The Story of Antorus, the Burning Throne [Lore]

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  • @ihavesomethingstosay3099
    @ihavesomethingstosay3099 6 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    My main problem with all of this is: If Sargeras can become a cloud and move in space, then stab planets why did Sargeras even bothered with opening portal with Well of Eternity 10000 years ago?
    My explanation is: He was busy questing and just finished Universal Pathfinder achievement so he can now use his cloud mount to fly between planets. I hope this explanation is enough for us all lore followers. Enjoy...

    • @ogikay7056
      @ogikay7056 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      True

    • @intzbk1
      @intzbk1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      He wanted to join his buddies Parallax and Galactus. Traveling as a big cloud is easier and makes for a great villain.

    • @JoseHernandez-em3rp
      @JoseHernandez-em3rp 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Jokes aside, he was too fat to be summoned using warlock ritual of summoning so his raid team told him to run his ass to the raid or be kicked

    • @ihavesomethingstosay3099
      @ihavesomethingstosay3099 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Illidan used legion tech to tear sky and open portal between Azeroth and Argus. Might new legion tech. But as soon as Sargeras have access Sargerite Stone or whatever its name he could tear that rift himself, use his favourite mount and do whatever he wants to Azeroth.

    • @TimeOfSin
      @TimeOfSin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sargaras didn't know the exact position of Azaroth in the Twisting Nether, but then Illidan used the Sargarite Keystone to open a portal massive enough to fit Sargaras and linked it with a planet in the heart of Legion territory.

  • @brya9681
    @brya9681 6 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    Velen somehow being a better older brother to Illidan than Malfurion "NOOO" Stormrage

  • @Grindley08
    @Grindley08 6 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    The best part about legion wasn't reuniting with Alleria and turelyon, it was the respect and friendship that grew between illidan and velen... It was always light vs dark between them and at the very end they both saw the same vision and I love that, also proving how strong Illidan actually is I'm so glad that "redemption" since black temple was done in such a cool way, with the nod to maiev and illidan " the hunter is nothing without the hunt" to " the hunter is nothing without his prey" lore wise this expansion was so full and added such a great end to what originally was the story of warcraft,

    • @longhairhiggins
      @longhairhiggins 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought it was the way that they brought back Illidan and didn't have him interact or encounter Malfurion or Tyrande one time except for a letter after it all ended.

  • @PartyWipeGames
    @PartyWipeGames 6 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    Malfurion's accomplishments in Legion: Gets captured
    Illidians contributions in Legion: Saved entire planet countless times.
    The balls on this man for still throwing shade at Illidan for all he's done, time and again. Tyrande too

    • @Andyzeeb
      @Andyzeeb 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Malfurion sort of also held back the corruption of the Nightmare so it didn't spread, along with healing the corrupted Cenarius.
      And if people would just try and see things in a broader perspective, they might understand why Malfurion and Tyrande have that hard time forgiving him.
      Just try imagine yourself you had your whole family slain by a man, but he had to do so to save his the country he loved. Is that something you would forgive?

    • @Robin_Coffins
      @Robin_Coffins 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Go read some Lore on Illidan prior to this expansion, you may have empathy for Tyrande and Malfurion.

    • @JacksonJinn
      @JacksonJinn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Mm. Nah. Malfurion still feels a bit like every accusation of "green jesus" Thrall got back in the day ramped up further, while Tyrande has devolved into a bitchy petty elitist jerk.

    • @JacksonJinn
      @JacksonJinn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Not to mention I've never really seen what the hell Cenarius saw in Malfurion over Illidan in the first place.
      Humility? Furion's got the biggest goddamn ego this side of Kael'thas. "He IS nature, he IS balance. And his judgement is final."
      Wisdom? Fails to comprehend that without Illidan doing what needed to be done they were literally all going to die. If MF had better ideas, he sure as hell never shared them.
      Compassion? After literally everyone points out straight up that Illidan has been doing nothing but help (both in WC3 and Legion) he STILL can't mend bridges with Illidan. Also never has it occur to him that MAYBE rubbing in his brother's face he's sleeping with Tyrande isn't the smartest or noblest call.
      And literally *all* of Malfurion's feats and accomplishments are things gifted to him, whether by title or by Cenarius and the druidic powers, which could have gone to Illidan instead.
      Either Cenarius didn't realize putting one brother above the other would be a self-fulfilling prophecy (mostly) or he's the worst judge of character in this entire game.

    • @gabrieln4074
      @gabrieln4074 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Thralls a lil beech that cheated in his duel with Garrosh, but yeah Tyrande is a turd which is why her and Malfurion deserve each other, both see themselves as victims and superior at the same time. Illidan endured the hate/agony/imprisonment and did what was needed.

  • @Cruz474
    @Cruz474 6 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Dragon flaps his wings around=multiple zones devastated, the world forever scarred and changed.
    Titan god stabs the planet to the core with a giant fucking planet sized sword=one zone with a booboo

    • @izicial7469
      @izicial7469 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Didn't stab to the core.

    • @ogikay7056
      @ogikay7056 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Deathwing was the Earth Warder,he has dominiance over it.If Khazgoroth(that was the name i guess) hammered azeroth then you would have an shattered world

    • @dancingdroid
      @dancingdroid 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What makes it even funnier is that in the Chronicles of Warcraft book we learn that Sargeras can literally cut a planet in half with his sword. He is so ridiculously powerful that this makes absolutely no sense.

    • @bluborambitch
      @bluborambitch 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Audam it could be explained by the fact the pantheon are pulling sargeras away from Azeroth so he can’t give the planet a full swing and destroy it. I dunno just accept it

    • @LGatz-t7z
      @LGatz-t7z 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      bluborambitch his original sword is double in length this is shattered

  • @walleruss583
    @walleruss583 6 ปีที่แล้ว +347

    I’ve played a drinking game all throughout legion, every time Illidan says sacrifice I have a half can of cider. I’m now an alcoholic who needs therapy

    • @Pantx100
      @Pantx100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Checked Privilege what about khadgar and his cheeky "champions" phrases ;p?

    • @LazarusShade
      @LazarusShade 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Odyn dubs you WORTHY.

    • @jackbrown7977
      @jackbrown7977 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      What about the edge contest coming up between the Death Knights and Demon Hunters on who can sacrifice more? That will turn you from an alcoholic to a patient real quick.

    • @Miko-vi8vq
      @Miko-vi8vq 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Every time demon hunters say "I have sacrificed everything. What have you given?" I just want to rip off my ears. And since I play demon hunter... well I'm running out of ears

    • @petersander5802
      @petersander5802 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A lot of free time

  • @tigerstorm6622
    @tigerstorm6622 6 ปีที่แล้ว +316

    Fun fact: the only other character that lore wise has been able to kill us was Arthas.
    Now it’s Argus, so maybe characters with the letter A in the beginning their name can kills us

    • @doisel971
      @doisel971 6 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Alleria confirmed enemy

    • @k.bularga
      @k.bularga 6 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      TheAbysswalker Azshara mby?

    • @TheeFreakiishlyz
      @TheeFreakiishlyz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      L(ich king) A(rgu) G(????)

    • @tri1937
      @tri1937 6 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      hogger doesnt start with an A tho

    • @skirdus367
      @skirdus367 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Tigerstorm 6 archimonde didn't do shit

  • @istarilight
    @istarilight 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    "Demons would sooner pluck out their eyes than gaze upon it"
    Illidan : "Who could imagine of such sacrifice ? "
    I am not sure if his reply was sarcasm or not, but it sure felt like this. :P
    By the way, thank you Nobbel ! Once more you told us a great story about the game !

    • @beastmaster0934
      @beastmaster0934 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Knowing Illidan, it probably was.

  • @a_Lemming
    @a_Lemming 6 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    47:26
    1000 degree knife vs the planet

  • @richardmiklos
    @richardmiklos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Nice video. Thanks for pointing out the missing plot. I felt myself alone thinking about these obvious missing pieces of the story.

    • @sebastianhartung4407
      @sebastianhartung4407 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah it's not just a plot hole, but a whole bunch of them. hope blizzard publishes like a novel or whatever to close them

  • @bomba686ify
    @bomba686ify 6 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    Illidan: I'll stay back and make sure Sargeras never attempts to destroy Azeroth again
    Horde and Alliance: You know now that Sargeras is gone we could really go for a couple of rounds against each other, i'm sure this wouldn't empower the Old Gods.
    Illidan: You still doing that possession thing Sargeras? I think i understand your point now
    Sargeras: Wow it's as if i was trying to do something good, but everybody viewed me as a bad guy because i used a selfish method for a greater cause
    Illidan *staring at Sargeras*: Fusion?
    Sargeras: Fusion!

    • @erikho6936
      @erikho6936 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When the N'zoth returns both sides are fuck

    • @Snowmeister96
      @Snowmeister96 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Erik Ho Sylvanas will kill Nzoth singlehandedly and raise him as a dark (old god) ranger

    • @myself2noone
      @myself2noone 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Snowmeister96 Yeah that sounds about right.

    • @caboose.20
      @caboose.20 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Illidan: Dad?
      Sargeras: Son?

    • @preds43
      @preds43 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lord Illigeras fusion dance vs The Void Lords when?

  • @sushanalone
    @sushanalone 6 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    18:44, GJ Nobbel, you are surely guarding that side of the raid in case some nasties set up a surprise attack from there!

  • @Nooctae
    @Nooctae 6 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    One thing you might not know Nobbel, Varimathras has more dialogue if you kill The Coven of Shivarra before him. And that dialogue seems to be intended for BfA !

    • @sukruteker8324
      @sukruteker8324 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      can you explain it

    • @Nobbel87
      @Nobbel87  6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Was wondering where that dialogue was and those I asked didn't hear it, so wasn't sure it made it in. Thanks for the heads up!

    • @PliskinHK
      @PliskinHK 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Guess we'll never know what that dialogue is

    • @onyxthelegend
      @onyxthelegend 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      *Spoilers*
      Alliance - So your Alliance still endures. Longer than I expected, though she has already planted the seeds of its downfall. She is patient, that one
      When your thrones run red with betrayal... when your holy places burn and the shattered mask hangs above your hearth... only then you will know. And it will be too late.
      Horde - So, she found me at last. Sent her underlings to finish the job.
      Tell me, when she seized your throne of hides and bones, was your allegiance forced? No... I'd wager you surrendered it willingly... or were convinced you did. It matters not. You are blind to the darkness in your midst.

    • @erikho6936
      @erikho6936 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mickey Wallace
      Jaina and Sylvanass huh

  • @Scionofgreyhaven
    @Scionofgreyhaven 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I was just watched the cinematic and was like "Man I wish Nobbel or someone would explain to me what just happened since I just skipped through alot of the story and don't raid anymore" Thanks Nobbel, I didn't think the Burning Legion would be ended just like that, seems like it happened so fast

  • @turicaederynmab5343
    @turicaederynmab5343 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Compared to WoD Legion is just a fucking masterpiece. Haven't had this much fun since Wrath.

  • @TheGrimest
    @TheGrimest 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I kinda agree with talliesin in his video about the ending, I kinda like that Illidan stayed and wasnt really a "sacrifice" he didnt do it "for us" he did it for himself, he is THE demon hunter and there it is.. the source of the Burning legion, the big bad demon, the one and only! kinda makes sence that illidan just MUST fight him, yes all the other points of nobble are perfectly valid, poor Maiev... where the HEK is Wration? why is Tyrane such a masive Bitch?

  • @patchoulino
    @patchoulino 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    When you just want to see the shivarra... 18:28
    gotta love the moment when Nobbel falls

    • @sonicsupa99
      @sonicsupa99 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too I thought I was the only one lol

    • @shrubninja6444
      @shrubninja6444 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The fuckin dudes in raid chat "BIS sky in this fight." "T H I C C"

  • @favarion3266
    @favarion3266 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Nobbel had a great time with legion and we had a great time with him (thank you for all the work and the great content). All hail to the lore walker Nobbel ^^

    • @JustADucky
      @JustADucky 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Favarion Tegriss Love that you called him Lore Walker. I never thought about it before but the title fits perfectly. Lore Walker Nobbel. Awesome.

  • @Kralchen
    @Kralchen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Man, what a great video. Can't imagine the time it took to edit all of it, but it was definitely worth the effort. I wonder in what direction they will take the story from here on, but as long Nobbel makes videos about them, I'll certainly be interested.

  • @RynRobitske
    @RynRobitske 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I do love that they mirrored the old picture of Sargaras for his final moments.

    • @RynRobitske
      @RynRobitske 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      wow.gamepedia.com/File:Sargeras.JPG
      It may have been from the old RPG sourcebooks...

    • @krim7
      @krim7 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Very happy they did not make him felfire green.

    • @preds43
      @preds43 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      krim7 The Green Sargeras was probably just one of his Avatar. He likely also had a Purple form to go with the Void/Shadow shit as well. I mean, he is basically Satan, and he does want to stop the Void Lords and shit.

  • @xgt1000
    @xgt1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Man Illidan is a hell of a charter and that quest where you take the stone to Malfurion and Tyrande is SO heart breaking. He truly love her so much.

  • @booradley6832
    @booradley6832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "I cant wait for battle for azeroth to drop and see what it has in store"
    I come from the future to say "Oof."

  • @fightingfaerie
    @fightingfaerie 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i honestly got a little choked up over Illidan's goodbyes. Though Malfurion and Tyrande's responses left me a little ticked off. I always like Illidan and saw him more as a hero or antihero, this was such a fitting and perfect sendoff for him. I'm glad they brought him back, so they could finally do justice to the character. full circle indeed.
    also who else is kinda loving the relationship (friendship?) Illidan and Velen developed? that goodbye between them was pretty cool. to think, after 10000 years of being misunderstood and treated like a villain, it would be a holy prophet from another world that understood him best.

  • @dantoki6371
    @dantoki6371 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    If I remember correctly to the destruction warlock artifact lore,then Sargeras wanted to corrupt Azeroth and make her into his own. So I guess this is why he turns into a cloud,to simply corrupt her and after the Pantheon begin to summon him back to the seat,his last effort was to try destroy the planet,because it's stil better than left to be corrupted by the void.

    • @erikho6936
      @erikho6936 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dantoki He was good, JUST not thinking it the right mind

    • @shakirashipslied9721
      @shakirashipslied9721 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      tl;dr Sargeras wanted to make Azeroth his sugar baby

  • @Average-Jyo
    @Average-Jyo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Upvote if you liked the video because Nobbel gave Tyrande a rude gesture as she spoke.

  • @Cr0c0Rin0
    @Cr0c0Rin0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Gravity seemed to be your hardest opponent in this one :P

  • @HexRecordings
    @HexRecordings 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks Nobbel! I came back to WoW after you rekindled my interest with your interesting story videos. :)

  • @MegaChickenfish
    @MegaChickenfish 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm loving these montages for the Illidan speeches. Almost brings a tear to my eye.

  • @fionladfinley281
    @fionladfinley281 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    After questing in Silithus back in the day I would want to stab it with a giant sword too. XD

  • @ReZhorw
    @ReZhorw 6 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    It's so amazing and satisfying that we finally gets to see the Titans and Sargeras in the game. Blizzard has outdone themselves once again. And thank the light you're here to clarify their complicated lore, Nobbel :D

    • @Caedus696
      @Caedus696 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But also a little confusing. Sargeras took the entire pantheon on by himself and slew them all. And yet the pantheon, weakened and tortured for years, can somehow stop Sargeras now?

    • @ReZhorw
      @ReZhorw 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I know that, although Sargeras never slew them, he killed Aggramar, hence why he was able resurrect and corrupt him so easily. While the others pretended to be dead while their spirits went into hiding. Wasn't my point though. :)

    • @DarkSatan95
      @DarkSatan95 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      we did not really see Sargeras in the game, we just saw his avatar or sargeras through a cinematic :D

    • @kyotheman69
      @kyotheman69 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      story is mess though and still has holes in it, whole Sargeras humping the world was never explained, if he was there why didn't he just destroy us already? Legion is for sure better WoD was a mess so many things were cut out, still its messy in story

    • @TheMMObro
      @TheMMObro 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ReZhorw yeah i was kind of on the fence like if they show them out ruins the mystique, which it kinda does, and i never wanted to see sargeras bc i thought he'd look corny, but it wasn't bad. Sargeras i was hoping would look more like that one art picture that floats around where he's green and really demonic looking but he looked alright

  • @TheChunkeyNinja
    @TheChunkeyNinja 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    was awesome to raid with you nobbler, even if it was just normal mode.

  • @krupam0
    @krupam0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +257

    Eonar's world is named "Elunaria".
    HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

    • @greyworld6242
      @greyworld6242 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Krupam you think she created elune?

    • @krupam0
      @krupam0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      From what we heard of Elune so far, I'm thinking it could actually be the other way around.

    • @greyworld6242
      @greyworld6242 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Krupam maybe, or maybe she’s like a titan keeper made from a piece of Azeroth(moon was from the earth or another planet that crashed into it).

    • @TheMandaEye
      @TheMandaEye 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think they're the same entity

    • @madgunner01
      @madgunner01 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      *HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM* indeed

  • @ThePunishersRevenge
    @ThePunishersRevenge 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    31:20 BROXIGAR HIT THAT!? OH FUCK THATS BADASS!

  • @capitus1295
    @capitus1295 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saw countless thumbnails of YT videos showing the end cinematic, was over hyped but didn't look, and forced myself to wait to this specific video that I knew would come one day, to have the full story from A to Z, with all the details in-between. Thanks a lot for putting it out that quick!

  • @CAbabylon
    @CAbabylon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    What I want to know is, what is going to happen to the rest of the demons? There were, after all, supposed to be millions of them. Will someone take command of them? Will they devolve into utter chaos, each doing their own thing? I'm reminded sharply of why "there must always be a Lich King" and want to know how this will play out.

    • @TheMrhockey32
      @TheMrhockey32 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      lol imagine some of the demons become "allied races" in future expansions kind of how the forsaken came from the scourge… that would be completely ridiculous but I still need to play a manari so plz blizz make this happen thanks

    • @krim7
      @krim7 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Most like the Legion will fracture into hundreds of smaller factions, each lead by a petty warlord who seeks to re-unite the Legion that was.

    • @ogikay7056
      @ogikay7056 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Maybe illidan can take the charge of them,to rally them against void.Since some of the demons acknowledge void and wants to fight it Ex:Lady Heretica in Argus

    • @amitamaru
      @amitamaru 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Either they're currently reeling from the fact that their master has been beaten and need time to adjust, or they're going to turn on themselves in some kind of war of succession.

    • @LinusAkaPano
      @LinusAkaPano 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Y'all gotta realise the demons existed before the Legion. They would most probably return to their own factions, with many new ones as well. Though on which planet(s) is hard to say.

  • @dornfist3913
    @dornfist3913 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Revisiting the Legion story, I concur it is one of the best in the Wow games. Thank you for these amazing videos @Nobbel!
    Side note: I loved how before the credits rolled you pointed out all the remaining questions you had about Legion lore lol.

  • @johan3896
    @johan3896 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Wise words from Malfurion rings true
    ”Hush Tyrande”

  • @Next0gen0
    @Next0gen0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like that datamined info answered Alot of question's. Thanks for that.
    This xpac has really built a lore heavy universe. Here's hoping they can keep it up.

  • @cox8168
    @cox8168 6 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Thank you for the bedtime story :)

  • @Zeigler_
    @Zeigler_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude the amount of time and effort you go into these video is astounding, as you go into complete detail and makes sure that none of the story is left out

  • @SorisaDaradei
    @SorisaDaradei 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I could listen to Nobbel read a dictionary or a phonebook. You have such a fantastic storytelling voice.

    • @Azmina_the_warlock
      @Azmina_the_warlock 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Taylor Balerud only if the beginning would start, "Hello everyonnnne." And end with "see ya!" 😊😊😁

    • @ronibopshop
      @ronibopshop 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That voice is soothing and sexy ❤

  • @cvanims
    @cvanims 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My game never proc'd the cinematic of Illidan becoming the jailer, so I was REALLY confused until seeing this video. THANK YOU SO MUCH!

  • @Marshmello_Bear
    @Marshmello_Bear 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think saying "simply cause he wants to" is a bit of a slap to the face of Illidan for staying behind, other people may think it's whimsical but the illidan story I've watched and read showed he was someone who sacrificed everything and took a path that made him be viewed in contempt simply to be able to combat Sargearas I think it would have been weirder for him to simply give up on it simply because the the pantheon said they would imprison sarg. So I see it as a very fitting decision from him.

    • @rainmore35
      @rainmore35 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you insane, illidan combat sargeras? Come on , do you believe illidan can do something to him at all

  • @RQS321
    @RQS321 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "We're gaining ground! Press the attack!" One slam later... "Fall back!" On Turyelon.. ;p

  • @andreanuatti4103
    @andreanuatti4103 6 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Why cant people just accept that the titans can choose their own sizes

    • @TheMMObro
      @TheMMObro 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      André Anuatti lmao that's just how i thought of it as well

    • @marc-andrepaquette7242
      @marc-andrepaquette7242 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Because it makes no sense that a titan would just let himself be killed by us while that titan could have just transformed to planet sized and stomp us out of existence

    • @xaoc6084
      @xaoc6084 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      it looks like when they walk through space their size dramatically changes, idk maybe the pantheon they just let their egos go and turn back to their normal sizes.

    • @Aetherian1
      @Aetherian1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      André Anuatti Because, good sir, Chronicle explicitly states that the Titans created the Keepers to war against the Old Gods for fear their "colossal forms" would harm Azeroth.

  • @Wokiis
    @Wokiis 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Regarding "avatars" and all that. Seems to me they can dynamically adjust their size. The friggin seat of the pantheon has those size chairs so clearly they're used to fit in them when necessary and not only when they're weak.

  • @morbid1.
    @morbid1. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +268

    What a wasted potential with those teleports to other "worlds" :F

    • @do__ob
      @do__ob 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Looks to me like they planned to teleport us to those planets but didn't finish it in time. Even the voice lines of the boss make it seem like the portal will send us on a different planet. It's really weird and kind of disappointing, even though the fight is decent.

    • @ArgoIo
      @ArgoIo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      From what I would guess, I'd say it didn't work out because of performance issues. The Inquisition in Tomb of Sargeras uses similar mechanics and it is one of the worst FPS killers.

    • @do__ob
      @do__ob 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      really? I didn't have any problems with inquisition. And what about the dragons of nightmare? did they cause you issues too?

    • @fumarc4501
      @fumarc4501 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Neurotyczny Kot
      We got Balthazar, but not Tichondrius? Lame

    • @RileyRivalle2
      @RileyRivalle2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +FUmarc
      You mean Balnazzar? He was killed in an order campaign. Tichondrius was killed in the Nighthold.

  • @ateshhastam
    @ateshhastam 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for throwing this together. I wasn't able to play end-game for non-gameplay reasons, so I have missed quite a bit. Legion was definitely my favorite expansion. So much lore, art, beauty, etc. Sure, all of the questions at the end are shared! but that doesn't change how much I enjoyed it.

  • @bomba686ify
    @bomba686ify 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    All jokes aside maybe there is a reason Sargeras struck Silithus, cause we have learned that the bad guys don't do things without a reason. Maybe that's where we are supposed to look for N'Zoth instead of fighting over shiny blood. Really hope they clear up the things mentioned in the video and they set up the next expansion appropriately. Great video as always Nobbel.

    • @tri1937
      @tri1937 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i doubt he knew exactly where the old gods were, and purposely struck right in front of (because hes in anquirajh not silithus) the prison of the one thing he feared. He did everything to save the universe, why would he just doom it cause he inst the one to save it his way.

    • @andreware2039
      @andreware2039 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      N'zoth is nowhere near silithus.

    • @MayhemPenguin
      @MayhemPenguin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He prob just stabbed randomly to kinda grab hold or like stated in a fit of rage.

    • @Gior89
      @Gior89 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      HE REALLY HATES QUESting in silithus

    • @doggybhawbhaw1483
      @doggybhawbhaw1483 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Psyclone
      9000 exp

  • @galacticdino
    @galacticdino 6 ปีที่แล้ว +341

    Where is maiev?? Tell me she is pregnant!!!

    • @grimMjownish
      @grimMjownish 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Just wanted to say the same xD well done

    • @OriginalKasym
      @OriginalKasym 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Illidan's bastard, quarter demon, child

    • @TheHalogen131
      @TheHalogen131 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Maiev is all alone out there. Without her purpose. My poor waifu :(

    • @OriginalKasym
      @OriginalKasym 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      WowJedi You're a DH aren't you. You're going back in the green crystal first chance she gets.

    • @topdog2007
      @topdog2007 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      nah guys she having illidane baby demon child elf demon jailer XD

  • @albertorafensian6270
    @albertorafensian6270 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    all the lore in this expansion was dope

  • @cryptidofoz
    @cryptidofoz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad this video exists. i got so burnt out trying to just get to this point on my toons. With all the time gates and grinds I was just so...so done lol I'm happy to see how the story ended without me actually having to fight my way through Antorus myself through LFR and what not. Thanks again, Nobbel!

  • @Anime4Life35
    @Anime4Life35 6 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Where were the Horde leaders during all of this?

    • @Karlsmart111
      @Karlsmart111 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Sylvanas thought it would be awkward to mingle with her sisters, so she ordered the horde to stay behind.

    • @pauloserrao2337
      @pauloserrao2337 6 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      burning trees, attackin capitals, backstabbing shit u know.

    • @Pduczkowski
      @Pduczkowski 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Same place as the alliance leaders. 5 out of 6 aren't there.

    • @krim7
      @krim7 6 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      The whole story was that the Horde and the Alliance failed. That is why the class order halls rose up - to do what the Horde and Alliance could not do - save the world.

    • @BerkemasterNL
      @BerkemasterNL 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What is the Horde never heard of them, who are they?

  • @MegaChickenfish
    @MegaChickenfish 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    45:54 hahahahaha that's amazing. I didn't see that when I put down the crystal! Illidan and Malfurion... _with Tyrande in between them._

  • @Kingofbox
    @Kingofbox 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    22:22 Thats one way to deal with corrupted titan...

  • @JuanDimian
    @JuanDimian 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you man, this is one of your best videos so far. Good job!

  • @sleepydruid100
    @sleepydruid100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really liked how Turalyon NOped the f out once the first boss oneshotted his group xD

  • @NeoReziel
    @NeoReziel 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not playing Wow any longer, but ty to you I can still follow the main storyline, so thanks Nobbel for your Lore explanations, I really enjoy them.

  • @greyworld6242
    @greyworld6242 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    God damn this was beautiful, and your frustration with the left over stuff was funny as hell!

  • @Naytsabehz
    @Naytsabehz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey excellent video and as a non-native-english user i must really thank you for the subtitles and the amazing narrative you deploy, it's almost like reading a nobel with meme's reference.
    An overall, Legion was bigger than the little humans they wrote it, thank you Nobbel.

  • @giovannysilva7735
    @giovannysilva7735 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Gr8 vid... as always Mr Nobbel.
    I would agree that Legion is the best expansion ever if it wasn't for the never ending RNG, it takes away the feeling of effort vs reward and the fun of it for me. Cuz of that i haven't raid as much sens my gearing seems to take a back sit to Miss Fortuna. lucky i have the story line to have fun with and me wife whom i duo crazy stuff with (mostly dying ofc) just for laughs ;)

  • @strandedgeek
    @strandedgeek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you imagine what kind of deep spiritual moment the heroes must have had or felt when this happened? Like what kind of peace of mind that would give someone? The idea that you just talked to your actual literal god? Like no questions of doubt, they are real! That had to be mind blowing.

  • @yarigaso
    @yarigaso 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After all this I get the feeling that we're sacrificing the power of our weapon to repair the wound on Azeroth and in doing so she repays us by giving us a sliver of her power in the form of The Heart of Azeroth.

  • @derpaderpaderpader
    @derpaderpaderpader 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    omg, thank you for this. your sentiment with how things remain unresolved echo my own. You are one of, if not my favorite, youtube content creators.

  • @therosmo1491
    @therosmo1491 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Heya Nobbel! Great video, as always. Recently looked at old videos of yours and I came upon the one with the Light's Heart quest line. I didn't realize it before, but isn't strange how we find Illidan's soul or spirit in Helheim? If he did "die" on Outland, why is his spirit there instead of either in the Twisting Nether or in Outland's version of Helheim? And if we did find Illidan's spirit there, why didn't we see Arthas's soul or Neltharion's, both of which who did die on Azeroth? And if Helheim can go across worlds, couldn't then go across realities? Why don't we see our Garrosh's soul who died on alternate Draenor in Helheim? Just a few questions that struck out to me. Thanks as always for the great videos that you make! Cya!

  • @1032iceman
    @1032iceman 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This expansion made me think a lot about wow. From its start all the way up to this very point. At some times in the past I would always ask myself wether or not the game/story is even my attention. But to see legion unfold I can say without a shadow of doubt I’m really glad I stayed. Friends come and go but that’s life it all boils down to the memories you share with them in the short time you play. Thank you Blizzard for giving us such an awesome expansion and game - From a player who’s been with the game since the beginning.

  • @wengeance8962
    @wengeance8962 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    thanks nobbel, you're my fucking hero. i've been waiting for this

  • @makivlach
    @makivlach 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! So much content in such a short time! Thank you, Lorewalker Nobbel

  • @cleric1125
    @cleric1125 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly I dont have any questions about Illidans choice to stay behind, whats there to ask? They reworked Illidans story so that he is a being consumed with his war against the Legion, it is all that he is. When standing face to face with the Titan that started it all, of course he binds himself to the fate of Sargeras. Where ever Sargeras is, so will Illidan hunt, and in this final case, he guards over him. A titan is never permanently killable and Illidan has no purpose left on Azeroth.

  • @WiseBurger
    @WiseBurger 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    When Illidan made the ultimate sacrifice... and Sargeras gets pulled back to the seat of the pantheon.. then Illidan flips the switch on the Warglavies.. the amount of honor and sacrifice, even in this fucking video game, made me tear up.

  • @boo5860
    @boo5860 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I think the mythic versions of fights are oddly the most canon. I mean, if mythic archimonde wasn't canon, why didn't he appear in Legion?

    • @randjan8592
      @randjan8592 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Mostly because of bad writing, WoD screwed everything with the time-travelling mumbo-jumbo. That's my opinion and feeling. It hurts me inside, every time I level through WoD again and see the stuff. It's all cool, but nonsensical.
      In mythic Nighthold, Illidan's body becomes the new avatar of Sargeras and he leaves the crystal. That's definitely not what happened, because the crystal is only shattered when the cinematic starts, if we consider the cinematic as canon.

    • @123Sunwell
      @123Sunwell 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The time travel itself is not the problem imo. There were a lot of time travels even before this expansion. WoD just ended up with rush and lots of things unexplored and not properly explained.

    • @bendegyuris1614
      @bendegyuris1614 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      He appeaared at the second battle for mount hyjal at the druid clashall quest or what was that ?

    • @123Sunwell
      @123Sunwell 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The druid campaign was the replaying of the war of the ancients. That Archimonde is simply the nightmare of Malorne, who was killed by him 10,000 years ago.

  • @lostcrusader1
    @lostcrusader1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is good to have affirmation about feeling like there are missing details! GRAHH

  • @MegaJawa12
    @MegaJawa12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    Legion is the best expansion

    • @SaundersYT
      @SaundersYT 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      TBC and Wrath were better. MoP was decent as well

    • @kratenvinhas
      @kratenvinhas 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I actually enjoyed Legion more than Wrath and I’ve been playing since 1.8. As far as expansions go, Legion has been my second favorite after TBC. What a bounce back from WoD!

    • @preds43
      @preds43 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      TBC And Legion are both the Best, Wrath's a close second. Cata was shit, as well as WoD. MoP was just a joke.

    • @kratenvinhas
      @kratenvinhas 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree for the most part. The beginning of Cata was decent and most of MoP was good. Some people just didn't enjoy seeing Pandas in Warcraft, even though they were already part of the lore.

    • @johannessimola1615
      @johannessimola1615 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Saunders Wrath and tbc weren't that good. Yeah they where fun to play. Story progress in tbc quest was horrible, quests where dull though it had fun aesthetics. Kara was easy as balls and had one the most pointles boss fights ever. tempest keep and coilfang reservoir raids where good and fun but BT was a huge dissapoiment and dull compared to TK. Zul'aman.. don't even talk how bad it was after even dissapointing BT. Sunwell was good but as whole. PVP in tbc was only balanced because there where alot of OP specs/builds. Hc dungeons where maybe the best part of tbc but it had alot negatives. Also it wasted alot great lore characters like Zul'jin, Lady vash, Kargath and Teron Gorefiend. Daily quest where fun addition though if they where like that in the current game they would just be burden and not fun.
      Wrath as a whole was too easy only really hard bosses it had was Yogg+0, Algalon and LK. Lk was for my guild atleast the easiest from those three. Questing was more the same as tbc with only little bit better quest and they where still just dull and grindy. Only good questing parts of wotlk was IC, storm peaks and dragonblight. Also raids where horibbly easier than tbc raids and hc dungeons where a joke. Only real end game daily quest hub was trial of crusader area which came 3.2 if I remeber correctly. Also Arthas was a dullest character of the Scourge. Ner'zhul, Anub'arak and KT where much more interesting and the expasion wasted their characters. Also Dk's could as dps solo hard group quest content easily also I did with 5 dps dk's whole Hall of lightining HC and we didn't even have to careful with our pulls. Also made me sad that wrath ruined onyxia and ruined my good memories from that boss.

  • @LeyenaZoey
    @LeyenaZoey 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow, i stayed up way to late for this. Worth it. but dangit, it's 4AM! Having Nobbel tell me a bedtime story is funny. Subbed + alert on. (Bedankt, iemand die zo fijn kan vertellen!)

  • @azsharionmb
    @azsharionmb 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    TBC and Legion are really the best expansions ^^

  • @thorsakencairne
    @thorsakencairne 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!! Been waiting all week!

  • @Especti1
    @Especti1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And then they (Illidan and the Pantheon) went to the Nexus and kept on killing each other for eternity.

  • @user-lydia698
    @user-lydia698 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, I was a bit worried when everyone else posted videos about Antorus the raid and the end cinematic, but I see now that you've been busy. I too was rooting for a Maeiv x Illidan ship, and stil do...perhaps Blizz will surprize us all and Maeiv will find her way at the Seat of the Pantheon, because after all, "the Huntress is nothing without her hunt...;)

  • @saintburrito2082
    @saintburrito2082 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome video bro!!

  • @rkramer5629
    @rkramer5629 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome work getting this out so fast. Can't wait to get into it myself but dang, so many holes and broken pieces to the story. But then that is so much of Legion... Sure hope they get around the clarifying some of this stuff!

  • @billb207
    @billb207 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Big shout-out to Jeeves for his cameo role.

  • @Vantorea
    @Vantorea 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Oh, Illidan. My search for power must also rival yours. So that maybe after another 10 000 years of imprisonment I can find a way to set you free. For you to see the world you helped to save and to finally find a life without pain and strife." - Slayer Dawnfury
    Thanks again, Nobbel. It was hard to make sense of anything doing the raid. It's nice to see what the different fights and bosses meant :D

  • @Raytexifire
    @Raytexifire 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Am i the only one who wonder where sargeras had his hand when he stabbed azeroth? I mean that must leave some Damage right?

    • @taavidude
      @taavidude 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well he is holding his hand to the left of Silithus and we haven't seen the other side of Azeroth yet. Could be the undiscovered continent he might have damaged.

    • @xaoc6084
      @xaoc6084 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why didn't he just bear hug Azeroth and crush the planet.

  • @rawan0111
    @rawan0111 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay I love Nobbel and all his lore videos. I'm a big fan. But i had to slow down the speed to 0.75 and put subtitles just so i dont have to keep repeating some parts xD I feel like he speaks too fast. great videos tho, cant wait for the next ^_^

  • @lysk0ss
    @lysk0ss 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    32:05 i find illidan's quote"At last" a bit suspicious

  • @MegaChickenfish
    @MegaChickenfish 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was surprised you didn't comment on the "final titan" thing Magni said. My mind immediately snapped back to the vision of the Thunder King's heart:
    "WE HAVE FALLEN. WE MUST REBUILD THE FINAL TITAN. DO NOT FORGET."

  • @cea1671
    @cea1671 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ugh... Maiev should have totally stayed with Illidan in Space God Jail.. such wasted potential.

  • @arkhambat-fg9ew
    @arkhambat-fg9ew 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate Nobbel showing the mythic quest only dialogue. I'll never be able to see it because blizz likes to give special things like that to the elites only. Thanks Blizz.

  • @EpicGamingWarriors
    @EpicGamingWarriors 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Aggramar's blade is the leader of Ireland?

  • @noobley6399
    @noobley6399 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After so many years in this game thinking that no matter what, The legion is still out there , The fact that the legion is now over is kind of... weird in a sense.
    It's even difficult to process it, The legion is no longer there and Sargeras is defeated, Things that always existed are no longer there.
    Also, great vid Nobbel i love your stuff

    • @noobley6399
      @noobley6399 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's my favourite expansion. From the leveling , to the lore, to the content, to the absurd amount of things to do, to the dungeons and the raids (im not too much of a pvp kind of guy). Also the little things about the expansion were great as well. Like the world quests , the class challenges , the music,etc . If there was something that i didn't like about legion that is artifacts. I like the idea of having a really powerful weapon and more if it's a cool looking one But the system becomes a bit annoying by how grindy it is and how unsatisfying it is to get a relic, It doesn't feel the same way as getting a new weapon, The only other thing that i didn't really like in this expansion were rotations , they were fun at the start but they become redundant after 1 minute. In terms of lore this expansion is my favourite, as i said the legion is something that has been there forever, the feeling that the legion is no longer there is something difficult to digest after thinking that they're always there. Also, the pantheon is kind of ungrateful, i know that they're titans and they see themselves above everyone else but aman'thul is like "we need to rest" "go back home you mortals" without saying something like "Thank you for saving us and the entire universe" "Thank you for basically defeating an infinite, unbeaten army" nothing of that. Aman'thul and the pantheon are a bunch of dicks.

  • @SleepyFailer
    @SleepyFailer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "It was a good life" XD

  • @theosebes9975
    @theosebes9975 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    46:09 Is hilarious, setting up there all buddy buddy with his Warglaives on his back.....

  • @McLean757
    @McLean757 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    39:15 Nobbel the Nibbler

  • @dacbiet
    @dacbiet 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As much as I love the lore of Arthas, Illidan has to be one of the most fleshed out character of Warcraft ever.

  • @NOjustnou
    @NOjustnou 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is it me or why he doesnt bonus rolls bosses that dont give out tier/trinkets? *TRIGGERED*

  • @StormsparkPegasus
    @StormsparkPegasus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    During the last fight at the Seat of the Pantheon, I'm going to assume that being empowered by them actually makes us titan sized (or nearly so). So that is probably their actual forms (they used Argus to regenerate themselves back into actual bodies before it awakened).

  • @starcarft21999
    @starcarft21999 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Does Nobbel just have a Tauren Paladin, or is their some like, Magic vodoo shit going on here, since he is usually a Human Pally

    • @resention8230
      @resention8230 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      You do realize faction transfer is a thing, right....? He wanted to raid with Preach, but he plays Horde...

    • @TheMMObro
      @TheMMObro 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      SpinoJames he had human AND belf, idk what this Tauren is!

    • @raver377
      @raver377 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      90% of the time you can make a ticket after a character change and they change it back for free. most of the time they even let you refund it if you can come up with a good reason

    • @tri1937
      @tri1937 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is it that hard to believe that he has an alt?

    • @starcarft21999
      @starcarft21999 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It has the same name as his main .3.

  • @JPZett
    @JPZett 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh man they are running the dungeon with a guy from Ragnaros! May the light protect them from incompetence.
    Awesome video as always Nobbel!

  • @hopop201
    @hopop201 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Did you faction change to be able to do the raid with Preach's Horde group?

    • @tri1937
      @tri1937 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      no people ask this every raid video, he has an alt

    • @MayhemPenguin
      @MayhemPenguin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Alts cant exist, this is blasphemy

    • @Nobbel87
      @Nobbel87  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Aye

  • @aidenhall559
    @aidenhall559 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stopped playing last december, this was just what I needed