Torque twist! How to get rid of it!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ค. 2023
- #traxxastrx4m #torquetwist #injora #testing #rccrawler
Hi guys, welcome
Today we are going to try and eliminate the torque twist on the Traxxas, TRX 4M
I’m gonna be showing you what I have tried and how it actually affect the overall performance
In the last video when the Traxxas TRX4M bronco was pulling the trailer, the Torque twist what is unbearable.
So it was time to do something about it.
By the end of this video, the torque twist no longer affected it without the trailer, but I’m still gonna have to figure out something as when it’s pulling the trailer it still likes to do it.
If you guys wanna know what I did, you’re gonna have to watch the video 😅
Thanks for watching and don’t forget to like comment and subscribe guys and girls.
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being a newbie to RC I like the videos you produce. Keep them coming especially the tutorials on how to wrench!!
I found that overdrive on the front axle helps a lot as the truck pulls more than it is pushed from the back. You can't eliminate twist entirely, but i found this to be the most effective
Now that is definitely some awesome information! as I've also been doing some testing and realized that by putting overdrive on the front axle, it really helped a lot for the torque twist, and for the overall performance.
I really appreciate you watching and taking the time to leave this comment.
Thanks bro 🤜💥🤛
Is there a specific over drive for that? Or just injora front over drive gears?
You go with just the front being in under/over? 22t/10t
@@damonbridgmon7199 yes the front diff is running overdrive that's it.
@@rcfungames thank yoi
Look at that awesome Bronco and also definitely informative on everything you do and down to mostly every detail awesome video as always
Thanks so much Kevin 👍👍👍
I really appreciate your comments bro
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Gosh, I just love your course, the running water just super cool dude, Broncos looking sweet pulling the van on the trailer👍👍😎
Thank you so much Andy, your comments really are inspiring!
I will soon start doing some more features in the backyard course, and of course I will film everything I'm doing and share it.
Talking about the trailer I think it's time I get out and do a video with the trailer again.
So it's time I grab that trailer and upgrade it so I can make a video.
You have an awesome weekend Andy, and I'll catch you on the next one.
Been dealing with twist for a while and honestly, for whatever reason, it finally went away (mostly, really gotta look now) when I did the interior. I did a full interior with fender wells and the twist has almost entirely gone. I tried weight all over the place, every shock/oil combo I could come across, doubled the springs, etc. but still there. Something about doing the interior just made it almost totally go away. Also when I installed the Injora metal bumpers that helped a good bit too.
I ended up going back to 53 mm shocks, and I set the shocks up with a bit of preload on the rear right and left front, since then I have pretty much eliminated all the torque twist and body lean.
I will be fitting interiors soon, so I'll see how that affects the whole rig.
Thank you so much for sharing this information as I'm sure it will help quite a few people that read this comment.
You have an awesome day, and thank you so much for watching and commenting. 🤜🤛
Yeah, super cool, looks like it’s working. Love the rock van. I got the orange and silver one., I’m watching April 18 8:47 PM from Manchester Michigan. Sure appreciate you sharing. I watch for the next one. 👍👍😎
Hello Andy 🤜🤛
Glad you liked it bro, I've got to say I really do like the rock vans!!
I'm the one that really appreciates you watching and always leaving me a comment brother!
Thank you 👊😁
Have an awesome weekend! and I'll catch you on the next one.
Great video and thanks for the help on the injora shocks 😊
Thank you bro, I am glad to hear that the video was helpful!
I really appreciate you watching and commenting 🤜💥🤛
Another great and informative video 💯
Thanks for sharing 😁👍
Thank you Sophie I always appreciate your comments 🙏
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Top video man. Love it, look mint 🤝🤜🤛🤞✌️👍👌🔥💯❤️
Thanks brother 🤜💥🤛
Nice. Being new these are the videos important for me. Learning the fluids needed for shocks and the grease being used for gearbox and diffs. Cheers mate. Is that gear chatter we can hear?
Yes due to the fact that the housing is plastic and the gears are metal even with grease and make a horrible sound!! Which immediately went away once I changed to an aluminum transmission housing.
Bro I'm seriously glad to hear that the videos are really helpful.
I tried to cover all the basics, once you understand the basics from there it is easier enough to learn yourself.
I seriously appreciate you watching and leaving awesome comments like this.
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I did 30wt. Oil and heavier springs on my Defender and got rid of the torque twist it helps with being top heavy great Video. That’s the fun of the hobby is seeing what works with the mods ✌🏽
Exactly bro before I wasn't having any problems and the more weight and the longer the shocks the more torque twist I started getting.
Especially when I put that trailer on then I really noticed it.
It definitely took away the torque without the trailer but still likes to lean when I got the trailer on the back!!
I really appreciate you watching and commenting ✌️😉
Right on no matter what still having fun what it’s all about,👍👍😒
WoW!!! 😮❤😮
Very cool mods and very usefull info!
Thks for the share my Friend!
Hi bro 👋
Thanks so much 🤜💥🤛
@@rcfungames 💪🏻🐼🍻🐻👍🏻
You are Welcome my Friend!
Good video. I'm currently hashing out my High Trail for torque twist when it does steep climbs. You're covering a lot of bases here. Never actually considered doubling up springs but I am now. Thanks for the vid
Thanks bro 🤜🤛
I really appreciate the feedback and I'm glad the video was helpful.
These vehicles definitely suffer quite a bit from the torque twist, but with a few tweaks on the suspension you can get the body roll and torque twist under control.
Thank you very much for watching and commenting 👊😉
@@rcfungames i found this video from a Facebook group bit I was already subbed from a few weeks ago. 🤣👍
@@BroncLander awesome that means the videos are getting out there! 😁
I really appreciate your sub bro!! thank you very much 🤜🤛
Nicely done! Great HD camera, Great idea...
Thank you bro I appreciate the feedback 😉👍
Great video and thanks for the tips.
Thanks bro! but thank you for watching and commenting as I really appreciate it
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Great video as always
Thank you so much I really appreciate you watching and taking the time to leave a nice comment 🙏 👊😁
Have you considered a sway bar?
They aren’t to hard to make.
Or fabricate a hitch off the rear differential housing.
Put that trailer weight just on the axle. Steers alot better with weight off body. I made one for my Trx4m.
Changing the hitch location won’t stop torque twist though.
The sway bar will make a difference.
Such a beautiful course you get to play in. Seems very relaxing.
Thank you bro 🙏 and yes it is very relaxing great place just to chill out and have a crawl!
If you're ever in Portugal, hit me up! you can come and join me for a crawl🤜💥🤛
Yes, torque twist can be a bit of a problem! But if you look at, for example, motorsport, they have a lot of torque twist in both tractor and truck pulling. And you have to consider that your trailer was very heavy. Thanks for another great video!
Yeah definitely! The trailer is heavy, plus the Rock van 💪💪💪
And it is only when it's going uphill on flat ground and downhill it's okay
And it's definitely a lot better now with the double springs and oil 51WT
Really appreciate you watching and commenting 🤜🤛
Hello,
Very cool crawler and great crawling adventure!👍
Greetings Seven🖖
Hi my friend 🤜🤛
Thank you very much 😊
Greetings Ryan 🖖
@@rcfungames 😀
Beautiful!
Thanks bro 🤜💥🤛
IMO, real world pull rigs are designed/equipped for towing.
Off road rigs are equipped for off road, climbing, mud etc.
I don’t believe based on physics that you can get the same rig with the same setup to do both real well. Maybe a couple of bails of hay on a light trailer may get better results. But your doing heavy towing with the van on a twin x trailer.
If you had a TRX6 doing the same thing I’m sure things would look different.
Secondly have you considered an adjustable rear sway bar to cut down on torque twist?
I’ve made plenty for my 1/10 race cars.
And last, your rig looks pretty cool with all the stuff ladened in the body. But to me thats just asking for torque twist. Make a 6x6, weight it down, add plenty of motor with low gears, stiffer tires and that sway bar. That Rock van will be flapping in the breeze LOL 😂
Excelente trabalho tanto no carro como no vídeo ;)
Muito obrigado Luís 🤜💥🤛
Agradece-me muito o seu apoio 👊😉
another great video, I'll know all there is to know by the time i get my defender lol 😂 😂
Thanks Julian I really appreciate it😉👍
I'm glad to hear that my videos are actually serving a purpose 😅
And I thank you again for watching and commenting bro 🤜🤛
Thanks you mate great video
It's a pleasure! thank you for watching! and commenting! bro
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I have the same truck I’m gonna swap out the stock gears to the low range tomorrow but is that all you did to make it able to crawl so slow? I’m sure you have already shown your upgrades but I’d love to see everything you did to this truck. Crawls pretty nice
Hi bro, they are awesome little trucks especially after a couple of upgrades! The reduction gear kit definitely allows you to have a nice slow crawl, but to have an even smoother and more controlled crawl I am running bearings throughout the vehicle, metal helical gears in the axles and the 48T motor from Injora.
I recommend you grab a complete gearbox with motor from Injora with the metal reduction gears and all the bearings already included, you will have a lot more low-end power and still keep most of the wheel speed.
www.injora.com/products/injora-complete-transmission-with-180-brushed-motor-for-1-18-trx4m
Check out my Traxxas TRX4m bronco play list!! It will have all the upgrades I have fitted to it.
Check it out it might give you a couple of ideas.
I hope this helps anything else just let me know!
Thanks for watching and commenting bro ✌️😉
Thanks for sharing 😊❤
It's a pleasure! thank you very much for watching and commenting 🙏☺️
@@rcfungames you're welcome my friend 😹👍🥰
I took a shot every time you said "as you guys can see".... I have alcohol poisoning now 😅
Lol 🤣
double springs on torque side and single on other side, used adjustment for fine tuning. suspension still had good art. , but worked well on austar ax 8560 [pretty much a trx4m]
The problem I have is I've got too much weight on the body and if I only have the right side with a double spring the other side still leans!! I went back to 53 mm shocks with the original springs and that made all the difference.
It now behaves and performs really well.
I really appreciate you watching and leaving a comment. 🤜🤛
Heck, yeah and it sure looked good. Doing it, well, I’ll watch for the next one until then. Peace and chicken grease 😁👋👋😎
Thanks Andy, I always really appreciate your visit 🤜💥🤛
And I'm glad you enjoyed this one as well.
Until the next one bro! peace and chicken grease ✌️😉
Pretty awesome crawling
I agree bro 👊😉 thanks for watching and commenting ✌️😁
Great video. I found that for 53mm Injora setup with 58mm tires. The stock 51mm springs are better than doubling the Injoras. Is the exact same spring rate. .095 stock vs (.045+.050 Injora at least on the 53’s) and no slack even with the nut topped out
Thanks bro, I ended up going back to the stock springs!! And I got a set of 53 mm shocks instead of the 59!
Runs way better now, let's hope they come out with some stiffer springs 😁
@@rcfungames absolutely! I looked and looked too for them. Im real happy with how it runs now.
And Traxxas makes 2 more versions of stiffer springs i may try too. (The defenders get them factory in the rear)
👍🏽 Great vidéo
Thanks bro 👊😉
Génial
Thanks my friend 🤜🤛
Great video! Is this the trailer for the TRX4? Isn't it too heavy?
Thank you! I really appreciate that!
No this is actually a trailer that Injora made for the 1/18 scale trucks, it is extremely heavy as it's made from metal, I definitely don't recommend this trailer, if you haven't fully upgraded your Traxxas TRX4M 1/18
For the price it is an excellent product, just wish it had suspension and ramps 😅
What chassis do you have there? I’m looking for one for myself for my F-150
You've got two chassis available from Injora, you got the lcg carbon fiber chassis! And the lcg universal carbon fiber chassis!
In my opinion I prefer the universal carbon fiber chassis from Injora.
www.injora.com/products/injora-universal-lcg-carbon-fiber-chassis-frame-kit-for-1-18-trx4m-lay-down-servos
I found 1/18 scale sway bar for capra 1/18.
It should help. If you can fit it
Thanks bro I really appreciate it 🤜🤛
i just stretched the springs on the stock shocks and it worked fine
Yeah that would probably work! as the original springs are a lot stiffer than the ones that come on the injora shocks!
Hello!
The twisting problem is gone for me.
I cut a removed kicker in half with a ballpoint pen, put one on the left front and the other on the bottom of the right rear telescope (on the thin bar)
Try!
Hi bro
Awesome info! thank you for sharing.
Since this video I tried a few different things and using the original springs, was the best result.
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Thanks for watching and commenting ✌️😉
Hello sir i did the same as what you did with my bronco trx4m but i still have the torque twist and i dont tow any trailers any other suggestions would be good. And i love your crawler track looks awesome
Hi Jesse 👋
Please you don't have to call me sir my name is Ryan
I agree with you! it helped by fitting the two springs but I am still having issues with the torque twist after testing it multiple times in different situations.
I am looking for a solution for this if I come across anything I will let you know.
I'm sorry this didn't work for you, but I had to give it a try and this was the best solution I found so far.
Many people talk about limiting straps as well but I don't think that's the way to go.
Thanks for watching and commenting I hope I'll be able to help you.
@@rcfungames ok thank you and it was definitely worth a try that's what it's about trying different ideas to see what works the best and hello from Australia 🇦🇺
My injora 59mm shocks don’t rebound of u put truck down. Tryed tightening shock collar all the way down but doesn’t help. Should I put stuffer shocks. It’s a bronco body nothing on it
I experienced a very similar problem with the shocks from Injora, I recommend running at least a 50wt oil, and if you can find some stiffer springs or use the original springs but stretch them if you're running the 59 mm shocks.
The original springs have enough power to actually keep the body up and push it back up.
If you look at my most recent video on setting up the shocks, if you're having so much trouble with a rebounding then follow the instructions on how to have preload on your shock.
That will definitely help.
Let me know if you find the video if not I will share it to you.
I hope this helps cuz I know it's very frustrating! I really wish somebody would make some stronger springs.
@@rcfungames I switched to the stock springs on the injora 59mm shocks n that fixed my prob. Their springs are way to soft.
@@ll.7927 exactly what I've been saying from the beginning!! I struggled and struggled and couldn't figure out why the body just droops one way or the suspension is just fully compressed, so I decided to give the original springs ago and it's solved all my problems on all three rigs.
I am going to speak to Injora and see if they will make harder springs.
I'm glad you got the problem solved now get out and enjoy 👊😁
Oil dosnt alter tension or lean ,only springs will.
You'd have to put stronger springs in 1 side
Duh that's why I put two springs on it!!! if you actually watch the video!!! The oil was just to slow down the movement so it doesn't roll when throttling or reversing as it slows down the movement!
And if you watch the video you would see that it worked out perfectly fine and the torque twist is almost completely gone only when pulling the trailer which is completely normal as the trailer with the car is heavier than the Bronco!!
Still really appreciate you watching and commenting but try watching the video before you give some smart remarks!!
I don't have any torque twist and I still use the stock shocks on my orange Bronco...
That's awesome! Maybe it's because the original springs are a lot harder than the ones provided by Injora!!! And maybe just possibly your body doesn't have many accessories on it!!! so it doesn't weigh very much!! Therefore not causing body lean or much torque twist!
And it also depends on how much brass upgrades you have got fitted, the heavier the rig the more prone to torque twist, which results in body lean! Especially with the soft springs provided by Injora!!
If you have the option to do so, try the 10th scale desert lizard springs. Either the 100mm or 110mm work. I did it for my bronco, works great.
Cool thanks bro, will check that out.
Injora sells thicker springs for the 1/10th scale. I assume that will fit as well?
Hello sir did you put them desert lizard springs on your trx4m defender and what shockers are you using please I have the 59mm injora shockers on my trx4m bronco but I've done the thinker oil and doubled up the springs but I still have torque twist so annoying and I don't tow any trailers at all. Am running both sets of springs that come come with the injora shockers the soft ones and the slightly thicker ones just the same as this bloke did in this video but it didn't work for me please help would be great please and thank you
@@jesseedgell8698 I am also having the same problem! It's a lot better after I fitted the two springs but like you say it still has a tendency to lean over!!!
They recommend using the springs from the 1/10 desert lizard shocks
I still haven't been able to give this a try.
Also somebody else mentioned buying springs from Injora for the 1/10 shocks but I can see how they would fit on these small shocks.
I will keep messing around and if I find a solution I will let you know ASAP.
Ok thank you sir
It looks like you might get more clearance if you flip your rear bottom links.
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Limiting straps would solve this ?
Yes they will work!!! But so did 2 springs!
Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@rcfungames Kool no problem brother 👌
Sir, your trailer exceeds your vehicles tow rating, your never going to pass a cvse inspection 😊
Lol 🤣 good one! you made me laugh good 🤣🤣🤣
Use 70wt oil
Might give it a try!! but for now I'm quite happy with the outcome.
Thanks for watching and commenting 🤜💥🤛
Bearings…
What are you on about go and watch the full build of course the first things I did was fit bearings
You’ll never get rid of it, unless you get portal axels
Yep couldn't agree more this is the best I can get it!!
Next step is definitely getting some portal axles.
That's why I love my Traxxas TRX4'S as they don't have this problem due to having portal axles.
Thanks for watching and commenting 🤜💥🤛
I have the Treal portal axles on one of my defenders. They do not solve the torque twist. The heavier oil and heavier spring was more effective. The one nice thing is that the axles come with heavy brass outer portal covers. This stopped the wheels from raising when turning to the driver side. This has been my experience. I will make a vid demonstrating this!!!👍👍👍