight (Only at Afternoon and only for 1 to 2 hour) I change 50% water every week and put only 50 drops of Methylene Blue in 150 Gallon water and additional 20 drops directly to the filter box. At my place I don't need heater in summer but in cold winter I use heater and set temperature to 26°C (78.8°F ). Normally I give them food 3 times a day but in winter I give them at early noon and evening only. They are healthy and happy. They recognize me, I put my hand in water they come and give me kisses only when I am alone. When someone other is around they just hide in their pots. **SAD NEWS** 2 of them jumped out of the water at night in different months previous year (2020). I have 7 of them now. I don't know what was their age when I bought them but they are with me for about 2 years till today . Thanks for reading Bubye.
Witaj. Również miałem 13 sztuk. Obecnie 12. 6 samic i 6 samców. Dwa z nich robią gniazda. Nie wiem ile z nich przenieść do innego akwarium a ile zostawić?
Well done for healing your fish. I would like to say, though, that methylene blue is not a viricide. It acts against bacteria and some fungi. Therefore, from your description I would conclude that the condition was of bacterial origin. Which should bring hope to others who may come across this condition. BTW, methylene blue will kill your filter bacteria, so take care before adding it to your filter.
Thanks for posting this. I did a lot of internet research as well when my two powder blues got this, but you have summarized it nicely. What I learned from your video is that the symptoms vary and are secondary to the real cause.
No problem! I'm glad that it could be of some help, and I'm glad that was your takeaway, and I'm not sure if I could have phrased it any better myself. :)
Thank you for this video, my darling female is dying from the disease. It is heartbreaking to watch her go. They have wonderful personalities. Hopefully, I can find a local breeder. Once again thank you for the knowledge.
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I had five pearl gouramies, 4 gold gouramies and 4 dwarf gouramies. Unfortunately all of them died over a month because of DGD and I'm sure it's due to the fish stores I bought them. I know because other fishes which were living in the same tank are still healthy such as some types of chilides, louches and cat fishes. I am sure about the healthy condition of water in the aquarium as you explained in the video. I have even used UV light and it wasn't useful, so I agree with you that this issue is certainly related to fish farms and fish stores. Thanks for your information.
I'm glad it could offer some insight! I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your fish, hopefully there are some solutions in the future to make sure the gouramis are as healthy as possible. It's always so sad losing completely healthy fish and not really knowing what happening! there is also a ton of misinformation out there so it can be very difficult to figure out what is what. Hopefully the fish farms up their game!
Thanks. I've had our Dwarf Neon Gourami for literally two days, and as I type this, he's almost curled up and gasping his last breaths. I don't know what to do for him? I'm sure he'll be dead by the morning and I will have to take him back to the petshop tomorrow. He was so happy and healthy this morning and when I went to feed him tonight he was curled up and almost belly up just gasping for air. And of course, whenever I take a fish back to the petshop they give you that look. I worked in the industry for six years about a decade ago, and this is the hardest year I've had with fish, but mostly bettas. We don't have many petshops in our area, so I'm running out of choices. I'm starting to think there's something in the water, even the bottled water that I've been using. I'm ready to give up again!
oh man, ive never even heard about this until today. Ive had my dwarf gourami for a couple months now. I definitely hope they dont have dgd but i guess now im aware that its something to look for. this was really informative
Thank you for this video. I bought two male DG's. They're beautiful. One male was bigger and so more dominant. He chose his place in the tank in my floating plants. He would gently chase the other male away from his spot. I noticed his belly started getting bigger. A lot bigger. I thought, he's a pig. He's eating all of the food that floats into the plants. Nope. A couple of days ago I noticed the two males doing a swimming dance. Now I know that it was a challenge and the little Gourami has taken over the bigger ones spot. Now the bigger one hangs out at the bottom and has stopped eating. I know what I must do. I'm sad.
I'm really sorry that you're dealing with this. I really hope that you're okay and safe, and if you need anything or just want to chat, feel free to reach out, and I'll listen. DGD is really difficult to deal with, especially since there being so little information on it in the first place. Stay safe
Hello, Iv just watched your video. Thank you for taking the time to research and pass this on. Iv heard of this before but never had DG before. I bought 3 a week ago for 35 gal com tank as touch wood all seems fine. In your experience, how long does it take for this to manifest if the fish have it? Mine don’t seem far of being fully grown. Thanks
I've lost one from this condition already, and currently trying to revive back two others. It's just crazy that only 2 of the 5 I got have stayed healthy. Water parameters are fine considering it's a community tank with other species in it as well that are thriving
I just got one a few weeks ago, and he isn't very active at all. I thought maybe he was being shy, but the last few days he's been lying on his side at the bottom but will also float at the top... His head has a bump, making his head look almost crooked. I don't think it's bladder issues, because he will swim fine when scared but the filter current took him away when turned on. Very hard to watch.
I feel like one of my blue dwarf G had this he would just lay down and not move much for a few days but now he’s swimming around like nothing happened. Idk what happened I didn’t change anything he just got better
Ty so much for the video I have 5 dg and there so amazing when I wake up and go over to the tank no matter were they am they all come over and follow me around the tank first I though they doing it cuz they want food .but ty again I'm trying to get as much info on these little guys as I love them so much
All of my petco and petshop gouramis have died except for one. A few died to parasites. A couple died mysteriously. And currently have a lethargic powder blue gourami dying right now with no visible symptoms. However, ALL of my gouramis ordered online from Aqua Imports look great, including the females. Because the nearest specialty stores are over 10 hours away, Ive ordered online. Aqua Imports, Dans Fish, and the Wetspot are three that I trust. They all wait for cooler temperatures to ship and only use air mail to mitigate fish stress. Their stock is tripple A. That type of care wont be found at petco.
I'm sorry for the loss of your gourami. 😔 I have 2 d. Gouramis and had no idea this existed. Have had them 1 year. Thank you for letting me know about this disease. Unfortunately, I feel like there are a lot of "new" diseases that are popping up due to the exact reasons you mentioned in the video: inbreeding and poor conditions, and mostly in fish imported from Asia. I had a gold ram with lymphocystis bought from a big box store. It's an immune disease that showed no symptoms until I brought him home. Just the stress of moving to a new tank can trigger immuno-suppressed fish. I totally understand your frustration when trying to find info on DGD, as when I was trying to find info on lymphocystis, it was pretty new and there was a lot of conflicting info and confusion on it. Neon tetras used to be bullet proof, now there's neon tetra disease. Guppies and bettas also have been so inbred that they can be quite delicate now. It's really unfortunate that these things are happening! Again, thanks so much for sharing this info and your experience!
Thank you so much for your kind words! 😊 I'm glad you understand a lot of what I'm talking about, and I totally agree with everything you've mentioned. I especially feel bad because neon tetras are often recommended for beginners, when they tend to not be as hardy as they may have once been. I'm so sorry about your ram, its really difficult dealing with fish disease, especially when a lot of the information is difficult to digest, comprehend and then share with other people. Sorry for the late response, I didn't get a notification on your comment!! I really appreciate your experience and feedback ❤
@@ThrivePetDesign I’ve come up with something: 1. Instead of Dwarf Gourami’s, get Pearl or Honey Gourami’s 2. Instead of Common guppies, get Endler guppies 3. Instead of neon tetras, get cardinal tetras Lesson: Do reasearch before you buy fish, and make sure the fish has stable genetics. 😁
@@Aquafinity totally agree with that sentiment!! There are some really good local breeders that have super strong lines, though. Not all guppies are unhealthy, there are just some really inbred and unhealthy strains. Its just my opinion hobbyists should just be more selective and care more about the genetics of the fish they buy. I think for most people though, it would be easier to follow your guidelines 😊
I had two dwarf gouramis, 2 honey gouramis and 1 sunset gourami. except the sunset all others died over night. had no indication anything was wrong. and all my other fish in the community tank are fine. what could only target only the gouramis and at the same time? can DGD affect all of the gouramis at the same time? thx
I'm not entirely sure what could have happened, as DGD usually presents symptoms. I have seen that it is possible for other gouramis to get DGD if they are in the same tank (some people dispute this, but there are research papers by scientists showing how it had spread to other fish, even outside the gourami family, though this is rare in our aquariums, and it didn't happen to me). Is it possible there was some ammonia that they were more sensitive to, or that they had some internal parasite? IME, dwarf gourami disease presents symptoms that gradually affect your fish over a period of time (for me, I knew something was wrong for about two weeks, as mine was lethargic, had bumps and lensions, etc.) If you just recently brought home these fish, is it possible they were stressed from new water acclimation or anything else? I'm very sorry for the loss of your fish, I hope that you are managing okay. I hope that this can be helpful, although without water temp and water parameters, I'm not sure how else to help more. If you would like more responses from other people, you can also ask questions on fishlore.com ! I am also willing to continue helping as well :) Thank you!
That's actually a dream of mine! That would honestly be really cool. Currently am breeding endler's, but I'll definitely have to get my hands on some really healthy dwarf gouramis one day!! 😊
I had a DG for about 4 months and all of a sudden developed a big sore on its head and a couple on the side then started doing the death dance and I had to let it go. It is normal for it to take so long to show symptoms? All my other fish seem to be healthy and water quality is great.
Okay so i confirmed i had the same situation as all of you. But i think i possibly figured out the cause. So i bought a small pepper cory and java moss 2 days before my gourami started acting differently. Maybe they have a reaction to the moss. No matter what! My gourami was perfectly fine. All my fish are healthy and my water it perfect in every aspect i can measure. It took one week of getting worse and worse until felt it was torture keeping him alive. So i euthanized him 😔. It was so hard to do that. I bought him 2 months ago. They should stop selling them. I feel this is torturing to keep the farms going if 80% die from to much inbreeding. Feel free to share your thoughts!
I bought 2 blue dwarf gourami's in early August this year, one small one a little bigger than a quarter, and the 2nd one was twice that size. they were fine for 1 month and 1 week in the quarantine tank, eating, swimming. then added them to my 55 community tank, within 3 weeks the little one started to become lethargic and stopped eating then died within a few days, I had already read up as much as possible about did after being warned about it. and true to form the second one who seemed absolutely fine when the little one passed away, 4 days later started not eating, lethargic and died exactly 1 week after the 1st one! 😢 I don't know why stores keep selling them!
Hi, I recently bought 2 dwarf gouramis and both were looking healthy for the past 2 weeks untill one of them suddenly had a rash appear on its body and got a split tail, I put it in a 5 gallon tank to cure it but day by day, the dg kept on getting worse even with meds, I'm not sure if this is dgd and I'm still treating the dg and I really hope its not dgd, any thoughts if it is?
This is an old video but I'm a bit panicked:/ I just got my powder blue dwarf from an instate fish store shipped today . He immediately went to the bottom of the tank n I noticed this bump on his head , from some angles it looks black but from the front you can't tell. He's been swimming around and even kinda digging a bit in the substrate. His colors came back after he settled in his tank. But he's hanging out in the lower part of the tank and the bump is making be a bit nervous :/ Other than that so far he's acting fine. I just have no idea if he's gonna die. I just lost my Betta earlier this month, I'll be devasted if I loose this guy too
I have 2 dwarfs and one may have dgd. He has always preferred one side of the tank over the other but now exclusively stays near the top or will go stay at the bottom for a while. No sores or discoloration. My other one I bought at the same time bullies it a bit but it will typically hold its own. Do you recommend putting the one acting odd in a “quarantine tank?”
I had a powder blue dwarf gourami and I can honestly say he was the most personable fish I have ever kept unfortunately he passed away within months and i have never purchased another dwarf gourami again because his death hit hard. I have since kept banded and honey gourami but nothing comes close to the personable nature of a dwarf gourami. I really really want to keep one again but just too scared to take any chances
Thank you so much!! This video took like two weeks to make, mostly with the research and then collecting some of my favorite screenshots that would help other people as well 😁
@@Elver-gl_rga no problem, I really appreciate the photo, especially because I didn't have many photo examples of bloat or other DGD symptoms (even though I know your honey gourami didn't have DGD). Thanks for your help
I had three dwarf gouramis and one of em showed symptoms for dgd and ended up killing himself by digging below a rock. Now, the other two have completely lost colour (that's how I got them from the store) and they're slowly starting to change, I hope they live lol
I really hope that they make it too, I'm sorry for the loss of your first and I hope you're doing alright! It's not easy to lose your fishy friends. Best of luck, and I hope you have a good and safe day
Just bought 2 dwarf gouramis over the weekend for my community tank. 1 male and 1 female. The female one was more active in terms of feeding and exploring the tank. The male was very docile and inactive. Sadly the male passed away in less than 12 hours after buying. Not sure what I did wrong or maybe he has the disease. I immediately removed him from the tank. I'm now worried if my female dwarf gourami will also get infected 🤧
Does DGD cause them to turn dark in color almost black? My gourami was active and active. Little by little he got slow and was laying on leaves. Then he turned dark black on the head. I thought maybe stressed cuz I added 2 more gourami's. He/she just took her last breathe 😭
There isn't very much info on DGD, and I've personally dealt with it so I think a lot of people find it helpful. My betta fish and gourami videos tend to do really well 😊
@@ThrivePetDesign great job! I fact, when I look up dwarf Gourami disease on TH-cam, your video is the first one. I personally haven’t had any experience as I haven’t kept dwarf Gouramis. Will this apply to honey and park Gourami s?
@@Aquafinity nope, it is mainly spread just between dwarf gouramis as a result of inbreeding and poor water conditions where they are bred in Asia. Some people believe it can spread to bettas and other gouramis, but it is unlikely a honey gourami would get it, unless kept with a dwarf gourami in a fish store or something 🙂
Just got my dwarf gourami and im really scared now He seems well and hes eating straight out of the box But imma pray for him to not get dgd. I even put a little bit of salt in the tank to see if it helps
I'm sorry that the video brought you some anxieties, but I'm glad you're aware. I hope that your dwarf gourami does alright!! This definitely isn't seen in all dwarf gouramis!! I really hope that everything goes well for you and that he's doing the best and you are too ❤
@@ThrivePetDesign hi its been 4 weeks now and no signs of dgd for now wich makes me really happy I dont know if its official yet that he doesn't have dgd. He is Still very healthy and full of energy, i even teached him how to jump. I have him on fake plants for now but im trying to get some live plants, if you have any recommendations of live hardy plants and substrate that my dwarf gourami will love
@@yairaalicea8816 my DG got sick relatively quickly (before the first month) so I really hope that yours is all well! 😊 I personally love sand because you can buy like 50 pounds of pool filter sand for super cheap in some hardware stores and I think it compliments the gourami colors super nicely! For a beginner, I would always recommend plants like Java fern, Amazon swords, anubias, water wisteria, Java moss, guppy grass and cryptocorynes (might have misspelled the last one lol!) I would suggest Buceplant . com for buying live plants online if you don't have nearby resources! I purchased from them and got no pests or anything 👍
I'm so sorry for your loss. I had a similar experience with one of my dwarf gouramis. I brought him home and he passed away within a month, and symptoms came on quite quickly, and I didn't lose any other fish.
My experience was almost identical. Mine were powder blues, and they looked great when I bought them. One got extensive fungus all over its body in about 5 days. I removed it and tried to treat it, but it was dead in 24 hours. The second got it a few days later; location of fungus was different. But the result was the same. It had nothing to do with water quality in that I had no ammonia or nitrites, and nitrate was lower than 25. However, my aquarium is relatively cool (20-22), pH relatively high (~7.4) and our local water is on the hard side. These are all parameters that dwarf gouramis should be able to live in, but they are a the edges of its water quality range.
So it's a bit like hiv in fish. If their found in streams etc I would think its defiantly to do with the water being contaminated. I like your compassion toward fish owners.. what are the actual symptoms start ro end as I'm not clear on any of the symptoms in any of the channels that mention it. So it would have been nice if you d have mentioned this, the very reason I clicked on!! I love your aquarium. I'm going to re design mine So wheres the diagnosis ,the symptoms as said in the thumb nail? I've found out nothing new when I belived I'd find out more?
Yeah....this stinks....we have had all kinds of gourami's over the years and the dwarfs never seem to do well....we really favor the golden gouramis and have some massive females, some of which are about 4 years old at this point....we will most likely not but dwarfs anymore but focus on the golden ones....we just find them to be so beautiful and wonderful and one of the few fish that are actually gold and not just called gold like other fish that are yellow or orange or red....we just love em and Jack calls then the Golden Girls because there are for of them just like the show hahaha....thanks for a great video....we hope you have an wonderful day with your family and your fish!
Yeah, it's really a shame that the dwarfs just never really thrive, I'm hoping to find a local breeder one day and then produce them myself (That would be an actual dream!) So they can be healthy and without issue. Golden gouramis are absolutely stunning and I 100% agree that they have some of the most unique coloration, almost unmatched. Thank you so much for the kind and thoughtful comment. I wish you the best day as well :)
I had to take care of Hilda today after I lost Albert, I am not a happy bunny. When you see the sores begin on their bodies there is nothing you can do, they will die.
I think my blue neon dwarf gourami has this Disease he poop is white and stringy he’s bloated won’t eat and this morning I found him facing straight up and I thought he was dead
The worst part is he keeps coming up to my face when I'm close to the glass like he is saying HELP ME but I don't know what to do. He is bloated and losing color ,most of the day he hides in the bottom corner and won't eat.
Damn >o< mine has this for sure. I've been treating with a million things, but this describes what is happening to her 100 percent. Water is just fine. Thank you for the info. I feel terrible, poor thing only just got here, but it looks dreadful and it just hangs out at the top on its side, has a sore developing ;n;
I'm so sorry that you have to deal with this, it's really difficult. I lost my dwarf gourami, too, and it's really lonely, so I hope you know if you ever need anything feel free to reach out. I hope this could provide some insight to your struggles, and that you take care of yourself today, because it's always really difficult dealing with illness in loved pets.
@@ThrivePetDesign Aww thank you!! The video definitely helped. I am hoping my male doesn't develop this as well. He seems perfectly healthy, but time will tell. Keep up the videos btw! They are very well done^^
@@phyiire That's very kind of you, thank you! I 'm glad to hear the video helped, and I'm wishing everything for your male. I appreciate the feedback on my videos, thank you once more! It really means a lot since a lot of time goes into them :))
Wow, I'm really glad to hear that it went away in your first. Did it look like DGD or another type of illness? Either way, I'm very glad your first made it through, but I'm so sorry about your second one. I hope you're doing alright! Thanks for the comment and the insight!
@@ThrivePetDesign thank you so much for the reply, yes it did. It looked exactly like DGD, and there was a decrease of movement as well as appetite. It looked like his immune system was down and the other fish that died had the same symptoms.
@@mofochezcake4790 Well that's really fantastic news! It would be amazing to see in the future if more and more fish become immune from DGD or somehow pull through it. If you have any info/come to any info in the future about why your dwarf gourami pulled through that I can sure with other people please let me know! Thank you so much for your insight :)
I had a few dwarf gouramis few years back. I'm from north eastern part of India where dwarf gouramis is a native fish. Suddenly my gouramies developed swelling of their bodies and then their eye were slowly protruding out. Scales of their bodies gradually spring up, they became slowly unable to move freely and eventually they all died. But in that episod some of my other fishes such as few Serpae tetras and Danios also died in a similar manner. Was it DJD I'm not sure. One of my doctor friends told me that it was Dropsy disease caused by bacterial infection that can be triggered by many different factors. I tried treating my fish with some antibiotics but could not save my gouramies. It been 5/6 years since then and I have not gathered sufficient couraged to try gouramis again. Anyone has any information on this or can help will be welcome.
The most relevant “water parameter” to keep “perfect” would be bacteria count; not Ph, ammonia/nitrite/nitrate etc. Adequate filtration (ie. adequate surface area of filter media and the SUFFICIENT population of HETEROTROPHIC bacteria in that media, not just nitrifying bacteria) to keep the free floating bacteria count in the water column low, giving your fish more resources for its immune system to fight actual pathogens (a fishes immune system has to spend resources to defend against ANY bacteria that comes in contact with it, whether it is a harmful pathogen or not). While it won’t cure or prevent DGIV, understanding and ensuring adequate filtration *MAY???* prevent a fish from becoming symptomatic, and it certainly won’t do any harm to make sure your fish is swimming in crystal clear “bacteria free” water! While DGIV may be a major concern, FAR more fish in the hobby die because people don’t understand how filtration can literally prevent most of the unnecessary deaths. Thanks for sharing the vid!
I looked this up immediately after I realized my baby turned white and lost ability to swim this morning 😭 I know she’s dying... and I think it may have been from my other gourami who died suddenly.. about a couple weeks ago... I think he died from this disease especially considering I bought them from petsmart not knowing how cruel they are. Also: I stopped by petsmarts yesterday because I thought maybe my fish was depressed about my other gourami dying, but they didn’t have any. I’m genuinely not surprised because of how disgusting the tanks were... poor babies are suffering 😪
I'm very sorry that you're dealing with this. The conditions in those poor PetSmart tanks are always so upsetting. Let me know if you have any questions or anything, I'm very sorry to hear about your gouramis ❤
Dwarf gouramis don't have that sort of attachment. Don't worry, your gourami won't feel depressed if the other one in the tank dies. (I know your comment is a year old but i'm just saying this in case you don't know..)
It looks like a Mycobacterium... a condition that goes wild in crowded conditions That would cause that kind of sore and could be dangerous to humans with cuts/abrasions on their hands/arms. What are the findings? I have not had good experience lately with Dwarf Gouramis, unless they are young. Don't buy the older ones that have big knobby heads, they are OLD. 🐟
Hey...I'm no Einstein but try grinding garlic and mixing it in with the food..I do this with my tiger Oscars and they are healthy as can be... ps... These fish are used to living in filthy muddy pools of water in the wild..that is the Gaurami
@@ThrivePetDesign I need to be clear on the matter, I like the fish but i think the only way to clean it up a bit is to make the fish get of the trade completly and after a while start over compleatly from wild, unfortunatly DGD id found in wild ones as well. But it can cure the inbreading, unfortunatly there shuld be a compleat reastrat with fish like gyppies and mollies as well, to get them healthy.
@@erikempire318 I would need to do more research but I totally understand what you mean here. I'm not sure if I feel the exact same, although I do believe we have similar lines of thinking. Yours seems like the best solution to remove DGD, but the problem is that I know a lot of people will still actively seek out gouramis as pets so its hard to completely control the trade. But I do suppose, when we get to the heart of it, trade control could save this entire species. Thanks for the perspective! 😊
Sorry to say love, but as soon as I heard you say that your water parameters were perfect and then continued on from that stating that you had zero nitrates in your tank. The fact you don’t understand that nitrates are good for your tank and actually on necessary for fish such as Gourami, you shouldn’t be doing tutorials for Fish keeping sorry Darl. Ammonia is toxic. Yes nitrite is toxic. Yes but nitrates are essential not too little and not too much. That’s perfect parameters.
True. My nitrates are 10, 0 nitrites and 0 ammonia and I've just lost one gourami and another has it now. I won't be getting anymore because this disease is unavoidable unless you are very lucky and get one that doesn't carry the disease which you wouldn't know until later on most likely. I'm so sad as I love the gourami as their so graceful and beautiful. I could watch them all day. But I can't sit and watch them keep dying and deteriorating from this disease due to bad breeding. If in the future they become more healthy again then I may get them again but right now I have one very poorly male who I may have euthanize and 1 female left who seems OK for the moment.
My favorite aquarium fish is the dwarf gourami. because they have many beautiful features. Just as I had formed a bond with the dwarf gourami, I suddenly lost it. While I was treating problems such as white spots and tail clipping in other fish, I quarantined all fish as a precaution. I treated them with a German-made medicine that is effective against almost every bacteria, parasite and fungus. All the fish recovered and regained their health. (7 neon tetras, 3 platies, 2 dwarf stingrays). Only the healthy Dwarf Gourami's health deteriorated. When I researched the symptoms, I saw that it was DGiV. Medicines containing methylene blue and malachite green suddenly triggered this virus in him, and within 2 days, problems such as color changes, imbalance, and inability to swim began. The fins appeared to be shrunken. The animal is still alive but nothing I try works. So I put him in a bowl with clean oxygen and left him alone. I throw bait next to it from time to time. I think he will die soon. It is very sad that such a magnificent species dies in 2 weeks, 1 month or 1 year. I hope there is a solution to this.
How do you know that methylene blue and malachite green cause this virus to activate?
Thanks for posting this interesting video. One of the biggest takeaways from this should be the overwhelming lack of quarantine amongst fish keepers. This is the key to a healthy population. One should assume the new fish are infected and commence a suite of treatments for the common ailments over a period of weeks.
In this particular case, it does appear that the fishes are already infected when they arrive in the dealers tanks. Thus the stress of capture, bagging and transport seems to trigger a stress-related drop in immune response. Introduction into new accommodation and being confronted with strange tank mates only compounds the stress. The fish must have already been borderline in the store, before being pushed over the threshold when they succumbed to the challenge and started showing symptoms. By which time it is usually too late.
I have seen this disease listed as Dwarf Gourami Iridovirus Disease. This is postulated to be a result of chronic inbreeding when the virus takes advantage of the poor genetics of the species, and proliferates from early development into adulthood. There is no treatment or cure for this virus, and affected fishes should be euthanized. This explanation may account for the fact that only dwarf gouramis are affected, and other species are not.
Someone has commented that the condition is caused by Mycobacteria. The symptoms are almost identical to those of the iridovirus mentioned above. This may be near the truth (pending further research), and if it does turn out to be the case, may hold clues to its possible treatment. Mycobacteria are responsible for a disease in freshwater fishes known as fish TB, or tuberculosis. Contrary to the majority of pathogenic bacteria infecting fishes, which are Gram-negative, Mycobacteria are Gram-positive and possess a thick outer wall. This, and other attributes, makes them difficult to treat. The classic treatment has been the antibiotic Rifampicin coupled with Isonicotinic acid. These are not easy to come by. Streptomycin has also been used, but this works best when injected. Erythromycin has been reported to be effective, in conjunction with metronidazole, soaked onto food, but treatment regimes and dosages are hard to come by. Kanamycin and doxycycline are also listed as treatments but accurate information is hard to track down.
IF this disease is a mycobacterium, then a number of measures will help improve things and minimise the risks. Increasing the aeration by a lot seems to be important. Keeping the pH at 7 or above helps. Keeping the substrate clean will decrease the numbers of infective units to infect susceptible fishes. Leaving filter maintenance to the point of greatly reduced flow seems to help in trapping mycobacterial particles. Some people have had success using a UV steriliser.
Apparently, many infected fishes can live with the mycobacterium for quite some time if the conditions are clean.
I bought 13 Dwarf Gourami 2 years ago, kept them in 150 Gallon, lost 4 of them within a month. They came up with an open wound (Similar you showed at 1:52) on their belly or near to the gills and Stop swimming, Just lying down. When my 5th gourami came up with the same wound I separated it immediately in a small tub with 1 liter water with the Surface Hight of three inches only (No Filter, No Air Stone). I held the fish in my hand and Put a drop of Methylene Blue on it's wound and put 20 drops in it's 1 liter water. I Changed the water three times a day each time added 20 drops of Methylene Blue in 1 liter and put one drop directly on the wound while holding my fish out of the water. 3rd day the wound started to heal and after a weak my fish was healthy. (Caution!!! ... I did not stop giving food during the whole week. I soaked 5 to 7 pellets and put them near the fishes moth if she wants to eat so she did not have to struggle because she cant swim) During this time I completely washed my 150 gallon tank. Removed every plant and gravel or anything except filter and aerator. I have 9 alive Dwarf Gourami for 2 Years. (Alhamdulillah)
(I have more to tell) I don't have any other fish in this tank only 9 Dwarf Gourami, I told you before that I removed everything from the tank except filter & aerator But they chased one another so I put 3 Beautiful Designed Small Mud Pots in the bottom so they at least can hide and avoid chasing stress (I hand wash these pots during water changes because they sit in it and fish poop stick to them). My 150 Gallon tank is located at a place where it faces direct original Sunlight (Only at Afternoon and only for 1 to 2 hour) I change 50% water every week and put only 50 drops of Methylene Blue in 150 Gallon water and additional 20 drops directly to the filter box. At my place I don't need heater in summer but in cold winter I use heater and set temperature to 26°C (78.8°F
). Normally I give them food 3 times a day but in winter I give them at early noon and evening only. They are healthy and happy. They recognize me, I put my hand in water they come and give me kisses only when I am alone. When someone other is around they just hide in their pots. **SAD NEWS** 2 of them jumped out of the water at night in different months previous year (2020). I have 7 of them now. I don't know what was their age when I bought them but they are with me for about 2 years till today . Thanks for reading Bubye.
Witaj. Również miałem 13 sztuk. Obecnie 12. 6 samic i 6 samców. Dwa z nich robią gniazda. Nie wiem ile z nich przenieść do innego akwarium a ile zostawić?
Well done for healing your fish. I would like to say, though, that methylene blue is not a viricide. It acts against bacteria and some fungi. Therefore, from your description I would conclude that the condition was of bacterial origin. Which should bring hope to others who may come across this condition. BTW, methylene blue will kill your filter bacteria, so take care before adding it to your filter.
Thanks for posting this. I did a lot of internet research as well when my two powder blues got this, but you have summarized it nicely. What I learned from your video is that the symptoms vary and are secondary to the real cause.
No problem! I'm glad that it could be of some help, and I'm glad that was your takeaway, and I'm not sure if I could have phrased it any better myself. :)
Thank you for this video, my darling female is dying from the disease. It is heartbreaking to watch her go. They have wonderful personalities. Hopefully, I can find a local breeder. Once again thank you for the knowledge.
🕓 TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Intro
0:22 - Disclaimer
1:31 - What is DGD?
3:14 - Is DGD Treatable?
3:28 - Euthanasia
3:55 - Causes of DGD
4:43 - My Research & Firsthand Experience
5:20 - Can It Spread to Other Fish Species?
6:28 - The Misinformation & Confusion Around DGD
7:19 - Conclusion & How to Save Dwarf Gouramis
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I had five pearl gouramies, 4 gold gouramies and 4 dwarf gouramies. Unfortunately all of them died over a month because of DGD and I'm sure it's due to the fish stores I bought them. I know because other fishes which were living in the same tank are still healthy such as some types of chilides, louches and cat fishes. I am sure about the healthy condition of water in the aquarium as you explained in the video. I have even used UV light and it wasn't useful, so I agree with you that this issue is certainly related to fish farms and fish stores. Thanks for your information.
I'm glad it could offer some insight! I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your fish, hopefully there are some solutions in the future to make sure the gouramis are as healthy as possible. It's always so sad losing completely healthy fish and not really knowing what happening! there is also a ton of misinformation out there so it can be very difficult to figure out what is what. Hopefully the fish farms up their game!
Thanks. I've had our Dwarf Neon Gourami for literally two days, and as I type this, he's almost curled up and gasping his last breaths. I don't know what to do for him? I'm sure he'll be dead by the morning and I will have to take him back to the petshop tomorrow. He was so happy and healthy this morning and when I went to feed him tonight he was curled up and almost belly up just gasping for air. And of course, whenever I take a fish back to the petshop they give you that look. I worked in the industry for six years about a decade ago, and this is the hardest year I've had with fish, but mostly bettas. We don't have many petshops in our area, so I'm running out of choices. I'm starting to think there's something in the water, even the bottled water that I've been using. I'm ready to give up again!
Two of my dwarf gouramis had a bloated belly. One survived, and the other died. Is there any medication/cure for it?
oh man, ive never even heard about this until today. Ive had my dwarf gourami for a couple months now. I definitely hope they dont have dgd but i guess now im aware that its something to look for. this was really informative
Thank you so much for the comment!! I sincerely hope that your dwarf gourami is alright and I'm glad you can use this as reason to be aware :)
Thank you for this video.
I bought two male DG's. They're beautiful. One male was bigger and so more dominant. He chose his place in the tank in my floating plants. He would gently chase the other male away from his spot. I noticed his belly started getting bigger. A lot bigger. I thought, he's a pig. He's eating all of the food that floats into the plants. Nope. A couple of days ago I noticed the two males doing a swimming dance. Now I know that it was a challenge and the little Gourami has taken over the bigger ones spot. Now the bigger one hangs out at the bottom and has stopped eating. I know what I must do. I'm sad.
I'm really sorry that you're dealing with this. I really hope that you're okay and safe, and if you need anything or just want to chat, feel free to reach out, and I'll listen. DGD is really difficult to deal with, especially since there being so little information on it in the first place. Stay safe
It is Piscean Tuberculosis, the same that is commonly found in Rainbow fish
Hello, Iv just watched your video. Thank you for taking the time to research and pass this on. Iv heard of this before but never had DG before. I bought 3 a week ago for 35 gal com tank as touch wood all seems fine. In your experience, how long does it take for this to manifest if the fish have it? Mine don’t seem far of being fully grown.
Thanks
I've lost one from this condition already, and currently trying to revive back two others. It's just crazy that only 2 of the 5 I got have stayed healthy. Water parameters are fine considering it's a community tank with other species in it as well that are thriving
I just got one a few weeks ago, and he isn't very active at all. I thought maybe he was being shy, but the last few days he's been lying on his side at the bottom but will also float at the top... His head has a bump, making his head look almost crooked. I don't think it's bladder issues, because he will swim fine when scared but the filter current took him away when turned on. Very hard to watch.
I feel like one of my blue dwarf G had this he would just lay down and not move much for a few days but now he’s swimming around like nothing happened. Idk what happened I didn’t change anything he just got better
Thanks for sharing this information. I had no idea.
Ty so much for the video I have 5 dg and there so amazing when I wake up and go over to the tank no matter were they am they all come over and follow me around the tank first I though they doing it cuz they want food .but ty again I'm trying to get as much info on these little guys as I love them so much
Mine is sick now. My water is perfect and no other fish is sick. Is this contagious?
It may affect other gouramis but it personally did not hurt any of my other species when I had to deal with it. Hope you're well ❤
All of my petco and petshop gouramis have died except for one. A few died to parasites. A couple died mysteriously. And currently have a lethargic powder blue gourami dying right now with no visible symptoms. However, ALL of my gouramis ordered online from Aqua Imports look great, including the females. Because the nearest specialty stores are over 10 hours away, Ive ordered online. Aqua Imports, Dans Fish, and the Wetspot are three that I trust. They all wait for cooler temperatures to ship and only use air mail to mitigate fish stress. Their stock is tripple A. That type of care wont be found at petco.
I'm sorry for the loss of your gourami. 😔
I have 2 d. Gouramis and had no idea this existed. Have had them 1 year. Thank you for letting me know about this disease.
Unfortunately, I feel like there are a lot of "new" diseases that are popping up due to the exact reasons you mentioned in the video: inbreeding and poor conditions, and mostly in fish imported from Asia.
I had a gold ram with lymphocystis bought from a big box store. It's an immune disease that showed no symptoms until I brought him home. Just the stress of moving to a new tank can trigger immuno-suppressed fish.
I totally understand your frustration when trying to find info on DGD, as when I was trying to find info on lymphocystis, it was pretty new and there was a lot of conflicting info and confusion on it.
Neon tetras used to be bullet proof, now there's neon tetra disease. Guppies and bettas also have been so inbred that they can be quite delicate now. It's really unfortunate that these things are happening!
Again, thanks so much for sharing this info and your experience!
Thank you so much for your kind words! 😊
I'm glad you understand a lot of what I'm talking about, and I totally agree with everything you've mentioned. I especially feel bad because neon tetras are often recommended for beginners, when they tend to not be as hardy as they may have once been. I'm so sorry about your ram, its really difficult dealing with fish disease, especially when a lot of the information is difficult to digest, comprehend and then share with other people. Sorry for the late response, I didn't get a notification on your comment!! I really appreciate your experience and feedback ❤
@@ThrivePetDesign I’ve come up with something:
1. Instead of Dwarf Gourami’s, get Pearl or Honey Gourami’s
2. Instead of Common guppies, get Endler guppies
3. Instead of neon tetras, get cardinal tetras
Lesson: Do reasearch before you buy fish, and make sure the fish has stable genetics. 😁
@@Aquafinity totally agree with that sentiment!! There are some really good local breeders that have super strong lines, though. Not all guppies are unhealthy, there are just some really inbred and unhealthy strains. Its just my opinion hobbyists should just be more selective and care more about the genetics of the fish they buy. I think for most people though, it would be easier to follow your guidelines 😊
@@ThrivePetDesign That’s right! There are breeders who keep really hardy guppies and other fish!
I had two dwarf gouramis, 2 honey gouramis and 1 sunset gourami. except the sunset all others died over night. had no indication anything was wrong. and all my other fish in the community tank are fine. what could only target only the gouramis and at the same time? can DGD affect all of the gouramis at the same time? thx
I'm not entirely sure what could have happened, as DGD usually presents symptoms. I have seen that it is possible for other gouramis to get DGD if they are in the same tank (some people dispute this, but there are research papers by scientists showing how it had spread to other fish, even outside the gourami family, though this is rare in our aquariums, and it didn't happen to me).
Is it possible there was some ammonia that they were more sensitive to, or that they had some internal parasite? IME, dwarf gourami disease presents symptoms that gradually affect your fish over a period of time (for me, I knew something was wrong for about two weeks, as mine was lethargic, had bumps and lensions, etc.) If you just recently brought home these fish, is it possible they were stressed from new water acclimation or anything else?
I'm very sorry for the loss of your fish, I hope that you are managing okay. I hope that this can be helpful, although without water temp and water parameters, I'm not sure how else to help more.
If you would like more responses from other people, you can also ask questions on fishlore.com ! I am also willing to continue helping as well :)
Thank you!
You should breed dwarf gouramies so that they are able to aquire natural passive immunity and become hardy fishes and live longer without the disease.
That's actually a dream of mine! That would honestly be really cool. Currently am breeding endler's, but I'll definitely have to get my hands on some really healthy dwarf gouramis one day!! 😊
Wow great job!! You have 63 subscribers!
Thank you so much!! Your audience has been INCREDIBLY supportive and I literally can't thank you enough 😁
@@ThrivePetDesign Thank you too for the collab!! Good luck to both our channels!
I had a DG for about 4 months and all of a sudden developed a big sore on its head and a couple on the side then started doing the death dance and I had to let it go. It is normal for it to take so long to show symptoms? All my other fish seem to be healthy and water quality is great.
Okay so i confirmed i had the same situation as all of you.
But i think i possibly figured out the cause. So i bought a small pepper cory and java moss 2 days before my gourami started acting differently. Maybe they have a reaction to the moss.
No matter what! My gourami was perfectly fine. All my fish are healthy and my water it perfect in every aspect i can measure. It took one week of getting worse and worse until felt it was torture keeping him alive. So i euthanized him 😔. It was so hard to do that. I bought him 2 months ago.
They should stop selling them. I feel this is torturing to keep the farms going if 80% die from to much inbreeding.
Feel free to share your thoughts!
How do you humanely euthanize a dwarf gourami?
I bought 2 blue dwarf gourami's in early August this year, one small one a little bigger than a quarter, and the 2nd one was twice that size. they were fine for 1 month and 1 week in the quarantine tank, eating, swimming. then added them to my 55 community tank, within 3 weeks the little one started to become lethargic and stopped eating then died within a few days, I had already read up as much as possible about did after being warned about it. and true to form the second one who seemed absolutely fine when the little one passed away, 4 days later started not eating, lethargic and died exactly 1 week after the 1st one! 😢 I don't know why stores keep selling them!
Hi, I recently bought 2 dwarf gouramis and both were looking healthy for the past 2 weeks untill one of them suddenly had a rash appear on its body and got a split tail, I put it in a 5 gallon tank to cure it but day by day, the dg kept on getting worse even with meds, I'm not sure if this is dgd and I'm still treating the dg and I really hope its not dgd, any thoughts if it is?
Very informative, I never knew this existed. I gave your channel a sub!
Thank you so much for the comment and sub, that was very kind!! Have a good day 👍
Is there a certain age that they get it or prone to it?
This is an old video but I'm a bit panicked:/ I just got my powder blue dwarf from an instate fish store shipped today . He immediately went to the bottom of the tank n I noticed this bump on his head , from some angles it looks black but from the front you can't tell. He's been swimming around and even kinda digging a bit in the substrate. His colors came back after he settled in his tank. But he's hanging out in the lower part of the tank and the bump is making be a bit nervous :/
Other than that so far he's acting fine. I just have no idea if he's gonna die. I just lost my Betta earlier this month, I'll be devasted if I loose this guy too
I have 2 dwarfs and one may have dgd. He has always preferred one side of the tank over the other but now exclusively stays near the top or will go stay at the bottom for a while. No sores or discoloration. My other one I bought at the same time bullies it a bit but it will typically hold its own. Do you recommend putting the one acting odd in a “quarantine tank?”
The more I watch I think it could be my other gourami bullying him into the corner… would not recommend getting a pair
I had a powder blue dwarf gourami and I can honestly say he was the most personable fish I have ever kept unfortunately he passed away within months and i have never purchased another dwarf gourami again because his death hit hard. I have since kept banded and honey gourami but nothing comes close to the personable nature of a dwarf gourami. I really really want to keep one again but just too scared to take any chances
Nice video, This video is high quality. How long have you been planning on this video/working on it?
Thank you so much!! This video took like two weeks to make, mostly with the research and then collecting some of my favorite screenshots that would help other people as well 😁
@@ThrivePetDesign I forgot to mention but thanks for mentioning me in this video
@@Elver-gl_rga no problem, I really appreciate the photo, especially because I didn't have many photo examples of bloat or other DGD symptoms (even though I know your honey gourami didn't have DGD). Thanks for your help
I had three dwarf gouramis and one of em showed symptoms for dgd and ended up killing himself by digging below a rock. Now, the other two have completely lost colour (that's how I got them from the store) and they're slowly starting to change, I hope they live lol
I really hope that they make it too, I'm sorry for the loss of your first and I hope you're doing alright! It's not easy to lose your fishy friends. Best of luck, and I hope you have a good and safe day
Awesome video, thanks for sharing, found this very informative
Thank you! I'm really glad that you find it interesting 😁
Just bought 2 dwarf gouramis over the weekend for my community tank. 1 male and 1 female. The female one was more active in terms of feeding and exploring the tank. The male was very docile and inactive. Sadly the male passed away in less than 12 hours after buying. Not sure what I did wrong or maybe he has the disease. I immediately removed him from the tank. I'm now worried if my female dwarf gourami will also get infected 🤧
Does DGD cause them to turn dark in color almost black? My gourami was active and active. Little by little he got slow and was laying on leaves. Then he turned dark black on the head. I thought maybe stressed cuz I added 2 more gourami's. He/she just took her last breathe 😭
What end up happening to your gourami??
Awesome info
Hmmmm... Looks like your videos on DGD tend to do better than most others
There isn't very much info on DGD, and I've personally dealt with it so I think a lot of people find it helpful. My betta fish and gourami videos tend to do really well 😊
@@ThrivePetDesign great job! I fact, when I look up dwarf Gourami disease on TH-cam, your video is the first one. I personally haven’t had any experience as I haven’t kept dwarf Gouramis. Will this apply to honey and park Gourami s?
@@Aquafinity nope, it is mainly spread just between dwarf gouramis as a result of inbreeding and poor water conditions where they are bred in Asia. Some people believe it can spread to bettas and other gouramis, but it is unlikely a honey gourami would get it, unless kept with a dwarf gourami in a fish store or something 🙂
@@ThrivePetDesign Wow 115 views and counting...
@@Aquafinity yeah, its really insane! I'm hoping that it will help people, as I get comments on DGD very often. 😊
Just got my dwarf gourami and im really scared now
He seems well and hes eating straight out of the box
But imma pray for him to not get dgd.
I even put a little bit of salt in the tank to see if it helps
I'm sorry that the video brought you some anxieties, but I'm glad you're aware. I hope that your dwarf gourami does alright!! This definitely isn't seen in all dwarf gouramis!!
I really hope that everything goes well for you and that he's doing the best and you are too ❤
@@ThrivePetDesign hi its been 4 weeks now and no signs of dgd for now wich makes me really happy
I dont know if its official yet that he doesn't have dgd.
He is Still very healthy and full of energy, i even teached him how to jump.
I have him on fake plants for now but im trying to get some live plants, if you have any recommendations of live hardy plants and substrate that my dwarf gourami will love
@@yairaalicea8816 my DG got sick relatively quickly (before the first month) so I really hope that yours is all well! 😊
I personally love sand because you can buy like 50 pounds of pool filter sand for super cheap in some hardware stores and I think it compliments the gourami colors super nicely!
For a beginner, I would always recommend plants like Java fern, Amazon swords, anubias, water wisteria, Java moss, guppy grass and cryptocorynes (might have misspelled the last one lol!) I would suggest Buceplant . com for buying live plants online if you don't have nearby resources! I purchased from them and got no pests or anything 👍
I bought 2 dwarfs last week ..dead within a week...they went down hill fast.. No other fish in thetank was lost
I'm so sorry for your loss. I had a similar experience with one of my dwarf gouramis. I brought him home and he passed away within a month, and symptoms came on quite quickly, and I didn't lose any other fish.
@simon clarke Yeah, it really is. I wish I knew of quality gourami breeders (that didn't have DGD) to recommend to people.
My experience was almost identical. Mine were powder blues, and they looked great when I bought them. One got extensive fungus all over its body in about 5 days. I removed it and tried to treat it, but it was dead in 24 hours. The second got it a few days later; location of fungus was different. But the result was the same. It had nothing to do with water quality in that I had no ammonia or nitrites, and nitrate was lower than 25. However, my aquarium is relatively cool (20-22), pH relatively high (~7.4) and our local water is on the hard side. These are all parameters that dwarf gouramis should be able to live in, but they are a the edges of its water quality range.
Would this be caused from perhaps inbreeding ?
So it's a bit like hiv in fish. If their found in streams etc I would think its defiantly to do with the water being contaminated.
I like your compassion toward fish owners.. what are the actual symptoms start ro end as I'm not clear on any of the symptoms in any of the channels that mention it.
So it would have been nice if you d have mentioned this, the very reason I clicked on!!
I love your aquarium. I'm going to re design mine
So wheres the diagnosis ,the symptoms as said in the thumb nail? I've found out nothing new when I belived I'd find out more?
Yeah....this stinks....we have had all kinds of gourami's over the years and the dwarfs never seem to do well....we really favor the golden gouramis and have some massive females, some of which are about 4 years old at this point....we will most likely not but dwarfs anymore but focus on the golden ones....we just find them to be so beautiful and wonderful and one of the few fish that are actually gold and not just called gold like other fish that are yellow or orange or red....we just love em and Jack calls then the Golden Girls because there are for of them just like the show hahaha....thanks for a great video....we hope you have an wonderful day with your family and your fish!
Yeah, it's really a shame that the dwarfs just never really thrive, I'm hoping to find a local breeder one day and then produce them myself (That would be an actual dream!) So they can be healthy and without issue. Golden gouramis are absolutely stunning and I 100% agree that they have some of the most unique coloration, almost unmatched. Thank you so much for the kind and thoughtful comment. I wish you the best day as well :)
I had to take care of Hilda today after I lost Albert, I am not a happy bunny. When you see the sores begin on their bodies there is nothing you can do, they will die.
I'm so sorry for your loss. It's devastating, DGD is tragic. I'm here if you need to talk or need any internet hugs.
My two dwarf gourami doing fine for 6 months until suddenly one of em die and the fish have blood all around it's gills
I think my blue neon dwarf gourami has this Disease he poop is white and stringy he’s bloated won’t eat and this morning I found him facing straight up and I thought he was dead
The worst part is he keeps coming up to my face when I'm close to the glass like he is saying HELP ME but I don't know what to do. He is bloated and losing color ,most of the day he hides in the bottom corner and won't eat.
Damn >o< mine has this for sure. I've been treating with a million things, but this describes what is happening to her 100 percent. Water is just fine. Thank you for the info. I feel terrible, poor thing only just got here, but it looks dreadful and it just hangs out at the top on its side, has a sore developing ;n;
I'm so sorry that you have to deal with this, it's really difficult. I lost my dwarf gourami, too, and it's really lonely, so I hope you know if you ever need anything feel free to reach out. I hope this could provide some insight to your struggles, and that you take care of yourself today, because it's always really difficult dealing with illness in loved pets.
@@ThrivePetDesign Aww thank you!! The video definitely helped. I am hoping my male doesn't develop this as well. He seems perfectly healthy, but time will tell. Keep up the videos btw! They are very well done^^
@@phyiire That's very kind of you, thank you! I 'm glad to hear the video helped, and I'm wishing everything for your male. I appreciate the feedback on my videos, thank you once more! It really means a lot since a lot of time goes into them :))
I just had one of my two dwarf gourami died but before that one died the other one thats alive rn had it and it went away.
Wow, I'm really glad to hear that it went away in your first. Did it look like DGD or another type of illness? Either way, I'm very glad your first made it through, but I'm so sorry about your second one. I hope you're doing alright! Thanks for the comment and the insight!
@@ThrivePetDesign thank you so much for the reply, yes it did. It looked exactly like DGD, and there was a decrease of movement as well as appetite. It looked like his immune system was down and the other fish that died had the same symptoms.
@@mofochezcake4790 Well that's really fantastic news! It would be amazing to see in the future if more and more fish become immune from DGD or somehow pull through it. If you have any info/come to any info in the future about why your dwarf gourami pulled through that I can sure with other people please let me know! Thank you so much for your insight :)
I had a few dwarf gouramis few years back. I'm from north eastern part of India where dwarf gouramis is a native fish. Suddenly my gouramies developed swelling of their bodies and then their eye were slowly protruding out. Scales of their bodies gradually spring up, they became slowly unable to move freely and eventually they all died. But in that episod some of my other fishes such as few Serpae tetras and Danios also died in a similar manner. Was it DJD I'm not sure. One of my doctor friends told me that it was Dropsy disease caused by bacterial infection that can be triggered by many different factors. I tried treating my fish with some antibiotics but could not save my gouramies. It been 5/6 years since then and I have not gathered sufficient couraged to try gouramis again. Anyone has any information on this or can help will be welcome.
The most relevant “water parameter” to keep “perfect” would be bacteria count; not Ph, ammonia/nitrite/nitrate etc.
Adequate filtration (ie. adequate surface area of filter media and the SUFFICIENT population of HETEROTROPHIC bacteria in that media, not just nitrifying bacteria) to keep the free floating bacteria count in the water column low, giving your fish more resources for its immune system to fight actual pathogens (a fishes immune system has to spend resources to defend against ANY bacteria that comes in contact with it, whether it is a harmful pathogen or not).
While it won’t cure or prevent DGIV, understanding and ensuring adequate filtration *MAY???* prevent a fish from becoming symptomatic, and it certainly won’t do any harm to make sure your fish is swimming in crystal clear “bacteria free” water!
While DGIV may be a major concern, FAR more fish in the hobby die because people don’t understand how filtration can literally prevent most of the unnecessary deaths.
Thanks for sharing the vid!
This is such a great video I miss oj my dwarf gourima 😭😭
Thank you!! I'm still so sorry about your loss, OJ was such a sweet fish ❤
@@ThrivePetDesign thanks it was an amazing video
Nice video
Thank you so much!! 😊
Wow. My dwarf gourami really just gonna die huh... sad
I looked this up immediately after I realized my baby turned white and lost ability to swim this morning 😭 I know she’s dying... and I think it may have been from my other gourami who died suddenly.. about a couple weeks ago... I think he died from this disease especially considering I bought them from petsmart not knowing how cruel they are.
Also: I stopped by petsmarts yesterday because I thought maybe my fish was depressed about my other gourami dying, but they didn’t have any. I’m genuinely not surprised because of how disgusting the tanks were... poor babies are suffering 😪
I'm very sorry that you're dealing with this. The conditions in those poor PetSmart tanks are always so upsetting. Let me know if you have any questions or anything, I'm very sorry to hear about your gouramis ❤
Dwarf gouramis don't have that sort of attachment. Don't worry, your gourami won't feel depressed if the other one in the tank dies. (I know your comment is a year old but i'm just saying this in case you don't know..)
It looks like a Mycobacterium... a condition that goes wild in crowded conditions That would cause that kind of sore and could be dangerous to humans with cuts/abrasions on their hands/arms. What are the findings? I have not had good experience lately with Dwarf Gouramis, unless they are young. Don't buy the older ones that have big knobby heads, they are OLD. 🐟
Now his partner is turning dark little by little.
Hey...I'm no Einstein but try grinding garlic
and mixing it in with the food..I do this with my tiger Oscars and they are healthy as can be... ps...
These fish are used to living in filthy muddy pools of water in the wild..that is the Gaurami
Sorry about your fish (T_T) I'm according to peeps in comments, It' an important topic!
Thank you!! It's really important, and I'm really glad that you take the time to watch all my content. Thank you so much ❤
Im sorry but all trade and keeping of dwarf gouramis needs to be stopped/ baned.
I absolutely agree! I think this would be the best way to encourage low quality fish farms to improve their care and prevent the spread of DGD
@@ThrivePetDesign I need to be clear on the matter, I like the fish but i think the only way to clean it up a bit is to make the fish get of the trade completly and after a while start over compleatly from wild, unfortunatly DGD id found in wild ones as well. But it can cure the inbreading, unfortunatly there shuld be a compleat reastrat with fish like gyppies and mollies as well, to get them healthy.
@@erikempire318 I would need to do more research but I totally understand what you mean here. I'm not sure if I feel the exact same, although I do believe we have similar lines of thinking. Yours seems like the best solution to remove DGD, but the problem is that I know a lot of people will still actively seek out gouramis as pets so its hard to completely control the trade. But I do suppose, when we get to the heart of it, trade control could save this entire species.
Thanks for the perspective! 😊
Oh and he/she got a big belly. I thought maybe a she who was gonna lay eggs.
Sorry to say love, but as soon as I heard you say that your water parameters were perfect and then continued on from that stating that you had zero nitrates in your tank. The fact you don’t understand that nitrates are good for your tank and actually on necessary for fish such as Gourami, you shouldn’t be doing tutorials for Fish keeping sorry Darl. Ammonia is toxic. Yes nitrite is toxic. Yes but nitrates are essential not too little and not too much. That’s perfect parameters.
True. My nitrates are 10, 0 nitrites and 0 ammonia and I've just lost one gourami and another has it now. I won't be getting anymore because this disease is unavoidable unless you are very lucky and get one that doesn't carry the disease which you wouldn't know until later on most likely. I'm so sad as I love the gourami as their so graceful and beautiful. I could watch them all day. But I can't sit and watch them keep dying and deteriorating from this disease due to bad breeding. If in the future they become more healthy again then I may get them again but right now I have one very poorly male who I may have euthanize and 1 female left who seems OK for the moment.
Vanessa is that your name not everybody can be as perfect as you😂😂😂