Sure those are not proper scientific experiments, but you're doing great for a non-scientist in a non-scientific setup. It's really good to see someone trying to somehow test the methods and hypothesis instead of just sharing what one believes, and I appreciate your effort.
yup, im working on getting better and better and accounting for more variables. Right now i have a lot of experiments going. one looking at water, i gotta start one with PH there just more and more varaibles as i go so im going to start writing stuff down and comming up with some kind of protocol or something but it will take time. Plus its hard to keep comming up with more and more cuttings lmao. im running out of vines
Somehow I think it's better this way because if the Photos would secrete growing hormone useful enough to use at home people would not use it in a scientific method anyway so this is closer to a practical application.
what I've learned from the swedish plant guys is, changing the water more frequently reduces risks of rot and accelerates root growth, a third jar which gets exchanged fresh water daily would have been superb. maybe another time^^
interestingly enough im literally almost done with an experiment where i have two jars, one i change the water everyday and one i never change the water and the never changed one is rooting like crazy and the one i change everyday is struggling lol. I have so many experiments and improvments i need to do tho. Its so exciting Like im not going to doubt the swedish plant guys results where changing water worked better for them. So this energized me to figure out what is all going on with all the variables in my setup. I hope by the end of 2022 I have a much better understanding on how we can all improve our propagations! Thank you got sharing this btw!
@@TechplantChannel oh my pleasure, I noticed with pothos in particular aswell, they simply dont care if I change the water or not. more sensitive plants seem to like it tho. the only plant I can't get to root at all is fatsia japonica. I have the spiderweb variant, but I'd assume they behave the same. any experience with these by any chance?^^ edit: swedes have very pure tap water btw, that could be a variable of some significance
Found your channel only today and I'm now binging. I wasn't interested in plants at all a year ago but I've really opened my eyes to it now - but I am totally clueless. Mostly I'm just testing things myself and learning as I go since most channels/websites just give contradictory advice anyway. Your channel is different and I love it, so thanks a bunch!
Glad to hear you are getting into plants! the way you are going about it is excellent! Keep testing stuff and dont even trust what im doing because god knows what other variables could be effecting my results! I hope you like to tinker around and experiment too because plants provide a lot of fun opportunities to do so!
@@TechplantChannel Thanks for replying! Yeah for sure I am loving the experimentation even though I get anxious to see results at times! :) Just like you though - I am afraid a plant activist group will storm into my apartment due to all the tiny cuttings that have perished in the name of "science".
Buy couple of plants ant try to propagate them, when you will complete the process and notice the new growth you will be satisfied and motivated to try more and while you are waiting for rooting just do some research about the plants you have, and remember! Failing is a first step in learning, so do not give up.
One day I decided to stick some garlic cloves in water because they had already started sprouting in my fridge. I was amazed at how fast the foliage and roots grew! I had some cuttings I’d had in water for months that just would not root. I had the idea to stick one of the growing garlic cloves in the water with one cutting and within the next 1-3 days, roots were finally starting! I had tried powdered rooting hormone weeks before with no luck, but the garlic worked. The cuttings were Monstera Adansonii, Rhaphidophora Tetrasperma, and Silver Satin Pothos.
This was interesting! Some thoughts and experiences: 1. My adansonii is actually a better rooter than my pothos. It roots like crazy and anything that I pair it with also roots really well. Also, I'm guessing once they start rooting, they're also producing rooting hormone, so... 2. I always thought of rooting hormone to be like unstable like other small complex molecules (no evidence backing my thought process, I don't even know molecularly what rooting hormone is). So basically my assumption is that it needs to be continuously (or semi continuously) produced. So I pair my hard to root plants with a pothos or an adansonii cutting (instead of just using spent water from these cuttings) to speed up the process. I do have a positive exp with method. And whenever I see something root faster than expected, I realize that oh it also had a pothos cutting so maybe that's why (and that's why I started pairing my cuttings with a pothos/ adansonii waaaay before I read about this online). 3. Like point 2, I'd try hard to root plants, cause then the difference might be appreciable? Snake plant leaf cuttings, aglaonema and dieffenbachia cuttings, try to pair those with pothos/ adansonii cuttings and see if the process speeds up. In this case what was the difference between the adansonii and the philo. I find philos a bit more difficult to root than monsteras.
Nice I will try, yeah thats my thoughts too maybe the hormone is not stable. Im also wondering if just more cuttings per jar works better because they are all spitting out more hormones and it stays concentrated in the jar so ill be testing things along those lines too
Ashley over at gardening in Canada just released a video in the last week talking about rooting hormones and yes they do break down fairly quickly and water and light both help that happen faster so that could be an issue with clear glass and a water solution as well
There may be a max number of binding sites for the root growth regulator, so the experimental group might use something known to not produce the regulator in question but that will react to it.
On the point of the hormones breaking down, its mainly used to get the dormant buds, nodes, meristems, (whatever you call them) to activate and make the meristematic cells to differentiate down the root path. Why its mostly used for woody plants and those without root nodes already existing. Speeding things up a tad can be done using hormone but largely all about kicking up those dormant meristems. Use hormone on pothos vs no hormone on pothos, going to have a very similar stike rate. Use hormone on a hydrangea vs no hormone hydrangea and the strike rate will be high vs low. Next to that is the impact on length and thickness on the root growth, but not as strongly correlated as strike rate in woody species.
Man, these videos are excellent documentation. I learn so much from your work here. I've been working to understand the tree loving groups skototropism better. It might sound odd, but I've always wanted to understand the perspective of plants.
I think maybe having a pothos cutting in with the cuttings you want to root might be worth looking into... maybe the pothos releases a continuous supply of a rooting hormone, but in the water you used the hormones wore off. Also, keeping a chunk of charcoal in the water while rooting plants helps keep it clean.
Some plant hormones are volatile and most might be having a certain half life and will degrade in few hours. Therefore, testing rooting water only without the cuttings may not be a legitimate way to test the root induction capacity.
The old water will almost certainly have less oxygen in it which will affect root growth as the oxygen will have been depleted while it sat in the jar with the pothos. Additionally the algae growing in the jar contributes to the deoxygenation. I would recommend controlling for this with an aquarium airstone or something to agitate the surface and increase oxygenation to both containers. I also don't know a ton about how rooting hormone works, but I would imagine that the amount a pothos secretes varies over time from when it was cut, and potentially uses it up to begin rooting. Then there's also a question around how long is rooting hormone viable in water. It would be interesting if you found a way to control for these potential variables.
Algae only *increases* oxygen as long as the lighting is adequate. Roots of plants doesn't have much of any effect on the oxygen levels, leaves *increase* oxygen.
best way to do this experiment is not saving the water, but intead add pothos to one cup and not to the other, boom problem solved, both start with clean water and one has constant exposure to "fresh" pothos juice
I would like to see this experiment using cuttings from plants other than pothos with pothos cuttings added in one jar. Then the other jar containing those same type of cuttings in another jar with no pothos cuttings added.
One thing that I observed during water propagation is that if you club more cuttings into a beaker, it roots better. However, if one of them develops rot, it spreads quickly to other cuttings too. In my opinion, clubbing many cuttings together works better but only when we are changing water regularly, actively monitoring and separating out the rotting cuttings from the rest. If, not it is better to be safe and slow, and grow them alone or in pair in separate beakers/test tubes.
yup i have this belief too! that is why i wanted to try just making "pothos rooting hormone water" I think people are mistaking the speed as like something special the pothos is doing but really if you just add more cuttings into a jar its the saturation of hormone from them all working together that allows them to root quicker and the species doesnt matter
Yay!!! I've been hoping for this!!! I've done a few unofficial experiments... not just using the water, but leaving a pothos cutting in the water with my props... I had 2 ZZ plant cuttings in water for over 4 weeks, neither were rooting, then I added a pothos cutting to one and roots popped out within 4 days! So I added a pothos cutting to the other and again, in about 4 days, roots started showing up! Then I tried with my Silver Bay cuttings and THE SAME THING happened! Now I add pothos cuttings to everything I'm water propagating and I'm having a ton of success! This has worked on my Dracaena janet craig, monstera adensonii, tradescantia zebrina, wax ivy, and ficus elastica.
Im planning on that next, I wanted to try this first because i believe that its not that pothos is special at helping root, its that you are adding more cuttings to a single source of water and it saturates with growth hormones faster because there are just more cuttings. I will test for that next! Thanks for watching!
The fact that you called an Erlenmeyer flask a beaker makes it so much more funny! But aside from that, as others have mentioned, rooting different plants at the same time as the pothos cuttings might make a difference, but make sure you have equal amounts of cuttings in each jar because a jar with double the amount of cuttings should root faster, no matter what the plants are, I believe. Another way to test this would be to blitz some pothos in your blender, strain and filter them out and use that water to root other cuttings vs regular water. Anyway, I always enjoy your experiments and straight-to-the-point videos even if your methods aren't flawless. Keep the good content coming!
Thanks for the ideas and kind words! Your scenario about equal amount of cutting is why I wanted to skip right to trying this. Because I'm assuming anytime you have more cuttings in a jar the water becomes more saturated with thr hormone. So jm going to take that into account when doing the next experiment!
I just pulled out a peperomia baby and it didn't have roots, I put it in with pothos that have rooted in water and in a few weeks baby has some roots. Am so excited. ❤️
Love your videos! Your content is so approachable. I haven't done a ton of props, but I hypothesize that the "hormone" is actually distress signals sent out by plant through cut end. I found when cut just tips of stem off and put back in water, root growth accelerated the following few days. The effect was short lived, so I am not surprised you didn't see an effect. It makes sense that the plant would reallocate resouces for rapid root growth to develop backup plan for nutrient acquisition if it detects damage threatening current nutrient supply routes (i.e. stem/vine). It also makes sense that these signals can spread to nearby plants alerting them of potential danger being that they have a higher risk of also being damaged given short distance. And it follows that the signals are short lived, otherwise all the plant would root obsessively and not grow given even minor insults. Like if a monkey scrambled down the vine doing a little damage, you wouldn't want the entire vine to massively root into the tree... it might kill the tree and the vine would never grow. It appears to be analogous to paracrine signaling in the body... for example if a virus infects a cell, that cell will send distress signals to nearby cells so those cells can prepare against viral invasion and propagation (basically shut down protein production). However you definitely would not want that message going to every cell in your body... you would probably die, and you wouldn't want those signals to hang around, otherwise the cold you were exposed to in January would still be making you miserable in July.
I'm genuinely impressed by how much time and effort you put into every single one of your experiments! And i appreciate it that you heed the advices given from the comments! Therefore, I have one for your next rooting experiments: in addition to do a comparison sample with just water, you could do a second one with actual rooting hormone to see what effets it does have. So you can compare/classify your results a bit better. Nonetheless, well done! Keep up your good work! And sorry if my English isn't the best, I'm not a native speaker :'D
Yes! Thank you for doing this experiment! I've had so many people tell me to keep a pothos cutting in with my other cuttings when rooting that I thought it must be a valid thing to do. Well maybe not lol I hope one of your future pothos experiments has an actual pothos cutting in with the other cuttings to see if that changes things. Experiments are fun --I look forward to more videos from Techplant :)
Yup that's next! I have a theory that any decent rooting cutting will do the same thing. Its the number of cuttings in a jar that make a difference. I gotta run all these tests!
Great video! Looking forward to the follow up videos and then I will propagate mine before it crawls all the way around my room. It has now reached a fake tree and is getting very chummy with it.😬
Makes me want to try using white willow cuttings with other plants for a similar experiment, never thought of mixing like this. They have natural rooting hormone, basically aspirin, and they root crazy fast.
Not sure about anyone else but I always put whatever I want 2 propagate in2 the water with fresh cut pothos so they can root 2gether. I did this with my Raven ZZ & had roots started on the ZZ b4 a month had past. Should mention that I had the cutting in a South facing window sill where they got 6-8 hours of bright direct & indirect sunlight & it was @ the end of the growing season. Round October.
Another suggestion is to have one/few pothos cutting rooting in one jar with the adansonii and the other one without. Then can see if the pothos rooting hormones affect other cuttings or not.
I look forward to seeing future experiments! It makes sense to me given that hormones would be organic compounds and likely not very water soluble that they don’t stick around. (Also, careful with assumptions: paper coffee filters are known to filter oil from coffee beans where metal ones don’t. So they very much can filter molecules that have more favorable interactions with paper than water). My hypothesis is more cuttings rooting together is what benefits, but you need at least one to start rooting and producing hormone first. That’s why people go for pothos bc it is cheap and almost always roots in water. I’ve got a whole bunch of dioscorea discolor that haven’t rooted in water after a month (probably 15 cuttings in one jar) so I am trying with some pothos sticks in there now.
1000% on your page, I have the same thought that its just the more cuttings in a cup the better they do because they feedback loop each other. So when people add pothos it seems like it helps a ton but really any decent cutting that roots in a timely manner would have the same effect.
I find adansonii insanely easy to root at least the wide variety I have. I noticed that you started with some pretty dehydrated cuttings. I don't follow trendy plant content BUT there's almost always something rooted in with my new propagations and not just pothos. In my head it encourages growth because I like to think they communicate.
Oh good news! My Monstera that I was thinking Abt cutting that burnt Monstera leaf off and one day I looked and there's a brand New Leaf Coming Up! I'm so excited 😁
Very interesting. Could you try rooting cuttings in one container, with just water, and in the other container, have the cuttings with pothos cuttings? The idea would be to see if the pothos sends out hormones as it is rooting, and if it affects other plants. It will be the difference between leftover pothos water, and actively growing pothos cuttings, just in case the hormone level is greater while the pothos are rooting.
yeap thats next, im also going to try and account for "additional" cuttings. Im partially wondering if people are seeing better results from a pothos cutting being added simply because an additional cutting was added thus adding to the overall hormone production. I wonder if just having a lot of cuttings in a smaller amount of water would also see greater rooting speed! theres so much to try im excited! Thanks for watching!
I think you should try to root them at the same time instead of using the old water. I heard rooting the cutting in a group help the rooting process faster.
Plant auxins, n Indole 3 butyric acid in particular are (mostly)water insoluble. It would be really cool to see this experiment preformed with a media made of 70% ethanol 30% water. Another cool expiriment (provided there is a noticable amount of IBA uptake) would be to then store the media for delayed periods of time to determine an average halflife of the auxin in a liquid media.
@@TechplantChannel Alas I def feel you there, My main method to answering my botany questions has been to read vaguely related research papers tell I've obtained enough terminology to do a properly directed google search lol...On that note I'm unsure if IBA is the main endogenously produced auxin in pathos, could be IAA that is the primary hormone your drawing out into solution...really unsure as I'm struggling to find much info on endogenously produced auxins.
LOL..the beaker makes it science....and the explosion XD. I kinda wanted to try this experiment, but with willow cuttings. I've seen a few videos that say the willow trees root SUPER fast, and then you can use the water for its hormones.
Add to the list: cloches and seed-starting mats. These have got my prop station going bonkers. I'd also love to see a video comparing regular ol' Better-Gro sphagnum moss to one of the fancy brands like SpagMoss.
@@TechplantChannel haha yeah honestly I just use two clear cups, one upside-down on top of the other…kind of a makeshift terrarium. Philodendrons love it with moss, leca, perlite or potting mix. It’s basically an individual prop box.
A few things. First, it's always more "sciencey" if you use a beaker. You cannot convince me otherwise. Second, I love how timeless your videos are. Although keeping up with some of the "trends" is great, videos like this are just as relevant years later....third, I'm setting up an experiment and I'm really curious about it. You mentioned that you weren't sure how long rooting hormones last in water.....so I think I will set something up like this. Obviously I'll keep a control and one he other end, I will have a permanent pothos in water in my windowsill. I'll prop my other plants in the water with pothos and see if it makes a difference in growth from the control. I'm also curious if pothos creates more hormones before and during initial rooting or if there would be a better results from a fully rooted pothos.....
Maybe you add a pothos cutting (either rooted or unrooted) together with some other cuttings, instead of saving the water and using it later.. Think about it, if pothos produces rooting hormones and you take out the pothos, they'll slowly be gone, just like you said. It's like removing a car engine from a car.
yup, this is just the start, that is next, plus i want to rule out the idea that just adding more cuttings in a small container goes faster than just a few. Like is it really pothos helping or would just two of any cutting in a jar be better than one due to like hormone saturation in the water
I don't use the pothos water, I use pothos cuttings with nodes. That's what helps. I stick one or two maybe even three nodes per cutting jar. It helps! I also change the water frequently. So far it's worked with everything EXCEPT my philodendron Brandi they have been in a jar for over a month with nothin happening. Well, the pothos has like a 2-3 inch long root. Lol
What do you think would happen if you used clean water in both but added actual pothos cuttings to one jar? I would be curious to know if it worked better that way. There are certainly alot of ways to root plants. It has become a fascination of mine to try propagating in diferant ways just to see how well they work for me. To date the cut and water propagating is still my most successful but I am starting to see some neat results with sphagnum moss and air layering. Happy planting journey and thank you for taking you time to make these videos!
Love it!!! Can't wait for the next vid!!! I always thought that putting the pothos cutting in the water with the other propagation was how it was done, but this was interesting. And then that also makes me wonder if the pothos cutting releases the hormone as it's growing its roots as well or if you put an already rooted cutting in with other cuttings would that do it too? But I bet that is what is to come 😁
yup! I also have a theory that the more cutting you have in a jar the faster they saturate the water with hormone and make all the cuttings root faster. So i wanted to see if pothos was putting hormone in the water and if you could "seed" future prop jars with old liquid filled with hormone. but from what i can tell from this experiment is that the hormone does not last long in the water before possibly deteriorating
@@TechplantChannel yeah, I was coming to that conclusion too, as you were in the video. But I like the more cuttings theory - super pumped for the next video. I really enjoy all of your content ☺️♥️
Aw, I think my comment got tossed in the spam folder for containing a link.. here it is without the link. If you havent seen Gardening In Canada's video I'd give it a watch! very helpful in understanding why this actually works! Its called "Do pothos help speed up other plants root growth" or something along those lines!
Yeah I saw some of her posts while I don't disagree what I wanna find out is if pothos is really potent or just adding additional cuttings of any plant help saturate thr water with hormones! Its really fun doing this stuff
I use the water I did the propagation in on the rooted cuttings when I plant them in soil, I read a long time ago that when you transition from water to soil you use the water you propagated in ,to water the newly planted rooted cuttings in when you plant them . The hormones are in the water that the cuttings were growing roots in. There other stuff in the water, that tells the plant to grow, to preserve itself. Think about it, if you are rooting a plant, that plants signals that it needs to grow roots to survive. Lots of stuff in that water, so when you plant your rooted cuttings, water the newly planted rooted cutting in with the water you propagated them in . watch the difference 🤔
Consider and experiment where Laniata cuttings are with a couple of pothos fresh cuttings in a jar and other jar is only Laniata cuttings. I believe pothos release the rooting magic initially. This is just an assumption…although, I have a biochemistry degree 😃 Love your videos
yeah thats next, I also think it could just be concentration too, like the more cuttings in a jar the more hormone available so i gotta try and remove that variable
@@TechplantChannel consider starting a Facebook forum. I am sure people will share and ask other ideas for your videos and your goals to lower price for some plants by propagating as a community
I've held some pothos cuttings alongside monstera adansonii cuttings in a plastic container with psagnum moss for a few months now and the rooting is quite slow for both.
The razor makes like the cleanest cut. I made a video about it and the differences are really something! They are a bit unsafe tho i cut myself very often
@@TechplantChannel in Spain (where I'm from) is a thing that has been traditionally used. Check out this video! th-cam.com/video/7wfRXQXZjr8/w-d-xo.html
Maybe a better way to test this is to have 3 separate jars. One with only pothos, one with pothos and another plant, and in the last jar to have only the other plant. This way you have 2 controls. But you should change the water frequently like you would for all plant prorogations. The plants should also all come from the same plant. Potho prorogations from one single pothos plant, and the the other prorogations from that other plant. I thinks this is where people meant about the growth hormone and not using old moldy water.
Thank you for doing such great experiments! I've noticed that when making cuttings, you cut pretty much in the middle of the internode, so that your one-node cutting is 1.5 inches of internode, then node, then 1.5 ish inches of internode again. Can you do an experiment where you cut right above the node, so your one node cuttings are more like 2.5 inches of internode, then node, then .5 inches of internode? I hope this make sense and I have my fingers crossed you will try this out!
im literally 1 month into this exact experiment. I even did like 1/16 inch cuttings on both sides! the results are wild so i cant wait to finish up! i need another week or two of results tho so stay tuned!
Thats next! Im also thinking just having more cuttings in a jar helps concentrate the hormone. Like if i put 1 cutting in 5 oz of water or 10 cuttings in 5oz of water im wondering if the 10 cuttings will all root way faster because they are helping to saturate the 5oz with hormone if that makes sesne! still a lot of experiments!
What about rooting one or 2 clippings of a fast rooting node (such as pothos) in the jar with the slow rooting cuttings (such as the monstera)? Maybe the hormone does not remain stable in water for long, so the fast rooting cutting might work as a source.
Wouldnt it be better to also use a glass of cuttings with laniata and photos instead of using old sucked out water, and it would have been interesting to take a look at the water values.
im going to do that next, my theory is people are seeing bettr results simply because there are more cuttings in a concentrated area so i was testing this to rule it out
My understanding is that Pothos don’t need rooting hormone, as they produce plenty of the hormone themselves (being adventitious climbers). Try using hormone for a plant that is difficult to water propagate (ficus lyrata maybe), as there would be less natural hormone in the samples to compare? In theory, putting Pothos in the same jar as a different plant effectively acts as a natural rooting hormone for the other plant, because the hormone from the pothos should disperse in to the water 🌱
Try one jar including pothos cuttings. I know hormones from spawning fish can influence other fish in the tank to spawn. I imagine the pothos would be the same (if pothos rooting hormones is a thing) 🤔
im going to do this next, i also think thats its possible that just having more cuttings in a jar helps so i was trying to eliminate that idea by making this "pothos tea"
This is super interesting, like how bananas will ripen other fruits and ive heard avocados will ripen other avocados faster but that is a very different reaction hmmmm
what alot of people do i think is have pothos and another plant in the same jar at the same time maybe do an experiment with a cutting with a pothos plant and ome without one in the water.
I have a question for you if you apply rooting hormone to a plant's roots that is already well-rooted what negative effects could it or will it have on that plant?
At the second view of the experiment, the plain water leaves were more erect, compared to slumping leaves on the 'hormone' plants. Was this the angle of lighting or could reoccur, I wonder.
I wonder what would be the effect if you put an actual pothos cutting or two into the jar with the rooting hormone water? I'm wondering if it requires the actual plant consistently putting the hormone in the water?
Like the background music? You might have some issues with your audio equalizer, Ive tested this video on cellphones, headphones, speakers and a tv too and it seems ok?
As of late none of my pothos can't seem to propagate with water culture; no roots, they just die. I have grown and propageted most of the plants I have in water, ironically. However, as of the last 2 years I have put them in soil. I wonder if that had anything to do with it. Before I used to be able to just put the trimmings in water and they grow like crazy, yet now they just wilt and die off.
Something with the container? City water or distilled? In the last couple years cities have stopped adding chlorine and started chloramine, which is even more toxic to plants.
@@BettyBoopBarnes Might be the water. The water where I used to live, I feel is "less clean", maybe the plants do well with whatever is in the water. The water where I moved is cleaner and maybe the water has more of the other chemicals. For now I will just chuck my trimmings in a terrarium, hopefully it doesn't get too crowded.
iv been experiencing some wierd stuff like that, Ive been using really hard water and some soft. water im going to do some water specific tests too so ill report back with my findings
Hey, I have been really interested into your 3d printed stuff for your plants. I was just looking at getting a 3d printer myself and was wondering what materials and printer you used for your moss poles.
I disagree. I put my pothos clipping in the water with my snake plants when trying to root the sansiveria in water. I have seen a huge difference and the clippings do not rot. Like ever. I never extracted the water from the pothos and use it that way. I just put a clipping of the pothos in the same container as snake plants. I'm currently trying with Brazil philodendren and will try to update you. God's blessings!
Thats next on my list. I have a feeling that any decent cutting helps tho I think its more about having multiple cuttings in a jar than specifically pothos but I gotta put it to the test. I've noticed over the years that when I put like 20 cuttings in a jar they root soooo fast but only like 1 to 5 take a lot longer. I'll be running many diff experiments to get a good idea of what works and doesn't work!
Thats what people do but im trying to rule out some things, I wanted to try this first because i believe that its not that pothos is special at helping root, its that you are adding more cuttings to a single source of water and it saturates with growth hormones faster because there are just more cuttings. I will test for that next! Thanks for watching!
@@TechplantChannel I've been wondering when to stop treating.. How you'll ever know they're gone. I've been treating them for over a couple months but I still keep seeing signs of them. They've spread to all of my plants just about, so I can't just throw out one. I think they were the root mealys. Super hard to get rid of. Came in on a pothos. I loved my pothos so much but now I'm terrified of having another. 😂😓
@@Whereisthedrumcircle Look into different "systemic" pesticides. It makes the plant toxic to the bugs that bite them. Im using one and it seems to work, but i still find meally bugs on plants its a lot of work but you can manually kill them too but they are so good at hiding in cracks
Sure those are not proper scientific experiments, but you're doing great for a non-scientist in a non-scientific setup. It's really good to see someone trying to somehow test the methods and hypothesis instead of just sharing what one believes, and I appreciate your effort.
yup, im working on getting better and better and accounting for more variables. Right now i have a lot of experiments going. one looking at water, i gotta start one with PH there just more and more varaibles as i go so im going to start writing stuff down and comming up with some kind of protocol or something but it will take time. Plus its hard to keep comming up with more and more cuttings lmao. im running out of vines
It definitely is science just in an amateur way. Science doesn't need to take place in a lab.
Somehow I think it's better this way because if the Photos would secrete growing hormone useful enough to use at home people would not use it in a scientific method anyway so this is closer to a practical application.
what I've learned from the swedish plant guys is, changing the water more frequently reduces risks of rot and accelerates root growth, a third jar which gets exchanged fresh water daily would have been superb. maybe another time^^
interestingly enough im literally almost done with an experiment where i have two jars, one i change the water everyday and one i never change the water and the never changed one is rooting like crazy and the one i change everyday is struggling lol. I have so many experiments and improvments i need to do tho. Its so exciting
Like im not going to doubt the swedish plant guys results where changing water worked better for them. So this energized me to figure out what is all going on with all the variables in my setup. I hope by the end of 2022 I have a much better understanding on how we can all improve our propagations!
Thank you got sharing this btw!
@@TechplantChannel oh my pleasure, I noticed with pothos in particular aswell, they simply dont care if I change the water or not. more sensitive plants seem to like it tho. the only plant I can't get to root at all is fatsia japonica. I have the spiderweb variant, but I'd assume they behave the same. any experience with these by any chance?^^
edit: swedes have very pure tap water btw, that could be a variable of some significance
root rot is my biggest problem with propagations. I'll try this tip. Thanks.
hahaha I got a beaker so this is now science I loved that so much. Thank you for doing this experiment. Just found your channel today.
Found your channel only today and I'm now binging. I wasn't interested in plants at all a year ago but I've really opened my eyes to it now - but I am totally clueless. Mostly I'm just testing things myself and learning as I go since most channels/websites just give contradictory advice anyway. Your channel is different and I love it, so thanks a bunch!
Glad to hear you are getting into plants! the way you are going about it is excellent! Keep testing stuff and dont even trust what im doing because god knows what other variables could be effecting my results! I hope you like to tinker around and experiment too because plants provide a lot of fun opportunities to do so!
@@TechplantChannel Thanks for replying! Yeah for sure I am loving the experimentation even though I get anxious to see results at times! :)
Just like you though - I am afraid a plant activist group will storm into my apartment due to all the tiny cuttings that have perished in the name of "science".
Buy couple of plants ant try to propagate them, when you will complete the process and notice the new growth you will be satisfied and motivated to try more and while you are waiting for rooting just do some research about the plants you have, and remember! Failing is a first step in learning, so do not give up.
same exact thing happened with me to
Plants are cool. Good luck out there, you'll learn what plants you get along with.
One day I decided to stick some garlic cloves in water because they had already started sprouting in my fridge. I was amazed at how fast the foliage and roots grew! I had some cuttings I’d had in water for months that just would not root. I had the idea to stick one of the growing garlic cloves in the water with one cutting and within the next 1-3 days, roots were finally starting! I had tried powdered rooting hormone weeks before with no luck, but the garlic worked. The cuttings were Monstera Adansonii, Rhaphidophora Tetrasperma, and Silver Satin Pothos.
welp another experiment to add to the list. Thanks for sharing!!
@@TechplantChannel No problem! Curious to see how it works for other people!
That's so cool. I am definitely going to try that.
This was interesting! Some thoughts and experiences:
1. My adansonii is actually a better rooter than my pothos. It roots like crazy and anything that I pair it with also roots really well. Also, I'm guessing once they start rooting, they're also producing rooting hormone, so...
2. I always thought of rooting hormone to be like unstable like other small complex molecules (no evidence backing my thought process, I don't even know molecularly what rooting hormone is). So basically my assumption is that it needs to be continuously (or semi continuously) produced. So I pair my hard to root plants with a pothos or an adansonii cutting (instead of just using spent water from these cuttings) to speed up the process. I do have a positive exp with method. And whenever I see something root faster than expected, I realize that oh it also had a pothos cutting so maybe that's why (and that's why I started pairing my cuttings with a pothos/ adansonii waaaay before I read about this online).
3. Like point 2, I'd try hard to root plants, cause then the difference might be appreciable? Snake plant leaf cuttings, aglaonema and dieffenbachia cuttings, try to pair those with pothos/ adansonii cuttings and see if the process speeds up. In this case what was the difference between the adansonii and the philo. I find philos a bit more difficult to root than monsteras.
Nice I will try, yeah thats my thoughts too maybe the hormone is not stable. Im also wondering if just more cuttings per jar works better because they are all spitting out more hormones and it stays concentrated in the jar so ill be testing things along those lines too
@@TechplantChannel Good luck! Rooting for you!
Ashley over at gardening in Canada just released a video in the last week talking about rooting hormones and yes they do break down fairly quickly and water and light both help that happen faster so that could be an issue with clear glass and a water solution as well
There may be a max number of binding sites for the root growth regulator, so the experimental group might use something known to not produce the regulator in question but that will react to it.
On the point of the hormones breaking down, its mainly used to get the dormant buds, nodes, meristems, (whatever you call them) to activate and make the meristematic cells to differentiate down the root path. Why its mostly used for woody plants and those without root nodes already existing. Speeding things up a tad can be done using hormone but largely all about kicking up those dormant meristems.
Use hormone on pothos vs no hormone on pothos, going to have a very similar stike rate.
Use hormone on a hydrangea vs no hormone hydrangea and the strike rate will be high vs low. Next to that is the impact on length and thickness on the root growth, but not as strongly correlated as strike rate in woody species.
Loved the science-y additions! The beaker, the dropper, the explosion!
lol i hope people got a kick out of the explosion i thought it was really funny
@@TechplantChannel I found it super funny! When I saw the drop I hoped to see something special happening!
i like the beaker and dropper. it really helped me know that this is in fact Science
“I got a beaker so it’s officially science!” I love your channel men, thanks for all the experiments and time spent!!
"The difference between science and fucking around is keeping notes." Great video!
lmaooo, i need to keep better notes! Im slowly trying to get better and better at testing stuff and become more ridged too! Thanks for watching!
Man, these videos are excellent documentation. I learn so much from your work here. I've been working to understand the tree loving groups skototropism better. It might sound odd, but I've always wanted to understand the perspective of plants.
I think maybe having a pothos cutting in with the cuttings you want to root might be worth looking into... maybe the pothos releases a continuous supply of a rooting hormone, but in the water you used the hormones wore off. Also, keeping a chunk of charcoal in the water while rooting plants helps keep it clean.
Those are next on the list! The charcoal idea is interesting!
Some plant hormones are volatile and most might be having a certain half life and will degrade in few hours. Therefore, testing rooting water only without the cuttings may not be a legitimate way to test the root induction capacity.
The old water will almost certainly have less oxygen in it which will affect root growth as the oxygen will have been depleted while it sat in the jar with the pothos. Additionally the algae growing in the jar contributes to the deoxygenation. I would recommend controlling for this with an aquarium airstone or something to agitate the surface and increase oxygenation to both containers.
I also don't know a ton about how rooting hormone works, but I would imagine that the amount a pothos secretes varies over time from when it was cut, and potentially uses it up to begin rooting. Then there's also a question around how long is rooting hormone viable in water. It would be interesting if you found a way to control for these potential variables.
airstone idea is great
Algae only *increases* oxygen as long as the lighting is adequate. Roots of plants doesn't have much of any effect on the oxygen levels, leaves *increase* oxygen.
best way to do this experiment is not saving the water, but intead add pothos to one cup and not to the other, boom problem solved, both start with clean water and one has constant exposure to "fresh" pothos juice
I would like to see this experiment using cuttings from plants other than pothos with pothos cuttings added in one jar. Then the other jar containing those same type of cuttings in another jar with no pothos cuttings added.
He's done an experiment, leaving the water in is definitely the way to go, you could top up water if you're worried
One thing that I observed during water propagation is that if you club more cuttings into a beaker, it roots better. However, if one of them develops rot, it spreads quickly to other cuttings too.
In my opinion, clubbing many cuttings together works better but only when we are changing water regularly, actively monitoring and separating out the rotting cuttings from the rest. If, not it is better to be safe and slow, and grow them alone or in pair in separate beakers/test tubes.
yup i have this belief too! that is why i wanted to try just making "pothos rooting hormone water" I think people are mistaking the speed as like something special the pothos is doing but really if you just add more cuttings into a jar its the saturation of hormone from them all working together that allows them to root quicker and the species doesnt matter
Yay!!! I've been hoping for this!!!
I've done a few unofficial experiments... not just using the water, but leaving a pothos cutting in the water with my props...
I had 2 ZZ plant cuttings in water for over 4 weeks, neither were rooting, then I added a pothos cutting to one and roots popped out within 4 days! So I added a pothos cutting to the other and again, in about 4 days, roots started showing up!
Then I tried with my Silver Bay cuttings and THE SAME THING happened!
Now I add pothos cuttings to everything I'm water propagating and I'm having a ton of success! This has worked on my Dracaena janet craig, monstera adensonii, tradescantia zebrina, wax ivy, and ficus elastica.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing a detailed post like this, it will help me set up additional experiments!!
@@TechplantChannel yay! I'm really looking to your upcoming experiments! I love your channel!
Your content is the best !!! 🌿🤩🌿😍🌿
Thank you!
Thanks for the video. The addition of the beaker definitely made me take you more seriously 😂.
lmao
Maybe add a pothos cutting with the other plants. That’s how it always worked for me. Thank you for sharing.
Im planning on that next, I wanted to try this first because i believe that its not that pothos is special at helping root, its that you are adding more cuttings to a single source of water and it saturates with growth hormones faster because there are just more cuttings. I will test for that next! Thanks for watching!
Great experiment! Thumb up👍
Thank you 🤗
The fact that you called an Erlenmeyer flask a beaker makes it so much more funny!
But aside from that, as others have mentioned, rooting different plants at the same time as the pothos cuttings might make a difference, but make sure you have equal amounts of cuttings in each jar because a jar with double the amount of cuttings should root faster, no matter what the plants are, I believe. Another way to test this would be to blitz some pothos in your blender, strain and filter them out and use that water to root other cuttings vs regular water. Anyway, I always enjoy your experiments and straight-to-the-point videos even if your methods aren't flawless. Keep the good content coming!
Thanks for the ideas and kind words! Your scenario about equal amount of cutting is why I wanted to skip right to trying this. Because I'm assuming anytime you have more cuttings in a jar the water becomes more saturated with thr hormone. So jm going to take that into account when doing the next experiment!
I just pulled out a peperomia baby and it didn't have roots, I put it in with pothos that have rooted in water and in a few weeks baby has some roots. Am so excited. ❤️
Nice!
Love your videos! Your content is so approachable. I haven't done a ton of props, but I hypothesize that the "hormone" is actually distress signals sent out by plant through cut end. I found when cut just tips of stem off and put back in water, root growth accelerated the following few days. The effect was short lived, so I am not surprised you didn't see an effect.
It makes sense that the plant would reallocate resouces for rapid root growth to develop backup plan for nutrient acquisition if it detects damage threatening current nutrient supply routes (i.e. stem/vine). It also makes sense that these signals can spread to nearby plants alerting them of potential danger being that they have a higher risk of also being damaged given short distance. And it follows that the signals are short lived, otherwise all the plant would root obsessively and not grow given even minor insults. Like if a monkey scrambled down the vine doing a little damage, you wouldn't want the entire vine to massively root into the tree... it might kill the tree and the vine would never grow.
It appears to be analogous to paracrine signaling in the body... for example if a virus infects a cell, that cell will send distress signals to nearby cells so those cells can prepare against viral invasion and propagation (basically shut down protein production). However you definitely would not want that message going to every cell in your body... you would probably die, and you wouldn't want those signals to hang around, otherwise the cold you were exposed to in January would still be making you miserable in July.
I'm genuinely impressed by how much time and effort you put into every single one of your experiments! And i appreciate it that you heed the advices given from the comments! Therefore, I have one for your next rooting experiments: in addition to do a comparison sample with just water, you could do a second one with actual rooting hormone to see what effets it does have. So you can compare/classify your results a bit better.
Nonetheless, well done! Keep up your good work!
And sorry if my English isn't the best, I'm not a native speaker :'D
I have a rooting hormone one but not side by side with this style ill add it to the next one!
Maybe try rooting with the pothos still in the jar?
thats next, along with some other things that I have a feeling are contributing factors
Interesting experiment..I look forward to your future tests on the subject 👍
Thanks!
Yes! Thank you for doing this experiment! I've had so many people tell me to keep a pothos cutting in with my other cuttings when rooting that I thought it must be a valid thing to do. Well maybe not lol
I hope one of your future pothos experiments has an actual pothos cutting in with the other cuttings to see if that changes things.
Experiments are fun --I look forward to more videos from Techplant :)
Yup that's next! I have a theory that any decent rooting cutting will do the same thing. Its the number of cuttings in a jar that make a difference. I gotta run all these tests!
Great video! Looking forward to the follow up videos and then I will propagate mine before it crawls all the way around my room. It has now reached a fake tree and is getting very chummy with it.😬
nice! I need to come rob you of it cuz im running out of vines to chop up for experiments lmao
That's interesting. Looking forward to the next experiments.
Thanks!
Makes me want to try using white willow cuttings with other plants for a similar experiment, never thought of mixing like this. They have natural rooting hormone, basically aspirin, and they root crazy fast.
Do it!!! Its really fun to witness the results!
"So I got a beaker, so now this officially science" lmao
lol
how amazing to think that you spent 2 mos for a 5 mins video great video btw
Thanks for watching!
Not sure about anyone else but I always put whatever I want 2 propagate in2 the water with fresh cut pothos so they can root 2gether. I did this with my Raven ZZ & had roots started on the ZZ b4 a month had past. Should mention that I had the cutting in a South facing window sill where they got 6-8 hours of bright direct & indirect sunlight & it was @ the end of the growing season. Round October.
Another suggestion is to have one/few pothos cutting rooting in one jar with the adansonii and the other one without. Then can see if the pothos rooting hormones affect other cuttings or not.
yeap im doing that next! thanks for the suggestion!
Great Test! Looking forward to seeing more!
I look forward to seeing future experiments! It makes sense to me given that hormones would be organic compounds and likely not very water soluble that they don’t stick around. (Also, careful with assumptions: paper coffee filters are known to filter oil from coffee beans where metal ones don’t. So they very much can filter molecules that have more favorable interactions with paper than water).
My hypothesis is more cuttings rooting together is what benefits, but you need at least one to start rooting and producing hormone first. That’s why people go for pothos bc it is cheap and almost always roots in water. I’ve got a whole bunch of dioscorea discolor that haven’t rooted in water after a month (probably 15 cuttings in one jar) so I am trying with some pothos sticks in there now.
1000% on your page, I have the same thought that its just the more cuttings in a cup the better they do because they feedback loop each other. So when people add pothos it seems like it helps a ton but really any decent cutting that roots in a timely manner would have the same effect.
I love your channel! New subscriber here!!! You’ve helped me so much with my Pothos!! 🤞🏾☺️
Awesome! Thank you! I hope they continue to grow well!
@@TechplantChannel Thank you so much !! I appreciate it😀
I also do "science", I have some cool test tunes that I root garlic cloves in. The roots get super long and it looks really cool.
Test Tubes! What is a test tune? It kept Auto- correcting. Why?
Very cool!
lol
I find adansonii insanely easy to root at least the wide variety I have. I noticed that you started with some pretty dehydrated cuttings. I don't follow trendy plant content BUT there's almost always something rooted in with my new propagations and not just pothos. In my head it encourages growth because I like to think they communicate.
yeah what im thinking is as long as you have a multitude of cuttings in a propagation jar it does well
Oh good news! My Monstera that I was thinking Abt cutting that burnt Monstera leaf off and one day I looked and there's a brand New Leaf Coming Up! I'm so excited 😁
awesome!!!!
Very interesting. Could you try rooting cuttings in one container, with just water, and in the other container, have the cuttings with pothos cuttings? The idea would be to see if the pothos sends out hormones as it is rooting, and if it affects other plants. It will be the difference between leftover pothos water, and actively growing pothos cuttings, just in case the hormone level is greater while the pothos are rooting.
yeap thats next, im also going to try and account for "additional" cuttings. Im partially wondering if people are seeing better results from a pothos cutting being added simply because an additional cutting was added thus adding to the overall hormone production. I wonder if just having a lot of cuttings in a smaller amount of water would also see greater rooting speed! theres so much to try im excited! Thanks for watching!
I think you should try to root them at the same time instead of using the old water. I heard rooting the cutting in a group help the rooting process faster.
Plant auxins, n Indole 3 butyric acid in particular are (mostly)water insoluble. It would be really cool to see this experiment preformed with a media made of 70% ethanol 30% water. Another cool expiriment (provided there is a noticable amount of IBA uptake) would be to then store the media for delayed periods of time to determine an average halflife of the auxin in a liquid media.
Thanks for all this terminology btw It will help me do better research sometimes I struggle to find the terms i need to really begin reading!
@@TechplantChannel Alas I def feel you there, My main method to answering my botany questions has been to read vaguely related research papers tell I've obtained enough terminology to do a properly directed google search lol...On that note I'm unsure if IBA is the main endogenously produced auxin in pathos, could be IAA that is the primary hormone your drawing out into solution...really unsure as I'm struggling to find much info on endogenously produced auxins.
Another banger, these experiment videos are my favorite
i got more interesting ones comming!
LOL..the beaker makes it science....and the explosion XD. I kinda wanted to try this experiment, but with willow cuttings. I've seen a few videos that say the willow trees root SUPER fast, and then you can use the water for its hormones.
i wanna try it too!
Yes, IAA is very unstable in such conditions. IF it works, you should put the Pothos and the other plant in the same jar at the same time.
Thats the next step
Add to the list: cloches and seed-starting mats. These have got my prop station going bonkers.
I'd also love to see a video comparing regular ol' Better-Gro sphagnum moss to one of the fancy brands like SpagMoss.
fantastic ideas! I had to look up what a "cloches" was and that would be an awesome comparison
@@TechplantChannel haha yeah honestly I just use two clear cups, one upside-down on top of the other…kind of a makeshift terrarium. Philodendrons love it with moss, leca, perlite or potting mix. It’s basically an individual prop box.
Great video! Really enjoyed
Thanks so much!
A few things. First, it's always more "sciencey" if you use a beaker. You cannot convince me otherwise. Second, I love how timeless your videos are. Although keeping up with some of the "trends" is great, videos like this are just as relevant years later....third, I'm setting up an experiment and I'm really curious about it. You mentioned that you weren't sure how long rooting hormones last in water.....so I think I will set something up like this. Obviously I'll keep a control and one he other end, I will have a permanent pothos in water in my windowsill. I'll prop my other plants in the water with pothos and see if it makes a difference in growth from the control. I'm also curious if pothos creates more hormones before and during initial rooting or if there would be a better results from a fully rooted pothos.....
Maybe you add a pothos cutting (either rooted or unrooted) together with some other cuttings, instead of saving the water and using it later.. Think about it, if pothos produces rooting hormones and you take out the pothos, they'll slowly be gone, just like you said. It's like removing a car engine from a car.
yup, this is just the start, that is next, plus i want to rule out the idea that just adding more cuttings in a small container goes faster than just a few. Like is it really pothos helping or would just two of any cutting in a jar be better than one due to like hormone saturation in the water
I don't use the pothos water, I use pothos cuttings with nodes. That's what helps. I stick one or two maybe even three nodes per cutting jar. It helps! I also change the water frequently. So far it's worked with everything EXCEPT my philodendron Brandi they have been in a jar for over a month with nothin happening. Well, the pothos has like a 2-3 inch long root. Lol
Im testing that out next!
What do you think would happen if you used clean water in both but added actual pothos cuttings to one jar? I would be curious to know if it worked better that way. There are certainly alot of ways to root plants. It has become a fascination of mine to try propagating in diferant ways just to see how well they work for me. To date the cut and water propagating is still my most successful but I am starting to see some neat results with sphagnum moss and air layering. Happy planting journey and thank you for taking you time to make these videos!
I'm doing that one next
Love it!!! Can't wait for the next vid!!! I always thought that putting the pothos cutting in the water with the other propagation was how it was done, but this was interesting. And then that also makes me wonder if the pothos cutting releases the hormone as it's growing its roots as well or if you put an already rooted cutting in with other cuttings would that do it too? But I bet that is what is to come 😁
yup! I also have a theory that the more cutting you have in a jar the faster they saturate the water with hormone and make all the cuttings root faster. So i wanted to see if pothos was putting hormone in the water and if you could "seed" future prop jars with old liquid filled with hormone. but from what i can tell from this experiment is that the hormone does not last long in the water before possibly deteriorating
@@TechplantChannel yeah, I was coming to that conclusion too, as you were in the video. But I like the more cuttings theory - super pumped for the next video. I really enjoy all of your content ☺️♥️
Aw, I think my comment got tossed in the spam folder for containing a link.. here it is without the link.
If you havent seen Gardening In Canada's video I'd give it a watch! very helpful in understanding why this actually works! Its called "Do pothos help speed up other plants root growth" or something along those lines!
Yeah I saw some of her posts while I don't disagree what I wanna find out is if pothos is really potent or just adding additional cuttings of any plant help saturate thr water with hormones! Its really fun doing this stuff
I got a beaker so this is officially science... lmao 😂😂😂
lmao, worst part is I forgot thats actually an erlenmeyer flask
Dope beaker, Yo. 🤙
I'm down for figuring out what's up with root hormone and increasing success with difficult cuttings. ✌
yeah me too im excited for all the experiments to come!
I use the water I did the propagation in on the rooted cuttings when I plant them in soil, I read a long time ago that when you transition from water to soil you use the water you propagated in ,to water the newly planted rooted cuttings in when you plant them . The hormones are in the water that the cuttings were growing roots in. There other stuff in the water, that tells the plant to grow, to preserve itself. Think about it, if you are rooting a plant, that plants signals that it needs to grow roots to survive. Lots of stuff in that water, so when you plant your rooted cuttings, water the newly planted rooted cutting in with the water you propagated them in . watch the difference 🤔
Consider and experiment where Laniata cuttings are with a couple of pothos fresh cuttings in a jar and other jar is only Laniata cuttings. I believe pothos release the rooting magic initially. This is just an assumption…although, I have a biochemistry degree 😃
Love your videos
yeah thats next, I also think it could just be concentration too, like the more cuttings in a jar the more hormone available so i gotta try and remove that variable
@@TechplantChannel consider starting a Facebook forum. I am sure people will share and ask other ideas for your videos and your goals to lower price for some plants by propagating as a community
I've held some pothos cuttings alongside monstera adansonii cuttings in a plastic container with psagnum moss for a few months now and the rooting is quite slow for both.
interesting
0:56 That's not a beaker, that's an Erlenmeyer flask
Lol 😆 whoooops
A razor blade. 😳 No clippers?
I like your home experiments. 👍🏼
Thanks!
The razor makes like the cleanest cut. I made a video about it and the differences are really something! They are a bit unsafe tho i cut myself very often
I’ve always heard it was putting them in the vase together. Maybe try that?
That's an Erlenmeyer flask not a beaker. Nice experiment nonetheless. Thanks.
dangit!!!
A great way of making rooting hormone is by germinating lentils and then using the water / germinations.
I can try that next!
@@TechplantChannel in Spain (where I'm from) is a thing that has been traditionally used. Check out this video! th-cam.com/video/7wfRXQXZjr8/w-d-xo.html
Maybe a better way to test this is to have 3 separate jars. One with only pothos, one with pothos and another plant, and in the last jar to have only the other plant. This way you have 2 controls. But you should change the water frequently like you would for all plant prorogations. The plants should also all come from the same plant. Potho prorogations from one single pothos plant, and the the other prorogations from that other plant. I thinks this is where people meant about the growth hormone and not using old moldy water.
i actually almost never change my water when propagating but im going to try pothos in the actual jars next
So much science 👏🏻
lol
Thank you for doing such great experiments! I've noticed that when making cuttings, you cut pretty much in the middle of the internode, so that your one-node cutting is 1.5 inches of internode, then node, then 1.5 ish inches of internode again. Can you do an experiment where you cut right above the node, so your one node cuttings are more like 2.5 inches of internode, then node, then .5 inches of internode?
I hope this make sense and I have my fingers crossed you will try this out!
im literally 1 month into this exact experiment. I even did like 1/16 inch cuttings on both sides! the results are wild so i cant wait to finish up! i need another week or two of results tho so stay tuned!
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
I put the pothos cuttings in the water w the other plant!
Thats next! Im also thinking just having more cuttings in a jar helps concentrate the hormone. Like if i put 1 cutting in 5 oz of water or 10 cuttings in 5oz of water im wondering if the 10 cuttings will all root way faster because they are helping to saturate the 5oz with hormone if that makes sesne! still a lot of experiments!
I was just wondering, do you eat what you grow? The veggies not the Pothos. Lol great video btw. Love it.
yup, this comming spring i will have a rather large garden for the first time. Im going to try and do vids about it too!
What about rooting one or 2 clippings of a fast rooting node (such as pothos) in the jar with the slow rooting cuttings (such as the monstera)? Maybe the hormone does not remain stable in water for long, so the fast rooting cutting might work as a source.
Wouldnt it be better to also use a glass of cuttings with laniata and photos instead of using old sucked out water, and it would have been interesting to take a look at the water values.
im going to do that next, my theory is people are seeing bettr results simply because there are more cuttings in a concentrated area so i was testing this to rule it out
Maybe try adding a pothos cutting to the cup with the monstera cuttings?
kk i will try it
Great comparison
My understanding is that Pothos don’t need rooting hormone, as they produce plenty of the hormone themselves (being adventitious climbers).
Try using hormone for a plant that is difficult to water propagate (ficus lyrata maybe), as there would be less natural hormone in the samples to compare?
In theory, putting Pothos in the same jar as a different plant effectively acts as a natural rooting hormone for the other plant, because the hormone from the pothos should disperse in to the water 🌱
Yeah pothos was what I made the water with and the plants I tested it on were monstera adansonii, I can try some harder plants next
Try one jar including pothos cuttings.
I know hormones from spawning fish can influence other fish in the tank to spawn. I imagine the pothos would be the same (if pothos rooting hormones is a thing) 🤔
im going to do this next, i also think thats its possible that just having more cuttings in a jar helps so i was trying to eliminate that idea by making this "pothos tea"
This is super interesting, like how bananas will ripen other fruits and ive heard avocados will ripen other avocados faster but that is a very different reaction hmmmm
yup i love this stuff!
what alot of people do i think is have pothos and another plant in the same jar at the same time maybe do an experiment with a cutting with a pothos plant and ome without one in the water.
yup thats in the pipeline. im also wondering if just more cuttings per jar makes it go faster due to hormone saturation if tha makes sense!
those science joke is really good. btw how about rooting plants with mushed up pothos. I read aloe can bee a good rooting hormone too.
ill look into that
Not sure if it works but I always have some Pothos cuttings in my propagation containers and the new roots are usually robust!
Im trying that soon!
Who said this isn’t science? This is literally science
A random commentor lol I just thought it was funny tho 🤣
I have a question for you if you apply rooting hormone to a plant's roots that is already well-rooted what negative effects could it or will it have on that plant?
I can try that experiment
Hi sir! Have you tried to propagate in water and you change the water weekly? Is it true that regular change of water makes the propagation faster?
I'm doing an experiment right now like that and the one I'm changing everyday is slower so I'm not sure
At the second view of the experiment, the plain water leaves were more erect, compared to slumping leaves on the 'hormone' plants. Was this the angle of lighting or could reoccur, I wonder.
Hmm interesting, I'm not sure. They were in the same conditions so I don't know?
This is an interesting experiment
Thanks!
I wonder what would be the effect if you put an actual pothos cutting or two into the jar with the rooting hormone water? I'm wondering if it requires the actual plant consistently putting the hormone in the water?
im trying that next
5:15 why do you hope i enjoyed the video? Do you think that it is enjoyable to listen 5 minutes background sounds?
Like the background music? You might have some issues with your audio equalizer, Ive tested this video on cellphones, headphones, speakers and a tv too and it seems ok?
So cool!
Thanks!
As of late none of my pothos can't seem to propagate with water culture; no roots, they just die. I have grown and propageted most of the plants I have in water, ironically. However, as of the last 2 years I have put them in soil. I wonder if that had anything to do with it. Before I used to be able to just put the trimmings in water and they grow like crazy, yet now they just wilt and die off.
Something with the container? City water or distilled? In the last couple years cities have stopped adding chlorine and started chloramine, which is even more toxic to plants.
@@BettyBoopBarnes Might be the water. The water where I used to live, I feel is "less clean", maybe the plants do well with whatever is in the water. The water where I moved is cleaner and maybe the water has more of the other chemicals. For now I will just chuck my trimmings in a terrarium, hopefully it doesn't get too crowded.
iv been experiencing some wierd stuff like that, Ive been using really hard water and some soft. water im going to do some water specific tests too so ill report back with my findings
@@TechplantChannel I look forward to watching, and sharing that!
Where’s the other experiment videos on this?
Hey, I have been really interested into your 3d printed stuff for your plants. I was just looking at getting a 3d printer myself and was wondering what materials and printer you used for your moss poles.
PLA and im using an Ender 3 v2 for the small stuff and an CR-10 for bigger stuff
if you try this again, maybe think about adding hydrogen peroxide to the old water before you put cuttings in it will kill algae
Interesting idea, I wonder what effect it would have on any hormones that may be present?
Please we need an update!!!
I gotta get some experiments going i fell off the map a bit
Omg “I have a Becker so now it’s science”lmfao I died
Maybe you should try keeping the pathos in the water with the propagation
Thats next!
You have to use live pothos not old gross water...
yeah thats next, i just wanted to see if rooting hormone would stay present in the water
Willow tea I have heard has lots of explanations
Same I wanna look into that too
Willow bark produces salicylic acid that is used as a rooting hormone :)
I root pothos with other cuttings in the same container.
I'm trying that next
I disagree. I put my pothos clipping in the water with my snake plants when trying to root the sansiveria in water. I have seen a huge difference and the clippings do not rot. Like ever. I never extracted the water from the pothos and use it that way. I just put a clipping of the pothos in the same container as snake plants. I'm currently trying with Brazil philodendren and will try to update you. God's blessings!
Thats next on my list. I have a feeling that any decent cutting helps tho I think its more about having multiple cuttings in a jar than specifically pothos but I gotta put it to the test. I've noticed over the years that when I put like 20 cuttings in a jar they root soooo fast but only like 1 to 5 take a lot longer. I'll be running many diff experiments to get a good idea of what works and doesn't work!
I thought that you keep the pathos cutting in the water with other cuttings🤷♀️
Thats what people do but im trying to rule out some things, I wanted to try this first because i believe that its not that pothos is special at helping root, its that you are adding more cuttings to a single source of water and it saturates with growth hormones faster because there are just more cuttings. I will test for that next! Thanks for watching!
@@TechplantChannel looking forward to that.
Techplant have you ever dealt with mealybugs? If so what did you do to treat them? BTW how many pothos do you have now?
I use neam oil or systemic I've had mealy bugs for thr last year, ill make a video
@@TechplantChannel I've been wondering when to stop treating.. How you'll ever know they're gone. I've been treating them for over a couple months but I still keep seeing signs of them. They've spread to all of my plants just about, so I can't just throw out one. I think they were the root mealys. Super hard to get rid of. Came in on a pothos. I loved my pothos so much but now I'm terrified of having another. 😂😓
@@Whereisthedrumcircle Look into different "systemic" pesticides. It makes the plant toxic to the bugs that bite them. Im using one and it seems to work, but i still find meally bugs on plants its a lot of work but you can manually kill them too but they are so good at hiding in cracks
Well… how about trying rooting with pothos at the same time?