Drag Race: Quadzilla VS Banshee!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มิ.ย. 2023
- It's the Quadzilla vs the Banshee in an epic vintage 2 stroke ATV showdown! Watch as these vintage ATVs go head-to-head against each other in a classic drag race! We pit these classic 2 stroke performance 4 wheelers against each other in this 6-race video! If you love old school ATVs the video is a MUST WATCH! It's father vs son in this epic 2 stroke performance vintage ATV battle!
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It sounds like the banshee needs a clutch!
It's good.
Front sprocket is to small in my opinion
Definitely needs some
If that banshee will stay with that 500 .. IT DONT NEED A CLUTCH..
@stoney093 I think should have pulled off on it not keeping up with it if didn't need some plates 🤷🏾♂️
When I was 12 my sister’s boyfriend had a banshee, his neighbor had a quadzilla. Banshee was red & white, quadzilla was same as this. Both machines were absolutely incredible at the time. This video hit me in the feely’s of being a kid 30 yrs ago
That's exactly why we do this. Thanks for watching.
Same hear when I was a young kid. But I couldn't kick the suzuki over.
Holy smokes I just clicked on a portal to my childhood.
Cool then we did our job!
That 2-stroke sound brings back memories lol
Love it!
Sure does… i miss 2 strokes!!!!
Only the race I have been waiting for since childhood!
Glad we can be here for that!
Great race. Really nice to see father and son races.
Thanks for watching!
My son and I do the same. We have a Banshee and a KTM525XC
Great video! Always have been curious on these two.
Yes I was too. Thanks for watching.
2 of the greatest quads of all time. I had both of them many years ago. Wish I still had them! Great video.
Thank you appreciate it!
LOVE that old 'Zilla! I've never ridden one but would love to someday.
Really digging your videos, just a couple regular guys doing some real world drag racing for the fun of it.
Yeah we are just having fun!
My buddy bought a brand new guadzilla it was a monster !! Left it bone stock
@@g-man-uz3gx smart man!
I have one bone stock bought brand new in 88, holy hell, I’m 150 pounds probably shouldn’t ride the thing hahah
@@thebanditabromowicz awesome!
owned both, in stock form the quadzilla always beats a banshee, always. Back in the day 3-4 wheel action magazine bored a banshee to 400 and still lost in stock form. Sold my 87 quadzilla because parts were $$$$ and hard to find. Currently have 2 421 banshees, i can get all the parts i need for cheap. If your looking to buy one of these machines get a banshee and save the hassle of the Suzuki parts issues. What a great time for atvs, kind of like muscle cars of the late 60s, lots of power!
I agree these things were like the muscle car ear but for atvs!
People always want to compare these two machines but its apples and oranges. Even bored to 400cc its still spotting the Suzuki 100cc so not a fair comparison. When I raced back in the 80’s I NEVER lost to a Suzuki 500 because with little modification the Yamaha would easily outperform and out handle the Suzuki “Quadzilla”…
@mikecoe4003 this is just for fun... it is what it is... a real life comparison that happened back in the day a lot.
@@mikecoe4003 The fact that the Banshee is a twin is what makes the comparison interesting. That narrows the 150cc gap.
You said the truth Suzuki lt500 can beat the banshee easily, but to get oem or aftermarket parts is like finding gold is really hard and expensive, so that's why the banshee is the king of 2 cycle ATVs at this point of time
The banshee was coming for you though in the top end😂
Yes it was.
Awesome video guys! 👊🏻
Thanks jimbo!
I already knew who was going to win but still fun to see. Love to get my hands on one of those Suzuki’s
Agreed. It's still a fun race though.
You've never seen a built banshee.
@@snipehunter795 and??
My stock raptor and stock yfz will outrun my slightly modified banshee so I’m not real surprised. These are prolly the 2 most iconic quads of all time and damn near look new. Great video!!
Thanks appreciate the comments. I am surprised the Raptor beats it though. I'd like to try that race too.
LOL 😂🤪
You need to do this race again this year! This was fun to watch
We will.
One of my favourite memories with my dad is racing, but we were on snowmobiles!!! Cherished memories ❤
It's a great time.
Nice classic machines! Blue banshee is sweet for sure.
Thanks brother!
Fun race. Stock out of the box the quadzilla has held its own over the years. You got alot in stock form without having to modify much for more performance unlike the banshee.
For sure it's in a league of its own.
It was the quickest of the atv's as long as it was running. the LT500 wasn't known for its reliability.
I owned a Quadzilla for years sold it in my mid 20's. My buddies all had Banshee's some heavily modified. The results were exactly the same. Quadzilla is a faster machine and so easy to ride because its a torque monster. I didn't need to be on the pipe and could still climb anything! The wheel base is also a lot longer than the Banshee. The Banshee was fun to wheelie on or tight twist trails but pure speed was home for the Quadzilla. Too bad I didn't keep it.
The quadzilla makes a lot of banshee guys mad. Thanks for the reminiscing.
@@TheMapleDude1The LT250R made a lot of Banshee guys mad
The Banshee does sound pretty wicked!
Brappp!
The Banshee needs holeshot tires I guarantee it would look different
Probably right, but I still don't think it would win.
This looked like fun. Wanted a zilla when i was a kid in the early 90s after seeing one shredding the trails and was crazy enough to ask my mom for one.😂 fast forward to 2008 and i bought one, still have it. Need a banshee now
Awasome that you got one. I saw them back in the 80s never got one till 2022!
Quadzilla is a beast but the sound of the banshee start up made me smile 😃👍 great video
I agree... I love both. Thanks for watching!
I was going to call Banshee, but man you need to teach your son how to shift and stay in the powerband 😅 I'd launch my Banshee in 3rd, 2nd on the streets and fry the tires.... that 12k pinned for 4 seconds each was painful 😖
Edit, i take it back, neither of you can 😬😅
Why don't you come and teach us with all the expertise you have. But we'll take the comments... you help us make more $$ off the videos. Thanks bud.
@@TheMapleDude1 I know you make that money, I'm not hating, it's called a constructive critique, it's not my fault you guys have great bikes and can't even ride 😅
I was maybe 15 and my BIL had a banshee and a Yamaha 250r, he would do almost exactly as Johnny is saying and it was a scary few seconds just watching. Maybe try it out versus barking?
@@KalleeBossHonda 250R.
Neither were getting high into the power band honestly
It's called quadzilla for a reason.. bone stock screamer
Yep enough said.
Memories….. Priceless,
Thanks brother
Reinacting my childhood here.. I had a ‘96 Banshee my buddy had that Suzuki 500… I could always win the hole shot but that 500 would make up ground with top end for sure… awesome video guys. Stay safe.
Thanks for watching. Yeah definitely good times and memories!
Nice bikes! Brings back memories! That 500 is the fastest quad ever made. Stock its faster than any new modified quad ever made.
True!
I would love to see how my Honda 700xx would do again either machine. I dropped my front sprocket down one tooth and added 20 percent more takeoff speed. Best $20 ever spent. Great video guys, thanks.
I would too! Where are you located?
Ohio@@TheMapleDude1
The Honda 700xx don't have what it takes to beat these machines in n drag racing sorry!
I have a 700xx never lost to a banshee on hardpack or asphalt.
You would get drug, like ugly drug, by the banshee as well. Better get you another 20% somewhere.
I just bought a 88' LT500 'quadzilla' 2 days ago. Cant believe i finally own one! Its defense insane to ride. Now looking for a banshee for my collection.
You are a lucky man.
Cool video guys. It's not like the Zilla is smoking the Shee (no pun intended) but does have a 150cc advantage. I would say in the woods or on a tight grass track the Shee would not have much of a disadvantage. Thanks for taking the risk and showing some cool old 2-strokes quad from a by-gone era.
Thanks for watching brother... we appreciate comments like this.
I think that exhaust was paying some dividends on the Banshee. Quadzilla should have walked away imho. Were you holding back a little there pops? lol.
Jack is a better rider than me. But we will rematch with a few more minor mods to the banshee to see if it can catch up.
Hey how bout a blaster vs. the 200x or sumthin along those lines. Love ur content maple dudes, keep it comin.
We can do it. Thanks!
I’m not a Banshee fan but the pitch of the motor never changed until 4/5 shift. It leads me to believe it was just spinning every gear or needs a clutch.
I believe it was lots of spinning. Well try to clean that up.
I had the Ltr 250 and 500. Amazing quads.
Yes they are... we have both as well.
seems like those banshee shifts are close together bet if put a smaller sprocket on the Banshee the shifts would be like the Quadzilla and tires would spin so much but im pretty surprised the banshee kept up that close to the beast Quadzilla
I belive both machines have stock sprockets on them.
Couple things here
1 banshee needs a clutch
2 tire diameters need to match for a fair race
Awesome video guys
Clutch is re done already. But I hear you.
Banshee got a pipe too. Tire size AND gearing , fuels and oils , equal driver weight and driving skills, alot of variables. Put a decent pipe on zilla and watch it eat banshee for dinner. No replacement for displacement.
Just some food for thought just make sure both power bands on both cylinders are kicking in on that banshee cuz if not that thing is going to be a turd and it looks like it's a turd to be honest
@@user-jx8jb1vq3ythere's no such thing as a PowerBand it's just a saying for the feeling cos 2 strokes scream up top
Banshee doesn’t sound like it’s all there.
Awesome videos keep em coming. I use to have an 86 250 r fourtrax and wish I still had it….also had a tecate 250 had an 84 model…..I ride grizzly 700 now…..kid has a 660 raptor
Love hearing it.
Could be wrong but it sounds like the clutch is slipping in the banshee…. That may be why it was closer race last time… maybe?….. just a suggestion!… great video though.. gotta love those 2 strokes!!
Other ppl have commented that. I didn't seem to notice it. But I'll take a look again.
Cool video. Makes me miss my Tecate.
Yeah lots of good memories with these things.
Quadzilla is a beautiful bike ,I rem seeing the first one brand-new in a fourwheeler/dairy queen when I was a kid
Yep I hear you. It was the stuff of dreams back then.
Awesome machines! I had wondered if the Banshee being a twin-cylinder could close the displacement advantage of Quadzilla. I would be interested to see how your lighter ATC250R or Tecate 3 would do against these quads in a drag race.
We will find out for you. I like the idea!
@@TheMapleDude1 Fastest Quad of all time vs. Fastest Trike of all time!! You guys be careful at those extreme speeds and thanks for the videos.
Tecate or 250r will beat a banshee no problem. My tri z eats them no problem
@@Cobra37061 we will
@@ls1_cammeroh well find out what ours do.
Man these are some absolutely beautiful machines pretty cool too see
Thanks man.
Zilla is a torque monster 👾
The best!
Father Vs Son🥲❤️ Goals
Appreciate it.
No front/rear sprocket size????? that's a BIG thing in racing. If the both had the same gearing (rear ÷ front = your gear ratio) it'll tell the true story.
Each machine has stock sprockets.
@@TheMapleDude1 Quadzilla 13/42 Banshee 14/41
Ratio: Q-3.231 B-2.929
Higher ratio (Quadzilla) will get out quicker BUT because the Banshee has 1 more tooth on the front sprocket, it's not that big of a gap.
Lower ratio (Banshee) will have a higher top speed BUT not that much higher, because of that bigger front sprocket...
Sorry... I'm a 100% Disabled Combat Veteran that's a nerd about things. So, it's just cool seeing things work out with mathematical sequence in real time 😂🤷♂️
@@tankeater I appreciate it. Thanks for taking the time to figure it out.
@@TheMapleDude1 🤘
Enjoy this time Dad. When the Son finally becomes a better rider than you the pendulum doesn’t go back 😂. Good vid yall from TN
I love the time my friend.
Love the old school Suzukis
Us too. Thanks for watching!
Zilla on dirt needs start out in 2nd. And the faster you shift it the better it pulls. The Shee wont hook up till about 3rd gear. Just spins. Try same thing on better traction surface get better results
You are right not much low end in a banshee.
Zilla takes it 🏆
Easily!
Awesome!!!
Thanks brother.
Sick machines!!!
Thanks man
Same results as dirtwheels magazine back in the day
I probably had that magazine.
@@TheMapleDude1 were can I find that issue in the dirtwheels archives
@@richardmoseley8486 just search online?
Shift the Banshee sooner, you are past the peak and falling off the power, it will lose but be closer.
We'll work on it
I feel like with the 150cc difference, the fact that the Banshee is a twin cylinder is the reason it is even close to the Quadzilla, and if it was a single cylinder like the Suzuki, it wouldn't be as close. Because the weight difference is only like 6 or 7 lbs. The Quadzilla 392 lbs and the Banshee is around 385 lbs.
Good observations thanks for watching this! It's a fun race. We will rematch.
500cc vs 350cc. Banshee is cool and has a smaller footprint, but it was never faster then the LT500
I think you're right.
Quadzilla alll the way
It's really a beast of a machine!
Something is def not right with the banshee
It runs good. But maybe the clutch needs to be rebuilt.
@@TheMapleDude1 clutches and a different front sprocket
It's a hookup factor..think about it!! The banshee makes more horsepower...think about how fourstrokes took over motorcross..the four stroke a a wider power band range.. which allows less wheel spin..gives it better traction..two strokes have a more rapid and violent power band which gives away to wheel spin..which is slower..even though they are both two strokes the banshee is more violent and making more power..only at higher rpm..that's why its needs a close ratio transmission to keep it on that range..the 500 makes its power low end to mid at a longer range..just as the fourstrokes do.. quadzillas motor and transmission was tested and improved many years in the rm250 and rm 500 bikes ti give it a better platform for dragracing
In my opinion the 350 motor is not a good design for this set up .put them on pavement you might really see that close ratio transmission come into play when it hooks up and u keep it up on the power band it's gonna move out my friend
But on the dirt that big bore 500 and its tourqe is a beast ..it's hooking up a lot better
Great videos! Make a limited edition quadracer maple syrup bottle please!!!! If you did that for atv/atc that be cool
It would be cool.
If memory serves, the LT500 used a detuned variant of the original RM500 engine. As a result, one could make a far more powerful Quadzilla simply by blueprinting the LT500 to RM500 specs, or transplanting the stock RM500 straight into an LT500 chassis.
This brings to mind the question: what is the best all-around engine shared by both ATVs and big-bore off-road bikes? The immediate engine that comes to mind is the 650cc Honda four-stroke as used in the XR650R “Big Red Pig”, which exists as a fuel-injected variant in its Fourtrax counterpart.
Maybe a big bore 2 and 4 stroke comparison video is needed, and the winning motor is Frankensteined into a donor Fourtrax 250 to create the ultimate sleeper.
Those are some nice ideas. Check out a few other videos. We did race 2 stroke vs 4 stroke in at least one.
That banshee heavily needs a clutch lol, hope you guys run it back again! Good vid though!
Yeah yeah I get it. I have a kit.
@@TheMapleDude1wait for another race . Can’t let the banshee go out like that on a bad clutch dope video very entertaining. Also I think experience plays a major factor with a good clutch n your riding experience he shouldn’t beat you on any machine
@jolouis7491 new clutch is already in.
jacks not shifting when he thinks he is
It may have happened.
Brother man hope your boy knows how lucky he is. You have one of the best collection's in the our country 🇺🇸 and maybe even the world. It's unbelievable. I would love to come and visit with you
He is a lucky kid. It took me a long time to get to this point!
@@TheMapleDude1 I'm sure it did. Great job bud 👍👍
And the Winner is ? DUST !!!! 😂
I hear you
highly interesting^^
Great
My uncle had a quadzilla, and his son had a 1988 banshee, i used to race them with my dad's 1986 Honda trx 250r... fun times each quad has its niche.. the 250r being the track quad the zilla sheer power and hills, but once the banshee gets in the sand, nothing seems to touch it 🤷♂️
I agree! Each awesome machines!
Stock Quadzilla exhaust is very restricted, put a Q-pipe on it and it's bye bye Shee...!
I agree. It's hard to mess with these all original machines at this point though. They are worth more. But I know I could keep the original.
I had a 500 with DG pipe and silencer, re-jetted, K&N filter, and would beat any Banshee not running race fuel. I was geared up a bunch and the torque that 500 had was awesome!
Great machine, banshee guys are mad.
Most insane 2WD is quad i’ve owned was a Bombardier DS 650 6 speed manual. that thing was crazy!
I want to drive one of those.
That banshee is just spinning in that dirt
Yes, it is.
I had a quesadilla and there is at least 20 hp difference between them! Not a fair race for the Banshee!
Yeah it was just for fun.
I love the banshee twin exhaust whine, gets me fired up to ride every time I hear it
Me too... live the sound!
That zilla rips the banshee every time
Yep!
No replacement for displacement ! cool video
Thanks.
Thanks man!
🤦♂️🤦♂️
God bless you guys
You too my friend.
Long live the SMOKERS!!!!!!!
We will keep em alive!
The way daddy was keeping close on the banshee verifies my suspensions that he was holding back on the quadzilla, at least a little.
I can't give away any secrets.
Quadzilla is the true beast!
My buddy had one and it hurt everybody!!
It's a mean machine!
If the banshee would hook up it would probably be the fastest I would still rather have the banshee love the sound of it one of a kind
We will rematch.
The Banshee will stay neck and neck with the 500 no problem once you learn how to stay in the power band. They really don’t like hanging out in the high RPM’s much as the power band is narrow and drops off fast. Have to slam gears off quick to stay in the power without wringing out every gear. Got beat by tons of quads when I first got mine. After learning how to stay in the power I hung with everything and beat plenty of quads stock for stock no problem. Fast quads but require experience and knowledge to get the most out of em unlike a lot of quads with wide, flat power bands.
Agreed. Check out the Rematch video we just made.
Loved my quadzilla.
Me, too.
Always found the banshee was geared more for woods riding, while the quadrille was more open terrain, dune style
I actually feel like they are the the opposite in that the banshee doesn't have much low end.
@@TheMapleDude1 The one I rode might have been geared for the woods then, it had tons of low end grunt and it topped out fairly quickly.
Epic battles like… my nervous diarrhea and trying to sit through a long job interview
Nice
Love that motorcycle to Marilla, I have one
Yes!
Man I love a banshee but nothing beats the quadzilla!
It's the king!
Raise your hand if you thought the Banshee even stood a chance? I think not! I have been on both modes. Both fast and powerful. The Banshee feels faster because of weight.
You're exactly right!
Thats why fourstroke motors work so good on the bikes..its all about the traction and duration of hooking it up to the ground..the race was on a lose gravel road..the banshee makes more horsepower but its unstable and wasting it in wheelspin which sounds like a sliping clutch.. if you can get it to hook up it will tote the front tires the whole way
All good points Bruce!
There's nothing like the sound of that 2-stroke banshee though!
I've ridden a Quadzilla, but I raced a Banshee. The Quadzilla deserves every bit of its reputation. But, on the track, I can't tell you how many times I took the holeshot on the Banshee in the open class, even against Quadzillas. I just found the Banshee to be so much more evil on the track.
By the way, the twin sound was so unique, and hearing it brought back so many memories.
I would say for overall fun factor, the banshee is tops.
No , a quadzilla is hands down so much more fun...in my opinion...lol
I had to cut my front fenders off because the quadzilla would catch so much air that the front wheels came up and steering was gone.
Dang! But I don't like cutting fenders.
The clutch on the banshee sounds like its slipping but it doesnt look like it. Odd to say the least.
It's not.
@TheMapleDude1 I can tell. It wouldn't hang with a quadzilla if it was. I guess unless the zilla is slipping too. The powerband and delivery of the power sounds odd on the banshee. It sounds way too wound up with not enough output. It is a video tho and I get that. Also it seems like you only hear the banshee and never hear the zilla? I assume the banshee was mic'd up?
I have both of these machines right now. Both run good with some mods but I have to say I truly don’t know what ones faster
Watch the Rematch video.
Oh shit I see the maple dude building off of highway 10 this makes total sense now! Sweet!
Where you at?
@@TheMapleDude1 We have a bunch of Honda atc’s as well.
Being a two stroke mechanic..the banshee has a very close ratio transmission compared to the Suzuki..the 500 lays down alot more torque..it has a lower ratio to take advantage of it's longer powerband and..plus those tallerd tires help with the wheel spin..lower air pressure on the rear tires would improve the banshee in a drag race..
Thanks for the tips!
The banshee motor layout was based off the rd 350 motor of the 70s..if you keep it one it's power band and improve traction it could give the quadzilla a run..
Bothe motors make great power..but totally different power band ranges..the quadzilla has a lot of tourqe from low to mid..if you start in second or third with it
Great video. That road looks like no traction
Im a Banshee guy but hey, i love all these old Bikes. A 350 vs a 500 explains alot. Both awesome machines that will never be made again due to emissions crap sadly
Thanks for watching my guy.
There's no substitute for cubic inches!
Exactly!
No replacement for displacement. Good video 🤘
Thanks man
🤦♂️ that makes zero sense the banshee has an extra cylinder and more hp🤦♂️
@@tylerseabook9423 banshee is 350cc zilla is a 500cc. 🤔
@@tylerseabook9423lol the banchee is only 350cc with 2 cylinders. The quadzilla is 500cc with one cylinder. A stock banchee has like 35hp and a stock quadzilla has 50hp.
@@travispoulin252 wrong. The early model banshees were 48hp 🤦♂️
Im a suzuki guy 100% but i thought the banshee was going to be faster here being the fact its alot newer but looks like Yamaha did little to no updates on engine performance!
looks really fun but in my opinion just gotta practice more the sifting and staying on that 2 stroke power band
Will do. We were 4 stroke riders before this.
How do you keep the front end down? My 250 has an extended swing arm and won't come down until I top out or let off.
That's pretty impressive.
Banshee sounds like a Banshee!
Brap
I don't have to tell the town of Lynn, WI ... you did ...
Ya think??