As a banshee owner myself, and owning many banshees in the past as well, I can say that most people don’t have any doubt about the banshee’s motor, it’s a great motor. It might be a little more complicated to work on than a normal 2-stroke, but when done right it is awesome. Most of the trails you were on are well traveled and groomed trails which works well for a banshee as well, but in tight and very technical trails the handling isn’t as good as many other sport quads. Yes, it will put handle ANY utility machine, but in comparison to a 250R, Tecate 250, LT250R, or any of the 400cc or 450cc pure sport machines the banshee doesn’t handle as good out of the box. That’s not yo say you can’t spend some money and make the suspension much better, but it seems to take a lot more money to build a banshee to compete in the handling department. That doesn’t mean it’s a terrible machine because it’s not at all, it’s just a machine for the “financially stable” if you are going to really build it to be a top competitor.
Hi Chris and thank you for the comment. First I'd like to respond to the comparison portion of your comment. When was the last time any of us have even seen a 250R, Tecate 250, or LT250R in the woods? I myself can only recall seeing a single 250R and a single LT250R (that was falling apart) in the past 20 years. This only reinforces the fact that the Banshee has stood the test of time in build quality and smiles per mile. As for the 400cc machines notably Honda's there are still a ton of them out there and will continue to be because there Honda's. I can't remember seeing any Suzuki LTZ400's either in many years.I guess the 400's are fair handling machines but really lack any exciting power. At this point it would be extremely rare to even own an "out of the box" Banshee. Now I do have one friend that still has stock shocks, stock A-Arms and a stock axle and the ride quality is not terrible but it beats the living death out of you. I'm not sure I agree with the statement that the Banshee will cost more to improve the handling characteristics than any other machine. I say that because your technically still buying 3 shocks, a set of A-Arms and an axle like everyone else (450's the possible exception). Last but not least is the 450 class and I happen to own one and love it. The frame geometry on this generation I will admit is far superior. They are better balanced with a better steering radius not to mention the exceptional all day long fuel mileage on the EFI models. My 2020 YFZ450R is also a great woods quad but man does it run hot and angry. Notably I had to sink thousands of dollars into it "out of the box" just to unlock its potential. Vortex computer, Fuel Customs intake, exhaust system, steering stabilizer all really added up quick. As for the trails I recorded this video on I can honestly say its the nicest its ever been. In past years its always been a rutted out mess with fallen trees and swap pits everywhere. The Nation Forest got some big grant money from the Trump administration and I must say they put it to good use. I'm 50 years old now and can appreciate some smoother trails for a change LOL! Again thank you for the comment I really appreciate it. I wish we could chat more but around a campfire next time!
@@350iroc9 I actually have a Honda ATC and a TRX 250R, an LT250R, a banshee, 3 blasters, and a Tri-Z250. I restore quads and trikes as a hobby. I’m part of a couple communities that ride these machines as well so I see them quite often. Hopefully soon my TH-cam channel will be up and you can check that out. I’m going to build a banshee for XC style racing, which is the style racing I do and I got my 2 daughters into it as well which is why I have 3 blasters. I do have a few 4-stroke machines as well, and you are right, they lack the excitement of a got old 2-stroke. My ‘99 400EX is much slower than my ‘97 Banshee, but it handles MUCH MUCH better. In the tight technical stuff the banshee can’t keep up, but as soon as the trail opens up into a straight away it’s game over. This is what prompted me to do an XC build on the banshee. Where I ride we spend majority of the time squeezing between trees, dropping into creek beds, crossing rivers, and climbing hills. I know the Banshee motor has the power, but the chassis is most definitely lacking. It will take more than a good set of shocks to make the difference, especially with the 400EX being far from stock with the motor and suspension. It is my old race quad from when I was a teen, and it has probably $15,000 worth of parts on it to make it as good as it is now, and still no match for the banshee power, or 250R power for that matter. I’m going to do the whole suspension on the Banshee to see if it can compare. Long travel arms, stage 5 shocks, -1 swing arm, lighter and stronger axle, and change the gearing. Right now the power is fine with just the Toomey pipes with the air box lid off and the carb jetted. The stock shocks are like pogo sticks though and they just don’t do what they need to do, plus the banshee is a little too long for super tight trails. Look, I’m not talking down on Banshees, they are just a machine for people with extra money to blow if you want it to handle on par with some of the more modern machines. With the proper suspension I feel like it could be formidable in the woods, but as they sit stock they are more of a desert/dune machine.
@@christopheravery5808 Wow that's is a impressive collection you have then! I really respect people that keep legacy machines on the trails. Unfortunately here in Ohio I just don't see any of those models anymore including any Blasters and really its a shame. That's also great that you have the little ones enjoying the sport and must make you a very proud Dad! I'm actually packing up now to head back down to the trails but its the 450's turn this time. If you do get your channel up and running please stop back with a link as I would definitely like to check it out. Thank you again and can't wait to see your XC Build!!!
@@350iroc9 that’s 20 years of buying basket cases and being a hoarder. I also had this bright idea to do a “vintage shootout” for a magazine back in the day which obviously never happened, so now I just collect. I wouldn’t have as many machines as I have but not a single machine cost more than $500 with the exception of the Tri-z and the Polaris Magnum I bought for an ex girlfriend to ride. I buy basket cases because they are fun to me. Between my mom and I we have 21 machines parked in 3 barn style sheds and my garage.
@@350iroc9 oh yeah, I actually bought a few of the machines in Ohio, my dad used to live in Akron, he moved to Arizona later in life where i was able to get some nice machines from. I live in middle tennessee
I'm 54 years old. Only atv I've ever owned sense the mid 80's has been and still is to the day a Yamaha banshee. I'm widened and lowered and more geared for flat track racing. But on off days when my wife wants to ride we do a 30 mile loop of seasonal and back roads. My body just isn't trail worthy as my bike is. Thanks for the tag along video
Hi Joel and thank you for the comment! I myself am 50 now and until recently have enjoyed the Banshee as my primary vehicle and honestly is still my favorite. I've always wanted to try some flat track racing but never had the opportunity. Just keep saying to yourself that 54 is the new 34 and lets keep going out there and enjoy what we love. I appreciate you watching and thanks again!
@CJ as for running out of gas so to say. When I was 34 I was popping like I was on nitro methane. Now days I'm more like a worn out hybrid suv with a week battery
I personally did all my trail riding as a child and teen on 2 stroke bikes trikes and atvs 4 strokes are now much more popular but back in the day 2 strokes were the way to go hell to rebuild a top end along with jetting carb replacing floats etc was easier than most people think nice vid btw.
I built mine for the trails, widened and the front end is a tad bit lower for drifting. Never had any issues. Made 59whp on the dyno, perfect for woods.
I've riden here several times. I have a 4mil banshee myself. Banshees (imo) love this shit. If you have it setup properly it's a blast in the woods. A lot of folks build engines, but never do the suspension. I've ran Elka Legacy on all my banshees. Personally! The fit me, and my riding style. You can make anything do anything. Just how far you want to take the build is the question.
I loved mine in the woods. Sold it for a yfz450 when I started racing motocross though. At the time it was the right move, now I just want that banshee back
I love banshees so much and want to own one so bad please continue to ride and take care of this beautiful machine as your future kids/grandkids may never get to experience this!
Hi Logan! I can promise you that I will continue to take care of the Banshee as I always have. I have one daughter of 13 but she really isn't into it. As for grandkids only the future will tell. Thanks for watching!
Nice Banshee! My banshee is setup for trail riding and I love it ( extended A arms and rear axle, elka long travel shocks, full skid plate, Dg bumper, grab bar, and nerf bars, and its geared down) The only thing I don't like is that its lower then stock so it doesn't take much to get stuck on a stump or in mud.
First thank you for the comment! So your setup is exactly what I think makes the Banshee an excellent woods machine. If you widen it up and bolt on a good set of shocks your golden minus the all essential carburetor tuning! I definitely agree with the one limitation being the low ground clearance issue. I've rolled over some sections of trails that I was almost positive I was going to get stuck on with my YFZ450r but made it. As I looked back I said to myself the Banshee would of definitely of gotten hung up. Thanks again and thanks for watching!
Looks like an excellent place to ride. Way back in the day I used to race hare scrambles with a 87 Fourtrax 250r so I love any kind of woods riding. I was a mid-pack finisher at best but it was fun. Like your Banshee btw 👍
Thanks for the comment! I always admired anyone who took the challenge to enter an organized race. I myself never managed to enter anything of the sort and suppose I would of been right there with you somewhere in the middle but certainly not in the back LOL! I'm just not aggressive enough and really try to ride my machines semi-conservatively to preserve them for the long haul. I guess my quad lasting 26 years puts the truth in that statement. I guess being fat and 50 will also help to propel its lifespan a few more miles down the old dusty trail. Thanks partner for watching. I hope it restored some of those 87 250R memories. Honda hit a home run with that one and certainly a crowd favorite!
Well thank you for the comment! That's great news your building a Banshee for trail use. Many people think they are just for the desert or wide open area riding. If you take the time to tune your machine it will run amazing with plenty of low and mid range power not to mention a ridiculous top end! I see you also posted a second question about the type of pipes I'm running and those would be the FMF Gold Series Fatty series. They are now 25 years old and have held up well. On a side note I'll record a video of what my quad is built with since the interest is there. Either check back or subscribe so you can get the finer details of my build. I really do think its become a great combination and a labor of love over the past 26 years. I have a pretty good grasp of what works and certainly what doesn't so don't hesitate to ask. Thanks again for watching and best wishes to you!
Bought a new banshee in 01, rode the trails here in WV for 7+ years. Stock other than gncc holeshots on the rear with the rims flipped to make the rear a bit wider. You gotta keep air circulating thru the radiator and don't let the radiator get clogged with mud.
So one issue with a stock banshee is the stock water pump impeller. Its made from some kind of plastic that eventually disintegrates in time. Your basically just left with a spinning shaft and no fins to push the coolant through. Once you replace the plastic impeller and gear with high flow billet ones your safe. As for the radiator "yes" it must be kept clean. I myself am quite OCD on that topic so I appreciate you mentioning it. Thanks for watching T and thank you for the comment!
16:10 - 17:55 is my favorite part. Its kinda how I ride.. lol.. I just like to go really fast sideways, and get from point A- B as fast as I can on bush trails... lol I'd like to try entering a Hare Scramble lol You should consider trying a twist throttle. I think you"d like it better. for comfort, and fatigue etc anyways, thanks for the vid, I realy enjoyed this!
I'm a banshee guy myself I have a 4mm for going out with my buddies and a close to stock 1 I ride in the sand ( not really a dune ) and trails near my house and to be honest it really beats me up in the rooted and rutted trails. Only prob I see with trail riding a shee is the excessive engine braking. Nice video keep up the good work
LQQK'S like a bunch of fun! I miss my RZ350'S and banshee's!...stay safe wear every piece of safety equipment available! It's a long story...God bless you and yours this Thanksgiving 🙏...from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
Greetings Bill of the great state of Wyoming! I always wished an RZ would find it's way my way! I really enjoy watching 2-stroke street bike videos on the tube! Thank you for watching and best wishes to you and yours!
@@350iroc9 I had 5 RZ350'S 2 black and yellow, 3 red and white one's. I'm surprised you haven't owned one! You are a tad older than I I'm almost 50yrs old and couldn't afford new bike's so I rode older bike's because they were plentiful and cheaper. My first street bike was a RD400 with a bunch of motor work. I love 2smokers on the streets. I still have most of my old toy's from before my accident, that I can't seem to part with. My flattracker is a bighorn 350 kawasaki, and a rotary engine 2stroke motorcycle that was made by Suzuki. It's an odd duck called the RE5, mines a 1975 that I was building as a saltflat bike. My goal was 200mph by adding a turbo, and a lil squirt of nitrous to get there. My bighorn was getting put back to running order after a BIG highside 10yrs earlier. It sat wrecked for a long time until I was finally getting to it. I'll be shopping for a 🦽soon and I need to get rid of all my stuff, so it doesn't rot away. My boat is the same deal, hasn't been wet since 2002. 1983 Hondo xh511 tdeck runner bottom V-drive with a 468BBC and a power glide transmission. Weren't rz's popular in your area? Oh a couple other's are a Honda dream 305cc, and a 79 xr80 that is a twin to a bike I had as a kid, my kid's learned to ride on this one....wear the gear to protect yourself, like a spine protector and chest/rib protection. I broke my back twice before getting disabled in a workplace injury in 2003. Now I'll explain everything that happened but it's a small book 📖 and I'm sure it's irrelevant to you. But God bless you and yours this holidays 🙏 and stay safe....from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
@@billallen4793 Hi Bill and thank you again for the good conversation. Honestly I've only seen one RZ350 around here and it was Red and White approximately 20 years ago! I just searched the classifieds and can only find a couple of them for sale from $11,000 ~ $14,900! Looks like I missed the window on these as they are true collectibles now. It sounds like you have a lot of stuff. I've definitely learned from watching others to start a project and finish the project before moving to the next. Hopefully you can clean house, hit the reset button, get your health past reserve and lock in on a passion. All the best and thanks again Bill.
I definitely agree as there is nothing like it! I can't even tell you the amount of people that approach me because of this quad. It seems like everyone has a story to tell from back in the day its absolutely amazing! Thank you for watching and thank you for the comment!
It really is super fun to ride! Its even more fun with all of the parts I install over the years. With that said my YFZ450r is definitely more refined and never temperamental to the conditions like the banshee. On the other hand the banshee is simple and the 450 complex. The 450 gets no attention and the Banshee get's it all! Thanks for watching!
I checked out your ebay listing. Looks like you are including the good type pressure gauge that is easy to read. I've never seen a rear storage rack like you have on your shee. Did you make it yourself?
@@350iroc9 Yes, The gauge is accurate and easy to read. I got the back rack from PRM Products Inc back in 2011. The company sold awesome aftermarket products for many bikes. They have since sent out of business. A real shame.
@@poolfixer I have PRM front and rear and love them! Yes it is a shame they are gone now as they were the best. Thank you for watching and Happy New Year!
i had a 90s banshee and use to ride trails, rocks, and deep water with it, and log crossings. it was gnarly. also got it out on friends full size mx track hitting some big gaps and rhythm sections with it. to be 17 again lol, sitting in my office at 35 now
Well there is only one way to find out - ask him..Push him a bit and afterwards he will thank you! Thanks for watching and hope you can get back out there!
Knew a guy who had a super cub he rode in the woods... 8 foot wide trails and that thing fucking ripped thru the timber hit a open spot and really open her up and jet in to the woods on the other side at 90mph
Its a good day when you see something like that go down! Super Cub 472 is like bolting on an auxiliry 125 motor to get silly with! Great comment and thank you for watching Big T!
@350iroc9 I'm in the market for another to build just like his old one I still have the build sheets for it he gave me.. need a good stock bike though their nuts in ohio 7 to 10k I look in Michigan and there 5 to 6 which is more reasonable
I'm in ohio an thought I herd you say something in the video about ohio, I'm interested in where your at, I'm looking for sum better trails an this place looks really good, thanks cool video I'm looking to get myself another banshee as I had one growing up an miss it more than any bike I ever had coop to see ppl still rippn em
Hi YakStream and thank you for watching! The trails in the video are filmed inside Wayne National Forest Ohio. From Cleveland they are exactly 3 hours away. If you do find a machine, feel free to contact me back and me and my friends will show you around the place. Looking at your channel it looks like your in to fishing! We love fishing and bring fishing rods with us on the trails. There are several opportunities to fish in some spring feed ponds including Monday Creek and the Hocking River!
@@350iroc9 awesome man ya an actually I've got a kx 450f but I'm wanting quad to go with it I'm not as young as I once was an holding on to that bike for long rides isn't as easy as it once was, jus gotta get myself back in shape
@@yakstreamtv495 Yak my buddy has a KFX450R and honestly I love it! You might dig it because it has reverse! Man if I had some land to ride on I would ride everyday! ATV riding certainly can get you in shape but it has to be consistent riding to turn back the sands of time. Just remember what the wise man once said" You ride the quad and not the quad ride you." Just jump in and do it! Take your time and let the confidence build. To me half the fun is shopping for parts, tearing it down to the frame and cleaning everything. My friends make fun of me but I'm the only one with their quad in their living room over winter LOL!!! Makes me smile everyday and that's "getting in shape" if you ask me! Stay cool and hope you choose the right path (pun intended)
@@350iroc9 I had a Honda 450r bout 15 yrs ago but I think I had more fun with my banshee.. I love my dirt bike just don't have the endurance to ride for as long as I'd like so I wanna get a quad so I can switch once the bike wears me out
@@yakstreamtv495 Dirt bikes are definitely a handful because crashing just seams to be expected. Cracked levers, bent bars, bent forks, dented radiators, dinged up pipe and a front fender pointing North East! That is an accurate description from my dirt bike years but do miss it just a little. You have so many more options when picking lines and can certainly go where no ATV has ever been before. Dirt Bikes are a fraction the amount of money to maintain, super easy to work on and take up less space. To own a Banshee you have to enjoy working on it. You also need to enjoy adding two of everything to your shopping cart. When they run right they are an absolute joy and are like nothing else. On the flip side if your not interested in taking your carburetors apart 10 million times only to find out you have an air leak or a out of spec stator, coil or CDI box then a new 450 class machine would be a better option. I have to admit that rolling up to a gas station pump without mixing oil is kind off nice. These EFI motors go twice the distance now on a tank of gas. The down side to either of them is the cost right now. A new 450 is 10K and then you have to find one. Before the 450 even touched the dirt I had to add a $700 vortex ECU, $250 intake and a $600 exhaust system so it didn't sound like a sowing machine. From what I see Banshee's cost more today then when they were new! I lost count years ago in money invested but honestly I don't care because I love it!
I wish manufactures could/would make two-stroke atv’s with a HI / LO / SUPER LO - 2WD/4WD for real trail riding over rocks,roots, and logs on trails in the woods!
Closest thing in the distance past was the first generation Polaris Scramblers. Big bore 2 stroke 4x4's. I do have to admit the 4x4's are super capable but with that comes twice the weight. Anytime I drive my Renegade I have to remind myself that it's 800lbs and not nearly as agile as my sport quads are. Thanks for watching and thank you for the comment!
No better quad in the woods than a banshee, obviously anything that is not running right is no good in any setting...a well tuned banshee will dominate in the woods all day...best quad hands down.
I wish I would have bought one of these back in the day. I had an 2002 Wolverine and absolutely loved it. However it just didn’t have the feel and sporty ride of the Banshee.
I'm not sure how to answer this question other than this quad is definitely not stock anymore and that's a good thing. Everything that has been added over the years has improved it. Thank you for watching!
Fouled spark plugs are either a sign of low quality 2-stroke oil, too much oil, too rich of jetting or a clogged air filter. Honestly the oil these days is far superior then the oil of the 80's and 90's. I've been using the same set of spark plugs for 3 seasons now and they are a beautiful chocolate brown color. Thank you so much for the comment and I really appreciate you watching!
Jeff thank you so much for watching! I got to be honest with you I absolutely despise Nerf Bars. They always seem to be the nemesis of any repair or adjustment. I was rebuilding my good buddies quad that has Nerf Bars and almost had a mental breakdown brother. For me heal guards are just fine and are simple+easy. Now that you mention it what are Nerf Bars even for? Keeping things from flying up at you or so another ATV riders tires don't get locked up with yours inside the hole-shot? Thank you again and if you know the answer I'd be curious to know....
@@350iroc9 more they will save you snapping your leg off when you go over a bump and slip of the pegs. I know of people who have done this and it's not pretty.
@@Jeffnz020 Sweet lord man that does not sound like a good day! No kidding aside I do know what your saying about slipping off. I do have some aftermarket foot pegs that swoop up on the sides like my 450R has. I think I'll go install them right now! Thanks again for the comment brother!
I’m coming from mx bikes really and electric bikes got a grizzly 350 currently and next is a banshee for me any tips for a first time owner? Anything you wish you were told and what’s basic maintenance I should do on it and how frequent ect Thankyou and keep up the good work love ur vids old and new
Sorry for the delayed response as I just got back from Glamis CA on a 10 day dune bender with the 450 this trip. The most important thing a Banshee needs is to insure there are no air leaks, good compression, good electrical and that it is jetted and synced correctly. First invest in a leak down tester from South Texas Banshee. You can find him on youtube easily and recommend watching all his videos. Test your stator and ensure its in specification. You will need a compression tester and a good multi-meter. From there you can start tuning your Banshee. Its imperative to check for air leaks and a good electrical system first before anything else or you will chase your tail in an endless circle of money and frustration. Only consider a clean machine from an owner who actually cared and with as many good aftermarket parts or close to bone stock. My quad has lasted this long because I take it completely apart every winter and clean every nut and bolt to perfection. If something is suspect, loose or worn out I replace it immediately. My quad has taken care of me so I in return take care of it. I'm here if you need me and welcome and questions. Best wishes....
@@350iroc9 I just did a 10 hour round trip from one end of uk to the other got one finally FMF pipes looks clean imported from USA im not really clued up to have it in bits just yet need to familiarise myself it it, would wanna take it somewhere to get a proper look over maybe
So its that long thumb throttle that actually keeps my thumb from giving out. The extended length provides more leverage and is night and day from the stock lever. Additionally I have a set of Keihin flat slide carbs installed that use much smaller diameter springs. Honestly its almost to easy to push now! Thanks for watching!
Back in the day ('70s-'80s) this was pretty much required as the bikes premix would not run very clean at idle or low RPM's for extended period of times. Technology since has come a long way. Now with a properly jetted bike running the proper mixture with good quality fuel rarely needs more than a few seconds of high revs to clear it all out. Thank you for the comment and thank you for watching!
I use stock gearing. I don't know the HP as I never had it on a dyno. When I filmed this video my main was a bit thin so I was just being careful with it. I've smoked a motor before and just don't want to go through that right now. LOL Thanks for watching!
the problem with this is it's a 2 stroke I love theme but when you are going downhill you could possibly seize the engine because there's no oil getting to the engine
@@350iroc9 im in Indiana usually go to badlands or haspin acres to ride but i want to go to that place one day i check is like 3 hours away from me not bad look super fun that place to ride
@@trailriders5186 Well it's exactly 3 hours from me as well! It's worth it for that time to drive. Hit me up in the spring and we'll give you the full tour!
Most people sell them on Facebook Market place. Realistically I think one that still needs some work is around $3500.00. The prices of these quads have really gone up in the past few years. Brand new in 2006 I remember them being $6199.00. I purchased mine in 1996 in new/used condition for $4000.00. It started its life in Purple/Yellow trim. Happy hunting and hope you can find one!
@@350iroc9 damn you've got history with yours. I remember seeing a couple sell for 2500 a few years ago, I want one but can't justify 5-7 grand for one
@@carter.coleman I guess you really would need to be at the right place at the right time to score a deal. These quads can get expensive real quick because your buying either 2 or 4 of most of the parts.
So I own both a 2 and a 4 stroke ATV. The 4 stroke definitely makes way better low end torque. And in all honesty it's just easier to ride. Yes you may need to rev the 2 stroker up a bit, but that's what they were designed to do right? If you ever get an opportunity to ride a Banshee be very careful as its hard not to fall in love.. I really appreciate you watching and thank you for the comment!
Hey Jody! I run my original set of FMF Gold Series Fatty pipes. They held up well over the years and have about an inch of Mother's polish on them LOL! Thanks for watching!
Ported Heads 60 over pistons Phat Head with 19mm domes 28mm PWK Flat slides running 160 main and 55 pilot FMF Fatty Pipes Elka Stage 3 all around with Elka Link system +1 +2 Alba A-Arms Lone Star +0 swing arm Dominator axle YFZ450 Front brake conversion South Texas nose mount harness that relocates the CDI, rectifier and coolant bottle to the nose. That I think is all the main components. Tons of incidentals not worth mentioning. Thanks for watching!
In the 90's and early 2000's GNCC racing pro class.. there was not one banshee.. every bike was a custom honda 250r.. Banshee had shit suspension and did was junk in the trails.. I was there.. no one had banshee's.. No one with skill or a brain even tried to compete in a GNCC race on one..
LOL I'm sure! Where did all that infrastructure money go? I actually just got back from this same ride location and currently it's a mess. When this video was filmed it was the best it's ever been there. They claim there is no funding to fix the trails this year. Thanks for watching!
As some one that actually knows about quads no it's not sadly..... Best dune riding bike by far but close corners and slowing down constantly it lacks ....
First thanks for the comment. Yes that is a campground. The reason everyone is on top of each other is its the holiday weekend and real estate is at a premium.
I guess it depends on what school your from. I can't say I agree with you that they "suck" in the woods but are more challenging than modern 4-strokes. Secondly I will take a manual clutch over a CVT belt system any day. I for sure about this as I have both types. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
Probably the kick starter. The kick starters are known to rattle and it drives me nuts. I've rebuilt it countless times but it keeps coming back. Good ear Bee! Thanks for watching!
@@Bee-fr7zk Bee I currently don't know of any that are for sale. My group has about 10 of them but even if one did go up for sale someone from the group would swoop it up. The prices on them seam to of really gone up these past few years. They are definitely a good investment at around $4G's well equipt seeing that a YFZ450R is 10G's and then you have to put 2+ more into it right off the showroom floor.
Just killed my suzook LT230s, lost my oil fill cap, there was a mistvon my goggles, then I see my leg covered in oil! Arrggh . I thought, oh well, cooked a top end. But I'm sure the crank & rod took a lot of heat, so doing a piston & rebore would be wasted money on top of a bad lower end.safety wire those caps people ! Dont do the Iggy like I did. 16km walk back to truck. In MX boots. 5 hrs. Ugh. Starting at 7:30 pm . A can of pineapple juice & a pepperoni stick waiting in the truck gave me the will to live. I was armed with a stick & 2 flashlights . Good times , eh!
Hi Richard and I'm sorry to hear your nightmare story! Really if the crank didn't seize and still spins freely and doesn't sound like a diesel after putting oil back in it then it should be okay right? Hopefully you spent the couple extra bucks for the full synthetic as that stuff is so slick it probably will of survived (I hope!) One of the benefits of a 2-stoke motor is the transmission is completely isolated from the crank. My oil fill cap literally requires a set of pliers to get it to loosen but after hearing your story I guess that's a good thing! I have a similar story from way back a yester-year when I lost my Hi-output stator about 10 miles in and in total darkness alone and not so much as a tick-tac to live on. My minds eye conjured up the thought of a roaming gang of Black Mamba snakes that were sizing me up for the take down. I found a nearby river and literally stood on an exposed rock for 7 hours until sunrise and walked myself back to my truck. I drove 2 hours to a buddies house and convinced him to lend me his full electrical system off his quad and made the trek back. I camouflaged my quad so well I had a hard time finding it again! Thanks for the comment - Best of luck getting your machine back on the trails - lesson learned and just keep telling yourself it could always be worse!
@@350iroc9 it was a used quad when I got it, I put in a new piston, 25 good rides, I got that thing hot, I'm hesitant to put new parts on that high hrs crank. The chassis is al fresh though, so maybe if I find an o.k. running unit or lower end. I'll ressurect it. I was lucky, it was a cloudy drizzle day, nobody up there, on nice days there's OHV riders & 4x4 s around. Could have turned out way worse. If I was injured I would have just made a fire, stayed put . I wear full MX gear every ride , I expect to spill , & intend to get up after ! Ha ha . Still got my suzook DR to finish the riding season so all's not lost, eh I was staggering back to truck, tired, dehydrated, hungry, shouting " bears, cougars, yeti , I'm ready , turn ya into alphaghetti!" - I figured that I was better off to be a noisy thing than a silent thing travelling in the dark, & I'll get what i get , I was in MX boots, I considered taking them off, they hurt after a while,that would have been a bad move . Left quad 7:30 pm, got to truck 12:30. Went to get quad & helmet the next day . A valuable lesson about riding alone & not near others, I got complacent & almost got bit by it ...
@@350iroc9 * wow, just read your ordeal, my bad day wasn't half that ; my LT 230 is a tired 4 strike, I use Castrol m/ c oil & changed it frequently. I'll find another engine, just have to wait & be ready. A couple atv wreckers have ones but they don't know what's up with them they might not be any better. I'll just wait for another LT to turn up.for sale, this is my 3rd one I've owned , they are light, Narrow, easy to get unstuck , strong brakes, not powerful or fast but good for woods work , & real.easy on gas. I'll find an o.k. unit with a decent engine & maybe thrashed chassis
Trails that suck are definitely off the menu. The parts on these things are expensive and to just tear everything up would be a sin. Sounds like you need a Bobcat and an Argo 6x6 to start the project. LOL..Thanks for watching!
I have rode 2 stroke bikes and quads for over half of my life and I suggest that this dude needs to drop a gear and Rev that motor a shit ton more than what he's doing in this video. I would be slipping and sliding all over these trails with those 2 stroke power reeds begging for a break. If you are operating a 2 stroke motorbike and you are cruising, you need to shift down 1 or 2 gears and get in that powerband and let the suspension do its best to accommodate your wild ride. I hate seeing a 2 stroke rider that isn't always in the powerband. I would get in that 1st gear powerband around corners and shift to 2nd without a doubt in my mind and wheelie drift the next corner because that is what these 2 strokes was made for and not pussy footing around on trails.
Mr. abc123, can I ask your current age? The reason I ask is because you sound like you're possibly still in the 30-40 timeframe? Am I accurate on this assumption? One of the points of this video is to show that a well tuned 2-stroke can be driven in a mild manner. I do understand that many of the rigs of the past were only rideable when on the pipe and anything else was unusable. I guess the only thing I can leave you with is that my quad or any other for that matter would have never lasted 28 years and counting riding the way you're recommending. This machine can be extremely violent and if not respected could change the course of life. At this point of being over 50 I'm just thankful to still be riding a sport quad and not a couch on wheels 4x4 or UTV. Additionally you may of heard me say that these are two way trails inside this park. Over the years I've come across fellas riding the way your recommending and in a handful of those times witnessed some people that never went home. Sadly the people who lost their lives were not always the guy riding irresponsibly and one of them was a little kid of only 10. I've been doing this long enough and know better than to be "slipping and sliding" into blind corners or short sighted sections of path. Again I can only assume your still in your younger years or your riding environment was not comparable to this ones. I don't want to come across as a Dad and can understand where you're coming from in your comment but those days are over for me. The good news is that we would all love to see your video riding like you stole it! I like you am very entertained with top end 2 stroke action! Thanks for watching Mr. abc123 and thank you for the comment.
My 26 year old sister could ride tht banshee on the back tires tht whole trail not let off the gas once screaming fmfs only sound good when hauling ass
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As a banshee owner myself, and owning many banshees in the past as well, I can say that most people don’t have any doubt about the banshee’s motor, it’s a great motor. It might be a little more complicated to work on than a normal 2-stroke, but when done right it is awesome. Most of the trails you were on are well traveled and groomed trails which works well for a banshee as well, but in tight and very technical trails the handling isn’t as good as many other sport quads. Yes, it will put handle ANY utility machine, but in comparison to a 250R, Tecate 250, LT250R, or any of the 400cc or 450cc pure sport machines the banshee doesn’t handle as good out of the box. That’s not yo say you can’t spend some money and make the suspension much better, but it seems to take a lot more money to build a banshee to compete in the handling department. That doesn’t mean it’s a terrible machine because it’s not at all, it’s just a machine for the “financially stable” if you are going to really build it to be a top competitor.
Hi Chris and thank you for the comment. First I'd like to respond to the comparison portion of your comment. When was the last time any of us have even seen a 250R, Tecate 250, or LT250R in the woods? I myself can only recall seeing a single 250R and a single LT250R (that was falling apart) in the past 20 years. This only reinforces the fact that the Banshee has stood the test of time in build quality and smiles per mile. As for the 400cc machines notably Honda's there are still a ton of them out there and will continue to be because there Honda's. I can't remember seeing any Suzuki LTZ400's either in many years.I guess the 400's are fair handling machines but really lack any exciting power.
At this point it would be extremely rare to even own an "out of the box" Banshee. Now I do have one friend that still has stock shocks, stock A-Arms and a stock axle and the ride quality is not terrible but it beats the living death out of you. I'm not sure I agree with the statement that the Banshee will cost more to improve the handling characteristics than any other machine. I say that because your technically still buying 3 shocks, a set of A-Arms and an axle like everyone else (450's the possible exception). Last but not least is the 450 class and I happen to own one and love it. The frame geometry on this generation I will admit is far superior. They are better balanced with a better steering radius not to mention the exceptional all day long fuel mileage on the EFI models. My 2020 YFZ450R is also a great woods quad but man does it run hot and angry. Notably I had to sink thousands of dollars into it "out of the box" just to unlock its potential. Vortex computer, Fuel Customs intake, exhaust system, steering stabilizer all really added up quick.
As for the trails I recorded this video on I can honestly say its the nicest its ever been. In past years its always been a rutted out mess with fallen trees and swap pits everywhere. The Nation Forest got some big grant money from the Trump administration and I must say they put it to good use. I'm 50 years old now and can appreciate some smoother trails for a change LOL! Again thank you for the comment I really appreciate it. I wish we could chat more but around a campfire next time!
@@350iroc9 I actually have a Honda ATC and a TRX 250R, an LT250R, a banshee, 3 blasters, and a Tri-Z250. I restore quads and trikes as a hobby. I’m part of a couple communities that ride these machines as well so I see them quite often. Hopefully soon my TH-cam channel will be up and you can check that out. I’m going to build a banshee for XC style racing, which is the style racing I do and I got my 2 daughters into it as well which is why I have 3 blasters. I do have a few 4-stroke machines as well, and you are right, they lack the excitement of a got old 2-stroke. My ‘99 400EX is much slower than my ‘97 Banshee, but it handles MUCH MUCH better. In the tight technical stuff the banshee can’t keep up, but as soon as the trail opens up into a straight away it’s game over. This is what prompted me to do an XC build on the banshee. Where I ride we spend majority of the time squeezing between trees, dropping into creek beds, crossing rivers, and climbing hills. I know the Banshee motor has the power, but the chassis is most definitely lacking. It will take more than a good set of shocks to make the difference, especially with the 400EX being far from stock with the motor and suspension. It is my old race quad from when I was a teen, and it has probably $15,000 worth of parts on it to make it as good as it is now, and still no match for the banshee power, or 250R power for that matter. I’m going to do the whole suspension on the Banshee to see if it can compare. Long travel arms, stage 5 shocks, -1 swing arm, lighter and stronger axle, and change the gearing. Right now the power is fine with just the Toomey pipes with the air box lid off and the carb jetted. The stock shocks are like pogo sticks though and they just don’t do what they need to do, plus the banshee is a little too long for super tight trails.
Look, I’m not talking down on Banshees, they are just a machine for people with extra money to blow if you want it to handle on par with some of the more modern machines. With the proper suspension I feel like it could be formidable in the woods, but as they sit stock they are more of a desert/dune machine.
@@christopheravery5808 Wow that's is a impressive collection you have then! I really respect people that keep legacy machines on the trails. Unfortunately here in Ohio I just don't see any of those models anymore including any Blasters and really its a shame. That's also great that you have the little ones enjoying the sport and must make you a very proud Dad!
I'm actually packing up now to head back down to the trails but its the 450's turn this time. If you do get your channel up and running please stop back with a link as I would definitely like to check it out. Thank you again and can't wait to see your XC Build!!!
@@350iroc9 that’s 20 years of buying basket cases and being a hoarder. I also had this bright idea to do a “vintage shootout” for a magazine back in the day which obviously never happened, so now I just collect. I wouldn’t have as many machines as I have but not a single machine cost more than $500 with the exception of the Tri-z and the Polaris Magnum I bought for an ex girlfriend to ride. I buy basket cases because they are fun to me. Between my mom and I we have 21 machines parked in 3 barn style sheds and my garage.
@@350iroc9 oh yeah, I actually bought a few of the machines in Ohio, my dad used to live in Akron, he moved to Arizona later in life where i was able to get some nice machines from. I live in middle tennessee
I'm 54 years old. Only atv I've ever owned sense the mid 80's has been and still is to the day a Yamaha banshee. I'm widened and lowered and more geared for flat track racing. But on off days when my wife wants to ride we do a 30 mile loop of seasonal and back roads. My body just isn't trail worthy as my bike is.
Thanks for the tag along video
Hi Joel and thank you for the comment! I myself am 50 now and until recently have enjoyed the Banshee as my primary vehicle and honestly is still my favorite. I've always wanted to try some flat track racing but never had the opportunity. Just keep saying to yourself that 54 is the new 34 and lets keep going out there and enjoy what we love. I appreciate you watching and thanks again!
@CJ as for running out of gas so to say. When I was 34 I was popping like I was on nitro methane. Now days I'm more like a worn out hybrid suv with a week battery
I personally did all my trail riding as a child and teen on 2 stroke bikes trikes and atvs 4 strokes are now much more popular but back in the day 2 strokes were the way to go hell to rebuild a top end along with jetting carb replacing floats etc was easier than most people think nice vid btw.
I love trail riding on sports quads ... the maneuver game is insane 💯💪🏾👌🏾
I agree
I built mine for the trails, widened and the front end is a tad bit lower for drifting. Never had any issues. Made 59whp on the dyno, perfect for woods.
I watched some of your vids they are super cool! They made me wish I still had my old Conquest TSI Turbo! Thanks for watching brother!!
I've riden here several times. I have a 4mil banshee myself. Banshees (imo) love this shit. If you have it setup properly it's a blast in the woods. A lot of folks build engines, but never do the suspension. I've ran Elka Legacy on all my banshees. Personally! The fit me, and my riding style. You can make anything do anything. Just how far you want to take the build is the question.
the answer is YES my banshee is so fun in dirt and rocks.
"Got to be careful, they're a lot of little kids" Braaaaap braaap BRAAAAP!!😂
I loved mine in the woods. Sold it for a yfz450 when I started racing motocross though. At the time it was the right move, now I just want that banshee back
Its always important to pick the right tool for the task at hand. Wouldn't it be great if you could find her again in the toolbox of hindsight?
I love banshees so much and want to own one so bad please continue to ride and take care of this beautiful machine as your future kids/grandkids may never get to experience this!
Hi Logan! I can promise you that I will continue to take care of the Banshee as I always have. I have one daughter of 13 but she really isn't into it. As for grandkids only the future will tell. Thanks for watching!
Nice Banshee! My banshee is setup for trail riding and I love it ( extended A arms and rear axle, elka long travel shocks, full skid plate, Dg bumper, grab bar, and nerf bars, and its geared down) The only thing I don't like is that its lower then stock so it doesn't take much to get stuck on a stump or in mud.
First thank you for the comment! So your setup is exactly what I think makes the Banshee an excellent woods machine. If you widen it up and bolt on a good set of shocks your golden minus the all essential carburetor tuning! I definitely agree with the one limitation being the low ground clearance issue. I've rolled over some sections of trails that I was almost positive I was going to get stuck on with my YFZ450r but made it. As I looked back I said to myself the Banshee would of definitely of gotten hung up. Thanks again and thanks for watching!
What kind of gearing you have set up? Looking to make mine a little better in the woods
That was mesmerizing to watch and I would have loved it, excellent riding
Thank you Mr. Roberts!
It is relaxing and smooth
Shee sounds good! Keep the Banshee vids coming!
Stay safe.
Well thank you Mr. Boost! I'll let her know and plan to have another video in a couple weeks! Thanks for watching!
Looks like an excellent place to ride. Way back in the day I used to race hare scrambles with a 87 Fourtrax 250r so I love any kind of woods riding. I was a mid-pack finisher at best but it was fun. Like your Banshee btw 👍
Thanks for the comment! I always admired anyone who took the challenge to enter an organized race. I myself never managed to enter anything of the sort and suppose I would of been right there with you somewhere in the middle but certainly not in the back LOL! I'm just not aggressive enough and really try to ride my machines semi-conservatively to preserve them for the long haul. I guess my quad lasting 26 years puts the truth in that statement. I guess being fat and 50 will also help to propel its lifespan a few more miles down the old dusty trail. Thanks partner for watching. I hope it restored some of those 87 250R memories. Honda hit a home run with that one and certainly a crowd favorite!
Just finished rebuilding the entire rear end of mine today and finally got to take a rip after 6 months down 😊
So how did she run?
Damn cool. Beautiful place to ride.💪👍🇺🇸
Thank you for watching! This is from Wayne National Forest in Southern Ohio! Love it there!
Can’t believe how smooth she runs. Sounds like it be happy putting around all day.
Yes thank you! Here is another from the other side! th-cam.com/video/x53R1J_4dzA/w-d-xo.html
great video! i am building a trail banshee and this video was great to watch : )
Well thank you for the comment! That's great news your building a Banshee for trail use. Many people think they are just for the desert or wide open area riding. If you take the time to tune your machine it will run amazing with plenty of low and mid range power not to mention a ridiculous top end! I see you also posted a second question about the type of pipes I'm running and those would be the FMF Gold Series Fatty series. They are now 25 years old and have held up well.
On a side note I'll record a video of what my quad is built with since the interest is there. Either check back or subscribe so you can get the finer details of my build. I really do think its become a great combination and a labor of love over the past 26 years. I have a pretty good grasp of what works and certainly what doesn't so don't hesitate to ask. Thanks again for watching and best wishes to you!
@@350iroc9 thank you! im subscribed : )
One of the best Woods quads. Any two-stroke will shine in the woods. Small right areas. With some straight to blow out the smoke build up.
Amen to that David! Thanks for watching!
Bought a new banshee in 01, rode the trails here in WV for 7+ years. Stock other than gncc holeshots on the rear with the rims flipped to make the rear a bit wider. You gotta keep air circulating thru the radiator and don't let the radiator get clogged with mud.
So one issue with a stock banshee is the stock water pump impeller. Its made from some kind of plastic that eventually disintegrates in time. Your basically just left with a spinning shaft and no fins to push the coolant through. Once you replace the plastic impeller and gear with high flow billet ones your safe. As for the radiator "yes" it must be kept clean. I myself am quite OCD on that topic so I appreciate you mentioning it. Thanks for watching T and thank you for the comment!
16:10 - 17:55
is my favorite part. Its kinda how I ride.. lol..
I just like to go really fast sideways, and get from point A- B as fast as I can on bush trails... lol
I'd like to try entering a Hare Scramble lol
You should consider trying a twist throttle. I think you"d like it better.
for comfort, and fatigue etc
anyways, thanks for the vid, I realy enjoyed this!
I'm a banshee guy myself I have a 4mm for going out with my buddies and a close to stock 1 I ride in the sand ( not really a dune ) and trails near my house and to be honest it really beats me up in the rooted and rutted trails. Only prob I see with trail riding a shee is the excessive engine braking. Nice video keep up the good work
You learn to pull the clutch in and rev it
How do you like your 4mil build? And what kind is it? Once mine blows ill probably go with a 4mil, not sure which one to get
Looks like the answer is yes! 👍
6:25 “traffic around here gotta be careful” *floors the gas*
LQQK'S like a bunch of fun! I miss my RZ350'S and banshee's!...stay safe wear every piece of safety equipment available! It's a long story...God bless you and yours this Thanksgiving 🙏...from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
Greetings Bill of the great state of Wyoming! I always wished an RZ would find it's way my way! I really enjoy watching 2-stroke street bike videos on the tube! Thank you for watching and best wishes to you and yours!
@@350iroc9 I had 5 RZ350'S 2 black and yellow, 3 red and white one's. I'm surprised you haven't owned one! You are a tad older than I I'm almost 50yrs old and couldn't afford new bike's so I rode older bike's because they were plentiful and cheaper. My first street bike was a RD400 with a bunch of motor work. I love 2smokers on the streets. I still have most of my old toy's from before my accident, that I can't seem to part with. My flattracker is a bighorn 350 kawasaki, and a rotary engine 2stroke motorcycle that was made by Suzuki. It's an odd duck called the RE5, mines a 1975 that I was building as a saltflat bike. My goal was 200mph by adding a turbo, and a lil squirt of nitrous to get there. My bighorn was getting put back to running order after a BIG highside 10yrs earlier. It sat wrecked for a long time until I was finally getting to it. I'll be shopping for a 🦽soon and I need to get rid of all my stuff, so it doesn't rot away. My boat is the same deal, hasn't been wet since 2002. 1983 Hondo xh511 tdeck runner bottom V-drive with a 468BBC and a power glide transmission. Weren't rz's popular in your area? Oh a couple other's are a Honda dream 305cc, and a 79 xr80 that is a twin to a bike I had as a kid, my kid's learned to ride on this one....wear the gear to protect yourself, like a spine protector and chest/rib protection. I broke my back twice before getting disabled in a workplace injury in 2003. Now I'll explain everything that happened but it's a small book 📖 and I'm sure it's irrelevant to you. But God bless you and yours this holidays 🙏 and stay safe....from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
@@billallen4793 Hi Bill and thank you again for the good conversation. Honestly I've only seen one RZ350 around here and it was Red and White approximately 20 years ago! I just searched the classifieds and can only find a couple of them for sale from $11,000 ~ $14,900! Looks like I missed the window on these as they are true collectibles now.
It sounds like you have a lot of stuff. I've definitely learned from watching others to start a project and finish the project before moving to the next. Hopefully you can clean house, hit the reset button, get your health past reserve and lock in on a passion. All the best and thanks again Bill.
Best ever made
YES! Thank you for watching!
It would be great to see a video on how you tuned your banshee for trail riding : )
Gotta love the sound of a twin 2 stroke Yamaha banshee or twin snowmobile engine
I definitely agree as there is nothing like it! I can't even tell you the amount of people that approach me because of this quad. It seems like everyone has a story to tell from back in the day its absolutely amazing! Thank you for watching and thank you for the comment!
Greetings from the USA. If you ever visit here you can ride the Yamaha Banshee to experience it yourself!
They make a good trail bike as long as theres not crazy ruts they dont have much ground clearance
That is a very true statement. Anytime I get stuck it's because the rear skid plate bottoms out. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the ride, I enjoyed it.
You are most welcome! I'm marking off the days until the trails open back up. It's been a long cold winter around here. Thank you for watching!
Still THE KING 👑
Even if it isn’t a great woods quad, I bet it’s still super fun to ride around on
It really is super fun to ride! Its even more fun with all of the parts I install over the years. With that said my YFZ450r is definitely more refined and never temperamental to the conditions like the banshee. On the other hand the banshee is simple and the 450 complex. The 450 gets no attention and the Banshee get's it all! Thanks for watching!
I love them as trail bikes
Amen to that! Thank you for watching!
I love this video! I own two Banshees currently. I have leakdown kits for Sale on eBay for any build you have or need! (East Coast Banshee).
I checked out your ebay listing. Looks like you are including the good type pressure gauge that is easy to read.
I've never seen a rear storage rack like you have on your shee. Did you make it yourself?
@@350iroc9 Yes, The gauge is accurate and easy to read. I got the back rack from PRM Products Inc back in 2011. The company sold awesome aftermarket products for many bikes. They have since sent out of business. A real shame.
@@poolfixer I have PRM front and rear and love them! Yes it is a shame they are gone now as they were the best. Thank you for watching and Happy New Year!
i had a 90s banshee and use to ride trails, rocks, and deep water with it, and log crossings. it was gnarly. also got it out on friends full size mx track hitting some big gaps and rhythm sections with it. to be 17 again lol, sitting in my office at 35 now
35 is the new 25 man! Do you think you will ever get back out there?
I took 20 years off from racing MX now I’m 35 just got my banshee two years ago and will never sell it!
Man, this takes me back when I used to go on trails with my dad.
Edit: No, he's not dead, we just don't do it anymore I dont know why.
Well there is only one way to find out - ask him..Push him a bit and afterwards he will thank you! Thanks for watching and hope you can get back out there!
Knew a guy who had a super cub he rode in the woods... 8 foot wide trails and that thing fucking ripped thru the timber hit a open spot and really open her up and jet in to the woods on the other side at 90mph
Its a good day when you see something like that go down! Super Cub 472 is like bolting on an auxiliry 125 motor to get silly with! Great comment and thank you for watching Big T!
@350iroc9 I'm in the market for another to build just like his old one I still have the build sheets for it he gave me.. need a good stock bike though their nuts in ohio 7 to 10k I look in Michigan and there 5 to 6 which is more reasonable
@@350iroc9 125 with big bore kit lmaooo
Wishing I would of bought one 5-6 years ago when I was seeing them anywhere from 3k -5k, now something used and ridable is 10k+
I remember a time you couldn't give them away! These quads were about 6K new 30 Years ago.
Das beste Quwad das jemals gebaut wurde 👍👌👏
Translation: "The best quad ever built!" Jawohl! Vielen Dank fürs Zuschauen!
I have a clean 1995 banshee still with the purple and yellow plastics
That's the color combination I started with but Santa gifted me the blue so blue it is. Thanks for watching!
@@350iroc9 clean bro
It's all about that clutch
Good vidéo 👍🔥
How long has everyone here owned their banshee and she’s still running good
BAD ASS!!!!
Thank you sir! Very kind of you. All the best....
I'm in ohio an thought I herd you say something in the video about ohio, I'm interested in where your at, I'm looking for sum better trails an this place looks really good, thanks cool video I'm looking to get myself another banshee as I had one growing up an miss it more than any bike I ever had coop to see ppl still rippn em
Hi YakStream and thank you for watching! The trails in the video are filmed inside Wayne National Forest Ohio. From Cleveland they are exactly 3 hours away. If you do find a machine, feel free to contact me back and me and my friends will show you around the place. Looking at your channel it looks like your in to fishing! We love fishing and bring fishing rods with us on the trails. There are several opportunities to fish in some spring feed ponds including Monday Creek and the Hocking River!
@@350iroc9 awesome man ya an actually I've got a kx 450f but I'm wanting quad to go with it I'm not as young as I once was an holding on to that bike for long rides isn't as easy as it once was, jus gotta get myself back in shape
@@yakstreamtv495 Yak my buddy has a KFX450R and honestly I love it! You might dig it because it has reverse! Man if I had some land to ride on I would ride everyday! ATV riding certainly can get you in shape but it has to be consistent riding to turn back the sands of time. Just remember what the wise man once said" You ride the quad and not the quad ride you." Just jump in and do it! Take your time and let the confidence build. To me half the fun is shopping for parts, tearing it down to the frame and cleaning everything. My friends make fun of me but I'm the only one with their quad in their living room over winter LOL!!! Makes me smile everyday and that's "getting in shape" if you ask me! Stay cool and hope you choose the right path (pun intended)
@@350iroc9 I had a Honda 450r bout 15 yrs ago but I think I had more fun with my banshee.. I love my dirt bike just don't have the endurance to ride for as long as I'd like so I wanna get a quad so I can switch once the bike wears me out
@@yakstreamtv495 Dirt bikes are definitely a handful because crashing just seams to be expected. Cracked levers, bent bars, bent forks, dented radiators, dinged up pipe and a front fender pointing North East! That is an accurate description from my dirt bike years but do miss it just a little. You have so many more options when picking lines and can certainly go where no ATV has ever been before. Dirt Bikes are a fraction the amount of money to maintain, super easy to work on and take up less space.
To own a Banshee you have to enjoy working on it. You also need to enjoy adding two of everything to your shopping cart. When they run right they are an absolute joy and are like nothing else.
On the flip side if your not interested in taking your carburetors apart 10 million times only to find out you have an air leak or a out of spec stator, coil or CDI box then a new 450 class machine would be a better option. I have to admit that rolling up to a gas station pump without mixing oil is kind off nice. These EFI motors go twice the distance now on a tank of gas. The down side to either of them is the cost right now. A new 450 is 10K and then you have to find one. Before the 450 even touched the dirt I had to add a $700 vortex ECU, $250 intake and a $600 exhaust system so it didn't sound like a sowing machine. From what I see Banshee's cost more today then when they were new! I lost count years ago in money invested but honestly I don't care because I love it!
I wish manufactures could/would make two-stroke atv’s with a HI / LO / SUPER LO - 2WD/4WD for real trail riding over rocks,roots, and logs on trails in the woods!
Closest thing in the distance past was the first generation Polaris Scramblers. Big bore 2 stroke 4x4's.
I do have to admit the 4x4's are super capable but with that comes twice the weight. Anytime I drive my Renegade I have to remind myself that it's 800lbs and not nearly as agile as my sport quads are. Thanks for watching and thank you for the comment!
That looks like so much fun
Yes it's an absolute blast! I wish I could ride everyday! Thank you for watching!
those trails look like fun
No better quad in the woods than a banshee, obviously anything that is not running right is no good in any setting...a well tuned banshee will dominate in the woods all day...best quad hands down.
I wish I would have bought one of these back in the day. I had an 2002 Wolverine and absolutely loved it. However it just didn’t have the feel and sporty ride of the Banshee.
What are you currently running?
I'm not sure how to answer this question other than this quad is definitely not stock anymore and that's a good thing. Everything that has been added over the years has improved it.
Thank you for watching!
Kodak; gracias
They are good on long rides but stop n go crew rides I blew thew plugs.Other than that loved mine.
Fouled spark plugs are either a sign of low quality 2-stroke oil, too much oil, too rich of jetting or a clogged air filter. Honestly the oil these days is far superior then the oil of the 80's and 90's. I've been using the same set of spark plugs for 3 seasons now and they are a beautiful chocolate brown color. Thank you so much for the comment and I really appreciate you watching!
beautiful walk
my cousin did a back flip on a 2 stroke banchi 4 wheeler. now he got a air plane and drops toilet paper over the fort rock oregon house funny funny
dis is so sick
Get some nerf bars dude. Sweet bike!
Jeff thank you so much for watching! I got to be honest with you I absolutely despise Nerf Bars. They always seem to be the nemesis of any repair or adjustment. I was rebuilding my good buddies quad that has Nerf Bars and almost had a mental breakdown brother. For me heal guards are just fine and are simple+easy.
Now that you mention it what are Nerf Bars even for? Keeping things from flying up at you or so another ATV riders tires don't get locked up with yours inside the hole-shot? Thank you again and if you know the answer I'd be curious to know....
@@350iroc9 more they will save you snapping your leg off when you go over a bump and slip of the pegs. I know of people who have done this and it's not pretty.
@@Jeffnz020 Sweet lord man that does not sound like a good day! No kidding aside I do know what your saying about slipping off. I do have some aftermarket foot pegs that swoop up on the sides like my 450R has. I think I'll go install them right now! Thanks again for the comment brother!
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Thank you for watching Keith!
I’m coming from mx bikes really and electric bikes got a grizzly 350 currently and next is a banshee for me any tips for a first time owner? Anything you wish you were told and what’s basic maintenance I should do on it and how frequent ect Thankyou and keep up the good work love ur vids old and new
Sorry for the delayed response as I just got back from Glamis CA on a 10 day dune bender with the 450 this trip. The most important thing a Banshee needs is to insure there are no air leaks, good compression, good electrical and that it is jetted and synced correctly. First invest in a leak down tester from South Texas Banshee. You can find him on youtube easily and recommend watching all his videos. Test your stator and ensure its in specification. You will need a compression tester and a good multi-meter. From there you can start tuning your Banshee. Its imperative to check for air leaks and a good electrical system first before anything else or you will chase your tail in an endless circle of money and frustration. Only consider a clean machine from an owner who actually cared and with as many good aftermarket parts or close to bone stock. My quad has lasted this long because I take it completely apart every winter and clean every nut and bolt to perfection. If something is suspect, loose or worn out I replace it immediately. My quad has taken care of me so I in return take care of it. I'm here if you need me and welcome and questions. Best wishes....
@@350iroc9 I just did a 10 hour round trip from one end of uk to the other got one finally FMF pipes looks clean imported from USA im not really clued up to have it in bits just yet need to familiarise myself it it, would wanna take it somewhere to get a proper look over maybe
@@DRIP_SZN Can you send some pictures? I would love to see it! jason.lakis (at) gmail
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Undefeated on superbike;winds out in an wheelie;two stroke
It’s a great woods machine, If you know how to ride it.
Don’t your hand get cramped up with that long thumb throttle? I know I would but I’m getting old. Lol. Love the vid.
So its that long thumb throttle that actually keeps my thumb from giving out. The extended length provides more leverage and is night and day from the stock lever. Additionally I have a set of Keihin flat slide carbs installed that use much smaller diameter springs. Honestly its almost to easy to push now! Thanks for watching!
I’m 60 years old. I would love to jump on that and take her for a little spin.
I'm 52 and plan to ride it to the end! Remember 60 is the new 50 so the time is now my friend! Thanks for watching!
You gotta open that thing up and clear it out once in awhile 😆
Back in the day ('70s-'80s) this was pretty much required as the bikes premix would not run very clean at idle or low RPM's for extended period of times. Technology since has come a long way. Now with a properly jetted bike running the proper mixture with good quality fuel rarely needs more than a few seconds of high revs to clear it all out.
Thank you for the comment and thank you for watching!
what gearing are you using? are you pushing like 80 horse ? it seems like the thing never opened up
I use stock gearing. I don't know the HP as I never had it on a dyno. When I filmed this video my main was a bit thin so I was just being careful with it. I've smoked a motor before and just don't want to go through that right now. LOL Thanks for watching!
the problem with this is it's a 2 stroke I love theme but when you are going downhill you could possibly seize the engine because there's no oil getting to the engine
How so
The oil of today will prevent that from happening. I always bip the gas on down hills also.
That seems like your talking about four strokes
@@350iroc9 KK
@@DRIP_SZN its a 2 stroke so it relises on gas and oil mixed
Man i want to ride with u one day mine is 95
That would be great! Is your 95 dressed in Purple and yellow still?
@@350iroc9 no black with orange stuff
@@350iroc9 im in Indiana usually go to badlands or haspin acres to ride but i want to go to that place one day i check is like 3 hours away from me not bad look super fun that place to ride
@@trailriders5186 Well it's exactly 3 hours from me as well! It's worth it for that time to drive. Hit me up in the spring and we'll give you the full tour!
Awesome trails where at?
Hi Luke! These trails are located inside the Wayne National Forest in Southern Ohio. Thanks for watching!
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Mantap is an Indonesian word which means “Excellent.” Thank You!
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I want a banshee, where can I get broken ones for cheaper or like barn finds?
Most people sell them on Facebook Market place. Realistically I think one that still needs some work is around $3500.00. The prices of these quads have really gone up in the past few years. Brand new in 2006 I remember them being $6199.00. I purchased mine in 1996 in new/used condition for $4000.00. It started its life in Purple/Yellow trim. Happy hunting and hope you can find one!
@@350iroc9 damn you've got history with yours. I remember seeing a couple sell for 2500 a few years ago, I want one but can't justify 5-7 grand for one
@@carter.coleman I guess you really would need to be at the right place at the right time to score a deal. These quads can get expensive real quick because your buying either 2 or 4 of most of the parts.
In my opinion 4 strokes are better woods quads then 2 strokes because 4 strokesdont have to be reved out as much
So I own both a 2 and a 4 stroke ATV. The 4 stroke definitely makes way better low end torque. And in all honesty it's just easier to ride. Yes you may need to rev the 2 stroker up a bit, but that's what they were designed to do right? If you ever get an opportunity to ride a Banshee be very careful as its hard not to fall in love.. I really appreciate you watching and thank you for the comment!
Is this Blazer original ?😮
what pipes are you running on there for trail riding?
Hey Jody! I run my original set of FMF Gold Series Fatty pipes. They held up well over the years and have about an inch of Mother's polish on them LOL! Thanks for watching!
Whats all done to it as far as in thus video?
Ported Heads
60 over pistons
Phat Head with 19mm domes
28mm PWK Flat slides running 160 main and 55 pilot
FMF Fatty Pipes
Elka Stage 3 all around with Elka Link system
+1 +2 Alba A-Arms
Lone Star +0 swing arm
Dominator axle
YFZ450 Front brake conversion
South Texas nose mount harness that relocates the CDI, rectifier and coolant bottle to the nose.
That I think is all the main components. Tons of incidentals not worth mentioning. Thanks for watching!
@Whoop!
In the 90's and early 2000's GNCC racing pro class.. there was not one banshee.. every bike was a custom honda 250r.. Banshee had shit suspension and did was junk in the trails.. I was there.. no one had banshee's.. No one with skill or a brain even tried to compete in a GNCC race on one..
Exactly. They're fun and can go fast in a straight line. That's all they have going for them.
What trails were you riding on?
This was filmed inside the Wayne National forest in Ohio.
The roads in Nashville are worse than that! 😂
LOL I'm sure! Where did all that infrastructure money go?
I actually just got back from this same ride location and currently it's a mess. When this video was filmed it was the best it's ever been there. They claim there is no funding to fix the trails this year. Thanks for watching!
As some one that actually knows about quads no it's not sadly..... Best dune riding bike by far but close corners and slowing down constantly it lacks ....
Great vid! Is that a campground?? Camper on top of camper.
First thanks for the comment. Yes that is a campground. The reason everyone is on top of each other is its the holiday weekend and real estate is at a premium.
What park is this and where is it?
Wayne National Forest in Ohio.
Harleys version if a v twin 6 speed ATV
Did you say Ohio?? What part I’m close to Ohio. Florence Ky.
Inside the Wayne National Forest south of Columbus. Going to be there this weekend!
@@350iroc9 so that’s not to awful far from Cincinnati is it??
@@jacobhendrickson8935 Looks like 2.5 hours for you. It takes me 3 hours from Cleveland!
Two strokes suck in the woods,along with manual clutches. These things have one purpose,and they are great at it.
I guess it depends on what school your from. I can't say I agree with you that they "suck" in the woods but are more challenging than modern 4-strokes. Secondly I will take a manual clutch over a CVT belt system any day. I for sure about this as I have both types. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
Ok
“Those look like democrats or something “ 😂 🤘🏻
Honest to God right! 🙄
What is that rattle I hear when your not on the gas so much?
Probably the kick starter. The kick starters are known to rattle and it drives me nuts. I've rebuilt it countless times but it keeps coming back. Good ear Bee! Thanks for watching!
@@350iroc9hey do you know where I can get a banshee I’m from pa?
@@Bee-fr7zk Bee I currently don't know of any that are for sale. My group has about 10 of them but even if one did go up for sale someone from the group would swoop it up. The prices on them seam to of really gone up these past few years. They are definitely a good investment at around $4G's well equipt seeing that a YFZ450R is 10G's and then you have to put 2+ more into it right off the showroom floor.
Dam
Just killed my suzook LT230s, lost my oil fill cap, there was a mistvon my goggles, then I see my leg covered in oil! Arrggh . I thought, oh well, cooked a top end. But I'm sure the crank & rod took a lot of heat, so doing a piston & rebore would be wasted money on top of a bad lower end.safety wire those caps people !
Dont do the Iggy like I did. 16km walk back to truck. In MX boots. 5 hrs. Ugh. Starting at 7:30 pm . A can of pineapple juice & a pepperoni stick waiting in the truck gave me the will to live. I was armed with a stick & 2 flashlights . Good times , eh!
Hi Richard and I'm sorry to hear your nightmare story! Really if the crank didn't seize and still spins freely and doesn't sound like a diesel after putting oil back in it then it should be okay right? Hopefully you spent the couple extra bucks for the full synthetic as that stuff is so slick it probably will of survived (I hope!) One of the benefits of a 2-stoke motor is the transmission is completely isolated from the crank. My oil fill cap literally requires a set of pliers to get it to loosen but after hearing your story I guess that's a good thing!
I have a similar story from way back a yester-year when I lost my Hi-output stator about 10 miles in and in total darkness alone and not so much as a tick-tac to live on. My minds eye conjured up the thought of a roaming gang of Black Mamba snakes that were sizing me up for the take down. I found a nearby river and literally stood on an exposed rock for 7 hours until sunrise and walked myself back to my truck. I drove 2 hours to a buddies house and convinced him to lend me his full electrical system off his quad and made the trek back. I camouflaged my quad so well I had a hard time finding it again!
Thanks for the comment - Best of luck getting your machine back on the trails - lesson learned and just keep telling yourself it could always be worse!
@@350iroc9 it was a used quad when I got it, I put in a new piston, 25 good rides, I got that thing hot, I'm hesitant to put new parts on that high hrs crank. The chassis is al fresh though, so maybe if I find an o.k. running unit or lower end. I'll ressurect it. I was lucky, it was a cloudy drizzle day, nobody up there, on nice days there's OHV riders & 4x4 s around. Could have turned out way worse. If I was injured I would have just made a fire, stayed put . I wear full MX gear every ride , I expect to spill , & intend to get up after ! Ha ha . Still got my suzook DR to finish the riding season so all's not lost, eh
I was staggering back to truck, tired, dehydrated, hungry, shouting " bears, cougars, yeti , I'm ready , turn ya into alphaghetti!" - I figured that I was better off to be a noisy thing than a silent thing travelling in the dark, & I'll get what i get , I was in MX boots, I considered taking them off, they hurt after a while,that would have been a bad move . Left quad 7:30 pm, got to truck 12:30. Went to get quad & helmet the next day . A valuable lesson about riding alone & not near others, I got complacent & almost got bit by it ...
@@350iroc9 * wow, just read your ordeal, my bad day wasn't half that ; my LT 230 is a tired 4 strike, I use Castrol m/ c oil & changed it frequently. I'll find another engine, just have to wait & be ready. A couple atv wreckers have ones but they don't know what's up with them they might not be any better. I'll just wait for another LT to turn up.for sale, this is my 3rd one I've owned , they are light, Narrow, easy to get unstuck , strong brakes, not powerful or fast but good for woods work , & real.easy on gas. I'll find an o.k. unit with a decent engine & maybe thrashed chassis
These aren't the wood trails I have at home. My Banshee hates our trails, as do I.
Trails that suck are definitely off the menu. The parts on these things are expensive and to just tear everything up would be a sin. Sounds like you need a Bobcat and an Argo 6x6 to start the project. LOL..Thanks for watching!
I have rode 2 stroke bikes and quads for over half of my life and I suggest that this dude needs to drop a gear and Rev that motor a shit ton more than what he's doing in this video. I would be slipping and sliding all over these trails with those 2 stroke power reeds begging for a break. If you are operating a 2 stroke motorbike and you are cruising, you need to shift down 1 or 2 gears and get in that powerband and let the suspension do its best to accommodate your wild ride. I hate seeing a 2 stroke rider that isn't always in the powerband. I would get in that 1st gear powerband around corners and shift to 2nd without a doubt in my mind and wheelie drift the next corner because that is what these 2 strokes was made for and not pussy footing around on trails.
Mr. abc123, can I ask your current age? The reason I ask is because you sound like you're possibly still in the 30-40 timeframe? Am I accurate on this assumption?
One of the points of this video is to show that a well tuned 2-stroke can be driven in a mild manner. I do understand that many of the rigs of the past were only rideable when on the pipe and anything else was unusable.
I guess the only thing I can leave you with is that my quad or any other for that matter would have never lasted 28 years and counting riding the way you're recommending. This machine can be extremely violent and if not respected could change the course of life. At this point of being over 50 I'm just thankful to still be riding a sport quad and not a couch on wheels 4x4 or UTV.
Additionally you may of heard me say that these are two way trails inside this park. Over the years I've come across fellas riding the way your recommending and in a handful of those times witnessed some people that never went home. Sadly the people who lost their lives were not always the guy riding irresponsibly and one of them was a little kid of only 10. I've been doing this long enough and know better than to be "slipping and sliding" into blind corners or short sighted sections of path. Again I can only assume your still in your younger years or your riding environment was not comparable to this ones.
I don't want to come across as a Dad and can understand where you're coming from in your comment but those days are over for me. The good news is that we would all love to see your video riding like you stole it! I like you am very entertained with top end 2 stroke action!
Thanks for watching Mr. abc123 and thank you for the comment.
0:26 why it sounds like lawnmower
What kind of lawnmower have you been using son because I want one!
Yes if u know how to ride it
My 26 year old sister could ride tht banshee on the back tires tht whole trail not let off the gas once screaming fmfs only sound good when hauling ass
Well send a link over as we would love to see it! Thanks for watching Luke!
Where is this in Ohio
Wayne National Forest. It's near Nelsonville, Ohio, on US Route 33
Somone let me ride there banshee and call and ambulance
H'eeeeeerrrreeee... LOL
That’s a Dirty oh banshee delm
if you know who has a banshee for sale let me know i live in ohio
I don't know of any for sale currently but will let you know if one comes up. Thanks for watching!