John Wayne telling James to keep that shotgun pointed at this table…both barrels…like one barrel could be pointed somewhere else and the table. I always chuckle at that line. Great video Santee thank you.
I believe he was just letting him know to use both barrels if they try anything. It also lets the ones at the table know that they would catch both barrels if they try anything.
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in the early 1900s the Ithaca gun company produce a limited number of factory made 20ga double barrel pistols called the Auto and Burglar gun 10 to 12 inch barrels, "saw grip" and a holster - outlawed by the NFA in 1934
Duke said to keep the gun pointed at this table. Both barrels. I'm not sure how he could only point one barrel at the table! Great video! -Desert Rat Rick
Currently watching this episode from the range at the 2024 WA State SASS Championship. Thanks for the morning’s entertainment Santee, see ya on down the trail.
I am 60 years old I have grown up with everything cowboy My brother and me used to quick draw up with we grew up with everything cowboy we never hurt nobody but we love that lifestyle so I'm so happy to see somebody trying to keep the Spirit alive
I love that you showed a scene from El Dorado that was filmed at Old Tucson Studio. The last time I was there, that location (inside the gun store) was still there. 🥰
In Cormac McCarthy's delightful childrens novel Blood Meridian, there is a scene were one of the gang wants a gunsmith to saw the barrels off a fine English shotgun, the gunsmith refuses to do it out of disgust at the idea of wrecking such a nice piece. If you haven't read it you simply must, the audiobook is excellent if you prefer that format.
Thank You again for another educational and informative video on the Old West life. I appreciate all the work you put into trying to bring our history into this world of over-used technology. The sawed-off shotgun was a weapon everyone saw in ANY old or new western film or tv series. Keep up the great videos. And always, Happy Trails To You! 🤠🔫🐎
Brother Santee, Absolutely love the Old West Sawed-Off Shogun history. Thank you very much. You and Mrs. Pew Pew have a beautiful and blessed weekend. Your Gunslinger Brother. Chubbeth Thunder
That shotgun scene from Open Range has to be one of my all time favorites, right down to the twitching leg 😱 I also loved Viggo's 8 gauge in Appaloosa. Very effective cannon, if you could handle the recoil 😁
Great video as always! Another use for shotguns in the old west that I've come across is that the Texas Rangers specifically from the late 1830s through the War for Southern Independence used them to fight Comanche since the shortened barrel was easy to manage on horseback and since shotguns could take out multiple people in one blast and being double barrel you had 2 shot you didn't have to reload, it made them popular among those early Rangers and the Confederate Texas Cavalry units.
Another great video as always! Glad to know sawed-off were historically accurate. This video really brighten my day as I head to work keep up the amazing work!
Thanks Santee once again another good video this one is about sawed off shotgun barrels. The books I have read by researched authors, mentioned the Wells Fargo messengers used those type shotguns because, close to highwayman, better close range would almost cut person in half caused by both barrels same time. OUCH!!!-Kid Yuma
It was nice to get to see a video about this subject. If anything, I remember seeing a western where someone had a sawn off shotgun in a holster on his hip.
I might not own a sawed off sxs but I discovered an 1890's dump with also some civil war era suspender clips. But the dump reaches early 1890s to 1930. Most of the stuff is from early 1890- pre 1920. I also found parts to 1890's sxs 32 inch barrel one of the hammers intact, mechanism piece, trigger guard and 1890's shot up bucket and a shot up tin can! But my favorite tiny thing I found so far was a Tole Art Spittoon. Thank you and Deus Vult!
Few years ago Forgotten Weapons had an old west revolver shotgun that had been cut down to pistols size. My 1st thoughts were that the barrel and stocks could have been damaged, and it was simply a case of waste not want not.
I think Perdasoli arms offers a Calvary shotgun and they have a twenty bore howdah pistol. A load of #4 buck closely matches a short shot gun load. Wear wrist support when shooting😊
I bought a replica coach 12 gauge shotgun years ago after a Texas historian told me about them. Also had my grandfather's long barreled shotgun and a Mossberg pump.
Hi Santee, I like my coach gun. Being short it fit right in for the guard on the stagecoach. I think that maybe we're the phrase"riding shoot-gun" came from. Great episode Santee thank you Sir.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Yeah I was surprised when my grandfather told me. He had been a Blacksmith in the early 20th Century. He fixed several damaged barrels that way after trimming them. I think they wound up modified or full depending on the hub
Another cool video, with the audio-visual, perfect compatibility... Hey, if it's good enough for The Duke, what more is there to say? Thanks much, Santee. 🌞👏🏻👏🏻
They have 3 or 4 varieties. And yes, even with the Baker Shotgun, they are interchangeable. I have 2 Howdas in 20 and 28 gauge. The baker is single trigger, but in rifled 50 and 20 gauge. It's awesome!
I have a 1906 riverside 16ga hammer gun that i use in S.A.S.S matches and i love it and its a coach gun as well ... As always another great video and I'll be looking forward to seeing the next one... As always God Bless and be Safe ... Don E. aka JDHawkins in Denver Colorado
Great episode as always! Quick somewhat unrelated question if you can answer it. . Was the west back then already known as the wild west, or is that a more modern phrase?
I have an old American brand 12ga shotgun which was the first gun I ever fired, at age 10.It came very close to knocking me down, which would have happened if my dad had not caught me.I fired it as an an adult and it still had quite a kick than is partially absorbed by its substantial weight. I would think with an sawed off scattergun in 12 GA a two hand forward leaning shooting position would be prudent.
Hello! Don't know if this is nit-picky but not every double barrel shotgun is a coach gun! Coach guns are usually double barrel shotguns with a shortened barrel around 20 inches to make them more wieldy when on a stage.
I always thought the sawed off shotgun to be a protable version of the double barrel shotgun, there's just something cool about holding it with one hand like a normal revolver or just having it in a holster.
“Wyatt Earp hit Curly Bill with both barrels simultaneously and nearly cut him in half”. Not sure who to give props to for that quote but I did hear that
I like how The Duke tells Mississippi to "keep that gun pointed at this table, both barrels." "Well, John, it's a double barrel and both barrels point at the same spot."
I have used a muzzleloading sawed-off shotgun as a Confederate Guerrilla a few times during living history events. 2 loud booms and a lot of smoke. Can you do a video on the 1872 Open Top Colt?
Fun fact the main reasons sonoff shotguns and short-barreled rifles were added to the National Firearms Act is they originally wanted to ban machine guns as well as handguns they thought Midas well ban short barreled rifles and shotguns as well so people don't use it as a loophole with pistols then they removed the pistols from their proposed bill but capped the son of shotguns and short-barreled rifles and then at the very end tacked on suppressors
Santee, a very short, two barreled shotgun with a pistol grip is called a "lupara" (roughly, "for the wolves") in Italian and were used since the XIX century as exactly what it says on the tin; it was the kind of gun a shepherd would carry to protect the sheep.
1:37 A "rabbit-ear" boxlock. Don't see too many of those. They're usually either "rabbit-ear" sidelocks or hammerless boxlocks. 2:22 They skimped on the reload animation. Should be two different reload animations depending on whether one or both rounds have been fired. S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl does it right. 2:59 That one's extra-short. Looks like the hammers aren't cocked. Also, it looks a lot like the custom jobber from 'Desperado'.
I've been looking for info on the sawnoff from El Dorado since I 1st saw the film as a teen. Seems like the gun from the film just up and disappeared and I can't find much more on it than what you see in the film.
Actually, with the percussion versions they were widely used in Southern Cavalry. Known as a 'Baker Shotgun'. Prior to that, going back into the 1700's you had the 'Howdah Pistol'. Used for safari hunting in Africa. During the Civil War era, many southern soldiers had brought their shotguns from home but because of barrell length, they often cut them down to 14 inches and sometimes shorter. You're welcome. 😁
@bigblue6917 they were also popular with the Arizona Rangers, volunteers from the confederate territory of Arizona who fought for the south as far east as the red river campaign in Louisiana. Their favored long gun was a double barrel shotgun loaded with buck and ball. They tended to keep their barrels long though, unlike cavalry who would trim the barrels as they got dented easily and the shorter length on horseback makes it far more wieldly and maneuverable
"Yeah, they sent the tax man, I lost my job and you got hooked on Oxycodone. They shut the lights off, they took the car and I bought a sawed off shotgun"
While some version of this formidable weapon have been in use for hundreds of years-from the blunderbuss carried by Captains of merchant ships who were determined not to be boarded-to the trench guns of WWI which, while technically not “sawed-offs” they did fulfill the same function: Bring as much force to bear in a confined space.
I'm curious how common paper cartridges were in the old west, given how many people were coming in from all over the country who may have brought older weapons with them
1:56 If you tell yourself _"Well, two hundred dollars is a lot, but still somewhat affordable"_ bear in mind that the year this law was written, gold was around $35 an ounce. That $200 tax stamp for a each gun amounted to almost six ounces of gold back then! The law was written like that, with an exorbitant yet flat tax, and never took inflation into account.
I have to say that I thought that using a sawn off shotgun was only a Hollywood thing. So it is interesting to know that they actually did exist back then. As for games you can get a sawn off shotgun in Fallout 3 along side a double barrelled shotgun. In 18th century England people who had to travel by coach would sometimes hire a guard to ride with them. As well as a couple of flintlock pistols the guard would often carry a short barrelled blunderbuss, the barrel length was about that of a sawn off shotgun, as this would be easier to use when firing out of the window of the coach at the local highwayman. Though what effect it had on the ears of those inside was never mentioned. I get the feeling there was a lot of shouting.
They were most certainly _not_ a Hollywood invention. A very short, two barreled shotgun with a pistol grip is called a "lupara" (roughly, "for the wolves") in Italian and were used since the XIX century as exactly what it says on the tin; it was the kind of gun a shepherd would carry to protect the sheep.
I have always wanted a double barrel shot gun, for some reason. Even a .410 model, seems like it would be a handy size. Why is it, when they are Over - Under configuration, the price triples? Thanks for the video!
Loved the goats at the end. Cute little kids! Ha. Okay, I own a cumbersome Chinese made coach gun in 20 gauge. It is fun. My granddaughters can shoot clay pigeons all day with this because of the wide open pattern. There is literally ZERO choke. Still, it's fun. Thanks again Santee, for a fun episode.
Cabela’s used to sell a Howdah Pistol. Basically a short barreled shotgun. Hmm, sounds like the history and tradition is to make your own short barrel conversions.
John Wayne telling James to keep that shotgun pointed at this table…both barrels…like one barrel could be pointed somewhere else and the table. I always chuckle at that line. Great video Santee thank you.
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Great idea for a new weapon; the duckfoot multi barrel sawn off shotgun!
I believe he was just letting him know to use both barrels if they try anything. It also lets the ones at the table know that they would catch both barrels if they try anything.
I recently discovered your channel, and I Love it. But I refuse to subscribe, because I know if I do- I will become addicted. And if there is one thing I hate, it's good old fashioned addiction.
@@tomspaur3789 There’s nothing wrong with feeling the same way as millions of other folks. I respect your honesty and thank you.
Been in love with sawed-off shotguns since I saw Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior over 40 years ago.
Me too.
A lion , snake, and dog walk into a bar , the bartender pulls out a shotgun and says
“How the heck did that snake just walk in here?”
Don't give up the day job!
That snake has always been a pain in the asp.
He just escaped from New York
@@PhantomObserver The scale of this one is getting just to much.
So long as it's not a lion, a witch and a wardrobe he shouldn't be that surprised.
in the early 1900s the Ithaca gun company produce a limited number of factory made 20ga double barrel pistols called the Auto and Burglar gun 10 to 12 inch barrels, "saw grip" and a holster - outlawed by the NFA in 1934
NFA--No Fun Allowed
@@tomjackson4374 NFA = Not Freaking American
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They weren’t outlawed. They now need a federal license, (Tax Stamp.)
@@George-tz1cv The feds use the word "restricted"
"Give Doc the shotgun. They'll be less apt to get nervy if he's on a street howitzer."
Actually, they gave Doc the shotgun because the real Doc was a terrible shot with a revolver.
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Doc: proceeds to instigate the shootout
I don't think the one in the movie at least was sawed off.
@@dn88s It wasn't. Technically "shortened" as a messenger gun.
Duke said to keep the gun pointed at this table. Both barrels. I'm not sure how he could only point one barrel at the table!
Great video!
-Desert Rat Rick
Thank You!
"Awright, I got two barrels! Who wants the first?" "Hello Bob," Billy Bonney to Bob Olinger.
"Hold my beer," said Curly. Regrettably, those were his last words.
Yep
Best $1.80 I ever spent.
@@ianfinrir8724 Great line.
@@ianfinrir8724 Keep the change Bob..
Currently watching this episode from the range at the 2024 WA State SASS Championship. Thanks for the morning’s entertainment Santee, see ya on down the trail.
Does that mean there might be video evidence of this event sometime in the future ?? 😁😁
You're welcome Jed.
I did a lot of filming this weekend@@oregonoutback7779 so, of course!
I am 60 years old I have grown up with everything cowboy My brother and me used to quick draw up with we grew up with everything cowboy we never hurt nobody but we love that lifestyle so I'm so happy to see somebody trying to keep the Spirit alive
Thank you so much!
I love that you showed a scene from El Dorado that was filmed at Old Tucson Studio. The last time I was there, that location (inside the gun store) was still there. 🥰
Still is. Thanks!
A "Street Sweeper" is a must for any collection. Henery makes some really nice short barrel guns.
Some nice ones, yes.
In Cormac McCarthy's delightful childrens novel Blood Meridian, there is a scene were one of the gang wants a gunsmith to saw the barrels off a fine English shotgun, the gunsmith refuses to do it out of disgust at the idea of wrecking such a nice piece. If you haven't read it you simply must, the audiobook is excellent if you prefer that format.
Thank You! Violent story!
Thank You again for another educational and informative video on the Old West life. I appreciate all the work you put into trying to bring our history into this world of over-used technology. The sawed-off shotgun was a weapon everyone saw in ANY old or new western film or tv series. Keep up the great videos. And always, Happy Trails To You! 🤠🔫🐎
Very much appreciate that comment!
This show was a real BLAST! Thank You Santee! DaveyJO In Pennsylvania
I'm getting the feeling this video is turning into a punfeast
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I used to have an 1870s Belgian double barrel sawed off that looked just like the one in the thumbnail. I loved that gun & wish I still had it.
Very neat!
A shotgun made prior to 1898 is exempt to NFA barrel restrictions
Brother Santee, Absolutely love the Old West Sawed-Off Shogun history. Thank you very much. You and Mrs. Pew Pew have a beautiful and blessed weekend.
Your Gunslinger Brother. Chubbeth Thunder
Much appreciated.
That shotgun scene from Open Range has to be one of my all time favorites, right down to the twitching leg 😱 I also loved Viggo's 8 gauge in Appaloosa. Very effective cannon, if you could handle the recoil 😁
Yes, recoil is a hurdle.
Open range is one of my favorites.
Your videos are over just too soon. I enjoy each and every one of them thank you so much. 🤠
You're welcome.
The Sawed-off Shotgun has been and always will be my favorite ... Great job Santee ! !
Thank You!
Great video as always! Another use for shotguns in the old west that I've come across is that the Texas Rangers specifically from the late 1830s through the War for Southern Independence used them to fight Comanche since the shortened barrel was easy to manage on horseback and since shotguns could take out multiple people in one blast and being double barrel you had 2 shot you didn't have to reload, it made them popular among those early Rangers and the Confederate Texas Cavalry units.
Cool!
Fascinating.
Thanx for including the shotgun from the museum in Willcox, Arizona in the video.
I want it!
@@ArizonaGhostriders Brazelton could probably arrange that.
And I was just contemplating sawing off my mossberg but have now decided to go ahead and buy a 20” barrel instead.
Great video as usual Santee!!
Thank You! 🤠
Another great video as always! Glad to know sawed-off were historically accurate. This video really brighten my day as I head to work keep up the amazing work!
Thank You!
Thanks Santee once again another good video this one is about sawed off shotgun barrels. The books I have read by researched authors, mentioned the Wells Fargo messengers used those type shotguns because, close to highwayman, better close range would almost cut person in half caused by both barrels same time. OUCH!!!-Kid Yuma
They were easier to maneuver too.
Fantastic episode Santee. Really cool to see the originals, especially with that bolstered one. Have a great weekend! Cheers!
Thank You!
You know somethin'? I really love your episodes. So much, I really wish they were bout twice as long.
Thank You!
American Gun Craft, 12 Ga. Shotgun Pistol, starting at $499. Barrel lengths from 6-11 inches.
Neat little muzzleloader, but not Old West-looking.
NAA North American Arms Bears Bark 12 ga
Sebru Super Shorty ( hard to find)
Moss berg Shockwave 12 ga
Almost forgot Churchill 512 side by side my personal favorite
It was nice to get to see a video about this subject. If anything, I remember seeing a western where someone had a sawn off shotgun in a holster on his hip.
You can carry one on each hip in the game Red Dead Redemption 2
yes
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I never really thought about this one. I’ll have to keep my eyes open for one on display during our travels. Great video Santee!
Thank You!
I might not own a sawed off sxs but I discovered an 1890's dump with also some civil war era suspender clips. But the dump reaches early 1890s to 1930. Most of the stuff is from early 1890- pre 1920. I also found parts to 1890's sxs 32 inch barrel one of the hammers intact, mechanism piece, trigger guard and 1890's shot up bucket and a shot up tin can! But my favorite tiny thing I found so far was a Tole Art Spittoon. Thank you and Deus Vult!
veryc fun
Few years ago Forgotten Weapons had an old west revolver shotgun that had been cut down to pistols size. My 1st thoughts were that the barrel and stocks could have been damaged, and it was simply a case of waste not want not.
Interesting... maybe!
I’ve got a CVA double 12 with 14 inch barrels. It’s a hoot! I recently found double rifle barrels for it in .50 cal.
Fun stuff!
I think Perdasoli arms offers a Calvary shotgun and they have a twenty bore howdah pistol. A load of #4 buck closely matches a short shot gun load.
Wear wrist support when shooting😊
They do. Muzzle loader.
I'm not much of a shotgun guy, but I do like my SxS coach gun! Very informative video Santee!
Thank You!
another awesome job , loved the shotgun with the holster thank you again
You're welcome
Thanx for including an explanation of the federal law about short barreled shotguns.
You're welcome. There's more detail, but that's the "Skinny"
This episode is a real blast! Love percussion shotguns!
YOWZA!
I bought a replica coach 12 gauge shotgun years ago after a Texas historian told me about them. Also had my grandfather's long barreled shotgun and a Mossberg pump.
Nice!
Hi santee thanks for dropping by really appreciate it here showing our love have a awesome week btw a great upload as always 👍
Thank you too
Awesome video! I've wanted one ever since I watched "The Bounty Killer" when I was a kid!
yeah!
Great Video, Santee - as always! Greetings from Germany.
Thank You!
What a great episode, but, it's a very rainy day out here in Missouri, so, no range day.
Sorry, pal.
Great video and thank you for the historical information on these old guns.
You're welcome
Hi Santee, I like my coach gun. Being short it fit right in for the guard on the stagecoach. I think that maybe we're the phrase"riding shoot-gun" came from. Great episode Santee thank you Sir.
You're welcome.
I love my riot gun, it is so handy. They used to rechoke the sawed off by sticking one barrel inside a wheel hub.
Interesting!
@@ArizonaGhostriders Yeah I was surprised when my grandfather told me. He had been a Blacksmith in the early 20th Century. He fixed several damaged barrels that way after trimming them. I think they wound up modified or full depending on the hub
Another fine episode, it was blast to watch.
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Gotta love a sawed off shotgun - they're always super powerful in video games
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Another cool video, with the audio-visual, perfect compatibility... Hey, if it's good enough for The Duke, what more is there to say? Thanks much, Santee.
🌞👏🏻👏🏻
You are very welcome
Pedersoli of Italy still makes "Howdah" style pistols. IIRC, they include being in 12 gauge.
Yep. Percussion, if I recall.
They have 3 or 4 varieties. And yes, even with the Baker Shotgun, they are interchangeable. I have 2 Howdas in 20 and 28 gauge. The baker is single trigger, but in rifled 50 and 20 gauge. It's awesome!
I have a 1906 riverside 16ga hammer gun that i use in S.A.S.S matches and i love it and its a coach gun as well ... As always another great video and I'll be looking forward to seeing the next one... As always God Bless and be Safe ...
Don E. aka JDHawkins in Denver Colorado
Thank You!
Great prop for the Hollywood bad guys, old as well as new. Great topic.
Thank You!
Awesome video Santee!!
Thank You!
@ArizonaGhostriders no problem buddy!!
Great episode as always! Quick somewhat unrelated question if you can answer it. . Was the west back then already known as the wild west, or is that a more modern phrase?
Buffalo Bill had his "Wild West" show, so yes....that was a term then
I have an old American brand 12ga shotgun which was the first gun I ever fired, at age 10.It came very close to knocking me down, which would have happened if my dad had not caught me.I fired it as an an adult and it still had quite a kick than is partially absorbed by its substantial weight. I would think with an sawed off scattergun in 12 GA a two hand forward leaning shooting position would be prudent.
Very cool!
Hello! Don't know if this is nit-picky but not every double barrel shotgun is a coach gun! Coach guns are usually double barrel shotguns with a shortened barrel around 20 inches to make them more wieldy when on a stage.
I don't think I said they were. In fact, I showed one that isn't a coach gun.
Yes, shortening the barrel made it more convenient to maneuver.
nah it was my bad I misheard, must’ve not been focusing when that part came up lol. You were referring to specifically messenger shotguns sorry!
@@archer18521 No problem.
I always thought the sawed off shotgun to be a protable version of the double barrel shotgun, there's just something cool about holding it with one hand like a normal revolver or just having it in a holster.
Punishing to shoot with one hand.
How about a video on the Mare’s leg?
I know it’s a TV show weapon, but that could be fun.
And thx again for all your vids. I just love them. ❤
Sure
Santee,
Good mornin' from Kentucky. Great episode, I really got a bang out of this one. 🤠
JT
HA! 🤠
Well, when you get a chance, will you please do a video about the weapons they did they use
I've got a whole playlist about them. firearms...check it out.
“Wyatt Earp hit Curly Bill with both barrels simultaneously and nearly cut him in half”. Not sure who to give props to for that quote but I did hear that
Tom Clavan?
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I like how The Duke tells Mississippi to "keep that gun pointed at this table, both barrels." "Well, John, it's a double barrel and both barrels point at the same spot."
Ha!
Nice!!! I have a paintball top break shotgun look alike. It’ll turn some heads especially when loaded with pepper balls!
ooooo!
I have used a muzzleloading sawed-off shotgun as a Confederate Guerrilla a few times during living history events. 2 loud booms and a lot of smoke. Can you do a video on the 1872 Open Top Colt?
Yes!
Another fantastic video Santee. I have a percussion cap shotgun for the western shows I do
Cool!
Fun fact the main reasons sonoff shotguns and short-barreled rifles were added to the National Firearms Act is they originally wanted to ban machine guns as well as handguns they thought Midas well ban short barreled rifles and shotguns as well so people don't use it as a loophole with pistols then they removed the pistols from their proposed bill but capped the son of shotguns and short-barreled rifles and then at the very end tacked on suppressors
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Cool video Santee!
Yeehaw! 🤠
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Santee, a very short, two barreled shotgun with a pistol grip is called a "lupara" (roughly, "for the wolves") in Italian and were used since the XIX century as exactly what it says on the tin; it was the kind of gun a shepherd would carry to protect the sheep.
I am aware of the Italian connection. Great history with these guns.
Thanks for the fun and informative videos.
You are welcome!!
Haha, I’ve spent sooooo much time in Valentine that I recognized that saloon piano in the beginning immediately 😅
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1:37 A "rabbit-ear" boxlock. Don't see too many of those. They're usually either "rabbit-ear" sidelocks or hammerless boxlocks.
2:22 They skimped on the reload animation. Should be two different reload animations depending on whether one or both rounds have been fired. S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl does it right.
2:59 That one's extra-short. Looks like the hammers aren't cocked. Also, it looks a lot like the custom jobber from 'Desperado'.
That's a Hollywood special. Probably been used in a number of films. Many of the guns we know and love have "been around"
Santee, I love the sawn off shotgun. I have a toy of one quick question how many wild west video games have you played
Probably about 10!
@ArizonaGhostriders have you played Red Dead 1
Thanks Santee! I just might have to get a black powder one.
Cool!
I've been looking for info on the sawnoff from El Dorado since I 1st saw the film as a teen. Seems like the gun from the film just up and disappeared and I can't find much more on it than what you see in the film.
Probably in a private collection.
I own and use several. Really like them when looking for wounded bears in the bush.
Wow!
Actually, with the percussion versions they were widely used in Southern Cavalry. Known as a 'Baker Shotgun'. Prior to that, going back into the 1700's you had the 'Howdah Pistol'. Used for safari hunting in Africa. During the Civil War era, many southern soldiers had brought their shotguns from home but because of barrell length, they often cut them down to 14 inches and sometimes shorter. You're welcome. 😁
Southern Cavalry meaning grey wearing traitors?
Did those Southerners bring the sawed-off shotgun to the Old West?
@@transatlanticdylan8229cry harder
I know they used their own shotguns but not that they cut them down. Thanks.
@bigblue6917 they were also popular with the Arizona Rangers, volunteers from the confederate territory of Arizona who fought for the south as far east as the red river campaign in Louisiana. Their favored long gun was a double barrel shotgun loaded with buck and ball.
They tended to keep their barrels long though, unlike cavalry who would trim the barrels as they got dented easily and the shorter length on horseback makes it far more wieldly and maneuverable
Hey Santee, whats the name of the background music you used? I heard it near the end of one of your vídeos.
It plays at 1:25
I use a few things. Most are from the TH-cam Creator Music site.
Another great episode Santee! Always enjoyed using it in RDR2.
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"Yeah, they sent the tax man, I lost my job and you got hooked on Oxycodone. They shut the lights off, they took the car and I bought a sawed off shotgun"
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So where the ones like coach guns actually cut down, or they made some short ones? I’ve always wondered how many of these shorties were modified.
Cut down by gunsmiths likely.
Very cool Santee. Thanks and G’day from the land down under
You're welcome!
While some version of this formidable weapon have been in use for hundreds of years-from the blunderbuss carried by Captains of merchant ships who were determined not to be boarded-to the trench guns of WWI which, while technically not “sawed-offs” they did fulfill the same function: Bring as much force to bear in a confined space.
Yep!
I'm curious how common paper cartridges were in the old west, given how many people were coming in from all over the country who may have brought older weapons with them
I happen to have a video about that!
1:56 If you tell yourself _"Well, two hundred dollars is a lot, but still somewhat affordable"_ bear in mind that the year this law was written, gold was around $35 an ounce. That $200 tax stamp for a each gun amounted to almost six ounces of gold back then!
The law was written like that, with an exorbitant yet flat tax, and never took inflation into account.
Right
Hell yeah like the background reminding of old tuscon
You guessed it. That's the place.
@@ArizonaGhostriders very cool, fun spot indeed
Good morning Arizona Ghost Riders. Definitely enjoyed this episode. Your friend Ted from Texas. Stay safe and always do your ABCs
Thanks, you too!
Can you tell some guns that they used in the new movie horizon? Kevin constar created. I would like to know what kind of guns they used in there
Haven't seen it yet
Great video Santee
Much appreciated, Led.
I have to say that I thought that using a sawn off shotgun was only a Hollywood thing. So it is interesting to know that they actually did exist back then. As for games you can get a sawn off shotgun in Fallout 3 along side a double barrelled shotgun.
In 18th century England people who had to travel by coach would sometimes hire a guard to ride with them. As well as a couple of flintlock pistols the guard would often carry a short barrelled blunderbuss, the barrel length was about that of a sawn off shotgun, as this would be easier to use when firing out of the window of the coach at the local highwayman. Though what effect it had on the ears of those inside was never mentioned. I get the feeling there was a lot of shouting.
They were most certainly _not_ a Hollywood invention. A very short, two barreled shotgun with a pistol grip is called a "lupara" (roughly, "for the wolves") in Italian and were used since the XIX century as exactly what it says on the tin; it was the kind of gun a shepherd would carry to protect the sheep.
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Good one, Santee!
Thanks!
I have always wanted a double barrel shot gun, for some reason. Even a .410 model, seems like it would be a handy size. Why is it, when they are Over - Under configuration, the price triples?
Thanks for the video!
Not suer why.
Over diners are more mechanically complex.
Can you do a video on your opinion on the miniseries lawman Bass Reeves, if you’ve seen it
Seen a couple episodes. Gonna try
Hello friend! A question in what year did percussion cartridges begin to be used in the West!? Thank you friend,have a great weekend
Probably about the late 1830s. I know we see them at the 1848 Californian gold rush.
@ArizonaGhostriders Thanks amigo, I thought that it came around during or after the Civil War!! Thanks again
You touched on a common misconception- The spread doesn’t widen when you saw it off. (It would effect the force/distance though).
Yup!
Love em ever since I saw Gator.
Oh yeah!
Loved the goats at the end. Cute little kids! Ha. Okay, I own a cumbersome Chinese made coach gun in 20 gauge. It is fun. My granddaughters can shoot clay pigeons all day with this because of the wide open pattern. There is literally ZERO choke. Still, it's fun. Thanks again Santee, for a fun episode.
They are fun guns!
Love the short, dbl barrel shotgun!
They are pretty neat, eh?
Thanks
You're welcome
Another blast from the past! Thank you santee. 🧋
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Cabela’s used to sell a Howdah Pistol. Basically a short barreled shotgun. Hmm, sounds like the history and tradition is to make your own short barrel conversions.
Other companies still make one, I think.
This was great, thanks!
You're welcome