Tim, impressive. But as you rightly point out, it is in practice, unproven. I can see your determination to succeed. And I suspect you will. It will be interesting to see the results. But, I don’t want you to push so hard, this must be a big project and I did not realise just what is involved. That said, the aim was for a drone to follow a model aircraft in flight as if it where a real dog fight. And to film it. I was a little surprised that you have gone much further! Now, I must admit that I am very impressed with your efforts. I have watched your video about four or five times, and I did not take in to consideration some of your points. What a challenge! I think you are on to something here. A model aircraft chasing another model aircraft is a very interesting and more over exciting prospect. You know, you could market this. So, my hopes are with you. If you want to chat, then you know how to reach me. I think this needs promotion. Very impressed.❤
Hi Tim, I’m working on building a vtol q-plane with a 10 motor Deca frame but my cube sends a message that it’s unsupported and there’s a config error, even though it’s a full parameter list option. Do you know if it’s a possible frame without any changes to the os code? Thanks!
It can technically do 10 motors, but only 8 (octa-quad) vertical motors + 2 forward motors. ardupilot.org/plane/docs/quadplane-frame-setup.html I'd really suggest you join the ArduPilot discord server for help with this kind of thing.
@@timtheplaneman I’ve asked on the AP discourse but didn’t get an answer, it’s strange you can only work with up to 8 vertical motors because the full parameter list offers q_frame_class 14 to be Deca -> 10 motors.
@@timtheplaneman I've configured frame_type to be 0/1 with frame_class = 14 but the MP receives a text message of "Config Error: Unsupported Q_FRAME_CLASS 14". It just doesn't make sense to me as the parameter 14 is clearly available and I've seen in the Arduplane GitHub OS code that DECA is supported with X or Plus frame types. What am I missing...
Very impressive and fascinating demo. Will be following progress. Side topic: See you're running Mission Planner with Dronekit SITL on MacOS. Did not realize this was possible, as have only seen on WindowsOS/Linux. Thought for MacOS, that qGroundControl was only Mission Planning option. Any references, resources you recommend for setting up the MP simulation environment?
I'm using mavproxy.py, all you need is python (I install using hombrew) in the demo, but Mission Planner also run on the Mac if you install the latest dev version from GitHub. I run the simulator using sim_vehicle.py on a locally compiled version of ardupilot from GitHub.
Thank you for the guidance. Found the "APM Planner" installer for MacOS, which appears might be different but similar to "Mission Planner". Also found documentation on "Setting up the Build Environment (MacOSX)". Planning spending time on this weekend.
im guessing the following plane is getting fly-to coords from the GCS (mission planner), since i didn't hear of any hardware in the planes? so, that would mean having a GCS that would MAINTAIN comms with both planes...if so, would latency of a 900mhz link be risky? - i guess it would depend on the speed of the planes...hmm, i wonder what a graph of airspeed vs link-latency would look like.
I've tested this using 2x HolyBrok Sik telemetry radios connecting the two planes directly to each other, but connecting via a GCS also works, just not as well.
Hi Tim, I hope you are doing well. Is there any chance that you are able to fly two planes with this mode. I am very excited about your work and I was wondering are you able to test it in real world since this video uploaded. Best
Tim, impressive. But as you rightly point out, it is in practice, unproven.
I can see your determination to succeed.
And I suspect you will.
It will be interesting to see the results.
But, I don’t want you to push so hard, this must be a big project and I did not realise just what is involved.
That said, the aim was for a drone to follow a model aircraft in flight as if it where a real dog fight. And to film it.
I was a little surprised that you have gone much further!
Now, I must admit that I am very impressed with your efforts.
I have watched your video about four or five times, and I did not take in to consideration some of your points.
What a challenge!
I think you are on to something here.
A model aircraft chasing another model aircraft is a very interesting and more over exciting prospect.
You know, you could market this.
So, my hopes are with you.
If you want to chat, then you know how to reach me.
I think this needs promotion.
Very impressed.❤
Thanks Nick, it's actually a lot of fun. I'm honestly a bit nervous about trying it on a couple of real please. Cheers mate.
@@timtheplaneman well, there is only one way to find out. I shall make an offering to the technical flying gods for you.
@@timtheplaneman You should at least have one pilot for every plane, that can take manual control of one plane
@@flyingBalsaPilot Of course! Safety first.
Hi Tim, I’m working on building a vtol q-plane with a 10 motor Deca frame but my cube sends a message that it’s unsupported and there’s a config error, even though it’s a full parameter list option. Do you know if it’s a possible frame without any changes to the os code? Thanks!
It can technically do 10 motors, but only 8 (octa-quad) vertical motors + 2 forward motors. ardupilot.org/plane/docs/quadplane-frame-setup.html I'd really suggest you join the ArduPilot discord server for help with this kind of thing.
@@timtheplaneman I’ve asked on the AP discourse but didn’t get an answer, it’s strange you can only work with up to 8 vertical motors because the full parameter list offers q_frame_class 14 to be Deca -> 10 motors.
@@bohman3634 Q_FRAME_TYPE should be either 0 or 1 which should work.
@@timtheplaneman I've configured frame_type to be 0/1 with frame_class = 14 but the MP receives a text message of "Config Error: Unsupported Q_FRAME_CLASS 14". It just doesn't make sense to me as the parameter 14 is clearly available and I've seen in the Arduplane GitHub OS code that DECA is supported with X or Plus frame types. What am I missing...
Very impressive and fascinating demo. Will be following progress.
Side topic: See you're running Mission Planner with Dronekit SITL on MacOS. Did not realize this was possible, as have only seen on WindowsOS/Linux. Thought for MacOS, that qGroundControl was only Mission Planning option. Any references, resources you recommend for setting up the MP simulation environment?
I'm using mavproxy.py, all you need is python (I install using hombrew) in the demo, but Mission Planner also run on the Mac if you install the latest dev version from GitHub. I run the simulator using sim_vehicle.py on a locally compiled version of ardupilot from GitHub.
Thank you for the guidance. Found the "APM Planner" installer for MacOS, which appears might be different but similar to "Mission Planner". Also found documentation on "Setting up the Build Environment (MacOSX)". Planning spending time on this weekend.
@@AerialWaviator APM planner is quite nice but also limited.
im guessing the following plane is getting fly-to coords from the GCS (mission planner), since i didn't hear of any hardware in the planes? so, that would mean having a GCS that would MAINTAIN comms with both planes...if so, would latency of a 900mhz link be risky? - i guess it would depend on the speed of the planes...hmm, i wonder what a graph of airspeed vs link-latency would look like.
I've tested this using 2x HolyBrok Sik telemetry radios connecting the two planes directly to each other, but connecting via a GCS also works, just not as well.
@@timtheplaneman oh! nice. where would i be able to find out how to do that? btw, i DO have an account on the ardupilot forum
@@DuaneGumpper That's a good place, but try the wiki, just search for Sik telemetry.
hi tim
where can i find prebuilt OS (Linux or windows or mac )with STIL , i want to do like what your doing but without the headache of instilling ✌
You'll have to wait until this PR gets accepted into ArduPilot "master" by the dev team. This might take a week or two.
Hi Tim, I hope you are doing well. Is there any chance that you are able to fly two planes with this mode. I am very excited about your work and I was wondering are you able to test it in real world since this video uploaded.
Best
Absolutely. I just tested it yesterday with 2 planes and it worked very, very well. I'm going to try to get a good video to post soon.
@@timtheplaneman I've just watched your video. Nice job Tim. Congrats!
@@serdarozdemir8788 Thanks for watching - more to come!
Great demo!
Thanks for watching!
I would like to see this on a fpv combat system (maybe it would be a little bit cheating)
That would be quite interesting for sure. When I publish the script you can try it ;-)
Amazing sir
I know right! Thanks for watching!
Excellent video 👍👍👍👍
Thanks mate. It's a lot of fun to fly!
Can you test it on real
World
It's in the works, I've had some bad weather lately, I'm hoping to fly it this week. Thanks for watching.
@@timtheplaneman I am interested in testing it on my Vtols as well. If possible, can I have your contact as I have some questions
@@hieuspirit sure email me at tim@objectivedata.com