Only half way through but it's a breath of fresh air to have somebody more talkative on these podcasts. Players have deep knowledge but the podcasts were mostly interviews with you asking questions and them answering with 2-3 words. I'm not sure how you managed to keep them 1h long tbh !
I played league for a little bit, it's fun but it felt pretty daunting with its experienced playerbase and smurfs etc. Deadlock feels like the perfect game, giving you a moba combined with a breath of fresh air. I also managed to convince my two friends who never played moba's to play it themselves ( they've been enjoying it ). Despite some balancing issues, the game is in a great direction.
on the replay discussion, i believe thorin and monte had a reasonable conspiracy of why riot doesn't want to do it. which is they won't add it bc players can check their games if they had cheaters, and thus displays kernel level anticheats are ass and do not work. also riot always boast how they don't have cheaters in valorant too.
@@Hornnnnnn just providing anecdotal evidence. Feel free to do your own research on the topic, I suspect you will come to the same conclusion. No need to be brash lol. Keeping believing what people tell you to believe
@@Ansee7 if you're actually interested, you should watch Unity Research's video on kernel anti-cheats. They are not as foolproof as Riot would have you believe.
I like this podcast about the scene. I am just now digging into the community as a content creator and love how Deadlock is growing. This is the first time I am joining a gaming community at its infant stage so this is super exciting.
Deadlock is so fun and the skill range is so vast. I’m decently high up in skill bracket by now and when I played with one of my friends who were pretty new I noticed the difficulty of the match was way easier. I was up 10k souls on everyone at 12 minutes and could just run around and get kills and overextend wherever I wanted since they didn’t punish properly. Then I did a solo Q match in my actual MMR and tried that once, got immediatly jumped by yamato, dynamo and wraith lol. Super fun game.
Schizug is one of those channels that you can tell is going to have hundreds of thousands of subscribers in a few years if he keeps putting out videos. He's so good at explaining concepts.
Admittedly my elo is probably not the highest, but I'm surprised Shiv wasn't mentioned as one of the stronger characters. I wonder if it's due to the lack of cc that makes it hard to initiate and roam against better players. Imo there's no weak point to his game otherwise, decent laning phase, good with or without farm. Incredibly good in 2-3 ppl skirmishes and as a secondary tank in larger teamfights where he can soak insane amounts of damage with Leech to drag the fight long enough to start executing with ult. Great damage too on the dash and gun. Would be interesting to know some drafting reasons behind this.
I've actually been playing Shiv in my 4 heroes (Paradox, Shiv, Haze, Wraith) and really love his kit. He is great for all the reasons you say, but I think VS someone like Abrams who also runs in, Shiv doesn't set others up as well until you start buying slows, knockdown, etc. Definitely one of my favorite heroes to oppress opponents with
He's a good character, but lacks some utility compared to the absolute best chars. Infernus for example can fill the damage role just as well, while also having the spirit sustain to live deep into fights and get finishes, but has the added utility of a aoe stun ult and area denial on his dash. Basically every char can be a big damage dealer, but not every char has strong built in utility. The absolute best chars have both
In terms of Deadlocks potential in eSportz, Valve might let this slip away from their hands if they dont take a more active role in its direction, IMO. The metaphor i came up with is that the theyve managed to pack the Stadium, but at the Stage sits an empty microphone. Its awesome it was able to get this big by word of mouth alone. But I question if the hype can sustain through this ambiguous "early access" phase of the game.
They cannot and shouldn’t launch with competitive or ranked… definitely should not. What makes an esport is that it’s causal at the ground level, like DOTA, CS and TF2. (Every valve game) let the competitive scene start itself THEN get valve involved.
@@raquetdude many games straight up die if ranked releases too late, and the amount of clickbait fake ranks going around more than suggest demand for the real thing
@@raquetdude We still have no clue when the games officially out tho, we need like any bit of communication instead of the (very well put together) patchnotes from a random dev named Yoshi. This isnt valves first Rodeo, they know how to do a comp MMR system. The player base can handle the changes to the system understanding how early in its lifecycle we're in. Look at Rainbow6, that game has gone through so much change to their ranked system and it hasnt directly scared off its player base.
Personally do not see this becoming a tier 1 esport. I don’t think the player base gets big enough to make it worth it and the over the shoulder experience with a large MOBA map isn’t really conducive to esports watching.
Yeah Dota dont have a meta like every other game has. If you wanted and was good enough you could play every character as a pos 1. Like the guy at T1 picked wisp a support for pos 1
To be a spectator sport it needs to be a casual game like football… for that it shouldn’t start with ranked. The best esport games started where competitive ranks were not a thing and the game wasn’t designed to be competitive.
@@raquetdude Yeah make a good game and if its good people wanna do tournaments, but a game can be fun for casuals but terrible to watch regularly like on a ogn broadcast
@@tenorenstrom both dota and cs franchises started out without an esports or ranked system, dont get me wrong there were allways try hards but i guess than it comes down to the definition of casual
@@synoxify Both those were mods for existing games so that’s hardly surprising nor applicable imo. Dota2 had ranked from the start right? Did CS not have ranked once it became its own game?
On watchability Overwatch was god awful to watch when that started competitive play… it was terrible. Lot of pros that had experience in hero shooters with a competitive scene (TF2 pros) said that if it wasn’t for the money and support they’d have stuck with TF2 even.
Valve even they make 10 failed games its fine because they are private company no board and investors demand revenue or insist woke agenda 😂 lastly most of theyre revenue comes from steam which generate billions in annual profits
Valve should NOT add ranked to Deadlock on launch nor first year. Have the community find the competitive rules first and then have Valve step in, the game needs to be casual first… DOTA and CS started as causal games. Valve WONT want to support a third competitive game given how they have already drifted away from competitive Dota Let it follow TF2 competitive path for a while and then have valve step in.
What a stupid comment. How do you think a thoroughly understood meta comes into existence? The game releases and Valve issues the official meta handbook? Games are understood through ideas and strategies being shared and picked apart, which is what is happening now and will continue to happen in the future regardless of an official release date.
I love this game. Haven’t been able to play for a week but I’m still thinking about it and watching content for it daily
I'm a 🎮 player all my life. Last 🐁 ⌨️ game I played was CS Source
Addicted I tell ya 😂 but it's refreshing AF
The only real audio based deadlock content I have atm. Appreciate it!
Dead Air has a deadlock podcast as well. But I need more content like this, im running out of podcasts for work lol.
Another great video from you about Deadlock! Looking forward to your next deadlock video!
Only half way through but it's a breath of fresh air to have somebody more talkative on these podcasts. Players have deep knowledge but the podcasts were mostly interviews with you asking questions and them answering with 2-3 words. I'm not sure how you managed to keep them 1h long tbh !
40 min in and just now I realized he's the guy from deathy's team lmao
edit: great episode, btw. Thank you for these
I played league for a little bit, it's fun but it felt pretty daunting with its experienced playerbase and smurfs etc. Deadlock feels like the perfect game, giving you a moba combined with a breath of fresh air. I also managed to convince my two friends who never played moba's to play it themselves ( they've been enjoying it ).
Despite some balancing issues, the game is in a great direction.
on the replay discussion, i believe thorin and monte had a reasonable conspiracy of why riot doesn't want to do it. which is they won't add it bc players can check their games if they had cheaters, and thus displays kernel level anticheats are ass and do not work. also riot always boast how they don't have cheaters in valorant too.
valorant essentially has no cheaters, I've played since beta and have run into less than 5
@@Ansee7 dont worry guys this guy says theres no cheaters, all good!
@@Hornnnnnn just providing anecdotal evidence. Feel free to do your own research on the topic, I suspect you will come to the same conclusion. No need to be brash lol. Keeping believing what people tell you to believe
@@Ansee7 if you're actually interested, you should watch Unity Research's video on kernel anti-cheats. They are not as foolproof as Riot would have you believe.
@@Ansee7 they have, but why even cheat in an easy game like lol valulrant
I like this podcast about the scene. I am just now digging into the community as a content creator and love how Deadlock is growing. This is the first time I am joining a gaming community at its infant stage so this is super exciting.
Valve doesnt need marketing. They have Steam (the Market).
True but they undoubtedly would dwarf Riot's games in player numbers if they start properly marketing their games
@@malif1279insane thing to assume
These are awesome. Thank you. Subscribed
I’m waiting on Maui to cover Pokémon Go. The people need it.
Deadlock is so fun and the skill range is so vast. I’m decently high up in skill bracket by now and when I played with one of my friends who were pretty new I noticed the difficulty of the match was way easier. I was up 10k souls on everyone at 12 minutes and could just run around and get kills and overextend wherever I wanted since they didn’t punish properly. Then I did a solo Q match in my actual MMR and tried that once, got immediatly jumped by yamato, dynamo and wraith lol. Super fun game.
Yall should check out Schizug. Definitely has the highest quality Deadlock breakdowns I've seen so far.
This 100% he has great vids
Schizug is one of those channels that you can tell is going to have hundreds of thousands of subscribers in a few years if he keeps putting out videos. He's so good at explaining concepts.
I trust Icefrog to do great things with this game. He is truly the best when it comes to game balance and design and it isnt even close.
Cs aura king
Can you link the 242 mcginnis video he referenced? Seems funny
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Admittedly my elo is probably not the highest, but I'm surprised Shiv wasn't mentioned as one of the stronger characters. I wonder if it's due to the lack of cc that makes it hard to initiate and roam against better players. Imo there's no weak point to his game otherwise, decent laning phase, good with or without farm. Incredibly good in 2-3 ppl skirmishes and as a secondary tank in larger teamfights where he can soak insane amounts of damage with Leech to drag the fight long enough to start executing with ult. Great damage too on the dash and gun. Would be interesting to know some drafting reasons behind this.
I've actually been playing Shiv in my 4 heroes (Paradox, Shiv, Haze, Wraith) and really love his kit. He is great for all the reasons you say, but I think VS someone like Abrams who also runs in, Shiv doesn't set others up as well until you start buying slows, knockdown, etc. Definitely one of my favorite heroes to oppress opponents with
He's a good character, but lacks some utility compared to the absolute best chars. Infernus for example can fill the damage role just as well, while also having the spirit sustain to live deep into fights and get finishes, but has the added utility of a aoe stun ult and area denial on his dash. Basically every char can be a big damage dealer, but not every char has strong built in utility. The absolute best chars have both
Sevens ult needs a rework so badly it’s actually useless in high mmr
League players with voice chat we are cooked boys
thanks maui
In terms of Deadlocks potential in eSportz, Valve might let this slip away from their hands if they dont take a more active role in its direction, IMO.
The metaphor i came up with is that the theyve managed to pack the Stadium, but at the Stage sits an empty microphone.
Its awesome it was able to get this big by word of mouth alone. But I question if the hype can sustain through this ambiguous "early access" phase of the game.
They cannot and shouldn’t launch with competitive or ranked… definitely should not.
What makes an esport is that it’s causal at the ground level, like DOTA, CS and TF2. (Every valve game) let the competitive scene start itself THEN get valve involved.
@@raquetdude many games straight up die if ranked releases too late, and the amount of clickbait fake ranks going around more than suggest demand for the real thing
@@raquetdude We still have no clue when the games officially out tho, we need like any bit of communication instead of the (very well put together) patchnotes from a random dev named Yoshi.
This isnt valves first Rodeo, they know how to do a comp MMR system. The player base can handle the changes to the system understanding how early in its lifecycle we're in. Look at Rainbow6, that game has gone through so much change to their ranked system and it hasnt directly scared off its player base.
Deadlock took away the resources that were meant to for CS, now they take maui too.
New characters 1 is too strong, he gets a use immediately but Wraith has to charge her first 1?
Much easier to listen to you then Deadair haha. They just yap about unfunny nonsense the whole time. Anyways thanks for making good content!
Personally do not see this becoming a tier 1 esport.
I don’t think the player base gets big enough to make it worth it and the over the shoulder experience with a large MOBA map isn’t really conducive to esports watching.
Yeah Dota dont have a meta like every other game has. If you wanted and was good enough you could play every character as a pos 1. Like the guy at T1 picked wisp a support for pos 1
Not an esports guy I just like counter strike.
Can it work as an spectator sport? Is it just not over watch as a spectator sport?
To be a spectator sport it needs to be a casual game like football… for that it shouldn’t start with ranked.
The best esport games started where competitive ranks were not a thing and the game wasn’t designed to be competitive.
@@raquetdude Yeah make a good game and if its good people wanna do tournaments, but a game can be fun for casuals but terrible to watch regularly like on a ogn broadcast
@@raquetdudewhich esport games started out as that? With only casual? Can’t think of any. Rocket league?
@@tenorenstrom both dota and cs franchises started out without an esports or ranked system, dont get me wrong there were allways try hards but i guess than it comes down to the definition of casual
@@synoxify Both those were mods for existing games so that’s hardly surprising nor applicable imo. Dota2 had ranked from the start right? Did CS not have ranked once it became its own game?
On watchability Overwatch was god awful to watch when that started competitive play… it was terrible.
Lot of pros that had experience in hero shooters with a competitive scene (TF2 pros) said that if it wasn’t for the money and support they’d have stuck with TF2 even.
Valve even they make 10 failed games its fine because they are private company no board and investors demand revenue or insist woke agenda 😂 lastly most of theyre revenue comes from steam which generate billions in annual profits
Valve should NOT add ranked to Deadlock on launch nor first year.
Have the community find the competitive rules first and then have Valve step in, the game needs to be casual first… DOTA and CS started as causal games.
Valve WONT want to support a third competitive game given how they have already drifted away from competitive Dota
Let it follow TF2 competitive path for a while and then have valve step in.
you can just adjust how ranked mode works based on community feedback, I don't get why that would be so problematic
Isn’t ranked mode pretty mandatory? I don’t see how anyone would play it seriously long term without ranked..
The game looks outdated as fuck and it's not even out yet.
Rtx off? 😂
Me when I dont understand how games r made:
I couldn’t give less of a fuck how it looks, it plays great and is actually fun.
It’s still wildly unfinished art wise wdym?
Its laughable to talk about meta and pro play in an alpha. Comedic.
Thankfully 30+ minutes of the interview are not about the meta.
They're talking and I'm not laughing
What a stupid comment. How do you think a thoroughly understood meta comes into existence? The game releases and Valve issues the official meta handbook? Games are understood through ideas and strategies being shared and picked apart, which is what is happening now and will continue to happen in the future regardless of an official release date.
Why?
Why? I tuned in to listen to just that. Meta changes in every game. In Deadlock it just changes faster.