It’s Time for the Chief Justice to Resign | The West Wing
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Season 5 Episode 7: Separation of Power
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Matthew Perry was such a good actor. He shined in this role. May he Rest in Peace.
An incredibly human reaction from Joe here, I remember my family being shocked that he would lie even for a moment about the Justice’s condition. But in that moment he’s not only frustrated with the prevailing political winds, but heartbroken that Toby was right.
I agree. I think I would have lied at that moment too.
Do you suppose he knew that the end was near enough? Never saw the show, but that message seemed to be sent and received.
Toby's fictional concerns are now becoming reality.
Unfortunatly they are.
Thomas and Alito were already on the Court waiting for the Three Fools.
Sad but true
@@charliesmith4072 hyperpartisans are the dumbest people on the planet
@@charliesmith4072 - classy, your Honor.
Whoever is uploading for the channel is on point today!
Thinking back to Matthew’s time on WEST WING I think of this storyline. Joe loves the Chief Justice so much, and his heart aches.
And all these Democrats in charge have tunnel vision, only interested in what they need. Toby, especially, can forget to even think of the other person’s feelings.
I’m glad to finally have the season and episode listed so I can follow all of Joe’s time in the Bartlett White House.
Did a supreme court justice go into a coma today or something?
You hear so often from family of the frail, dying and very elderley: 'He always bounces back' and 'he's a fighter' or 'He's in really good health'.
Imho this was a classic example of why Supreme Court and federal court justices should have age limits. In Australia about 40+ years ago we made 75 the mandatory retirement age and our legal system hasn’t fallen apart! Also ALL our High Court (the equivalent of the US Supreme Court) justices are expected to recuse themselves from any possible political decisions!
@@michaelhayden725 Huh? Who is left if everyone's recusing themselves?
@@JonSmith-hk1bq the 6 who were not nominated by DTrump, they at least have shown some impartiality.
@@michaelhayden725 That doesn't answer the question. Which was who makes the decision of everyone is mandated to recuse?
And just so you know, when tabulating their rulings, Trump's nominees make up 3 of the 4 members most moderate members of the court. The Democrat-nominated members comprise the 5th, 6th, and 9th most moderate. So, there's really no cause for your statement. Trump's judges are actually very serious people.
1. Kudos to whoever uploaded this today of all days.
2. Matthew was incredible in his time on The West Wing
3. Toby was right. Painful and inhumane as it appeared to be, Toby was right.
100%
This cannot possibly be a coincidence.
A Magnolia reference?
This is a great call to how there should be age limits to public office.
This and the most recent presidential debate.
Funny how that only seems to apply to one side
Age limits? No. Capability test? Yes.
Not necessarily age limits, but cognitive and ethical tests. I am not sure which candidate would fare worse.
Capability, cognitive, and ethical tests are all subjective. You can't argue against a birth certificate. Many state and local level judges have age limits already. There's absolutely no reason not to change the supreme court justice appointments to "up to age XX." I suggest age 72, maybe age 75.
If most of the general public retires by age 70 or 72 (if not before), then that's good enough for politicians and judges too.
I would have thrown a "he really appreciated your concern" line as I walked away.
It’s so funny that people think that this is somehow comparable to Joe Biden. It’s funny and sad.
Remember this: 80 million of us would rather vote for a potted plant than Donald Trump. We love our country too much.
Good timing for this video.
What a great show his was! So many of the political topics have returned in ridiculous form today.
There is something in the West Wing to suit anything currently going on in DC. Case in point posting this after last Thursday.
I'm today old in realizing this was Matthew Perry. 🙄🤦♀
The Country needs for Liberals and Conservatives to quit the bickering and come to a mutual agreement on what is best for the citizens of the United States
He has good and bad days :)
Oh my god
Joseph Biden, take note and abdicate.
One of the most emotional and resonant - and increasingly relevant - storylines of the whole series.
Great edit work by the channel mod, by the way, it's appreciated, thank you.
Perry should have done more serious roles. He had some good acting chops.
Again, there should be term limits. We have seen in recent years, people occupying positions of authority and power who were well past the time of retirement. Having a lifetime hold over a role is something I strongly disagree with.
I do sympathize with Joe perspective, but ultimately, I agree with Toby's standpoint.
I'm more of a fan of age limits instead of term limits. There's nothing inherently wrong with someone staying in politics for a long time, and the issue of people amassing wealth or power over their time there can be dealt with by other laws and regulations. There definitely is something wrong with letting someone remain in politics after their physical, or particularly mental, faculties have started to fail or wear out from old age. Just like how we make aging folks retire from the workplace in their 60s, so to should politicians be forced out at the same age. The average age of the US Congress is currently 58, so just age limits alone would help clean the legislature up and allow more opportunities for fresh faces to get in.
@@_Hoagie - I'm personally for both (whichever is more relevant to the position at hand).
Whilst I'm sure that there are exceptions to this rule, most people over the age of 70 don't have the mental and physical stamina and capabilities to hold down a full-time job - especially one where you hold significant power, authority and influence. Which is what public office is all about.
Then get a constitutional amendment. I never liked Toby. Too self righteous. Do i want him deciding which should sit on the bench? You heard his opinion about it? There ARE term limits. Elections.
@@_Hoagie Age limits are an interesting idea. Term limits, on the other hand, are a terrible one. People are against ‘insiders’ nowadays, but these political and government positions are like any other job. People develop salient skills and knowledge as they gain experience. They also can develop trust with one another, that can help them get things done and weather tough times together. Term limits are a way to ensure that amateurs are in charge. A remedy that is worse than the disease it aims to cure.
@@_Hoagie We do not make aging folks retire from the work place - they choose to retire or they are let go often because they cost their employers too much in benefits and salary over a long tenure. The GOP wants to increase the year you can claim social security to 70 instead of 65. Recently I watched Dr Fauci be interviewed by Lawrence O'Donnell and he's the same age as President Biden but he comes across much younger. The presidency ages everyone. Individuals age differently. I think an upper age limit is fine for the year you would begin your administration - 70 is about right as a max. But in my opinion, age is not the big problem but how long they have to be lobbied and have millions of dollars funneled into their campaigns to buy a vote and stay in power. Citizens United (2010) was a huge turning point, not the beginning of all the pay to play but it opened the door to much bigger influence and dollars pumping into the campaigns.
Whoever is uploading these should really proofread their titles, not sure who the Chief of Justice is lol
People do that intentionally to get a bunch of people to comment about it. Lots of comments drives the algorithm. Cynical but true.
@@sasjhwa I'd like to think the official WW channel is above that, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt
Is it official or is it just the name they got to first? @@scottb.3905
I assumed it was the attorney general, or someone who worked with him. The chief of the Justice Department.
@@scottb.3905 They have good days and bad days.
Just a patient getting a nebulizer treatment without an RT in sight.
I take a nebulizer at home without a nurse?
@@matthewgeschke5378 That's amazing. I'm glad you cracked the code. That wasn't my point. I was making a light hearted joke about a SUPREME COURT JUSTICE IN THE HOSPITAL GETTING A MEDICAL PROCEDURE WITHOUT A LICENSED MEDICAL PROVIDER AROUND. If I need to use smaller words let me know.
@@pymptonUse smaller words.
FDJT. How's that?
@@pympton Clear and succinct, thank you. :)
And then RBG wouldn’t resign and handed Trump the nomination out of pure selfishness
She couldn’t resign. There was a Republican led Senate.
She correctly predicted exactly what they would do if she wasn’t there.
And who handed Trump the replacement for Scalia?
And now Stephen Breyer???
Wow, a very timely clip!
"I don’t know what he said at the end of that sentence, I don’t think he knows either’"
RIP Matt 😢
It's weird because everybody talks about the supreme court being independent and yet every president who can appoints his own people, to sway it one way or another. Terms should be fixed and the chief justice should be independent of any party.
No such thing as true independence. Everyone leans one way or the other. And ultimately, all courts are fundamentally conservative, because it's their job to read and protect the law, not change it.
who’s watching this after the trump v. united states decision?
I am.
Algorithm out here with zero chill
Me. So depressing
Wow this is pretty relevant actually @potus
Timely!
Ironic.
Whish this administration had a Tobey
Like all conservatives, in important moments he lied. Thomas and Alito were already on the court when this program ran.
Garbage. He didn't lie because he was conservative, he lied because he loved.
How long was Mathhew on this show?
Several episodes, he was very good. Almost as good as Joey and Phoebe's stints, those were real classics.
Hey Chandler. Miss you bud 😢
If you do what is right....emotions should never be considered.
You're talking about apathy, and it's dangerous. Get therapy.
@@MadAboutBrows You First Slick! I'm good. 😉
A timely posting. TERM LIMITS! The original idea for lifetime appointments was so they wouldn't be influenced by outside sources, knowing they had a job for life. We can see how that's working out with the greedy bastards on the Court now. No amount of money is ever enough for some people. I'd even give them a limit as long as 20 years but then they have to leave and live under the same laws they helped reinforce as the rest of us.
sad when people are in denial. but yeah hes a good actor in this scene. funny how most of the actors in friends really were kinda so so in that show. but after they left it branched out more
It's false to assume that Matthew Perry's character lied. Look at their eyes -- the fact is, Toby knew the Chief Justice was unconscious the whole time, cuz Joe told him in his body language. What he says is less important, even though it's the essence -- LOYALTY.
Toby knows Joe is the Chief Justice's man. So he didn't ask for disloyalty, which is what ratting out the Chief would have been. Toby got what he really asked for -- a candor beyond words.
Subtle West Wing... subtle....
Surreal watching this after the Biden situation
the way it's supposed to be, retire when it's time!
that debate was a disaster. But needed. America needed to see The Real Joe Biden vs Teleprompter Joe Biden.
@@hazeleyees.. Jan 6th, convicted rapist, felon, narcissist buffoon, traitor etc etc etc... but okay with you?
@@hazeleyees
I'll keep that in mind given that literally every single word out of Trump's mouth was a complete and deliberate lie and would have been no matter who the Democrat could have been.
@@hazeleyeesDisaster for both. One lied the other...
😂🤣😂🤣
You want to get lied to? Talk to a Republican. That’s the moral of the story.
An exercise in how to write a character all wrong. No way Toby is this aggressive when he knows a man is on his death bed. He would want the Chief Justice to resign, yes, but he wouldn't be this mean about it.
Toby has laser vision, he’s the harshest of the group. You notice all the young staff judge ‘Democrats-good. Republicans-bad’ And I know this could have been reverse Party Administration and it could be the same. Leo has a much calmer demeanor, and kinder attitude. “Let’s just take five and talk about it.” With age comes wisdom.
I remember Ronald Reagan said Tip O’Neill was one of his closest friends, ‘after 6 P.M.’
Toby isn’t being that mean about it. Part is him wants the chief justice to resign with dignity - as we hear later in this episode or another where he talks about his admiration for this man
This video is quite pertinent right now after the reports are rolling in from The White House aids about just how bad Biden ACTUALLY has been this last year
Sounds like they could have been talking about Joe Biden or Ruth Bader Ginsburg in her later terms.
Or Feinstein.
Man, Biden looks bad here
A liberal icon reduced to a Quivering mass of octogenarian confusion. That’s pretty on the nose at this moment in time 😂
As opposed to a congenitally lying septuagenarian one-man crime-wave?
Would have been nice to send this video to Associate Justice Ginsburg
I love Joe Biden.....when he was FULLY Joe Biden........this scene hits home after last nights debate .....and it hurts.....I wish so much .....he was still HIM.....my gramps had a saying ( I am sure you all know) "wish in one hand spit in the other...see which one gets fuller , faster"
When was he fully Joe Biden, when he cribbed a speech from Neil Kinnock, the head of British Labour Party?
I gotta agree with Chandler here; Toby is way out of line.
Toby was so wrong in every possible way in everything he said its laughable.