Honestly I've never appreciated Timestamps more, to skip ahead to the other content for the same reason I don't watch reality TV shows. The elimination format is just annoying, especially with something like bikes. I like bikes, and variety is great.
One reason pinarello and canyon are top could be because the pinarello and canyon are so heavily used on the most popular cycling TH-cam channel. Advertising works wonders!
A sponsored channel that does also reviews, what could go wrong? There are like 40 bike manufacturers out there, which make pretty much the same high-end bike as Canyon and Pinarello.
For the most desirable bike, I believe that brand mystique and/or reputation is a huge factor. For the average cyclist, it is important to focus on what is a 'super bike for you.' For me, my Pinarello Prince is the best bike I have ever owned. While most would not label my bike as a 'super bike' by the standards of the day, it is indeed a super bike to me.
The artwork that so comprehensively confused Dennis and Terry is an homage to a Ukrainian postage stamp commemorating the defenders of Snake Island during the early days of the Russian invasion. One of the defenders famously said "Russian warship, go f*&ck yourself". The flames in the picture predict the demise of said warship, the Black Sea Fleet flagship Moskva, which happened a couple of months later. Definitely an unusual backdrop for a bike vault submission. Maybe also an argument for a GCN 'Current Events' channel :)
Is the painting pro Russian or pro Ukrainian, though? I mean today we know that the story was made up and all 70+ of these "defenders" surrendered. So if this is really commemorating that event, it must be a parody. I remember how shocked everyone was when they were all given awards, posthumously, and couple of days later they were all seen getting off the ship in Crimea and onto the bus.
@@trdiyeah, last I heard that was all a dumb joke people were still falling for. Especially the part of Sam Hyde as the "legendary ace pilot of snake island" lmao. The memes sure were great.
@@trdi the fact that the defenders survived is actually pretty great, as lives were spared. Doesn't take away the fact that they indeed radioed the said ship to go and f**k itself when told to surrender. Not that they could actually do much on a piece of rock under missile fire, so eventually they were taken prisoners, but at the time Ukrainians didn't know about their fate. And yes - the Moskva eventually did go and do what it was told to do, with some help from two Ukrainian anti-ship missiles.
Congratulations to the Pinarello Dogma F: THE weapon of choice for some of the fastest Pro Tour riders and most of the slowest MAMIL dentists in your local group rides. 😁
Bent mech hangers are way more common than you think. New bikes right out of the box will usually have a mech hanger that needs a bit of love. In the 10-speed days, you didn't really notice it as much because the tolerances for shifting were not as tight as they are today. not that it happens often but anytime shifting is off on my 12-speed, I break out the hangar tool first to check that alignment before I touch anything else.
Aw man... While the Dogma F is kind of a work of art, there's something about the Aeroad which I really like. The straight lines, the thicker seat stays, the way the seat tube follows the shape of the back wheel. The Aeroad is definitely my dream bike right now.
True, I'd take the Aeroad over the Dogma. Dogmas and Tarmacs are played out. I like the clean lines of the Aeroad as well, that's why I went with the BMC Team Machine SLR01 because of its clean lines.
You know that the Aeroad is an absolute shit show when comes to good engineering?! It is surely fast an aerodynamic, but the seat post design is a bad joke and creaky as hell and the headset and handlebar integration is just outright dangerous ...
I don't know why but this poll seemed to be hidden much of the time, I found it only a couple of times during the various rounds. I think people voted for the Dogma because it's a Pinarello and the long association with Ineos/Sky, rather than the model itself
I feel like these desirable polls are mostly knowledge checks. If you are given a list of bike brands, but you only are familiar with one or two, you will vote for the ones you know. The end result is that only brands that are recognizable would win.
You should look in MKBHD's last phone camera head-to-head. They took the same photo with a number of cameras then had a site where people could vote. The voting worked by showing two similar photos side by side and you chose which one you preferred. They then crunched the data using a sort of "Elo" system (like for chess) which then ranked each photo independently of others. To do this with bikes you just put up photos of different bikes instead and then show two random bikes next to each other and the voter chooses which one they like more. This has a benefit of stopping smaller brands from getting knocked out of competition because there is no bracket to be eliminated from. In the end the photo, or bike with the highest rating wins and you can have further insights into things like "highest vote disparity" and even "Elo per dollar" or "most divisive bike". One of the benefits of the Elo system is bikes that are well liked and voted on are impacted more by less popular bikes beating them out when head to head.
Maybe I'm biased for canadians frames but Argon 18 are amazing and a good old Marinoni which are the most sublimes bikes ever (Mr Marinoni is a legend in Quebec cycling world and he learn his craft from Mario Rossin himself). At least there was a cervelo in the pool to reprensent our country.
I am in the market for a new bike this upcoming year. One factor I considered in picking Orbea is the documentary you did on the company. Learning that Orbea is an employee own company was a big factor in choosing the brand. Thank you for the great cycling context.
In response to the small brand competition: mass voting is going to be hugely influenced by brand recognition. Most of us know about some of the bespoke brands like Moots and I loved the video of Manon visiting the factory. How about a regular GCN tech segment highlighting some of these brands and their contributions to the sport? Onguza has a great story. Bastion, their engineers and their technology.
That last painting in the background was the image on a stamp from Ukraine to memorialize the brave soldier who told a Russian warship to go @#%# itself because the Ukrainians knew the ship was going to open fire on their position, and they were all expecting to die.
One thing that makes a brand (not necessarily a specific bike) is the brands stance on equal pay and amti-discrimination. Trek a few years ago bridged the gap in prize money for their women's team and because of that I find the brand so much more ethical and thus desirable.
I guess people love the Dogma F because it's aero + climbing bike combined. Most models have separate models and that splits the opinions on which bike is the best - some like aero shapes and the speed, while others want less weight and simple designs.
Oddly enough I rode a friend's Dogma F last night and wow, what a bike. I wasn't sure if Pinarello were overhyped or not but after last night, they're not.
I called this 6 years ago! I built a Toray carbon fiber plant (supplying the auto industry [BMW] here) in Moore, SC and invited everyone I could talk to build bikes right here instead of Taiwan. Good job, Time! I want a job there.
Concerning the massive chain rings. Ganna and others don't need those humongous chain rings, because they want the massive 70-11 gear. It's more so that they can avoid using the smaller cogs and therefore stay in the middle of the cassette and keep the chain in more of a straight line, thereby having better drivetrain efficiency. Of course it only works well on flat routes, otherwise they'll die on the hills.
Massively fun show again guys! For bicycles and cars, the greatest emotional draw has to be visual appearance, such as the incomparable Jaguar E type (XK-E in N. America) and in bikes, the Pinarello Dogma F. The one category in don't hear much about is riding comfort. More than racing, I like a touring bicycle, one you can ride comfortably for several hours without discomfort or outright pain until you get to that wonderful coffee stop where you want to feel eager to get back on the bike.
You also have a lot of British people in your Audience who still hold a soft spot for the dogma line thanks to Team Sky. Perhaps a primarily Belgian audience would vote differently?
Hey Ollie and Clive. That picture above the bianchi from the last entry on the bike vault is an iconic Ukrainian stamp honoring and depicting the defenders of Snake Island at the start of Russia’s invasion saying “Russian warship, go f*@k yourself!”
I can't wait to see ideas for boutique brands. I'm dreaming and saving up for my forever(titanium) bike for my 20th anniversary (three and a half years) and haven't decided on the mfg yet. I would also like to see the most desirable bike in the working man's price range, $1,000-5,000. For most of us, those higher echelon race bikes are out of the question, and we don't want a bike payment higher than a car payment. 😂
It'd be good to mention the cog that Ganna is using with the 70t chainring. He's likely using a large cog to decrease chain articulation to increase efficiency. The drawback is higher aero drag.
The painting is an alternative illustration of the painting "Russian warship, go fuck yourself" by Boris Groh commemorating the Snake Island incident last year in Ukraine
Interesting that the only time the Tarmac SL7 is mentioned is only in a negative light (using as a comparison for price even though the Dogma is even more expensive). It wasn’t even mentioned when referencing Evenepoel’s grand tour win. Seems like there’s a bias.
With a Cannondale and a Bianchi Oltre XR4 in the garage, I have to admit that I find my son's Cannondale far more comfortable on long rides and better in the wet with disc brakes, even if it is marginally slower than my celeste, rim brake, Italian princess. For me, the correct answer to the poll is to have two desirable bikes to choose from.
Bernal won the Tour on a Dogma F12. The current Dogma F was only released in 2021 I think, so Bernal's win still counts. Also, didn't Geraint Thomas and Chris Froome win on Dogmas with Team Sky? Maybe I'm misunderstanding what Ollie means... Anyways, the Canyon is my pick. Cheers gents!
Hey, for us, Bertrand is a great name! In fact, Bertrand used to be a great frame builder in Trois-Rivières, province of Québec, Canada in the ''80-'90s. They featured custom fit and silver brazing. 😃
Completely depends what you want in a bike. It’s like comparing Ferrari and Lexus. One is super exclusive, fast, an artistic marvel of engineering. The other is dependable, reliable, solid and never lets you down. Think Dogma F vs Caad13. 🤷
I wonder had Raleigh made an identical bike to the Pinarello Dogma F, if would been voted the most desirable bike in the World. I think the Pinarello winning was a totally predictable outcome.
It would be really amazing if GCN could do a detailed scientific deep-dive into why exactly lycra bib-shorts cause all humans to have to go to the bathroom within the first and last five minutes of putting them on.
Need to have is most desirable endurance bike. Maybe it is my age but I am done with fast race bikes. I am in for comfort for long rides now. Roubaix and Synapse are my two road bikes I ride the most now. My crit bikes just collect dust with my cross bike.
It is not surprising that the two bikes that won the competition are also channel sponsors. By regularly watching the videos and thus those bikes, we are quite biased.
Dogma doesn’t appeal to me as either best looking or value (an attraction aspect) - Trek Madone, Scott Foil, Canyon Aeroad - maybe I just don’t like Italian mechanical 😅
definitely want to see a most desirable bike competition for smaller/custom brands. I'm game for a third competition for brands using exotic materials (excludes aluminum, carbon fiber, and steel main tubes a.k.a - bamboo/titanium/magnesium/etc.) then a fourth competition for most desirable gravel bikes (aka - drop bar bikes that can handle a 35mm or larger tire size). Even more fun - a fifth competition for just those bikes ridden to victory in a grand tour, one day classic, world championship, or Olympic bike race (including individual bikes ridden during time trial and prolog stages). Of course that last one is a popularity contest but it identifies legendary bikes that have won races (One of my favorites - the Lotus 108).
Believe you can do small conpany bike pull easear and more reliable way. All bike smashed in one pull, but let choose 3, 4 or 5 of them instead of one. This way it easia to chose to voters, and you going to get verry clear picture, what bikes choosen more often. P.S. There should be supernice picture of every presented bike, because of small amount of them going to be recognisable.
Remco put so much effort in uploading his bike under a pseudonym! Now he is either crying or furiously coming to the Global Bike Festival to ride Ollie into the ground on the Großglockner. 😂
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Pinarello sheesh what a shocker! LOL ... Now there is an Issue this is a desirable bike mainstream... and I hope the upcoming custom small brands come soon because I certainly prefer a custom over the dogma the system six or the Canyon.
Mech hangers are a sacrificial link between the frame and the mech. a big hit may damage the mech, will probably bend or snap the hanger, but is less likely to damage the frame. Having the hanger really strong and built into the mech may result in more damaged carbon frames.
The painting from the last bike vault entry is in reference to a couple events early on during Russia's invasion of Ukraine. A Ukrainian soldier on Snake Island responded "Russian warship, go fuck yourself" to a radio message from the ship shown in that painting. The Russians did take Snake Island but the Ukrainians took it back and that same ship was destroyed later on in the war.
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Which bespoke or smaller brand bikes would you like to see featured in a most desirable poll? 🚲👇
BlackCat from California
Honestly I've never appreciated Timestamps more, to skip ahead to the other content for the same reason I don't watch reality TV shows. The elimination format is just annoying, especially with something like bikes. I like bikes, and variety is great.
Sturdy bicycles, specifically the Sturdy Fiadh
T-Red Bikes, italian brand, in particular their "T Red - ARACNIDE TITANIO"
Stelbel
One reason pinarello and canyon are top could be because the pinarello and canyon are so heavily used on the most popular cycling TH-cam channel. Advertising works wonders!
A sponsored channel that does also reviews, what could go wrong?
There are like 40 bike manufacturers out there, which make pretty much the same high-end bike as Canyon and Pinarello.
For the most desirable bike, I believe that brand mystique and/or reputation is a huge factor. For the average cyclist, it is important to focus on what is a 'super bike for you.' For me, my Pinarello Prince is the best bike I have ever owned. While most would not label my bike as a 'super bike' by the standards of the day, it is indeed a super bike to me.
The artwork that so comprehensively confused Dennis and Terry is an homage to a Ukrainian postage stamp commemorating the defenders of Snake Island during the early days of the Russian invasion. One of the defenders famously said "Russian warship, go f*&ck yourself". The flames in the picture predict the demise of said warship, the Black Sea Fleet flagship Moskva, which happened a couple of months later. Definitely an unusual backdrop for a bike vault submission. Maybe also an argument for a GCN 'Current Events' channel :)
Hmm quite.
It was a little cringe-worthy seeing Ollie and Alex not recognise and the go on to joke about this.
Is the painting pro Russian or pro Ukrainian, though? I mean today we know that the story was made up and all 70+ of these "defenders" surrendered. So if this is really commemorating that event, it must be a parody.
I remember how shocked everyone was when they were all given awards, posthumously, and couple of days later they were all seen getting off the ship in Crimea and onto the bus.
It all makes sense now!
@@trdiyeah, last I heard that was all a dumb joke people were still falling for. Especially the part of Sam Hyde as the "legendary ace pilot of snake island" lmao. The memes sure were great.
@@trdi the fact that the defenders survived is actually pretty great, as lives were spared. Doesn't take away the fact that they indeed radioed the said ship to go and f**k itself when told to surrender. Not that they could actually do much on a piece of rock under missile fire, so eventually they were taken prisoners, but at the time Ukrainians didn't know about their fate. And yes - the Moskva eventually did go and do what it was told to do, with some help from two Ukrainian anti-ship missiles.
Congratulations to the Pinarello Dogma F: THE weapon of choice for some of the fastest Pro Tour riders and most of the slowest MAMIL dentists in your local group rides. 😁
I thought the dentists were all busy playing PRS guitars.
@@MrScrofulous Of course they are, but that's only on the cloudy days...
Agreed, I thought the canyon or the cannondale were more handsome.
Bent mech hangers are way more common than you think. New bikes right out of the box will usually have a mech hanger that needs a bit of love. In the 10-speed days, you didn't really notice it as much because the tolerances for shifting were not as tight as they are today. not that it happens often but anytime shifting is off on my 12-speed, I break out the hangar tool first to check that alignment before I touch anything else.
Are you excited by this new tech advancement from Shimano? 👀
@@gcntech shimano?
Aw man... While the Dogma F is kind of a work of art, there's something about the Aeroad which I really like. The straight lines, the thicker seat stays, the way the seat tube follows the shape of the back wheel. The Aeroad is definitely my dream bike right now.
They are both great looking bikes! It's tough choice 👀
True, I'd take the Aeroad over the Dogma. Dogmas and Tarmacs are played out. I like the clean lines of the Aeroad as well, that's why I went with the BMC Team Machine SLR01 because of its clean lines.
You know that the Aeroad is an absolute shit show when comes to good engineering?! It is surely fast an aerodynamic, but the seat post design is a bad joke and creaky as hell and the headset and handlebar integration is just outright dangerous ...
I don't know why but this poll seemed to be hidden much of the time, I found it only a couple of times during the various rounds. I think people voted for the Dogma because it's a Pinarello and the long association with Ineos/Sky, rather than the model itself
My day can’t get any better: Ollie’s Ernie was spot-on. 🙌🏼
I feel like these desirable polls are mostly knowledge checks. If you are given a list of bike brands, but you only are familiar with one or two, you will vote for the ones you know. The end result is that only brands that are recognizable would win.
I'm deeply disappointed the Eurobike was not voted as 2023's Most Desirable Bike.
Hahahaha we are too!
It's not really available in the colonies, so it's disqualified.
You should look in MKBHD's last phone camera head-to-head. They took the same photo with a number of cameras then had a site where people could vote. The voting worked by showing two similar photos side by side and you chose which one you preferred. They then crunched the data using a sort of "Elo" system (like for chess) which then ranked each photo independently of others.
To do this with bikes you just put up photos of different bikes instead and then show two random bikes next to each other and the voter chooses which one they like more.
This has a benefit of stopping smaller brands from getting knocked out of competition because there is no bracket to be eliminated from. In the end the photo, or bike with the highest rating wins and you can have further insights into things like "highest vote disparity" and even "Elo per dollar" or "most divisive bike". One of the benefits of the Elo system is bikes that are well liked and voted on are impacted more by less popular bikes beating them out when head to head.
Thats what I thought as well. A far superior system
Ollie absolutely needs to replace Manon's rap with a Bert and Ernie comments of the week jingle 😂😂
Maybe I'm biased for canadians frames but Argon 18 are amazing and a good old Marinoni which are the most sublimes bikes ever (Mr Marinoni is a legend in Quebec cycling world and he learn his craft from Mario Rossin himself). At least there was a cervelo in the pool to reprensent our country.
I am in the market for a new bike this upcoming year. One factor I considered in picking Orbea is the documentary you did on the company. Learning that Orbea is an employee own company was a big factor in choosing the brand. Thank you for the great cycling context.
In response to the small brand competition: mass voting is going to be hugely influenced by brand recognition. Most of us know about some of the bespoke brands like Moots and I loved the video of Manon visiting the factory. How about a regular GCN tech segment highlighting some of these brands and their contributions to the sport? Onguza has a great story. Bastion, their engineers and their technology.
I got to ride the Trigon bike at the Taipei bike show and now I really want one! The bike is super nice to ride!
great to hear!
As a pinarello dogma f12 owner. i highly agree. best bike that always gets head turners.
Ollie you beat me to it - the Mythbusters golf ball car episode was epic! Loved the reference!
YES, LETS VOTE ON THE MORE CUSTOM/SMALL BATCH BIKES.
That last painting in the background was the image on a stamp from Ukraine to memorialize the brave soldier who told a Russian warship to go @#%# itself because the Ukrainians knew the ship was going to open fire on their position, and they were all expecting to die.
One thing that makes a brand (not necessarily a specific bike) is the brands stance on equal pay and amti-discrimination. Trek a few years ago bridged the gap in prize money for their women's team and because of that I find the brand so much more ethical and thus desirable.
I guess people love the Dogma F because it's aero + climbing bike combined. Most models have separate models and that splits the opinions on which bike is the best - some like aero shapes and the speed, while others want less weight and simple designs.
Oddly enough I rode a friend's Dogma F last night and wow, what a bike. I wasn't sure if Pinarello were overhyped or not but after last night, they're not.
i agree!
The threaded bottom bracket prevailed!!! Yaay
I called this 6 years ago! I built a Toray carbon fiber plant (supplying the auto industry [BMW] here) in Moore, SC and invited everyone I could talk to build bikes right here instead of Taiwan. Good job, Time! I want a job there.
Love my Dogma F12 myway… don’t like the price tag of $17k.
Dimpled frames? Wow, a potential Sunday Roast from Hambini! I can smell it cooking!
Concerning the massive chain rings. Ganna and others don't need those humongous chain rings, because they want the massive 70-11 gear. It's more so that they can avoid using the smaller cogs and therefore stay in the middle of the cassette and keep the chain in more of a straight line, thereby having better drivetrain efficiency.
Of course it only works well on flat routes, otherwise they'll die on the hills.
The 70 tooth chainring is for use on the track.
Bought a Dogma F for the looks, now loving it for the way it rides.
Massively fun show again guys! For bicycles and cars, the greatest emotional draw has to be visual appearance, such as the incomparable Jaguar E type (XK-E in N. America) and in bikes, the Pinarello Dogma F. The one category in don't hear much about is riding comfort. More than racing, I like a touring bicycle, one you can ride comfortably for several hours without discomfort or outright pain until you get to that wonderful coffee stop where you want to feel eager to get back on the bike.
You guys should have a feature on Etoe Designs. He does fantastic custom paint jobs!
No hanger is such a cool concept. Maybe it'll come to gravel bikes.
It's interesting Ollie
Ollie with the Mythbusters reference!!
Great video Ollie and James
Last one is Super NICE 😊
Honestly, and out of respect to the Pinarello Dogma, I have been in tears since my Cérvelo S5 was eliminated...
You also have a lot of British people in your Audience who still hold a soft spot for the dogma line thanks to Team Sky. Perhaps a primarily Belgian audience would vote differently?
Hey Ollie and Clive. That picture above the bianchi from the last entry on the bike vault is an iconic Ukrainian stamp honoring and depicting the defenders of Snake Island at the start of Russia’s invasion saying “Russian warship, go f*@k yourself!”
That Reilly Fusion Aero bike is still the nicest bike the bike vault has ever seen
I can't wait to see ideas for boutique brands. I'm dreaming and saving up for my forever(titanium) bike for my 20th anniversary (three and a half years) and haven't decided on the mfg yet. I would also like to see the most desirable bike in the working man's price range, $1,000-5,000. For most of us, those higher echelon race bikes are out of the question, and we don't want a bike payment higher than a car payment. 😂
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Hahaha we have arrived 💥 Couples that Tech together stay together!
Pinarello Dogma is not affordable for many wallets that is why it is the most desired.
It'd be good to mention the cog that Ganna is using with the 70t chainring. He's likely using a large cog to decrease chain articulation to increase efficiency. The drawback is higher aero drag.
Probably a 15 give him 125” gear
The most desirable bike in my brain is whatever has the best bang for your buck!
Great show Bert and Ernie!.
I agree also that's some photo!.…😂
Orlando and Ollie! 💪 Ollie is the best at pronouncing words from all over the world
Has to happen. Future GCN tech vid. Alex Dremels his groupset with some unique etchings 😅
The painting is an alternative illustration of the painting "Russian warship, go fuck yourself" by Boris Groh commemorating the Snake Island incident last year in Ukraine
No comparison, TIME Alpe d'Huez Made in Slovakia : ) The best technology, frame and quality.
Impressive hold: what hair product is Ollie using at the moment?
Giuseppe Alex! Love it! Too funny! :) Great job Bert and Ernie! LOL!
You should have polls not based on brands but price points:
Best bike under £1000
Best bike between £1k-£3k
Best bike over £4k
I can’t wait for Bertrand to start referring to himself in the third person 😂
Aurum, Open, Allied, would love to see these included.
Wouldn’t Egan’s 2019 win count for the dogma? It’s an F12. How different is it really to the new F? 😅
hahahaha.... Manon raps - WOW - made my day! Thank you! Good night:)
Interesting that the only time the Tarmac SL7 is mentioned is only in a negative light (using as a comparison for price even though the Dogma is even more expensive). It wasn’t even mentioned when referencing Evenepoel’s grand tour win. Seems like there’s a bias.
Great show Ollie amd Bob.
It should be the Scott Foil. That Pinarrello is weird af. Too much useless curves. Looks like its made of marshmallow
With a Cannondale and a Bianchi Oltre XR4 in the garage, I have to admit that I find my son's Cannondale far more comfortable on long rides and better in the wet with disc brakes, even if it is marginally slower than my celeste, rim brake, Italian princess. For me, the correct answer to the poll is to have two desirable bikes to choose from.
Bernal won the Tour on a Dogma F12. The current Dogma F was only released in 2021 I think, so Bernal's win still counts. Also, didn't Geraint Thomas and Chris Froome win on Dogmas with Team Sky? Maybe I'm misunderstanding what Ollie means...
Anyways, the Canyon is my pick. Cheers gents!
Hey, for us, Bertrand is a great name! In fact, Bertrand used to be a great frame builder in Trois-Rivières, province of Québec, Canada in the ''80-'90s. They featured custom fit and silver brazing. 😃
I’m only a few minutes in and every time I hear Oli’s voice I also hear Oli in my head saying “Start the fans, please.” It’s pretty great.
The Willier you superniced looked remarkably like the Eurobike
Observation: the last painting was not a battleship. It looked like a patrol vessel as best. Setting a BB on fire with a rifle would be kinda hard. 😊
Cheers. Makes me feel very fortunate to have a Pinarello.
Completely depends what you want in a bike. It’s like comparing Ferrari and Lexus. One is super exclusive, fast, an artistic marvel of engineering. The other is dependable, reliable, solid and never lets you down. Think Dogma F vs Caad13. 🤷
Great photo and painting show
I'm getting used to seeing these two host the show regularly again. Now if I can just remember their names. 😀
I wonder had Raleigh made an identical bike to the Pinarello Dogma F, if would been voted the most desirable bike in the World. I think the Pinarello winning was a totally predictable outcome.
Pinarello makes one sexy bike- of course it won. My 15 year old Pinarello is still very attractive!
Heroin bikes still available and they look stunning!!
Yes please! Boardman / Planet X / Ribble etc...
Giro 2021 was on Dogma F12, Dogma F was first raced in Tour de Suisse end of June... But anyway Dogma F is great, I have one and I love it!
No worries that it will win 3 years in a row....some made in Europe/England frame will get paired with Camp's new wireless group.
It would be really amazing if GCN could do a detailed scientific deep-dive into why exactly lycra bib-shorts cause all humans to have to go to the bathroom within the first and last five minutes of putting them on.
Need to have is most desirable endurance bike. Maybe it is my age but I am done with fast race bikes. I am in for comfort for long rides now. Roubaix and Synapse are my two road bikes I ride the most now. My crit bikes just collect dust with my cross bike.
The Pinarello Dogma F surely is a fantastic bike but I, personaly, would like a comparison with the smaller exclusive Italian brands.
It is not surprising that the two bikes that won the competition are also channel sponsors. By regularly watching the videos and thus those bikes, we are quite biased.
Most desirable other categories...gravel, tri, mtb
I'd love to see a smaller brand competition, genuinely desirable metal frames rather than the common carbon photocopies 👍
Dogma doesn’t appeal to me as either best looking or value (an attraction aspect) - Trek Madone, Scott Foil, Canyon Aeroad - maybe I just don’t like Italian mechanical 😅
Week 2 of asking for a 'The UCI has no jurisdiction here' T-shirt
Keep asking 🙌
@@gcntech It should be SOCKS, exactly 1cm too high to be legal
Predictable given GCNs almost weekly plugs for Pinarello and Canyon.
Alfi had exceptional bell skills during the bike vault segment. Nice job.
definitely want to see a most desirable bike competition for smaller/custom brands. I'm game for a third competition for brands using exotic materials (excludes aluminum, carbon fiber, and steel main tubes a.k.a - bamboo/titanium/magnesium/etc.) then a fourth competition for most desirable gravel bikes (aka - drop bar bikes that can handle a 35mm or larger tire size). Even more fun - a fifth competition for just those bikes ridden to victory in a grand tour, one day classic, world championship, or Olympic bike race (including individual bikes ridden during time trial and prolog stages). Of course that last one is a popularity contest but it identifies legendary bikes that have won races (One of my favorites - the Lotus 108).
Believe you can do small conpany bike pull easear and more reliable way. All bike smashed in one pull, but let choose 3, 4 or 5 of them instead of one. This way it easia to chose to voters, and you going to get verry clear picture, what bikes choosen more often.
P.S. There should be supernice picture of every presented bike, because of small amount of them going to be recognisable.
Love my Dogma !!!!!!
It's a great bike 💨
Pinarello is the LEAST desirable bike in my eyes! Horrible weird lines on the forks and frame. Each to their own I guess.
When it comes to most desirable bikes, DeRosas will always be up there. The Rolls Royce of bike brands.
Remco put so much effort in uploading his bike under a pseudonym! Now he is either crying or furiously coming to the Global Bike Festival to ride Ollie into the ground on the Großglockner. 😂
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I vote for round two for the most desirable bikes ( the little guys version )
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froome rode a pinarello to win lots and lots . thats why i dream of owning one .
I have a Derosa Sk pinafarina... I also have a Cervelo S5 Disc... If I had to enter any race or challenge my Derosa would be my bike of chice...
Please do a survey of custom-made bikes. My own bike is a Laverack Grit Titanium gravel bike made locally in the town of Oakham.
finally ollie is back
Pinarello sheesh what a shocker! LOL ... Now there is an Issue this is a desirable bike mainstream... and I hope the upcoming custom small brands come soon because I certainly prefer a custom over the dogma the system six or the Canyon.
Mech hangers are a sacrificial link between the frame and the mech. a big hit may damage the mech, will probably bend or snap the hanger, but is less likely to damage the frame. Having the hanger really strong and built into the mech may result in more damaged carbon frames.
Time bikes for America?? Hell yes my dudes! I can't wait...
The painting from the last bike vault entry is in reference to a couple events early on during Russia's invasion of Ukraine. A Ukrainian soldier on Snake Island responded "Russian warship, go fuck yourself" to a radio message from the ship shown in that painting. The Russians did take Snake Island but the Ukrainians took it back and that same ship was destroyed later on in the war.