I like the lore because they find so many ways to make you ask questions they'll never answer. Like. Just *what* are dragons? They can get pretty eldritch/lovecraft. Remember Deathwing's final boss fight? 100% tentacle increase over the course of the fight.
yessssss this is so awesome and utterly perfect for someone like me. Never had the time to sink into WoW but always loved the lore since Orcs & Humans came out. This is huge, Nobbel. Thank you.
I've been following you for so long and I'm still happy every time there's a new upload to play in the background while I'm chilling! Thanks for the Kalimdor tour!
Ngl, the Bronze Dragon quests in DF make me think along the lines as that Chromie has pushed Nozdormu along his path to become Moruzond. He is now agreeable with the Infinites & believes that sometimes things can be changed. It starts out small, it's just one more time, and then.. Personal theory about the "one" timeline is that it's the one were the Titans win. Like Nozdormu, Aman'Thul could have possibly seen his end and like Moruzond, he decided to change it. One could argue that the madness end that Moruzond was going to give us is better than what the Titans do. I mean would you like to be "Ordered" to basically be machine like, how the Earthern were originally, just following their Edicts, no emotions, no friends. no free will.🤷♂
awesome idea, make it a series! there is so much lore in WoW, a huge shame new players have no way to experience it the way all other games do it: by playing the game
Thanks for video I learned quite a bit more of the lore I for sure didn’t know also You should do a lore on priory of the sacred flame I think it’s such a cool topic
There was a Demon Hunter in Vanilla, out in Azshara on an island he had a pet Felhound. Also Nobbel you should watch Xaxxas' video on Gallywix being a Dreadlord it's great & I think you'd enjoy it. Kind works too.
I took an Earthen from 10 to 70 by just getting exploration XP. ... Kinda sucked that I was undergeared, but it was a lovely way to see Azeroth. Also, um, that hat really is quite silly. I won't judge you, though.
One thing that has been assured to me through this is. The dragons left to their own devices are mediocre at best at protecting the planet and garrosh based Af.
The Elves of Dire Maul didn't feed on each other they instead were like "Well this is getting taxing kill the expendable to balance it out.." As for the War of the Thorns it's Because Saurfang made MAlfurion vulnerable and she was like "Good, ggod. now kill him." and burnt Teldrassil when he refused to demoralize the Night Elve since she didn't have a dead MAlfurion to do that. And the new tree is Amirdrassil
Noble do you also think like me at we will se durotar turn into a jungle if the world gets a rewamp? I mean in the orc heritage quest line the kinda point that way 😊
Ive had to play trough WC3 back then, forced to kill Daelyn, Jaina gave up on family in the name of peace. It was an amazing story but it was also amazingly sad. Daughter of the Sea, i am still listening to this day to this masterpiece, made me hope, THIS TIME Jaina is going to strike back. For Theramore, for Southshore, for Gilneas, for Teldrassil, FOR THE ALLIANCE!!! And we still did not retake Lordaeron post 4th war... biggest L lore wise retail wow did and it will always be for me. So many people dead and we are THERE, and we just pick up and leave??? LBlizzard... L
the whole garosh being evil from the beginning is super dumb retconning just to try and make horde the "badguys" when you meet him in outland he's super down on himself thinks his dad is a tarator who cursed the orcs to war and was treated rather badly by the orcs of outland because well his dad did doom the orcs, we find him introduce him to thral who takes him under his wing shows him how his father saved their entire race with honour he's then kind of left under the care of saurfang and he's overly eager to fight more or less everyone to prove he's a warrior after always being treated as a failure back home, this leads him to but heads with alliance a lot, but never anything like a mana bomb on theramore -.- the activision take over and desire for a "badguy" faction didn't help things, like the cata total old world revamp that wasn't even meant to be in cata it was meant to be smaler scale and part of wrath as a big patch, its why some quests you have garosh being evil and others honorable and fair if rash -.-
also blizzards have actually explained why chronicles 4 has wrong info and its "the chronicles books are from the perspectives of people who were told wrong info or made their own judgments" in other words they are trying to use the old cliché of "unreliable narrator" to try and get past plot holes and retcon mistakes etc. also known as lazy writing -.-
27:50 Dunno, seems like a cop out to say "Oh well the Alliance is a shiny beacon of goodness and morality, and writing good guys is boring. The Horde though, it's easy to make them the bad guys, so that's why they always are" I mean, we have Garithos as an example that the Alliance has some really nasty assholes in the ranks, add more people like him. Probably others but even this far after Warcraft 3 he stands out in my mind. Granted I played Horde so I might be biased, but it seems like it's always the Horde as the bad guys and that's just lazy storytelling.
Some of the worst characters are members of the human race in wow such as Stalvan Mistmantle or even the son of Mograine. Heck look at what Arugal did and Kel’Thuzad before he turned undead. An entire expansion was based on a human prince that purged a city and killed his own father. I don’t think there’s entirely a good or bad side, there’s members of each faction that are nonsensical but usually it’s our job to bonk em and send em to jail.
Writer's who cant write morally good characters are just not being imaginative enough. Great writers have written for Superman for a century and have given us some of the best stories ever. There is hard stories to be told when you try to always be the good guy. Not to mention, a faction can represent moral good, but that doesn't mean the faction and people in it are always good. That some boring black and white stuff.
theyre so bad at creating the lore, there are so many miss opportunities which is stupid. Like how the horde didn't use the assassination attempt on Sylvanas's life in Legion was not use as the reason for the war in BFA but horde just went evil for plot & burn down the burn. Cows should never had gotten druid; Druide should had been Alliance only with the Night Elves & Shaman (shammy just staying in leather) should had been the counter to Druid; for the paladin thing it should had been champion for the horde as the counter to the paladin. Horde should had gotten Goblin as their 4th race and with the Forest Trolls in ZA as the horde capital in Eastern kingdom. The Garrosh thing is also bad Blizz work and lack of understanding of their own lore; and doing sht just for plot purposes but like many of wow's stuff its fk up and makes no sense.
![The Story of Antorus, the Burning Throne [Lore]](/img/n.gif)
What addin has those markers? Is it a Handynotes extension or something?
Universal Explorer the addon is called!
ALSO does it work for EVERY zone or just the old world??
@@HarpoonTheMoon every zone!
Your reactions been awesome, we're def doing more of these!
I like to imagine Nobbel is actually voicing Invincible who is giving the grande tour to Zovaall
I didn’t get this at first but after watching it for a few minutes I realized what you meant and it is pure gold. ❤
what do you mean, i can see him
Glad you finally came around doing this. would like a playthrough of every zone with your comments ontop of it but this is great! keep it up!
I like the lore because they find so many ways to make you ask questions they'll never answer. Like. Just *what* are dragons? They can get pretty eldritch/lovecraft. Remember Deathwing's final boss fight? 100% tentacle increase over the course of the fight.
yessssss this is so awesome and utterly perfect for someone like me. Never had the time to sink into WoW but always loved the lore since Orcs & Humans came out. This is huge, Nobbel. Thank you.
The hat tho! I love it. Nobbel keeps me coming back!
I've been following you for so long and I'm still happy every time there's a new upload to play in the background while I'm chilling! Thanks for the Kalimdor tour!
This is a great concept for a lore video! Exploring zones on a new toon and discussing the lore while doing so is very enjoyable, at least for me :D.
Ngl, the Bronze Dragon quests in DF make me think along the lines as that Chromie has pushed Nozdormu along his path to become Moruzond. He is now agreeable with the Infinites & believes that sometimes things can be changed. It starts out small, it's just one more time, and then..
Personal theory about the "one" timeline is that it's the one were the Titans win. Like Nozdormu, Aman'Thul could have possibly seen his end and like Moruzond, he decided to change it. One could argue that the madness end that Moruzond was going to give us is better than what the Titans do. I mean would you like to be "Ordered" to basically be machine like, how the Earthern were originally, just following their Edicts, no emotions, no friends. no free will.🤷♂
I literally screamed out a YEAH! when I saw the title and the lenght of the video!
Haven't even started this video, already liked it and I will love it!
Would love this in podcast format, to listen to on long rides/travelling
Got you! open.spotify.com/show/29ehRNNW9Zz9hkFWBwONO8?si=cbca3dc3b4ee4341&nd=1
awesome idea, make it a series! there is so much lore in WoW, a huge shame new players have no way to experience it the way all other games do it: by playing the game
Thanks for video I learned quite a bit more of the lore I for sure didn’t know also You should do a lore on priory of the sacred flame I think it’s such a cool topic
There was a Demon Hunter in Vanilla, out in Azshara on an island he had a pet Felhound.
Also Nobbel you should watch Xaxxas' video on Gallywix being a Dreadlord it's great & I think you'd enjoy it. Kind works too.
Very abrupt ending, but it was really nostalgic hearing about the cata and mop story stuff again
I cannot with that hat my friend of 10yrs of lore. Keep it going ! Cheers
Love this kind of video, perfect for litsening to at work :)
ppllllsss do more of these i LOVE YOUR lore vids
I took an Earthen from 10 to 70 by just getting exploration XP. ... Kinda sucked that I was undergeared, but it was a lovely way to see Azeroth.
Also, um, that hat really is quite silly. I won't judge you, though.
"TheJailor" as a name is available on my realm. It was on day 1 of TWW & still is. I am fighting the urge lol
A wow leveling series? Sweet content for a decade.
loved this
I love this video. Can listen to you talk lore all day. Wil you take sovaal through the Eastern kingdoms too?
Loved this!
One thing that has been assured to me through this is. The dragons left to their own devices are mediocre at best at protecting the planet and garrosh based Af.
That was great.
52:24 did you mean snorlaxx? lovely video as always =)
55:56 "and for cairne and his son baine, who was kidnapped by the centaur, ... humm ... life was pretty good for a while" 😆
I do enjoy your videos :) and that’s a very nice hat!
I really like these
Love this!
I love it!!!
So, Desolace used to be a lush forest zone like Ashenvale. Then Theradraz woke up and she did the big succ causing the earth to become a Desolate zone
Goede video maat
The Elves of Dire Maul didn't feed on each other they instead were like "Well this is getting taxing kill the expendable to balance it out.."
As for the War of the Thorns it's Because Saurfang made MAlfurion vulnerable and she was like "Good, ggod. now kill him." and burnt Teldrassil when he refused to demoralize the Night Elve since she didn't have a dead MAlfurion to do that.
And the new tree is Amirdrassil
Lovin it! >:)
I also dream about a world tour, but do not know as much lore about all the places, save but some memories 🎉
Noble do you also think like me at we will se durotar turn into a jungle if the world gets a rewamp? I mean in the orc heritage quest line the kinda point that way 😊
Ive had to play trough WC3 back then, forced to kill Daelyn, Jaina gave up on family in the name of peace. It was an amazing story but it was also amazingly sad. Daughter of the Sea, i am still listening to this day to this masterpiece, made me hope, THIS TIME Jaina is going to strike back. For Theramore, for Southshore, for Gilneas, for Teldrassil, FOR THE ALLIANCE!!!
And we still did not retake Lordaeron post 4th war... biggest L lore wise retail wow did and it will always be for me. So many people dead and we are THERE, and we just pick up and leave??? LBlizzard... L
"OH SHIT, EGYPT! Sick."
Garrosh is basically Putin and Thrall is Boris Yeltsin/Gorbachev.
Mario and Luigi were in the guard towers in Un'Goro Crater
Was this done on Twitch? I can't find a vod for it.:Edit: Found it is in fact on Twitch. Just actually looked this time....
Yus www.twitch.tv/videos/2253422498
I always wondered why Maiev didnt stay with Illidan at the end of Legion
the whole garosh being evil from the beginning is super dumb retconning just to try and make horde the "badguys"
when you meet him in outland he's super down on himself thinks his dad is a tarator who cursed the orcs to war and was treated rather badly by the orcs of outland because well his dad did doom the orcs, we find him introduce him to thral who takes him under his wing shows him how his father saved their entire race with honour
he's then kind of left under the care of saurfang and he's overly eager to fight more or less everyone to prove he's a warrior after always being treated as a failure back home, this leads him to but heads with alliance a lot, but never anything like a mana bomb on theramore -.-
the activision take over and desire for a "badguy" faction didn't help things, like the cata total old world revamp that wasn't even meant to be in cata it was meant to be smaler scale and part of wrath as a big patch, its why some quests you have garosh being evil and others honorable and fair if rash -.-
also blizzards have actually explained why chronicles 4 has wrong info and its "the chronicles books are from the perspectives of people who were told wrong info or made their own judgments" in other words they are trying to use the old cliché of "unreliable narrator" to try and get past plot holes and retcon mistakes etc. also known as lazy writing -.-
All you going to do the story of silithius
26:53
You have been warned
Ewww Zovaal in kalimdor I hope quillboar will quickly take care of that bald sorry excuse of a main villain
ayo
Can't that guy ferelas
27:50 Dunno, seems like a cop out to say "Oh well the Alliance is a shiny beacon of goodness and morality, and writing good guys is boring. The Horde though, it's easy to make them the bad guys, so that's why they always are" I mean, we have Garithos as an example that the Alliance has some really nasty assholes in the ranks, add more people like him. Probably others but even this far after Warcraft 3 he stands out in my mind. Granted I played Horde so I might be biased, but it seems like it's always the Horde as the bad guys and that's just lazy storytelling.
*Is immediately invested and wants to do this herself for a different MMO- Wizard101.*
alliance are the good guys, horde are the bad guys. just deal with it already.
Some of the worst characters are members of the human race in wow such as Stalvan Mistmantle or even the son of Mograine.
Heck look at what Arugal did and Kel’Thuzad before he turned undead. An entire expansion was based on a human prince that purged a city and killed his own father. I don’t think there’s entirely a good or bad side, there’s members of each faction that are nonsensical but usually it’s our job to bonk em and send em to jail.
Writer's who cant write morally good characters are just not being imaginative enough. Great writers have written for Superman for a century and have given us some of the best stories ever. There is hard stories to be told when you try to always be the good guy. Not to mention, a faction can represent moral good, but that doesn't mean the faction and people in it are always good. That some boring black and white stuff.
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Why are you bald?
theyre so bad at creating the lore, there are so many miss opportunities which is stupid. Like how the horde didn't use the assassination attempt on Sylvanas's life in Legion was not use as the reason for the war in BFA but horde just went evil for plot & burn down the burn.
Cows should never had gotten druid; Druide should had been Alliance only with the Night Elves & Shaman (shammy just staying in leather) should had been the counter to Druid; for the paladin thing it should had been champion for the horde as the counter to the paladin.
Horde should had gotten Goblin as their 4th race and with the Forest Trolls in ZA as the horde capital in Eastern kingdom.
The Garrosh thing is also bad Blizz work and lack of understanding of their own lore; and doing sht just for plot purposes but like many of wow's stuff its fk up and makes no sense.
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