This sort of stuff is Gold Glenn, I'm a big fan of comparisons, and speed runs. I think it was a really good improvement over the Sports Tuned. Maybe the bigger difference on the 3s was just because it hit the sweet spot on that motor, and with the added bearings, it allowed it to run a little more efficient.Keep up the good work.
@@TAMIYALegends Well you are doing a good job of it. I've got a video coming up soon... ordered a suspect fake Sport Tuned from China, and ordered a real one from Japan. Hoping to get some proper tests to see the difference! And if it turns out the Chinese one is fake, it'll be getting destroyed in spectacular fashion! lol
I’m glad Tamiya still offering these super stocks. Sagami micro motors in Japan manufactures these motors for Tamiya. Before the take over of brushless Sagami manufacturer almost all the high performance brushed motors for other brands (Orion, Yokomo, Kawada, Atlas, Etc). The other was Tokyo-Mech who made motors for Team Trinity (EPIC). Most new brush motors being made now (black can and copper end bell) are made in China and the build quality is no we’re near as good as the older Japanese built ones.
I heard rz was for Road or Race, bz was for Buggy, and tz was Torque. The bz motor comes with 2 foam dirt filters that go over the can, but they hide the beautiful motor. I would rather just clean it regularly. P.s. I only run my bz on a small 3s and it is glorious!!!!!! And once again... thanks Glenn.
Didn’t know the RZ motor was for touring cars. I have one in my Wild One, have to say it’s brilliant, pulls the front end of the ground, plenty of torque and speed, all on a NIMH battery. Great vids Glenn 👍🏼
When you say that you want speed but don't want to damage the car, I totally understand lol. I'm the same with my cars, not about that destruction life. I'd rather keep mine in a fairly good condition and still have fun with them. 👌👍
Excellent video, great to actually see the differences between these motors in real terms.I can say this... I have Super Stock RZ’s in both a Hornet & a Wild One. Both obviously 2wd.. and running a 2s Lipo, they wheely and wheelspin if you gun the throttle. I’ve looked at the figures for the differences in torque between the BZ & RZ they’re both the same! ... only difference on paper between the 2 is that the RZ has 1000 rpm more.
Thanks for showing the motor strip down and bearing replacement, very interesting. You said you would post a link to the Happy RC website in the description but I can't see it??
That makes a lot of sense now because there isn't much difference between the bz and rz but maybe 1000 rpm the biggest difference I saw was it hitting max efficiency at different times.
loving these speed runs, once you are done with the current motors, would be interesting to see the performance of the vintage tamiya motors...technigold, dynatech...etc. in that speed machine...and just for a laugh see if you could somehow make a 380 size motor fit in just to see...haha!! keep up the great work glen!! we all eagerly await your next instalment.
Yep! Putting both in the freezer makes it pointless. You want the bearing in the freezer so it shrinks. Plus to make a difference the bearing would have to be in the freezer for at least a couple of hours!
Very interesting stuff Glenn. The car looked like it drove nice n straight to 👌 Can't wait to see the next vid. Thanks for the entertainment mate, definitely helping keep me sane during social distancing in Australia haha 👍🦘🇦🇺
Nice results, I'm planning to built up my TT-02SR with the TBLM-02s 10.5 turn and TBLE-02s ESC , pinion size I'm not sure yet. A high speed spur gear is also on it's way and a set of foam tires, maybe they will get better results? I'm not ready yet to switch to Lipo, stick to NiMh batteries for now. You sound very English but resides in Canada? Also saw an older movie where you were a little slimmer.. Lol. Well keep them coming those movies. Cheers.
Interessant video, thanks for it. Does the bearing kit is the same for all the Tamiya brushed motor? Can you show wich tool you used to go out the bearing from the cage and the haed motor please? Thanks a lot from France!!
David LEGER Yes I believe the motor bearings are the same size. The brass bushes will just knock out gently. But the new bearings in the freezer for a couple of hours, they will then be much easier to fit👊🏻
What would be cool if u made some kind of graft or scale with all of the motors down the left side and battery and set up across the top, maybe even the gear ratio on there. then what speed you get from each I think it would give the viewers something physical to see and to be able to see the difference between each
The disparity is because when on 2s the bz does not have the torque to get to full speed. The extra oomph (technical term) of 3s gives it that extra juice
With regards to sliding the bearing in. What if you cut a plastic soda bottle small enough to fit along the inside walls of the motor can? Would that interfere with the magnets? Thanks for the video. They are always good stuff!
Aron Linkhorn Thanks Aron 😊👊🏻 Both great kits, I’d personally go for the 2011, the Black edition was really cool because it was supposed to be a very limited run of them. But Tamiya just kept making more of them 😞 The Avante is my favourite car of all time and I just love it, which ever one you go for I’m sure you’ll absolutely love 🤩👊🏻
Such a fine line between going fast - and NOT destroying the Car!! 😲 I ran a B Zed in my Frog once... DESTROYED my Gearbox!! 😖 Very Torquey Motor! Looked pretty FAST!! 👌😎 Carmine ✈🚂🚙
They can TAKE 3S.... To a point. The BZ has stronger Magnets, that's why the wider mph spread between 2S and 3S Batries then the "not identical" 23T BZ vs. the 23T Sport Tuned Motor...
PoorManRC Thanks for the information my friend 😊 Yes you’ll hopefully see in the future videos the faster it goes, the less fun it is 😞 Thanks for watching 😊👊🏻
So when you get into better magnets the reason why it’s not working as good is they are really made for higher voltage so it’s not that odd that it doesn’t like 2s
Hm got any extra rear diffs in parts ? might be able too mount that in the front so you got decent braking rather then a one way in the front which is more commonly used for drifting setups or when you race on carpet.
Hey Glenn, love these types of films as much as the build films, doing great things, and you explain really well, which to me means a lot. I use the torque tuned motors in all mine, just as a bit of a hop up from the norm. Keep up the amazing work. Hope you get some sunshine soon. Ta. D. 😊👍🏻
I think for overall balance between speed and performance on 2s the good old sport tuned still seems hard to beat! but yeah its getting faster and faster each motor and more bum squeaky!! That on coming road has me nervous as you try to stop this thing! Try not to cause a pile up with the passing traffic!😬 Great stuff again mate👍
@@TAMIYALegends lol l keep forgetting the time lapse in the videos and you are not in jail so must of all been ok! I Look forward to the next vid mate keep them coming 😉👍
Great vid 👍. Really interesting to see these comparisons. I thought you might have done a BZ test in standard form to see the comparison against the sport tuned. Then fit the bearings in the BZ to compare it to the time you'll set with the modified RZ which would give you an idea of the time the RZ would have set in standard form. If you know what I mean 😄.
Sorry don’t know if I’ve missed it in the videos or just don’t remember. What do you mean by 2s and 3s. Is that to do with different types of speed controller?
TAMIYA Legends Ah batteries. Thanks for that. Watching your videos has got me up in the loft to dig out my Sand Scorcher that I was given by a friend of my dads back in 1986! All original, shell had a rough life and is in a state, so I’ve just finished a box art white / blue re re shell, a re re Rough Rider shell in box art orange and I’m waiting on some paint to finish the box art Ranger F-150 shell which I’ve converted from a new Blackfoot shell. All with new correct rims and tyres. You’ve cost me an absolute bloody fortune during this lockdown!! And......I’ve just started stripping the paint on my original TA-01 Escort Cosworth shell. 👍🏼😁
Great video G man💪 have literally just got a bz motor definitely will have to ball race it after seeing this 👌my original idea was for my monster beetle but after a bit of looking into and asking the hombres I've decided to go dirt tuned so doesn't shat it's pants and the bz can pop into the wild one😁👌
is it the stock spur in this one? another good video bud and it sounds like it was smother than the sports tunned. can you get belt tensioners for the belts? it sounds like those belts are wipping around on 3s
A couple of days ago I was looking on the market place one of those local sells group on that Facebook thing. But the thing is was that seller was from another state and nowhere really close to me. I'm in Alabama so idk y it showed on mine but anyways. The seller had at the time over 100 vintage brushed motors. From Tamiya, kyosho to Trinity. All kinds. It looked like big boxes of crayons. Lol. But the prices ranged from $5-$30. So if ur interested I'll try and find it again and try to get the info to u
just removeing the bushing an putting a bearing in the back end of the motor will be like doubleing the motor how smooth it will be to the way it was oh yeah dude
ryan lozada All the runs so far have been with the Tamiya TEU-302BK ESC. The next video in this series is the same using the RZ motor. But after that I switch to the TBLE02S to run the Tamiya 10.5t brushless motor 👊🏻
Dose the ESC have “Drag Brake” ? This helps, look into it. Does the Transmitter have “Steering sensitivity” ( Steering Expo ) adjusting this, will also help with high speed runs. The Front Diff will make the biggest difference. We’ll be seeing 100kmh+ pass soon👍🏻😎
I can’t believe that for the price of the Tamiya motors they don’t come with bearings as stock. Watched Adam (RC Action Australia) last night swap out the bushes for bearings. I questioned why it didn’t have bearings and he informed me that no Tamiya motors have bearings! I’m shocked 😱 But watching both your uploads having given me the knowledge on how to swap out those bushes. Do you run your motors in? Do they need running in? Cheers Paul👍🤓🇦🇺
Paul Garwood I must admit I’ve never ran a motor in lol 🤷🏼♂️ but I know plenty of guys that do. It’s only the Tamiya stock motors that are bushed, all the modified’s have bearings as standard Paul 👊🏻
The Tamiya super stock motors follow the JMRCA specification for competition racing when 23turn brush motors were used years ago before everything switched to brushless.
The method should be: warm the motor can (to make it expand) and freeze the bearings (to make it shrink) once they are fitted the temperature normalises the bearing will stay tight in place… personally wouldn’t warm the resin bell end should push in easily enough if aligned correctly..
why not use a long wooden tooth pick or kebab stick (how you call it in English. In Dutch is saté stok) to put in the center of the bearing and then slide it into the motor housing. No metal (just the bearing) and then press it in with the backside of an Edding marker ?
mathieu leborgne Lol this is a video series working up from a silver can 540 to a 5750kv 6.5t. I’m showing the difference in mph on each motor. No point going straight to the mad motor, where’s the fun in that 😂👊🏻
Change out the tires to some off road style block tires and you won't spin out any more, They will give you tons of traction!!, I bought some generic ones off Ebay for about 10 dollars and it made my car handle like it was on velcro. Before that, I used slicks and spun out of control like your car did when you try to slow down and break. Then you won't be worried about breaking you car anymore because the new tires give you some much more control. You can stop on a dime! Beware that if you start drifting at high speed with the cheap generic block tires off Ebay, the wheels will break. Oh, and you may need to re-glue the tires when you get them., since the glue they use is a little weak., but other than that, they work great! Click the link below to see the tires I'm talking about. You will be shocked how well they work!!! www.ebay.com/itm/393299427134?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20201210111314%26meid%3D39e5fda6209548b4afaae37756288f55%26pid%3D101195%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D202654211242%26itm%3D393299427134%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv9PairwiseUnbiasedWeb%26brand%3DHPI&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851
Hi mate Can you send me a rc car to me?? Sorry to ask but I don’t have any money to buy one 😔 I am inside house with a big depression and that can help me to go a little outside because I love rc cars 😊😔
This sort of stuff is Gold Glenn, I'm a big fan of comparisons, and speed runs. I think it was a really good improvement over the Sports Tuned. Maybe the bigger difference on the 3s was just because it hit the sweet spot on that motor, and with the added bearings, it allowed it to run a little more efficient.Keep up the good work.
Tomley RC
Thanks Phil, it’s be fun doing them tbh, something different for me 😊👊🏻
@@TAMIYALegends Well you are doing a good job of it. I've got a video coming up soon... ordered a suspect fake Sport Tuned from China, and ordered a real one from Japan. Hoping to get some proper tests to see the difference! And if it turns out the Chinese one is fake, it'll be getting destroyed in spectacular fashion! lol
Tomley RC
Oh now that’s a video I’m looking forward to seeing 🤓👊🏻
That's so quick!!!! 88mph!!! Back to future man!
Ryan Newby
Yeah it gets quicker yet lol 😂
🚗💨💨💨💨
I’m glad Tamiya still offering these super stocks. Sagami micro motors in Japan manufactures these motors for Tamiya. Before the take over of brushless Sagami manufacturer almost all the high performance brushed motors for other brands (Orion, Yokomo, Kawada, Atlas, Etc). The other was Tokyo-Mech who made motors for Team Trinity (EPIC). Most new brush motors being made now (black can and copper end bell) are made in China and the build quality is no we’re near as good as the older Japanese built ones.
79 kph is definitely fast! Great video. Love these comparisons ❤️
Nordic RC Visions
Thank you my friend 🤩👊🏻
I heard rz was for Road or Race, bz was for Buggy, and tz was Torque. The bz motor comes with 2 foam dirt filters that go over the can, but they hide the beautiful motor. I would rather just clean it regularly. P.s. I only run my bz on a small 3s and it is glorious!!!!!! And once again... thanks Glenn.
Peter Renaud
Excellent thanks for watching Peter 😊
Didn’t know the RZ motor was for touring cars. I have one in my Wild One, have to say it’s brilliant, pulls the front end of the ground, plenty of torque and speed, all on a NIMH battery. Great vids Glenn 👍🏼
user230378
Yeah I actually don’t think any of the three super stock motors are restricted to certain styles of car, they all run great 😎🚗💨💨
When you say that you want speed but don't want to damage the car, I totally understand lol. I'm the same with my cars, not about that destruction life. I'd rather keep mine in a fairly good condition and still have fun with them. 👌👍
Synapse
Yes 100% my friend, hopefully you’ll see as the series continues I start to enjoy it less and less 😬
Thanks for watching buddy 👊🏻
It looks so good! Awesome bro!
STEVO D 313
Thanks Steve 😊👊🏻
Hope you guys are staying safe
I think imma forgot to mention to you Glen that there is a new Tamiya chassis coming out called the tc01.
Brad Kalman
Yeah formula E 🤩👊🏻
@@TAMIYALegends what do you mean Formula E.
What a little ripper! Loving these vids Glenn 👍
Timmo
Thanks buddy 😎👊🏻
Excellent video, great to actually see the differences between these motors in real terms.I can say this... I have Super Stock RZ’s in both a Hornet & a Wild One. Both obviously 2wd.. and running a 2s Lipo, they wheely and wheelspin if you gun the throttle. I’ve looked at the figures for the differences in torque between the BZ & RZ they’re both the same! ... only difference on paper between the 2 is that the RZ has 1000 rpm more.
mitchlaw1210
Hmmm you’re right about the torque 🤷🏼♂️. I wonder where I read that they were different 🤔🤷🏼♂️
Thanks for watching buddy 👊🏻
Thanks for showing how to replace the bushings with bearings.
I'm absolutely loving these speed run videos 😊 I would love to see a comparison video in the summer when it's warmer and you will have more grip.
paulus842000
Yeah and a longer road too 😂👊🏻
Thanks for watching buddy
great run Glenn mate yep freaks me out when it come to slowing down👍😊😎🇬🇧🇬🇧👊
Leons rc hobbys
Yeah it takes the fun out of it unfortunately Leon 😬
Thanks for showing the motor strip down and bearing replacement, very interesting. You said you would post a link to the Happy RC website in the description but I can't see it??
Ministrone
www.happyrc.net/apps/webstore/
Keenly staying tune for the next run
Matt Hutch
Thanks Matt 👊🏻
That makes a lot of sense now because there isn't much difference between the bz and rz but maybe 1000 rpm the biggest difference I saw was it hitting max efficiency at different times.
mitymike 1996
Thanks for watching buddy 😊👊🏻
great video glen do you think i could get some bearings for my QD Tamiya trail master from happy rc
stephen preece
Maybe I’ve put a link to his website in the description Stephen 👊🏻
I forgot to do the torque tuned which would have been after the regular stock motor.
loving these speed runs, once you are done with the current motors, would be interesting to see the performance of the vintage tamiya motors...technigold, dynatech...etc. in that speed machine...and just for a laugh see if you could somehow make a 380 size motor fit in just to see...haha!!
keep up the great work glen!! we all eagerly await your next instalment.
Scott B
Excellent thanks Scott 🤩👊🏻
Can't wait for the next run.
tamiya frog
Thanks buddy 😊👊🏻
Love it, top work Glen👍 Looking forward to the rz next👊 Might need a longer stretch of road next🤔
Nostalgic rc
Thanks buddy, yeah that road becomes an issue over the next couple of videos 😂👊🏻
That's going great and no damage has to be a bonus! 👍
RC Hobby Shed
Thanks Mick 😊👊🏻
Great speed run! The "motor service" is also very ist interesting A!
Sven Maier
Thanks buddy 😊👊🏻
Nice super stock tamiya brand high add power gift the fitback
Freeze the bearings not the can the idea is to make the bearings shrink so they will drop in easier
Yep! Putting both in the freezer makes it pointless. You want the bearing in the freezer so it shrinks. Plus to make a difference the bearing would have to be in the freezer for at least a couple of hours!
George Jones
Yeah sorry I got that one seriously wrong 😞
Matt Taylor
Got that wrong sorry 😞
@@BrendanRaymondKoroKoro tamiya not lol, you lol bro 😜
@@BrendanRaymondKoroKoro ,you stay at home Ok you see, stay at hell haaa haaaa 😜😜😜
Very interesting stuff Glenn.
The car looked like it drove nice n straight to 👌
Can't wait to see the next vid.
Thanks for the entertainment mate, definitely helping keep me sane during social distancing in Australia haha 👍🦘🇦🇺
Outback RC Australia
Thanks my friend 😎👊🏻
Loving your work Glen 👍
michael cowley
Thank you 😊👊🏻
Nice results, I'm planning to built up my TT-02SR with the TBLM-02s 10.5 turn and TBLE-02s ESC , pinion size I'm not sure yet. A high speed spur gear is also on it's way and a set of foam tires, maybe they will get better results? I'm not ready yet to switch to Lipo, stick to NiMh batteries for now. You sound very English but resides in Canada? Also saw an older movie where you were a little slimmer.. Lol. Well keep them coming those movies. Cheers.
Sonny
Excellent thanks for watching buddy 😊👊🏻
i not going to miss out on you teaching how to change them out my friend
I have a tb03r with a front spool and it brakes on a dime!
Todd L
Excellent 😎👊🏻
Would be interested in seeing the torque tuned and the technigold in this series as well.
James Thomson
Cheers James 😊👊🏻
POWER!!
Stew- Mac
Thanks buddy 😎👊🏻
Awesome car, do you know anyone that has spare spur gear set for the Tamiya road wizard
Patrick Leonard
I don’t unfortunately Patrick sorry buddy 😬
Interessant video, thanks for it. Does the bearing kit is the same for all the Tamiya brushed motor? Can you show wich tool you used to go out the bearing from the cage and the haed motor please? Thanks a lot from France!!
David LEGER
Yes I believe the motor bearings are the same size. The brass bushes will just knock out gently. But the new bearings in the freezer for a couple of hours, they will then be much easier to fit👊🏻
@@TAMIYALegends ok thanks you very much. Regards
What would be cool if u made some kind of graft or scale with all of the motors down the left side and battery and set up across the top, maybe even the gear ratio on there. then what speed you get from each I think it would give the viewers something physical to see and to be able to see the difference between each
Brian Argo
Yeah in hindsight I definitely should of done that Brian, I’ll bare that in mind if I do something like this again 👊🏻
The disparity is because when on 2s the bz does not have the torque to get to full speed. The extra oomph (technical term) of 3s gives it that extra juice
Lee Hurst
Interesting thanks Lee 🤓👊🏻
Nice sir thx your info,
You know there's a TZ model of those to you should look for one.
Can’t wait to see the next one. Maybe the 2s battery was sagging a little.
slebdad
Thanks buddy 😊👊🏻
With regards to sliding the bearing in. What if you cut a plastic soda bottle small enough to fit along the inside walls of the motor can? Would that interfere with the magnets? Thanks for the video. They are always good stuff!
Great video as always-can we see the crash reel?!
Greg Hurst
Yeah that might make an appearance after the series is finished 😂👊🏻
Love the vids. Looking at getting an Avante 2011 or Avante Black special any preference as the Black about £80 more. Cheers & stay safe.
Aron Linkhorn
Thanks Aron 😊👊🏻
Both great kits, I’d personally go for the 2011, the Black edition was really cool because it was supposed to be a very limited run of them. But Tamiya just kept making more of them 😞
The Avante is my favourite car of all time and I just love it, which ever one you go for I’m sure you’ll absolutely love 🤩👊🏻
TAMIYA Legends fantastic thanks. Just trying to secure one so difficult to find. Stay safe.
Such a fine line between going fast - and NOT destroying the Car!! 😲
I ran a B Zed in my Frog once... DESTROYED my Gearbox!! 😖 Very Torquey Motor!
Looked pretty FAST!! 👌😎
Carmine ✈🚂🚙
They can TAKE 3S.... To a point. The BZ has stronger Magnets, that's why the wider mph spread between 2S and 3S Batries then the "not identical" 23T BZ vs. the 23T Sport Tuned Motor...
PoorManRC
Thanks for the information my friend 😊
Yes you’ll hopefully see in the future videos the faster it goes, the less fun it is 😞
Thanks for watching 😊👊🏻
Actually gets a bit scary!! 😲
Cold shrinks stuff, heat expands.
hanger9uk
Yes sorry I got that totally wrong 😬
Hey, I know this is an old video, but have you ever heard of breaking in the brushed motor, while submerged in water?
Crazy!!!! Always fun to watch. Thanks Glen!
chris venianakis
Thanks for watching Chris 😊👊🏻
Is it not just the new bearings that go in the freezer to contract them
Lee Hurst
Yep I got that totally wrong 😬
So when you get into better magnets the reason why it’s not working as good is they are really made for higher voltage so it’s not that odd that it doesn’t like 2s
Hm got any extra rear diffs in parts ? might be able too mount that in the front so you got decent braking rather then a one way in the front which is more commonly used for drifting setups or when you race on carpet.
Marcus60661
Yeah unfortunately not, I don’t have anything 😬
Thanks for watching buddy 👊🏻
Hey Glenn, love these types of films as much as the build films, doing great things, and you explain really well, which to me means a lot. I use the torque tuned motors in all mine, just as a bit of a hop up from the norm.
Keep up the amazing work. Hope you get some sunshine soon.
Ta. D. 😊👍🏻
Dave Pearce
Thanks buddy 😊👊🏻
Yeah man that’s cool your gunna need foams soon 😂😂👍👍
David Turner
Lol yes you’re right David 😎🚗💨💨
I think for overall balance between speed and performance on 2s the good old sport tuned still seems hard to beat! but yeah its getting faster and faster each motor and more bum squeaky!! That on coming road has me nervous as you try to stop this thing! Try not to cause a pile up with the passing traffic!😬
Great stuff again mate👍
Mad-Bee RC & BB
Yes you’re spot on 😂👊🏻
I think I decided to only do it one way on the next video 😬
@@TAMIYALegends lol l keep forgetting the time lapse in the videos and you are not in jail so must of all been ok! I Look forward to the next vid mate keep them coming 😉👍
Great vid 👍. Really interesting to see these comparisons. I thought you might have done a BZ test in standard form to see the comparison against the sport tuned. Then fit the bearings in the BZ to compare it to the time you'll set with the modified RZ which would give you an idea of the time the RZ would have set in standard form. If you know what I mean 😄.
squareblueorange
Yeah you’re spot on, I should of done that 😬
What is the spur and pinion you are using for these motors? Sorry i missed it.
Dev&D RC
The car is using 48dp gears, 69t spur with a 36t pinion 👊🏻
Hi, have You had any problem with 3S on the tamiya teu 302bk? Grazie
Sorry don’t know if I’ve missed it in the videos or just don’t remember. What do you mean by 2s and 3s. Is that to do with different types of speed controller?
170mushroom
That’s the batteries I’m using, 2s Lipo and 3s Lipo, basically 2-3cell.
Thanks for watching buddy 😊👊🏻
TAMIYA Legends Ah batteries. Thanks for that. Watching your videos has got me up in the loft to dig out my Sand Scorcher that I was given by a friend of my dads back in 1986! All original, shell had a rough life and is in a state, so I’ve just finished a box art white / blue re re shell, a re re Rough Rider shell in box art orange and I’m waiting on some paint to finish the box art Ranger F-150 shell which I’ve converted from a new Blackfoot shell. All with new correct rims and tyres. You’ve cost me an absolute bloody fortune during this lockdown!! And......I’ve just started stripping the paint on my original TA-01 Escort Cosworth shell. 👍🏼😁
Great video G man💪 have literally just got a bz motor definitely will have to ball race it after seeing this 👌my original idea was for my monster beetle but after a bit of looking into and asking the hombres I've decided to go dirt tuned so doesn't shat it's pants and the bz can pop into the wild one😁👌
is it the stock spur in this one? another good video bud and it sounds like it was smother than the sports tunned.
can you get belt tensioners for the belts? it sounds like those belts are wipping around on 3s
adrian harrison
The gearing is 48dp using a 69t spur with a 36t pinion. Yeah I think I tighten the belts up in the next video 👊🏻
A good cheap radio seup also with a gyro may help, I have a FS-GT5 that I will be using in my lunchbox and clod as it has 4ws..
i think they are $100
What esc and size pinion were you using ?
Richard Looker
I’m using the Tamiya TEU-302BK ESC, the gearing is 48dp 69t spur with a 36t pinion 👊🏻
@@TAMIYALegends wow!!!!
A couple of days ago I was looking on the market place one of those local sells group on that Facebook thing. But the thing is was that seller was from another state and nowhere really close to me. I'm in Alabama so idk y it showed on mine but anyways. The seller had at the time over 100 vintage brushed motors. From Tamiya, kyosho to Trinity. All kinds. It looked like big boxes of crayons. Lol. But the prices ranged from $5-$30. So if ur interested I'll try and find it again and try to get the info to u
Brian Argo
Yeah if you don’t mind I’d love to have a look for sure 👊🏻
Would limiting speed trim be helpful with this motor and turn it up when you need speed?
just removeing the bushing an putting a bearing in the back end of the motor will be like doubleing the motor how smooth it will be to the way it was oh yeah dude
What esc you are using sir glenn? Its fast. Thank you
ryan lozada
All the runs so far have been with the Tamiya TEU-302BK ESC. The next video in this series is the same using the RZ motor. But after that I switch to the TBLE02S to run the Tamiya 10.5t brushless motor 👊🏻
Dose the ESC have “Drag Brake” ? This helps, look into it.
Does the Transmitter have “Steering sensitivity” ( Steering Expo ) adjusting this, will also help with high speed runs.
The Front Diff will make the biggest difference. We’ll be seeing 100kmh+ pass soon👍🏻😎
Rcalltypes
Thanks buddy no unfortunately I had nether on this series 😬
But yes we do hit over 100kph on the last video 🚗💨💨💨
You could even heat the can slightly
George Jones
Thanks for the feedback George 👊🏻
I can’t believe that for the price of the Tamiya motors they don’t come with bearings as stock. Watched Adam (RC Action Australia) last night swap out the bushes for bearings. I questioned why it didn’t have bearings and he informed me that no Tamiya motors have bearings! I’m shocked 😱 But watching both your uploads having given me the knowledge on how to swap out those bushes.
Do you run your motors in? Do they need running in? Cheers Paul👍🤓🇦🇺
Paul Garwood
I must admit I’ve never ran a motor in lol 🤷🏼♂️ but I know plenty of guys that do. It’s only the Tamiya stock motors that are bushed, all the modified’s have bearings as standard Paul 👊🏻
The Tamiya super stock motors follow the JMRCA specification for competition racing when 23turn brush motors were used years ago before everything switched to brushless.
Could you tell me which gear ratio the car was using and if you changed the motor timing:)
Very interested to find out that the BZ is touring and RZ is off-road, what about the TZ? Will you be trying one of those too?
Austen McLEAN
The TZ is apparently for the drift cars🤷🏼♂️
No I don’t have one unfortunately.
Thanks for watching buddy 😊👊🏻
Austen McLEAN I run a rz in my blackfoot and it runs excellent off road :)
I can see many have already said what I was about to say. Well, live and learn:)
Aren’t you meant to put the bearing in the freezer?
The method should be: warm the motor can (to make it expand) and freeze the bearings (to make it shrink) once they are fitted the temperature normalises the bearing will stay tight in place… personally wouldn’t warm the resin bell end should push in easily enough if aligned correctly..
why not use a long wooden tooth pick or kebab stick (how you call it in English. In Dutch is saté stok) to put in the center of the bearing and then slide it into the motor housing. No metal (just the bearing) and then press it in with the backside of an Edding marker ?
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bush bearing is a okay and not really good...
ball bearing is a great and really good fast smooth running very well
bestamerica
Thanks for watching buddy 😊👊🏻
@@TAMIYALegends
hi T L...
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mostly i put alot of ball bearings in my all R/C models
The difference wont remain the same in terms of a set mph.....
It should however, have a similar difference in terms of percentage.....ie 20% quicker
RTS Motorsport
Excellent thanks for the feedback 👊🏻
@@TAMIYALegends Keep up the good work mate 😎👍
That's fast in new Zealand. If it's right. We drive 50 kph at stranded road speed. And highway speeds are 100kph so that's almost as fast as that
Oh yeah if you watch the last video in this series it does 106kph 🤯
Dude, just get a decent 4.5t, 2s with a drive ratio around 3.8 and u'll bring that car to 100km/h^^
mathieu leborgne
Lol this is a video series working up from a silver can 540 to a 5750kv 6.5t. I’m showing the difference in mph on each motor. No point going straight to the mad motor, where’s the fun in that 😂👊🏻
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I get 40mph on a silver can and 45mph on a 380 Sports Tuned with stupid gear ratios and 2S.
Change the ESC braking ability.
Brad Kalman
Thanks Brad 👊🏻
This motor would prob be better with an offroading setup
Change out the tires to some off road style block tires and you won't spin out any more, They will give you tons of traction!!, I bought some generic ones off Ebay for about 10 dollars and it made my car handle like it was on velcro. Before that, I used slicks and spun out of control like your car did when you try to slow down and break. Then you won't be worried about breaking you car anymore because the new tires give you some much more control. You can stop on a dime! Beware that if you start drifting at high speed with the cheap generic block tires off Ebay, the wheels will break. Oh, and you may need to re-glue the tires when you get them., since the glue they use is a little weak., but other than that, they work great! Click the link below to see the tires I'm talking about. You will be shocked how well they work!!!
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Hi mate
Can you send me a rc car to me?? Sorry to ask but I don’t have any money to buy one 😔 I am inside house with a big depression and that can help me to go a little outside because I love rc cars 😊😔