Old West Myth Vs. Reality: Firearms
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- Old West Myth vs. Reality: Firearms
**Correction: Quigley shot a .45-110 (smaller diameter bullet).**
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***Correction: Quigley shot a .45-110 (smaller diameter bullet).***
Love that movie.
Yep, we sure get used to no recoil when doing our gunfights for the audiences we perform for. There's quite a bit of difference in those and the real thing. Hollywood makes it look easy and we do the same, but the truth is, a full powered round can be punishing. I still recall the kiss on the eyebrow that a scoped .308 Norma Magnum hunting rifle gave me shooting it the first time. The owner, a WWII Ranger in the Pacific theater who later homesteaded in Alaska told me, "It kills everything in front of and mames everything behind.".
Yes, wow a .308 is a gi round.
@@ArizonaGhostriders And the M-1 Garand shot the .30-06, which kicked harder.
Although, the ranger in question may have used an M-1 Carbine, which kicked a lot less.
@@bigbill2444 yes, he fondly spoke of the Garand.
try the .358 Norma Magnum here is a real fun gun to shoot. A killer on both ends.
I own mosin nagant made in 1942 and there is no doubt it saw the action it kicks like mule too.....I called the ambassy of Ukraine told them that I would volunteer to join the legion and take this rifle back to the battlefield with all the ammo I have.......they said no guns across the border.....so the old mosin will stay in the safe and shoot maybe one day on the range if I get call up papers and will return......
Never forgot the first time I shot a full match with BP cartridges - no breeze whatsoever and using full power loads. Had to literally pause to find the targets! Brings a whole new light to those shootouts that happened in saloons and why everyone would be hitting the deck. I read somewhere that due to the non-uniformity of commercial ammo, folks would re-prime the brass, load black powder and sink a round ball into the case, and was known as a "Cavalry Load" (dunno if this is the truth or not). Also know how your shoulder feels; the 50-140 has a stout kick! Thanks again Santee!
Yeah, it didn't really hurt that much. I was just acting. I only shot about 4 rounds. Great stuff, tho
@@ArizonaGhostriders Fun story; first buffalo rifle match I went to, I had an '86 Trapdoor and was waiting for the first shot to go downrange. 50 feet to one side, someone was popping rounds out of an AR-15. A few seconds later, the hammer of God sounded as someone lit off a 50-90. I looked over and saw the massive cloud of smoke going downrange, and immediately yelled out "I gotta get me one a those!"
You are likely referring to a “gallery load” that was load with a light charge for practice.
The Carbine load was .45-70-405,
Original military load was .45-70-500, but being on horseback and cavalry soldiers usually being on the smaller, lighter side, tended to knock them off the back of the horse.
There was also a “sentry”load that used 3 round balls stacked on top of each other for short range shooting similar to a shotgun with double aught buckshot, as well as a few other special purpose uses, such as used in some officer’s model and target model 1873 Springfields.
Great episode Santee. True about the lack of recoil in movies. Reenactments are the same. Our cannon doesn't really recoil with blanks. Hard to give that illusion. Keep up the great videos. 👍
I'd say it is hard to that with a cannon. LOL!
However, you have to try. These "Cannon Actors" can be difficult to work with.
@@ArizonaGhostriders too funny Santee! Thanks brother!
Love the video. I couldn't say it better myself. Its fun to shoot a old gun . it's really fun shooting proper antique loads. And add that together you get a small understanding of life back them
Snapper needs a Sharps rifle
Lol makes since when we last talked you were shooting a sharps
There's something magical about it.
Not sure if there's still a waiting list for a Shiloh Sharps. They are pricey.
@@squiblift2019 Yeah. Too rich for my blood.
@@ArizonaGhostriders when I used to have that kind of money laying around there was a 36-month wait for a Shiloh Sharps. Now there's no wait and I don't have that sort of money laying around.
Great job Santee. I like shooting steel when shooting black powder long guns. This allows me to hear the target ring (I hope) even if I can't see through the smoke. Stay safe. 👍
Yeah! I found that out. Lotta fun.
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Thank you Santee for keeping the Old West alive and making me laugh !
You're welcome.
I shot a few cowboy matches with a pair of birdshead sheriff model Ruger Vaqueros loaded with 260 grain bullets over a full 40 grains of 3f. Had to use a compression die to get the powder down far enough to fully seat the bullet, and it basically crushed it down to a solid cylinder like the pellets of BP substitute for modern muzzleloaders. The smoke and blast from those loads out of those short barrels was something to behold and recoil was...noticeable. Another factor they don't show in the movies is how hot the guns get when rapid-firing black powder. The forend wood on my 45 Colt model 92 actually charred during the Custer's Last Stand side match at Summer Range!
Wow!
One of my pards in the Circle D Rangers had a very good Matthew Quigley impression complete with a Sharps rifle. When he lets loose with that thing, it sounds like a cannon going off!
Don't doubt it.
I never could get over the westerns where someone would take cover behind an overturned poker table or those swinging saloon doors.
Right!
Those smooth bore muskets have a special place in my heart. Great video as always!
Mine too!
If you are talking about the .54 cal Hawken, it has a rifled barrel, likely with 1turn in 66 or 72 inches twist to stabilize a round lead ball.
Another great episode. I'm currently working on a single action rig for a gentleman with a crossdraw and fold over holster on a ranger belt. I hope he enjoys it as much as I enjoyed making it.
That's awesome and I bet he will.
Another great episode Santee! Shooting historical firearms is so much fun. And just a heads up, I shared Rawhide Western Town with someone who's been running local gaming conventions up here in the Phoenix area, and now he's looking at it for a western themed gaming convention, so we're hoping to do it early next year, fingers crossed. Ideally, we're talking gaming with anything with a western theme, from board games to RPGs, plus all the stuff the venue offers. I'll keep you updated!
Yeah, keep me posted.
4:45 BEST. EDIT. IN. THE. HISTORY. OF. THIS. CHANNEL.
Thank you!
Leave it to ole Santee to always give us more *bang* for the buck. The load differential between several of our ol westian shooters is alot more different than one would think. The perfect example would be my 1880 Gold Hibbard 12ga coachgun I call Grumpy. The old 12ga loads were a black powder load and would shoot smoothly from her damascus double barrels which IS NOT the case with modern 12ga loads. A modern 12ga load would actually blow the barrels into not so pretty damascus orchids. When using her in reenactments I use a blank 12ga load I have to order from a company in Texas which is still very affordable at $65 per 50.
Thanks Santee for yet another...explosive...video and I'm raising a shot of Bulleit Bourbon to a speedy recovery for your poor shoulder. HAHAHAHA
Just remember....Grumpy is mine if you get squeezed to death by an anaconda.
@@ArizonaGhostriders 😆...Yes Santee I remember. Things get much tighter around here I may start considering re-homing her and the twins. Lol
Great episode and I love the humor on this one! It is interesting to think of the recoil not being there in the films but the impact sure is. I think anyone who has ever hunted understands it.
Thank you!
As usual..mighty informative and entertaining. I noticed a long time ago that actor Buck Taylor, when on Gunsmoke, always added the proper recoil motion when firing blanks. After that, I became aware of how many other western actors didn't, "go thru the motion".
It shouldn't be a deal breaker for anyone when watching a western, but it is interesting to note.
Not showing recoil ain't nothing. I've noticed western movies where you could see power lines in the distance. And all those white faced cows on cattle drives that didn't exist back then. Also guns that hadn't been invented yet in Civil War Era movies. It's fun to watch for. My grandfather made a game of it when we'd watch TVwesterns.
Bout a year ago i shot my first Hawken .50. It was a Thompson Center and i was coaxed into it since I had previously shot a .45 Kentucky rifle and didn't care for how akward it felt in my hand, though the recoil was managable. The charge was 150 Gr equivelant by volume of Pyrodex RS. I was intimidated but pulled the trigger and surprised that it kicked less than my 8MM Mauser or 30-06. Fell in love with Black Powder from that day forth
Fun rifle to shoot.
Good episode, guys. Love shooting my “cowboy” guns. Thank you for doing them justice. Another time try the Walker Colt. Mine is a clone since I’m not rich but it only lacks wheels to be an artillery piece!
Heavy sucker!
Wild bill used 1858 Remington what he used at gunfight in Springfield mo, first quick draw fight against Dave Tutt
Actually, eyewitness accounts make it a Colt Navy and Hickock drew it and rested it on his arm to steady the shot.
As you guys was shooting a .44-40 rifle, I thought you might have had a .44-40 revolver to compare recoil on both. BTW I was laughing my head off when Santee was sent flying,very good. Keep going!!!!
Thanks. I think Twygg may have had a .44 in his stash there.
When I was cowboy action shooting I had both a 44-40 rifle and pistol. I reloaded them to SASS specs. Miss those days. BTW the female shooters were deadly with their weapons 👍
Very good video lol that sharps has some sharp Recoil !!
Yes it does!
Really liked the verbal reaction to being coached how to shoot.🤣That's what everybody says.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Wow that editing for Santee flying away was awesome!
Thanks so much!
Unfortunately, the ranges I shoot at don't allow black powder.
But I would love to shoot black powder some time.
Great vid, as always. Thanks.
Gotta find a well-used chunk o' desert like us
Another good one Santee! Where you been Dan?
When a pat on the shoulder becomes the Vulcan Death Grip.
LOL!
Great video Santee! You played the recoil even better than old Jimmy Caan! I just about shot coffee out my nose!!
LOL! Thanks.
Really got a bang out of that one you really smoked it.
It's a hit!
Wow the amount of gunpowder I did not know that it was that much. Not to mention the fire and brimstone about to come down for coffee LOL
LOL!
I owned a war surplus 8mm Mauser for a while. Shooting that thing was a blast!
Nice!
Keep working on that mustache Santee you're looking more like Quigley everyday!
LOL!!!!
A very nice video once again ! Thank you for all your work Santee
My pleasure!
good stuff. Santee flying was really funny.
Glad you enjoyed it
First time ever watching this channel loved everything EXCEPT statement about not knocking someone off a horse or over backwards with a shotgun, as a API-war vet SPEC-OPS - I can tell you for sure from experience in CQB that a 12ga. shot will most DEFINITELY KNOCK your target (human) off there feet and over backwards...
Thanks, Jerry. I've gotten info from cops and soldiers who said differrently on the matter, but I guess it depends on the situation.
@@ArizonaGhostriders 3" - 12ga / hmm ,,,, try this set a punching bag up & at 7 yds hit it with double 00 buckshot high chest & see if it don't blow over backwards,,,most COPS don't have enough real world experience to be consider a reliable source of info, & I kinda figure 26 years in the field for a MARINE CORPS SPEC-OP unit kicking doors in Afghanistan, Pakistan & Iraq and being embedded with 2 different NAVY SEAL TEAMS - I probably got more experience than your average guy who has VERY limited experience....
4:44 ~ Okay, obviously that one's a myth. But a very entertaining one. 😆
Glad you enjoyed it.
We still have grandpa’s old Winchester is in 45-90
That is a treasure.
I just realized, you used the take where I winked at the camera during the intro. LOL!
Winker!
Fun video Santee! I agree with the recoil. I like a heavier gun or longer barrel to reduce recoil. Also the 44-40 was a retail cartridge but the Army cartridge 45 LC was a thing, and was in public domain. Thanks for the info, always fun to watch and much to learn. Our next SASS match long range won't have a 54 cal rifle but I'll be shooting 45/120!
Woohooo!
So Santee, got a coupla questions.
When did cartridges become common enough to get cap-n-ball firearms modified to fire 'em?
And in terms of recoil, how does a cartridge-fire fair to it's cap-n-ball counterpart?
Addendum: Even when cartridge was the norm, was it seen with either economic aside glances by those who didn't see a need. Or was it seen with some suspicion (with a bit of "already got these why we wanna spend more money?" economic factor), in the same way as US cops stuck with their revolvers?
I have a video on cartridge conversions. Check it out.
Im new to B.P. and only own one B.P. gun it is a Traditions .50 cal. Kentucky rifle
My first shot was a hip shot 50 grains of B.P. substitute
recoil was very light
Second shot was shouldered and aimed normally 60 grains of B.P. substitute recoil was about the same as a .410 shotgun (note 60 grains of B.P. substitute is a light loadand not suitable for deer hunting)
3rd.Shot was 80 grains of
B.P. substitute which is equivalent to 100 grains of true B.P. and is the highest reccomended load for a traditions kentucky rifle the recoil on that is slightly more than a lightweight single shot 12 ga. Shotgun and is plenty suitable for deer hunting
I love my kentucky rifle it will never leave my collection and will continue to be used every muzzle loader season here in ga. I also intend to get a hawken rifle as well
And an 1851 navy and several others
Yes i am an enthusiast now
Congrats on the acquisition and welcome to the world of the Holy Black!
@@ArizonaGhostriders Thank you sir
My interest in B.P. firearms actually started when i saw jeremiah johnson i think i was about 8 when i first saw it
Back then i didnt know about traditions kit guns
As i grew older i grew up and developed other interests i didnt forget about B.P. but i just sortve figured id never own a hawken rifle thought they would be realky expensive well life and work went on then i got the internet had for quite some time then got to watching different gun videos then on a whim
I searched hawken rifle not knowing there would be hundreds of videos to watch but i eventually came to hawken kit gun
Confused and curious i clicked on the video to discover that it was a traditions kit man immediately got off youtube and went searching for a place to buy a hawken i didnt buy a hawken though i bought a kentucky rifle
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Hey, Santee! How about the air rifles that Lewis and Clark took with them on their expedition?
We can talk about those at some point.
Great video. Keep ‘em coming.👍👍
Thanks, will do!
First time I fired my Springfield cavalry carbine repro my shoulder hated me the next few hours for sure!
I bet!
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Thanks pard
You're welcome.
I know the recoil of a .54 cal Hawkins rifle. What rifle I dreaded was a french 8 mm label mannlicher berthier carbine. Talk about recoil, I wonder how legionnaires and others could shoulder this in a firefight.
When I was a young lad, I fired my father's Japanese Arisaka rifle. It had some serious recoil for a twelve year old. I wondered the same thing.
4:45 😆 😂 🤣
Way to go!
Interesting and entertaining video. Thanks for posting! Having once tried a "375 Magnum" round on a shooting day, and experienced the serious recoil of that round in a revolver, I seriously doubt anyone would have had the dexterity to shuffle a pack of cards after a "Cowboy Western" film shoot out for several days afterwards. Interestingly enough, "Maddie Ross" manages to fire a Colt Dragoon .44 revolver in the film "True Grit" and it knocks her off her feet. However, when the .44 calibre bullet arrives at the target, (Tom Chainey or Chambers....) travelling at about a thousand feet per second, he is almost completely uninjured, except for a broken rib! In reality, he'd have had a fatal injury, if he had been hit in the torso. Ah the movies, you have to take it all with a grain of salt! Or sometime a whole shovel full of salt! 😜😜.
Gotta love it. Thanks.
I've always noticed the lack of recoil in movies. It's glaring.
Yes!
Suggestion for a myth vs reality video: riding a horse at full gallop. How long could they do it ?
Excellent. Thanks!
Well apparently you are recoil shy Santee….if you weren’t then you are now
Yes, Slick. It appears so!
My first handgun is an 1851 Navy Pietta .36. Takes forever to load but fun. In recent years I have gotten into black powder loading for my cartridge19th century guns instead of easy smokeless. .45 Colt, .45-70 Gov’t, .38 Long Colt and .44 WCF. All I can say is: once you shoot black, you never go back. Putting a .45 Colt smokeless factory or even reload into my old west pistols is lame now.
It's a true thing. Black powder is the way to go.
Thought 50-70 in a Springfield trapdoor was the original....at least with the Military...love shooting my 1866 Allin conversion....Shoe in SW Oregon
Cool!
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Please do make one recoil reality on with colt 45 or any other handgun
Well, I showed it in this video. I will do one in the futre on reality of shootouts and will mention recoil in that.
playing hunt showdown and recognizing that so many of the guns in the game are like.. reimagined western guns but made to fit in the games universe, love western gunsss
Cool!
When I was a young teen, my older brothers dared me to shoot my daddy's double-barreled shotgun, both triggers at the same time... I showed them I wasn't scared.... woke up the next morning with my head tilted to the side.... that was the same day I had my first Chiropractors visit !!!
Wow!! But you did it.
Great Video .
Thank You!
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I shot CAS until guns had to be tricked out, the leather was wild even for hollywood and ammo was weak as grandpa's prostate.
HAHA!
Not to throw no sand in your works there Santee but I am pretty sure Quigly was a .45/110 Sharps. I seem to remember when he has the guy reload his bullets he said something like the same as the British.455. I own a .45/70 Marlin and it does have a lot or recoil but very manageable. With the combination of price, availability and recoil that's a good match for me. I would love a Shilo Sharps but I would have to sell a body part that I am still using so it's out of my price range. Oh well.
He was. I pinned a correction and a note as well in the description field when it was first pointed out to me.
Don't recall now what I shot, I was a young adult and it was a friend's gun. I weighed about 115lbs. I'd pull the trigger and almost get knocked on my butt. I'd catch my balance, and do the same.
When the gun was empty, I handed it back to him and told him I was going to go look for my shoulder.
Thing I look for in a lot of the old western TV shows is, could they really ride a horse? I'm amazed at the ones who can't.
Funny story!
Some fellas could ride really well.
@@ArizonaGhostriders true, but others could just barely stay on the horse.
That Ol Sharps Must have a Triple Load in it Santee 😄
Maybe!
Correction: Matthew Quigley stated in the movie that his rifle fired a .45 caliber paper patched bullet with 110 gr of powder, i.e. 45-110 and not 50-110.
Yep, there's been a correction in the description field and a pinned comment about it. Thanks.
Hey santee! I would love a video on gum in the old west! Sincerely, an aspiring old west reenactor.
Noted! Lemme chew on it some more.
Me too !!! laughed my LMAO. May be one of the funniest things I ever saw on Y-Tube
Thanks.
man i love these videos if only they were longer ;-;
Thanks!
So black smoke is a detail Rockstar missed in RDR2
Some of the guns in RDR2 were shooting smokeless powder, given the turn of the century.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Oh! Thanks for the information.
The movie shooters who appear to throw the bullet out of the gun by snapping it forward make me laugh.
It's fun classic movie stuff
I thought it was gonna be another dumb video, but turned out to be quite entertaining. I wanna see more from you all.
Thanks.
Awesome Video, More please. I'll shoot my 45-70 govt. And a couple of 1858s and 1860s conversions. Love the old, old western firearms. Would love to see if you can scrounge up an 1860 Henry. Talk about history.
Maybe one day
Try a 45 70 government next
I have. Much easier on the recoil.
nice video SANTEE let em kick
Yes
The issue isn't with man winning once in a while, it's in the desire to win all the time.
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The inaccuracy with which firearms are portrayed by Hollywood has always irked me. I've been watching a lot of the old westerns lately and even back then they did it. I saw a guy on Wagon Train the other day with what was clearly a modern double action S&W.
Yep. Even in classics like Shane you'll see they swapped out S & W double actions during the quick draw at the end.
Tombstone was a great movie but Val Kilmer shooting both his six shooters shot off more then 12 rounds at the OK corral shootout!! Not quite believable!!
Then he lent them to Kevin Costner for him to use in Open Range. LOL!
@@ArizonaGhostriders That's right, those are some magical guns! Lol
Cowboy action shooting with powder puff loads should be considered cheating IMO.
They don't view it that way, but yeah!
Don't watch old western fast draws in slow motion. Sometimes that first shot goes off in the ceiling. I shot an Remington Rolling Block carbine in 45-70. That iron butt plate was much worse than the 92 44-40. Shooting that carbine from a moving horse would not be successfuful for me unless right on top of the target.
Still a fun one to shoot!
6:30 where is that clip from?
Wyatt Earp
Great times huh
It was very fun.
What did you bring to shoot santee?
A Colt Single Action Army. 3rd Generation.
@@ArizonaGhostriders cool
Always annoys me when they sell squibs as “cowboy “ loads.
I guess there's a lot of controversy over that in SASS
Well, I’ve never fired a .50 Sharps. Nor do I have any idea how many rounds are fired in a match.
But, the first (and only) time I went dove hunting with 12 gauge Mossberg 500 imbued me with a lifelong respect for birds. Leave those damned little things alone🤬
HAHA!
Hay santee did you shoot a colt 45?
Many times.
@@ArizonaGhostriders cool
Couldn’t stop laughing when Santee went flying off. Good thing I had my coffee ☕️ sitting down. Great video. Keep ‘em coming.
Thank you!
@@ArizonaGhostriders I had a laugh at that one as well. Not really THAT bad, but you'd better pull that stock in tight. LOL. The 50-90 was more than enough for me! Pulling the trigger is like launching a bus.
I have a 44 magnum marlin lever action. It has more recoil than one would expect from a pistol round. Maybe due to fast burning pistol powder. Also have a 300 winmag, more of a heavy slower push than the snappy 44.
I have a colts 3rd mod. Dragoon revolver in .44 cal. I usually shoot 40 grains of 3F and a wonder wad and a pure lead ball . I guess that makes it a 44-40 !
i choked on my soda 😂
I wish I could experience shooting some of those old west guns but unfortunately it's not really possible where I live so I'll settle for watching you and your friends have fun with them.
Hopefully one day. Come to visit and any number of folks will be happy to share with you
@@ArizonaGhostriders That´s one of the amazing things about the blackpowder and CAS communities. Ask and you will - most likely - be given. Sometimes you get offered without asking just because they are nice folks. I try to keep that spirit alive too.
If it's a case of gun laws preventing you then you could always settle for an airsoft or bb alternative, I own a Barra Schofield that shoots real well and feels like the real thing
@@williamh.bonney8662 Excellent option!
@@maxlutz3674 i don’t think it’s the black powder community but the gun community as a whole most people are chill unless you meet crazies or ruffians
But I’d prefer not being around those people when they have guns
You mentioned the smoke, that's another inaccuracy in the movies that anyone who has shot black powder will notice. Not nearly enough smoke depicted. If you fire a flintlock inside, everyone will be going outside. Great video. Always drink upstream from the herd.
I plan to do one inside one of the saloons where we depict just that. I will wear a cam on my glasses or hat to show the lack of visibility after the first shot.
I am a novice with firearms, but thoroughly enjoyed watching. All of you guys gave a great explanation, that I could keep up. Thanks 😊!
You're welcome.
That was some kick! Where'd ya land? You hit on my favorite topic Santee and the 1874 Sharps with a 34" barrel in 45-110 is one of my dream guns! Great video!
Thank you!
I landed in San Tan Valley somewhere near a Circle K
@@ArizonaGhostriders 🤣
@@ArizonaGhostriders you could have gotten a Polar Pop while you were there.
@@squiblift2019 LOL!!!
Good morning Santi. I definitely definitely enjoyed this episode. I love the fact that you were using accurate loads to shoot the guns. I also was excited to see that you were using your authentic weapons of the time. I definitely live American history and the history of the old west that you bring alive. Stay safe
Much appreciated!
enjoyed the video over morning coffee pards, can't wait to get back to the range with our group *LIKED* the video.
Thank you!
I was always a big fan of the 10 and 20 shot "six-shooters" in the Westerns from the 50's.
LOL!
I don't know if Santee did a video on this, but there was a reason for the Hollywood "miracle gun".
Film, and time, costs money, and having to slow down the action, especially in a low-budget production, while everyone is reloading every ten seconds, unless the script required it, of course, would be a waste of time AND film(and, therefore, MONEY)
One my favorite is Glen Campbell in “True Grit” shooting the turkey with a 50 caliber Sharps Carbine with absolutely no recoil!
As for “I don’t see how anyone could hit anything fanning the hammer” … your in good company, Wyatt Earp agreed.
Thanks for the extra info!
I've fired some guns that had pretty good recoil but nothing like the one Santee shot, must have been a cannon is disguise. I haven't laughed so much in ages, thanks!
You're welcome.
Santee’s editing sure is getting good! Great video!
Thanks!
I’m loving my black powder firearms. Take forever to load, but great fun to shoot.
Yes!
As a younger man, at the local range, a gentleman let my try his Ruger Super Blackhawk in .45 Colt, with handloads that were as hot as .44 Magnum. It wasn't the recoil per se that was problematic, it was the revolver rolling back in my hand and then the trigger guard slamming back down on my middle finger that hurt like hell, lol.
I'm still catching up on the older videos, Santee, but having a "blast" with every one! Hope your shoulder has recovered by now!
Thank You!
Great video - a little bit of info about the Quigley Down Under scene shown - they actually swapped barrels on the Sharps long range with an aluminum one for quite a bit of scenes due to the rifle being too heavy to man handle. Iraqveteran8888 has a video where he takes a look at the screen used sharps, a few years ago. I own a modern "copy" of that gun = and at ~15 pounds it gets real heavy real fast due to all the front weight from the 34" octagon barrel - but when shooting from a rest or using shooting sticks (which was the common way back then) it is an awesome experience. True West Magazine (made here in Cave Creek Az!) also has a great issue a few months ago about Tom Selleck , Quigley, and the guns.
It was definitely a heavy barrel. I had trouble keeping on target. Just not used to it.
Was half expecting some Eurobeat in the intro with Dave Rogers... Oh wait different Rodgers......
LOL!
I think I have a better hair stylist in the town barber shop than that singing guy.
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Dunno about that, but to each their own! :P
It's like when I was 12 shooting a 12ga for the first time...😬😖😫
Wow!
Think you could do a video on any European imports that made it to the West? I figure there had to be some Greener/Martini-Henry, Webley, and similar guns from across the ocean floating around in the old West.
Sure!