Renault Scenic 2004 rear windows not working. Fault finding and repair.
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This car came to me with both rear windows not working, either from the door switches, or from the drivers door controls...
The owner brought me 2 regulators to replace, but is the regulators the problem?
Follow me on this video to find out what was the problem and how to resolve it...
How I do repair wires
• How do I repair damage...
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how the hell does a plug become so corroded inside the car?
it looked like it had been sitting in battery acid :-/
Welcome to the world of French cars!
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Indeed... water intrusion I guess...
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Yeah I watched another of Louis' videos recently, I think it was a C4 picasso with ABS fault? that had wires that seemed to be corroding from the inside out and in the late 90's I worked for a guy who bought and sold salvage cars as a sideline,
anyway the amount of Peugeot's that would be in the yard because of dash fires told me they were clearly doing something very wrong.
It must be difficult to get good quality wires in France? lol
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I found the video that I was talking about th-cam.com/video/Jh9Ctv-1WlU/w-d-xo.html
"Citroen C4 Picasso 2008 Engine ABS ESP EPB Gearbox faults... Fault finding and repair."
The only good thing to come out of France is wine and cheese ;)
You forgot Brigitte Bardot. Wine + cheese + Brigitte Bardot.......now, that would be a night to remember........
Just done this to my scenic2 following what you did. Rear windows now work. Thank you so much for your video
Great result!
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Top repair as always. Looked pretty neat afterwards. Well done. 👍
Thanks!
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Job well done, now I'm next. Thanks for sharing this useful info. I didn't open it up yet, but it is strange, since EPB is working but showing fault and right tail lamp isn't working. I guess it all goes thru there. It's a job for two hours at least I guess.
Way more than two hours if you want to do it right, and obviously how bad it is...
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Had a lot Renault cars in past would never buy another.Brilliant repair.
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And that is how it's done lady's and gentlemen. Great job 👌 👏 just subscribed
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Good going, Sherlock! Just finished fixing mine :-) Thanks a million
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That's great!
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Thank you for another great video!
Wiring diagram was a huge help to isolate the problem.
Indeed they helped...
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LM Auto Repairs
Hi There,
Would you be able to send me a coke if the electrical schematics for the rear windows as I’m currently trying to fix this problem too.
Massive help if you could!!
Thanks! You dont know how much you helped me!
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That’s why I love this community mate, although I never came across this problem, now it’s just like I have .... thx for sharing it 👍 P.s.great to have the links just got some flux 😃
Thanks Igor... and getting better... great stuff coming out very soon....😉
Stay tuned...
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Just Brough a 2008 model with non working rear windows. After watching you superb video, I think I can live without the rear windows opening 😂😂😂😂 but well done. Great video. Many thanks 😃 👍
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Just be careful...
inspect the plug... as ultimately, if the issue is the same as this, it will start to give you other issues...
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Outstanding diagnostics and repair. Thank you.
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Wow great find and repair!
Thanks!
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Awesome job again!!!
Thanks!
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Thank you.The left back window on my scenic II is also not working.Will mention this to repairman tomorrow.Btw,scenic II series start production is 2006 😃
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Deliveries of Scenic ll started from beginning of 2004, Grand Scenic a couple of months later.
Thanks mate, great video!
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GREAT FIX I`M SO GLAD GOT RID OF MY SCENIC LAST YEAR BEFORE THAT HAPPEND
A wise decision! lol
Thank you for watching Paul!
What car have u got now
Mercedeslhamiltonfan mk3 mondeo tdci auto triptronic
Excellent video
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Hi mate. Had two browns wrong as one was broken and thought that would match the other side but that’s Renaults for u why not have dif wires. Front windows still go opposite ways but with the multiplug unplugged makes no difference so just left those like that and rear ones are working fine now. Hi thanks for your video very handy. Know where to come when have more renault faults.
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Great that you sorted it out...
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Great video , Thanks.
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Great work
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Useful video 👍 Excellent 👍
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Good job,, I Have experienced this issue once before, but customer decided to cut the plug & do it himself only to find it was to much work!!
So my task was a nightmare, as renault for what ever reason change the wire colour on each side of the plug in most cases & use the same damn colour several times :(
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It is a few hours job indeed!
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Hi there,
thank's for this nice video again
regard from Belgium
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Do you know why the centre console between the front seats is not moving?
Hi I have the same car but yesterday only a rear window does not function with dedicated button on the drivers seat as well as with its rear door button. Yesterday, a left xenon bulb was changed, whilst the battery was removed. Any idea?
Thanks for sharing the repair . good fix, modern electrics are so flimsy . Well done!!
Thanks!
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My 2003 looks like that. A Scenic II.
PROBLEM: Water drain pipes in front below the windscreen area becomes clogged with leaves and other dirt, so water won't evacuate but finally reches a level where it enters into the car going under the floor mats until it reaches a main wiring harness connector on the floor under the drivers seat. That moisture in combination with electrical currents flowing creates oxidation that totally destroys cable connections/pins in the connector. Most often the bottom connector part that sits closest to the floor metal gets the most damage due to being closest to moisture, but stuck pins can also break off when the connector is taken apart. Those are often the pins that supply electrical currents while the car is running, thus the oxidation process is accelerated there.
PREVENTION: Preventing water from entering onto the car floor. The water evacuation pipes come out into the wheel arch shrouds that needs to be removed for a proper cleanup. OR it could be possible to use pressured air or water. If the water evacuation clogging is not attended to preventively, then a Scenic will sooner or later face "death" due to this issue.
TIME CONSUMING REPAIR: Too expensive for a workshop to repair in relation to used car market value so most such Renault vehicles who are otherwise great cars go to the breakers.
OWN "DO I YOURSELF" ACTION: I was able to resurrect most of my wiring it seems by bypassing damaged connections with new wiring, bypassing the connector.
I did NOT get rid of the connector and resolder ALL wires but only did FIVE wires bypassed on the outside that I found had dropped loose same as shown here.
Even the large red +12V cable had broken loose so the rear electrical handbrake would not release. That is now working again.
I still have some issues with rear door windows but this video got me on the track now to solving it.
I was able to repair one rear door window control lead so I got to know how they work. Signal going from the drivers door switch simply ground the signal when activated.
I will soon find out the complete logic. Probably two leads per window. One signals up or down, the other runs the motor when grounded.
PRAISE: LM Auto Repairs you are to be praised for your video showing that window control go through that connector.
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Thanks for the comment, and great that you are tackling yours...
Hope you get to the bottom of it, and have it all sorted!
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@@LMAutoRepairs Thanks, I finished it for now. Only issue left is left rear window where there is no life at all in the window motors. Controls on that door cannot open the window either. But I will look at that some later time. And the center console between front seats have a button to unlock so the console can be moved back/ forth. But there is not action when I press that button. The console remains in a fixed position. Any suggestions are welcome.
Like everything, you need to trace the wires and see what it is happening... you did already a great job, go the extra mile now...
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also rear side one window some times opens and sometimes not.. if its opens then it does not close until i switch off car and try after few mins .. what could be the possible cause.. ?
I had a problem with a rear window on my scenic 2, when I looked into it further somebody had removed the motor and arm holding the glass and relpaced it with a piece of wood!
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Well... at least you found one of the issues...
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How can i get the electric diagram? Thanks.
Merci beaucoup
Thank you!
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hi does anyone know is it in the same location in a right hand drive car? Under the passenger seat?
Nice job, but use heat shrinks next time! ;) They look 100x better on repair and they don't split when damp.
Next time...
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If you place small labels on the wires to connect, make sure NOT to use those "erasable" marker pens !
I found out that the heating gun when blowing hot air makes the text disappear !
Just as in a Mission Impossible agent video. You sit there with a bunch of wires with blank labels.
So I had to redo my marking of wires.. easy to mix up wires in that situation.
Interesting video, what tool did you use to change the instrument display? Thanks
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Renolink...
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I have an issue with the same renault do these wires from this pligngo the fuel pump becouse in my case i have no rear power windows and i have no power to the fuel pump only ground
Possibly... difficult to say without checking diagrams...
But a quick check and you will know...
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First view first like keep up louis
Thanks!
Hi where are u based and do u repair scenic park brake
DEEJAVOU FOR ME........GOOD ONE THOUGH...ALL U HAVE TO DO IS REMEMBER WHAT U DID LAST TIME...CONGRATS FOR REMEMBERING.......
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What is the main cause of this corrosion,it must be water,right?,so that also should be fixed so that area stay dry,great job as always,Thank You.
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Yes... water...
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Hi again after watching this video I noticed your wiring diagrams. Do you have a source for obtaining them.
Thanks
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Google, time, and a lot of patience!
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Hi do you no how to get window motors to work .without the module..is there away .thanks David
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Never checked that... but surely there is a way...
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Hey Leo How you get the right visu wiring diagram for the car
Google....😉
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Louis where do you get your schematics? You make very informative videos!
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Google will be your best friend.. 😉
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good job.
how did you find the place of every broken thread?
Patient! A lot of it! 😋
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good video can you help have a renault senic 2. 12v power relay inside the passenger fuse box still has a 12v supply all the time have locked the car and relay still has a 12v supply were does the relay get it supply from?
Which relay?
What is the problem you are having?
The top relay on the passenger side fuse box which controls the electric windows the problem is it is always energised and the current is slowly draining the battery when I disconnect the relay drain drops to .02ma@@LMAutoRepairs
Does that happens after the car locked and in sleep mode?
I closed the car doors and left standing for approx 15mins with multimeter connected can not lock car doors with meter connected due to the High current looking for a shunt resistor
Sir, l think you can help me, l have the same problem, only the rear windows doesnt work. Only one white wire came out from connector, but when l checked all the position from the otherside, l cant figured out where needs to go that white wire. Probably if you remember maybe in the middle have one white wire, maybe goes together in one hole?
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No... no chance I would remember that...
You need to perhaps check diagrams....
If there us corrosion on that plug, you just need to like here, get rid of it...
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Hello sir where u getting the wiring diagram for renault peaugot citron or any vehicle pls help me
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th-cam.com/video/fnm9m6YdAxI/w-d-xo.html
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So which side would the plug be? Passenger side seat or Driver side Seat. And is the car in the video left hand drive? Ta
You can see on which side the steering is within the first 10 seconds of the video...
The plug is on the same side of the steering...
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Great work. I need some help please. Do you know if the front windows are also connected via the R2 plug? I have a Megane 2005, which is very similar to your car. Three of my windows suddenly stopped working at the same time, only rare left was working. After some days, now suddenly front right started working again. So now two are not working, front left (driver) and rare right. I have checked the fuses, they are all good. Do you have any suggestion?
I don't know if the electrical system is that similar to the scenic or not...
Have you scanned the car?
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Thanks for the quick reply. What do you mean by scanning the car? Connecting with the computer port and check with software?
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Yes...
Looking at live data and actuators can also help tracking down the problem...
Thanks very much, this video is very helpfull. I have a 2005 Scenic 2 1.6 16v. Left rear windows does not work but I also get P0606, which relates to PCM. Can this also be caused by this corroded connector?
Probably not... but you never know...
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@@LMAutoRepairs Finally the car is fixed! Since you share a lot of repairs I thought I'd share this one with you. It turned out there were 3 electrical faults: 1. Multiple bad solder joints inside the PCM. (caused intermittent P0606 and P0638 and limp mode when engine was hot) 2. Damaged MAP-sensor (P0105) 3. Parasitic signals on 12V caused by bad spark plug. After resoldering PCM and replacing the MAP-sensor the car ran a lot better but still a lot of noise on 12V. At the garage they replaced timingbelt, waterpump and spark plugs. After that it was OK. Car has been to 2 different shops that couldn't find the problem and off the road for 6 months total. 🤣
Good you got it sorted!
Thank you for sharing!
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creat work
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ive just found mine has same problem, what would the cost be for sorting this roughly? please
Depends how bad it is...
But it is not a quick thing, it takes time...
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can we change driver side window control switch with the new one?? or we need to reset it? coz i have 2 Scenic car , one i going to scrap , so want to change the driver side window control switch. is it ok just to swap both of them togather?
Yes... should be ok with no reset or programming...
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Hard work
Indeed!
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Hello sir, at 4:21 you say you should have voltage. Is that only when you're operating the window switch, or at all times (when the ignition is on). Thanks very much for the video!
That is at all times if I recall correctly... as it is the power supply to the module/door...
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@@LMAutoRepairs thank you very much for such a speedy reply
Was it still wet in there? I would love to see what a dealership would charge for this job.
At the beginning I thought it may have been a coding issue with the replaced dash.
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No... completely dry...
I don't know... they would most likely would replace the entire loom...
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Hi there..i have the same problem with laguna 2...i cant find the problem with the rear windows..can you help me with this ?
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Check fuses etc...
Scan the car as well...
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Just a quick question ? Do I need to disconnect battery ? And are any of the wires connected to Air Bags ?
If you feel safer or if you don't have how to clear the codes, yes... disconnect the battery...
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is that a left hand drive car and if so wood it be still on the left hand side in a right hand side car
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I can't remember... lol
But I think is in the same place...
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Could you tell me where to get the wiring diagrams please. I have a window/ hand brake fault which I think is caused by this connector. Thanks
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You can find them in PDF format...
Just google it...😉
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@@LMAutoRepairs Thanks. Just done that and have come up trumps. Thanks for the videos, a great help
well done! I now have the same problem with my Scenic 2005 I need a wiring diagram of the rear windows can you help me?
Hello, i have same problem with my car, if had the R2 digram please send it to me !!!!
@@yousefamir5554 sorry, it was too much trouble for him to answer..
I have that same problem with a 2004 Megane II , all of a sudden the rear windows have stop working, locks work and everything else does, I have checked the fuses, even try another control from an equal car I have acces , and nothing.
Could it be the same wiring than in scenic?.. I'll take the seat out and all the carpet to see what it looks like.
There is a good chance that is the same problem indeed...
Check it, and go from there...
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@@LMAutoRepairs I just checked and made the same discovery, luckily it was only the main red cable the one it was corroded, all the others in that conector and in the black one next to it were all fine.
I just put new male- female conectors and it worked again.
Thank you so much for your help with this. Even when my car has 16 years and 195,000 km is in perfect condition, all works and is complete, have it since new and I still like it a lot.
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That's great!
Well done!
Hello, could you please advise us? (me and my father). The door lock on the driver's side broke down can be opened etc as soon as he founded it it cannot be opened only from inside the car so he's getting desperate would you please advise us where there may be a mistake or the instructional video would also please . Thanks for the early reply and sorry to bother you.
What exactly do you need?
If the lock broke down, you need to get it replaced...
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we bought a new door lock and I need advice on where the mistake might be lock when it's out of the car works - can be locked and unlocked once my father installs it in the car it doesn't work (the door can't be opened from the outside only from the inside so he already has nerves where there may be a mistake if he doesn't have to go for technical and emission control, he would have time to devote himself to the repair, but now he's driven to see if he can do it by that time (and if he will succeed at all).
Hi mate, where did you get those wiring diagrams from? Are they original Renault ? And if so where can I get original Renault diagrams? Thanks in advance!
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Yes... they are Renault originals...
th-cam.com/video/5Jl_poF35_A/w-d-xo.html
Myself or a fellow member, will be more than happy to help!
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Hi Mate, grate video. I have a problem with rare left door. it doesn't close. do you have some idea how i can find the fault ? by the way, I had exactly same problem with rare windows, i have repaired them the way you show in video, but i cant find the problem with the door. can you help me pls. thanks
Trace the wires... double check that you have not mixed wires...
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Does anybody know of a video showing how to get to the wiring? I've not been able to find one
Remove the seat and lift the carpet and plastics...
Straight forward...
my electronic brake is stuck. that is the problem?
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Due your checks...
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Can you send me a copy of the electrical window schematic please... can’t for the life of me find it online
Qual é a parte de Inglaterra que você se encontra ?
De que precisa?
do you changed the central housing or what? I did not understand !!!
Have you actually watched the entire video?
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I do not understand the English language that's the problem not something else !!
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Ah... lol... sorry...
The removed the rusty plug and connected the loom straight....
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thank you soo much i have problème that i dont understand english very well i speak only frensh soo its hard to understand evreything but i try i do my best i use google traduction lol now i understand i think that the cable module centralisé!!
Have to be very carefull because some colours do not match.
As I have explained... 😉
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I have megane II CC And my father has scenic II both have the same issue. I will never buy a french car again!!!
I immediately thought breaks in the flexible wires between the "B" posts and both back doors.......I got it wrong
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Yes you did...
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What caused that tho?
Water ingress...
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Please send me diagrams
Good old Renault's water lngress as usual rotten wires and terminals good diag gotta love the French cars
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Is that in USA ?
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No... UK
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Left steering wheel in UK
Ce phénomène est connu. Aussi frein de parking ne fonctionne pas
non ce una versione francese o italiana
It MAY help people IF you didn't JUMP stages. ie IF you showed people WHICH SEAT YOU TOOK OUT. NO ONE HAS A CLUE.
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If you didn't skip at minute 10:30 you could easily see which side I was working on...
I do miss stuff sometimes... like everyone...
But it not my fault that people does not watch the videos fully...
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1st BOOM
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Thanks Leon!
Now go and watch the video.... eheheheh