We had one week of sunshine in the netherlands and we call it summer, but was nice! Year already halfway done. Onwards to Chronicles volume 4, war within release and working on a persona special project. More revealed soon tm
if you love reading and you read the warcraft books than you forgot sometimes what the weather outside is. Live Aswell in the Netherlands and today it was twenty-two degrease and what did i the hole day gaming and watching some of you videos from your channel as always. :)
I really hate how they compressed Classic-Cataclysm into 3 years. I think the timeline should have just reflected the real time release of the expansions.
Blizzard overall had this issue of compressing what seems like a gigantic amount of events in a ridiculously short amount of time. The entirety of original Starcraft + BroodWar happened in 1.5 years, and all the action of Wings of Liberty + Heart of the Swarm was like 8 months
Literally just finished your video from four years ago about the story of warcraft. Started looking for an updated version that included what happened after BFA. Then you uploaded this! The timing was excellent.
Other than being the predecessors to the elves, trolls were not very competitive out there, yeah. Stuck to their guns and watched the elves shove themselves.
Love you brother, hope you enjoy that summer weather as well. Despite me not playing WoW for ages, I still come back to your channel whenever you release a video and I now associate your voice with WoW lore haha
Shadowlands literally has the most important plot points in the last 4 expansions and its crucial to tww storytelling. You not liking it doesnt mesn others should never hear of it.
15:05 I knew Grom was older than Thrall, but i never thought Garrosh was older as well. Grom was the older-brother figure to Thrall, and then Thrall was a older brother/uncle figure to Garrosh.
Your vids are fantastic! And I really enjoy your sarcasm and side comments. Are there any “normal” characters/farmers left on Azeroth after all the wars?
They've given glimpses. Like in shadowlands you do a quest that puts you into the perspective of just a humble guy in lakeshire when the scourge comes. They never do enough of it though. Only when it has to do with scourge for some reason. Cus there's quests like that in Northrend too.
Did I miss the portion of the global Troll Empire (Zul/Ama/etc.) or the Mogu rule of Pandora? Pretty sure that was around the same time as the Well/Sundering/WotA time.
Hard to imagine that if you kept your original characters from classic that he/she/it/they would be 42 years old. That makes for some good RP. Does it ever mention how old some of the primary races on WoW live? Because if your character is 20 years old when created, then they would be 62 now. It is fun to think about.
It’s crazy that the twisting nether transcends time but at the same time the legion has a timeline where they won the war of the acients with illidan joining the legion and then killing malfurion, so many questions now, like if the legion has won why did everything in legion happen???
Watching this and then seeing where MoP falls in and with Remix going on right now, just makes me like that expansion and my Pandaren Monk main even more. All the lore and culture and everything Pandaria offers is amazing, to me anyway and how some of its story ties into TWW with the titan facilities and such. I'm once again very invested into WoW.
Like I get the question of what farmers would think looking up and seeing a god humping the planet. But I feel like that leads to a much more massive question, how are there still any farmers left? With all the stuff that has attacked the world and the different prepatch events how would a regular farmer still exist.
I’m surprised that after everything that’s happened, the citizens of Azeroth haven’t largely thrown up their hands and said “oh, screw it. Just let this world end already.”
The gravity alone of another massive object next to the planet should probably shake the surface to pieces. Earthquakes, Tsunamis, and eruptions. Almost like a second cataclysm....
@@reffa2858which is heavily included in the plot of BFA when azerite starts pouring out all over the world. Plus, deathwing was just flying around everywhere. Deathwing wasn't so local. Plus, if you pay attention, you know it's not likely sargeras really wants to kill azeroth.
I want to know where that animation with Kel'thuzad is from! (Thanks for this though, I've been trying to figure out what year TWW starts in, and though this doesn't cover THAT...at least this is a nice, up to date, quick reference for the timeline!)
Thanks for the short summary of all WC history. Will you upload War Within lore complete in a chronological order with only cinematics and in-game cutscenes?
I'm sure he will cover all new content as it comes out, as he has for years and years. If you're looking for something like "The War Within: The Movie" or whatever, this isn't the right channel though. Nobbel covers all the details.
@@mokarokas-1727 I used to follow Athelarious for that. But he started spamming same scenes in 10s of different videos and he messed up the chronological orders as well. Nobbels seemed more stable.
Speaking of Argus humping the planet, I love the intro quest line for joining the tree covenant. The forest folk call BS when they give the history of azroth. Wait a dude stabbed the planet? Where did he get enough metal for a sword to do that? Did he smelt a planet to destroy another planet?
I don't play WOW anymore, not by choice, but of necessity. The addiction is too strong, but I really miss the lore and stories. I subscribed to Nobbel just so i can get refreshers and tidbits of stories I won't be able to experience anymore. Are there any other people i can follow that tell/re-enact the plots of the lore?
If I started to play WoW in Vanilla. How old would my character be? If my character at Level 1 starting out was 18 maybe, then that would make 17 years since Vanilla, so my character would be 35. What do you think?
Timeline from year 0 Is stunning, I mean i didn't realize that the story was in only 40 years. Instead the Meaning of all the Lore from 200.000 year before the dark portal Is Clear: Is All Zooval Plan ...sigh.
How is it muddy? The red dark portal is connected to 35 years in the past of the draenor of an alternate reality. It's a timeline that was specifically chosen due to It's similarities to our own, but different in all the right ways.
Maybe its a stupid questen but how can Alternate Dreanor have a Blackrock Clan when they where not part of the Orcs that originally invaded Azeroth? they dont know what blackrock mountain is when we first visit
Hope you enjoyed the summer, right back to rain and cold... not that i'm complaining. Idk what it's like on the other side of the North Sea but in England we are not fuckin prepared for this heat and anything above 25 is unbearable.
So the deal is that it isn't Medivh who's impossibly old, but his mother is. She didn't want to pass on her Guardian powers and magically extended her life instead.
The fact that he had to point out that deathwing caused the shattering and not the sundering worries me... Are there people really that inadequate at reading? xD
Hey man, tuning back in after not watching you for a bit. Your accent is really cool but you were very hard to understand before. I just want to say you sound great these days. Never lose that accent- makes you YOU. But a massive improvement in clarity
When you think about it just the major events that happen in just vanilla, there is no way that it passed only a year like cmon blizz. Thats just dumb...
Blizz really needs to hire you and others like you to keep track of their lore and thump them over the head when they're being dumb and contradicting what's already in the game. I'm still surprised that after Shadowlands there's this time skip and....everything is ok. They were building things up like Turyalion (sp?) was gonna go all religious zealot while holding the throne. Pretty sure they were swearing that we'd get a chance to see the Alliance be the bad guys instead of it always being the Horde...but guess that isn't happening.
Appreciate the video. I have to admit though that the entire Warcraft lore seems wholesale derivative af anything and everything fantasy. Even the most cringe aspects, Kung Fu Pandas, were an outright steal from the popular movies at the time.
Did you have this same opinion in TBC? Because if not, that's an odd take. If so, I get it. It's just really weird that TBC had the most blatant and profound retcons of any expansion, yet people give it a pass. It's very very odd.
So Anduin's been gone for almost a decade? Wasn't he like 15 when he ascended to the throne? So now he's 30 and acting like a teenager combined with a midlife crisis-suffering 45 year old?
Don't get me wrong - your video is amazing - but OH MY GOD is world of warcraft dead, buried, re-animated as a shambling corpse and wondering around as a facimilie of WoW 🤣🤣🤣
I cant help but feel like we dont NEED to have this ongoing main story with main characters...I miss the simplicity of questing and exploring just to quest and explore, nothing major behind it. And sick of being called "Champion" all the time. Like why is lil ol' me involved in every world shattering event and the hope of the worlds survival rests on my shoulders? Yawn. WoW is trying way too hard to make players feel like a special star and give so much importance to certain NPC's ALL the time that its lost touch with the simplicity of just being in the world. I personally dislike that EVER expansion feels the need to connect to the previous one. Its just trying way too stinkin hard.
I still never forgive how blizz ruined the lore overall with the old gods. Never going to play or support their products again after that. P-server vanilla wow for me only.
The way this guy speaks is hard to understand he does too many rolling r's and sounds like he's trying to artistically speak but it's kind of counter productive
![The Story of Hakkar the Soulflayer [Lore]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/vdigxf0HPTI/mqdefault.jpg)
![The Story of Dragonflight - Full Version [Lore]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Aipy19Xt45U/mqdefault.jpg)
This guy cramed the entire Warcraft lore in 21 minutes. Respect!
I mean if anyone could achieve that it would be Nobbel
Without rushing like crazy, like one of the most popular Lore videos around.
For making a lot of mistakes, yeah you could say that.
What mistakes? @@grempelstubbs2842
No he didnt, to a new player he skipped explaining tons of things that i didnt understand the reference for, so this is not a full lore in 21 minutes
We had one week of sunshine in the netherlands and we call it summer, but was nice! Year already halfway done. Onwards to Chronicles volume 4, war within release and working on a persona special project. More revealed soon tm
May the eternal sun shine upon thee Nobs.
if you love reading and you read the warcraft books than you forgot sometimes what the weather outside is. Live Aswell in the Netherlands and today it was twenty-two degrease and what did i the hole day gaming and watching some of you videos from your channel as always. :)
Oh snap you're dutch? You should a warcraft meetup!
I really hate how they compressed Classic-Cataclysm into 3 years. I think the timeline should have just reflected the real time release of the expansions.
Yes this! Let’s the amount of years between the expansions be the timeline
Wrath was the last meaningful “classic”. It doesn't really matter what they do with the next expansions.
Since the game is much simpler than retail people would get bored in a heartbeat with your suggestion. Imo, they're right for going fast
Blizzard overall had this issue of compressing what seems like a gigantic amount of events in a ridiculously short amount of time. The entirety of original Starcraft + BroodWar happened in 1.5 years, and all the action of Wings of Liberty + Heart of the Swarm was like 8 months
Literally just finished your video from four years ago about the story of warcraft. Started looking for an updated version that included what happened after BFA. Then you uploaded this! The timing was excellent.
The sundering, the shattering, and the stabbing
The Night Elves "just have to be the first at everything".
Meanwhile, the Trolls all over Azeroth: "...okay :("
Other than being the predecessors to the elves, trolls were not very competitive out there, yeah. Stuck to their guns and watched the elves shove themselves.
Dragons: Are we a joke to you?
@@sanstheskeleton8104 yes
The night elves are trolls
Love you brother, hope you enjoy that summer weather as well. Despite me not playing WoW for ages, I still come back to your channel whenever you release a video and I now associate your voice with WoW lore haha
I was secretly hoping you'd jump right from BfA to Dragonflight, glossing over the expansion that shall not be named
The expansion is a lil too important to the lore to simply be forgotten about
The side effect nightmare from Noggenfogger's Elixir?
Shadowlands literally has the most important plot points in the last 4 expansions and its crucial to tww storytelling. You not liking it doesnt mesn others should never hear of it.
Thank you for rolling the R's. It is very important for Storytelling
15:05
I knew Grom was older than Thrall, but i never thought Garrosh was older as well.
Grom was the older-brother figure to Thrall, and then Thrall was a older brother/uncle figure to Garrosh.
Thx Nobel your videos are awesome appreciate your time fam!!!
This is an entirely new perspective on Warcraft lore for me, thanks for the video!
Anyone remember the official timeline they used to had on the WoW website? I basically memorized it, lol. And then Metzen retconned it for BC!
Greaaaat short recap of the story so far - I am a returning player and needed this sort of recap :D
Cheers !
Your vids are fantastic! And I really enjoy your sarcasm and side comments. Are there any “normal” characters/farmers left on Azeroth after all the wars?
I love how Nobbel also acknowledges that for how weird things are on Azeroth, we never get to see any of it from the avg. joe perspective :(
They've given glimpses. Like in shadowlands you do a quest that puts you into the perspective of just a humble guy in lakeshire when the scourge comes. They never do enough of it though. Only when it has to do with scourge for some reason. Cus there's quests like that in Northrend too.
One day i might finish my Chronicles add-on for wow, that in-game timeline feature would really be great
props for making it 20 minutes
Love the channel keep up the grind 🤙
Yeah... was freaking hot few days ago in the netherlands... great video like always Nobel
15:02 Grom was first introduced in Warcraft II: Beyond the Dark Portal as the leader of the Warsong Clan.
Ow sorry, I meant he met garrosh during TBC. Grom he met during...Lord of the clans book if i remember right
@@Nobbel87 Oh wait, I mishead "he" as "we"
I'm so accustomed to your video intros that I say "heeello everyonnnnneeee" at the same time. 😂😂😂
Awesome work! Good video!
Did I miss the portion of the global Troll Empire (Zul/Ama/etc.) or the Mogu rule of Pandora? Pretty sure that was around the same time as the Well/Sundering/WotA time.
Those were a couple thousand years before the Sundering.
Pandaria*
I wonder if Azeroth woke up after the dark portal opened in year 0. Thats why so many things have happened in such a short amount of time?
Hard to imagine that if you kept your original characters from classic that he/she/it/they would be 42 years old. That makes for some good RP. Does it ever mention how old some of the primary races on WoW live? Because if your character is 20 years old when created, then they would be 62 now. It is fun to think about.
It’s crazy that the twisting nether transcends time but at the same time the legion has a timeline where they won the war of the acients with illidan joining the legion and then killing malfurion, so many questions now, like if the legion has won why did everything in legion happen???
badass video as always Nobbel!
Watching this and then seeing where MoP falls in and with Remix going on right now, just makes me like that expansion and my Pandaren Monk main even more. All the lore and culture and everything Pandaria offers is amazing, to me anyway and how some of its story ties into TWW with the titan facilities and such. I'm once again very invested into WoW.
Like I get the question of what farmers would think looking up and seeing a god humping the planet.
But I feel like that leads to a much more massive question, how are there still any farmers left?
With all the stuff that has attacked the world and the different prepatch events how would a regular farmer still exist.
I’m surprised that after everything that’s happened, the citizens of Azeroth haven’t largely thrown up their hands and said “oh, screw it. Just let this world end already.”
The gravity alone of another massive object next to the planet should probably shake the surface to pieces. Earthquakes, Tsunamis, and eruptions. Almost like a second cataclysm....
@@reffa2858which is heavily included in the plot of BFA when azerite starts pouring out all over the world. Plus, deathwing was just flying around everywhere. Deathwing wasn't so local. Plus, if you pay attention, you know it's not likely sargeras really wants to kill azeroth.
I want to know where that animation with Kel'thuzad is from! (Thanks for this though, I've been trying to figure out what year TWW starts in, and though this doesn't cover THAT...at least this is a nice, up to date, quick reference for the timeline!)
Do you mean the animated part? Its from Heroes of the Storm Call of Kelthuzad Trailer IIRC
Another banger from Lorewalker Nobbel, G.O.A.T. of Azeroth
Thanks for the short summary of all WC history. Will you upload War Within lore complete in a chronological order with only cinematics and in-game cutscenes?
I'm sure he will cover all new content as it comes out, as he has for years and years. If you're looking for something like "The War Within: The Movie" or whatever, this isn't the right channel though. Nobbel covers all the details.
@@mokarokas-1727 I used to follow Athelarious for that. But he started spamming same scenes in 10s of different videos and he messed up the chronological orders as well. Nobbels seemed more stable.
@@OmerSaidtr I hate what that guy does. Nobbel won't disappoint you! =)
@@mokarokas-1727 Cool! Good to hear! :)
".. some were not ready to hug a tree.." i love nobbel 😂
Roleplayers trying to make their character lore make sense that they are a veteran of multiple wars but are somehow not a crippled old man.
Wizard did it
@TehPwnographer if by wizard you mean khadgar he even stated he knows he's getting too old and won't be of much use soon
damn poor Azeroth. Homegirl done been thru it
Speaking of Argus humping the planet, I love the intro quest line for joining the tree covenant. The forest folk call BS when they give the history of azroth. Wait a dude stabbed the planet? Where did he get enough metal for a sword to do that? Did he smelt a planet to destroy another planet?
Anyone watch the whole thing waiting for when he would truncate it to TOOTDP? (Toodypee)
Nobbel is the OG, always reliable!
Whag is the anime like at 14:08. ?
heroes of the storm kel'thzuad trailer
what is/are a good book(s) for warcraft history? Is Chronicles a "must read" for lore lovers? Or some other book series?
I also like to think about what the 'normal' residents of Azeroth are thinking when they see these crazy things happen.
Amazing.
I don't play WOW anymore, not by choice, but of necessity. The addiction is too strong, but I really miss the lore and stories. I subscribed to Nobbel just so i can get refreshers and tidbits of stories I won't be able to experience anymore. Are there any other people i can follow that tell/re-enact the plots of the lore?
If I started to play WoW in Vanilla. How old would my character be? If my character at Level 1 starting out was 18 maybe, then that would make 17 years since Vanilla, so my character would be 35. What do you think?
"... the dumbest thing they've ever come up with, and that's saying something" 🤣🤣🤣
When does the video start
Timeline from year 0 Is stunning, I mean i didn't realize that the story was in only 40 years. Instead the Meaning of all the Lore from 200.000 year before the dark portal Is Clear: Is All Zooval Plan ...sigh.
So the Great Beyond and Twisted Nether are separate things?
Yes, as far as I know. The Great Beyond = space. Twisting Nether = realm of disorder/fel.
05:58 you mean Scythe, not a scepter, they're even called Druids of the Scythe
How is it muddy? The red dark portal is connected to 35 years in the past of the draenor of an alternate reality.
It's a timeline that was specifically chosen due to It's similarities to our own, but different in all the right ways.
Wait how old is Medivh supposed to be? 800+ years old?
Isn't the war of the Shifting sands supposed to be around 1000 years before the dark portal?
Yeah 975 years before TDP. I say it right but made a small editing mistake it seems damn it
great content my chap
Save for later helps me sleep
Ay I see a mid summer bonfire in the eversong Forrest
I thought of it
I searched it
And he uploaded it a few hours ago
How? (Is he reading my mind)
I dont understand? How did only a few years passed from classic to legion and anduin grew like 15 years
Maybe its a stupid questen but how can Alternate Dreanor have a Blackrock Clan when they where not part of the Orcs that originally invaded Azeroth? they dont know what blackrock mountain is when we first visit
Damn, Malfurion is old.
Hope you enjoyed the summer, right back to rain and cold... not that i'm complaining. Idk what it's like on the other side of the North Sea but in England we are not fuckin prepared for this heat and anything above 25 is unbearable.
TLDR : The opening of the dark portal
Best video yet
Soo... First guardian, appointed 2610 years BDP, Corrupted Medivh appointed/born 830 BDP...
Who was the first guardian? Medivh is older than Muradin?
Alodi first guardian. Aegwynn vs Sargeras/corrupted Aegwynn 830. 45 bdp = birth of medivh
So the deal is that it isn't Medivh who's impossibly old, but his mother is. She didn't want to pass on her Guardian powers and magically extended her life instead.
The fact that he had to point out that deathwing caused the shattering and not the sundering worries me... Are there people really that inadequate at reading? xD
Amazing!
Hey man, tuning back in after not watching you for a bit.
Your accent is really cool but you were very hard to understand before. I just want to say you sound great these days.
Never lose that accent- makes you YOU.
But a massive improvement in clarity
I need a xal'atath timeline
When you think about it just the major events that happen in just vanilla, there is no way that it passed only a year like cmon blizz. Thats just dumb...
Blizz really needs to hire you and others like you to keep track of their lore and thump them over the head when they're being dumb and contradicting what's already in the game. I'm still surprised that after Shadowlands there's this time skip and....everything is ok. They were building things up like Turyalion (sp?) was gonna go all religious zealot while holding the throne. Pretty sure they were swearing that we'd get a chance to see the Alliance be the bad guys instead of it always being the Horde...but guess that isn't happening.
Is the commentary AI or sped up? It's so choppy.
I tought the Battle After amirdrassil and the dragonflight Epilog has a 10 year time gap 🤔
The Goat!
finally a decent video from you
So Anduin went from 8yo to 20 in 3 years? Weird.
So basicly everything bad that has happend are the fault of the elfs
So much shit was going on in only ~20 years :D
Why your accent is getting thicker and thicker over the years?
I got 6 mins in and then that tongue on auto fire on the R's just had me stopped sorry
it is time for WarCraft IV blizzard
16:53 Captions xD
The troll wars
Appreciate the video.
I have to admit though that the entire Warcraft lore seems wholesale derivative af anything and everything fantasy. Even the most cringe aspects, Kung Fu Pandas, were an outright steal from the popular movies at the time.
Man Auntie Jaina is getting really old
Oh, dear...
Hello
Wait what, Garrosh is older than Thrall?! Explain yourself lol
Garrosh was of fighting age was it not for his redpox illness, Thrall was a baby around the time of the dark portal/shut down
The problem with those videos, no matter how well they are made, they age like milk. Because Blizzard's middlename should be "Retcon".
Did you have this same opinion in TBC? Because if not, that's an odd take. If so, I get it. It's just really weird that TBC had the most blatant and profound retcons of any expansion, yet people give it a pass. It's very very odd.
So Anduin's been gone for almost a decade? Wasn't he like 15 when he ascended to the throne? So now he's 30 and acting like a teenager combined with a midlife crisis-suffering 45 year old?
After War Within...Revenge of the Burning Legion.
No. The Legion is dead. Also, It's *The War Within,* not "War Within", that's not a thing.
Don't get me wrong - your video is amazing - but OH MY GOD is world of warcraft dead, buried, re-animated as a shambling corpse and wondering around as a facimilie of WoW 🤣🤣🤣
I cant help but feel like we dont NEED to have this ongoing main story with main characters...I miss the simplicity of questing and exploring just to quest and explore, nothing major behind it. And sick of being called "Champion" all the time. Like why is lil ol' me involved in every world shattering event and the hope of the worlds survival rests on my shoulders? Yawn. WoW is trying way too hard to make players feel like a special star and give so much importance to certain NPC's ALL the time that its lost touch with the simplicity of just being in the world. I personally dislike that EVER expansion feels the need to connect to the previous one. Its just trying way too stinkin hard.
@16:37 stolen from Warhammer too for example, Blizzard are big fans of Warhammer (Starcraft might be a stolen idea, too xD)
the that was the dumbest thing they ever done and that is saying something is savage xDD
Good clip but i need a translator to understand anything you're saying. What language is that?
so early. let's goooooo
Some games should just end and not kept alive by bullshit.
:KD
I still never forgive how blizz ruined the lore overall with the old gods. Never going to play or support their products again after that. P-server vanilla wow for me only.
The way this guy speaks is hard to understand he does too many rolling r's and sounds like he's trying to artistically speak but it's kind of counter productive