15 Subtle Differences between Super Mario RPG for SNES and Switch (Part 2)

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  • #Differences #Details #SuperMarioRPG
    New animations, glitch fixes (Mack skip), new correct pattern for the Midas River minigame... and more!
    Here's 15 other subtle differences between the original Super Mario RPG for the Super Nintendo and the remake for Nintendo Switch.
    Check out the first episode if you missed it :)
    • 15 Subtle Differences ...

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  • @FNAFman1983
    @FNAFman1983 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I remember watching this channel when I was younger before I forgot about it. So glad I rediscovered this, for the content is quality and never clickbaited.

  • @Wendy_O._Koopa
    @Wendy_O._Koopa ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Don't forget how crazy lenient the item storage is in the new version. In the original, Mario could only hold up to 29 regular items, plus 29 weapon/armor/accessory items, but now he can carry up to 10 of most items, but only up to 3 Croaka Colas (formerly Kerokero Cola) at a time. Any excess items are automatically transferred to a storage box in Mario's Pad, and after that reaches 99, the items just start disappearing as you get them... but honestly, that's way more than you'd ever need of anything.

    • @mariotheundying
      @mariotheundying ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't like that they disappear, maybe just ask the player just in case if they want it

    • @Wendy_O._Koopa
      @Wendy_O._Koopa ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mariotheundying If you have 99 Mushrooms in your storage box, and 10 on hand, maybe it's time to stop footling around the Forrest Maze, picking them up. The game expects you to sell them, or feed them to the Mushroom Boy before that many pile up. Either way, 109 of most items, and 102 Croaka Colas really is more than you'll ever need.

    • @OhNoTheFace
      @OhNoTheFace ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Wendy_O._Koopa There is also the moleville person that will take junk for points

    • @Wendy_O._Koopa
      @Wendy_O._Koopa ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OhNoTheFace Yes, there's more than enough ways to unload excess items long before you acquire a stack of 99 in your storage box.

  • @MK-od9tm
    @MK-od9tm ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Gotta love super mario rpg, im so happy its on switch now! 😊

  • @Zerethos
    @Zerethos ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I remember seeing this somewhere before (I think Master of Hyrule?) another reason why Mack was renamed to Claymorton was to avoid copyright issues. I think it was in reference to a song, something about “Mack the knife” I believe. (On a somewhat related note, I hate the fact that Yaridovich has been renamed to “Speardovich” like come on. To us it’s always been Yaridovich even though “Yari” translates to spear from Japanese which would make sense but Yaridovich just rolls better.)

    • @OtakuUnitedStudio
      @OtakuUnitedStudio ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah, McDonald's settled a case out of court against Bobby Darin's son Dodd who claimed McDonald's had unfairly used his father's work for corporate promotion, specifically their pastiche of "Mack the Knife," "Mac Tonight." This happened a while after Mario RPG had come out, so they may have changed Mack's name to avoid a frivolous lawsuit.

    • @FFKonoko
      @FFKonoko ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The original intent was always to have weapon puns. Claymorton was Kenzōru in the Japanese, with Ken being sword or blade. Mack the knife was a pun, but unnecessarily reference based and yaridovitch was the other extreme, just copying the Japanese name without translating it. So the pun wasn't even noticeable.
      Ignoring the nostalgia side, I'm glad they fixed that, though I suppose they could have gone with spearyari or something.

    • @moisesflores5405
      @moisesflores5405 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@OtakuUnitedStudioThe original song was a German song from the Threepenny Opera play "Die Moritat von Mackie Messe". I believe the suing came because of McDonald's song sounded similar to the Bobby Darin cover of it.

    • @Wendy_O._Koopa
      @Wendy_O._Koopa ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@OtakuUnitedStudio Your timeline is off. Mac Tonight started in 1986, with the lawsuit settling in 1989; which is also when they retired the character. The original release of Super Mario RPG was in 1996, and never uses the phrase "Mack the knife," or ever refers to his 'pogo-sword' as a knife, or even refers to it at all. However, it could still easily have been changed due to copyright concerns.

    • @poweroffriendship2.0
      @poweroffriendship2.0 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      - I guess changing "Mack the Knife" to "Claymorton" makes sense regarding the reason why McDonald's Mac Tonight becomes obscure nowadays (outside of his popularity of vaporwave).
      - The name changed from Yaridovich to Speardovich is understandable. It's funny that Yaridovich fits better because I thought has anything to do with the pirate theme (like "yar" is a battle cry for pirates and not just a Japanese term).

  • @Epic_C
    @Epic_C ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is how to properly do a remake of this stature. While there are some subtle differences and quality of life improvements, the game is still about the same. The best upgrade is the music. It is different but still very close to the original. This is unlike square enix and secret of Mana remake, which they completely botched the music upgrade.

    • @MrVariant
      @MrVariant ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's much easier and faster to complete while only new boss rematches are postgame. It's tough to recommend unless you really need a nostalgia trip and don't want to play the countless modern games with timed attacks (paper mario, sea of stars, another crusade, mario and luigi rpgs, even the bootleg touhou shoujo tale of beautiful memories). Cris tales also has timed attacks and voice acting (play on ps5/xbox series as loading sucked before), which adds a lot, that sadly smrpg lacked when they could have just done Mario, Peach and Bowser, or have Mallow sound out crying.
      You also don't have any type of customization to tinker with (like ff6 or ff8 which remasters benefit tremendously, with esper stat/setzer fixed dice level growth quadrupled as needed in ff6, and ff8 triple speed for sluggish drawing magic for junctions, as well as long summons while having infinite turns to get diablos early), nor a hard mode/new characters/playstyles. FF6 has Gau break the game early with templar/Stray Cat, but the chainsaw can kill regenerating undead, regen is faster and Cyan doesn't clog the menu with slow bushido, so his endgame oblivion is a time bomb to auto win regular encounters in PR (console exclusive boosts for earlier auction and hidden esper purchases, and turn off encounters in crazy fanatics tower).
      I feel super mario rpg made the lazy grandia 2 HD hard mode that buffed enemies with 15% more hp try harder.
      At least g2 didn't add a splash/triple attack and obvious indicators for timing cancels when it's already fairly easy. And don't get me started on mid battle character swapping in smrpg.

    • @mariotheundying
      @mariotheundying ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The same person that did the original music also make the music in this remake, so it has the main intentions intact

  • @twindragonstvab
    @twindragonstvab ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There is a move drain from a shyster in super Nintendo, but in the remake the move drain is removed and hot shot takes it's place from a shymore.

    • @probablynoctis7872
      @probablynoctis7872 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hot Shot is just a retranslation. It makes more sense, too, as the move never drained health (it only deals damage) and in Japanese it was always Fire Orb. No idea where Woolsey got Drain and Mega Drain from.

    • @JosephShemelewski
      @JosephShemelewski ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@probablynoctis7872dude was translating a ton of shit by himself I wouldn't give him too hard of a time over a couple quirks

  • @clamojoat1938
    @clamojoat1938 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    a lot of people also forget that this used to be a squaresoft game. YES before enix merged with them. so a lot of simple stuff had to change cause of that.

  • @Meximole
    @Meximole ปีที่แล้ว +1

    … I just beat the game last night and haven't touched the post game yet but I only just now learned that I can fast travel because of this video. This is probably why I was over leveled.

  • @jnsmith111
    @jnsmith111 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:15- I think this was supposed to be some clever reference to Bobby Darin's Mack the Knife.
    I'm all the way to the Culex 3D fight and I just discovered today there was a quick map option the whole time. I climbed Booster's tower manually for the rematch.

  • @jakisrandom1
    @jakisrandom1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ok but does the minigame after midas jumping no longer require frame-perfect inputs in order to get all coins, to increase the price for 100% completion?

  • @johnrose1641
    @johnrose1641 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Did the remake add any animation for “The Forkies are enraptured”?That one was a bit much for eight-year-old me.

    • @zazakoolaid
      @zazakoolaid ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually, yes. When they're enraptured, they'll have their eyes closed with a smile, like they're imagining something relaxing, then when you hit them, they'll perk up.

  • @shawntraub7249
    @shawntraub7249 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Who's that little dude sitting on top of my pal Mack the Knife's head? I always assumed he was wearing a red bandana.

    • @xinpingdonohoe3978
      @xinpingdonohoe3978 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it not a union? Mack is the combination of the knife and knight.

    • @Wendy_O._Koopa
      @Wendy_O._Koopa ปีที่แล้ว

      That boss has always been two entities, both of which have eyes (in both versions), so like is one Mack and the other Claymorton? Which one is which?

    • @xinpingdonohoe3978
      @xinpingdonohoe3978 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wendy_O._Koopa maybe one's Claymore and the other's Morton (not Jr.).

    • @Wendy_O._Koopa
      @Wendy_O._Koopa ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xinpingdonohoe3978 Yes, I'm aware of the confusing nature between him and my "little" brother. But then you're getting an extra "more" outta nowhere. It should probably be _Clay and Morton..._ but then we run into the same problem again. Which one is which?

  • @varietychan
    @varietychan ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wish they kept a lot of the original names as I find things like "NokNokShell" way more interesting than the generic "Koopa Shell"

    • @alp627
      @alp627 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      NokNok Shell was just a failed transliteration from Japanese though, where Koopa Troopas are known as Nokonoko.

    • @varietychan
      @varietychan ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@alp627 it still sounds cooler. A lot of things in the original are failed translations, but make it interesting

    • @OhNoTheFace
      @OhNoTheFace ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@varietychan Yeah, nostalgia will do that to ya

    • @Needwagon4Speedwagon
      @Needwagon4Speedwagon ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@OhNoTheFaceNah og names are just cooler like that

  • @rexellate
    @rexellate ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:14 honestly I figured this change happened because “Shyster” sounds like a vulgar term meaning “worthless person” deriving from the German word “Scheisser”

    • @Wendy_O._Koopa
      @Wendy_O._Koopa ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Okay... weird. "Shyster" in English simply means "a dishonest person, especially a lawyer or politician" according to Google/dictionaries.

  • @TheRealBatabii
    @TheRealBatabii ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The new midas river layout threw me off so much. It's weird how much they changed it.

  • @nicholasharvey1232
    @nicholasharvey1232 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That trampoline in Kero Sewers served no purpose but to frustrate players. It's a good thing they removed it.

  • @Cliffordlonghead
    @Cliffordlonghead ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video

  • @tyler3036
    @tyler3036 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Basic attacks sure didn't spread towards the other enemies (not targeted) in the original version, It does on the remake though.

  • @MrVariant
    @MrVariant ปีที่แล้ว

    4:42 nice lol.

  • @SeanFoxxx
    @SeanFoxxx ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for these!

  • @sprockkets
    @sprockkets ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, Shyster is a person, esp a lawyer who is unscrupulous, fraudulent or deceptive. Don't know if that applies to the enemies, but I did like the name being a play on shy. Also, didn't realize Mack was a small guy on top of a sword; I thought he was just all one entity.
    Also, for number 13, did you have to have the accessory ring for the game to tell you a hidden treasure is there? I don't have a switch to play on.

    • @jNetDowling
      @jNetDowling 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, you need the Signal Ring for that message to appear.

  • @glauciarochelle
    @glauciarochelle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    croco: water! water! water!

  • @WhoIsSirChasm
    @WhoIsSirChasm ปีที่แล้ว +6

    #JusticeForMack

    • @Themacattack1209
      @Themacattack1209 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Claymorton is better. Mack made no sense when considering all of the weapon names for Smithy’s gang.

    • @HipnotikHylian
      @HipnotikHylian ปีที่แล้ว

      Naw. Claymorton is better and more in-line with the original version. Mack never made any sense.

    • @robbiewalker2831
      @robbiewalker2831 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HipnotikHylian Unless they used that name for the Sword, considering someone thought it was the Sword talking and not the red guy controlling it.

    • @Rhubarb120
      @Rhubarb120 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​​@@Themacattack1209 It does fit the weapon naming scheme. He was named after the song "Mack the Knife" which was very popular at the time of the game's release.

    • @Onigirli
      @Onigirli ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Themacattack1209 It's too weird of a pun, my mind goes to Clay Morton instead of Claymore(ton). Mack 4 lyfe

  • @MasterKnightDH
    @MasterKnightDH ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to add 2 things changed with Mack/Claymorton/Mangs/Claymagnus, both involving the Bodyguards. First, the BGs no longer drop HP Max Flowers when defeated by physical attacks. Second, the BGs upon being resummoned have their FP properly restored.

  • @AimeRoyer
    @AimeRoyer ปีที่แล้ว +39

    in totk, in the final cutscene, we can see the bridge leading to the little platform behind the temple of time : it has been restaured !

    • @TheRealBatabii
      @TheRealBatabii ปีที่แล้ว +31

      what does that have to do with the video??

    • @ShortMiao
      @ShortMiao ปีที่แล้ว +18

      That has nothing to do with the video, Zelda kid.

    • @JJAB91
      @JJAB91 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      >restaured

    • @Kimarnic
      @Kimarnic ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Sir, this is Mario RPG

    • @Psyducks-headache
      @Psyducks-headache ปีที่แล้ว +20

      He a little confused but he got the spirit

  • @travisdaviault4605
    @travisdaviault4605 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yayyyy!
    :)

  • @DblOSmith
    @DblOSmith ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Shyster is also a racial slur.

    • @2011supergamer
      @2011supergamer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought it was just a term for an underhanded lawyer, and it was changed to avoid confusion with the newly renamed "Snifsters" which get their name from Booster.

    • @Teknanam
      @Teknanam ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is a questionable statement based on the assumption that Shyster is derived from Shylock (The Jewish villain of Shakespeare's "The Merchant from Venice"). There is as much claim that its derived from the German word Scheißer. Ultimately, its a term meant for scamming lawyers or just scammers in general.

  • @jarredkrum9894
    @jarredkrum9894 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ill just stick to the original tbh

  • @Vanessinha91Pucca
    @Vanessinha91Pucca ปีที่แล้ว

    If ONLY nintendo release this game on Steam

    • @mariotheundying
      @mariotheundying ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would they? People buy a console just to play a game, those console sales would be lost if they did that

    • @Vanessinha91Pucca
      @Vanessinha91Pucca ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mariotheundying I don't buy a console to play a game. Quite the opposite i rather pass on Mario RPG if it need me to buy a console that i don't need or want.

    • @mariotheundying
      @mariotheundying ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Vanessinha91Pucca didn't say it was you, just that there's people like that, tho I forgot to include the word some

    • @Vanessinha91Pucca
      @Vanessinha91Pucca ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mariotheundying They are missing sales. The Switch dont even compete with a real console or a PC. This outdated view of them really sucks

    • @mariotheundying
      @mariotheundying ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Vanessinha91Pucca if Nintendo releases their games in another platform then a Nintendo console would be useless, Nintendo wouldn't give up their consoles at all
      PlayStation gets sells because of their advanced hardware
      Xbox gets their sells from somewhere (idk they vibing)
      Nintendo gets their sells thanks to their games, that's also prob why their hardware is always outdated or why they didn't improve the switch since 2017, because they can get a good game out of it anyways if they do the attempt to even make a good game

  • @sandeegrey5977
    @sandeegrey5977 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who-hoo, more woke changes 👌

    • @Molten2004
      @Molten2004 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Bad bait

    • @ShortMiao
      @ShortMiao ปีที่แล้ว

      This is the stupidest bait comment

    • @incrediblesnn
      @incrediblesnn ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Bait used to be believable

    • @sandeegrey5977
      @sandeegrey5977 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Molten2004 So close, yet so, so far

    • @ncapone87
      @ncapone87 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about any of this is "woke?" Fuckin goofball