AK vs AR in a fighting context
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2021
- For some reason people have this disbelief that of the two primary war fighting rifles in the world only one of them has any justification of its reputation.
Thought I'd make a video covering a couple things in regards to the actual use of these guns.
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There's a lot of AK versus AR content on TH-cam. Very small quantity of any of it has any real substance to it. This video has substance and much of my respect.
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I think folks want to believe there’s much more of a difference between these platforms when there really isn’t. They’re both modern weapon systems that will do as they are intended. Major difference is the ammo load.
Not exactly. Different manual of arms. Different philosophy of use and doctrine. Biggest difference is reliability. 99% of malfunctions with AKs are the magazine or ammo. ARs are not nearly as reliable and not nearly as easy to clear malfunctions. AK is literally pull handle. Or change mag and pull handle. For every malfunction. This is a major when you get into 10k rounds.
It's impressive to hear a gun designed in WW2 called a modern weapon system. Hot damn did papa Kalash do a damn good job.
And yet, the Armalite is a better platform@@dumbcow1
Unless you have an AK in 556. They get ever more popular since we've been cut off from cheap Russian ammo.
The AR15 is a fine weapon,a close second to the lord of war the AKM
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They are both good weapons. The AR family are good guns and I would feel comfortable taking one to war (again). I give plenty of credit to ARs for reliability. Our guns were early GWOT stock that had been issued and taken on deployment multiple times. They all worked well except for one problem. We had a lot of issued M-4s throw bolt lugs. Some just kept on going, which was cool, I guess. Others seized up and were useless.
You know what I’ve never seen? An AK sheer a bolt lug.
Ars reliability 2:29 ? Ok Lol
Your video is like the ultimate scientific answer for the entire AK vs AR debate. I don't think there is any more to add.
Great work bro.
Bcm filthy 14 is over 67500 rds with no cleaning so I'd say the maintenance side of things is dead in the water. Parts availability and parts swapping easily goes to the AR. Lighter recoil faster shots on target more shots in the vitals faster it's snake through armor far faster then x39 will chew through it. I'd say flannel daddy's got some panties knotted lol regardless both platforms are phenomenal that's why they're still around and shredding shit 70+ years later
@@noluckpureskill9985 You say "Bcm filthy 14 is over 67500 rds with no cleaning so I'd say the maintenance side of things is dead in the water." but here you are almost definitely talking about carbon fouling from shooting and not cleaning, a AR will handle that just fine, carbon build up will even act kind of like a dry lubricant. I'm assuming that 67,500 rounds was done at a range or similar conditions. Talk to any guy who carried a M4 around the desert even with the dust cover down about "Maintenance being dead in the water" AR's do not like things like sand and dust getting into the action, and if you are in a desert, (or combat where dust and debris is flying around) an AR is less reliable than a AK. There is a huge difference in measuring reliability in relaxed range shooting, to using a weapon in the chaos of combat.
We all know about the In-range mud test and the AK jamming up because it takes in debris easier, however, an AK is also much easier to clear than a AR if such a malfunction occurs and besides mud, AK's handle all other environmental conditions better, very importantly snow and ice, which seems to be commonly overlooked. Maybe some guys live down in Texas, Arizona, Florida etc. and just don't care, fair enough. However, I live in Michigan, cold weather reliability is absolutely a valid consideration for me. Look, I'm not saying the AR is bad, far from it, both AK and AR have pros and cons, and are both great machines, however the AK definitively has an advantage in low maintenance and reliability.
Broooo. Them reloads are fayah!🔥 subbed!
Awesome comparison 👍🏻. I love them both
One of the best videos, thanks man!!!!!
I've got both, and I train with both.
You brought up points that I bring up and came to the same conclusions I have.
Theyre both great weapons, and they both have their advantages. I'm glad to see someone who actually understands the advantages of a 7.62 AK.
Good job. The best compare video out there .
Excellent presentation!
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Love the video! Learned some new stuff.
spot on dude...subbed...training on both platforms is a good idea...like Clint Smith said..."the gun you start out in a fight with might not be the gun you end up with after" learn both.
Best video by far. Subbed.
keep pumping regular videos
Looks like training makes perfect, those are some sharp reloads. I am now a AK guy. 🇺🇸
Thank you for a great video! You touched on every point and made your case like a lawyer. However I didn’t mean to insult you by saying like a lawyer, but you explained and made your case!!
Again thank you!🙏🏼
Finally someone who is informed and not just giving bro science. Subbed
Great videos
The AK is a phenomenal weapon system and your arguments regarding the AK and training are valid. The larger caliber AK will have more knockdown power and is able to damage barriers, vehicles and armor more easily. Practical accuracy is just fine. You really aren't disadvantaged with an AK inside of 300M
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Great video man! Thanks a lot! I am about to get AKM (WBP Jack) but here in Poland .223 is cheaper than 7.62x39, So I am going to get 5,56x45/.223.
This needs more views
Outstanding finally an unbiased side by side based on reality
I have both. I consider myself more of an "AK guy" than an AR dude but I 100% understand the benefits of what you get out of an AR-15 that you don't get with a AKM pattern gun so I keep both. Both are "Duty Quality" guns that I do maintain very well. Built for different SHTF scenarios.
My first weapon (Specifically for bugging IN during SHTF situations and home defense) is a Zastava M92ZPAP. Completely kitted out to be a modern fighting weapon. Were talking quality red dot/flashlight/flash hider set up. Its 10 inch barrel makes it fantastic for clearing rooms and CQB type of things, but even 7.62x39 out of a 10 inch barrel... it only loses like 200 fps of velocity compared to a 16... So your STILL moving big hunks of 30 caliber lead at super sonic speeds exceeding 2000 fps with quality ammunition. I personally use different ammo in different magazines. My steel Yugo mags are packed with standard 7.62.39 FMJ and my Drums and polymer magazines are loaded with hollow points. The FMJ's will tear thru a car effortlessly, glass, drywall studs, it punches through all of that, while the hollow point are for hitting soft targets up close and personal and delivering substantial damage as quickly as possible. The Flash hider I use adds a little weight but it suppresses damn near 100 % of the flash even in pitch dark conditions, its not as good as a suppressor but its literally the next best thing. For a gun of mines size its a must have. I use the 4 piece flash hider from AK builders but I also have a strela that is even better.
Now if I gotta roll out. Leave home forever. Gotta carry bunch of shit far away on foot.. I got my AR-15 for that. Standard 16 inch barrel size. 3 prong flash hider ASR mount. Stubby VFG on a 15 inch rail. 1x6 LPVO. BCM butt stock (the one with the two sides of storage on it), Raptor charging handle, Enhanced BCG melonite/nitride treated. And a real good flat faced trigger. all things on it it doesnt weigh nearly as much as my M92 with the 75 round drum in it. The main reasons my bugging out rifle is an AR over an AK is.. Its just lighter. Mobility will be higher. Endurance will be easier. Also, If things got so bad I had to leave home forever, most likely im headed out to the country lol. Rural areas, woods, mountains, difficult terrain to navigate. ETC. Firefights if they should occur will happen at longer ranges potentially in the country than in a urban area. So having a caliber that is easier to be accurate with at 500 plus yards could be an important thing to have. Its also generally easier to mount heavier optics such as scopes and lpvo's that will actually hold zero through firing. Also if my gun gets damaged in the field, its gonna be easier to find a upper or a lower to replace what ever is damaged on my AR vs if my AK gets busted up and becomes unusable for whatever reason. But when it comes to optics and holding zero. AK's just do better with lighter weight optics like red dots.
Thanks for the no bullshit breakdown
*That's it*
Best outro ever
I’m new to all of this, but is 762 ammo also commonly found/relatively available? Especially now, post-pandemic? Although it is cheaper than 556, my concern is if a lot of stores carry them
It’s still commonly available and the Russian ammo bans should be alleviated by American companies before they really hit. (Hopefully)
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Does training when you know exactly when you run out of ammo (1st shot) make sense? Wouldn't it make more sense if you didn't know it? especially on a gun without bolt hold open, this surprise element could add to the training
It’s less about if it makes sense and more about if it matters. If you’re building a drill around specific principles like weapon manipulation, target acquisition, target transition, trigger control, or speed regarding any of those variables. being surprised by being empty on 3 or 5 rounds doesn’t really matter if it isn’t the goal. 1r1s is one of many drills used for reloads, 1r5 is better but if you were going to implement surprise you might as well set up multiple targets or have a longer string of fire which is working multiple skills like shooting a stage. Frankly getting all of that on camera takes more time or multiple camera or a go pro. I don’t record everything.
This is also why you press the trigger twice when doing 1r1s with an AK. Dead hammer blow means it’s out. In a perfect world you wouldn’t need to reload under extremely dangerous conditions because you handled a threat with a few rounds and topped off the magazine when you were relatively safe. That is all hypothetical though.
Reminds me of older Regular Guy training videos, and I love it.
Also I agree with everything here, both slap and after training with the AK a lot since COVID prices I've learned to love things I used to think we're cons(coming from an AR). Rock in mags are amazing once you learn them, don't have to tap tug and can load up a full 30 without issue, charging handles are amazing for fixing malfunctions, but aks get wicked hot. Anyways I could ramble on but I'll stop and say thanks for the quality content and I'm absolutely subscribing.
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If anyone thinks AK's can't be reloaded quickly, go look at Klayco47. That guy is blink and you'll miss it fast. If you're half that fast, you're probably going to be good enough.
Anyone that shit talks an AK has never used one in combat. In a side note, most every reload I found myself either prone on the ground, or crouched behind some kind of hard cover 😁
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I love the death glare when aiming down sights. I do the same😂😅
Its either a death glare or I look like I forgot something I'm trying to remember.
Old video but I agree with mostly everything said...the best rifle to train with and to use tho: whatever you got, what you can afford to run atleast as much as you can. Im an AK man, I'm used to the AK I've spent my whole life in the woods behind an AK it's what I know its what in a serious situation I'm going to reach for.
Are you using any type of magwell for that rifle? Those reloads look like they're going straight in instead of rocking and locking.
No magwell. Thumb is flicking the mag catch and wrist is kicking forward at the same time to set up for the magazine insertion. It’s only rocked forward as much as it absolutely needs to be to secure the front lug on the magazine
I like the AK platform, but in 7.62 x39 the VZ 58 is my favorite 😎
Heresy
@ 2:05 ...is that dude recording on a flip phone? 😂
End video edit: based on your tone, those Instagram comments must've REALLY got to you, lol. Overall good presentation though. Subbed.
I mean they kinda did, it was really stupid the reasoning some of them had and I'd look at the account of the dude saying aks suck and its some new shooter who hasn't run guns outside of a flat range but he'd talk like he'd had 40 years experience or some shit.
I'm curious about your lack of vertical or angled foregrip. seems like these days everyone one is running either those or some kind of handstop. Any particular reasons you don't?
Because you don’t need it to control recoil and not every gun allows you to attach one. There is also a counter technique to control recoil by pulling the pistol grip into your shoulder, lotta people say not to do that because having your trigger hand tight can slow your trigger manipulation because of the tension.
it’s a balancing act and works pretty good. Good enough to out run the cyclic rate of an AK.
@@autonomousdefense Appreciate it, I just got my first AK, so learning from people with much more experience is really helpful.
Is your primary method of recoil mitigation on the pistol grip itself, while the forward hand is more for stabilization?
@@-Zevin- pretty much. Stock is pushed all the way in if it’s adjustable to keep the front heaviness of the rifle more balanced and closer to my body. The more vertical your pistol grip is the easier it is to pull into your shoulder, hand on the front of the gun is just enough to stabilize it. By doing this the path of least resistance is Straight up and down instead of up and to the right from pulling in a vertical grip if you were right handed for example. The gun will track vertically because your pulling with the pistol grip now. Lastly and this is true of any rifle, if your pulling the stock in with the pistol grip when you go to reload the gun the gun moves less and makes reloading with the support hand easier.
This recoil management technique comes from using machine guns and since your using an AK your going to have to lean into the recoil more than an ar15.
Getting good at this just takes practice.
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I have preference for the ak but the arguments for the AR like easy access to ammunition, mags, and parts, lighter ammo, and very importantly for people on a budget: cheap and easy access to kit surrounding the AR platform versus more specialized pouches for AK.
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I run a Galil SAR with a 13 inch barrel I love it kinda best of both worlds in a way
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Well done Sir ! BTW - I run an AKM47. and am happy 😃
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Nerf Football. As a fellow child of the 90s, I thank you for saying “Nerf football” instead of just “football”. Great video. Impressive reloads. Thank you sir.
Badass! Subbed off of this video!
How about retaining your mags like you would getting shot at?
Could you try asking a question that is actually coherent?
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You remind me of the dude(can't remember his name) from the channel A Regular Guy Training llc
I’ve taken a lot of his classes.
With no critical implication, you do you. I fuckin hate that light mount
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Fastest mag changes I've ever seen 😮
Honestly it’s kinda bad, I’ve seen better.
Bravo good sir.
Loved the video and I agree with you on everything you said. I found it hilariously refreshing when you explained why the haters don't know wtf they're talking about when they harp on how bad the AK is. The AK is perfect as a combat weapon and I own both too. I do think the AR has its benefits.
I think ballistically speaking, a 5.56 is capable of being much easier to be accurate with given its a much flatter shooting round. I mean if you zero at 50 yards youll basically get a really good zero where your shots will be within 3-4 inches of you POA all the way up to 200 yards where it will be back to POI=POA and after that its basically video game aim, just aim a bit high. You get a good middle ground of being able to smack shit up close pretty easily and reach out to 200 yards with little round deviation.
With AK's your best bet is probably a 50 yard zero or a 25 yard zero.
A 50 yard zero giving you a very close POI/POA zero all the way up to about 125 yards where it begins to drop off a couple inches by 150 yards, and by 300 your looking at about 24 inches of bullet drop potentially. This is really good though for CQB because basically anything between 50 yards and 150 is damn near on POA.
Then 25 yard zero is a little more spicy. Your POA will be ruffly 2-6 inches lower than the POI and it will be back to zero at around 200 yards, where it will drop off quickly and by 300 yards your looking at about 10-12 inces of drop from your POA. You gotta keep that shit in the back of your mind. I just think the AR, doesn't take as much thought when you zero it in at certain distances.
But maybe I'm wrong, I'm not a marksmen shooter and don't get to shoot nearly as much as I would like. Just a enthusiast who watches to many videos lol.
When I was using short barrel AK to hit C and A zone steel at 300yd my measurements for my hold over were simply“a head high” “half a guy high” depending on the target. We would use people as the reference point and inches of drop becomes irrelevant for what your eyes are actually seeing. If you have a red dot or even glass it’s pretty easy and this is why we collect DOPE on guns and ammo types. AKs can be harder but it’s still easy.
I consider the AR better on the logistics. Many people don’t care enough about long term logistics. That being said. Both platforms are the top weapon platforms
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I prefer akm or vz58 because 7.62x39 was standart ammo in my country before we joined to NATO and these guns are both reiable. I bealive that good made AR is good too
Why not both? I love my AK's the manual of arms is just so much more fun. I train with both personally. Need to zenitco my 105 out like my 103.
Good luck now lol. I had the same plan but it’s gonna be harder
Great video you sound just like a regular guy training
The Chinese created me in a lab to replace him.
@@autonomousdefense I can see that
Good to know, if you are going to be a soldier.
MAC's bcm is at what 8k rds now cleaning and the bcm filthy 14 is around 67500 rds+ by now so there's not much room for the maintenance argument honestly both platforms will plow through so much shit it's literally laughably unbelievable
Those rounds counts dont exactly apply to the maintenance point. Yeah he doesn't need to clean it (if it's unsuppressed) but he does have to keep it wet to keep from getting failures. At 67,500 hes definitely changed parts and replaced barrels so he's definitely cleaned the gun among other things.
Time line and environment also matters. (Flat range vs classes) 67k in 14 months is a lot
67k over a couple of years isnt.
Filthy 14 was cleaned and maintained with parts replaced over the course of its life and was needed the zero adjusted to keep acceptable accuracy. Pat Rogers admitted in the article that they don't shoot much longer than 25yds at EAG so the gun only needed to be accurate enough for that. By the time it reached its final round count the gun was in condition to have been retired from anything other than a rental gun.
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Much appreciated. its pretty funny to me how significantly that helps
I think there is a conversation to be had about parts commonality replacement buddy replacement and the ability to repair gun Smith are built or modify which the AR15 is far superior at in every way shape and form plus the caliber choices for an AR15 the ability to really do anything with an AR15 from 22 long rifle to 762 by 39 I think this was a great video on practical fight in an application as it was in the title but I still think that the AR15 as AR15 as a system is better but I own both platforms and enjoy both equally and I will have to admit that if it were to come down to a grab one and go it would probably be my Z Pap92 or m90 Also I'm gonna have to agree with the one handed manipulation I use with the AK versus the ARI had an work related injury and required surgery which made the use of 1 arm not happening for months and then the surgery on the other arm caused a similar situation so training with a 1 handed and 1 armed life the AK actually was far superior it was easier it was cave person simple
I mean as far as parts breaking how often do parts on quality Ar15s or Aks break? Bolts last a long time springs last for several thousands of rounds and typically springs are easy to come by and ability to have different clamberings of a platform doesn't really matter. Dudes fight with 5.56 primarily with Ar15s. I've never seen a 22lr ar15 function well with any real use as dudes have brought those to classes during ammo shortages to save money and they got their asses kicked due to stoppages. .308 ar15s and 7.62x39 Ar15s also eat shit and break pretty easily if you run them like fighting rifles because the designs of the AR15 wasnt intended to handle the pressure and load differences of those rounds.
ARs break much easier and faster than an AK. I can melt down 90% of ARs where the AK will just keep running. AKs don’t really need spare parts like ARs do. Maybe one spare recoil spring and trigger springs. Like in 20k rds. Certainly not going to lose fifty-cents worth of spring and detent trying to field strip and clear a jam and have an AK go down over it like an AR. The AR design assumes operators have a massive infrastructure for parts and maintenance behind them. The AK design assumes you need a rifle that will not stop running and doesn’t need shit besides more ammo.
76.x39 isn’t cheaper anymore
Yes I’m aware, this video is now 2 years old and one drastically different economy out of date. Times change.
Thumbs down…….. Rite?
I like my AK a lot. Mines a Riley Defense. I also can't take anything from AR either. I think the AR wins on customizable, but AK when the best straight out of the box and tougher in the field challenge. The AK also wins the sights contest hands down. The AR does win on carrying ammunition though. The bullet is lighter and takes less room. The magazine is smaller and generally easier to change. AK wins for me though. Proven to true for to Long.
Agree, but the 5.56 and 5.45 Aks would like a word. Allot of the same advantages as the 47 but also with lighter, flatter shooting long range accuracy people talk about with AR.
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If I was in a large open area fire fight I would take the ar if I was going house to house or close urban environments the ak. Seems to me a flaw of the ak is range and accuracy so if I was the ar guy I would try to take it to the ak guy and keep that distance. Gunny did a video on this and it was funny when they were re-assemblying the rifles gunny hid some of the ak parts because it was easier to reassemble.
So I've hit an A zone sized piece of steel at 300 yards with an aimpoint T2 with a 12 inch AK supported only by the magazine. 5 consecutive hits and then did the same thing with irons on a 5.45 Saiga that I'd never used. Its accurate enough to hit whatever your eyes can see.
@@autonomousdefense Nice! Good to know!
@@autonomousdefense exactly if if if, haha the only "if" is how good the shooter is.
Yep, the ar is a great light cal carbine and the ak is the warfighter carbine
How many times did he say rite?
Enough that 2 years later people still comment about it
I run a makarov :) but anyways i love the AK platform awesome
Reminds me of regular guy training, even the way you talk
It’s a bad habit, I’ve taken a lot of his classes.
@@autonomousdefense I have a Romanian Sar-2 in 5.45. Do you think that with the ALG trigger (with the hammer face smoothed out and the parts cut) would it peen the hammer or would any form of deformation take place over time? Or should I stick with the factory trigger. Thanks
@@HuyLe-vo4pg go with the ALG trigger. Due to slight differences from gun to gun you’re going to have to check if there is any contact being made and modify it. I have another video that shows you how and what to look for.
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556 ak best of both worlds
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I’ll use a Ak where I’m from lots of woods n rivers n lakes mud etc
AK is the answer.
AK for life!
I’m not sure why dudes are so opinionated on which platform is better etc. For me it’s all about what you run well, what your homies run and what your use/terrain looks like. Now that ak ammo is the same cost as 556 I moved away from running AKs except when it makes sense (which is rare these days). Both are great platforms tho and I’m tired of guys on the internet saying they know one is better then the other yet they’re overweight unhealthy neckbeards
But we can all agree AKs look cooler, am I right or am I right?
So you don’t like the armalite? Lol
I like Ars plenty
For the same weight the AR will be suppressed and be better suppressed, parts is a big deal any body can swap any parts with ar15s. Swapping parts is far harder on an ak. Maintenance for an AR= oil it an run it. AR's will snake a round THROUGH armor faster then a x39 ak would no question running optics on an AR is far easier and more reilable than on an AK. Slightly less recoil means more shots in the vitals faster. Saying sand doesn't affect and ak at all is pretty stupid lol the AK and AR will likely do the same exact in the end test after test in mud sand dirt whatever one will fail one time the other will fail another we've seen this alot in the last month allover the tube. In the end I love all guns and could care less what the new Instagram fake gunner is doing I'm and enthusiast not an operator so I'll take either.
As far as the sand thing goes thats an example im giving entirely from classes ive taken in the 2000-4000 round counts in 3 or 4 days. I've watched them die repeatedly. As far as parts being easier to change that doesn't exactly matter when we're talking about fighting or battles but I do somewhat agree with you because quad 1913 rails are easier to change parts on, all you need is a flat head, unlike Mlok but by that same token dudes run Mlok more often nowdays. Show me a video where a mid tier AR15 handles that mud test garand thumb did. I really want to see BCM rifles go through it. And recoil management comes down entirely to you and the distances your shooting. 10 rounds in under 6 seconds in the A-zone of a uspsa target at 50 yards while standing straight up is difficult no matter what rifle you use because at 50-300 yards recoil will take you off target easier regardless of cartridge type. If you know the techniques you can do it with both though so that doesn't matter and inside 0-30 yards with a rifle it really doesn't matter.
And I dont understand your point about optics. Any optic you can run on an ar15 you can run on an ak.
@@autonomousdefense a block 2 is a Daniel defense the block 2 slayed that test even better than platforms u would never of guessed it to beat. And optics mounting on an AR is far easier and is more reliable I guess that's opinion but that's okay. Off set mounts and railed top covers will never best a rail built into an upper as one piece that's all I mean by that. Gas tube rails will burn up certain optics offset mounts are prone to more deflection than that of a built in pic rail on an upper
@@noluckpureskill9985 Ah so that was a DD. Excellent. I dont really agree with the optic mounting point. Shitty mounts by companies with poor design will always fail, shitty optics die on ultimaks of aks just like they do on SBR Scars chambered in 308. Weapon lights that are poor quality die from muzzle blast if they're very forward.
Aks have more than enough extremely solid mounting options that maintain zero just fine.
The zentico top cover and rail combo is excellent for example.
@@autonomousdefense I'm with ya, they do make highly adequate mounting solutions. I love both platforms regardless I honestly do. I'm just a fan of all guns. But ya I do believe what that block 2 was, was the clone that Daniel defense did themselves it was a factory clone of the block 2 an they've done em twice now at least small runs an u can nearly guarantee he got one
Parts compatibility is irrelevant. You might be swapping parts on an AR to keep it running or replace broken parts. You won't need to do that on an AK. There are fewer individual parts that can fail and they fail much less often. That's why it's harder to replace them; there are so few parts that a replacement is a major replacement in the gun. And the whole "AR will send a round through armor faster" is also irrelevant. Armor is designed to stop certain bullets and won't stop others. Most AR armor ammo will be stopped by level III armor and above. Even M193 or M855 will be stopped by increasingly common armor choices, and the NIJ has a whole new standard for armor certified to stop those rounds. The mud/sand thing is also irrelevant. We've seen tests of guns absolutely covered in mud or sand, which is not at all a realistic scenario. People that have actually used these guns in those environments testify otherwise. A little bit of mud in an AR action is bad, a little bit of mud in an AK action is OK. AKs are used the world over in sandy and tropical environments and function. ARs have had to undergo several redesigns and product improvements to get to achieve a standard of reliability in those same conditions.
AKM>M4
The reason you can have shorter barrel on 762 is due to the diameter of the barrel having more area to burn powder.
AR =🔥 AK = 💩
That’s fair
@@autonomousdefense Hey man that's just my opinion, i'd happily take an AK into combat and have every confidence, I would just prefer to have an AR if I had the option. Know what I mean brother?
@@tasjan9190 Yes.
Slow.
You're very passionate about your AK's like a jilted lover spurned by an AR. I like both as equal tools but I don't speak so aggressively and with such zeal about either.
Pause you can run 762x39 out of a 10.5 and lose no velocity from a 12.5 inch barrel as of 545 vs 556. 545 preforms better out of shorter barrels because of the shape and design of the case its 200fps slower overall because it holds less powder then 556 but it has a much higher bc. Because it has a much longer skinner bullet anyways I run a psa ak105 with slr free floating hand guard but I have sam7k 10.5 sks and gf3 in 762x39 the 20 inch barrel gives you no extra velocity over the 16 inch barrel BTW
5.45 also uses faster burning powder so it doesn't lose as much velocity per inch of barrel. Both the 7.62 and 5.45 Krinks are considered 300 meter guns by design.
You say “right” about every five seconds lol
I know it kills me