@@terragthegreat175 Man, I don't know if that it's unintentional... Nobody is so stupid, not even Rian Johnson. I truly believe he is trolling through all movie, and that Rose scene is his masterpiece of trolling.
True. I don't know why I keep exposing myself to more critique. I mean, I knew it had problems from only watching it once, but now I realize even more how nearly every single aspect of the movie is far worse than I initially realized. I never intend on watching again.
There's actually a non-idiotic argument for saving Finn (having an enemy defector can provide tons of valuable intel,) but the one time Finn actually gets to do this in the sequels turns out to be a trap so we can sUbVeRt ExPeCtAtIoNs. I don't even know what his purpose in the story is now besides being Rose's boyfriend. In TFA he was the audience surrogate, the character who is confused by everything so people have to explain it to him and the audience, and he sort of had a rival arc that got completely thrown away. In TLJ all of that's out the window because there's nothing for him to be confused about. Then his arc is the question of whether he'll run away or die fighting, but they answer it with "none of the above", to sUbVeRt the expectation that character arcs actually conclude with change. What's left for him to do? I have to assume his time in Episode IX is going to be spent on a "will they or won't they" romance with Rose, because that's the dumbest possible thing I can think of for him to be doing. Finn was a really promising character, his breakdown at the start of TFA was actual good filmmaking, and seeing what they've wasted him on is worse than him just never being good.
Star destroyers are literally known as one of the fastest large ships out there....hence the fact that the millennium falcon was special for being able to outrun them...
That's where star wars has a bit of a problem, star destroyers are presented as capital ships, but they're called star DESTROYERS. If they are actually destroyers it would make sense that they can move quickly, that's one of the main roles of a destroyer. That would be all nice and good, but they sure look like either battleships or dreadnoughts to me.
@Warrcoww You do realize that the name represents the ship’s immense firepower. The name means that it can destroy stars (in a figurative term) because it is so powerful. It does not point at the ship being a destroyer class.
@@warrcoww6717 also, in space mass doesnt matter. the mass/thrust ratio does. yes, i know, star wars isnt a science fiction, still the star destroyers have huge thrusters.
“That’s how we’re gonna win. Not fighting what we hate, but saving what we love” *Massive explosion kills everyone that could help with that win* *sexual assault happens* Hurray?
And why the fuck did she have a crush on him? I guess I will have to read some EU-novel to learn about when they showed any sort of romantic feelings towards eachother...
I had a build up of frustrations with this movie as I watched it, I felt really annoyed and angry by what I was watching and when that happened I just sputtered and laughed. I was done at that point.
Hahaha, exactly what I was thinking a minute ago "I've seen so many of those videos bashing Last Jedi, how about I stop already... Nah, it's never enough".
I remember sitting in the theater, watching this movie, and upon hearing the "...they're faster and lighter" line I was so aghast with disbelief I reflexively blurted out, "What?! There's no weight in space!". I was promptly shushed, but then I heard a far-off voice from my left say, "He's right!".
@@starkjet2197 yh people seem to love this excuse being for kids doesnt excuse bad writing toy story is for kids and that film has incredible writing the first 3 movies all do being a kids movie doesnt mean its just for kids it means that they intend kids to watch it so they cant put to much swearing or phallic behaviour i doesnt mean you have to make to movie equivalent of waving your keys in front of a baby to shut it up
You know what I find hilarious? The fact that the only good thing to come out of TLJ, are the endless amounts of video's tearing it to pieces in a far more entertaining manner than TLJ could dream of being.
I agree. I'd pay these critics more than I paid for the ticket anyway. They do a better job than those who "revisited" the movie before publishing it to the masses.
Even my Wife(who only watches SW movies once(uber casual SW fan) asked me HOW Rey was able to defeat the Royal Guard and how laughable it was and cringe worthy of what they did w/ Luke.. It's as if they treated Luke the way they feel about the over 30 SW fans...
God this is so true, I've probably spent more time watching those videos on youtube than watching The Last Jedi (I refuse to type TLJ because it's a disgrace to my beloved The Longest Journey) and hell, it was so much more entertaining than that movie.
And another 10 minutes of pondering and the other half of the sequels is cannon ruining material. Having a standard small cruiser hyperspace into a ginourmous ship and cutting it in half and the rest of the fleet to shreds... Yeah...
Hell they wouldn't need to constantly use fuel for forward motion since after a few minutes of thrust they could cut the engine and drift at a constant forever in a straight line since the first order even says they're faster.
There is NO top speed of an engine in space. As long as it is producing thrust it will accelerate a ship. How fast you get to a certain speed depends on the thrust to mass ratio of the ship.
well you could put all of your ships in the same plan and block 90% of your cannons, not use the fast tie fighters to intercept and harrass and ...... ohhh nvm..
@@zarthemad8386 You could also just scatter, instead of staying together. The First Order only had 1 tracking unit, so they could only follow 1 ship. Finn knew there was only 1 tracking unit, because it was a crucial part of the Poe/Finn/Rose plan to disable it.
I dunno, arced shots in space battles are cool if they don't all arc the same bloody way....which just so happens to be down relative to the bloody ship...
Haha, I know how you feel. In fact I am fairly sure that if the people in a random YT comment section under videos like this put out heads together, we could write a better script than RLJ in about three hours, even with internet delay.
In a Private screening before hand everyone was said to be happy even The rubbish Star Trek shows these days don't have that level of associated self delusion. But The Rise of Skywalker seems like it had some pretty extensive reshoots - where as it seems that they decided The Last Jedi didn't need them. Opps
The fuel thing was hilarious after the Falcon (which is a cargo ship) can fly back and forth repeatedly. Random Resistance member: “Why aren’t we using the freighter on board to go get us some fuel?” Holdo: “That man is *thinking!* Arrest him immediately!”
@@icecold9511 Her strategy was: Let most of the fleet die as they slowly burn up fuel, despite knowing a way to have those ships destroy large numbers of enemy ships with their last bit of fuel; while fueling up slow, unshielded, shuttles they *know* they can track, so that they can flee to a *planet* that she seems convinced the First Order can’t see…all while not letting anyone know the ultimate plan (which was a suicidal plan, almost nobody survived to reach the “protection” of a mine with, until Rae pulled apart the back wall, *one way in or out* betting all their lives that an abandoned facility’s communication system works and help arrives in less time than it took them to get there. Meanwhile the Finn, who was demoted over *saving the fleet* using their terrible resources (why did they have orbital bombardment bombers only?), gets treated like a suspected traitor or like a Karen treats anyone they perceive as “lesser”. She gives him a “don’t worry your pretty little head about it” when he questions what appears from the outside like insane panic (and was, since the plan was: “run to the panic room and call for help, while being chased by the guys equipped to destroy panic rooms.”) and then threatens to arrest him because he is questioning and thinking. I will admit, before the pure stupid of the plan, and the ridiculously easy to find holes in it, was revealed I was *convinced* Holdo was a traitor due to her actions (aided by the fact they played First Order music during her screen time and “traitor” music stings whenever she spoke) and attitude.
@@icecold9511 The worst part is, it was her and *Liea* that came up with that. Liea would *not* do that, given everything we have seen of her. She would have a plan to run to a powerful ally and then fight alongside them. If they don’t have a powerful ally, what good does calling for help do?
Having a chase where people can leave and return to the ship being chased is so fucking stupid. I'm not even a Star Wars fan and *I'm* pissed off about The Last Jedi.
*Runs finger along ground* *Lick finger* “It’s salt. This isn’t hoth guys, it’s salt not snow, this is a completely different and original planet and battle”
Which brings up another extremely important point: Why the fuck wasn't anyone wearing goggles?! Especially not the speeder pilots. Salt gets kicked up in the air, flies in the eyes of the pilot, that speeder is out of the game.
The funniest thing about that was seeing Star Wars fans who hated the movie try to seem smart by saying things like "Salt! That's fucking ridiculous! A salt desert just wouldn't exist, it's like saying that a desert is covered with pepper. Fucking stupid." Erm, no dude. Beaches and deserts with salt instead of sand do exist here on Earth. We're not mocking the salt desert idea itself, we're mocking the stupidity of the scene where the guy tastes the salt. We're mocking the obvious "See, this isn't like Hoth because it's salt instead of ice. We're so original," thought process of the director.
Mark Lucchese Jesus man, you guys are sad people. What is wrong with all of you? It's ok not liking a movie, but you want to hunt down its creator. Why most people who disliked TLJ are so childish at the point they can't accept different opinions?
@@Lazidu931 Actually the reasons that people dislike TLJ are completely valid. The #1 complaint is the literal VANDALIZATION of character Luke Skywalker. Luke is the GREATEST hero in the history of cinema, and Rian decides to make him into Grumpey-Cat, then have him die of Force-Exhaustion. We will NEVER get over such childish writing.
Kent Kaliber Luke died pretty much the way Yoda died, by nothingness, just gone. Star Wars has other dumb deaths like Padme's, so it's not anything new. And well, watching Luke from ep 8, for the first time he felt like a real person. You know, he failed his family, the galaxy, the Republic, the Jedi Order... he screwed everything up by creating Kylo Ren, so he did what I would expect: hide himself from everyone, waiting death. He has some deepness (is this word right? Idk) in this movie. He failed, and as the movie goes on he returns to be the old Luke Skywalker and saves the Resistance. Rey and Yoda were essencial to light this spark in him again. What is the problem of a hero falling? Batman falls in the end of the Dark Knight and in the beginning of the next film
Can we talk about how the “sack of potatoes” and Finn only knew each other for what, like a day, and she already “loves” him. That shits creepy not cute
NO!!!! It would have been terrible 😞, those two directors could have destroyed Disney’s reputation 😢.... by RAISING the quality of a Disney’s movie TOO MUCH!!!! 😳🙄😱😱😱🤣😂🤣😂
@@allenstanley3418 Yeah the action scenes in Solo were actually good, idk why so many people hate solo when I loved it. But even though Solo was good you still have to agree that spiderverse is better and could've made Solo better.
I don't think so, Ron Howard just put together a few re-shoots here and there.. so the original Solo movie is pretty much all still there. Without the backlash from The Last Jedi, and the stupid focus on the woke female robot Solo might have done okay.
I'm fairly sure that "saving what we love" quote, was supposed to end up being a famous star wars line. Instead it just sounded cliché and kind of stupid.
after she hypocritically sacrificed herself to save him after telling him he shouldn't sacrifice himself to save anyone, everything she said from that point forward lost any meaning.
I keep forgetting that I have watched any of the new movies. If it wasn't for the fact that I navigate this part of TH-cam periodically I can honestly say I could re-watch anyone of the new movies and it would be a brand new disappointment every-time.
Some people are too daft to see all the cringe worthy stuff in the movie and are blinded by the big explosions and CGI. Real fans see how much of a trash fire this movie was. Story, Characters, and even fight scenes as seen here.
Kev45 true, I saw some dude on reddit say that the throne room fight was “quintessential Star Wars” and praised Fin and Roses fight against the wealthy...
No the beautiful thing about last jedi is that no matter how many times you watch it, you find something *new* that sucks. (for instance i never noticed the “guys defending a door” thing at the end) I am positive you can take a random scene in this film and right a film/writer’s college final thesis as to why the scene sucks in every way possible. People are wrong when they say Rian does not have talent, he does, it takes ungodly amounts of skill to make a movie this broken with the budget and manpower it had.
@@skelskeleton fucking hell. You could find the same with the prequels and originals-more on the former. But you could also find something good out of it. The sequels were a mistake. They never happened
You know if Rey had joined Kylo Ren, and Finn had died blowing up that cannon, I would have liked this movie. It would have added character flaws, moral dilemmas, and emotion. All things the movie did a poor job of handling.
The John Hopkins Company agree somewhat. Rey joining the dark side could have potentially saved this movie. However, there was so much wrong with it (Rey being a Mary Sue and OP with barely any training being one of the many issues) which is why I say potentially. I would have loved to have seen her go dark.
@@jmc28J17 and given that Luke wouldnt die (which was lame too ) Kylo could still choose the light, and him and Rey would be the balance representants of the force like those force gods in "clone wars" show , that is what i imagined for them.
Had Finn actually sacrificed himself, it would have closed a weak character arch, going from a character worried only about staying alive and fleeing to one who sacrificed his very life in an attempt to save those he cares for. Rey joining Kylo and both of them leaving the first order would have opened up a lot of possibilities as well. While the resistance and First Order play tin soldiers, Rey and Kylo could have gone off to train together. She could have tried to pull him back to the light while he tries to get her more and more on his side. Instead, fuck all.
I really disagree with both. Even if you think the movies are bad, there are a few memorable, awesome (even if not always the best) scenes like the hyperspeed ramming, or Kylo and Rey fighting the Praetorian guards. Heck, even Luke drinking the fucking milk is memorable, in a bad way of course. As for music, there are some really good themes. Rey's scavanger theme, the resistance march, Kylo's etc etc
@@mandm7950 The two scenes you've mentioned are absolutely terrible, and plenty of videos float around explaining why. The Hyperspace ramming scene breaks every single large-scale space fight ever in Star Wars history: If it's possible to destroy a fully shielded ship (+ several star destroyers) the size of Snoke's Mega Star Destroyer with a comparatively tiny Rebel ship.... why on earth were Star Destroyers ever a problem? Just ram the command deck at hyperspeed from out of gun range. Use a droid instead of a person, if no one is feeling suicidal. And the Praetorian Guard scene is filled with mistakes. There are multiple points where the guards just straight up drop their weapons for no reason. Guards disappear off screen for extended periods or stand around doing nothing. At one point Rey kicks away 3 of them with a single kick. 3 people! With one kick! It's so completely stupid. I want to like the film, I really do. I love the prequels, the originals, and the Force Awakens. I love Clone Wars, Rebels, Solo and Rogue One, even the shitty Ewok kids cartoons from like 2003. But every single moment in The Last Jedi is terrible.
@@lucasrobin2788 I didn't say they weren't terrible (I don't think they are, I loved them and I'm not going to try to explain why, I'm sure you've heard enough of that already, just like I heard why people think they're bad. And I can see why people hate them, and kinda agree with the Praetorian guard fight: it looked worse the second time around) But the OP said there were no memorable scenes in both TFA and TLJ. I completely disagree with that. There were plenty of memorable scenes in both movies. And the music themes are just as great as the Original''s and Prequel's I really really understand your complaints, I really do, and I wish everyone could have fun with all these movies. Of course that's impossible, and that's ok.
Rian Johnson, in an interview, said that he doesn’t think he would be a good writer for his career because he takes so long to write it isn’t any good. This man has admitted he is not a good writer, has been painfully self aware about it, but then defends his monstrosity of a movie.
This movie's suck is literally infinite, every time I think I've noticed every single stupid thing about this film I see a new video that pointed out like 50 more ridiculous things I hadn't noticed, that may actually be an achievement of sorts.
David Mayberry Yep, the fact they ruined Luke says it all plus the stupid lightsaber fight scenes or should i say laser sword like how luke said it in TLJ.
That's what happens when they give full control to a director who's only success has been directing (not even writing) three Breaking Bad episodes. Yeah they were good episodes but an amazing team already scripted it all, he just directed a fantastic cast, one of which directs him fucking self some episodes. I still have no idea what they were thinking hiring him.
DaScorpionSting You do realize he sais ”laser sword” in a sarcastic way in that scene to underline the joke he made? All the hope for humanity is lost because you are so fucking stupid.
TLJ literally stole the entire story of one cruiser slowly trying to escape from their enemy’s fleet from the Malevolence arc from The Clone Wars, but made it so much worse and so much more boring!
When children write stories expect childish stories. Make movie production a function of capability rather than the masters having looted our treasuries to buy iconic film studios.
Or you can. .. you know... move a'd watch actually good movies rather than accepting blockbuster garbage by considering you as a customer before someone who wants to appreciate a product of creation with artistic ambition?
I've always said, and still will argue, that the Prequals are FAR better than the Original Trilogy, though I'm alright if people disagree with that, as long as we ALL as Star Wars fans agree Disney Star Wars is NOT real Star Wars, and they're the real problem.
@@warr_toast1139 There can also be people that dislike the ORIGNAL TRILOGY by today's standards. I do not dislike them, far from it, but I accept that there are FAR more flaws with the original trilogy than with the prequals. People can make fun of Jar Jar all they want but he was a small aspect of the Prequals themselves, DEFINITELY not the level of plot-holes found in the Original Trilogy. Of course with Episode II as the exception, Attack of the Clones is the WORST not Disney Star Wars movie (still not bad in my book) but the Clone Wars Animated movie and show FAR make up for it. They are true to the characters and universe, if you haven't seen the show, do watch it. It's ACTUAL Star Wars content. Though I still say both are great, Disney is what ACTUALLY sucks.
The writing in the sequels drives me mad! I love Adam drivers delivery when he said, “I WANT THAT PIECE OF JUNK BLOWN OUT THE SKY!” You immediately understand that he hates that ship as Kylo Ren but you can also tell that Ben Skywalker probably resented or hated that ship too, there are a lot of layers in that line..... but then they ruined it by Finn saying, “oh they HATE that ship!” Disney and Ryan once again trying to prove to us that they think we’re stupid.
Exactly. It was implied he was just told off screen. _Unbelievable_ This really tells you everything you need to know about Disney Lucasfilm and what a shit they give about their own dumpster fire product.
Jeremy S. I’m late, but Rey already took the “sacred Jedi texts” from the little hut thing, so there was really no reason why Yoda did that in the first place! Oh hey Luke, let’s burn your house down!
@@valentins.905 No it isn’t we never get to see how Luke reacts to hearing his brother in law was dead. That should have been the moment Luke was spurred into action because he wouldn’t sit around after hearing Han died
Do more movies! Commentary skills: 12/10 Entertainment Value: 12/10 Argumentative Ability: 12/10 Use of Movie Clips: 12/10 General Video Content: 12/10 You can make this channel into a much larger, expansive commentary channel; think about it, you’re killing it with views and like ratios just with Star Wars, so I’m sure it will continue on for other movies you decide to tear apart with fantastically accurate criticism
@@theatfshotmydog8224 calling people who defend this garbage "retarded" is highly offensive to actual retards, which is usually itself used as a derogatory term for those with a mental disability such as autism or the like
I love this comment thread. They’ve never learned to respect opinions, but instead, resort to calling people retards for having a different opinion. I sometimes wonder what goes through their heads. How is insulting people because they like a movie a good idea?
@@niko-800 It's not that they like it, it's that they defend it. You can like anything as much as you like, but do not say that it's good just because you liked it.
Wow, that's sad. One day, you'll look and realize you've surrounded yourself in an echo chamber of malformed opinion from people whose only goal is to shit on other people.
@@Playhouse76 Actually, many critics will argue with TLJ defenders. MauLer, Rags, and Dishonored Wolf on EFAP will go out of their way to speak to such people. Many people will go out of their to engage with TLJ defenders. Please, tons of TLJ defenders attack people all the time. I've seen plenty of them being disingenuous too. Besides, you can like bad movies. It's just when you claim it's good. People are gonna question you.
@@Playhouse76 In an era of nihilism, where stories such as the Last Jedi are mirrors of that meaninglessness, taking solace with others that something great did bring meaning helps. S.W. was inspiring at one time. For many it is no longer the case and that is a loss. If there were facets of TLJ that were pulled off with passion but brought controversy then the echo chambers of malformed opinion would be valid. The fact is TLJ and S.W. is part of a corperate machine now. There is a sadness in that for many. Seeing characters that were part of a meaningful mythology turn into less meaningful characters, out of character characters is sad. Like many movies that are fabricated to work in western markets AND Asian markets means that culturally specific perspectives have to be stripped out in order to not alienate those markets. And that is at the heart of nihilism. Videos like this remind me that others still have those values that were once important.
@@Playhouse76 How about you counter the points made in this video rather than one strawman in the talkback. I get it, of course: You can't argue with facts so you pick on someone who recognizes those facts instead. One can even trick themselves into thinking that's good enough. But, nope, the observations made in this video speak for themselves. One would have to invent literal conspiracies (without evidence, of course) to explain away all the problems with this movie.
Movie starts with 400 Resistance members in multiple Hyperdrive capable ships - ends with 1 ship with less than 20 people in it. Stunning success. Rian Johnson must be taking writing tips from Star Trek Beyond ; a Movie Where Kirk starts the Movie with and intact vessel with Hundreds of Crew and ends with a small ship with less than 20 in it. Odd that.
This movie was so bad that it almost killed my love of Star Wars and Luke Skywalker, my childhood idol, but seeing people rake it across the coals makes me feel better.
dion't let star wars die in your heart, read the legends cannon. follow the path to the better times. Thrawn, mara jade, callista, jaina and jacen solo, and more are waiting in the "lost" books.
There are two main asian characters in The Last Jedi, one of them does a suicide run in a fighter craft... and the other crashes her vehicle... *sigh* how was there nobody that saw this and said "no"
Oh if you think that's racially insensitive, wait until you realise the fact that Ryan subtly endorsed racial segregation by sending all the non-white characters on a completely pointless side-quest that achieves nothing so that the white people could drive the actual (albeit terrible) plot of the movie.
@wefinishthis now Poe didn’t accomplish much either tho :/ he almost did and was cheering for ‘im...what a waste Rian loves throwing it subtle racial jabs in his films this far, I swear Knives Out was a decent film but y’all can’t deny
When I took a creative writing class in grad school, I was taught a pretty simple lesson; "show, don't tell." Rian failed that very basic rule of fiction, and his writing is just amateurish.
People are seeing the B versions of the Star Wars screenplays, from A ghostwriter. The A versions weren't chopped up and defiled! I know the ghostwriter and he sent in the B versions in order to get A deal for the A versions. It never happened and the world is stuck with the lower quality films. Disney never had to make them but they decided to do so anyways. It all comes down to greed... As for calling him an amateur...that is just not the case. He has written 80 percent of the most popular movies since 1977. Back to the Future, The Goonies, The Matrix, E.T., A New Hope and Indiana Jones are A drop in the bucket of all his work. He is retiring so there will be A drop in films when his stockpile runs out. Not that it matters...
@@DRFESTERPUS69 Yep... Lots of imposters in the entertainment industry. Like Matt Damon writing an Oscar winning screenplay! LOL Even J.K. Rowling is A fraud. The realise date of the first movie, the videogame and Fantastic Beasts all happened on Nov.16, which is the ghostwriter's birthday.
Not even amateurish. You can be amateurish but very imaginative and you may do your work with love. This work. This piece of shit story... It looks a script made within an hour by a person who lacks knowledge, passion and love for Star Wars. It is insulting, not amateurish.
Um, in Rouge One not super...Blind man with the stick kills 15 stormtroopers and he is not even a Jedi Knight, little ship cut Star Destroyer by pushing other Star Destroyer...meh.
Sorry, what? Not trained? They can't shoot him from 2 meters, even baby can do it. And there are 15 of them. And this guy has not lightsaber. And he kills them by button while they wear armour... And he throws sand to eyes of one of them through the helmet... Even Ewok battle was more realistic.
How Does Finn and Rose manage to fly these ”fighters”?? None of them were pilots! The New trilogi feels like fan-fiction written by a bunch of children who wrote themselves in as the unvincable protagonists
You can assume Finn has been trained as a trooper on at least the basics. Yeah, he was on trash duty, but show me a soldier who never had to do KP or a similar crappy job. With Rose, you can also assume she has basic flight training; just because she's a mechanic doesn't mean she can't fly a ship. I'd almost guess it's like many of us being able to drive a car.
The love scene between Finn and Rose made me finally understand it was a comedy movie, not part of an adventure saga. I laughed SO loudly in the cinema...
And in just a few minutes? It can not have been longer, since the FO walkers are still in the same place and the attack had not started after blowing up the gates. And he was walking through a salt-field, dragging an injured person behind him. By the time they returned, if at all, the fight should have been long over.
Tbh I like that one too. However, it wouldn't be possible for some reasons. The distance between the resistance fighters and the fleet of the First order were far off. It would be possible for Finn to disable the cannon (crash himself) if the distance were nearer. Nevertheless, if Finn weren't saved and was "sacrificed" in the film, the fighter and Finn would be roasted before reach it's eye making his heroic sacrifice useless. It's too late for him to disable a fired up cannon. The writing in the battle of Crait is bad, very bad. Like sacrificing your people instead of hiding behind a huge thick gate and prepare for a guerilla warfare. :c
I can’t. The Last Jedi literally only has one good scene (The Throne Room), but Finn heroically sacrificing himself might have redeemed this trash. It would have made far more sense than Luke dying. Critics calling this one of the best movies then telling fans they are trolls for not liking it literally boggles the mind.
American Born Patriot, DOA? You do understand that means "dead on arrival", right? Rogue One made plenty at the box office. Hardly DOA, even if you didn't personally like it. Hell, I absolutely HATE The Last Jedi, but it was hardly DOA because it made plenty. The only SW film that was ever DOA was Solo, and that's because TLJ was so bad that it left a sour taste in everyone's mouth.
SSPspaz Y'know, when apologists, like you bring up how the money was raked in and a critic like myself who had seen the OT when they first debut and the fact that I am a fan of these and other genres and of sci-fi and fantasy artists, animation and so on ( plus I draw and am practicing animation ) in addition to having a high discerning standard, therefore, to top it all off this is GEORGE LUCAS' STORY FOREVER so now in the possession of a franchise not having any forté in these genres on their own--hack ptui...The Black Hole ( 1979), The Black Cauldron ( 1980something). ...do you honestly think ( and do you even care?) this is an tale of Star Wars that has nothing of George Lucas? You are a fan of FAN FICTION.
American Born Patriot, what a rambling incoherent response. As a general rule, I loath Disney Wars. I'm no apologist, and even if I were, that is wholly irrelevant to my point. Literally my ONLY point was to point out your misuse of the acronym "DOA". For something to be "dead on arrival" that means that it's been rejected by the target audience before it can even be launched/released. Solo is the only one that fits this criteria because at the time of release, many fans didn't give a shit. This is reflected by the poor box office figures. I'm pretty certain Episode 9 will be DOA as well considering nobody cares now that Han, Luke and Leia are dead. Most fans liked or at least tolerated TFA and R1. Their box office figures indicate they weren't dead on arrival because plenty of fans went to see them. And as shitty as TLJ was, people weren't enraged until AFTER they'd seen it. So it sold plenty of tickets and can't be considered dead on arrival either. I'm not defending shitty films, only correcting your misuse of the aforementioned term.
When the mandalorian and rogue 1 has better action than a main series entry, you know shit has gone wrong. Hell, even the vader scene in rogue 1 is better than all of the action in this film
@@Alex-pk1iy Gotta take off those rose colored glasses and execute some critical thinking my guy. Take a look at almost any fight scene and it's nothing but guys with guns running up to him to get beat up instead of shooting. Mando constantly using his gear in stupid ways. Nobody taking cover or exercising any caution or self preservation. You'd think the scene in S2 Ep1 when someone tries STABBING Mando with a pistol would've clued you in.
@@spartansquid5931 they seem really childish as far as the combat scenes go, the clone wars was way better, I mean the fight scenes in andor are better than they are in mando like people drool over this show when it’s not even that good
You have made me hate TLJ even more...people have been ripping it to shreds for over a year...rightly so...but this is just another example of how much Ruin Johnson sucks at movie making. Thank you Robot Head. PS Good ol’ Roundhead is no longer attached to any upcoming Star Wars projects!!!!!
@@RevoltOfAges really? This movie was practically saying it had a political agenda. Poe, the white male who never thinks and gets in to trouble, wasn't his character in the first film at all. Finn and Rose. Comic relief instead of well developed characters, 2 Jar-Jars in one movie. Holdo, the new leader that screwed up everyone's chances of survival by keeping her "plan" a secret from the one that will most likely try to make his own plan to save the resistance. Who's plan works? The woman's obviously. Oh also she caused a mutiny because everyone thought they were being led to their deaths since the Badass Woman with purple hair has to keep secrets. Also her "sacrifice" destroyed fucking everything in the Star Wars universe. Also funny how the only female antagonist in the movie is on screen for a few seconds and killed off so it doesn't show that Women (and anyone else) will always fail if they are following white male leadership.
The thing that gets me about the slow space chase is that it isn't inherently a problem that it is a low-action sequence of the movie. But the problem is that they don't replace that lack of action with anything meaningful instead. That slow space chase would have been a great opportunity to explore some meaningful character dialogue. Maybe we could learn about Poe's history under Leia or why she formed the Resistance, or Finn's life as a Stormtrooper. But no, we needed to have Admiral Holdo clipping off Poe's nutsack for 45 minutes, and we needed Finn to go on a silly adventure of anti-capitalism on Canto Bight with Rose.
They should have gotten rid of the chase scene entirely, use the shuttles to escape and then maybe Poe, Leia and the others could land on a Republic city world under assault by TFO. That would give us time to flesh out the galaxy better, it’s better than a 2 hour space chase at least.
@@RogueFox2185 Very true as well. All I'm saying is that if there had to be a space chase, they could have at least used that screen time to have some meaningful dialogue happen.
I thought she was going to turn out to be a secret NO spy. Then it turned out she was just messing up any hope for Fin character development because she couldn't see the big picture, and didn't actually care about him. I spent that whole movie wanting to walk out but had to keep watching to see how much worse it would get. Saw Rogue One in theaters 3 times.
All I know is after 4 movies we haven't had one decent lightsaber duel and that annoys me to no end. You'd think that movies with the resources that Disney has at their disposal wouldn't be getting outdone by fan films, but here we are.
I mean, two of the movies had no characters with lightsabers in them (except for the Vader scene at the end of Rogue One and that was awesome). To compare with the previous trilogies, the first two movies of the OT had one bad lightsaber duel (ANH) and one good one (ESB) and the first two movies of the PT had one good lightsaber duel (TPM) and one bad one (AOTC).
I couldn't disagree more. I think the raw anger and fear in the forest fight at the end of TFA is fantastic. And as for choreography, Ren and Rey fighting the Praetorian Guard in TLJ is brilliant too. They've taken a fighting style and made it more impressive than in the original trilogy, but less CGI-flippy and ridiculous than the Prequels. I think these are the best lightsabre fights we've seen - a true evolution of RotJ's fights.
@@thethirdtrio I enjoyed it. I'm not going to watch a video of some neckbeard whine into a microphone for 20 minutes about how the magic space movies aren't exactly how he wants them to be.
@@IAmNinboy Your argument is really bad. Just cause people want a movie to be good so the criticize it doesn't mean they are somehow wrong to do so. The sequel trilogy is garbage, no lightsaber fight within them has beaten the OT or PT lol you have to be senile to believe otherwise
@Revan I just started getting into star trek and I am watching deep space 9 right now. I had to pick up another good sci-fi property to replace star wars and I was pleased until I found out that modern star trek is not different in values from modern star wars =( Deep space 9 has better everything than modern star wars (cgi/visuals/sound design excluded) Deep space Nine even does social justice better than any sjw story without being all SJW about it. I am happy to have a new great show but unhappy to be forced to come to terms with how much we have culturally regressed in terms of social justice(sjw's are parasites)
@Revan DS9 really knew how to show and not tell. They had good writing and avoided exposition as much as possible but it could be a little confusing when they initially bring up an important unexplained detail but when it was fleshed out a season or few episodes later the payoff was great. It respected the audiences intelligence which I love. This week I watched "the visitor" episode of ds9 and it was AMAZING. This was the first time tv had made me get emotional and forced me to shed a few tears. Probably one of my favorite tv episodes of anything ever.
Star Wars, 1977 ~ the whole saga begins with a much heavier, bigger spaceship catching up with a smaller, lighter ship. The Last Jedi, 2017 ~ big spaceships can no longer catch little spaceships
I don't know man, The Last Jedi is pretty good parody of the real Star Wars movies I was laughing non-stop but still believe that Space Balls did it much better though
I love your The Last Jedi material. Your calm and relaxed demeanor makes them even better. I'd watch any of your videos any day, before I ever watch The last jedi ever again. There is nothing about that movie I can enjoy, nothing.
Boy, this episode sure ages like milk. The Prequels were like some rare cheese or fish sauce. An aquired taste, sure, maybe a little funky, but still edible. TLJ? Barely lasted 2 weeks before people came to the general consensus that it was rancid.
I showed my wife's sister all the star wars movies when she was staying with us, she loved all the old ones, even the prequels! I remember her saying that she didn't like rey because she had no idea why she was doing anything or than maybe that she was lonely. She didn't understand why the fans were making such a big deal about the movies beforehand, she definitely understood afterwards, she was even yelling that Luke wouldn't do this or that during TLJ, she had me laughing about it
Nathan Guerrette dit Latulippe I think you should give more credit to the originals, the plot is the same, just different time, and for it's time, it really is well made, most people loved them, and when I say most people it really is that way, not like today. So you should at the very least put them at the same level of the prequels. Then, what you say about the prequels it's true, it's all true but they lacked a better script and directing when it comes to the seriousness of the character. Just look at little Anakin and compare it to the kid of ET. 2 completely different worlds of acting and directing. And the music was changed for a more action role rather than sentimental, which I liked (example: Yoda lifting the ship).
The timeline in my mind: 1. Episode I - The Phantom Menace. 2. Episode II - Attack Of The Clones. 3. The Clone Wars series (2003). 4. The Clone Wars movie (2008). 5. The Clone Wars Seasons 1-7, Episode 9 (2008-2020). 6. Episode III - Revenge of The Sith. 7. The Clone Wars Season 7, Episode 9 - Season 7, Episode 12. 8. The Bad Batch. 9. Solo. 10. Rebels. 11. Rogue One. 12. Episode IV - A New Hope. 13. Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back. 14. Episode VI - Return of The Jedi. 15. The Mandalorian. *and that’s the end*
@@Sploinkss And incredible music and sound design. I also really love the action. For example the scene with the Astro Mechs getting blown away during the blockade. Duel of the Fates was killer. It's a really awesome movie in my opinion. Jar Jar Binks sucked tho because of the poop jokes. That was dumb. And I think young Anakin was way to confident in the final act. He is sitting there in a cockpit while his friends are getting attacked by droids. And the he just flies into a space battle like it's nothing. No hate against the actors tho.
ThirteenG's it is. One thing I always liked about the prequels (liking doesn’t mean good. Tpm was average to me, but leaning towards the better side of things than bad) is the story and the themes. One thing the sequels don’t have
Your points hit home like a TIE fighter crashing into a fleet of resistance bombers. Amazing video, and your edits are top-notch. The mash up with the TIE getting destroyed in the asteroid field followed by the Snoke :o face still has me giggling, lol.
I have only sat through the dross that is TLJ once. You’re sacrifice of your time and commitment to revisit and analyse this “film” is not only commendable but heroic.
Abbas Zaidi I rewatched it recently and respected it more the second time. The themes and willingness to give ol Luke skywalker an arc that challenges the idea that heroes are infallible was pretty interesting
@@ianhughes4806 The idea to have Luke change wasn't the problem, it's how they did it. He defends and believes in a sliver of hope and light side for his father who was never in his life to begin with (thanks Obi) and has since become one of the most hated, feared, and brutal man in the entire Galaxy; and yet a sliver of evil shows in his nephew and he turned on a dime (even if it was only for a second), and then just completely gives up. No explanation to how or why he changed, no true answer to the conclusion to isolate himself (other than he was pretty much a whiny little brat), and then at the end of the movie, flips on a dime again and "Force Projects?" himself to save the Rebellion? With some back story and understanding it could've worked instead of just making a mockery of one of the most beloved fictional characters of all time.
If I were asked to choose between viewing a Star Wars spinoff movie starring Jar Jar Binks and viewing The Last Jedi again, I would rush to the Jar Jar Binks movie as if my life depended on it.
There's a comic about Jar Jar Binks' father who was a successful whale-fisherman guy (whose name is GEORGE) Jar Jar got him and his family stranded on an island. He attempted to kill Jar Jar, but since his wife wouldn't let him he tried to kill himself. It would be a great movie
It's like she's so out of touch with reality. The reason they hate the First Order is because it's killing those they love. The only want to save those you love is to kill that which you hate.
9:24 God I remember thinking this the entire time I was in the theaters for the sequels. They instantly throw the idea of the Falcon being a cantankerous-but-useful sort of carrier (as you'd expect a smuggler to have) and give it this identity of a legendary-but-unknown armored heavy fighter. Sure, Rey says it looks old at one point, but in TFA it's more nimble than a fighter (when they don't crash into Ilum after hyperspace jumping into the planet), in TLJ (as you see in the video) it's neigh invincible and a significantly better fighter than actual purpose built fighters less than 30 years old, and in TLJ they don't even consider that the Falcon could run into any real meaningful issues stopping it and just use it as a scene transition. The Falcon's condition and abilities went from being one of the main causes of conflict in the movies to being entirely disregarded
@@valenwood6299 i do my best to help, i always trash this movie when someone tells me that it is good, obv only casuals do that but they need to realize this is a travesty that dishonours everything sw is about
Original trilogy: action-packed classic dogfights in the vast and massive galaxy Prequels: entire cruisers blowing apart and clones & droids getting cut down simultaneously Sequels: bang bang **runs out of fuel**
@@ldelinlive Nope. +Seriously you're missing out if that scene in the last Jedi is the best fight scene you've ever erm - Seen + Here are just a small handful of better fight scenes: The Raid The Raid 2 The Matrix The Matrix Reloaded Atomic Blonde The Protector (Tony Jaa) one-shot ground floor to top floor stair fight Daredevil Season 2 - Roof to Basement fight Ong Bak (all scenes) Flashpoint (Donni Yen) SPL 2 (Sha Po Lang 2) Fist of Legend (Jet Li) Kill Bill volume 1(House of Blue Leaves) Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (Tea House Fight) The Transporter (Oily Fight) Jackie Chan Movies (approx 100) There are hundreds more ! If the Last Jedi's Throne Room fight is the best you've seen - then I feel genuinely sorry for you. Genuinely.
Poe Dameron is supposedly the best pilot in the Resistance. Kylo Ren is a skilled pilot with the assistance of the Force, and piloting skills inherited from both Han Solo and his Skywalker bloodline. When you put these 2 characters in the same setting in a movie, anyone would expect a starfighter dogfight between them. But no, Rian just allows Kylo to blow up the entire hangar so no more action is needed. Aren't the hangars supposed to be ray-shielded anyway?
"We don't win by fighting what we hate, but by saving what we love." Says Rose as she basically just let the First Order break open the base and be able to kill everyone inside.
Hey, Rose knew Finn wouldn't be able to destroy the cannon by himself, so he would have been throwing away his life for nothing. Remember Rose was the one who knew all about the cannon, which is why she was the one who explained it to everyone. ...no, wait, that was Finn.
10:00 • Fin sacrifices his life for his friends. • Rose sacrifices her life for her friend Fin. • Rose's reason for doing this is that it's wrong to sacrifice your life for your friends. • Huh?
Worst movie ever. Worst plot. Worst battle sequences. Worst quotes. It can’t get any sorrier than that. I love Star Wars, but the last Jedi is definitely not part of it. Nuff said.
@@argop4518 LOL so Im not a real Star Wars fan? I have all movies, watched all of them at least 3 times, watched cw and rebels, and my biggest wish is to have Disney+ so I can watch mando. Also, I’ve been collecting Star Wars lego since I was a kid
@@simonuser we hate the movie because we are fans, this movie threw out everything that we loved about star wars. by far the worst movie i have ever seen.
Every day I think about the creative potential that's been squandered with this franchise. How many published writers must there be in the world who grew up on Star Wars and would submit drafts for free, just for the chance to work on a Star Wars script? They need to stop recycling characters, scenes and plot points from the originals and hire people who can actually be creative. How about a detective story set on Coruscant? If set during the Old Republic era you could have the Jedi Council refusing to get involved, and if set during the Imperial era you could explore how tyranny interferes with justice. How about a film following the fortunes of a music band? Invent a new Jedi sport and do a movie about that. A movie about an Imperial fleet commander combatting criminal syndicates. A spy thriller. Anything! Anyways, great video. Your editing really compliments your argument.
the funny thing is 90% of the legends timeline is technically fanfiction that got the OK by the lucas group. they literally built the world post (and in several cases Pre-) Movies. Thrawn, the sissiruk, jedi academy, obiwan AND anikins times as apprentice (in the aptly named Jedi apprentice series).
@@alexandersen1372 Yep. My personal favourite was the Michael A. Stackpole Rogue Squadron series. Fantastic novels, all inspired by some fringe characters in the movies and a video game. Some of the fan films I've seen on TH-cam have been fantastic. Sure, many could do with some more work on their dialogue and script, but they have the virtue of being actual new ideas. The 15 minute short following a squad of stormtroopers could easily be expanded into a feature film that I'd be glad to pay and see.
Disney literally has decades worth of material to rip off from but they have done absolutely fuckall with it. They made one movie that was essentially a copypaste of a previous movie. They followed it up with another movie that shit on everything that came before it. Rogue One has been the only real decent movie. Solo was a generic movie featuring Chewbacca.
@@MaiAolei Thanks! I think that kind of proves my point about what fans really want. For me the best option would be the investigator during the Imperial era as noir fits quite well with the dirty aesthetic of the OT. You could easily weave in themes like decay and stagnation which, aside from being interesting in their own right, would also help to bridge the gap between the prequel era and the OT.
Nick Darras. Your idea that "Most Star Wars fans are really dumb" is an easy idea for any Star Wars loving person to understand no matter how "politically incorrect" or dumb and stupid it is.! Loser. Can your mind comprehend this? Dude.
Man that intro, Bladerunners “tears of rain” scene is an actual emotional scene, in a weird way everyone can related to it. Because one day all our memories will be lost… like tears in rain.
every time i hear that “saving what we love” line i am physically pained
You know that Irvin Kershner was the man who said that right?
Its unintentional comedy. She says the most nonsensical line right as the first order succeed in breaching the wall to kill everyone they love.
It's worse than sand. It's coarse and gets everywhere.
Chris Katko it’s rough and irritating
@@terragthegreat175 Man, I don't know if that it's unintentional... Nobody is so stupid, not even Rian Johnson. I truly believe he is trolling
through all movie, and that Rose scene is his masterpiece of trolling.
Its like the more you think about it the worse this movie gets.
Marco Maceo Pretty much.
That's why I watched the movie only once
True. I don't know why I keep exposing myself to more critique. I mean, I knew it had problems from only watching it once, but now I realize even more how nearly every single aspect of the movie is far worse than I initially realized. I never intend on watching again.
Thats what we're doing wrong tho, innit?
We're not supposed to think, just jizz our pants over the effects and the title "star wars".
@divorcedme yeah man gotta hate Dibney
“In Hollywood, remember kids, it’s not important if it’s high quality. It only matters if it makes money.” - Mark Hamill
This comment makes me disappointed and depressed...BUT ITS TRUE
I miss old early 20th century movies, they were so good and story were amazing. Hollywood now? Just pop a sec scene in it and it would be fInE
@@maxmuller8633 yeah but the good thing is that there are still some movies that are good.
@@foxtrothermite6499 Not enough to compare to the old days.
@@maxmuller8633 the "old days" still had some really shitty movies
"That's How we win by saving those we Love" - Rose to Fin seconds After she stopped him from saving dozens of his Friends
It’s not the actress’ fault it was the writers who made her say that
Also Holdo saved the day by kamikazing the First Order ship. She save the day by *killing what they hated*
Its even worse than Lucas in all of prequels dialogue. And that's quite a feat of storytelling.
@@chibiguardian7587 No one said its the actress fault. Everyone with an IQ over 0 can realize that the actors arent the problem when the script stinks
@@ahabduennschitz7670 You have waaaay to much faith in humanity, my naive friend ...
The directors getting fired then winning awards for spiderman into the spider verse was priceless.
Alan Pickett that was for Solo
@@joshhorton5449 Yes, there were two of them let go from Solo that went on to win the award for Spiderverse.
Alan Pickett spider verse was the most amazing movie. It’ll go down in history
@@tayminkane3678 It will go down in history but it wasn't the greatest movie, not by a long shot.
(In my opinion) The greatest Spiderman movie. Maybe not the best movie of all time.
Snoke gasping at the loss of a Tie-fighter killed me XD
when was that ? I missed it.. I'm glad I missed it
Haha this is great
I literally paused the video to scroll through comments to see if anyone found it as funny as I did.
Terdak 13 for real! You’re not alone XD
Roberto Vivancos it wasn’t in the movie. That was edited
“That’s how we’re going to win. Not fighting what we hate-“
*That’s exactly how you fight a war, though.*
Time for the Resistance to switch to NERF guns in TROS
Grandad always said the trick wasn't shooting the nazis, it was hugging each other
There's actually a non-idiotic argument for saving Finn (having an enemy defector can provide tons of valuable intel,) but the one time Finn actually gets to do this in the sequels turns out to be a trap so we can sUbVeRt ExPeCtAtIoNs. I don't even know what his purpose in the story is now besides being Rose's boyfriend. In TFA he was the audience surrogate, the character who is confused by everything so people have to explain it to him and the audience, and he sort of had a rival arc that got completely thrown away. In TLJ all of that's out the window because there's nothing for him to be confused about. Then his arc is the question of whether he'll run away or die fighting, but they answer it with "none of the above", to sUbVeRt the expectation that character arcs actually conclude with change. What's left for him to do?
I have to assume his time in Episode IX is going to be spent on a "will they or won't they" romance with Rose, because that's the dumbest possible thing I can think of for him to be doing. Finn was a really promising character, his breakdown at the start of TFA was actual good filmmaking, and seeing what they've wasted him on is worse than him just never being good.
@mjv he's literally a token just like Rose. Even Chewbacca became a token...
I mean... it hasn't exactly done great against the Taliban. "hearts and minds" is a phrase for a reason
Every single piece of tape and bit related to the new trilogy should be burned and annihilated. Completely erased and forgotten.
Truth be spoken.
BUT THE NEW LEGO STAR WARS AND BATTLEFRONT 2 DICE
No, it should be saved preserved so future generations can look upon that trilogy as a perfect example of how NOT to make movies.
That’s maybe like... a little dramatic brotha
Gone, reduced to atoms!
Star destroyers are literally known as one of the fastest large ships out there....hence the fact that the millennium falcon was special for being able to outrun them...
Yes and that would be why they would know the ship even after that many years. The Force is strong with that ship.
That's where star wars has a bit of a problem, star destroyers are presented as capital ships, but they're called star DESTROYERS. If they are actually destroyers it would make sense that they can move quickly, that's one of the main roles of a destroyer. That would be all nice and good, but they sure look like either battleships or dreadnoughts to me.
@Warrcoww You do realize that the name represents the ship’s immense firepower. The name means that it can destroy stars (in a figurative term) because it is so powerful. It does not point at the ship being a destroyer class.
@@warrcoww6717 ummm... lol
@@warrcoww6717
also, in space mass doesnt matter. the mass/thrust ratio does. yes, i know, star wars isnt a science fiction, still the star destroyers have huge thrusters.
“That’s how we’re gonna win. Not fighting what we hate, but saving what we love”
*Massive explosion kills everyone that could help with that win*
*sexual assault happens*
Hurray?
That explosion didn't kill anyone...
Carbonite Hunter Issa joke homie
Finn was trying to save the Resistance. Rose was trying to save the guy she had a crush on. This is supposed to be heroic?
And why the fuck did she have a crush on him? I guess I will have to read some EU-novel to learn about when they showed any sort of romantic feelings towards eachother...
I had a build up of frustrations with this movie as I watched it, I felt really annoyed and angry by what I was watching and when that happened I just sputtered and laughed. I was done at that point.
Such a dead horse but I'll be damned if I ever miss a beating!
I like this guy
darrenwastestime - Probably the best comment on The Last Jedi ever.
Lol
The more I watch these videos the more I phuqing hate Rian Johnson!!!!
Hahaha, exactly what I was thinking a minute ago "I've seen so many of those videos bashing Last Jedi, how about I stop already... Nah, it's never enough".
I remember sitting in the theater, watching this movie, and upon hearing the "...they're faster and lighter" line I was so aghast with disbelief I reflexively blurted out, "What?! There's no weight in space!".
I was promptly shushed, but then I heard a far-off voice from my left say, "He's right!".
Now, technically, there's still gravity in space, but it shouldn't be affecting the ships to the point where weight is an issue
its a kids movie, i compare it to transformers
You were experiencing drag in space? - Super Tactical Droid
@@Elite_Gamer_1337Star Wars isn’t for kids
@@starkjet2197 yh people seem to love this excuse being for kids doesnt excuse bad writing toy story is for kids and that film has incredible writing the first 3 movies all do being a kids movie doesnt mean its just for kids it means that they intend kids to watch it so they cant put to much swearing or phallic behaviour i doesnt mean you have to make to movie equivalent of waving your keys in front of a baby to shut it up
You know what I find hilarious? The fact that the only good thing to come out of TLJ, are the endless amounts of video's tearing it to pieces in a far more entertaining manner than TLJ could dream of being.
I agree. I'd pay these critics more than I paid for the ticket anyway. They do a better job than those who "revisited" the movie before publishing it to the masses.
Even my Wife(who only watches SW movies once(uber casual SW fan) asked me HOW Rey was able to defeat the Royal Guard and how laughable it was and cringe worthy of what they did w/ Luke..
It's as if they treated Luke the way they feel about the over 30 SW fans...
God this is so true, I've probably spent more time watching those videos on youtube than watching The Last Jedi (I refuse to type TLJ because it's a disgrace to my beloved The Longest Journey) and hell, it was so much more entertaining than that movie.
I KNOW!! HAHAHAHA!
What I find hilarious is that people parade around shit tier criticisms like Robot Head’s Disney Doesn’t Understand Lightsabers as sensible criticisms
*New Hope starts with a Star Destroyer sucessfully chasing a small ship.*
Oh dude, 10 minutes of pondering and more half of the sequels is copy paste concepts from the original.
This fact made me laugh pretty hard when I first saw 8
The opening and editing are brilliant!
Tractor beams
And another 10 minutes of pondering and the other half of the sequels is cannon ruining material.
Having a standard small cruiser hyperspace into a ginourmous ship and cutting it in half and the rest of the fleet to shreds... Yeah...
Wait a second
Why the f**k would spaceships stop if they run out of fuel?
There is no air resistance to stop them.
Hell they wouldn't need to constantly use fuel for forward motion since after a few minutes of thrust they could cut the engine and drift at a constant forever in a straight line since the first order even says they're faster.
The empire would catch up because they still have fuel, and the frame of motion is relative.
@@SpencerLemay But in the movie one of the empireal officers says that the resistance's cruiser is faster.
@@petchorus3398 Which must mean it can accelerate more quickly, and the rate that the gap in distance grows will get larger over time.
There is NO top speed of an engine in space. As long as it is producing thrust it will accelerate a ship. How fast you get to a certain speed depends on the thrust to mass ratio of the ship.
12:07 i love how the projectile fired form the ship flies in an arch. you can't mess up a space battle more than that.
well you could put all of your ships in the same plan and block 90% of your cannons, not use the fast tie fighters to intercept and harrass and ...... ohhh nvm..
"BUT THEYRE PROBABLY MAGNETIC" LOL OMG SW IS DEAD
@@zarthemad8386 You could also just scatter, instead of staying together. The First Order only had 1 tracking unit, so they could only follow 1 ship.
Finn knew there was only 1 tracking unit, because it was a crucial part of the Poe/Finn/Rose plan to disable it.
I dunno, arced shots in space battles are cool if they don't all arc the same bloody way....which just so happens to be down relative to the bloody ship...
It’s fiction
Jar Jar Binks was more usefull character than Rose Tico
Jar Jar’s last scene was 1000 times more important than anything that Rose did. And all Jar Jar did was walk next to a dead body.
I can't see a more fitting comment,considering he basically started the Clone Wars by voting for the Republic to use the clones
Hell, man, Greedo was more useful than potico-sack!!
Mesa da most important character dat exists. Mesa da key to everything!
@@JarJarStudiosPlus pls return in movey 9. I miss you
It’s like Rian Johnson had 4 month to write the last Jedi and he started it the day before it was due
Lmao 😂
He has said that he can’t work under a clock
Bro i could write a better trilogy in 3 weeks, than this.
i thought of a better story while taking a shit
I can relate to that tho.. I had a month for a school project and I began at 9:00 pm the day before..
Seeing how the last jedi script was seen as "good" gives me confidence that I can become a successful writer
Haha, I know how you feel. In fact I am fairly sure that if the people in a random YT comment section under videos like this put out heads together, we could write a better script than RLJ in about three hours, even with internet delay.
@@politicallycorrectredskin796 Reality check: No you couldn't.
In a Private screening before hand everyone was said to be happy even The rubbish Star Trek shows these days don't have that level of associated self delusion. But The Rise of Skywalker seems like it had some pretty extensive reshoots - where as it seems that they decided The Last Jedi didn't need them.
Opps
@@chesswizard31 For Disney Star Wars? Of course he could. A monkey could write for them and nobody would notice if he did it via home office.
@@chesswizard31 Because you're not Rian Johnsucker?
The fuel thing was hilarious after the Falcon (which is a cargo ship) can fly back and forth repeatedly.
Random Resistance member: “Why aren’t we using the freighter on board to go get us some fuel?”
Holdo: “That man is *thinking!* Arrest him immediately!”
Personally I liked how her battle strategy was to run to a safe place and send out a distress call. Can we try harder to channel a female stereotype?
@@icecold9511 Her strategy was: Let most of the fleet die as they slowly burn up fuel, despite knowing a way to have those ships destroy large numbers of enemy ships with their last bit of fuel; while fueling up slow, unshielded, shuttles they *know* they can track, so that they can flee to a *planet* that she seems convinced the First Order can’t see…all while not letting anyone know the ultimate plan (which was a suicidal plan, almost nobody survived to reach the “protection” of a mine with, until Rae pulled apart the back wall, *one way in or out* betting all their lives that an abandoned facility’s communication system works and help arrives in less time than it took them to get there.
Meanwhile the Finn, who was demoted over *saving the fleet* using their terrible resources (why did they have orbital bombardment bombers only?), gets treated like a suspected traitor or like a Karen treats anyone they perceive as “lesser”. She gives him a “don’t worry your pretty little head about it” when he questions what appears from the outside like insane panic (and was, since the plan was: “run to the panic room and call for help, while being chased by the guys equipped to destroy panic rooms.”) and then threatens to arrest him because he is questioning and thinking.
I will admit, before the pure stupid of the plan, and the ridiculously easy to find holes in it, was revealed I was *convinced* Holdo was a traitor due to her actions (aided by the fact they played First Order music during her screen time and “traitor” music stings whenever she spoke) and attitude.
@@icecold9511 The worst part is, it was her and *Liea* that came up with that. Liea would *not* do that, given everything we have seen of her. She would have a plan to run to a powerful ally and then fight alongside them. If they don’t have a powerful ally, what good does calling for help do?
Holdo: “That man spoke... slap him immediately!”
Having a chase where people can leave and return to the ship being chased is so fucking stupid.
I'm not even a Star Wars fan and *I'm* pissed off about The Last Jedi.
*Runs finger along ground*
*Lick finger*
“It’s salt. This isn’t hoth guys, it’s salt not snow, this is a completely different and original planet and battle”
Which brings up another extremely important point:
Why the fuck wasn't anyone wearing goggles?! Especially not the speeder pilots.
Salt gets kicked up in the air, flies in the eyes of the pilot, that speeder is out of the game.
SundayRoast its almost like the writers didn’t care...
Virgil "...This planet... I shall name it: "The Starwars community right now"..."
They may as well have said it's a white male.
The funniest thing about that was seeing Star Wars fans who hated the movie try to seem smart by saying things like "Salt! That's fucking ridiculous! A salt desert just wouldn't exist, it's like saying that a desert is covered with pepper. Fucking stupid."
Erm, no dude. Beaches and deserts with salt instead of sand do exist here on Earth. We're not mocking the salt desert idea itself, we're mocking the stupidity of the scene where the guy tastes the salt. We're mocking the obvious "See, this isn't like Hoth because it's salt instead of ice. We're so original," thought process of the director.
I will literally NEVER get tired of Videos ROASTING the joke that TLJ is and was. HORRID FILM !
Kent Kaliber if you heard good from this. Wait till Mark tells us about episode 9.
Me too, I just watched this in July 2019 and it's still fresh. TLJ was a mistake.
Mark Lucchese Jesus man, you guys are sad people. What is wrong with all of you? It's ok not liking a movie, but you want to hunt down its creator. Why most people who disliked TLJ are so childish at the point they can't accept different opinions?
@@Lazidu931 Actually the reasons that people dislike TLJ are completely valid. The #1 complaint is the literal VANDALIZATION of character Luke Skywalker. Luke is the GREATEST hero in the history of cinema, and Rian decides to make him into Grumpey-Cat, then have him die of Force-Exhaustion. We will NEVER get over such childish writing.
Kent Kaliber
Luke died pretty much the way Yoda died, by nothingness, just gone. Star Wars has other dumb deaths like Padme's, so it's not anything new.
And well, watching Luke from ep 8, for the first time he felt like a real person. You know, he failed his family, the galaxy, the Republic, the Jedi Order... he screwed everything up by creating Kylo Ren, so he did what I would expect: hide himself from everyone, waiting death. He has some deepness (is this word right? Idk) in this movie. He failed, and as the movie goes on he returns to be the old Luke Skywalker and saves the Resistance. Rey and Yoda were essencial to light this spark in him again. What is the problem of a hero falling? Batman falls in the end of the Dark Knight and in the beginning of the next film
Can we talk about how the “sack of potatoes” and Finn only knew each other for what, like a day, and she already “loves” him. That shits creepy not cute
Pshhh, I see people doing that shit all the time. In REAL life. But, they are just as delusional.
Spirit Lando is the other black dude in existance but according to Soythleen Kennedy he likes to fuck robots
@@CCbat33 ...what?
Which is probably why Finn stares at her like a stranger just sexually assaulted him. Because she did.
Mikanoes did you watch solo? lol
Wait, the people from INTO THE SPIDERVERSE could have directed Solo? HOLY SHIT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AWESOME!
NO!!!! It would have been terrible 😞, those two directors could have destroyed Disney’s reputation 😢.... by RAISING the quality of a Disney’s movie TOO MUCH!!!! 😳🙄😱😱😱🤣😂🤣😂
Solo was pretty good.
@@allenstanley3418 yeah and it could’ve been great had they not been fired
@@allenstanley3418 Yeah the action scenes in Solo were actually good, idk why so many people hate solo when I loved it. But even though Solo was good you still have to agree that spiderverse is better and could've made Solo better.
I don't think so, Ron Howard just put together a few re-shoots here and there.. so the original Solo movie is pretty much all still there. Without the backlash from The Last Jedi, and the stupid focus on the woke female robot Solo might have done okay.
I'm fairly sure that "saving what we love" quote, was supposed to end up being a famous star wars line.
Instead it just sounded cliché and kind of stupid.
after she hypocritically sacrificed herself to save him after telling him he shouldn't sacrifice himself to save anyone, everything she said from that point forward lost any meaning.
It *could* have been a good line if Rose hadn't condemned the entire Resistance to death.
How did they not notice she- she saved him from killing himself by... almost killing him... and herself. Wut?!
@@jordangustafson1365 and killing the base
@@turtleanton6539 guess she doesn't love the resistance her sister died for.
This movie is so bad and the action is so forgettable that I seriously don’t remember half these scenes
I keep forgetting that I have watched any of the new movies. If it wasn't for the fact that I navigate this part of TH-cam periodically I can honestly say I could re-watch anyone of the new movies and it would be a brand new disappointment every-time.
Same. This movie was so bad my brain deleted it from my memory banks
It was a recap of empire strikes back and was a ship getting chased by another ship
@@bananatank9048 haha dude i couldnt even tell you if this was episode 7 or 8 :D
and i know fucking everything about star wars :D
I really cant remember anything about episode 8
I can't believe there are people that defend this crap!!
Chris Bakas believe it we’re here
It’s the sjw people that like it, that’s what the movie was made for
Some people are too daft to see all the cringe worthy stuff in the movie and are blinded by the big explosions and CGI. Real fans see how much of a trash fire this movie was. Story, Characters, and even fight scenes as seen here.
Kev45 true, I saw some dude on reddit say that the throne room fight was “quintessential Star Wars” and praised Fin and Roses fight against the wealthy...
@@kesh4171 Yeah. I really wanted at least a 3 minute Kylo vs Luke. Instead we got almost a dancing scene for 45 seconds! >:(
After the Disney sequels, the prequels don't look so bad anymore. We all owe George Lucas a big apology.
Prequels were always awesome
Lowering your standards when movies get worse is a slippery slope, don't do it
The prequels were at least enjoyable movies.
@@whade62000 The prequels are good stfu
@@finch6078 That gradually improved because they gave him less and less screen time.
What do you mean "worse than you remember?"
It's exactly as shit as I remember it.
No the beautiful thing about last jedi is that no matter how many times you watch it, you find something *new* that sucks. (for instance i never noticed the “guys defending a door” thing at the end)
I am positive you can take a random scene in this film and right a film/writer’s college final thesis as to why the scene sucks in every way possible.
People are wrong when they say Rian does not have talent, he does, it takes ungodly amounts of skill to make a movie this broken with the budget and manpower it had.
@@skelskeleton You're able to watch it more than once? Holy s**t. Dude, you may be a superhero.
@@skelskeleton fucking hell. You could find the same with the prequels and originals-more on the former. But you could also find something good out of it.
The sequels were a mistake. They never happened
@@30noir Imagine the amount of times Robot Head had to watch that shit to make this video.
Give it a chance... You'll find new ways it has disappointed you.
You know if Rey had joined Kylo Ren, and Finn had died blowing up that cannon, I would have liked this movie.
It would have added character flaws, moral dilemmas, and emotion.
All things the movie did a poor job of handling.
I agree to an extent, I don't think he should've died, just very injured or captured lik Han was, then that could've been a bit more interesting
The John Hopkins Company agree somewhat. Rey joining the dark side could have potentially saved this movie. However, there was so much wrong with it (Rey being a Mary Sue and OP with barely any training being one of the many issues) which is why I say potentially. I would have loved to have seen her go dark.
@@jmc28J17 and given that Luke wouldnt die (which was lame too ) Kylo could still choose the light, and him and Rey would be the balance representants of the force like those force gods in "clone wars" show , that is what i imagined for them.
Krzysiek Kozioł so much wrong with TLJ with logic and lore being the issues overall. It’s a shame the direction they went in.
Had Finn actually sacrificed himself, it would have closed a weak character arch, going from a character worried only about staying alive and fleeing to one who sacrificed his very life in an attempt to save those he cares for.
Rey joining Kylo and both of them leaving the first order would have opened up a lot of possibilities as well. While the resistance and First Order play tin soldiers, Rey and Kylo could have gone off to train together. She could have tried to pull him back to the light while he tries to get her more and more on his side.
Instead, fuck all.
Two films in and still no memorable scene or music theme .
Rogue One was more memorable than the main series fcol
I really disagree with both. Even if you think the movies are bad, there are a few memorable, awesome (even if not always the best) scenes like the hyperspeed ramming, or Kylo and Rey fighting the Praetorian guards. Heck, even Luke drinking the fucking milk is memorable, in a bad way of course.
As for music, there are some really good themes. Rey's scavanger theme, the resistance march, Kylo's etc etc
Rogue One IS the best Star Wars film. Even Better than Empire SB
@@mandm7950 The two scenes you've mentioned are absolutely terrible, and plenty of videos float around explaining why.
The Hyperspace ramming scene breaks every single large-scale space fight ever in Star Wars history: If it's possible to destroy a fully shielded ship (+ several star destroyers) the size of Snoke's Mega Star Destroyer with a comparatively tiny Rebel ship.... why on earth were Star Destroyers ever a problem? Just ram the command deck at hyperspeed from out of gun range. Use a droid instead of a person, if no one is feeling suicidal.
And the Praetorian Guard scene is filled with mistakes. There are multiple points where the guards just straight up drop their weapons for no reason. Guards disappear off screen for extended periods or stand around doing nothing. At one point Rey kicks away 3 of them with a single kick. 3 people! With one kick! It's so completely stupid.
I want to like the film, I really do. I love the prequels, the originals, and the Force Awakens. I love Clone Wars, Rebels, Solo and Rogue One, even the shitty Ewok kids cartoons from like 2003. But every single moment in The Last Jedi is terrible.
@@lucasrobin2788 I didn't say they weren't terrible (I don't think they are, I loved them and I'm not going to try to explain why, I'm sure you've heard enough of that already, just like I heard why people think they're bad. And I can see why people hate them, and kinda agree with the Praetorian guard fight: it looked worse the second time around)
But the OP said there were no memorable scenes in both TFA and TLJ. I completely disagree with that. There were plenty of memorable scenes in both movies. And the music themes are just as great as the Original''s and Prequel's
I really really understand your complaints, I really do, and I wish everyone could have fun with all these movies. Of course that's impossible, and that's ok.
M and M that’s a very fair and balanced viewpoint. You’re a civil person on the Internet, that’s rare. I hope you Have a nice day :)
Rian Johnson, in an interview, said that he doesn’t think he would be a good writer for his career because he takes so long to write it isn’t any good. This man has admitted he is not a good writer, has been painfully self aware about it, but then defends his monstrosity of a movie.
This movie's suck is literally infinite, every time I think I've noticed every single stupid thing about this film I see a new video that pointed out like 50 more ridiculous things I hadn't noticed, that may actually be an achievement of sorts.
David Mayberry Yep, the fact they ruined Luke says it all plus the stupid lightsaber fight scenes or should i say laser sword like how luke said it in TLJ.
That's what happens when they give full control to a director who's only success has been directing (not even writing) three Breaking Bad episodes. Yeah they were good episodes but an amazing team already scripted it all, he just directed a fantastic cast, one of which directs him fucking self some episodes. I still have no idea what they were thinking hiring him.
DaScorpionSting You do realize he sais ”laser sword” in a sarcastic way in that scene to underline the joke he made? All the hope for humanity is lost because you are so fucking stupid.
I'd like to know who thought watching Luke Skywalker drink milk from a monsters tit was a good idea.
Jeremy S. i loved that scene. It is so quirky that it is just ideal Star Wars scene. SW has always had quirky things.
TLJ literally stole the entire story of one cruiser slowly trying to escape from their enemy’s fleet from the Malevolence arc from The Clone Wars, but made it so much worse and so much more boring!
When children write stories expect childish stories. Make movie production a function of capability rather than the masters having looted our treasuries to buy iconic film studios.
and the Holdo vs Poe sublpot was lifted from the Pong Krell vs Clones arc, also from The Clone Wars, except worse and more aggravating.
At there it was explained the hyperdrive was damaged and Grievous got a hostage later explaining why they didn’t destroy the shot out right
and when Luke walked out? That was stolen from Escape From LA
I thought that scene was stolen from battle star galactica
Somehow the only thing that makes sense is the new movies are designed to be so bad everyone finally appreciates the prequel trilogy.
Or you can. .. you know... move a'd watch actually good movies rather than accepting blockbuster garbage by considering you as a customer before someone who wants to appreciate a product of creation with artistic ambition?
Or they´ve wanted to protect the fans from being upset about the saga ending forever, know we´re happy about it...
You know there can be people that can still dislike the prequels even by today's standards?
I've always said, and still will argue, that the Prequals are FAR better than the Original Trilogy, though I'm alright if people disagree with that, as long as we ALL as Star Wars fans agree Disney Star Wars is NOT real Star Wars, and they're the real problem.
@@warr_toast1139 There can also be people that dislike the ORIGNAL TRILOGY by today's standards. I do not dislike them, far from it, but I accept that there are FAR more flaws with the original trilogy than with the prequals. People can make fun of Jar Jar all they want but he was a small aspect of the Prequals themselves, DEFINITELY not the level of plot-holes found in the Original Trilogy.
Of course with Episode II as the exception, Attack of the Clones is the WORST not Disney Star Wars movie (still not bad in my book) but the Clone Wars Animated movie and show FAR make up for it. They are true to the characters and universe, if you haven't seen the show, do watch it. It's ACTUAL Star Wars content.
Though I still say both are great, Disney is what ACTUALLY sucks.
The writing in the sequels drives me mad! I love Adam drivers delivery when he said,
“I WANT THAT PIECE OF JUNK BLOWN OUT THE SKY!”
You immediately understand that he hates that ship as Kylo Ren but you can also tell that Ben Skywalker probably resented or hated that ship too, there are a lot of layers in that line..... but then they ruined it by Finn saying, “oh they HATE that ship!” Disney and Ryan once again trying to prove to us that they think we’re stupid.
They have to spell it out in case we didn't already get it 😒
"2+1=3!!"
"WOW!! 1+2 IS 3!"
@@infectedpotato117 exactly. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Dont forget that Luke discovering his friend of 30 years Han Solo died took place off screen. "Where is Han?" - " oh He's dead"...... *End Scene.*
Hey Yoda let's torch the Jedi library and end the entire Jedi legacy because, well, hey why not?
Exactly. It was implied he was just told off screen. _Unbelievable_
This really tells you everything you need to know about Disney Lucasfilm and what a shit they give about their own dumpster fire product.
Jeremy S. I’m late, but Rey already took the “sacred Jedi texts” from the little hut thing, so there was really no reason why Yoda did that in the first place! Oh hey Luke, let’s burn your house down!
You forget that it cuts to Kylo After that
Which is a brilliant move in my opinion
@@valentins.905 No it isn’t we never get to see how Luke reacts to hearing his brother in law was dead. That should have been the moment Luke was spurred into action because he wouldn’t sit around after hearing Han died
The legend is back
I literally gasp when I see a new video
Do more movies!
Commentary skills: 12/10
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Argumentative Ability: 12/10
Use of Movie Clips: 12/10
General Video Content: 12/10
You can make this channel into a much larger, expansive commentary channel; think about it, you’re killing it with views and like ratios just with Star Wars, so I’m sure it will continue on for other movies you decide to tear apart with fantastically accurate criticism
I see a lot of fellow Romans on TH-cam. What's going on here?
The Last Jedi, the only Star Wars movie that brings all the fans together, and it’s over their hatred to it 😂
Whatever you do, don’t go to Reddit, a lot of retards on there that love the Disney Trilogy...
@@theatfshotmydog8224 really? Lemme check.
@@theatfshotmydog8224 calling people who defend this garbage "retarded" is highly offensive to actual retards, which is usually itself used as a derogatory term for those with a mental disability such as autism or the like
I love this comment thread. They’ve never learned to respect opinions, but instead, resort to calling people retards for having a different opinion. I sometimes wonder what goes through their heads. How is insulting people because they like a movie a good idea?
@@niko-800 It's not that they like it, it's that they defend it. You can like anything as much as you like, but do not say that it's good just because you liked it.
"They're faster and lighter"
"...well it's a good thing we're a super-dreadnought with clear line of effect to those light targets then isn't it?"
I have found so many great YT channels because of how bad The Last Jedi was. That's something we all can say about the film! It inspired us.
Wow, that's sad. One day, you'll look and realize you've surrounded yourself in an echo chamber of malformed opinion from people whose only goal is to shit on other people.
@@Playhouse76 The movie is shit get over your self
@@Playhouse76 Actually, many critics will argue with TLJ defenders. MauLer, Rags, and Dishonored Wolf on EFAP will go out of their way to speak to such people. Many people will go out of their to engage with TLJ defenders. Please, tons of TLJ defenders attack people all the time. I've seen plenty of them being disingenuous too. Besides, you can like bad movies. It's just when you claim it's good. People are gonna question you.
@@Playhouse76 In an era of nihilism, where stories such as the Last Jedi are mirrors of that meaninglessness, taking solace with others that something great did bring meaning helps. S.W. was inspiring at one time. For many it is no longer the case and that is a loss.
If there were facets of TLJ that were pulled off with passion but brought controversy then the echo chambers of malformed opinion would be valid. The fact is TLJ and S.W. is part of a corperate machine now. There is a sadness in that for many. Seeing characters that were part of a meaningful mythology turn into less meaningful characters, out of character characters is sad. Like many movies that are fabricated to work in western markets AND Asian markets means that culturally specific perspectives have to be stripped out in order to not alienate those markets. And that is at the heart of nihilism. Videos like this remind me that others still have those values that were once important.
@@Playhouse76 How about you counter the points made in this video rather than one strawman in the talkback. I get it, of course: You can't argue with facts so you pick on someone who recognizes those facts instead. One can even trick themselves into thinking that's good enough. But, nope, the observations made in this video speak for themselves. One would have to invent literal conspiracies (without evidence, of course) to explain away all the problems with this movie.
So many holes in the plot and lack of logic ... it hurts to actually call this a Star Wars movie.
When i talk about the new Star wars movies i call them 1 and 2, not 7 or 8. They have their own Star wars universe
I’m a legends fan and I’m glad they didn’t do the vong story caus it would have been ruined for sure
@@PhyrexianSurgeon Yeah, if they tried doing the extended universe they would have probably done Jaina Solo like Ray and ruined her completely
Movie starts with 400 Resistance members in multiple Hyperdrive capable ships - ends with 1 ship with less than 20 people in it.
Stunning success.
Rian Johnson must be taking writing tips from Star Trek Beyond ; a Movie Where Kirk starts the Movie with and intact vessel with Hundreds of Crew and ends with a small ship with less than 20 in it.
Odd that.
@@vinvido2317
exactly. you cant even call disney wars fan fiction because the makers weren't really fans. legends forever
This movie was so bad that it almost killed my love of Star Wars and Luke Skywalker, my childhood idol, but seeing people rake it across the coals makes me feel better.
dion't let star wars die in your heart, read the legends cannon. follow the path to the better times. Thrawn, mara jade, callista, jaina and jacen solo, and more are waiting in the "lost" books.
Not almost...
I wouldn’t say it almost killed my love for Star Wars but it certainly made me wish Disney could start listening to what fans want.
Alex Andersen *NOT* cannon
@@MandatoryFruit The hope will die last. U think they will reboot Episode 7,8,9 ? Or make Ep 8 Non canon? I don't think so.. :(
There are two main asian characters in The Last Jedi, one of them does a suicide run in a fighter craft... and the other crashes her vehicle...
*sigh* how was there nobody that saw this and said "no"
Oh if you think that's racially insensitive, wait until you realise the fact that Ryan subtly endorsed racial segregation by sending all the non-white characters on a completely pointless side-quest that achieves nothing so that the white people could drive the actual (albeit terrible) plot of the movie.
@wefinishthis now Poe didn’t accomplish much either tho :/ he almost did and was cheering for ‘im...what a waste
Rian loves throwing it subtle racial jabs in his films this far, I swear
Knives Out was a decent film but y’all can’t deny
@@harrambou9468 Knives Out just reinforced my belief that Rian Johnson is the worst A-list director of all time.
When I took a creative writing class in grad school, I was taught a pretty simple lesson; "show, don't tell." Rian failed that very basic rule of fiction, and his writing is just amateurish.
People are seeing the B versions of the Star Wars screenplays, from A ghostwriter. The A versions weren't chopped up and defiled!
I know the ghostwriter and he sent in the B versions in order to get A deal for the A versions. It never happened and the world is stuck with the lower quality films.
Disney never had to make them but they decided to do so anyways.
It all comes down to greed...
As for calling him an amateur...that is just not the case. He has written 80 percent of the most popular movies since 1977.
Back to the Future, The Goonies, The Matrix, E.T., A New Hope and Indiana Jones are A drop in the bucket of all his work.
He is retiring so there will be A drop in films when his stockpile runs out. Not that it matters...
No he just showed the wrong stuff, like the filler (Canto Blight)
@@787brx8 So rian didnt write the script? all he did was direct this shit show?
@@DRFESTERPUS69 Yep... Lots of imposters in the entertainment industry. Like Matt Damon writing an Oscar winning screenplay! LOL
Even J.K. Rowling is A fraud. The realise date of the first movie, the videogame and Fantastic Beasts all happened on Nov.16, which is the ghostwriter's birthday.
Not even amateurish. You can be amateurish but very imaginative and you may do your work with love. This work. This piece of shit story... It looks a script made within an hour by a person who lacks knowledge, passion and love for Star Wars. It is insulting, not amateurish.
The action scenes in Rouge One were actually super cool. The Last Jedi was just embarrassing
Um, in Rouge One not super...Blind man with the stick kills 15 stormtroopers and he is not even a Jedi Knight, little ship cut Star Destroyer by pushing other Star Destroyer...meh.
@@Сайтамен they were just base guards, probably not very trained. The blind man was also gifted with the force and stormtroopers are definitely not
Sorry, what? Not trained? They can't shoot him from 2 meters, even baby can do it. And there are 15 of them. And this guy has not lightsaber. And he kills them by button while they wear armour... And he throws sand to eyes of one of them through the helmet... Even Ewok battle was more realistic.
You CANNOT beat that scene when vader slaughters the rebels like animals walking down the hallway
Not like Star Wars is supposed to be realistic. The blind man had to feel like a serious threat and beating up 15 troopers is a strong impact I guess
I’m so happy there are dedicated channels to roasting TLJ, because frankly it deserves it and worse
The KKK (Kathleen Kennedy Krew) needs to be thrown in a dungeon for blasphemy!
I don’t think ill get tired of videos shredding the last Jedi and making Johnson and Kennedy look like bigger morons.
I'm saving my bucket list so I'll have something to live for after Ep 9 flops and KK is fired.
We need more Force Awakens roasting too
Get a life
"Worse than you remember" Idk about that I remember it being pretty fucking awful
How Does Finn and Rose manage to fly these ”fighters”?? None of them were pilots!
The New trilogi feels like fan-fiction written by a bunch of children who wrote themselves in as the unvincable protagonists
So true! xD And Kylos lightsaber.. Always reminds me that I'm watching a bad bad fanfic every time I see it.
no fans were consulted in the making of this shyte
@@opporancisis8022 Kylo's lightsaber is actually a lightsaber used by Jedi. It isn't entirely unique to him.
It's basically the eye of argon
You can assume Finn has been trained as a trooper on at least the basics. Yeah, he was on trash duty, but show me a soldier who never had to do KP or a similar crappy job. With Rose, you can also assume she has basic flight training; just because she's a mechanic doesn't mean she can't fly a ship. I'd almost guess it's like many of us being able to drive a car.
“If you don’t like our movie ur a racist” -Rian Johnson
Hmmmm......only Sith deal in absolutes...
Did that dude actually say that💀
He never said that.
@@jeck8005 he may as well have
That would complete the absolute stupidity of these films, sorry to break it to you Brian, but ya films kinda suck
The love scene between Finn and Rose made me finally understand it was a comedy movie, not part of an adventure saga. I laughed SO loudly in the cinema...
Lmaoo me too
It could be a great movie If they just edit in Mel Brooks and rename it to "Spaceballs 2 - Sith in Spandex"
Finn should have started milking green milk from Rose's tit into a thermos...take a huge swing and then smile at the camera.
That''s funny you say that.
People laughed at that part when we were at the theaters.
Everybody groaned in my theatre
“We are meant to believe Fin drags her back fucking miles” 🤣
And in just a few minutes?
It can not have been longer, since the FO walkers are still in the same place and the attack had not started after blowing up the gates.
And he was walking through a salt-field, dragging an injured person behind him. By the time they returned, if at all, the fight should have been long over.
Fin sacrificing himself would have been an absolutely amazing story arc. Change my mind
Thats what heroes do. I was hoping for it man. I was like this dude is gonna save em all. He's a fuckin team player. And then it was stolen from us
@@landonburdette3907 No, just your expectations were subverted. Queue weird/creepy Rian laugh....
I’m glad he didn’t die because his death shouldn’t been in this crap film
Tbh I like that one too. However, it wouldn't be possible for some reasons. The distance between the resistance fighters and the fleet of the First order were far off. It would be possible for Finn to disable the cannon (crash himself) if the distance were nearer. Nevertheless, if Finn weren't saved and was "sacrificed" in the film, the fighter and Finn would be roasted before reach it's eye making his heroic sacrifice useless. It's too late for him to disable a fired up cannon.
The writing in the battle of Crait is bad, very bad. Like sacrificing your people instead of hiding behind a huge thick gate and prepare for a guerilla warfare. :c
I can’t. The Last Jedi literally only has one good scene (The Throne Room), but Finn heroically sacrificing himself might have redeemed this trash. It would have made far more sense than Luke dying. Critics calling this one of the best movies then telling fans they are trolls for not liking it literally boggles the mind.
Wow. This movie was actually way worse than I remember it being.
Everytime I see a new video about the Last Jedi, I get the same feeling. It's always getting worse... =/
@@fregabriel Agreed. It's like a birthday party given by people who hate you. The more things you unwrap, the more unpleasant it becomes.
I tried to watch it from Netflix for second time since the release, I didn't get far before I cringed out.
@@TealJosh I was sad i missed it in the movies, that all changed when i saw it on Netflix, yay depression.
Wondering if people will feel that with Black Panther...not sure. Avatar and Avengers still lingering.
This movie just made me appreciate Rogue One even more.
'Rogue One' Didn't have the usual Star-Wars kind of story construction. I now do appreciate it more [sigh].
Sawbonz Really? It's DOA.
American Born Patriot, DOA? You do understand that means "dead on arrival", right? Rogue One made plenty at the box office. Hardly DOA, even if you didn't personally like it. Hell, I absolutely HATE The Last Jedi, but it was hardly DOA because it made plenty.
The only SW film that was ever DOA was Solo, and that's because TLJ was so bad that it left a sour taste in everyone's mouth.
SSPspaz Y'know, when apologists, like you bring up how the money was raked in and a critic like myself who had seen the OT when they first debut and the fact that I am a fan of these and other genres and of sci-fi and fantasy artists, animation and so on ( plus I draw and am practicing animation ) in addition to having a high discerning standard, therefore, to top it all off this is GEORGE LUCAS' STORY FOREVER so now in the possession of a franchise not having any forté in these genres on their own--hack ptui...The Black Hole ( 1979), The Black Cauldron ( 1980something). ...do you honestly think ( and do you even care?) this is an tale of Star Wars that has nothing of George Lucas?
You are a fan of FAN FICTION.
American Born Patriot, what a rambling incoherent response. As a general rule, I loath Disney Wars. I'm no apologist, and even if I were, that is wholly irrelevant to my point. Literally my ONLY point was to point out your misuse of the acronym "DOA". For something to be "dead on arrival" that means that it's been rejected by the target audience before it can even be launched/released. Solo is the only one that fits this criteria because at the time of release, many fans didn't give a shit. This is reflected by the poor box office figures. I'm pretty certain Episode 9 will be DOA as well considering nobody cares now that Han, Luke and Leia are dead.
Most fans liked or at least tolerated TFA and R1. Their box office figures indicate they weren't dead on arrival because plenty of fans went to see them. And as shitty as TLJ was, people weren't enraged until AFTER they'd seen it. So it sold plenty of tickets and can't be considered dead on arrival either. I'm not defending shitty films, only correcting your misuse of the aforementioned term.
“It’s not about fighting what we hate. It’s about saving what we love.”
*Finn watches what he loved explode in the distance
12:48 "Not fighting what we hate, save what we love"
*the huge gate protecting their love one explode in the bg, whill they having a kiss*
Thank you jar jar binks
Holy shit, it really is so much worse than I remember
Add it was always pretty bad.
Same Bro 😂😂😂😂
Try to block it out it'll bring nightmares!
“I saved you” - Token asian
“Youve killed us!” - Everyone else
Not to mention nearly killing herself and the dude she wanted to save. They should NOT have survived that insane crash.
@@filmolosophy exactly... Makes no sense
At least she tried to do something good
Coshmack the carguy
Not really. What she did was incredibly selfish, leaving everyone else to die to save someone she wants to fuc
@@lloyd355 True
When the mandalorian and rogue 1 has better action than a main series entry, you know shit has gone wrong.
Hell, even the vader scene in rogue 1 is better than all of the action in this film
Mehhh, I'd be hard-pressed to say Mando has better action, that show was pretty shit.
@@spartansquid5931 wrong.
@@Alex-pk1iy Gotta take off those rose colored glasses and execute some critical thinking my guy. Take a look at almost any fight scene and it's nothing but guys with guns running up to him to get beat up instead of shooting. Mando constantly using his gear in stupid ways. Nobody taking cover or exercising any caution or self preservation. You'd think the scene in S2 Ep1 when someone tries STABBING Mando with a pistol would've clued you in.
I love Rogue One, and of all of it that I love, that Vader scene is my favourite
@@spartansquid5931 they seem really childish as far as the combat scenes go, the clone wars was way better, I mean the fight scenes in andor are better than they are in mando like people drool over this show when it’s not even that good
You have made me hate TLJ even more...people have been ripping it to shreds for over a year...rightly so...but this is just another example of how much Ruin Johnson sucks at movie making. Thank you Robot Head.
PS Good ol’ Roundhead is no longer attached to any upcoming Star Wars projects!!!!!
Yes he is, confirmed by himself via Twitter. Twas just a fever dream of the night...
...but I wish it was more than that.
Joshua Benton DAMN! Foiled again...unless he’s Lyin’ Rian again. One can only hope.
They should of used directors who were Star Wars fans from their childhood,instead of politically correct nonsense
should have*
@@30noir thanks
Lmao, you're seriously blaming the terrible writing in TLJ on "politically correct directors"? You people are seriously delusional.
@@RevoltOfAges really? This movie was practically saying it had a political agenda.
Poe, the white male who never thinks and gets in to trouble, wasn't his character in the first film at all.
Finn and Rose. Comic relief instead of well developed characters, 2 Jar-Jars in one movie.
Holdo, the new leader that screwed up everyone's chances of survival by keeping her "plan" a secret from the one that will most likely try to make his own plan to save the resistance. Who's plan works? The woman's obviously.
Oh also she caused a mutiny because everyone thought they were being led to their deaths since the Badass Woman with purple hair has to keep secrets. Also her "sacrifice" destroyed fucking everything in the Star Wars universe. Also funny how the only female antagonist in the movie is on screen for a few seconds and killed off so it doesn't show that Women (and anyone else) will always fail if they are following white male leadership.
Jeff Lebowski shut it snowflake
The thing that gets me about the slow space chase is that it isn't inherently a problem that it is a low-action sequence of the movie. But the problem is that they don't replace that lack of action with anything meaningful instead. That slow space chase would have been a great opportunity to explore some meaningful character dialogue. Maybe we could learn about Poe's history under Leia or why she formed the Resistance, or Finn's life as a Stormtrooper.
But no, we needed to have Admiral Holdo clipping off Poe's nutsack for 45 minutes, and we needed Finn to go on a silly adventure of anti-capitalism on Canto Bight with Rose.
Eric Santucci Finn and Rose subplot felt like when you change tv channels and watch a different movie during commercials.
They should have gotten rid of the chase scene entirely, use the shuttles to escape and then maybe Poe, Leia and the others could land on a Republic city world under assault by TFO. That would give us time to flesh out the galaxy better, it’s better than a 2 hour space chase at least.
@@RogueFox2185 Very true as well. All I'm saying is that if there had to be a space chase, they could have at least used that screen time to have some meaningful dialogue happen.
Well said
@WillFanofMany You're seriously saying the entire Republic was 6 planets in a single system?
Even if you assume that for some reason ships with more mass are slower, wouldn't the Resistance ships be gaining distance from the Supremacy?
Finn: Sees almost everyone blow up in the distance
Rose: Let’s kiss
Violently crashes 10,000 pounds of solid steel into one another at extremely high speeds.... Meh we're fine
“That’s what I was trying to do!!”
“...Let’s kiss.”
“What t-NO!!!”
Well she is kinky. LOL
I thought she was going to turn out to be a secret NO spy. Then it turned out she was just messing up any hope for Fin character development because she couldn't see the big picture, and didn't actually care about him. I spent that whole movie wanting to walk out but had to keep watching to see how much worse it would get. Saw Rogue One in theaters 3 times.
That kiss was so awkward literally no one was rooting for them
All I know is after 4 movies we haven't had one decent lightsaber duel and that annoys me to no end. You'd think that movies with the resources that Disney has at their disposal wouldn't be getting outdone by fan films, but here we are.
I mean, two of the movies had no characters with lightsabers in them (except for the Vader scene at the end of Rogue One and that was awesome). To compare with the previous trilogies, the first two movies of the OT had one bad lightsaber duel (ANH) and one good one (ESB) and the first two movies of the PT had one good lightsaber duel (TPM) and one bad one (AOTC).
I couldn't disagree more. I think the raw anger and fear in the forest fight at the end of TFA is fantastic. And as for choreography, Ren and Rey fighting the Praetorian Guard in TLJ is brilliant too. They've taken a fighting style and made it more impressive than in the original trilogy, but less CGI-flippy and ridiculous than the Prequels. I think these are the best lightsabre fights we've seen - a true evolution of RotJ's fights.
Yo you should watch Robothead’s video on how terrible the throne room scene actually was😂😂
@@thethirdtrio I enjoyed it. I'm not going to watch a video of some neckbeard whine into a microphone for 20 minutes about how the magic space movies aren't exactly how he wants them to be.
@@IAmNinboy Your argument is really bad. Just cause people want a movie to be good so the criticize it doesn't mean they are somehow wrong to do so. The sequel trilogy is garbage, no lightsaber fight within them has beaten the OT or PT lol you have to be senile to believe otherwise
I’ve seen smarter writing and better attention to detail in Syfy originals like Sharknado.
@Revan I just started getting into star trek and I am watching deep space 9 right now. I had to pick up another good sci-fi property to replace star wars and I was pleased until I found out that modern star trek is not different in values from modern star wars =(
Deep space 9 has better everything than modern star wars (cgi/visuals/sound design excluded) Deep space Nine even does social justice better than any sjw story without being all SJW about it. I am happy to have a new great show but unhappy to be forced to come to terms with how much we have culturally regressed in terms of social justice(sjw's are parasites)
Yeah its fucking disgraceful lol
wooow. I hadn't realized... This is so true, yet so sad. I want the real SW to come back :(
@@httohot I'll check it out as well :o I used to like Star Trek as a kid anyway!
@Revan DS9 really knew how to show and not tell. They had good writing and avoided exposition as much as possible but it could be a little confusing when they initially bring up an important unexplained detail but when it was fleshed out a season or few episodes later the payoff was great. It respected the audiences intelligence which I love.
This week I watched "the visitor" episode of ds9 and it was AMAZING. This was the first time tv had made me get emotional and forced me to shed a few tears. Probably one of my favorite tv episodes of anything ever.
Star Wars, 1977 ~ the whole saga begins with a much heavier, bigger spaceship catching up with a smaller, lighter ship.
The Last Jedi, 2017 ~ big spaceships can no longer catch little spaceships
It's like whoever wrote The Last Jedi had never seen a Star Wars movie before...
@@vanillajack5925 More like they saw them and decided it's opposite day for plot and movie direction.
"I've... Seen things... You people wouldn't believe."
Bilbo Skywalker
Bruh, that’s obviously Spider Man. Get it right, filthy causal
"All the people I've murdered by letting you live" - Victor Rogers
A
"Double the power, double the fall. " - Jar Jar Abrams
I don't know man, The Last Jedi is pretty good parody of the real Star Wars movies I was laughing non-stop but still believe that Space Balls did it much better though
omg we only have 50,000 tie fighters, we need to conserve all of them and never use them
Not to mention that we can't replace them if we lose them. I mean it's not like our flagship is a fucking giant mobile ship yard.
...but as soon as the falcon appears "SEND THEM ALL!"
Maybe they only had fuel for a half a dozen of them!!
:P
Osprey11 lol they needed to use all the tie fighter fuel for the AT-AT’s and the door laser
@@Rekthief :D
I love your The Last Jedi material. Your calm and relaxed demeanor makes them even better. I'd watch any of your videos any day, before I ever watch The last jedi ever again. There is nothing about that movie I can enjoy, nothing.
This movie is so bad it made me wish Jar Jar was back.
Jar jar still was a better writen character tho
Jar Jar was actually pretty funny, even though he was also pretty annoying.
I like Jar Jar and im not ashamed to admit it. But I hate Rose with all my heart
Ja jar was annoying. But not repelling. I GOT HUGE GAG reflex when i think of that shitshow of movie. Thanks Ruin John and JJ Eyebrows
The thing is Jar Jar was one annoying and dumb part of the movie but disney managed to make the movies in a whole annoying and dumb
"their next movie was spiderverse"
oof this is so sad
Inside info (my dad works for Sony)
It was a good thing that they didn't make Solo because it allowed Spiderverse to become what it is.
Which was good as fuck
Spider verse was Sony
@@nLRyderWWWYKI not what he's saying. the directors fired from Solo went on to make spiderverse which won an academy award
@@auxiliis8366 Into The Spiderverse deserved every award it received.
Boy, this episode sure ages like milk.
The Prequels were like some rare cheese or fish sauce. An aquired taste, sure, maybe a little funky, but still edible. TLJ? Barely lasted 2 weeks before people came to the general consensus that it was rancid.
And the original trilogy is like a timeless fine wine that only gets even better with age!
I showed my wife's sister all the star wars movies when she was staying with us, she loved all the old ones, even the prequels! I remember her saying that she didn't like rey because she had no idea why she was doing anything or than maybe that she was lonely. She didn't understand why the fans were making such a big deal about the movies beforehand, she definitely understood afterwards, she was even yelling that Luke wouldn't do this or that during TLJ, she had me laughing about it
leave the prequels alone
@@UmbraPsi your wife's sister knows what's up.
Nathan Guerrette dit Latulippe I think you should give more credit to the originals, the plot is the same, just different time, and for it's time, it really is well made, most people loved them, and when I say most people it really is that way, not like today.
So you should at the very least put them at the same level of the prequels.
Then, what you say about the prequels it's true, it's all true but they lacked a better script and directing when it comes to the seriousness of the character. Just look at little Anakin and compare it to the kid of ET. 2 completely different worlds of acting and directing. And the music was changed for a more action role rather than sentimental, which I liked (example: Yoda lifting the ship).
The timeline in my mind:
1. Episode I - The Phantom Menace.
2. Episode II - Attack Of The Clones.
3. The Clone Wars series (2003).
4. The Clone Wars movie (2008).
5. The Clone Wars Seasons 1-7, Episode 9 (2008-2020).
6. Episode III - Revenge of The Sith.
7. The Clone Wars Season 7, Episode 9 - Season 7, Episode 12.
8. The Bad Batch.
9. Solo.
10. Rebels.
11. Rogue One.
12. Episode IV - A New Hope.
13. Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back.
14. Episode VI - Return of The Jedi.
15. The Mandalorian.
*and that’s the end*
Eh idk I don’t consider any Disney Star Wars canon. Not just because I don’t like them but because George didn’t make them
“They were all russian accounts”
- Rian Johnson
Denial of reality and dismissal of legitimate criticism are essential skills for ideological fuckwits and their puppets.
What would Twitter losers like Rian ever do if all Russian IPs were banned?
@@arandompasserby7940 They would probably start blaming on the Chinese
I love how all these other guys were like "WTF man seriously". :D
@@arandompasserby7940 these were russian uaing proxies.
Still not as good as the chase scene in The Amazing Bulk
The Amazing Bulk: The Cosco Chronicles
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well
Yes
You’re a gentleman and a scholar.
Best Redlettermedia episode ever.
Just watched Phantom Menace again compared to last jedi it's flawless perfection
I’ll admit, Tpm wasn’t good and had tons of flaws, but it’s still ten times better than the tlj and I’d prefer it over the latter any day
At least tpm is entertaining and has somewhat of a good story
@@Sploinkss And incredible music and sound design. I also really love the action. For example the scene with the Astro Mechs getting blown away during the blockade. Duel of the Fates was killer. It's a really awesome movie in my opinion. Jar Jar Binks sucked tho because of the poop jokes. That was dumb. And I think young Anakin was way to confident in the final act. He is sitting there in a cockpit while his friends are getting attacked by droids. And the he just flies into a space battle like it's nothing. No hate against the actors tho.
ThirteenG's it is. One thing I always liked about the prequels (liking doesn’t mean good. Tpm was average to me, but leaning towards the better side of things than bad) is the story and the themes. One thing the sequels don’t have
I’ll try spinning. That’s a good trick.
Your points hit home like a TIE fighter crashing into a fleet of resistance bombers. Amazing video, and your edits are top-notch. The mash up with the TIE getting destroyed in the asteroid field followed by the Snoke :o face still has me giggling, lol.
I have only sat through the dross that is TLJ once.
You’re sacrifice of your time and commitment to revisit and analyse this “film” is not only commendable but heroic.
Abbas Zaidi I agree, and I have also only watched it once.
I agree. This was an humanitarian act
Abbas Zaidi I rewatched it recently and respected it more the second time. The themes and willingness to give ol Luke skywalker an arc that challenges the idea that heroes are infallible was pretty interesting
@@ianhughes4806 The idea to have Luke change wasn't the problem, it's how they did it. He defends and believes in a sliver of hope and light side for his father who was never in his life to begin with (thanks Obi) and has since become one of the most hated, feared, and brutal man in the entire Galaxy; and yet a sliver of evil shows in his nephew and he turned on a dime (even if it was only for a second), and then just completely gives up. No explanation to how or why he changed, no true answer to the conclusion to isolate himself (other than he was pretty much a whiny little brat), and then at the end of the movie, flips on a dime again and "Force Projects?" himself to save the Rebellion? With some back story and understanding it could've worked instead of just making a mockery of one of the most beloved fictional characters of all time.
If I were asked to choose between viewing a Star Wars spinoff movie starring Jar Jar Binks and viewing The Last Jedi again, I would rush to the Jar Jar Binks movie as if my life depended on it.
It propably actually does. Seeing that movie twice cant be healthy. 😁
If only to pretend we're in the good old days where Jar Jar was the epitome of sucky ideas in SW.
Jar Jar is the best
Well, Jar Jar IS essentially a sith lord playing a fool, so you're definitely better off seeing a spin off like that.
There's a comic about Jar Jar Binks' father who was a successful whale-fisherman guy (whose name is GEORGE) Jar Jar got him and his family stranded on an island. He attempted to kill Jar Jar, but since his wife wouldn't let him he tried to kill himself.
It would be a great movie
Rose Tico is just the worst, that scene with Finn, the dialogue, the action, the consequence, it makes absolute no sense
I'll defend TLJ, but fuck Rose. Insultingly annoying character.
@@fearedjamesIt's a shame, really. I've heard her actress is a really wonderful woman. Didn't deserve to be dealt such a shitty role.
It's like she's so out of touch with reality. The reason they hate the First Order is because it's killing those they love. The only want to save those you love is to kill that which you hate.
Rose, Finn and Rey are the worst character I have ever seen in cinema, Finn is just as much of a mary sue as Rey is and Rose is just useless!
i thought it was unnecessary
9:24 God I remember thinking this the entire time I was in the theaters for the sequels. They instantly throw the idea of the Falcon being a cantankerous-but-useful sort of carrier (as you'd expect a smuggler to have) and give it this identity of a legendary-but-unknown armored heavy fighter. Sure, Rey says it looks old at one point, but in TFA it's more nimble than a fighter (when they don't crash into Ilum after hyperspace jumping into the planet), in TLJ (as you see in the video) it's neigh invincible and a significantly better fighter than actual purpose built fighters less than 30 years old, and in TLJ they don't even consider that the Falcon could run into any real meaningful issues stopping it and just use it as a scene transition. The Falcon's condition and abilities went from being one of the main causes of conflict in the movies to being entirely disregarded
These movies make the prequels look like masterpieces.
I like the Prequels
No
Grimm yes
2 words. POD..... RACING. Ide watch a spinoff about pod racing.
Prequils are 👌👌👌
I love how the media zealously defends this horror of a film.
This comment aged like milk
Everyone now attacks it better than the Holdo Maneuver did
Ikr . But more and more people are coming to the light.
@@valenwood6299 i do my best to help, i always trash this movie when someone tells me that it is good, obv only casuals do that but they need to realize this is a travesty that dishonours everything sw is about
@@aesir1ases64 it wasnt that bad. Your exaggerating. I had my problems with it believe me
@@andresramirez4469 It was by far the best movie of the 3.
Original trilogy: action-packed classic dogfights in the vast and massive galaxy
Prequels: entire cruisers blowing apart and clones & droids getting cut down simultaneously
Sequels: bang bang **runs out of fuel**
That throne room fight scene was definitely one of the better fight scenes I have seen and very good camera work so can t really agree
@@ldelinlive It's actually quite poorly shot and you notice huge flaws throughout on a rewatch.
@@ldelinlive Nope.
+Seriously you're missing out if that scene in the last Jedi is the best fight scene you've ever erm - Seen +
Here are just a small handful of better fight scenes:
The Raid
The Raid 2
The Matrix
The Matrix Reloaded
Atomic Blonde
The Protector (Tony Jaa) one-shot ground floor to top floor stair fight
Daredevil Season 2 - Roof to Basement fight
Ong Bak (all scenes)
Flashpoint (Donni Yen)
SPL 2 (Sha Po Lang 2)
Fist of Legend (Jet Li)
Kill Bill volume 1(House of Blue Leaves)
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (Tea House Fight)
The Transporter (Oily Fight)
Jackie Chan Movies (approx 100)
There are hundreds more !
If the Last Jedi's Throne Room fight is the best you've seen - then I feel genuinely sorry for you.
Genuinely.
Poe Dameron is supposedly the best pilot in the Resistance.
Kylo Ren is a skilled pilot with the assistance of the Force, and piloting skills inherited from both Han Solo and his Skywalker bloodline.
When you put these 2 characters in the same setting in a movie, anyone would expect a starfighter dogfight between them.
But no, Rian just allows Kylo to blow up the entire hangar so no more action is needed. Aren't the hangars supposed to be ray-shielded anyway?
I like how that was the best way you could manage to make the prequels seem worthwhile lmao
😂 the base blowing up right after Roses speech had me rolling!
"We don't win by fighting what we hate, but by saving what we love."
Says Rose as she basically just let the First Order break open the base and be able to kill everyone inside.
Hey, Rose knew Finn wouldn't be able to destroy the cannon by himself, so he would have been throwing away his life for nothing. Remember Rose was the one who knew all about the cannon, which is why she was the one who explained it to everyone.
...no, wait, that was Finn.
10:00
• Fin sacrifices his life for his friends.
• Rose sacrifices her life for her friend Fin.
• Rose's reason for doing this is that it's wrong to sacrifice your life for your friends.
• Huh?
It's amazing that someone wrote that and said "yeah, ok this works"
Gosh, this movie is incompetent. The only good thing that resulted from it is the great constructive criticism in videos like this.
No wonder shitheads like you still watch his content.
@@stevem.9340 Excuse me?
@@yrwestillhere Don't mind Rian Johnson's personal licker
@@stevem.9340 that was uncalled for...
@@stevem.9340 That applies to you as well then, seeing as you're here.
Imagine if ray had a gun instead of a silly "laser sword". Everyone would think she was aimbotting
Please keep eviscerating these movies. You are the hero we deserve...
Travis Spaulding i think he's the hero we need, though i'm not sure we deserve him
>>You are the hero we deserve...
Rey be like
So I did some mining off camera
Fucking perfect 😂
5:10 Snoke gasping at the destruction of a tie fighter is absolutely brilliant!
That one Battlestar Galactica scene really hit hard when you showed it in that context
Worst movie ever. Worst plot. Worst battle sequences. Worst quotes. It can’t get any sorrier than that.
I love Star Wars, but the last Jedi is definitely not part of it. Nuff said.
If you really think this is the worst movie ever, then why on earth do you dare even thinking about yourself as a Star Wars fan?
Because real Star Wars fans don't consider sequel trilogy as canon.
@@argop4518 LOL so Im not a real Star Wars fan? I have all movies, watched all of them at least 3 times, watched cw and rebels, and my biggest wish is to have Disney+ so I can watch mando. Also, I’ve been collecting Star Wars lego since I was a kid
@@simonuser we hate the movie because we are fans, this movie threw out everything that we loved about star wars. by far the worst movie i have ever seen.
@@simonuser Then pay $7 and watch it?
Every day I think about the creative potential that's been squandered with this franchise. How many published writers must there be in the world who grew up on Star Wars and would submit drafts for free, just for the chance to work on a Star Wars script? They need to stop recycling characters, scenes and plot points from the originals and hire people who can actually be creative.
How about a detective story set on Coruscant? If set during the Old Republic era you could have the Jedi Council refusing to get involved, and if set during the Imperial era you could explore how tyranny interferes with justice. How about a film following the fortunes of a music band? Invent a new Jedi sport and do a movie about that. A movie about an Imperial fleet commander combatting criminal syndicates. A spy thriller. Anything!
Anyways, great video. Your editing really compliments your argument.
the funny thing is 90% of the legends timeline is technically fanfiction that got the OK by the lucas group. they literally built the world post (and in several cases Pre-) Movies. Thrawn, the sissiruk, jedi academy, obiwan AND anikins times as apprentice (in the aptly named Jedi apprentice series).
@@alexandersen1372 Yep. My personal favourite was the Michael A. Stackpole Rogue Squadron series. Fantastic novels, all inspired by some fringe characters in the movies and a video game.
Some of the fan films I've seen on TH-cam have been fantastic. Sure, many could do with some more work on their dialogue and script, but they have the virtue of being actual new ideas. The 15 minute short following a squad of stormtroopers could easily be expanded into a feature film that I'd be glad to pay and see.
Disney literally has decades worth of material to rip off from but they have done absolutely fuckall with it.
They made one movie that was essentially a copypaste of a previous movie. They followed it up with another movie that shit on everything that came before it.
Rogue One has been the only real decent movie. Solo was a generic movie featuring Chewbacca.
Kevin Fowler
I want to see everything you just said turned into a movie! Love it!
@@MaiAolei Thanks! I think that kind of proves my point about what fans really want. For me the best option would be the investigator during the Imperial era as noir fits quite well with the dirty aesthetic of the OT. You could easily weave in themes like decay and stagnation which, aside from being interesting in their own right, would also help to bridge the gap between the prequel era and the OT.
They ruined Star Wars. New films are really dumb i miss the old Star Wars
Most Star Wars fans are really dumb, or is that too politically incorrect for your mind to comprehend?? Loser
@@NickDarrashasgonefishing what
Just keep in mind that Disney is NON-canon and you will be good
Nick Darras. Your idea that "Most Star Wars fans are really dumb" is an easy idea for any Star Wars loving person to understand no matter how
"politically incorrect" or dumb and stupid it is.! Loser. Can your mind comprehend this? Dude.
The last episode of the mandalorian hinted at the sequels, please god no! there was a rumour the sequels are not cannon anymore.
Man that intro, Bladerunners “tears of rain” scene is an actual emotional scene, in a weird way everyone can related to it. Because one day all our memories will be lost… like tears in rain.