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The only thing I would blame him would be that he is aware of knetz and didi train for years for his dream so how could he take private photos that could caught him. He should’ve been more careful about it. Unfortunately it is what it is when you can’t change the system them and still want to do what you want then don’t be a fool and post that photos!
I read on twitter that it is internalized misogyny since Korean women are so bad treated by men, they (maybe without realizing) treat the idols like that as well as a coping mechanism. It’s a crazy statement but it let me thinking.. maybe part of that it’s true
@@HazelnutCoughFee mmmm…. There might be a few but not majority like just compare the amount of people that are hating on this guy , it’s crazy. In the west, people don’t care if celebrities date, they care *who* they date because at least they know they’re humans that have feelings and go out on dates 😃 and even if the hate train is kinda ‘big’ the celebrities dgaf
The toxicy of fans is coming from the toxic parasocial relationships kpop industry is based on. It's even stronger in SK bcs they can see and meet the kPop idols often. They pretty much gaslight the fans into thinking they own the idols so they can milk their money and this is the result. It's insane
I think people forget that we came for the music. They are humans with talent they wanted to share. Well that’s what I came for music. This man was a talented human. Koreans blame them for being human, guess that was his flaw. They focus on matters like this instead of people that actually did bad things. No wonder companies are trying to make AI groups now. They can’t be touched like this
(TW: long response istg I don’t wanna hear “i AiNt rEaDiN aLLaT” lmaooo you been warned fam) “No wonder companies are trying to make AI groups” THIS! This right here!!! Fans wanna treat idols like robots…the companies said “aight bet”. Sometimes fans treat celebrities like subhumans under guise of “love and affection” then the idols become depressed and off themselves. THAT’S when they put their faces in their hands and cry but look at how they treat those that are still here with us. They cry for Sulli, Goo Hara, Jonghyun, Moonbin and many others *while in the same breath* degrading and bullying other celebrities/idols *while at the same time* forgetting how much THEIR faves were/are put through what they’re now dishing onto another smh 🤦♀️ us fans need to have a talk on the real and check the toxic fandom mindset when it rises (no pun intended but allow it yo lol) cuz fans are worried for BamBam rn and they should be... The behind the scenes of the industry is hard enough no? Fans should not be adding to the stress of what they’re already dealing with behind the scenes. Kpop fans have work to do in terms of learning how to love their idols without spitting on them at the same time. For example, if idols tell you not to show up at the airport, don’t disrespect their wishes by showing up at the airport just to get mad that security pushed you or your idol didn’t wave to fans (since they weren’t supposed to be there) like it’s just wild what fans put them through and expect of them. I hope Seunghan is okay. I hope many others stay strong as well. Thank you for coming to my tedtalk 😂💀
@@bellaelleira They say "it's their job as a kpop idol to not date!" yet when they'll find another prettier idol they'll stop following the previous one. This whole situation reminds me of ancient japanese prostitutes : their patrons would ask them to cut their finger to prove their love, of course there was no love involved on the patrons side so he would totally leave and she's be stuck with a finger already gone. the next man would come but she already cut a finger so it means she's not "fidele". so to avoid cutting all your fingers, they'd take corpse's fingers and give them away, because why waste your fingers on men who don't care about you, they just want to own you. It's like soldiers saying to prostitutes how they love them, then leaving after making them pregnant. Possessiveness isn't love, it's just your wish to own. If you love someone, you don't do something that'll make them scared or make them cry.
But that’s the point that Chinese and Korean fans are trying to say, is that they are not here for the music, they are here for the fan service and the boyfriend fantasy; some brutally honest Chinese fans even saying, if you want to date then don’t be an idol, cuz they literally don’t care abt an idol’s musical talents cuz they believe idols are talentless and if they want talent they would Stan a soloist or a real musicician, that’s why Koreans and Chinese are brutally bad when idols date, cuz they don’t see idols as “musical artists” they see them as a pretty fantasy, and some Chinese fans take it to the extreme saying idols are just glorified escorts, basically dehumanizing them to talentless escorts
@@user-sg4ov7ng4h yeah pretty much! The relationship is completely transactional in a sense where idols are meant to give and commit fully to them as their fans (because if it weren’t for us you wouldn’t be here blah blah blah mindset) while yeah you’re right, if a shiny new idol they like more comes along then they get to freely walk away and continue on while the idols lose what they’ve invested in this parasocial relationship. A lot of idols are forced to forfeit their health (mental and physical) to meet demands of fans and that’s usually what’s at a lost for them. People usually think money but why are these rich idols unhappy if it was just about the money? They would’ve been like “idc got your money anyway” but that’s not what’s happening. A lot of these people give themselves up and it seems in cases like this it’s like it’s not enough because they’re expected to have no life outside the studio and off the stage. They’re meant to give up their freedom, peace and overall sense of self. Fans I guess want fingers too idk. I see exactly what you’re saying. Love from fans is very conditional and it shows now more than ever. “We love you but only IF YOU **insert rules, laws in your specific country, terms and conditions, personal opinions and preferences here** and if you don’t live up to those expectations, we’ll find other idols to love BUT we’ll also ruin your career so YOU don’t get to have anymore fans to love you. _Saranghaeyo_ 🫰” lol the irony of it all to me flabbers my gast. How fans treat each other is a whole other topic too when it comes to toxic mindset within Kpop stans as a whole. It’s getting waaaay outta hand
The fact he was spotted by a fan at SM looking at the wreaths people have sent to try to bribe SM to remove him from the group, he went to the subway station after and saw some notes of positive fans but that’s the same night he decided to announce he’s leaving.
Somebody close to him really had it out for him because why would they share those photos knowing how those fans are. None of the stuff he did was bad but y’all know how those fans are.
Unfortunately, the K-pop industry has long been conditioned to be this way since 1st gen days. Companies care so much about selling a certain image to cater to fans and are afraid of losing profit if fans stop supporting their groups that fan demands end up taking priority. Its become so engrained in the K-pop culture atp that fans especially Korean ones have become hella entitled. The company always bend to their demands after all. I doubt things will ever change or at least not anytime soon. I dont even know anything about RIIZE but this whole situation is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard of in my 14 years as a K-pop fan🙄
I heard the stories about stalkers negotiating with ceos of small companies for clothes and other belonging of their groups, selling the schedule and more, but now it looks like so many people are acting like that and with the biggest companies, so how is for the small groups now? I kinda worried to even thing about it.
@@raffigani8303 will never change, its cultural, only way for it to change, is other countries besides Korea contribute in albums sales which overshadow Korea, then a change will happen, till then, its a status quo
You are missing the point, companies cather to this obsesive fans, these obsessed fans are the ones who handle the masterminds of marketing for their idols, they are the fanpages, they are the fan cafes Heart and fuel, these are the fans who paid for promotion cabs, promotion ads on Subway station. And ad on Subway for their idols bday can easely cost 2000usd ... SO yes, the girls need ro be obsessed to manage to spend thousands for their idols International fans Buy one album maybe two... A saseng fan guys 100 ... Yeah and tons of thousands of dollars of merch .... Companies want this type of fans ...
Not since 1st gen. Only since SM. The company that fans like you always claimed to be the best company representing the “golden age Of klop”. It Needs to end.
Great video! I personally unfollowed RIIZE on all social media sites after the finally kicked Seunghan out completely! I have zero understanding for what happened to him! Just because he had been in a relationship with a girl before?? That's the most average thing teenagers experience.
They act like he killed someone they are just jealous that they didn't date him first. This happen befote he even became a trainee so I really don't get it. Dating is not a crime. It's irritating how those delulu and self centered people always win and act like they have all the rights all the time.
He got involved with the wrong 'friends'... Someone betrayed him in the name of friendship n ruined his career... What goes around comes around. I hope he has strength to face this obstacle and truly Rise...
Doesn’t matter he did nothing wrong, none of what was revealed is a reason to get rid of the guy except the allegation of underage girl but that was a lie
Seunghan should graduate from college, open an agency where artists can love and be loved, a place where he won't have to write apology letters to supposed fans. I say allegedly because a true fan will support his idol even in times of trouble. And this boy has done nothing of which he should be ashamed, much less apologizing. The biggest blame lies with his agency, which did not protect him at any moment, but only itself.
I hope he has people around him to support and comfort him, I can imagine his state, actually I am concerned. But this is not fair at all, I hope he has multiple opportunities swing by and he thrives wherever he goes, his talented, and I am wishing him all the best.
This is so sad. It's unfortunate and wrong that he is being bullied this way. Why desire to be an idol if you will only be bullied by netizens. Hopefully, he can be a successful solo artist if he desires.
True fans would want their idols to be happy. I don’t get it. How is it that fans can control the lives of the idols and go on with their life being in a relationship? How many more lives have to be ruined? So sad. Where’s the back bone of the damn management?
Basically some Korean fans want male idols to be masculine and virginal, and encourage the false belief that any fan has a chance of romance with the idols. How stupid and unhinged is that?
Thank you for using your platform to spotlight this injustice to RIIZE / Seunghan!! I do wish you had included SM's statement about Seunghan leaving RIIZE, as it further clarifies and demonstrates that SM officially stated they succumbed to the bullying by the OT6, even though it was against even their own wishes and best judgement for RIIZE. It shows that his departure was definitely decided upon by SM.
This is the most ridiculous reason I've ever heard to demend a member to leave. I don't even know this group but this is so ridiculous and unbelievable, its nonsense. Don't leave and let those who can't handle it leave instead. 😒😒😒 I was happy for Riize's fandom when I heard he's coming back only to hear him leaving again days after. Our fandom's wish is for a member who left to come back and it still is after 5 years so I don't understand why this fandom will drive their member to leave after coming back.
K- Netizens are always quick to believe rumors or spread lies about their idols and in my view they are the Biggest, Toxic Bullies!😡😡I hope they prosecute these malicious people for invasion of privacy and do not accept any apology.😡
it's good that he did a self-reflection, but it's really unfair that person behind that social media or screen who posted it. Zero empathy. Their purpose is supposed to be just sharing music, not about their visuals and private life. Those toxic fans are too nosy and disgusting. He apologized for his members thinking the group is ruined because of him.
Seunghan probably got backstabbed by his circle. SM shouldn't put him on hiatus or make him apologized as he's not committing a crime. It's his past relationship and although i didn't like smoking, that is his personal choice. They shouldn't let those delusional fans controlled or decided things for him or any other idols.
What I dont get is that these fans act like he can't have a private life. Leave him alone, he is allowed to live his life. If people don't like it then don't follow him. His company should of supported him more. He shouldn't of had apologized for anything. He is an entertainer that's his job. Not to make everyone happy. He needs to make himself happy. If you don't like what he does, that has nothing to try and bring him down. Let him live his life in all reality he's not hurting anyone. People need to stop have expectations. His job is to entertain and that's it.
SM failed him, during the 10 months of hiatus they had an applicable amount of time to collect evidence and sue the ones involved in invading his privacy. His return should have been the final call, all other hate should have been handled accordingly with legal action. I believe this was all planned, they never wanted him back in the first place and just announced him back to give ot7 fans closure but it backfired more than they could ever have imagined.
This actually sounded plausible/possible!!!! I could write a whole bunch more about it, but will refrain.... it's just my opinion, and frankly I'm not in the mood for any potentially "rabid hate" myself!!! So TTFN!!!! 👋👋👋👋👋😘
I wish that too. I hope someday idols had enough of this treatment and make a movement against those crazy fans and change the industry but I’m dreaming too much 😪
Some of these mentally ill people posted dance challenge showing funeral wreaths and i-briize got their ig account so they're crying now saying "you're harrassing people" 😂
@@rftg1793 TT sign the seunghan petition online, unfollow/block all accounts (no streaming, no voting), spread the news and reach out to your local kpop stores! ; its working and if enough financial/popularity loss happens sm will LOSE
There is a way, you can find them anywhere on social media, the only problem is not knowing the Korean language since most of them can hardly speak English
Whoever dogged him in was jealous may the culprits for this disgusting saga get back all the ugly energies they sent out...and to the sick fans....f.... off who cares if you lot leave...k pop will become healthy after you leave.
I feel so defeated right now. For him especially. I have always been a fan of riize and have loved every member dearly in their own way. But to see this happen to a member, a part of this group, is very upsetting. He debut with them and was a part of their success, only to be separated for almost a year, announced to comeback, and then REMOVED from the group only a few days later. The pain he would go through is unbearable. And ot6 fans need to also realize that they are also hurting the other members as well. Sohee and seunghan were very close. Like he was literally with sohee in almost every clip here and anywhere else I saw. All the other members have a lot of care for him as well. (Like when the time wonbin made a phone cover with mostly sohee on it because he knew how much seunghan adored him). They all care for each other and have worked hard together to debut and gain fame. They have gained worldwide attention because of all the members! I saw a while ago that SM decided to take legal action against the person who leaked all his privacy. BUt seriously, what is that going to do NOW?! He's been REMOVED, HURT, AND BROKEN! And all the ot6 fans now feel like they have ALL the power. To be honest, i don't know what is going to be the outcome of this boycott against SM and riize. But I hope that something good will come out of this mess. I am in full support of the boycott, and have been doing so myself. SM needs to understand and do what's good for them or it could hurt a lot of their other groups and idols, and possibly even SM (but DEFINETLY their reputation). I hope seunghan can stay strong and keep pushing and I will support his journey whether he rejoins, goes solo, or follows another career. I wish all well for him and hopes that he can regain his strength and understand the amount of support he also has! OT7 RIIZE FOREVER! ❤🩹#RII7E (🖐✌)
He was the campus crush during high school so I don't think someone with that facecard would never date 😒 Above all his ex-gf never talk anything bad about him neither any friend. That dude who betrayed him must be jealous he got into the lineup ( cuz that friend is actually a trainee)
If the big agencies don't try and control this toxic cancel culture, then no idol is safe. SM should have handled this better and not allowed a single funeral wreath to be outside their building. How dare Knetz and SM do this to a 21 year old just doing absolutely normal things. The lack of reality and normality surrounding idols is dangerous and depressing.
I dont understand why SM had to gave in to these toxic fans … it is even better if they unfollowed Riize to eliminate negativity, now they are loosing the real good fans instead of these non supportive fake toxic fans 😰 this why they were really sad in their performances in the Music Bank Madrid and i witnessed how fans chanted Riize in 7 🙁
It's so messed up how these same fans should have reacted like this to nct's taeil after everything that has come out about him recently. He is practically a criminal atp. But he didn't get nearly as much hate as Seunghan did in SK. They chose to bully and torture this poor guy who literally did nothing wrong. It's so so messed up like what's wrong with knetz
Its sad that a young kids career was wiped out completely. I don't understand the rabid culture that Korea has for their actors as well as their kpop artists. Why can't they have girlfriends etc. they are grown adults😥😢
That friend is actually a trainee/idol. That same person was on private ig live with seunghan n TXT soobin and 1 more trainee and he recorded their live and shared it online. Both soobin n seunghan received backlash becuz of that 😢 that trainee friend also know a lot about many idols too.
I want to understand how his actions might be impact his fans lives negatively. Can they please share their perspective with me? I'm curious about how his actions impact anyone but him, if it's not in a negative way for them personally. Did their lives change somehow? STUPID!
SK needs to f*cking bring a law banning use of wreaths in unnecessary places. These haters don't even have decency. Is your hate that bad that you are willing to spend your money buying wreaths and placing them infront of companies? Had to see the same during suga situation . Disgusting
I think this is ridiculous. The whole idea and mentality behind this foolishness of creating a fantasy for fans, by making the lives of the artist, actor, model, etc.., miserable. Have they not learned anything with all the mental health issues, and suicides in that industry over the years? What the heck is wrong with these people? Do these hypocrites with boyfriends, girlfriends, and lives actually think they will run into one of these entertainers and ride off into a drama land happy ending? They need to grow up and let these people live their lives like they are. These aren't fans at all, and these entertainers owe us nothing but their body of work, which they are paid to do. I also blame every CO, COE, agent, legal advisor, and PR person who see how they are breaking down those entertainers while they are living their lives with their wive's, husband's, gf/bf, and children. I pray that that young man doesn't harm himself.
one of those comments really said "im disappointed in the members for choosing friendship over fans"... those sick, weird, obsessed psychos need a check up by someone professional..
SM put him in a dungeon for 10~11 months and didn’t do nothing to clear his name even tho they said they’ll “take legal action”. MIND YOU, the rumours and malicious comments started spreading since August 2023! what exactly were they doing??? taking f-ing legal action my ass 👺 it only took 1.5 day to retract their statement. those imbeciles have no spine, no conviction AT ALL. like damn, accumulatively Seunghan has apologised 4-5 times! ridiculous! the only thing that gives me hope is the massive support we (BRIIZE) have been getting in this boycott, from other fandoms to freaking news outlets/publications. those cancerous ot6 stans sent 1000s funeral wreathes to intimidate him into leaving RIIZE. that WAS NOT his decision. lord, help Seunghan & his family to get through this tumultuous time.
If you work for one of those companies, they’re supposed to protect you, give you security and confidence. What was all that they did? SM only cares about money and using their artists. They used Seunghan and discarded him just like that. Justice for Seunghan.
Why they waited his debut for the outrage ? Seunghan was a SMROOKIES, he was reveald one year before debuting with RIIZE so why after the debut 🤦♀️ It's just pure jealousy
That friend is actually a trainee/idol. That same person was on private ig live with seunghan n TXT soobin and he recorded their live and shared it online. Both soobin n seunghan received backlash becuz of that 😢 that trainee friend also know a lot about many idols too.
So one guy who committed quasi r@pe and gets defended by fans who don’t have a grip on reality but the one who had a consensual relationship gets annihilated? If this isn’t backwards, I don’t know what is!
This is the one thing I don't about the kpop culture, the delulu fans! The agencies give too much control to these fans. The smallest situations, old photos before debut, dating ,etc all things that normal humans do can lead to the demise of an idol career. The situation with Seunghan is sad! He finally is able to come back to Riize and then is forced to leave his career and everything he has worked hard for because of these crazy fans. Sending protest trucks, funeral wreaths, etc this crazy, extreme behavior and should not be tolerated. The company should take a stand against these things! I feel so bad for Seunghan.
Ive been a kpop fan of Super Junior for a good few years now and researching them and how the fans reacted to henry & zhoumi even being included in the group when the other members see them as such and Sungmin member getting married being seen as a betrayal. a majority of the fans as well seeing it as normal but the company bending to the will of a Loud minority is frankly how Kpop as an environment is. Wonho, Lucas etc are all victims of a system and framework that pushes the illusion that the artist must seem available to push the fantasy that that celebrity can be their's pushes that toxic mindset and until that illusion is shattered, instances like this will never end
even if you take the side of delulu fans, one thing i just cant understand is why is he getting cancelled for dating someone BEFORE debuting??? ur telling me that u wont date someone because they werent yours BEFORE??? ridiculous.
Toxic Kfans. You don't own the person. Tsk. Why not make for yourselves robot idols you can control. This will be the downfall of the K-pop industry. There has been a decline for many years but this may really be the end for some fans. I hope people like him may find a much better life outside the industry and give himself another chance because he did nothing wrong for being a human. SM failed to protect their artist this time. :(
I. At this point I don't care if he had a life as a normal human boy what I care about Is if he can show his talent in music 😂😂😂😂 I feel bad for the poor lad I've never seen this much hate on a child in my years as a kpop Stan
He should rather focus on his career than focus on these toxic fans. He is a kpop artist because of his HARDWORK and Passion. These SO-CALLED FANS really need to CHILL and better take care of their life.
When companies stop holding their idols accountable for doing sht literally so normal like dating a girl or smoking a cig and making them apologize to such an ungrateful fanbaze and actually target the criminals doing this, that's when a real change is going to happen. I can't understand why any idol should apologize for such things. It's absurd.
I highly doubt that many male Riize fans would care about a member dating or having a girlfriend. This mayhem and controversy is mostly pushed by female fans. Why? Why are Korean females SO obsessive about whether a male celebrity dates or has a girlfriend? Why so obsessed, so controlling, so mentally unstable to actually send funeral arrangements to the company? I ask this as a female that is not Korean, because I don’t understand this mentality. Are Korean girls this obsessive and cruel in normal everyday relationships with their actual boyfriends? Or just with males they idolize and fantasize and wish that they were their boyfriend?!? Make it make sense…..
Disappointment and damage done to his fans??? Incredibly toxic fandoms are doing the damage...Idols will still be followed and drooled over even if they are dating or in relationships....Let's normalize having lives, smoking, dating....SERIOUSLY !!!!
They apparently sent ~1000 wreaths. I saw a post from someone that called a Korean florist to estimate the cost of an order that large, that looks like these in terms of quality. The total came out to ~$75000. It’s sad. What good could have been done with that money. We’ll never know 🤷🏾♀️
When will this blatant bullying stop. Friends or not this behaviour should not be tolerated in South Korea. So, people are not allowed to experience life...are you for real. Apologising to fans for what? Being human or are all idols your puppets to do as you please. Ridiculous. As a Westerner, I'm glad we do not persecute future stars for foolishness. Funeral flower's seriously. Korea wake up culture or not you're bullies.
I hope he becomes an actor, gets multiple degrees, gets married, has children, and forgets about lip singing and overworked hours. OKAY!!! He’s free honestly. From last week, watching what happened to BamBam, seeing Jackson self destruct before finding himself again, the fact that fans bullied Karina out of a relationship and made her apologize, the way they taunt idols when they ACT HUMAN BECAUSE THEY ARE!!!! Korea has too much privilege in hating one another. It’s disgusting and it need to be stopped. They need to elect better people into office and retire all of these CEOs and company owners and find better people. As well as making it mandatory for kids at school all year round to be evaluated and treated. For adults who work low-high class to see a mandatory psychologist and a psychiatrist.
This is so stupid...just because he dated and smoked in HS, something every teenager does! I've never come across a more toxic fandom tbh. Also weren't they both teenagers so both are technically minors? The KPop Industry really needs to do better.
This whole situation shows everything that is wrong with kpop People that have a problem with idols being in a relationship should be ashamed It’s literally pathetic
"we also recognized that Seunghan's past actions were not appropriate for a public figure".... this makes no sense... please do not says such things, these delusional "fans" are not correct....
someone needs to look up the numbers of how much money international fans ACTUALLY spend because I bet that employee has NO real idea. Also he did NOTHING wrong. They're abusing him but they let T. stay in NCT for MONTHS after they knew what he did. SM needs to get their heads on straight. K-fans need to calm the actual fuck down. You don't own these people, you have no right to their private lives before or after they join a group. You are not going to marry your bias, you are not going to magically be closer to the band after you RUN OUT one of their loved ones. Companies need to stop letting literal children (or adults with child minds) control their buisness.
Isn’t it true that one must leave room for others to be considered humane? Why else do we have words like “forgiveness” and “mercy”? There’s no denying that one could have reflected during an 11-month hiatus on the consequences of leading a minor to a hotel and the negative example it set. When one becomes a public figure, they must be aware of their words and actions, and society’s harsh criticisms are intended to remind them of this. After all, it’s not like a crime was committed, nor were lives lost, nor property stolen. It was simply a case of inappropriate language and behavior, a failure to recognize one’s status, and bringing a minor to a questionable place. Yet, the minor didn’t seem to file a complaint or claim any harm. At this age, a severe reprimand could be enough to make one realize their mistakes. It’s not like they’re Taeyil, or someone notorious. The root cause of the high suicide rate in South Korea is likely this kind of public response. There must be limits and boundaries in society. The level of dramatization has become excessive, and yet people claim to care about mental health. This industry, filled with obsessive fans who can behave like psychiatric patients, struggles to accept romantic relationships, and it’s not necessarily the actions but the idea of associating with someone that draws such hatred. Are they sending these funeral flowers as a message to push someone toward suicide? If they wanted to express their displeasure, why didn’t they go hold banners or sit outside the agency? It feels like the person is being buried alive by these relentless attacks. Can you imagine how terrifying, heartbreaking, and discouraging it must be for them? Having cornered this person with no escape, they will likely be quick to shed tears and lament if something tragic happens, displaying hypocritical sympathy. It’s disgusting. Even just looking at the photos is painful. How is this any better for societal responsibility or setting a good example? These people, with their extreme reactions, are the true oppressors.
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A boy just wanted to live his dream, but couldn't because he lived a life.
Beautifully said. This whole thing is stupid poor guy there’s videos of him seeing the wreaths it’s sad bc he’s human just like all idols
He trained for 6 years, then hiatus for 10 months then came back and two days later he left🤦♀️ i cannot with these knetz
please help fight against sm TT sign the petition online, unfollow/block all accounts (no streaming, no voting), spread the news and reach out to your local kpop stores!
The only thing I would blame him would be that he is aware of knetz and didi train for years for his dream so how could he take private photos that could caught him. He should’ve been more careful about it. Unfortunately it is what it is when you can’t change the system them and still want to do what you want then don’t be a fool and post that photos!
Seriously Koreans mentality should be studied...
I read on twitter that it is internalized misogyny since Korean women are so bad treated by men, they (maybe without realizing) treat the idols like that as well as a coping mechanism. It’s a crazy statement but it let me thinking.. maybe part of that it’s true
Apparently their chinese "fans" were also involved
This mentality+Stan Culture in the west share the same toxicity and it's so exhausting
@@HazelnutCoughFee mmmm…. There might be a few but not majority like just compare the amount of people that are hating on this guy , it’s crazy. In the west, people don’t care if celebrities date, they care *who* they date because at least they know they’re humans that have feelings and go out on dates 😃 and even if the hate train is kinda ‘big’ the celebrities dgaf
Omg when r kpop stans gonna realize the korean gp does not give af about kpop
Conflating kpop stans and general korean netizens is so retarded 🤦
He was being betrayed by one of his friend.. Those pics are too personal 😢
I agree they were jealous
My thinking too or the one of the girl he dated
@@bossbabysyda7714 that would be more heartbreaking 💔
The friend that betrayed him is a trainee btw.(That trainee was even friend with txt soobin)
@@rftg1793 yes because there some things that leak and you know someone did it but fr it's so heartbreaking
This is messed up. Meanwhile they defend their "oppas" who have been charged with serious crimes or accused of assault. 🤦
This comment reminds me of the seungri defenders back in 2019 and some Taeil defenders
for reaalll like how is poor seunghan getting more hate than a fkn rappist
@@adyaparamitaputripratama2786they still are here bruv they aren’t gone
this is disgusting. at this point i dont even blame him for leaving the group. those "fans" need to get their karma
those toxic fans keeps recruiting people to be toxic like them, toxic people support toxic people. They are disgusting.
POOR BOY!.. 😥😥 These TOXIC jealous haters have RUINED his life!..🤦♀😥😥
The toxicy of fans is coming from the toxic parasocial relationships kpop industry is based on. It's even stronger in SK bcs they can see and meet the kPop idols often. They pretty much gaslight the fans into thinking they own the idols so they can milk their money and this is the result. It's insane
They're so delusional, they have the "if i can't have him, no one can" stupid mentality, these people need therapy... sometimes even Jail 😂
Exactly
literally incel behaviour
Frrr
exactly. they are like that. if an kpop idol date someone, they act as if someone killed their grandma or it's the end of the world.
I think people forget that we came for the music. They are humans with talent they wanted to share. Well that’s what I came for music. This man was a talented human. Koreans blame them for being human, guess that was his flaw. They focus on matters like this instead of people that actually did bad things. No wonder companies are trying to make AI groups now. They can’t be touched like this
(TW: long response istg I don’t wanna hear “i AiNt rEaDiN aLLaT” lmaooo you been warned fam)
“No wonder companies are trying to make AI groups” THIS! This right here!!! Fans wanna treat idols like robots…the companies said “aight bet”.
Sometimes fans treat celebrities like subhumans under guise of “love and affection” then the idols become depressed and off themselves. THAT’S when they put their faces in their hands and cry but look at how they treat those that are still here with us. They cry for Sulli, Goo Hara, Jonghyun, Moonbin and many others *while in the same breath* degrading and bullying other celebrities/idols *while at the same time* forgetting how much THEIR faves were/are put through what they’re now dishing onto another smh 🤦♀️ us fans need to have a talk on the real and check the toxic fandom mindset when it rises (no pun intended but allow it yo lol) cuz fans are worried for BamBam rn and they should be... The behind the scenes of the industry is hard enough no? Fans should not be adding to the stress of what they’re already dealing with behind the scenes. Kpop fans have work to do in terms of learning how to love their idols without spitting on them at the same time. For example, if idols tell you not to show up at the airport, don’t disrespect their wishes by showing up at the airport just to get mad that security pushed you or your idol didn’t wave to fans (since they weren’t supposed to be there) like it’s just wild what fans put them through and expect of them. I hope Seunghan is okay. I hope many others stay strong as well. Thank you for coming to my tedtalk 😂💀
@@bellaelleira They say "it's their job as a kpop idol to not date!" yet when they'll find another prettier idol they'll stop following the previous one.
This whole situation reminds me of ancient japanese prostitutes : their patrons would ask them to cut their finger to prove their love, of course there was no love involved on the patrons side so he would totally leave and she's be stuck with a finger already gone. the next man would come but she already cut a finger so it means she's not "fidele". so to avoid cutting all your fingers, they'd take corpse's fingers and give them away, because why waste your fingers on men who don't care about you, they just want to own you.
It's like soldiers saying to prostitutes how they love them, then leaving after making them pregnant.
Possessiveness isn't love, it's just your wish to own. If you love someone, you don't do something that'll make them scared or make them cry.
But that’s the point that Chinese and Korean fans are trying to say, is that they are not here for the music, they are here for the fan service and the boyfriend fantasy; some brutally honest Chinese fans even saying, if you want to date then don’t be an idol, cuz they literally don’t care abt an idol’s musical talents cuz they believe idols are talentless and if they want talent they would Stan a soloist or a real musicician, that’s why Koreans and Chinese are brutally bad when idols date, cuz they don’t see idols as “musical artists” they see them as a pretty fantasy, and some Chinese fans take it to the extreme saying idols are just glorified escorts, basically dehumanizing them to talentless escorts
@@user-sg4ov7ng4h yeah pretty much! The relationship is completely transactional in a sense where idols are meant to give and commit fully to them as their fans (because if it weren’t for us you wouldn’t be here blah blah blah mindset) while yeah you’re right, if a shiny new idol they like more comes along then they get to freely walk away and continue on while the idols lose what they’ve invested in this parasocial relationship. A lot of idols are forced to forfeit their health (mental and physical) to meet demands of fans and that’s usually what’s at a lost for them. People usually think money but why are these rich idols unhappy if it was just about the money? They would’ve been like “idc got your money anyway” but that’s not what’s happening. A lot of these people give themselves up and it seems in cases like this it’s like it’s not enough because they’re expected to have no life outside the studio and off the stage. They’re meant to give up their freedom, peace and overall sense of self. Fans I guess want fingers too idk. I see exactly what you’re saying. Love from fans is very conditional and it shows now more than ever. “We love you but only IF YOU **insert rules, laws in your specific country, terms and conditions, personal opinions and preferences here** and if you don’t live up to those expectations, we’ll find other idols to love BUT we’ll also ruin your career so YOU don’t get to have anymore fans to love you. _Saranghaeyo_ 🫰” lol the irony of it all to me flabbers my gast.
How fans treat each other is a whole other topic too when it comes to toxic mindset within Kpop stans as a whole. It’s getting waaaay outta hand
korean fans think they are their toys to play with, to throw away when they dont want them anymore
why is dating a "mistake" ??? i really don't understand these ppl. Its not a crime to date. Plus it was all in the past
Bc possessive/delulu “fans” would start boycotting and leaving the fandom if a member dates no matter the timeline..
This TOXICITY of Korean fans have to STOP!! 😠 it's ruining K-POP idols CAREERS an LIVES!!.. 🤦♀😥😥
True
There's a Netflix docu on F(x) Sully ended her life after bullying (boyfriend issue
The fact he was spotted by a fan at SM looking at the wreaths people have sent to try to bribe SM to remove him from the group, he went to the subway station after and saw some notes of positive fans but that’s the same night he decided to announce he’s leaving.
Also the fact that ot6 fans were celebrating by dancing in front of the wreaths 😢
@@mjan3906toxic briize are shameless
they should have sue them
Fan in South Korea are very toxic...they are not fan they are enemies
I wonder which snake released those incriminating photos. He should really review his circle of friends. So scary!
N what's crazyy is that friend was one of his best friend and a trainee/idol
Somebody close to him really had it out for him because why would they share those photos knowing how those fans are. None of the stuff he did was bad but y’all know how those fans are.
I hope k- netizens develop some brain cells, seriously this people doesn't have anything better to do
And the international fans to and stop calling the pretty girls pick me when they are jealous of them because there bias 😂
Knetz do that to 😂 at the in of the day this is abt seunghan rn not whatever ur on about @@RahafAlkhuriji
Seems like you can't take the criticism to Korean fans'
@@RahafAlkhurijir u korean
And International Fans, they're no better either. They might be in a minority, but let's not pretend one side are angels.
Thr video of him watching the wreaths was so heartbreaking, he looked like he had given up on life. That was too cruel 😭
Unfortunately, the K-pop industry has long been conditioned to be this way since 1st gen days. Companies care so much about selling a certain image to cater to fans and are afraid of losing profit if fans stop supporting their groups that fan demands end up taking priority. Its become so engrained in the K-pop culture atp that fans especially Korean ones have become hella entitled. The company always bend to their demands after all. I doubt things will ever change or at least not anytime soon. I dont even know anything about RIIZE but this whole situation is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard of in my 14 years as a K-pop fan🙄
I heard the stories about stalkers negotiating with ceos of small companies for clothes and other belonging of their groups, selling the schedule and more, but now it looks like so many people are acting like that and with the biggest companies, so how is for the small groups now? I kinda worried to even thing about it.
Gosh, can this behavior stop... It's 2024 and we're in 5th gen, but the fans still act like as if we still in gen 1/2 is sickening..
@@raffigani8303 will never change, its cultural, only way for it to change, is other countries besides Korea contribute in albums sales which overshadow Korea, then a change will happen, till then, its a status quo
You are missing the point, companies cather to this obsesive fans, these obsessed fans are the ones who handle the masterminds of marketing for their idols, they are the fanpages, they are the fan cafes Heart and fuel, these are the fans who paid for promotion cabs, promotion ads on Subway station. And ad on Subway for their idols bday can easely cost 2000usd ... SO yes, the girls need ro be obsessed to manage to spend thousands for their idols
International fans Buy one album maybe two... A saseng fan guys 100 ... Yeah and tons of thousands of dollars of merch .... Companies want this type of fans ...
Not since 1st gen. Only since SM. The company that fans like you always claimed to be the best company representing the “golden age Of klop”. It Needs to end.
Great video!
I personally unfollowed RIIZE on all social media sites after the finally kicked Seunghan out completely!
I have zero understanding for what happened to him! Just because he had been in a relationship with a girl before?? That's the most average thing teenagers experience.
They act like he killed someone they are just jealous that they didn't date him first. This happen befote he even became a trainee so I really don't get it. Dating is not a crime. It's irritating how those delulu and self centered people always win and act like they have all the rights all the time.
He got involved with the wrong 'friends'... Someone betrayed him in the name of friendship n ruined his career... What goes around comes around. I hope he has strength to face this obstacle and truly Rise...
That friend was one of his best friend and a trainee/idol 😢
Doesn’t matter he did nothing wrong, none of what was revealed is a reason to get rid of the guy except the allegation of underage girl but that was a lie
Goodness. Employees aren’t treated this unfairly in North Korea or even at Amazon.
In NK you just get publicly unalived..
very unfortunate. these toxic little girls have ruined this young man's life.
It was hella a lot of 20-60 year Olds too.
Delusional fans have just ruined this boys career and possibly RIIZE careers as well
Someone gift SM a "SPINE" and some "Morality".
Let them have a life they are human and have feelings
Seunghan should graduate from college, open an agency where artists can love and be loved, a place where he won't have to write apology letters to supposed fans. I say allegedly because a true fan will support his idol even in times of trouble. And this boy has done nothing of which he should be ashamed, much less apologizing. The biggest blame lies with his agency, which did not protect him at any moment, but only itself.
He trained for 7+ years for this to happen 😢
I hope he has people around him to support and comfort him, I can imagine his state, actually I am concerned.
But this is not fair at all, I hope he has multiple opportunities swing by and he thrives wherever he goes, his talented, and I am wishing him all the best.
This is so sad. It's unfortunate and wrong that he is being bullied this way. Why desire to be an idol if you will only be bullied by netizens. Hopefully, he can be a successful solo artist if he desires.
Seunghan, I hope you know how loved you are
True fans would want their idols to be happy. I don’t get it. How is it that fans can control the lives of the idols and go on with their life being in a relationship? How many more lives have to be ruined? So sad. Where’s the back bone of the damn management?
Basically some Korean fans want male idols to be masculine and virginal, and encourage the false belief that any fan has a chance of romance with the idols. How stupid and unhinged is that?
Thank you for using your platform to spotlight this injustice to RIIZE / Seunghan!!
I do wish you had included SM's statement about Seunghan leaving RIIZE, as it further clarifies and demonstrates that SM officially stated they succumbed to the bullying by the OT6, even though it was against even their own wishes and best judgement for RIIZE. It shows that his departure was definitely decided upon by SM.
Thank you for making a video about this❤sm should know this is a serious issue
What did he really do that warrants his life being totally ruined?????????? SM needs to protect their people not the crazy people that pull this crap!
Some fans are so crazy, they're living in a fantasy world like he's their boyfriend. They'd better go outside, meet more people, and smell grass.
These fans are very unhappy people and they want their idols to be as unhappy as they are.
This is the most ridiculous reason I've ever heard to demend a member to leave. I don't even know this group but this is so ridiculous and unbelievable, its nonsense. Don't leave and let those who can't handle it leave instead. 😒😒😒
I was happy for Riize's fandom when I heard he's coming back only to hear him leaving again days after. Our fandom's wish is for a member who left to come back and it still is after 5 years so I don't understand why this fandom will drive their member to leave after coming back.
K- Netizens are always quick to believe rumors or spread lies about their idols and in my view they are the Biggest, Toxic Bullies!😡😡I hope they prosecute these malicious people for invasion of privacy and do not accept any apology.😡
If I was him *I would have NOT apologized* fuck em
it's good that he did a self-reflection, but it's really unfair that person behind that social media or screen who posted it. Zero empathy. Their purpose is supposed to be just sharing music, not about their visuals and private life. Those toxic fans are too nosy and disgusting. He apologized for his members thinking the group is ruined because of him.
Poor him 😢 I think the kpop fans should be banned from dating and smoking too and see their reaction
they are that hypocrite, acting as if they are holy who never sinned and criticizing these kpop idols non stop.
19:46 Leetuk also retweeted some of those posts btw! So even an artist within SM is absolutely disgusted by this
Seunghan probably got backstabbed by his circle. SM shouldn't put him on hiatus or make him apologized as he's not committing a crime. It's his past relationship and although i didn't like smoking, that is his personal choice. They shouldn't let those delusional fans controlled or decided things for him or any other idols.
What I dont get is that these fans act like he can't have a private life. Leave him alone, he is allowed to live his life. If people don't like it then don't follow him. His company should of supported him more. He shouldn't of had apologized for anything. He is an entertainer that's his job. Not to make everyone happy. He needs to make himself happy. If you don't like what he does, that has nothing to try and bring him down. Let him live his life in all reality he's not hurting anyone. People need to stop have expectations. His job is to entertain and that's it.
SM failed him, during the 10 months of hiatus they had an applicable amount of time to collect evidence and sue the ones involved in invading his privacy. His return should have been the final call, all other hate should have been handled accordingly with legal action. I believe this was all planned, they never wanted him back in the first place and just announced him back to give ot7 fans closure but it backfired more than they could ever have imagined.
This actually sounded plausible/possible!!!! I could write a whole bunch more about it, but will refrain.... it's just my opinion, and frankly I'm not in the mood for any potentially "rabid hate" myself!!! So TTFN!!!! 👋👋👋👋👋😘
I wish there was some way we could communicate with these insane “fans” and tell them that we think they are ridiculous garbage
I wish that too. I hope someday idols had enough of this treatment and make a movement against those crazy fans and change the industry but I’m dreaming too much 😪
Some of these mentally ill people posted dance challenge showing funeral wreaths and i-briize got their ig account so they're crying now saying "you're harrassing people" 😂
@@rftg1793 TT sign the seunghan petition online, unfollow/block all accounts (no streaming, no voting), spread the news and reach out to your local kpop stores! ; its working and if enough financial/popularity loss happens sm will LOSE
There is a way, you can find them anywhere on social media, the only problem is not knowing the Korean language since most of them can hardly speak English
This is one of the reasons why I hate people.
Whoever dogged him in was jealous may the culprits for this disgusting saga get back all the ugly energies they sent out...and to the sick fans....f.... off who cares if you lot leave...k pop will become healthy after you leave.
I feel so defeated right now. For him especially. I have always been a fan of riize and have loved every member dearly in their own way. But to see this happen to a member, a part of this group, is very upsetting. He debut with them and was a part of their success, only to be separated for almost a year, announced to comeback, and then REMOVED from the group only a few days later. The pain he would go through is unbearable. And ot6 fans need to also realize that they are also hurting the other members as well. Sohee and seunghan were very close. Like he was literally with sohee in almost every clip here and anywhere else I saw. All the other members have a lot of care for him as well. (Like when the time wonbin made a phone cover with mostly sohee on it because he knew how much seunghan adored him). They all care for each other and have worked hard together to debut and gain fame. They have gained worldwide attention because of all the members! I saw a while ago that SM decided to take legal action against the person who leaked all his privacy. BUt seriously, what is that going to do NOW?! He's been REMOVED, HURT, AND BROKEN! And all the ot6 fans now feel like they have ALL the power. To be honest, i don't know what is going to be the outcome of this boycott against SM and riize. But I hope that something good will come out of this mess. I am in full support of the boycott, and have been doing so myself. SM needs to understand and do what's good for them or it could hurt a lot of their other groups and idols, and possibly even SM (but DEFINETLY their reputation). I hope seunghan can stay strong and keep pushing and I will support his journey whether he rejoins, goes solo, or follows another career. I wish all well for him and hopes that he can regain his strength and understand the amount of support he also has! OT7 RIIZE FOREVER! ❤🩹#RII7E (🖐✌)
Bro with that face and physique why would he be single and tbh why are they mad even if he was single he wouldnt date them
He was the campus crush during high school so I don't think someone with that facecard would never date 😒
Above all his ex-gf never talk anything bad about him neither any friend. That dude who betrayed him must be jealous he got into the lineup ( cuz that friend is actually a trainee)
If the big agencies don't try and control this toxic cancel culture, then no idol is safe. SM should have handled this better and not allowed a single funeral wreath to be outside their building. How dare Knetz and SM do this to a 21 year old just doing absolutely normal things. The lack of reality and normality surrounding idols is dangerous and depressing.
I dont understand why SM had to gave in to these toxic fans … it is even better if they unfollowed Riize to eliminate negativity, now they are loosing the real good fans instead of these non supportive fake toxic fans 😰 this why they were really sad in their performances in the Music Bank Madrid and i witnessed how fans chanted Riize in 7 🙁
Oh no! I was so happy when his return was announced. 😢
It's so messed up how these same fans should have reacted like this to nct's taeil after everything that has come out about him recently. He is practically a criminal atp. But he didn't get nearly as much hate as Seunghan did in SK. They chose to bully and torture this poor guy who literally did nothing wrong. It's so so messed up like what's wrong with knetz
If you are a regular joe on the street you aren't dating these idols. Get over it, let them live their lives.
send delulu fans to north korea
Its sad that a young kids career was wiped out completely. I don't understand the rabid culture that Korea has for their actors as well as their kpop artists. Why can't they have girlfriends etc. they are grown adults😥😢
its been 10 mths and they still have not found the guy who leaked the photos... pls..
he must be someone who is closer to him since no one would have knwon that he dated a girl
That friend is actually a trainee/idol.
That same person was on private ig live with seunghan n TXT soobin and 1 more trainee and he recorded their live and shared it online. Both soobin n seunghan received backlash becuz of that 😢 that trainee friend also know a lot about many idols too.
I want to understand how his actions might be impact his fans lives negatively. Can they please share their perspective with me? I'm curious about how his actions impact anyone but him, if it's not in a negative way for them personally. Did their lives change somehow? STUPID!
Where K-netz outrage for Taeil ?
Cuz they want their fav idol to be "pure" "innocent" and only they have a chance with them cuz they spend money. (Most k-briize said it themselves 🤯)
SK needs to f*cking bring a law banning use of wreaths in unnecessary places. These haters don't even have decency. Is your hate that bad that you are willing to spend your money buying wreaths and placing them infront of companies? Had to see the same during suga situation . Disgusting
SM YOU DID NOTHING TO PROTECT IDOL!!!!!
I think this is ridiculous. The whole idea and mentality behind this foolishness of creating a fantasy for fans, by making the lives of the artist, actor, model, etc.., miserable. Have they not learned anything with all the mental health issues, and suicides in that industry over the years? What the heck is wrong with these people? Do these hypocrites with boyfriends, girlfriends, and lives actually think they will run into one of these entertainers and ride off into a drama land happy ending? They need to grow up and let these people live their lives like they are. These aren't fans at all, and these entertainers owe us nothing but their body of work, which they are paid to do. I also blame every CO, COE, agent, legal advisor, and PR person who see how they are breaking down those entertainers while they are living their lives with their wive's, husband's, gf/bf, and children. I pray that that young man doesn't harm himself.
one of those comments really said "im disappointed in the members for choosing friendship over fans"... those sick, weird, obsessed psychos need a check up by someone professional..
SM put him in a dungeon for 10~11 months and didn’t do nothing to clear his name even tho they said they’ll “take legal action”. MIND YOU, the rumours and malicious comments started spreading since August 2023! what exactly were they doing??? taking f-ing legal action my ass 👺
it only took 1.5 day to retract their statement. those imbeciles have no spine, no conviction AT ALL.
like damn, accumulatively Seunghan has apologised 4-5 times! ridiculous!
the only thing that gives me hope is the massive support we (BRIIZE) have been getting in this boycott, from other fandoms to freaking news outlets/publications.
those cancerous ot6 stans sent 1000s funeral wreathes to intimidate him into leaving RIIZE. that WAS NOT his decision.
lord, help Seunghan & his family to get through this tumultuous time.
If you work for one of those companies, they’re supposed to protect you, give you security and confidence. What was all that they did? SM only cares about money and using their artists. They used Seunghan and discarded him just like that. Justice for Seunghan.
Why they waited his debut for the outrage ?
Seunghan was a SMROOKIES, he was reveald one year before debuting with RIIZE so why after the debut 🤦♀️
It's just pure jealousy
That friend is actually a trainee/idol.
That same person was on private ig live with seunghan n TXT soobin and he recorded their live and shared it online. Both soobin n seunghan received backlash becuz of that 😢 that trainee friend also know a lot about many idols too.
now people cant even say or do normal shit in fear of their future careers getting dragged to filth coz people cant handle shit
OMG they are a Sick people end his His artistic future for dating girl😔
So one guy who committed quasi r@pe and gets defended by fans who don’t have a grip on reality but the one who had a consensual relationship gets annihilated? If this isn’t backwards, I don’t know what is!
This is so sad...... he's so young :c I worry about his mental health.
한 사람이 본인의 과오를 후회하고 반성하며 바른 길로 가고자 할 때 포용하고 응원해주는 것이 같은 사회의 구성원으로써 해야 할 역할 아님?
I will forever be sad because one day I hear Seunghan is coming back but then the next day he leaves. do yall know how sad I am rn 😭
This is the one thing I don't about the kpop culture, the delulu fans! The agencies give too much control to these fans. The smallest situations, old photos before debut, dating ,etc all things that normal humans do can lead to the demise of an idol career. The situation with Seunghan is sad! He finally is able to come back to Riize and then is forced to leave his career and everything he has worked hard for because of these crazy fans. Sending protest trucks, funeral wreaths, etc this crazy, extreme behavior and should not be tolerated. The company should take a stand against these things! I feel so bad for Seunghan.
Ive been a kpop fan of Super Junior for a good few years now and researching them and how the fans reacted to henry & zhoumi even being included in the group when the other members see them as such and Sungmin member getting married being seen as a betrayal. a majority of the fans as well seeing it as normal but the company bending to the will of a Loud minority is frankly how Kpop as an environment is. Wonho, Lucas etc are all victims of a system and framework that pushes the illusion that the artist must seem available to push the fantasy that that celebrity can be their's pushes that toxic mindset and until that illusion is shattered, instances like this will never end
Lee Soo Man is a bit different from his nephew for sure.
Thank you for talking about this. ❤
even if you take the side of delulu fans, one thing i just cant understand is why is he getting cancelled for dating someone BEFORE debuting??? ur telling me that u wont date someone because they werent yours BEFORE??? ridiculous.
Toxic Kfans. You don't own the person. Tsk. Why not make for yourselves robot idols you can control. This will be the downfall of the K-pop industry. There has been a decline for many years but this may really be the end for some fans. I hope people like him may find a much better life outside the industry and give himself another chance because he did nothing wrong for being a human. SM failed to protect their artist this time. :(
I. At this point I don't care if he had a life as a normal human boy what I care about Is if he can show his talent in music 😂😂😂😂 I feel bad for the poor lad I've never seen this much hate on a child in my years as a kpop Stan
I don’t think you need to include these pictures to your thumbnail.. I’m sure he doesn’t want to see that
Some K-netizens must be rich bc who got the money to buy wreaths to send to a company over such a dumb thing to be mad abt??
He should rather focus on his career than focus on these toxic fans. He is a kpop artist because of his HARDWORK and Passion. These SO-CALLED FANS really need to CHILL and better take care of their life.
When companies stop holding their idols accountable for doing sht literally so normal like dating a girl or smoking a cig and making them apologize to such an ungrateful fanbaze and actually target the criminals doing this, that's when a real change is going to happen. I can't understand why any idol should apologize for such things. It's absurd.
How to become a K-pop idol, Don't live a normal life. This is the aboslutely dumbest reason to cancel a idol and getting them kicked from the group.
Guys sign the petition to help Briize with the Seunghan situation
Why would any idol want this kind of fandom.
I highly doubt that many male Riize fans would care about a member dating or having a girlfriend.
This mayhem and controversy is mostly pushed by female fans. Why?
Why are Korean females SO obsessive about whether a male celebrity dates or has a girlfriend?
Why so obsessed, so controlling, so mentally unstable to actually send funeral arrangements to the company?
I ask this as a female that is not Korean, because I don’t understand this mentality. Are Korean girls this obsessive and cruel in normal everyday relationships with their actual boyfriends? Or just with males they idolize and fantasize and wish that they were their boyfriend?!?
Make it make sense…..
In the words of Wendy when referring to ot6 stans: I don't wish you well!
I wish you HELL
A DREAM turn in to nightmare poor seunghan
Disappointment and damage done to his fans??? Incredibly toxic fandoms are doing the damage...Idols will still be followed and drooled over even if they are dating or in relationships....Let's normalize having lives, smoking, dating....SERIOUSLY !!!!
It is just ridiculous how SM mishandled the situation. None of their artists are save with SM.
So crazy. Cancelled for being human. Where did all the money go come from for all those funeral wreaths?
k pop stan are rich
They apparently sent ~1000 wreaths. I saw a post from someone that called a Korean florist to estimate the cost of an order that large, that looks like these in terms of quality. The total came out to ~$75000. It’s sad. What good could have been done with that money. We’ll never know 🤷🏾♀️
@@Nishkaloo thank you for that information. I agree it is a waste of money.
When will this blatant bullying stop. Friends or not this behaviour should not be tolerated in South Korea. So, people are not allowed to experience life...are you for real. Apologising to fans for what? Being human or are all idols your puppets to do as you please. Ridiculous. As a Westerner, I'm glad we do not persecute future stars for foolishness. Funeral flower's seriously. Korea wake up culture or not you're bullies.
all i can say is kindness goes a long way
I hope he becomes an actor, gets multiple degrees, gets married, has children, and forgets about lip singing and overworked hours. OKAY!!! He’s free honestly. From last week, watching what happened to BamBam, seeing Jackson self destruct before finding himself again, the fact that fans bullied Karina out of a relationship and made her apologize, the way they taunt idols when they ACT HUMAN BECAUSE THEY ARE!!!! Korea has too much privilege in hating one another. It’s disgusting and it need to be stopped. They need to elect better people into office and retire all of these CEOs and company owners and find better people. As well as making it mandatory for kids at school all year round to be evaluated and treated. For adults who work low-high class to see a mandatory psychologist and a psychiatrist.
This is so stupid...just because he dated and smoked in HS, something every teenager does! I've never come across a more toxic fandom tbh. Also weren't they both teenagers so both are technically minors?
The KPop Industry really needs to do better.
This whole situation shows everything that is wrong with kpop
People that have a problem with idols being in a relationship should be ashamed
It’s literally pathetic
"we also recognized that Seunghan's past actions were not appropriate for a public figure".... this makes no sense... please do not says such things, these delusional "fans" are not correct....
so dumb! everyone in that group has kissed and slept with someone! they are not children but young MEN!
someone needs to look up the numbers of how much money international fans ACTUALLY spend because I bet that employee has NO real idea.
Also he did NOTHING wrong. They're abusing him but they let T. stay in NCT for MONTHS after they knew what he did.
SM needs to get their heads on straight.
K-fans need to calm the actual fuck down. You don't own these people, you have no right to their private lives before or after they join a group. You are not going to marry your bias, you are not going to magically be closer to the band after you RUN OUT one of their loved ones. Companies need to stop letting literal children (or adults with child minds) control their buisness.
South Koreans see their idols as their properties.
Isn’t it true that one must leave room for others to be considered humane? Why else do we have words like “forgiveness” and “mercy”? There’s no denying that one could have reflected during an 11-month hiatus on the consequences of leading a minor to a hotel and the negative example it set. When one becomes a public figure, they must be aware of their words and actions, and society’s harsh criticisms are intended to remind them of this. After all, it’s not like a crime was committed, nor were lives lost, nor property stolen. It was simply a case of inappropriate language and behavior, a failure to recognize one’s status, and bringing a minor to a questionable place. Yet, the minor didn’t seem to file a complaint or claim any harm.
At this age, a severe reprimand could be enough to make one realize their mistakes. It’s not like they’re Taeyil, or someone notorious. The root cause of the high suicide rate in South Korea is likely this kind of public response. There must be limits and boundaries in society. The level of dramatization has become excessive, and yet people claim to care about mental health.
This industry, filled with obsessive fans who can behave like psychiatric patients, struggles to accept romantic relationships, and it’s not necessarily the actions but the idea of associating with someone that draws such hatred. Are they sending these funeral flowers as a message to push someone toward suicide? If they wanted to express their displeasure, why didn’t they go hold banners or sit outside the agency? It feels like the person is being buried alive by these relentless attacks. Can you imagine how terrifying, heartbreaking, and discouraging it must be for them?
Having cornered this person with no escape, they will likely be quick to shed tears and lament if something tragic happens, displaying hypocritical sympathy. It’s disgusting. Even just looking at the photos is painful. How is this any better for societal responsibility or setting a good example? These people, with their extreme reactions, are the true oppressors.
South korea should make a law to have mental assessment for people making social media account