What Happened to Modern Feminism?
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I would like to see you dabate Monsieur Z on the Second american civil war?
I've decided to listen to your add your worth it God bless.
feminism was never for equality... if you are for equality, you are an egalitarian. feminism has only one point, supremacy since wave one!
Everyone who thinks something else didnt get it. But hey, im only an old grumpy monk on a mountain who preaches, so what do i know.
Feminism was not poorly designed. Feminism is doing exactly what it was meant to do.
You spoke as if women pay nothing for those state benefits. They pay all right just the state's there new daddy all that shit government hands out cost alot.
Coming from a functional two parent household is basically like being nobleman in modern society.
"The Order of Not Being a Bastard" doesn't sound very prestigious, but I'll take what I can get at this point.
I would never give away my stable, large family for anything.
Hell if you was middle class and was able to stay off economic shocks the past few years we've had and your parents still stay together he was one of the fortunate ones
Incorrect, our present ruling class is RIDDLED with people that were raised by degenerate parents.
@@wingy200 under rated comment hands down, well said
I have an elementary school aged son. Every time he asks me why his teacher does something arbitrary or why girls in his class get more attention when he’s struggling, I start fuming. I told him recently “girls told men to shut up and now there is no one to tell them it’s time to brush your teeth.” He sort of understands. I told him his teacher isn’t very good at her job, but she’s trying. I told him that he needs to do his best no matter what, but he can’t play the game girls play and try to please everyone. He’s starting to get it and I hope he makes it. Check back with me in 5 years.
This is why I won’t marry a working woman. Not because I want a woman who is ‘in her place’ or whatever, but because I refuse to trust the school system and need a wife who will homeschool our children with our values. I have two brothers and one has his kids in public school and the other homeschools. They are both much older than me so the kids are nearly adults now and the difference is glaringly obvious. The public school kids have no idea what they want to do and are obviously stunted. While the homeschool kids are well adjusted and one is in the civil air patrol and the other started nursing courses last month. It blows my mind how homeschooling and public schooling seems to have swapped places in that regard.
Good for you to coach him not to be a simp/pleaser. Very difficult times for boys and young men.
Good for you, my recommendation is thay if you can pull him out and homeschool at some point that be for the best, the more time you spend with him the more time he can actually learn how to be a man and understand the world around him.
@@shortwave737it really is and it's starting to become more pronounced, home schooling just removes the hassle and you can actually take time to teach them actual valuable lessons, maybe even get them interested in a career early on so they'll be ready to take on the world without wasting there 20s in college or some dead beat job.
Homeschool
Don’t be too blackpilled. My husband and I met on Bumble. But the reason it ended up in marriage is because we both wanted a monogamous relationship heading toward marriage. We were nice to each other but had to get past the normalized trend of treating dating partners like crap. We had to WANT to treat each other differently if we wanted a different outcome this time. I was nicer to him, softer with him and more vulnerable than I used to be with past men. He was honest with me and more polite than he used to be with past women. We showed up to our dates and moved forward without playing games.
These are crucial to a relationship being successful. Be open about wanting marriage and a family and be open about your expectations. You will weed out the losers and find your person.
It will be interesting to see how this affects the geopolitical situation for the west, and the world at large.
It already has. Women are not economically dependent on men anymore, leading to rampant hypergamy and a cratering in birth rates. In response, literally millions of foreigners are being imported every year, creating countless racial groups that will cause permanent ethnic tension in these societies for the rest of time, eventually leading to civil wars and balkanization
Actually has since the 1970s it just wasn't apparent My parents basically immigrated here in the 1980s me and my sister are second generation immigrant The reason why it wasn't apparent back in the '70s was a plugged in quite a bit of the population pool before it was anybody noticed but if you look at a birth rate chart you could see that it collapsed drastically during that time frame but we also imported people from Vietnam to people from Eastern Europe and Africa and the Caribbean which my family came from and also a big chunk of the population pool came from Mexico
I remember Tucker Carlson, before he was fired, was talking about the American troops in Afghanistan. Our gov't he said, had a feminist history course and degree program in Women's Studies in their main university. In that war the Afghanis were a traditional Patriarchy. They Taliban were using 70 year old Russian rifles, we had the most sophisticated army in the world. We lost.
Why? America has a feminist army with men still supporting feminism. I remember being glad we lost that war. I was wondering why I felt that way, going against my own culture. Why am I no longer a patriot? Now after this video, I understand why I feel this way. Our leaders betrayed us. I love my country, but I won't defend our civilization. Why? Milo Yinnopoulos said it years ago: *f* is cancer.
I have a theory that if this doesn't change, men and women are on track to become their own, unique societies. I'm talking centuries from now. I envision a society where gender roles have become more pronounced, but the sexes will be segregated to a degree. Men will take care of stuff like physical labor and defense while women take charge of raising children and education. I'm feeling like relationships will become almost non-existent and child-rearing will become something artificial or stiffly contracted with a willing partner. When men or women look at the other in this society, they won't see a girlfriend, boyfriend, mother or father. They will see a necessary cog in a machine that has different expectations and performs different roles. Of course, this is only a hypothetical that would only ever occur if nothing changed.
That COULD happen, but we have natural and artificial disasters to help stop that from happening
18 year old male here, I have 11 other male friends and only two are in relationships but only due to the women 'picking' them with one on the rocks. The rest of us have been called names, smeared, or discriminated by women throughout our lives so far and its really making it difficult to look to women as good when they are the ones constantly attacking us. Yet we still have a desire for a relationship with a woman and at the same time we dread it so much if that makes any sense. I don't know how many other young men feel the same too but talking to my new male roommates in college from different parts of the USA, its seems to be a common experience for the Gen Z male. I've been to high school in southern California and Tennessee (moved during pandemic), and the one thing I noticed among the women is they're pretty much in the same in sense of the culture around women, like praising each other or destroying each other through stupid drama, as well as all the flavors of feminism ideology. In the Tennessee high school, their are more 'trad religious' women than California but still a minority compared to the women who are either career focused, not wanting any kids in their entire lives, very alternative such as short hair and multi color dyed hair, or a form of hate for simply men existing. I think social media has made this mainstream 'culture' for young women prevalent across the country now with the more 'trad' women only existing due to being out in more rural parts and strong religious morals. I obviously don't like what the mainstream culture is for women and its certainly got me exploring more about Christianity not because of 'trad' women but to figuring out how does one fix all of this shit before were all ensued in total chaos at both an individual and collective level.
I'm in my late 20's. Sexual frustration is something you will have to live with. It's awful. and I see why so many men are driven mad by it. The only way to fix this specific problem with feminism is to show real "Toxic masculinity". Most men aren't ready though. So things will only get worse. Prepare for the societal collapse and focus on yourself. get a dog and a few male friends. You will find no love, loyalty, or companion ship from women in this system.
In other words, finding a good wife is a pipe dream.
@@chico9805 Get yourself a passport...
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and your world especially your comparison of CA and TN. As a 64 yo M, I feel great pain for the young men and women who seem destined to be alone. On useful observation from one online commenter was he screened women based on whether they used social media which is highly correlated with the dysfunctional behavior. He picked only non social media users to date and had good results finding a traditional partner. This will shrink the pool but it will be higher quality. Best of luck.
You and your 11 male friends will be living great lives, so don't let yourselves get depressed over this cultural mayhem. Get a gym crew habit established and focus on group skill learning sessions that create value for yourselves (like plumbing, painting, window cleaning, power washing etc...) Women hit their late twenties and suddenly value that kind of thing (traditional, physical strength and mental fortitude) a LOT. I'm now married to a great woman who is reconnecting with her christian roots and I have a daughter. I'm thirty five and didn't meet my wife till I had done those suggestions and reached age 28. Good luck, little brother!
im beyond happy that my mother and father are still married, raised me and my sister into capable human beings... women today feel more like men and men feel like women
side note: Myrone is the last person you might want to bring up as a role model for men, as that dude is laced with hypocrisy and his entire community is just "alpha male" wannabes who simp to the very women he shames on onlyfans
I see more and more videos from female male advocates popping up. It seems like the backlash is really starting to heat up.
What dose that mean exactly? I want to know more.
or it could be the algorithm is just recommending more of these videos to you
@@tanimation7289 Roma Army and The Dadvocate TH-cam channels.
Grifters, that’s all.
Keep in mind the Male rights movement was created by a Feminist, it is stilll gynocentric.
Rudyard is going for a "get banned from TH-cam without breaking any laws" any% speedrun at this point.
God...I hope not. I can't go back to school at this point and I'm not big enough yet to found a political foundation lmao...
@@WhatifAltHist if you do get banned, you'll want to be at a point in popularity where you ideologically martyr yourself lol
@DoccyStars Everyone remembers martyrs, but no sane person wants to be one. Better to pick your spot carefully and be a winner, whatever that looks like to you. ❤
worst comes to worst, I'm sure he could run a successful Patreon or something.
Yeah he should have alternatives set up for when that happens.
Modern Feminism ran out of monsters to slay and so now makes up monsters in order to stay relevant
No... They didn't run out. They just increased the amount of men that they could demonize
Or they became monsters themselves
Mission creep
An example of a real monster is the pay gap between women and men (women are paid on average about 22% less than men, for the same job), there are still problems of gender inequality that's why feminism is rightfully still relevant
@@Nonomarg rage bait so sweet I almost bite into it. We all know the numbers and research has disproved the wage gap almost half a decade ago at this point
"It was never about equality it's about power..."
- Gloria Steinem
Sadly but most likely true
They don't want equal rights, they want Jonny Sins with fat wallet
0 results in a search for that quote....
@@sdmcelroy If helps it's a paraphrase.
@@sdmcelroy If it helps, it's a paraphrase.
let me explain a little portion of what might happen.
Young men like me are aware of whats happening around us, and the bias that is surrounding us. We all know for a fact that men tend to work harder and collaborate better because they have the responsibility of doing so. This will enable them to get higher up through the different social ladders all while they will be carrying that bitterness against women in their hearts. And once enough of these men rise to power the tides will begin to turn.
This is scary but a probable consequence of this anti-men notion going around.
We can already see it happening in dating world, where men's mentality of being the providers is being changed.
This is going to be sad to watch.
Sad for who? 😂😂😂😂
If you ask me
I think it's all a plot by companies
Any man would know women spend money like they're brain-dead and they never think of consequences of spending
So they give her extra rights to seize husband money, young men tax money, give it to women and BOOM
You got your perfume business and gucci bag business booming
If you ask me, 20% of spenders are males below 24, and the other 79% are women in general, other 1% idk
@@RobertIsMusicFor all of us...
@@martneb not me tho, i would love to see this.
@@martneblol “for all of us” society is just readjusting from an unjust system back to normality
As pointed out, men have been putting aside their feelings to discharge their responsibilities for generations. This is one of the most important traits of which feminimism has taken advantage, essentially throughout its history. Many husbands and fathers have felt great fear of how these concepts may affect their families and loved ones, then were told that these feelings were selfish, patriarchal thoughts and would only hold their loved ones back. Men are generally used to holding back their feelings for the benefit of the group. So, too many men held their tongues, thereby implying consent for the very things they feared. Then these men were forced to watch as their fears were realized. Unhappy daughters and sons who are undervalued. Brothers paying child support and sisters who can't find lifelong companionship.
@@williamhoang4077kid I've been seeing in every reply and you called yourself a marxist at 19 but let me tell you, you don't sound like a marxist, if anything you just sound like a middle of the road libertarian. I'll give you some advice for life, forget whatever idealism you have and simply view the world as inherently flawed because it's never gonna be perfect, Marxism imposes itself upon society to try and shape it into its soviet man, feminism has done the same and turned it into the soviet woman, this movement isn't about equal rights and it never will be because any movement that has to denigrate mankind's nature in order to then drag us all with its "progress" weather we like it or not, is a movement that needs to die.
"You claim you are oppressed, you want democracy, we will give you ungrateful brats a chance to practice your precious democracy" -WWZ decimation,
"Fine, we will show you oppression"
10 years ago I said
"Hey if women want to work, let them, ill cook, clean and drink beer"
Now im thinking
*How stupid was I*
Not only do you realize women dont want a bloke like that
Im still paying for it with increased taxes and stupid feminist/"greeny"/eco "friendly" policies
@@thecoolnerdplaysvr5674
"Stop shooting the dead, if you dont want them coming back to life, start shooting the living, are you listening to me"
-some old movie I cannot for the life of me remember
More men are waking up and leaving femeles to the consequences of their actions. One good way is to pay as little tax to the state/stop subsidizing their freedoms, even better by moving overseas & finding their best life
I remember in history class when the teacher mentioned the soviets having women in the army, and all the girls cheered having NO idea that Stalins thinking was literally:
If it can hold a gun, shoot a gun and detonate a land mine, then send it to Stalingrad.
And 300 women in the 1077th anti air saved Stalingrad.
@@crhu319 aye, I don’t mean to diminish the sacrifice and bravery of those who fought, but what I do mean to do is to burst the conception that Stalin allowed women to fight for those they loved out of the respect; he was a butcher.
Nachthexen
@@crhu319No, men in figthers did. The women made fireworks.
cant we just say that the eastern front was an indiscriminate meat grinder?
I don’t know if this is related, but when I was young I was told ‘violence doesn’t solve anything’ I get the sentiment, but I always thought it wasn’t true, especially looking at history. If you beat your enemy, you’ve won, solved you’re issue. It’s a limitation on aggression, which never has positive effects, only if it’s re-directed to something useful
You just have to look in the actual world for the answer and the debunking of that BS. The State makes people behave in certain ways under the threat of violence (aka jail, or even death). That lie works to nulify men's nature, and empower female nature, leaving men powerless against females, except for those that manage to adapt and thrive in the new environment.
I'd say so. I heard that a lot growing up. It's a rotten thing to teach a child. Especially if they deal with bullies. It's a sentiment that utterly ignores male psychology and sets people up for suffering.
I was fortunate growing up in that my father was both an educated man, an independent thinker and a combat vet and one of the things that I learned from him is that while violence is very seldom *THE* answer, it is always *AN* answer and that you should always have the ability to utilize violence in your back pocket to back up your position should the need arise. As I grew older I learned that every single aspect of society is upheld by the threat of violence. Perhaps not on a surface level; typically it isn't the threat of violence that keeps us from stealing, raping and murdering (the lion's share of that job falls on internalized morality) but if you do commit a crime against another person, there are consequences and if you escalate things far enough, violence is always a potential consequence. We as a society have largely lost sight of that fact because we have outsourced most of our personal responsibility to the state and other corporate entities and because we were lied to as children about the role that violence actually plays in maintaining social order.
war doesn’t determine who’s right, only who is left.
@@bopeybef Whoever is left then writes history textbooks. I.e. whoever is left ends up being right.
"The most redpilled and misogynistic men were originally extremely romantic toward women" You have no idea how much I daydreamed about dancing with my childhood crush at our wedding, holding her in my arms... not so much anymore.
Brother, it hurts…..
Have sex with many women, and you'll laugh remmembering that time.
I agree, I used to be much more romantically inclined and relationship minded. While not all my relationships ended poorly, I've seen and felt enough damage that in my 40s I'd prefer not to engage anymore. The con's of a relationship with a woman outweigh the pro's. Better to focus on myself and my own interests.
@@Shawn-st2lx I've 30 and feel like you, lol. I even have no will to date even for just hook up.
I wouldnt go so blackpilled cause you won't get anything close without honestly trying to build it. That said those early romantic thoughts are generally delusional and some reality needs to slip in or you'll go mad haha
The issue with femmnism is that they dont talk about the things men go through that women dont. Like child suport and allimony
Uhh, have you taken a look at the name of the ideology? "FEMINISM"? Ring any bells?
That's because people don't get married anymore that's not much a problem
Whos stopping you from talking and sorting your own issues? Its not like we need more mass shooters. You red pill guys know how to use a gun but not take a hold of your emotions.
Wouldn’t that be more of a man problem for not doing anything to address It ?
Women cannot even conceive make suffering. It’s very unattractive.
As a philosophy teacher in high school. Explaining that its not true that "everybody has their own truth", was the main goal before i could even start with my course.
It took weeks and I used to say: is your statement true for everyone always? If yes, than that is a universal truth.
Some girls -always girls - simply kept saying that "that's your opinion".
🤔 food for thought
Men create with their minds.
Women create with their bodies. Most of them have absolutely no business in higher education.
It because those are Legit Witches, people just don't want to admit that Witchcraft is mostly psychological warfare...
Reply with every action has a vocal reaction
So dumb
"I think 2008 is the most important year in the 21st century."
YES! Looking back, give or take a year, that was when the decline turned into a freefall.
Who got elected that year? Mr. Peace and Reconciliation. Whom did he fill the government with?
@@khaccanhle1930 I used to think it had something to do with him. But he didn't invent social media, which was reaching critical mass around the time of his election. And he didn't cause the economic recession.
He is a symptom of a leftist reaction against the boomerang comeback
I also think 2016 was a major turning point to the west as a whole.
@@TowelsTales Because the idiots got the same access to the Internet.
Before then, it was just a niche hobby.
Take ukraine for example. All the men between the ages of 18 n 45 couldn't leave the country. While the women get to go to france, stockholm and can continue their hot summer break, meanwhile men were getting massacred. When a war happens we revert back to our traditional gender roles.
Andrew tate was repulsed that ukrainian women messaged him if they could stay at his mansion in romania meanwhile the men were dying lmao
It was actually 18 to 60 couldn't leave the country so even old guys who just barely making it have to fight
New York Times article last week about high percentage of Ukrainian women divorcing their husbands after relocating to Finland, UK, Europe, etc, while their husbands were still fighting!! The article was very supportive of the women choosing to "break free" of their "shackles"!
@@juniorjames7076 This is the liberalism you guys wanted. Enjoy
@@juniorjames7076 and they get away with it too
To be honest, looking up the writings of feminist writers such as Simone de Beauvoir has convinced me that the feminist movement hasn't really changed they're just more open about it now.
Yes, the irony is that Simone de Beauvoir had so much contempt towards femininity and motherhood.
@@SerbAtheist at the least the bitch was honest about it
Agreed, now they say the unspoken part out loud.
So true
That is correct. The movement has not changed
The section about how women use “relational warfare” genuinely helped me answer questions I have had about my upbringing and society as a whole since I was little. It’s like seeing with glasses for the first time. Thank you so much for that.
It starts so young. Little girls bond easily but always find a way to exclude one or more of the other girls in the cruelest ways.
When I was a kid, I never fully realized why my mom acted the way she acted sometimes. She still talks to me like I’m 12. And I’m not 12.
I saw a post on Reddit by a mother who said she introduced her daughter to feminist writings, but after her dad died she became an extremist and is constantly ranting about men to the point she’s worried if she can even have a relationship (even mentioning she made a tiktok in anger after a guy asked her to move so he could walk past her).The comments were full of “feminists” basically saying the daughter is right somehow.
Every trend seems to be leaning towards it getting worse. The pattern seems to be Young suggestible girls are conditioned into liberal feminism through media and education, it fails and they get burned, they become even radical anti-male feminists. Ex. Young women enter college, start being promiscuous due to hook up culture, end up getting burned over and over (partially because it’s a natural result of casual relationships, partially because women tend to be more attracted to men who display dark triad characteristics) then become jaded towards men in general. To make matters even worse all the corporations and institutions hire from these colleges, and though it’s usually men in the top positions they fill middle management and are actually responsible for the day to day effects on everyone’s lives.
nice straw man dude.
@@razefan350 ???
@@razefan350 😬 *Yikes.* Excuse me nazi bigot but it's strawPERSON, check your privilege. Very problematic, not a good look. Educate 👏yourself 👏and do 👏better 👏
The more women you have sex with, the less "wonderful" they get in your mind. The same happens with women that have sex with a lot of men. Is normal, you compare your ideals with reality, reality is more complex and harsh--and in many senses disappointing.
what's the dark triad?
Basically bored women are just a never ending sociatal atomic bomb.
The atomic bomb wishes it could cause that much dammage. Look at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, both cities were rebuilt and pretty much immediately, now compair that to the depopulation crisis Japan is facing as a result of the US exporting feminism.
@@death31313... Japanese women got birth control pills early before US had em, this let women choose. Unless you have a police state and collect these this simple tech has given women the veto on birthing dozen kids cuz hubbie wants it. In the east the women chose this, to respond to be bossed around by skipping most pregnancy, no Western influence needed, just the tech was enough. It's like cars let people easily move from extended family, suddenly 1950 it happened, no massive rethinking happened, tech just made cheap cars...... Oh well, the Mormons and Muslims will take over world, society weirdly works and grows best when women are unequal though at 45 post children the Muslims let them have jobs.... That's the future, Muslim, or Patriarchy Christian sorta like Africa has, equal West with welfare state will totally die out...
The United States is the new engine of population growth will be the Hispanics mainly Mexicans and then you'll have a leak of Africans coming and Indians as well
@@death31313globally the infants who are born are twice the number of the ppl who are dying.
@@elise9537 Good job shifting the goalposts, I wasn't talking about global birthrates. I fail to see how global birthrates will help keep Japanese society from collapsing. Thats like saying the 11.8 million people suffering from starvation in Ethiopia right now aren't actually suffering because in the USA we have such abundant food that obesity related illnesses is the number one health concern.
An example i saw in my job. I asked for 2 raises in a year. Got both. My female coworker has been in the same spot for 3 years and has never asked for a raise.. she will rudely bring up that i make more than her "because im a guy". But shes just too scared to ask for a raise and blames me/ men in general for any of her problems
My mom worked the same job for over 10 years was let go and a year later rehired and she asked for the same pay when I would have asked for duble if for nothing else than to counteract inflation and thats not even considering that Im now a more skilled employ do to my decade of expierience in this posision.
you should try to sleep with her to show dominance.
Only a small portion of the female population is competitive in the same way men are. Most of us are not. That is the reality. Men and women need to accept that the competition that women excel at involves only other women and skills that are more traditional (caring for others or organizing). The sexes each have their own hierarchy.
Have you ever wondered why that might be tho? Why are women more afraid to ask for things they deserve?
@@NormieNeko And that's all fine. People are different with different skill sets and different proclivities and that's great, that's what makes humanity flexible and able to deal with a wide range of situations. What's not fine is blaming others for one's own shortcomings the way the woman in OPs story is doing.
The bit at 29:00 where he says "feminism says you must learn to stop your sexism but you're sexist no matter what you do" I was raised as a feminist from a young boy and was harrassed over and over once I hit my 20s being called sexist for smiling at the wrong time the sky being blue or just randomly and I kept asking what was making me sexist I didn't hit women or attack them or say they couldn't do xy and z I didn't do a damn thing then my Feminist aunt said Everything is sexist and I realized Everything I worked for to help remove sexism was worthless I was just going to be eternally shamed by them so I said fuck it I'll be sexist and called her a dyke
Only way that story could have ended better is if you pimp slaped her.
I don’t think dyke goes under the sexist label 😂
😂 perfect ending
LOL
Lolol I hope that you write. Great, great little twist. And let me further validate your experience by saying "been there" or better yet "am there".
I’m polish. I remember during the communist times, my women friends thought anything western was something good and positive. Now, anything “western” is a fight against our tradition and history. My best women friends are now very traditional, and completely reject the modern feminist movement.
I’m sure other people have different experiences but the fact the west had completely failed to attract people from former communist societies is very revealing, and shows how deeply flawed their movements are.
That's too bad. I admired their sense of freedom then, but now it is just a dictatorship with different spectrum
siema
As someone born in the US with German heritage, I always wanted to go visit Germany. But with the sociopolitical state of Germany and the majority of Europe, screw the krauts, if any country is getting my tourism money right now its Poland.
I have some Polish Galician in me, and I must say: Deo Gratias!
I worry that Poland will become Ireland. So I hope you’re right!
@@dylangtechI think we have some some of the best women in the world. In Poland, we have a saying, which basically translates: “the polish man fights and sweats, the polish women protects the results of his honor”. It was true 1,000 years ago, and also today. I love my polish wife :)
"Toxic women look for things to be offended by, to increase their social status."
^^^This. 100%.
“Most human beings have an almost infinite capacity for taking things for granted. That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important lesson of all the lessons from history.” -Aldous Huxley
I'm reminded of another line from another dystopian novel: "That which is not prohibited is mandatory." That was from 1984. Dystopian stories are supposed to be cautionary tales, not goddamn playbooks.
My mother told me a story about what happened to her in the 1960s. She broke down on the side of the road, flat tire. She pulled out the spare and started messing with the jack when a car full of mechanics pulled up. One leaned out the window and said "Do you need help?" She replied "Yes, thank you!" and he says "Sorry, chivalry is dead." before driving away.
She remained a feminist after that but what I didn't know until much later in my life was just how much those words bothered her. I suspect they bothered her because he was correct.
That’s so harsh 😂. Bit petty as well
Gender wars..
Chivalry is dead. Women killed it.
Fix a tire, wind up in cuffs. Take care of a woman, end up broke and hated. Help a woman, get shamed as a simp. Fuck a woman, end up a slave to a woman that hates you.
Love a woman, end up broke or in jail.
The experiences of my life have made me more afraid to look down the barrel of a woman's finger than the barrel of a gun.
Creepy, creepy people. Dangerous AF.
@@ZakSword_TxSnahh.
You see it’s petty to expect to be equal and treated as such when in reality you want special treatment.
Thats what petty.
What's frustrating about the current state of feminism is that inevitably, it will get backlash. And that pushback could lead to, ironically, the very oppression they said they were fighting.
The world is about to learn the single scariest sentence for any who fight with and abuse power through idenity politics. "Then let me be evil."
And this is the perenial problem of humanity, every movement, every ideology becomes corrupted and they go too far to the point of using their own arbitrary values to inflict the same damage of those they oppose. Feminism and woke in general is totalitarian, its hipocrisy is baffling, you cannot criticize it or you will get cancelled or banned.
Morality in general, especially justice, is just to abuse it so you can be immoral yourself. Maybe people are all evil, because they cant wait to commit crimes using morality as an excuse to do it.
yup and young men very much don't have a reason to be "decent" (whatever that even means nowadays) and honestly I think most young men would gladly oppress young women because the vast majority have either been screwed over directly or had family and friends they respect screwed over by it, men don't complain too much but men also never forget how they're treated
This 110%, if you treat group X like they're evil just for existing pushback is virtually guaranteed.
Personally, I believe feminists are subconsciously driving civilization towards this outcome. On a rational, individual level they may well understand this is undesirable for them, but much like certain fantasies which I will not specify, evolutionary drives often supercede rational desires where women are concerned. When you think about it, the primary downside of modernity, evolutionarily speaking, is the massive decrease in selection pressures, primarily for men. Human evolution has been effectively halted by modernity, but feminism is well on its way to kickstarting natural selection in our species once again, on a massive scale.
Consider that feminism emerged in the Victorian period, which produced some of the most high-maintenance, effeminate men to ever walk this planet. Not all of them by a long shot, but certainly greater numbers than ever existed in recent history, and mainly in the upper classes, where the movement began. Masculinity was not completely gone then but its been in steep decline ever since, arguably thanks to the many social and technological advances that have only accelerated since then. This ease of life created the very opportunities for women to complain about things that would have been luxuries for women in any other time period, like automated housework.
I suspect feminism is ultimately fueled by a deep and inscrutable biological urge to return society to the state of nature. I don't believe women can ever be satisfied by the superficial demands of feminism, which is why the objective seems to keep changing and evolving no matter how much they are given. I believe the collapse of modern society is the ultimate goal, driven by biological necessity, to restore the natural order of evolutionary forces. As most of us can already tell, this is the inevitable direction we are heading towards, after all.
That's why men like Andrew Tate comes in to fill in the gap of the inevitable backlash against woke feminism.
The part about the most "Redpilled" guys being former romantics is so true. A lot of guys start off viewing all women as gentle and beautiful creatures and when they realize the hard way that women can be every bit as terrible as men; it really screws with their heads.
The thing is that most men like (or at least want to like) women. Even though women will often accuse men of not being romantic; that's quite frankly not true. There's a reason why so many songs, movies, and poems about love and romance are written by men. Most guys will admit the little sweet moments like squeezing a girl's hand and having her squeeze it back or her resting her head on shoulder can make you feel almost as good about yourself as sex can. Maybe not quite as much, but those moments are often a little easier to come by.
My biggest problem problem with Feminism and the attitudes of many modern women is that they don't seem to understand that actions have consequences and sometimes you have to pick between two mutually exclusive things. For example, I have read articles written by women about upper middle class and wealthy career women who are angry that there aren't enough men who make as much money as they do while at the same time complaining that not enough women are in their positions. So they want women to earn more than men, but at the same time mad at men for not earning more money than they do. I see women raging that there aren't more women in STEM or other careers dominated by men throw absolute fits when asked why they don't try to enter those careers. I also see women who will date the biggest pieces of shit because they're pieces of shit; not even in a "I can change him" way, but "Sociopaths do it the best" way, but then rant about all men need to do better and take their anger out on the type of guys they would never date or sleep with to act better and feel like they're to blame. Or women who will talk openly and graphically about sex using language usually found in, ahem, "corn" to describe sex, but who will clutch their pearls if the word "boner" is utter in their presence. I remember on Tumblr seeing young women take rather explicit nudes of themselves with captions like "Don't sexualize my vagina". Don't sexualize your sex organs?
Hey, I believe in freedom and I believe in individuality. Have as much or as little sex as you like with whomever you want as often as you want. As long as you aren't hurting anyone; it's nobody's business. Try for any career you want and you should be allowed to succeed or fail according to your ability. And even only a small percentage of women might be suitable for a certain job; you might be part of that small percentage.
But understand cause and effect. If you earn more than most men either be willing to date a man who earns less or be willing to accept you might not find a man who fits your criteria. If you want to date guys who spend their entire lives in and out of prison for violent crimes; understand that you or people you care about might get to experience some of that violence. Understand that telling guys who don't beat or rape women not to beat or rape women is not going to stop women from being beaten or raped. Understand that if you ignore nice guys (actual nice guys, not door mats or "Supreme Gentlemen" types) and sleep with douchebags; you take away the incentives for being a nice guy and give an active incentive for being a douchebag. Understand that if you go around explicitly talking about sex; some people might talk about sex explicitly in your presence. Understand that if you want to women to be in STEM fields; women are going to have to enter STEM fields. And, yes, that picture of you naked with your legs spread and your labia parted is meant to be sexual and you're gaslighting everyone.
Lovely comment sir!
I'm a former romantic. I don't want to hate women. Not at all. I just don't want them to continuously give me reasons to be so disappointed in them.
F*ck it, I'll just go be celibate.
Put that energy to better use.
The modern world is disgusting, and I refuse to engage with it for the most part. It has been disgusting to me ever since I was a child in the post-communist Romania of the 1990's.
It is still disgusting, over 20 years later. I suppose it will continue to be disgusting at least until I am in my 60's.
Until the course can be corrected.
Well said
Just about the most insightful comment I’ve ever read in a comments section, thank you for sharing your mind with us
Damn man, you dropped this 👑
It's not just feminism. It *pays* a lot when you toxify your movement and treat it as a Tribe rather than an idea or...you know...a Movement.
Take merchandise profiting for example.
Tribes r cool
Feminism becoming a mongol tribe🗿
@@Reichsland_Elsass-Lothringen which could never actually do anything only exist through bloated bureaucracy and welfare state completely depending on men for literally everything with nothing in return and so unstable there's no way it doesn't collapse
@AzureWolf168 ty! Real power is rarely given...ya gotta work for it
Thatswhy we need to take their vote. Women have an affinity to be pro women above all Else. Because of their ego and so on. The feminist World view just tastes so good for the female mind. So im not sure that even with proper education in history that women will become based again.
Really unsure. So we might aswell become Sure again by simply taking their right to vote.
But im open minded about solutions.
The example about the woman who wanted to be treated like a man and then got mad literally happened with me and my previous girlfriend where she was asking for honesty about how to improve our relationship and then immediately couldn’t take it
There are problems with first wave feminism that a lot of people forget:
- it was upper class women a lot of the time.
- they have committed arson and bombings (specifically in Britain). No one died or was injured by what I could find, but that is still terrorism.
- they shamed men into going into fighting in WW1, including minors.
It hasn't been exactly the most upstanding movement in retrospect.
They've always hated men. They just have gotten arrogant enough now that they no longer see necessary to hide under a facade, instead taking the mask off.
They also cheated on their husbands by sleeping with politicians to get support.
People always forget that the terrorist attacks' in the first wave are only excused because they accomplished their goals. Tho ironically Id say 3rd/4th wave has caused more lives lost in the social space and good men have died for it sadly. Alec Holowka being falsely accused by Zoey Quinn and Zoe receiving absolutely no backlash for his suicide and his own sister sided with zoe blacked/red pilled a bunch of men into embracing their own gender enlightenment. Jonny dept, ONLY managed to mildly win his case because he is famous, the thousands of men going through it tho are sent to the dogs.
Also first wave feminists they pretty much promoted one sided tradionalism and despite them hating male chauvinists, any men who actually was outside a typical old school man of that time, they themselves ostracized them. A.K.A the white feather movement. Feminists tho are to cowardly to drop the equality bs and just be honest about that movement being only a woman advocacy group, and because of this ploy their man hating extremism has now contaminated ALL of the left, thus alienating most of the down to earth liberal guys who just believed in idealism for people in society, but also still had a degree of Self respect. Those men are politically homeless.
Any men who think the first wave is "perfectly fine" are most likely far left themselves and are partially why it even got to this point.
Funny thing is modern day feminists are to dumb and incompetent to see they have essentially built a perfect circumstance for men to have a similar uprising/ male revolution.
One that many good women are going to just have to deal with it. We had many chances to have this be talked through into a less unstable revolution ,but now that's not happening.
Despite naive people in these vids trying to bring meaningless pacification and Gender neutral takes that do nothing for reality, men and women are most certainly political enemy's at this moment. This is a Gender war, its about time men start acting like it's a war and play for keeps. Part of this is our own fault for never embracing the same gender collectivist mind state that women are in passively. Outside of race, politics, women naturally just serve their gender collective above anything else.
If men truly want this to be over, men gotta learn to drop alot of the labels and divisive identities that keep us from joining forces, or get crushed and dominated.
They didn't want to get drafted but wanted to vote aparently.
@@keonkla It's happening mate. Mgtow is growing. The Red Pill even more so. Retribution is coming, it will be one hell of an awakening to these females.
I dated a girl for 4 years, from the time we were 17/18 to when we were 21/22. Her thoughts on feminism were slowly becoming stronger throughout our relationship ( I attribute it to the fact that we were both in college and making new friends and stuff). Towards the end, it generally seemed like she actually hated me, not because I was a bad boyfriend, but becuase I was a white man. She would say things like “I just hate white men” all the time ( I’m a white man) 😭😭. She’s a smart girl and I think her mindset will change eventually, but it was crazy to see how quick her philosophy on things changed, and how it affected our relationship.
(To clarify, we are broken up. I have no resentment towards her, we both chose to do our own thing. I wasn’t perfect in the relationship and she wasn’t either. Keep your head up gents.)
oh noooo, so your gf's brain wasn't your property? that's sad man, are you going to cry for the lost "Western values" ala Jordan Peterson?
@@user-qn3gy4bv8u Losing the likely last good boyfriend she ever going to have will push her to either realize she was wrong or start to actually hate him from leaving.
Clearly you where too romantic, if I where you I would despite being a hopeless romantic get snapped out of it and start to use all my manipulative skill to get her to adopt my philosophy of love and kidness. (Philosophy BTW means friends wisdom.)
This is very common among western girls now. gotta ignore them
dont BS yourself into thinking she was smart, her actions/words say otherwise. you were being sh it tested, and the sooner you realize everything they do is a s test, the better off you will be. you should have dumped her on the spot, thats what i would have done, and have done it more times than i can count.
I was a housewife / parent for many years. I loved it, but I did get bored. However when I was in my twenties I didn't even know people were allowed to homeschool their children. I just thought that either kids went to school or you went to jail. I wish I would have known. I would have prefered to teach my kids. My daughter and daughter in law are homeschooling my grandkids.
All of the women I know who actively enjoy being housewives all have one thing in common. They're all part of religions which form larger communities they can gather around. Being a housewife with no external community you have a personal relationship with just sounds awful.
Your part of relation warfare and violence of women is extremely precise. I have witnessed it in all offices and work environments in which more than 5 women were present. Men are certainly capable of higher social cohesion because certain events and incidents are not taken personally whereas with women is mostly the opposite.
They say a group of women is fine.... until they get bored.... and then they start to gossip n bitch
Women don't forgive. Even if they are the aggressors and you don't take their sh**, they will never ever forgive you and always treat you poorly from that point on. Men forgive and forget in the workplace.
Creating a functional nuclear family and raising a number of good kids is like earning a Silver Star in today's society. It takes an incredible act of bravery.
Nuclear family and functional are two contradictory words
@@blah55044 The nuclear family has worked for over a millenium. But sure, today's skyrocketing divorce, depression and mental illness rates are obviously what's best for kids!
@@blah55044sounds like a you problem
and who's giving these medals? 12 year old Andrew Tate fans? Grow up, reality doesn't boil down to this simplistic crap this and a million other channels mindlessly repeat
a dont know of a single one?
I thought your video on America and the French Revolution was terrific, but this is even better. I agree that a brutal reaction against Feminism is coming. I cannot see how this can be avoided since women who have accepted the Feminist ideology cannot self-correct. They appear to be on a suicidal mission.
One correction. The housewives of the 1950s were much happier than today's working woman. Two big studies were conducted on this at the time--one in the famous Levitown, NJ suburb. They discovered housewives to be very active with their children, community organizations, and with other women. They also discovered that housewives used their educations (via reading groups, study, clubs, etc. ) far more than working women. As a group, they were the most satisfied demographic. It took the kook, Betty Friedan, and her completely unsubstantiated claims in "The Feminine Mystique" to begin spreading the notion of discontent. Friedan and Kate Millet got their idea of female victimhood from Herbert Marcuse. It is worth noting that Friedan's ex-husband said they lived in a virtual mansion on the Hudson River where she was free to write all day since he hired maids and a nanny.
Perhaps the people with the prior knowledge of this (us) would be able to mitigate some of the negative consequences. Sure, we don't want a delusional leftist hellscape, but we don't want a totalitarian right tyranny either.
it almost like they "want ot be put to their place" butt no no women wouldnt be like this
If men were smart and organized together in a mostly unified group, they would do well to organize a man strike. Full, walk off the job, do nothing for any woman, walk out of the house, take our sons with us.... On Strike, Then, send our demands which would be all land in the US West of the Mississippi, 50 percent of the the shared assets, and 50 percent share of all government assets. Also, any attempt to reach out internationally to men for help will be considered an act of war., since we are no longer needed.
The reason this is the smart move, is we won't have to fight ourselves this way. We could show the women of the world that Feminism is doomed to failure, and we could hold all the cards in negotiating a new social contract so to speak, especially because we would immediately import more traditional women from abroad, since we never made the claim to not need women.
Day one: The Power Grid on the East coast goes down as a backdrop of military trucks evacuating all men in an orderly systematic way.
@@alexchainger Well I think that any ideological movement that is delusional, antisocial, and tyrannical warrants some kind of backlash. Regardless of sex, people generally don't like groups that are unyielding and obnoxious, and groups that are antisocial generally don't get far when they can't cooperate with others that differ from them.
@@attackofzach7 True, it's highly unlikely a far right movement filled with young angry men will ever happen, considering that's literally just male feminism lol.
Matriarchal societies have existed like the Navajo and Inuit, but they're different than most people imagine. They're much smaller, the matriarch retains power through personal relationships so it's limited by Dunbar's number, and only exist in remote, harsh places like the arctic or desert where the environment itself defends against invasion. Surprisingly, young women have a lot less freedom in matriarchal societies. They're basically ruled by their grandmother or Great Aunt and arranged married or at least betrothed (until their fiance can complete construction of their home) almost immediately upon hitting puberty around age 14.
Most "matriarchal" societies are de-facto run by men. Usually in matriarchal societies, men tend to be more busy with hunting and warfare (seems like matriarchal societies engage in it more often) so they delegate internal affairs of the group to women. But in most of the cases of the so called matriarchal societies, men have the final say.
Mattiarchal societies never last. NEVER.
From someone that reads a lot of history the two examples you gave are basically unknown, I'm not saying that to be rude but what we know are roman empire, greeks, persians, vikings, mongols, europeans not a single empire state or even town that made a mark on history was a matriarchy
“It’s extremely common that the most red pilled, misogynistic guys were originally incredibly romantic about women”. Not even 5 minutes in and whatifalthist is spitting facts. Described what I went through with women perfectly. I’m thankful now for my current relationship because it brought me back from the brink
@jcrunk I'm not at all a hater of women, they're the other half of our species FFS lol... and many of them I know are awesome people. However, this video is spitting facts about something called the "mean avg".... yes there are exceptions to the mean avg and yes the top tier % of women are more logical thinkers and don't get trapped into the modern leftoid/feminist malaise and NO like the video states we don't want to go back to the 1950s...
But something has to balance out here. If the 50s were say like 80/20 maculine/feminine dominance in society... then the 70s-00s where we were more normal in gender roles but wiggle room for women to also have careers and take other paths were 60/40-50/50... we're now 80/20 toxic femine/masculine and it's breaking things apart and this vid is anything but misognyistic because it's asking for a healthy re-balance so we DONT go back to a toxic masculine world and have women's rights stripped.
Because if this doesn't naturally balance back out to something sane and feasible that's what's going to happen and btw to any self hating feminist reading this-- I'm in a healthy relationship with a woman who has a career and she agrees 100% with this video and what I'm posting now as a free thinker so kindly fuck off.
A rebalance that would be feasible for the gender dynamics is not stripping womens rights away, but stripping away ALL preferential treatment as displayed in the video and not having to exist in a reality of walking on egg shells for shaming and petulant emotions. This would go for workplace and elsewhere.
A woman that can work and compete fairly in this environment keeps her place obviously, ones that cannot well back to a more traditional gender role.
This would be equality and if we didn't react or tolerate the attempts and shaming and emotional blows up, they'd take themselves out of the equation with their behaviors.... except for the ones who do not.
It's just that simple.
@AzureWolf168 right a modern "rebalance".
It starts tho with equality meaning equality-- 0 preferential treatment or excess protections from regular workplace and social dynamics including not able to clean a man in divorce.
Then ignoring and counter shaming the emotional hissy fit in establishing this.
This is completely fair and realistic btw lol its way better than a far right insano trip down stripping away rights.
@AzureWolf168 if they're going to explode against being treated equal they expose themselves and take themselves out of employment and favor in society.
There's a growing % of modern women even with good careers and etc that are really tired of this feminist garbage and hyper feminized society and they're going to help balance this out against the malaise.
Dating apps 6 years ago was all chest thump girl boss etc this, when I got back on and met my current gal this past year there was a lot less of that and more things stating seeking a masculine energy to their feminine energy and moderate politics and not NPC and positive traits.
Still was a ton of vomit inducing of course LOL.... not rosey glasses here.
@AzureWolf168 right cuz it will...
Say a right wing comes in and strips em of rights, eventually that collapses and this negative stuff now will make a resurgence on steroids and then repeat the cycle lol
I just a happy healthy society
The sexual revolution and it's consequences have been disastrous for mankind...
ypu win the Comment section Mr. Kascinzki
Rest in peace Uncle Ted
You guys do all this raping, porning, abuse, incest, genocide. What do you expect ? Once women are free to choose no way theyd choose abusers.
Things are better than they used to be.
@@Donner906 obviously. and yet these cry babies act like its manly to be entitled to everything without doing anything. they refuse to see that outside of their house the guys who do well and are in relationships are not what their gurus tell them they should be. most great guys look average but its what they do with themselves that matters. I know first hand that if you are average looking and have the average brain making the best of it and constantly working on what and who you are it adds up in the end.
I’m a simple man. I see a new Whatifalthist video, I click on it, and I watch it.
Facts, same
Hell, I wanna hear an hour long dissertation on the dangers of conference realignment in college football 😂
@@greggoden4666 personally i'd like to see another bizarre alt history, like what if the ancient egyptians still maintained a cultural presence today and the modern arabic speaking Egypt never existed and where a departure point could have been to ensure this, i wonder what point in history he would choose and seeing what a modernized egypt with a similar culture to ancient egypt with their necrocratic government and unique belief systems would look like.
Disagree, I watch less and less of what he puts out these days. I literally only clicked to comment and thumbs down.
I'm not here for political activism and outrage
@@gilligan87 As much as I appreciate his work I really hope he bites the bullet and gives us something AH related.
Please drop the "modern" prefix in front of feminism, the 1st stage of cancer, is still cancer, and if you didn't let it progress to the 1st stage and beyond, *NONE* of the past 200 years would've had to happen!
Truth. Like a car burning up in flames, it gets bigger and bigger.
Once you understand that f’inism is about female advocacy instead of female equality, there is no discrepancy in f’inism behavior. If you are only concerned with equality when females are being shortchanged unequally, you are only concerned when YOU are unequal. That’s not advocation of equality… that’s hiding behind equality to get want you want… advocacy.
Once you get this, you understand why women don’t think they should pay for the first date, could not care less that their college enrollments are so much greater than males and so many statistics that seem unequally towards men. F’inism doesn’t care because no woman is being impinged by these. Equality is not important.
Ehh no. Women didn’t do this. Women are like big children. They don’t do things like this on their own as a group. Our Western women were egged into feminism by a foreign cabal of powerful men. Why would female empowerment and female education be desired by a small international cabal of men? They are Loxist (hate whites) and creating feminsists and educating women decreases the birthrate. Teaching girls to look forward to trad female roles like mother and not sending them to school for two to three decades tends to lead to more kids.
You're right and it's really sad. It technically wasn't about advocacy until very recently. Even in high school (four years ago for me) the dictionary definition was for equal rights. I keep track of this discourse proffesionally and I only started to hear the female advocacy definition in the last few months.
@@WhatifAltHistIt's always been about advocacy. You think any of the first wavers were "fighting" for conscription?
@@lordfarquaad8601 Maybe irl, but that was the front. It's sad that they don't even feel the need for that anymore
@@WhatifAltHist you think it switched. I will have to look again cause I’ve always seen it as advocacy. And honestly, look over at a couple of middle eastern countries… maybe they could use some female advocacy?
But the question is with movements and taxes alike, when do you stop? When have you accomplished your goals?
Competition between men is like a gladitor match. Competition between women is like a CIA operation.
The end result is the same. If the egoists win, you have a dictatorship that will eventually drain society.
If the intellectuals win, civilization continues.
Fuck this is perfect
This is perfect
This video reminds me of my grandfather's final words to me, "you have to look after your grandmother for me, she lives in the world not as it is, but as she wishes it were".
You know what. Same is true of my grandmother. She nags to grandfather whenever something isnt as she wishes it be, and when grandfather is in the highlands caring for his ancestral home where his disabled sister lives she nags to me. Clearly no awareness how to get men to do what you want while also making them happy, asking assertively without nagging.
My mother and sister are the same way . They view things in terms of their ideals not with the way things actually are. I’m so glad I do not see things like they do lol
I disagree with you and others who responded. What is wrong with having some hope for what is going on around me? I'm a Christian woman and I know that the world is full of evil but I also know that there are good people as well. Is that a bad thing? I respect men, unlike a lot of femenistas as I call them. Or Femtards!
There are women who do not want to hurt men or who are also not silly and pointless in their process of thoughts. I am not the same as a man and I know that! I understand that and I feel bad for women who don't know it. They think they can overcome something they were never meant to be. I can't be aggressive like men, I can't take a stand the same way, and I cant' do a lot of things emotionally that men can! I know that!
Just like men cant' do what women can do emotionally as well, it's nice to have a balance which is what God intended when he made us! Men and women aren't the same for a reason but in God's eyes they are equal. In Galations 3 it says that it doesn't matter if you are free or bond man or woman that Jesus came for us all to get saved. So the fact is if someone says in the Bible it says that all women must submit to all men. Or that we are all super evil whores out to twist you up into sin don't buy it!
There are men out there just like there are women out there who don't have a good understanding of the way the world truly is. Both are better together than seperate. This is the truth of the matter we both see it dif than each other. It doesn't make it bad for eithe rof us.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Not all women nag, you know that right? Just becuas eyou know some who do doeswn't mean we all do. Just as not all men are 100% the same women aren't all 100% the same. I think from a Man's pov you don't get what she's thinking. That isn't a bad thing it's just how we're wired seperately. I don't know if she is an unahppy woman maybe that is why she nags? I don't know her so I cant' say for sure.
@@brianmeen2158 Wow you must have some really unhappy women in your life. Not all of us are that way. I treat men with respect and I hope that men will respect me equally. My parents taught me that they loved and respected each other. No one was better than the ohter. Of course their marraige wasn't perfect but they taught me an important lesson. So that being said it sounds like your sister and mother are lacking understanding and respect for others and their beliefs.
I've had two different women walk out on the family and neither of them ever treated me very well. Closest thing to mother figures I ever had were abusive. I've spent most of my life trying to STOP hating women. They can make it pretty hard, but its doable. Biggest thing is to realize we're all basically mad about the same stuff (normal standard of living becoming unattainable, lack of social mobility, ever shrinking chances of retiring successfully, etc etc).
As a woman, I can see how it might be easy to dislike women in today's age, however we are not all the women in your life that abused you. This is the first time in human history that women have been given the opprotunity to seek out their own endeavors, live financially free, have protection against the entrapment of unplanned pregnancy and live in a society that accepts us and our sexuality. For all of human history before this, women have never had this much freedom, and so it's a given that many women will use this to their advantage and manipulate/abuse men, as men have done for centuries past.
I can only ask that you give women a little bit of grace and understanding. No giant cultural shift occurs in a vacuum without any bumpy rides, and we will never go back to the way things once were, so we are at the start of a whole new future for the gender dynamic. Hopefully the pendulum will end up falling somewhere within a calm equilibrium some time in our lives. I have no hate towards men and love them very much. We need each other and have to work together for the sake of our futures. I wish you luck and wealth in your future endeavors 🙏
@@tisbutascratch2045 Sorry, the last time I fell for a heartfelt speech she stole and totaled my truck a week later, leaving me without transportation for 8 months in a rural area where you need to drive 30 miles to buy groceries. A male would go to prison, she got to plead down to a ticket and skipped the state without paying anything off of the lawsuit.
I don't think yall realize yall can do just about anything you want and cry your way out of it, nor how utterly terrifying it is to be a guy and realize if you try to do anything to stop it you are the one going to jail.
@@tisbutascratch2045 lol did you just admit about women abusing men? Do you even realize that it's a bad thing? Sorry, men don't agree with that. And then you start: "we need to work together". Yeah, men do all the work and women just abuse them? Very cool. And sincere.
"women will... manipulate/abuse men, as men have done for centuries past". Bullshit. Before giving any deceitful justification like that, at least try to prove it first.
@@nonyabeeznuss304just don’t pay attention to what they say, at the end of the day it’s only words, and it’s very easy to say things you don’t mean
Every female rolemodel beside books and anime has been a disappointment to me
Pretty timely, since Barbie just sent the entire culture back to 2014 tumblr feminism.
I can't believe people see that movie as harmless or fun since one of the first things it does is show a scene where little girls are destroying their baby dolls.
@@theproplady The company behind Barbie went on an ego trip a while back and convinced themselves that Barbie was the first woman like toy for little girls. Now they are convinced they liberated little girls from baby dolls.
@glorioustigereye to be fair the movie also poked fun at barbie basically sexualizing and stereotyping women. Not exactly the feminist liberator.
The movie if anything is about femnisms collapse
I liked the movie.
Feminism reached its logical conclusion
Most position of power are not hold by women. Most men would fire you if you give you the wheres your Bugatti attitude. Its men who want you with your head down.
Ironic since social justice comes from Marxist thinking, and Marxism predicted the self demise of capitalism in its late stages
Meanwhile, capitalism is running just fine, while Marxism's cultural offshoot child, feminism, is already imploding faster than the Soviet Union did.
I'd say so. I don't see how feminism can go any further. Social justice has evolved to the point where gender isn't real anymore anyways, so it's kind of invalidated itself.
The only way you could possibly go further with feminism is if you actually killed all men and invented artificial wombs to grow female clones.
Give women absolute freedom and they organize themselves into harems for the top 1% men.
Which is?
One problem (among many) with feminism: I suspect many people who were young impressionable children in the '70s or '80s decided they would crusade against discrimination against women, and found that by the time they were adults there was nothing left to fight because equality had pretty much been achieved. Instead of nobly fighting against a terrible injustice, they were left over-reacting to imaginary discrimination, much like an over-sensitive immune sysmtem stimulated by an allergen for the first time. A similar process happened with racism, homophobia, etc.
@AzureWolf168we need more racists in the west
They slew the dragon and when there were no more enemies left to conquer, they made new ones
It basically rally minorties against majority aka democracy, thus perpetuating oligarchic domination
@AzureWolf168*there's less racist people in the West
And sometimes found themselves in mid to high paying position that relied on the discrimination narrative to continue. If they would publicly change their mind about it they would risk the incoming they crusaded for.
I have recently been binge watching this channel and love the content. I didn’t realize how heavily this channel skewed towards a male audience. I agree with many of your assertions about women based on my experience attending an all-girls high school and working in a predominantly female field (counseling) prior to staying home to take care of our children. I always have had a hard time with social relationships in general, but particularly with other women. It’s gotten better as I have gotten older and I now have a great community of low maintenance/no drama women that I genuinely enjoy being around in a homeschool community I am part of. That said, to your point about women openly hating men while accusing them of being misogynistic is spot on. When I worked on a treatment team for drug and alcohol rehabilitation, there were 2 lone male counselors on a team of women. Both got teased, but one became the butt of a lot of jokes. We were in a staff meeting one day and someone was making fun of him in regards to his relationship success. It was sad because he just took it. I guess he didn’t feel like he had much of a choice as he was outnumbered. I confronted all the women who were teasing him and said if the roles were reversed you absolutely would not be okay with what was just said, what makes it okay for you to say it? The room fell awkwardly silent for a while and I proceeded to eat my lunch and let it be. Another time, I had male client in group therapy who by every indication seemed to be a misogynist through and through. I didn’t personalize his remarks, just realized that was where he was and tried to understand him. Eventually, I had to move him to individual sessions to accommodate his work schedule. He did a complete 180 in individual therapy and opened up and disclosed wounds and hurts he had experienced from his mother. I asked him towards the end of his treatment what caused his change of attitude towards me as a counselor and towards treatment. His words will always stick with me, “I saw that you actually wanted to help me and were willing to go out of your way to do so.” I don’t want to turn this into a dog pile on women. There are great men and women out there and there are terrible men and women. It’s hard for either side to find a good counterpart. I didn’t date a ton (1 guy prior to meeting my husband). I met my husband when I was 25 and got married at 27. There were so many guys that I passed over, not because they weren’t good enough on a financial level , but on a character level. Lots of guys just wanting to hook up and not commit. It just wasn’t my jam due to my convictions of faith. I wanted to find a guy that would be my best friend and a great father to our children. It took awhile l, but I found him and I am holding on. He is pure gold. Going on 12 years marriage with 2 girls and a third on the way in a couple weeks. One thing that has kept me grounded is not having an instagram. I think that app breeds discontent, entitlement and competition amongst women. Our family isn’t wealthy from a material standpoint, but are truly rich where it matters. There are good men and women truly out there. It may just take awhile to find them in the midst of the cultural mess we are in.
My sister who was basically an SJW, has turned centrist watching these videos.
Don't realize how much of a mind worm all the feminist ideals are in our society until you look into them. And than they are everywhere messing up everything.
Congratulations on saving your sister.
[aplause]
My sister was born an SJW. She's a malignant narcissist, so feminism fits her nicely; feminism is group narcissism.
@@thatguy22441🤓
6:44 That map is true, especially for the upper classes, but peasant women were very much active figures in their society. If you recall, aristocratic Chinese women footbinded themselves as to distinguish them from the active Chinese peasant woman. Or the tough-working prairie women in the Wild West, in which Western states were typically some of the earliest states to give women the right to vote. Even traditional Appalachian women are pretty tough people (source: J. D. Vance's "Hillbilly Elegy"). I get the feeling that widow burning is a mercantile/aristocratic thing (it doesn't make much sense for a poor Indian farmer to lose valuable manpower by killing his wife). Basically, there's always a distinction in most societies between sequestering rich aristocratic women and commoner women sharing a similar amount of responsibilities to tending the land as her husband (due to manpower issues or the husbands killing themselves in wars or brawls that seriously injure them).
He also forgot to mention the active public participance of upper class and lower class women in South India, Southeast Asia, and parts of sub-Saharan Africa. As well as the Eurasian steppe zone. It was really just the more centralized regions that secluded women more.
So you admit that women often do things to themselves that hinder their mobility for cosmetic purposes. Women in China footbinded themselves. Just like women today enforce the cultural practice of FGM.
The map is also a cherry picked map. It's not true that women have been ruthlessly oppressed in all or even most societies that have existed.
The map cherry picks certain regions and time periods to paint a false image of the past.
Women have also never been that tough bro. Women do 1/3 of what men do in every scenario and get called "tough women". Sounds goofy to me.
@@mint8648The centralized regions didn't consistently seclude women either.
There were periods of Islamic rule that didn't seclude women.
this guy just cherry picked his history to paint a false narrative of the past.
I've been watching anti-f~ youtubers for years like Janice Fiamengo and Karen Straughan, and ocasionally Paul Elam and others. Just very recently there has been a *huge* increase in this sort of content, some of them apparently just cashing in (like Pearl), others seemingly just now genuinely discovering the irrationality, bad faith, cherry picking, and double standards of f~. Whatever the motivation, I'm not complaining. It's about time for a reckoning.
Pearl? Is that the white girl that exclusively dates black guys? Truly an icon of the new right
@@aa-qx1cg The youtube channel is called "justpearlythings". She puts out a huge amount of content, parroting the (correct) analyses, like the majority of this video. But she often goes further to be controversial/profitable. But its not just her, there has been a deluge of content even in the last few weeks. I tould be the YT algorithm, but I think something big is afoot.
@@paulwaryI've noticed the same, after events over the last few years I wonder if it's "Big brother" preparing for the pendulum to swing back.
This movement would become as irrational as this one right now
Wow. As one of the apparently few women on this channel, I was super interested in this video, and I appreciated your take for the most part. I think you captured women's *general* nature pretty effectively. It was definitely expressed in an unabridged man's way of thinking, which was somehow both jarring and refreshing.
The feminist movement has in fact become sexist against women as well, and it's infuriating because I can't bring this up in most groups without getting shredded. Feminism today has attacked traditional female values and activities (at least for women lol) including homemaking, mothering, sensitivity, virtue, and delicacy. My Psychology of Gender class in college repeatedly bashed at me that if men and women want to be equal, women should "be allowed" to do and be all the things that men are. In other words, any sane woman will go to college, become an engineer or CEO, and sleep around instead of settling down. Cause that's the good life right??? When I tell people I've been a stay at home mom since I was 20, they give me sad looks and wonder why I wasted my potential. It's makes me so frikin mad. But hey if a guy wants to go do all that, let's give him a big applause! I'm solidly convinced that the simplest way to get a foothold in this world is to act like the other gender. How messed up is that...
A couple critiques. You already know this, but there are a pretty substantial number of women out there that have been raised to avoid backbiting emotional shaming. But due to being less dramatic, they are quieter and get less public attention.
Also, as to there being no large unified groups of women, there is one worth mentioning, which is the Relief Society of the LDS (Mormon) church. They've lost a lot of that spark today, but their history and founding is pretty cool for any history buffs out there.
Nice.
I personally appreciate your watching the video as a woman, and then criticizing it as well. That's what we need. We don't just want this to be a male echo chamber. I don't like modern women AT ALL, but I also know a good half dozen women who are modern but still great people. You are right about the less dramatic and quieter woman not getting the attention. We know you exist; or at least I do!!!
Thanks for sharing your experiences and criticism. With how skewed the demographics on this channel and those similar to it are, it's rare to see a female perspective and critique on this sort of video.
You'll notice he did not forgot about your sufferings because of feminism, as he acknowledged in fewer words what you wrote in your second paragraph at some point in the video. He stated and explained how modern feminism is devaluing what historically was seen as feminine virtue, like you did.
I'm stating this, not really to correct you, but mainly to say that as as men who are critical about modern feminism, we know you exist,. We know many of you women understand what is happening to you, and some of you even understand how badly it also affects us as men, even if this empathy we would like to behold more is incredibly rare. It's just that we are desperate, if not borderline losing all hope, because we know you exist, but we can't see you in the seemingly unending crowd of loud narcissistic masochists that is now the self proclaimed "feminist" majority.
@@LLS710This is one of the best comments I've seen in a while and healthy. You should be wary of the frankly huge numbers of straight up sexist women. While simultaneously understanding that good women do exist. Unfortunately it seems to be the case currently that most dudes either hate women or worship them to the point of simply accepting. Any and all nonsense behaviors from said women,with the ur example being "believe all *women."
Watching, America in particular as I live there, a country go thru it's generations and change culturally, or whatever you want to call it, is like watching a person with absolutely no conscious thought get led around like a blind man.
And to me that is the #1 most frustrating thing about our society bc if we stopped and put any thought into what we do or will do them we wouldn't be doing anything the way that we are. We have created a society so warped twisted and backwards that it is literally destroying people's psyche.
It's fascinating if not terrifying to see how modern society has tried to upend millenia (if not longer) of biological/cultural/environmental traditions that have for the most part worked; and what hasn't can usually be attributed to the sheer brutality and unfairness of nature
@@tankwfwthe consequences of feminism
Highly underrated comment. I firmly believe that the single largest issue facing our society is an inability to make mature decisions about serious problems.
@@tankwfwi don't think i really dislike going far from our barbaric roots.
I mean, the basis of our culture were back breaking labor, Child and women abuse, racism and going to war over something as stupid as religion.
I kinda like going forward and not backward
Is this what happens when women have unchecked power? Or is it just the hard liberals? Both? Something else? I don't know but everything seems run on emotion and reactionary impulses.
I’m just going to leave this here.
America had men voting not because of their gender. It was because the intent was to have one vote per household. To suggest that women didn’t influence their husbands in their voting is just silly - if true, women never would have gotten the right to vote because men wouldn’t vote for it.
This
Whomen didnt want to vote first because they knew it would send them to work. Some feminists movements were against whomen vote
Never forget or forgive the fact that women got prohibition passed. This resulted in the income tax. Never forget or forgive them for shaming men into fighting and dying needlessly in war.
@@sethjones5250Dude 'women' didn't do any of that as a unit. Those were massive political movements with men and women on either side of them. It's true that women's movements had a large role in the temperance movement but that was 120 years ago. It would be absurd to blame any modern women, or even any woman at the time not directly involved, for that happening.
@@sethjones5250the income tax came into existence at the beginning of 1914. Prohibition began in 1920. Furthermore, no one votes for wars. Wilson ran on an antiexpansionist platform. Fdr promised to stay out of ww2.
The problem is democracy. Democracy is used to dissipate responsibility for decisions made by the elite out into the broader public. No elite decision makers are ever held responsible for anything they do.
A good example is immigration. No average voter is pro immigration. They understand it lowers their wages. Yet the border is open. No voter voted for the hart cellar act and ted kennedy promised everyone once it was passed that it WOULDNT change demographics. Now the country is no longer viewed as a European country the way that it once was.
Elites make decisions. The media frames a debate with two false choices. The masses nod their heads. This is how everyone (normies) now magically accepts troons in workplace convos.
My hypothesis is that once the feminist mission was complete the movement was so big that it was something that couldn't just cease to exist. So then it switched to furthering rights for women while overtime losing the equality part
It's the same with any civil rights group. These organisations earn a tonne of money. If an anti-racist organisations runs low on racism, they need to invent conspiratorial theories about how different things are racist in order to justify their existence and consequently their funding. It is the exact same with feminism. You have jobs, industries and academic fields all totally reliant on this ideology. Should supply of sexism not meet the demand, they will simply invent to self justify.
@@lordthruxawe504 As much as i hate to say it, this is why america's melting pot plan is failing, a melting pot of people's might have worked, but no group involved has a reason to seek that.
That's true to some degree, but if you trace it back, you see that all of the modern identity politics movements were created by Marxists who were looking for more effective ways to sell Marxism to Americans.
Nah all political movements want to take power including this one. The question is who is he best one.
It's always been a tool by elites to divide and conquer society, and to lower birthrates.
Never should have given women the vote.
Yeah, hate to tell this, but feminism has proven to be a mistake from day 1 even waaaaaay back in the early 1900's. It just took much longer for the shit to hit the fan.
I wanted feminism to work. I truly wanted. But with how these "wimen" have been behaving from getting too much freedom, second class citizenship is where they go.
@@mekingtiger9095nah, im putting the blame on men for not keeping their wifes and daughters in check even during 1st wave feminism. Like he said men bear the responsibility for their family hence their last names
you got a point here
Women were miserable when they had to rely so much on men. They never would’ve pushed for that right if men weren’t literally evil lol
@@eddiesmith7867 You'd be a great feminist. Blaming women's behaviour on men.
By taking away their accountability, you are doing the same thing you are accusing their fathers of.
Feminism was always that way. Saying you want to go back to First Wave or Second Wave Feminism is like saying you want to go back to Stage 1 Cancer while you're at Stage 4.
I love how all the men can finally see the lies they have been told. Whatifalthist is trying to sugarcoat because he knows TH-cam will come for his channel.
@@bornstar481not all women are bad. In fact many are calling out the bs of these extremists. Unfortunately many good women will be caught in the crossfire. If the backlash were to occur I think many people are just trying everything within their ability to mitigate the damage as much as possible.
@@toledochristianmatthew9919 they have a term for those people they are called female chameleons. They usually do those kinds of things only because they know it will give them free things and attention from guys. Besides you wouldn’t call an animal that kills it’s prey bad or evil it’s just it’s nature. This is women’s nature.
@@toledochristianmatthew9919not all women are bad, but all feminists are bad
@AzureWolf168I feel like this is more true with women support trans women. Women now in days will call out feminist bs and just regular bs women do 😂
As an older woman, I had enough struggle with second wave feminism as a teen/young adult because I felt that it was full of misogyny and pushing women to be more like men. So to look at third wave feminism is... bizarre to say the least. I count my salvation on moving out of DC and going to Cajun Louisiana where the culture is much more family oriented and therefore less accepting of this 'victimization du jour' pressure.
I’m a younger woman seeing third wave feminism go down and it’s terrifying. I can’t even speak my mind publicly anymore it’s gotten so bad. No one even wants to be my friend anymore/can’t make new friends because I’m not part of one of the most destructive propaganda machines the western world has ever seen. I hope you have some luck in Louisiana!
A quite from my girlfriend - "in Ass V Thighs V Tits the answer is Arms every time aparently - guys just need love. Many times Ive comforted and cared for my guy friends or aquatances thinking it common decency and they have almost always confused it for love." - yea amazing girl love her to bits, getting a great boyfriend when youre a girl is literally as easy as being kind and caring and then picking one of the many who now have a crush on you.
The juice dream coming true: Europeans destroyed by the values they injected and promoted while they dominate and are in demographic expansion.
A total nut case country what do you expect
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714Yeah women legit need to be careful how nice they are to dudes because they will just fall in love with her one after another.
Unfortunately most modern women are not attracted to good, loving men. They think they can get a sexy and dangerous man and have him also be good to them. When in reality, what makes him sexy makes him a shit husband and father.
Mothers used to explain this to their daughters but we're 3-4 generations into bad mothers and fathers being worse than useless. We need to basically reinvent the historical tradition of families that the vast majority of us were denied as children.
My fantasy is showing this video to my feminist friends, and them being able to sit through the whole thing and actually digest the information.
They won't care. It's a cult, they mentally will not comprehend it. The only way to argue with those people is to use their own logic against them. Like saying that women getting jobs is just supporting the patriarchy by making them wage slaves when nobody really wanted to get a career in the first place.
Good luck
Same. I so badly want to show um this video. If any of um get offended I’ll just skip to the part that he says they’ll get offended by it lmao. But there isn’t a point. None of them would watch an hour long video telling them why their religion is wrong
Digest the misinformation lol his bibliography isnt even correctly made
They'd get triggered and call your boss to have you fired, after five minutes.
What do you mean?
Its always been meant to lead here.
The destruction of the family.
Exactly!
Since we're referencing Dave Chappelle. I love what he said about how men and women differ telling stories. He said men keep it down to who, what, when, where and why. His example was "me and Kenny were at Safeway, Kenny said this, so I punched him and then I broke out" then for women he starts off with " well first off you have to understand that I had my period that day so I was already in a bad mood and......." pretty accurate I would say.
Feminism hasn't changed. It just looks different because you're seeing it up close rathwr than through the lens of sympathetic history books.
Eh, to be honest Feminism of today is a little more friendly towards sex than second or third wave feminism, however this wave is more authoritarianz than the other waves.
Yeah let's go back to the middle ages when you could have your wife killed and ninded her foot or mutilated her genitals, god forbid we try not to be as evil as the left! That would be too smart!
Truth. Same thing with "Civil Rights".
The truth that dare not say its name.
Feminism won't die until people can readily admit this.
Trust me bro. If you're a history nerd like me, you'll know that people only change when something bad is happening. And it will happen unfortunately.
Well, honestly, at least we'll have some enterntainment watching the world burn before things start to get fixed again (for a while until the next cycle...).
Fed boi working as a double agent rn 😂
The handmaid's tale will become a reality because of feminism
Don't tell the femenists😂😂😂
Aka Islam is right about women.
@@ryeguy7941watch and see. It will be interesting
Depends on how bad the demographic collapse is. Irregardless of actual causes, it will be blamed on feminism and there will be a huge social shift to get women at home, having babies.
I don't think it's going to be feminism. But it will pave the way to Idiocracy.
Which will make us vulnerable to the worst people in society. And they will be the ones to dish it out.
While the feminists run away. Or hide in their homes.
Shoot. If the pay gap were real, I’d hire all women and I’d pay them an extra 10 cents to work naked for me and I’d STILL be ahead of my competitors.
that sounds like a really body positive workplace
Some women you don't want to see naked. Just saying...
@@jean-louislalonde6070 well perhaps I’d have to pay those ones more......to keep their clothes on 🤔
I don't know how people can make videos about feminism being delusional, when there are misogynist comments like this. It's comments like that make women so angry.
If I’m on a date and a girl legit started talking social justice, I think I’d just enjoy my meal and talk about how “what I’d do in Nazi occupied Paris and if Hitler wanted me as his top guy”
Heil'd o/
@@lilben4184 Go outside and stop shilling for genocidal regimes, degenerate
You can't keep getting away with it!!
I think I would leave. Someone who talks about politics on the first date is mentally handicapped.
What would you do? In different positions, I imagine your answer would change.
So, what would you do if you were made a:
General of an army?
In charge of a concentration camp?
His personal bodyguard?
The thing that is known as feminism in this day and age has always left a very sour taste in my mouth. For so many reasons. But mostly I just cannot stand the hypocrisy and garbage spewing from this younger generation of so called feminists mouths. Its very disheartening. I’m a 54 year old woman who has watched this movement become much more toxic than should be allowed as well as it seeming far more toxic than any other similar movement in the current times. I’ve never had p-nis envy, never hated men, never thought that women should be entirely “in charge” of anything. For all the difficulties involved? It’s apparent that men and women are meant to work together. That neither sex should “be in charge” exclusively. Why is this such a problem?? The hostility has become exhausting and pointless. I agree with most (if not all; I’m going to re-watch) of the points you’ve made. Thanks for a great video!!
It started when the 2nd Wave Fems became Teachers and Teachers Aids.
They basically said that Girls were allowed to push boys over and the boys could do nothing.. this was *never* curbed in the Generation of "Womxn" that you're seeing today (They don't deserve to be called Women.)
This is coming from a 90's kid so IDK what the younger ones are thinking other than "Vengeance"
This is why/how we get bottom-of-the-toilet-bowl "role models" like Andrew Tate sadly.
The first feminist were fueled by bitterness and rage, it's just more obvious now than then.
We gave the wrong people an inch, and they took a mile. Next time: gatekeep. We have it all on tape. Teach every generation in school. We will never forget. *Never again.*
History repeats itself unfortunately. Our own ancestors tried to warn us in writing, myths, stories, legends, art, etc, but we didn't listen. So how could we expect our decedents to listen to us? Sure we have video footage but even if that won't be lost (which it might be given enough time), there's still the chance future generations will make a "not real feminism" argument like they endlessly do with communism today.
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amen brother
If the world goes to shit, though, I wonder if people in 1000 years will know what happened. So much of our information is online that if the net goes down or our data centers are destroyed, then so is our documentation of the West's suicide.
There were a lot of written sources that warned us of this repeating cycle, it's just that people fail to listen/pay attention.
Maybe having everything on video will finally change things, or maybe it won't, time will tell.
@@joesomebody3365 Most people only pay attention to what they want to be true. You could have all the evidence in the world. If someone does not want something to be true, they would just ignore it.
History keeps repeating because human nature does not change.
Be prepared for left wing youtubers to make a video about this and try to debunking the whole video and failed to debunk the argument.
As they should because some of his ideas are so stupid.
@@michaelknox3715Name one
I wouldn’t say stupid - some of his presentation is overly broad and reductive. But he gets the underlying dynamic correct. If I were to criticize- I’d make the point that each sex can be broken down further into feminine men and women who don’t get along with other women specifically because they chaff at feminine in-groups. This complicates the dynamics. And - of course - everyone is an individual mix of nature and nurture. That said - the broad strokes he presents here have basic and deep roots.
@@michaelknox3715Elaborate your opinion then
Looking at you Shaun.
Hating men because you are an independent/strong woman who longer “needs men,” is like hating your parents when you grow up and become self-sufficient, despite them being typically critical to your survival in the past.
How is hating vast numbers of individuals a sign of strength anyway? It's a sign of character weakness. It's a hindrance in advancing your independence as you won't react well to having to interact with males on a daily basis.
I'm actually independent and strong, and don't hate men. I don't hate anybody for no reason, there needs to be a damn well reason for it.
problem is, a d*mn well reason for it to women is usually something exceedingly petty and minor. Even how you responded to him sounds angry. NO ONE is independent and strong; it's all an illusion. We are all interdependent through and through.Strong? Yeah, I guess, if you say so, whatever that may mean to you, who knows.@@RandomPersonLol366
the funny thing is most of them aren't independent at fucking all they just use their physical attractiveness to lure money from men. *A way to solve this is to make men no longer need women, therefore completely erasing one-sided gender dependency, meaning using technological advances to make gender transitions quick, simple, harmless, painless and completely working(biological) to effectively nullify gender in general and destroy the argument of typical SJWs and neofascists alike.
Really enjoyed the lecture Whatif. Especially the link you made between Feminism- Female Taught Schools and School Shootings. Really dropped the penny for me and I haven't heard anyone else make the correlation before. Keep up the good work young fella
Richard Reeves is also getting at it but in a less blaming and more inclusive manner. I hope people start listening to these folks, though. Men tried in the 90's (with the Men's Movement) but females rejected us for being too soft. Imagine if we had replied that women were too demanding! If we had pointed out their passion for perfection, which causes neurosis and psychosis, and taking it all upon themselves to achieve it! Some men tried this (me included) and were labeled misogynistic so dismissed.
Feminism is a flawed idea since men and women aren't equal to begin with. We should fight for fairness not equality.
It's the supremacy and tyranny of females over males. It's a vindictive, vengeful, destructive movement, nothing more.
Current feminism has been Femi-Marxism for a while, turning into a Female Supremacy, and cultural subversion movement; meant for the weakening of society, because the result of something is what is meant for; is a weapon, which has reduced more population than the nuclear bomb ever did.
Fairness in what regard? How would you enforce fairness onto the world?
Sadly they managed to make men and women unequal and unfair in how society treats both. men are hated for anything we do, and they are loved for anything they do.
Modren women just are not built for empathy and compassion and Honestly I hope most just go lesbian, and stay their.
Feminists don't understand biology. That's a lot of the problem. That's the conclusion of Dr. Christina Hoff Sommers and Camille Paglia, in their conversation on you tube, at the American Enterprise Institute, "On the absence of biology in gender studies." So it's pure ideology, meaning feminists just make up stuff that is often simply not true, not supported by evidence or even common sense.
First, I'm glad to hear other men bedside myself use the word misandry. Although I'm greatly disheartened that society devolved to such a degree that a decade ago (my mid-30s at the time), I felt the need to look up if such a word existed.
Same boat I'm in my mid-thirties and it's just a shocker how far we've come socially and I'm not even A person that subscribes to an ideology if I did have to say I'm more left wing economically but socially I would be right wing and it's like man it's tough out here one of the reasons why I'm going to look into doing van life save up as much money as I can so I can be as economically independent and agile so that if situation gets even worse I can leave at a moment's notice
So sad it had to go that far. But I'm really afraid the backlash ist going to destroy any chance of living peacefully together.
Hope people think before they act.
@@bleiglanzThe backlash, if there is one (doubtful) will be wholly justified.
Women should have no place in governance.
Be honest bro, if politics was a solely male endeavor, the world would look vastly better.
The problem is, starting in the late 80s, we began validating women and their emotions beyond the point of reasonability, in order to make up for the years of oppression. The attitude of men were ok whatever sure you go girl whatever you say we support it. It went unchecked for decades and now has devolved beyond logic.
Great point. We men supported them in their rise and now they want to kick us in the face. We have feelings toooo.... y'know!
Yeah but the years of oppression was BS it was a lie pushed and still pushes today I was told of the oppression but they've had the right to vote for more than 4 generations there has been no true oppression from the nice guys they abuse and have always abused only the bad men they date
The problem started in the 50s with the kgb pushing this crap into universities and schools, its like a snowball they didint needed to push it anymore
There were no years of oppression. All those rules were there to keep women's destructive nature in check.
Telling young boys that they are part of the patriarchy is very dangerous. It’s basically telling them that they are the architects of their own misery and everyone else’s. This is gaslighting and misandry.
Agreed. It's also factually incorrect. Social norm enforcement is higher among women than among men. This means that women enforce social norms more than men do.
Society is really controlled by women.
And it has the potential to lead some young men to do particularly catastrophic things in the future. Because if young men are told they are evil and destructive for simply just existing then they wont see anything wrong with actually doing evil things
You should have gone over the physiological and psychological effects of birth control pills on the female body and it's coloration to modern feminism.
As far as i can tell as a male, it seems to effect what they are attracted to and messes their feelings a bit, beyond that i don't think there is even much in studies being done.
Rollo Tomasi did a video on this correlating the rise in divorce rate, childhood obesity, introduction of no fault divorce, etc to the availability of hormonal birth control. It is, in my opinion, the major source of all of the imbalances today.
Yeah, birth control has some awful side effects and even worse long term effects, i don't understand why we haven't invented a better solution
@@tereza1959 Honestly in most western countries women's lack of fertility is more of an issue than them becoming pregnant too often, it's kinda sad IMO...
The two are correlated. Some women give birth to 5 kids and mistreats them, then many get irked and do the opposite.
Only thing i disagree with is that there were feminist movements in the Roman Empire, Greece and the Islamic world. British historian Sir John Glubb wrote how in all these ancient empires eventually women gained lots of influence in fields that were normally dominated by men, the end result of all this was that those women passed reforms that made society weak and emasculated which made these once superpowers very vulnerable to outside invasions and start losing easy wars, which did happen and after that they undid everything women did and put em back in their place, and restricted them even more now that they had a good reason to not give em equality. A similar thing seems to be happening with America where these feminism reforms include things like "fat acceptance" and that is resulting in the US Army not being able to recruit soldiers who meet fitness requirements. And of course there are tons of other issues it causes like low birth rates, etc... which all those ancient empires also went through. So it seems like history is just repeating iself and America is basically dying from decadence like all those old empires. You know hard times create strong men who create good times, which create weak men, which creates hard times
F-menism is a virus, injected into the body of society by those who want to destroy it.
Hard core SJW activists proudly brag about this to each other, referring to themselves as a "virus" - sneaking into institutions and covertly transforming it to produce more people like them. This is the high L3ft moral ideal called "subversiveness". They know EXACTLY that they are creating stupid movements that destroy a society and they are PROUD of it. But your average cukservative is willfully ignorant. The l3ft says, "Put your hand over your eyes while I destroy everything around you, or else I'll call you bad names." And they promptly obey.
Could you suggest me a book of his.
Sounds extremely interesting
@@zadaofficial8091 fates of empires
@@pasta_la_vista_baby thanks!
Would be slow. But would be interesting to watch
I'm amazed at how brilliant is this young guy. I'm a 69 woman from Latin America. I agree completely with him
Nice.
Also, if you didn’t know, Jesus will fulfill you more than anything in this world, I speak from experience (from when i did Romans 10:9-13), he loves you and wants to be in a meaningful (not romantic) relationship with you. :)
“that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Romans 10:9-13 KJV
“and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
Mark 1:15 KJV
If you want proof that Jesus and the Bible are true look a documentary called “Ron Wyatt discoveries 2022” on TH-cam and a TH-cam channel called Expedition Bible. They both examine archeological sites and discoveries that prove the Bible, and even reference secular sources. (Just don’t convert to 7th day Adventism after watching the documentary) And lastly if you don’t know the gospel and want to be saved search up “abc’s of Salvation Teenmissions” on Google and it should be the first or second result. When you click on it read the whole thing, and do what it says and have faith in Jesus while you are doing it, do not doubt, and if it is hard for you to do what it says, ask Jesus to help you, have faith that he will, and *he will.*
God Bless :)
"A social club for influencers." Sounds like hell on Earth
Thought the exact same thing, in LA no less. No one human has the patience required. F outta here
More like a big kindergarden
I suppose there’s a reason it doesn’t exist anymore
Don’t forget the worst part, “in LA”
Feminism hasn't changed, it was always about giving women authority but no responsibility
Could you explain? And if so, what can we do?
@@ButWhyMe... TWRA
@@father042 Wat?
@@ButWhyMe...Take something like the selective service. Women got the vote with no attachments or requirements. Men had to sign up for the draft and civil service to vote. Depending on state today you can’t get your tax return, get gov student grants, get a license without selective service registration.
Take something like taxation, 80% of all tax revenue comes from men with women being a net detractor from the resource pool and men being a net contributor.
Take something like climate change, globalization, impact of industrialization. They are all fueling the pipeline for consumer goods. Who’s the vast majority of consumer spending? Women again are fueling the demand for the very things degrading our environment, driving child labor, killing people with cancer. Men have a part to play in that as well, women are among the staff in those industries in the corporate environment driving dehumanizing decisions.
Take false allegations, they are extremely prevalent if you discuss the matter with the officers & detectives that process those cases. The ideologues only count the adjudicated cases that are proven in court. They don’t count the ones where nothing is pursued where the women dropped the charges suddenly when questioned and their claims didn’t add up. You see this in corporate environments, Hollywood, divorce courts, and family courts for example.
Take paternity fraud, for paternity tests it’s estimated by the American blood association that 30% of the fathers in population are raising kids that aren’t theirs based on paternity test results. Women will sleep around so much they can’t identify the father and just write whichever name on the birth certificate ensuring a 18 year minimum debt trap for the men involved where they face jail time for not paying child support.
These are a few examples and doesn’t get into female teachers abusing boys, child abuse and infanticide, domestic violence ect.
Yathzee pfp lol.
I would not protect a woman today, even though I have trained in martial arts for 43 years. I would protect a female I know or a member of my family but not a stranger
It’s very American (understandably) analysis. I’m a female engineer and I work with many women engineers. Most of them were not born in US. Feminist movement is suffering from the same thing other activist movements are suffering from - general stupidity and luck of accountability. We can’t survive without each other! Men and women need each other, must learn to cooperate and balance modern society problems/solutions.
Tonya, you and i come from orthodox christendom. Be real, epicurian problem finding is not what they need. Jesus is. Right now there is no natural incentive for people to make prosperous environments for families. We live on free will and disobedience of God. You think it's just simple as that?
Lord jesus christ, son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.☦
I've been coming back to this video and something I realised is that we only punish physical aggression and not mental, which is a HUGE part of the men's mental health crisis.
Yes. Women have little to nothing to worry about in a relationship because anything wrong a man can do is already illegal. Men have tons to worry about in a relationship because there's a huge laundry list of things women can do wrong that, not only aren't illegal, but he can end up punished for it.
100% agree. How come I'll go to jail if I beat my wife, but she won't if she tells me to do the dishes while playing COD???
@@mgg7756How come she can gaslight me for two years, send me into therapy, destroy my sense of self and my understanding of the world. How is it that she's being praised for abusing me?
More like she won't go to jail for lying about stealing your money selling your stuff without your consent and telling you a baby is yours when it comes from someone else or gaslight you til you're insane your strawmanning is Disgustting @@mgg7756
@mgg7756 Either this is a bait comment or your to stupid to understand what he said.
I remember getting bullied by girls for playing Yu-Gi-Oh at middle school. I never understood why i had to show them respect when i was shown none in return.
@@KrellKrypto if only my parents saw it that way...
Been playing yugioh since 2001
I was called gay all the way to high school. For simple playing
I resonate with your comment sir
@@r.a.panimefan2109 is good to know other people whom I can relate to!.
if a girl makes fun of you for having cards, you don't have to respect that singular girl as she is making fun of you no. That was middle school. That group of girls if you met and recognized them in the street, your middle-school bullies, no they wouldn't DEMAND your respect. You can walk right on by.
The woman serving you your coffee has literally zero relationship to kids who bullied you in middle school you fucking psycho, so yes like any other stranger who isn't about to rob you and is sober, yes she deserves basic respect. Not for being a woman, but a person. The average woman serving coffee or walking past you in the street is not your middle-school bully dude.
very good female friend of mine dated a guy that played yu-gi-oh on a semi-pro level when he was like, 21. She drives ambulances and they keep ducks. He has no money, and weirdly she's not ugly. Don't project your middle-school bullies onto women that talk to you. Just like men, they are capable of being very different from each other, give them that chance
@@r.a.panimefan2109tbf yu gi oh was always gayer than MTG
Another key point in the dissolution of the family unit has been declining respect for parental figures. Most mothers go out and work all day, then berate their sons for not showing enough feminine traits such as academic achievement, while most fathers are also working to provide for the family while also being too conditioned by the toxically feminine society to be a good positive masculine role model. Meaning most of Gen-Z looks to influencers and their friends for the things they would normally look to their parents for, further breaking apart the family unit.
You wouldn't have liked a family unit a few decades ago. Parents used to beat the shit out of their kids and no one cared. There was also a lot more work for everyone. It wasn't fun years ago.
Yeah, people who are raised by tiktok and public education become little liberal zombies that believe in delusions like gender theory. I think it is shocking and terrifying to see how social media grooms kids in a private and isolated way, and kids become secretive and are easily able to tiptoe around their distant parents.
The idea that doing well in school is a "feminine trait" is ridiculous. All the best scholars throughout history were men. Most engineers and philosophers are men. If you tell yourself that doing well in school is feminine then tbh it just sounds like you trying to come up with a cope for doing poorly.
Agree with what you said except about Academic Achievement being inherently "Feminine".Before Post-Modernism Men too traditionally excelled in Academics over Women as well.
@@ChimChim-di6jz I don't know how you grew up. I have seen normal two parent homes screw people up. I grew up in the middle of nowhere and it was common for parents to belt children and beat them with objects over minor things.
Many times I saw kids getting on the school bus that had bruises, were limping ect. The point is single moms are not the problem. Traditional families did this.
I loved your point on 2008 being "the year", and it was the start of the 4th turning, but the chart you showed really blew up in 2012. Looking back on it, 2012 really was an axial year, a la Mayan calendar. I read an interpretation around 2012-2013 saying that 2012 itself was not the end of the world, it was the center of an 8-year period 2008-2016 which would be the end of the world. Dang that was right on the money, whoever wrote that.
Small White Pill: At least in my life I have noticed a small awakening with quiet some woman. Since Feminism is going more and more insane, and since they started questioning the fundamental existance of woman themself, quiet a few woman started to get more conservative. It aint like they lost all their delustions, but for many you can clearly see that the cardhouse is unstable.
Definitely. My mom and grandma went from Democrats to Independent conservatives due to their dislike of how crazy modern liberals have become.
@@kadiliman3022Amen
If they have a body count higher than 2 or 3, it might not matter. If they are menopausal, it really does not matter.
What we need to do is to un-f*ck the young women of breeding age. Those are the future mothers of our nations and peoples. If they are too busy riding the C-0-ck Carousel and literally pros-t-it-uting themselves online for a cheap thrill and easy money, it's still all over.
That movement is still in its infancy, but I have definitely noticed a small number of non-political female influencers start making videos about how they feel that feminism has lied to them and has only made them less happy.
Quiet = to be in a state of or maintain silence
Quite= the utmost or absolute limit or extent
Yeah, yeah. Helpful keyboard text predictors.
Nothing changed, Feminism was always this way.
Nah 100 years ago it was good
@@Frazier16Ignorant.
@@Frazier16do research, it really wasn’t.
What we have now is the logical extension of liberalism
@@clamum9648 progressivism you mean.
*Where did feminism go wrong?* Erin Pizzey is a 2nd generation feminist, she has some of the answers. She's retired, in her 80s, has you tube videos. She knew all the feminists of her generation. Erin started the world's first women's shelter, in Britain. She was an ardent feminist.
Then she realized that sometimes in an abusive relationship, it's the woman's fault, not the man's fault. The female is the abuser, not the male. So being a good and moral person, Erin tried starting a shelter for men who were abused by the women in their lives. The other feminists hated this, because it took away from their government money from them and it placed some of the blame on women who were abusing men. That interfered with the feminist narrative of all men are bad, women are never wrong. Of course that view was nonsense from the start, but the early feminists were quite clever at manipulating men in power, with guilt.
When Erin showed some genuine compassion for men in abusive relationships, that's when the feminists turned on Erin, threatened her life. Her words, not mine.
However, once we understand a fuller picture that Erin explains in one of her videos, we should have a lot of sympathy for the pioneer feminists who turned on Erin:
I have a lot of sympathy for pioneer feminists because Erin said a lot of the old pioneer feminists in their early lives, were severely hurt and abused in relationships, by the men in their lives. That's where they started their feminist philosophy. Their mistake was over generalizing their own painful personal experience with men, onto the whole world. That's why feminists have a false sense of reality. They think their subjective experience represents reality for everyone. No it doesn't.
These pioneer feminists were incredibly smart women, but were often motivated by revenge, coming from a place of hurt and pain. We need to be sympathetic. Lots of them rejected heterosexual relationships, for relationships with women instead.
So, who started it? Men. Not all men, but a few jerks. A few terrible men.
I think a lot of this feminism actually started with, terrible behavior from some men. I have no sympathy for those men, I condemn them completely. They hurt women. That's terrible. The feminist women who were hurt the most, are even now getting revenge on men. What comes around, goes around.
Where this feminists movement goes wrong is, the vast majority of women don't get abused by men, most women rather like men a lot and enjoy being around men, and have healthy relationships with men. But the women leading the feminist movement started from a bad place, due to their personal histories. They didn't enjoy good relationships with men.
This gave early feminists a very bad and unrealistic view of male female relationships in general, based on their own bad personal experiences. Most women don't feel that way, I'd guess. The mental error of feminism is this: One person's own bad experience with the other gender does not mean everyone of the opposite gender is bad.
If you want to find out why a woman is a feminist, ask her a simple question: Who hurt you?
Personal experience of a limited kind is not a reliable guide to everyone of the opposite gender. Most men are quite decent to women, form close bonds and families with women. Feminism is based on the theory that all men are bad, based on the theory that history can be interpreted as men oppressing women. That's complete and utter nonsense.
So it was bad news from the start.
Someone who hurts innocent people for the actions of others is evil by every definition and not deserving of sympathy. They wanted equality and I'm willing to give it. They probably won't like that though.
What comes around goes around?
I dont think so. Pre 1914 society was if we ignore the technical non advancement better than today in most ways.
So I dont think that women had a right to become feminists. Society back then Was pretty Solid, even though there was space to improve.
Those women aren't victims. They're evil.
"Oops, I was abused. I'm going to destroy all of Western Civilisation now, tee-hee!"
Victims that victimise others even worse stop being victims and become abusers themselves.
@AzureWolf168WWI is where the rot starts. 😢😥😓
Brilliant video. 99% in agreement except for one small disagreement. You said near the end that women were treated horribly by men all through history. This is simply not true at all, at least in western culture.
On the contrary they have always been granted privilages that men did not get. They were not required to do the hardest work that endangers life and limb. They had no requirement for military service. They get to decide if they want to work or not. They get to decide who to marry or not marry in the traditions of courtship. Marriage traditions and laws provided security for them to bear children and shamed and criminalised husbands who would abandon his wife.
I would not call that being treated horribly. Considering the men had to suffer in some ways that the women did not. Outside of western culture the FGM, footbinding etc are oddities that cannot be attributed solely to men, afterall both were encouraged and performed by women on women. We also see today the extremes some women will go to in order to attain the beauty standards of the culture.
When I saw the line about men idolizing their mother and contrasting their dates to their mother's purity, it had me rolling 😂. My mom is the complete opposite of pure. She is evil, fat, disgusting, and the anti-thesis of what it means to be a feminine woman.
Honestly, if you took the opposite of my mom, you would have a woman who is nearly perfect.
😂😂😂
Congratulations. You just created your perfect imaginary woman by comparing girls with your mother. Comparison doesnt always mean imitation. Sometimes its about finding the opposite of something.
That's the majority of western women nowadays. I say it everyday "they don't deserve their sons."
@@nikosgreek352 Ive never once thought about my mother when thinking whats attractive. I think about all sorts of fictional scenarios with all sorts of fictional partners and just see what makes me feel most happy.
Mine too!
You're going to marry a younger version of your mother. lol
Don't judge a thing by its cover or definition; judge it by what it does and you reach its true meaning and definition; by its effects feminism is a weapon, and a very destructive one.