I agree. I don’t think she should have touched her hair, but I think she asked of it was real, because it didn’t look real and it was too the root. Most people don’t dye their hair to the root, because it can harm your hair. Also, I thought it looked off, so I’m not shocked it was a wig (I personally think that shade of blonde isn’t cute either, it never looks natural).
@@Mi_rae228 It’s not the touching people are claiming is racist, it’s the fact she asked if it was a wig, because they think she was basically implying Asian people only had dark color hair. And writing that out makes people sound really dumb, especially since it’s obviously not her real hair. Pretty sure that woman was asking Jennie that, because she wasn’t sure if it was dyed or a wig. I don’t think she should have touched her hair either, but compared to that guy touching that idol on her hip/thigh (I don’t care if he’s got long arms, that’s creepy), Jennie’s hair being touched is barely rude and the woman seemed to be reasonable when doing it.
It’s about the fact Asian people usually have dark color hair and apparently pointing out that Jennie was wearing a wig was supposed to be a dig at it not being her natural hair color. That’s such a odd thing to take from the situation. I’m confused why anything outside of that woman touching Jennie’s hair is an issue.
Because people forbid that people of color can dye their hair or straight their hair the same way white people can have any haircuts or hair color and they think this is something the poc community wouldn't do. So much gatekeeping. 🙄
@@adamsmoberly you know, sometimes people asking if something is real or not because they're in awe, admiring how beautiful it is that makes you thought that must not be a real thing.
That woman shouldn't have touched her hair/wig without consent. Cases like this would be considered non-consensual touches. There's a rule and it doesn't matter if you're buddy buddy, you don't touch anyone without their permission or if you know there are people who are repulsed by touches in general. There's never a reason to touch people.
Well yea that counts.. I'm not saying I support non-consent actions but let's remember jennie grew up in a westernized country which these gestures are kinda normal and she's probably familiar with it. Jennie do looked kinda thrown off by the action of that woman but it's a stretch to say what the woman did is racism y'all overanalyzing everything to make like she's being bullied because she's asian you know to make people pity her and make that another woman hated for doing something not that deep
@@kae2002I'm actually not taking about the racism here as that's another issue but I understand from all sides why that question sounded so microaggression-y as women of color are always getting too much flack for having hair that isn't straight nor blonde but when we do, they asked us if it's a wig which not all people of color are always born with black/brown hair and curls/waves if you're of mixed race and white-passing or born with a genetical (and rare) condition. She could've said she liked it or that she has pretty hair or at least, not say anything, as Jennie can still get compliments from others anyway. I grew up in the West too, and there are people here in the West like me who still get thrown off and feels uncomfortable by touches, no matter what the gestures are like hugs or a pat in the back, nobody likes to be touched in general. Even I do too.
@@nicatina your paragraph = implying racism good point but that's my point your overanalyzing😞 I promise you that's not racism nor it have something to do with Jen's nationality or gene or something it's harmless and like kinda a girly/western gesture! The woman clearly thought it was a wig so she has to go 'is this real?' and it could also a way to approach a person you just met you joke around them.. it's not that deep PERIOD.
This demonstrates where cultural differences are most apparent. Touching someone’s hair may also be a demonstration of friendliness and admiration. Trying to kiss someone when it’s not a gesture of hello and you don’t know the person intimately is also considered rude in some countries. It’s not so much dependent on race but on the local culture or the culture you are from. So how can you ensure that each person is being treated appropriately at these multicultural events? Can people learn to be a little more tolerant?
Calling the hair thing racist is just ridiculous and a big reach, just because she touched it? It's not like she pulled out her white sheet and invented a time machine to the 1800s. I've asked my poc friends many times if their hair is real (mostly because I love how real and beautiful it looks) and they never take offense. She was probably amazed at how real it looked, because I for sure had no idea it was a wig before we got told that.
As a strawberry blond, wavy haired skandinavian who has travelled all over world, let me tell you: people touch your hair mostly for curiosity. For example in South Africa, in Malaysia, in China (o boy do they) and in Peru. If I would think they where anything but courius about my different (to theirs) hair colour and texture I would never have made so many sweet contacts and some new friends. Thats my take on touching my hair. ❤
Yeah, I'm Korean and I don't get how the Jennie hair thing is supposed to be racist in any way??? Maybe a bit rude or impolite, esp. if they don't know each other well, but I don't understand how its supposed to be racist or racial discrimination???
Here in the western world everything seem to be racist, why? She just touched her hair and to be honest, it is not common that Asian have blond hair, right? It is whole another thing to go and touch people how ever they like, here western people usually do just like that and that is not common in Asia so we should be careful how we approach somebody. But to always say that things are racist, i don't think so.
They're concern about the racism experience of these K-idols in the West. But they're racist too for South East Asian and South Asian idols in Korea. Tf, Western people doesn't care about people from these area of Asia but Korean do such a racist thing in Korea 😂. And they have guts to be mad to this Western idols 😂
And some Asians being racist allows those people to be racist to Asians? That’s childish, do they think we don’t understand the Ching Chang joke and the your’e yellow one. We should just stop be racist that’s all
EXACTLY asians do not have blonde hair unless they're mixed or have some medical condition, white ppl bring brunette isnt soo uncommon it's a stereotype most Asians have on west that ppl there are all honey blonde with blue eyes milky skin
& who are you to decide on that ? Jennie be twerking on ppl at parties she definitely doesn't mind her hair being touched by a women whom she went for a kiss for, yalls personal opinions & boundaries don't have to allign with jennie's or the others, yalll acting like she held onto her hair & tried pulling off that wig & it's actually embarrassing & ridiculous
The Hapa thing is maybe a misunderstanding. I think to call it racism you need to know context of the world and its use among the community of the person using it. In this case the author is Filipino and probably mix, as a mix person that's something we remark not as offensive but a way to integrate with us even if aren't the same races. And the word hapa it's complicate, cus there's people who call themselves hapa as a way to say they're mix, pacific islander and something else without specification and not derogatory meaning. Words change and transform their meaning with time and their use by other cultures. About anything else in the article I can't tell what are the intentions, and about the other examples, yes it's awful how they're treated. But their skin is thick, I love how skz managed the situation in the gala event, they showed them what it means to have class.
I quite literally couldn't agree with you more, you are indeed correct that the odds are in favor of that particular quote having never been intended to insult. I also agree on the point regarding Stray Kids. They truly seem to be very emotionally tough and I think they have such a deep love for their craft and have invested so much of their youth, their bodies, minds, hearts and souls into getting where they are. That no 2bit racism spewed by living septic tank who possess some of the highest levels of toxic masculinity and blatant ignorance I have ever seen from a paparazzi... To ever actually effect them. To put it simply, he was a tool. On the other hand, I'm sure that he successfully managed to ruin his career and his dignity all in that moment. So at least there was a bright spot! Because I'll be damned if I didn't get hit by a wave of pure secondhand embarrassment watching that clip. Embarrassment that DID NOT have anything to do with Stray Kids, IN ANY WAY. (In fact, I had the utmost amount of compassion and respect for their situation.) It was him who was completely embarrassing and a sorry excuse for both a "man" and just plain for a human being. He is in a league of his own with how utterly embarrassing his comments were FOR HIM. A full grown elder adult who was behavior like a 5 year old in terms of his comments, but s 2 yesr old in terms of thinking not only was everything he was about to say ok, its also funny, and pwople will like it. 🙄 Disgusting... I think that was the clip that actually bothered me the most now that I'm truly contemplating it. Which is definitely saying something. Im just glad they didn't allow it to sour them, nor did they retaliate. Very mature, unlike somebody. Oh, an I think you meant to say "if they aren't the same ethnicity", as we are all of the very same race. (Except that Paparazzi... no, just no. Or anyone who wears socks with sandals. Thats inhuman.) The rest of us however are most definitely all cut from the very same beautiful cloth. Good Ole Homosapiens Sapiens... the species with such a high superiority complex, we just couldn't help but to double down on the name. Lol
asking if that's her real hair is not racist because Koreans comes out of no where and touching a black girl's hair to see if it's real so they need to chill like damn
I knew when I saw Jennie’s hair, it looked off. I don’t think that woman should have touched her hair, but the question was harmless and definitely wasn’t about her race, but the fact her hair just didn’t look real (many people of many different races wear wigs and many look fake) was likely why the woman asked.
What happened to stray kids honestly shocked me,they are humans and as a Korean I took that racism personally too what’s wrong with people? But what some STAYs did by doxxing the journalist was not okay
They will always compare bands based on fame. It is ok to aspire to get the level of fame that bts got. Bts are a phenomenon and idols of idols . So there is no harm there. Just like if they ask jistin bieber if he aspires to be the next Michael Jackson. Come on.
There's also plenty of racist kpop idols in Korea like Nayeon, Wonyoung and Eunchae. Nayeon ignoring a black fan Wonyoung doing a disgusted face on dark-skinned kid Eunchae hugging only two Asian members of katseye and ignoring foreign katseye members.
Girl Eunchae ignoring one of Kasteye member is because she didn’t saw her and Nayeon one is because she didn’t saw it too but for Wonyoung idk I never saw the clip. And if they are racist does it justify other people being racist to other idols or Asian in general. I experienced it when I came in New York for a trip,do they really think u don’t understand the jokes for our eyes,Ching chang or when they say we are yellow and eat cats and rice everyday. That’s childish people should just stop being racist we are all humans whether it’s Asians,Black people,White people,Latinos ect.
4:31 they just don’t understand that’s why they standing there all lost and waiting on their leader like calm down bruv 5:19 let’s boycott those nasty ass magazines uuff
I think Jennie looked amazing but lots of girls go out in wigs where I live and when you're friends and the wig looks so good sometimes you ask "have you died your hair or is it a sig because I want one" you do stuff like that in your friends circle but maybe that women was a bit rude by grabbing Jennie's hair. Also that's disgusting that these beautiful women of different colour and race wasn't aloud their photo taken. Even with Stray kids those photographers were vile. Treat people as human beings with respect and kindness, the way we look has nothing to do with who we are so why treat others differently it's sad and infuriating. Lee Byung hun is one of my favourite actors and there's no way he should have gone through what he went through on and probably off set.
Not racist at all. She was asking if she dyed her real hair. She would have asked a white person who always had black or brown hair and suddenly showed up bleach blonde. People need to get a grip and a life. It's funny how some people are always trying to find fault in everything a white person does, but dont think of that as racist.
Ok, lets put things into perspective.. This is not racist. This is just someone that is entitled and low key jealous, tipical rich girl thing. This is about boundaries and respect, which some people in the west don't understand. No way on earth do you have the right to come up to another person that you have never meet before in your life and touch them like that, like if we were old friends. And why the need to ask me about my hair, in the industry celebs use a lot of wigs and extensions to change the color form and texture of their hair without having to bleach, color or perm it, that can result in hair damage. You can see that this person is acustom of doing these things cause she knows no boundaries.
The Jennie situation is such a reach. And the Yoona bodyguard thing - that bodyguard literally went viral for doing this to all the celebrities that day.
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The question about Jennie's hair ain't really racist. She could just be asking if it was just a wig or actually dyed it.
I agree. I don’t think she should have touched her hair, but I think she asked of it was real, because it didn’t look real and it was too the root. Most people don’t dye their hair to the root, because it can harm your hair. Also, I thought it looked off, so I’m not shocked it was a wig (I personally think that shade of blonde isn’t cute either, it never looks natural).
yeah, this channel owner seem to not have comprehension skill
Yes, honestly yes but her attitude towards Jennie actually justified this question. Racist or not idk but really rude to say the least.
I personally do not like people touching my hair but how is touching someone hair racism
@@Mi_rae228 It’s not the touching people are claiming is racist, it’s the fact she asked if it was a wig, because they think she was basically implying Asian people only had dark color hair. And writing that out makes people sound really dumb, especially since it’s obviously not her real hair. Pretty sure that woman was asking Jennie that, because she wasn’t sure if it was dyed or a wig. I don’t think she should have touched her hair either, but compared to that guy touching that idol on her hip/thigh (I don’t care if he’s got long arms, that’s creepy), Jennie’s hair being touched is barely rude and the woman seemed to be reasonable when doing it.
Idk if its just me but respectively, I think the Jennie situation is a bit of a reach
same i'm surprised people even attributed it to racism... it's a very common thing to ask with celebrities who have a drastic hair change
And it obviously looks like a wig, even I knew it looked odd. Her touching it was weird though.
@@adamsmoberly it really isnt she & jennie know each other...
It is
Girls touch each other's hair all the time specially if they are friends. I would agree it would be weird if this is their first time meeting. 😂
im asian but why does asking if the hair is real is racist ? im confused
It’s about the fact Asian people usually have dark color hair and apparently pointing out that Jennie was wearing a wig was supposed to be a dig at it not being her natural hair color. That’s such a odd thing to take from the situation. I’m confused why anything outside of that woman touching Jennie’s hair is an issue.
Because people forbid that people of color can dye their hair or straight their hair the same way white people can have any haircuts or hair color and they think this is something the poc community wouldn't do. So much gatekeeping. 🙄
@@adamsmoberly you know, sometimes people asking if something is real or not because they're in awe, admiring how beautiful it is that makes you thought that must not be a real thing.
Everyone wants to be a victim
The Jennie one is not racism the girl just asking if it was real for god sake she probably notice that it's a wig..
It was obviously not her real hair, but the woman touching it was kind of odd. I think that’s too personal for someone she just met to do.
That woman shouldn't have touched her hair/wig without consent. Cases like this would be considered non-consensual touches. There's a rule and it doesn't matter if you're buddy buddy, you don't touch anyone without their permission or if you know there are people who are repulsed by touches in general. There's never a reason to touch people.
Well yea that counts.. I'm not saying I support non-consent actions but let's remember jennie grew up in a westernized country which these gestures are kinda normal and she's probably familiar with it. Jennie do looked kinda thrown off by the action of that woman but it's a stretch to say what the woman did is racism y'all overanalyzing everything to make like she's being bullied because she's asian you know to make people pity her and make that another woman hated for doing something not that deep
@@kae2002I'm actually not taking about the racism here as that's another issue but I understand from all sides why that question sounded so microaggression-y as women of color are always getting too much flack for having hair that isn't straight nor blonde but when we do, they asked us if it's a wig which not all people of color are always born with black/brown hair and curls/waves if you're of mixed race and white-passing or born with a genetical (and rare) condition. She could've said she liked it or that she has pretty hair or at least, not say anything, as Jennie can still get compliments from others anyway. I grew up in the West too, and there are people here in the West like me who still get thrown off and feels uncomfortable by touches, no matter what the gestures are like hugs or a pat in the back, nobody likes to be touched in general. Even I do too.
@@nicatina your paragraph = implying racism good point but that's my point your overanalyzing😞 I promise you that's not racism nor it have something to do with Jen's nationality or gene or something it's harmless and like kinda a girly/western gesture! The woman clearly thought it was a wig so she has to go 'is this real?' and it could also a way to approach a person you just met you joke around them.. it's not that deep PERIOD.
This demonstrates where cultural differences are most apparent. Touching someone’s hair may also be a demonstration of friendliness and admiration. Trying to kiss someone when it’s not a gesture of hello and you don’t know the person intimately is also considered rude in some countries. It’s not so much dependent on race but on the local culture or the culture you are from. So how can you ensure that each person is being treated appropriately at these multicultural events? Can people learn to be a little more tolerant?
Calling the hair thing racist is just ridiculous and a big reach, just because she touched it? It's not like she pulled out her white sheet and invented a time machine to the 1800s. I've asked my poc friends many times if their hair is real (mostly because I love how real and beautiful it looks) and they never take offense.
She was probably amazed at how real it looked, because I for sure had no idea it was a wig before we got told that.
The bodyguard was so disrespectful to yoona and other women of color. Disgusting.
That same bodyguard man handled a white woman much worse but the media cropped it out. Also do you think P.O.C are superior?
As a strawberry blond, wavy haired skandinavian who has travelled all over world, let me tell you: people touch your hair mostly for curiosity. For example in South Africa, in Malaysia, in China (o boy do they) and in Peru. If I would think they where anything but courius about my different (to theirs) hair colour and texture I would never have made so many sweet contacts and some new friends. Thats my take on touching my hair. ❤
Yeah, I'm Korean and I don't get how the Jennie hair thing is supposed to be racist in any way??? Maybe a bit rude or impolite, esp. if they don't know each other well, but I don't understand how its supposed to be racist or racial discrimination???
I don't think that was racist... she was just asking out if curiosity
What!!!! If I see my friend with a new colour and I touch her hair does that mean am racist!! What!
Here in the western world everything seem to be racist, why? She just touched her hair and to be honest, it is not common that Asian have blond hair, right? It is whole another thing to go and touch people how ever they like, here western people usually do just like that and that is not common in Asia so we should be careful how we approach somebody. But to always say that things are racist, i don't think so.
It's not only the Western world.
They're concern about the racism experience of these K-idols in the West. But they're racist too for South East Asian and South Asian idols in Korea. Tf, Western people doesn't care about people from these area of Asia but Korean do such a racist thing in Korea 😂. And they have guts to be mad to this Western idols 😂
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Thought so too. That's why I'm not interested in East Asians nor do I like to visit East Asia countries.
And some Asians being racist allows those people to be racist to Asians? That’s childish, do they think we don’t understand the Ching Chang joke and the your’e yellow one. We should just stop be racist that’s all
I am happy you guys know what it feels like
the woman touching Jennie's hair was not racist, but that tweet about it was, those fans are brain rooted
That's a legit question. Asians genetically have black hair so seeing an Asian person with blonde hair is out of the ordinary.
Or maybe what she has on mind is, "is it real or wig".
EXACTLY asians do not have blonde hair unless they're mixed or have some medical condition, white ppl bring brunette isnt soo uncommon it's a stereotype most Asians have on west that ppl there are all honey blonde with blue eyes milky skin
Goodness! Touching a stranger's hair is so inappropriate! and even asking such a question is bad breeding!!
& who are you to decide on that ? Jennie be twerking on ppl at parties she definitely doesn't mind her hair being touched by a women whom she went for a kiss for, yalls personal opinions & boundaries don't have to allign with jennie's or the others, yalll acting like she held onto her hair & tried pulling off that wig & it's actually embarrassing & ridiculous
@@Serlin-o1nhow about society teaches people to just NEVER touch or twerk at anyone in general.
@@nicatina society did but ppl don't learn....
My mom always told me to not let anyone touch my hair if they’re not doing my hair they don’t need to be touching it
The Hapa thing is maybe a misunderstanding. I think to call it racism you need to know context of the world and its use among the community of the person using it. In this case the author is Filipino and probably mix, as a mix person that's something we remark not as offensive but a way to integrate with us even if aren't the same races. And the word hapa it's complicate, cus there's people who call themselves hapa as a way to say they're mix, pacific islander and something else without specification and not derogatory meaning. Words change and transform their meaning with time and their use by other cultures.
About anything else in the article I can't tell what are the intentions, and about the other examples, yes it's awful how they're treated. But their skin is thick, I love how skz managed the situation in the gala event, they showed them what it means to have class.
I quite literally couldn't agree with you more, you are indeed correct that the odds are in favor of that particular quote having never been intended to insult. I also agree on the point regarding Stray Kids.
They truly seem to be very emotionally tough and I think they have such a deep love for their craft and have invested so much of their youth, their bodies, minds, hearts and souls into getting where they are.
That no 2bit racism spewed by living septic tank who possess some of the highest levels of toxic masculinity and blatant ignorance I have ever seen from a paparazzi... To ever actually effect them. To put it simply, he was a tool.
On the other hand, I'm sure that he successfully managed to ruin his career and his dignity all in that moment. So at least there was a bright spot! Because I'll be damned if I didn't get hit by a wave of pure secondhand embarrassment watching that clip.
Embarrassment that DID NOT have anything to do with Stray Kids, IN ANY WAY. (In fact, I had the utmost amount of compassion and respect for their situation.) It was him who was completely embarrassing and a sorry excuse for both a "man" and just plain for a human being.
He is in a league of his own with how utterly embarrassing his comments were FOR HIM. A full grown elder adult who was behavior like a 5 year old in terms of his comments, but s 2 yesr old in terms of thinking not only was everything he was about to say ok, its also funny, and pwople will like it. 🙄 Disgusting...
I think that was the clip that actually bothered me the most now that I'm truly contemplating it. Which is definitely saying something. Im just glad they didn't allow it to sour them, nor did they retaliate. Very mature, unlike somebody.
Oh, an I think you meant to say "if they aren't the same ethnicity", as we are all of the very same race. (Except that Paparazzi... no, just no. Or anyone who wears socks with sandals. Thats inhuman.)
The rest of us however are most definitely all cut from the very same beautiful cloth. Good Ole Homosapiens Sapiens... the species with such a high superiority complex, we just couldn't help but to double down on the name. Lol
asking if that's her real hair is not racist because Koreans comes out of no where and touching a black girl's hair to see if it's real so they need to chill like damn
I knew when I saw Jennie’s hair, it looked off. I don’t think that woman should have touched her hair, but the question was harmless and definitely wasn’t about her race, but the fact her hair just didn’t look real (many people of many different races wear wigs and many look fake) was likely why the woman asked.
What happened to stray kids honestly shocked me,they are humans and as a Korean I took that racism personally too what’s wrong with people? But what some STAYs did by doxxing the journalist was not okay
They will always compare bands based on fame. It is ok to aspire to get the level of fame that bts got. Bts are a phenomenon and idols of idols . So there is no harm there.
Just like if they ask jistin bieber if he aspires to be the next Michael Jackson. Come on.
There's also plenty of racist kpop idols in Korea like Nayeon, Wonyoung and Eunchae.
Nayeon ignoring a black fan
Wonyoung doing a disgusted face on dark-skinned kid
Eunchae hugging only two Asian members of katseye and ignoring foreign katseye members.
Girl Eunchae ignoring one of Kasteye member is because she didn’t saw her and Nayeon one is because she didn’t saw it too but for Wonyoung idk I never saw the clip. And if they are racist does it justify other people being racist to other idols or Asian in general. I experienced it when I came in New York for a trip,do they really think u don’t understand the jokes for our eyes,Ching chang or when they say we are yellow and eat cats and rice everyday. That’s childish people should just stop being racist we are all humans whether it’s Asians,Black people,White people,Latinos ect.
SKZ is the beesstt
Mfer really said "I have a Korean car" is the same as "I have a black friend" to prove they aren't racist.
Like relax she was just asking a simple question qnd if someonenwas avoiding someones kiss thats not a big deal but ok i guess you know this better
4:31 they just don’t understand that’s why they standing there all lost and waiting on their leader like calm down bruv
5:19 let’s boycott those nasty ass magazines uuff
They are not nice people shame on them
I think Jennie looked amazing but lots of girls go out in wigs where I live and when you're friends and the wig looks so good sometimes you ask "have you died your hair or is it a sig because I want one" you do stuff like that in your friends circle but maybe that women was a bit rude by grabbing Jennie's hair.
Also that's disgusting that these beautiful women of different colour and race wasn't aloud their photo taken. Even with Stray kids those photographers were vile. Treat people as human beings with respect and kindness, the way we look has nothing to do with who we are so why treat others differently it's sad and infuriating.
Lee Byung hun is one of my favourite actors and there's no way he should have gone through what he went through on and probably off set.
I'm black but its not racist, she shouldn't have touched jennies hair but its likeley that she was in awe because of the color
Not racism. She simply didn’t give consent to being kissed/touched in public.
Most of these are... not racist at all. It really cheapens the cause when you call everything racist, it waters down what actual real racism entails.
If korean know racism meaning they should also not participate in this.
The Jennie situation is so ridiculous I can’t. So basically everything is racist now? Got it
All she asked is the wig her real hair. What was racist here?
Well, if you want to make it big in the West... 🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂
Not racist at all. She was asking if she dyed her real hair. She would have asked a white person who always had black or brown hair and suddenly showed up bleach blonde. People need to get a grip and a life. It's funny how some people are always trying to find fault in everything a white person does, but dont think of that as racist.
Ok, lets put things into perspective.. This is not racist. This is just someone that is entitled and low key jealous, tipical rich girl thing. This is about boundaries and respect, which some people in the west don't understand. No way on earth do you have the right to come up to another person that you have never meet before in your life and touch them like that, like if we were old friends. And why the need to ask me about my hair, in the industry celebs use a lot of wigs and extensions to change the color form and texture of their hair without having to bleach, color or perm it, that can result in hair damage. You can see that this person is acustom of doing these things cause she knows no boundaries.
The Jennie situation is such a reach. And the Yoona bodyguard thing - that bodyguard literally went viral for doing this to all the celebrities that day.
if you think this is racist you people need to get a grip.