The PROBLEM with Apple Airpods
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ธ.ค. 2022
- Apple Airpods revolutionized the way we listen to music by eliminating that supremely pesky wire constantly catching on drawer handles as you clean the kitchen. But for all the modern Airpod craze, we tend to overlook a minor detail: they’re literally trash.
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On the point of Apple making their products more repairable ( 8:53 ): You may thank the european union for that.
The EU is planning legislation known as "right to repair" in order to reduce trash. Apple and many others have changed their product design because it´s not viable to loose the european market or to establish two manufacturing lines. (Same thing with the Lightning Port to USB-C, Apple was forced to do so by EU-Legislation.)
Soft power for the win.
Although they might just ditch the port completely and go full wireless.
Yes! EU and California do more to protect consumers and environment, leading the way. We all just need to speak up to local representatives to do more or at least follow the leaders!
Consumer protection in the US is an absolute joke compared to the EU and other countries, e.g. Australia.
About the Lightning Port, it is likely Apple will switch entirely to MagSafe Charging and not give iPhones USB-C connectivity. They still have 2 years to create the ecosystem for MagSafe.
@@VladCristian77 I think you´re right about that. Apple will try everything they can to create a technological wall between their products and rival companies.
And the EU is aware of that-> they are already discussing about a standard for wireless chargers too.
Just imagine the wonderful world in which every phone is chargable with every charger. Pure bliss.
Levi: Spends 11 min complaining about Apple
Also Levi: I'm fully invested in the Apple ecosystem
What can ya do 😅 Using whatever tech you already have is always more sustainable than buying new!
@@FutureProofTV Hey I'm an Apple guy too! Just mixing it up in the comments a bit 😀
😂 I also love Apple but hate their headphones. 😂
Apple fanboys 😂😂😂
@@FutureProofTV That only holds true if you plan to switch brands later.
Not sure it's fair to call Onkyo a brand that no one ever heard of, they're extremely well established in the home audio market.
That's true, we should've clarified that they're way lesser known in comparison to the tech giant that is Apple - not that they're unknown entirely. Thanks!
@@julm7744 what are you even on
@@julm7744bro you buggin
@@julm7744 It's unheard of to you, not the entire country. Not sure what whitte is or how it's relevant to the discussion.
@@julm7744 I also never heard of them
The 18 months estimate is very surprising. My AirPods Pro’s are over 2 years old now and they work perfect, get about two days use before needing to charge
Same
Was very concerned when I heard the 18 mouth estimate bc i take great care of mine despite the fact that they were in a car accident shortly after I got them
Because it's a baseless claim, he simply says it's a "common estimate" without stating any source. I'm as critical of Apple as I can be, but this guy is just presenting some of his random opinions as claims (with an arrogant tone to boot). Amateur hour.
@@andreic2966 i went thru 3 pairs in a year. If you use them a lot they die in a few months. I work in a warehouse so i listen to podcasts and music during my shifts. I have went back to corded headphones bc they literally last forever and most of my coworkers had the same experience. If you use them daily they last like 6 months tops.
@@davidabest7195 i litteraly had my airpod pros in almost every single day for about 3 years, they didn’t go bad at all what are you talking about
Surprisingly, the wireless earbuds for me last much longer compared with the wired ones. Mainly due to the working out, the constant motion does destroys the wires either at the buds themselves or at the connector. Unfortunately, the earbuds with the replaceable wires didn't work either because sweat would get between the earbud and the wire causing corrosion within a couple of months.
You can buy cable protectors for your cables if you wear them fast. It's fairly cheap as well.
In the end there is a choice between TWS manufacturers and tech… AirPods 2s died after 2 years 2 months. Xiaomi Buds from 2019 still work after being dropped and cover broken.
@@aloneiplay26 I tried shrink wrap. They tend to last a little longer. However, since I do sweat more than most, the sweat tends to get into the wrap and starts to wear away the joints. Not to mention they do add excessive bulk which makes them noticeably more uncomfortable to wear.
@@BlueScreenOfDeathPL True. My go-to's these days are Sony TWS refurbished from eBay. They're significantly cheaper compared to new, and I usually use aftermarket memory foam eartips anyway.
buy a waterproof wireless earbud, they are not even that expensive, 50 USD would get you a decent one that would last for at least 2 years with warranty.
Most studio level headphones are repairable. Once the driver of my Audio Technica started failing I just bought a new driver and replaced it! Bonus: They sound amazing.
I'll admit, I derided air pods and other wireless earphones at first. However, since changing a few years ago, I couldn't imagine going back. It has been an excellent Innovation in earphones.
Same, I vividly remember the 2016 AirPods coming out and thinking they were impractical and looked a bit silly, but about a year later I got BeatsX (Which have the same W1 chip and probably the same drivers) and realised how convenient it is not needing to have a cable hanging around.
Over the years though, they broke at least twice and I had them replaced under warranty, but last month I gave up on them and decided to try AirPods Pro 2nd gen. I wasn't into them at first but now I've realised why they're so damn good. But I definitely wouldn't get standard AirPods, the noise cancellation and transparency is a must for me now.
Ok Tim cook
@@accountnumberone to be fair I use the Boltune ones and they're great
@crinacle+ has a rating of TWS earbuds by sound quality. Most of those not made by Samsung or Apple are not good.
@@p_serdiuk yep I watched Crinacle's video and he gives it a very high rating for wireless buds, second highest behind the Samsung ones. And a lot of reviewers have talked about how good the transparency is, and that it sounds a lot more realistic than most buds. At the end of the day the quality still isn't going to be as good as wired earbuds, it's the convenience you're getting.
Not gonna lie, the 18-month life expectancy surprised me. I bought the original AirPods in late 2016 and only a couple months ago did the lithium-ion battery degrade to the point of not holding a charge longer than an hour. I'd considered my 6 years to be pretty good and was quick to buy new AirPods to replace them when I got them on sale for $80. I've tried so many earbuds over the years and could never find ones that fit comfortably in my ears (including the original EarPods they used to give with iPhones/iPods).
I think it includes everything else that can go wrong with them. eg, losing them, getting destroyed etc. The _average_ lifespan is 18 months.
this is why i will never buy wireless earbuds ever again, i bought the first generation airpods and the left earbud suddenly wont charge, i had them less than 6 months.
@@Eliasu1150 there's a thing called warranty. Btw, some gunk must have gotten in the pins. Clean them and you're good
@@AJ-wf1vhi got a full refund btw 😁, its all clean, it must be a manufacturing defect.
mine lasted approx 3 years and still held about 1.5hours, gave them to a friend and they’re serving him well
I find it funny that you mention not buying wireless earphones at all due to them wearing down faster. I switched tó wireless precisely because of that. My wired earbuds used to break every couple of months, didn't matter if I bought cheap or expensive ones. The wire itself just broke because they were always in my pocket, or because it caught on something and it was janked out.
Now I have wireless my first set lasted 2 years, (which was a cheap set and not that high quality so Im actually surprised they lasted that long) and only broke because I dropped the case on the street in an awkward way once. Now I have a new set from House of Marley which keeps sustainability in mind (not so much repairability yet though), and I absolutely love them: both the case and earphones are sturdy, which is perfect for me because everything my hands touch has to fall at least once a day.
Same, every single time I have wired earphones they don't last longer than a week and a half, the Xiaomi airbuds I've had since 2019 had not only lasted me longer than any other wired headphone but are also more comfortable to wear since I don't have to be conscious about every move because of a cable, the only thing that annoys me is that they use micro USB instead of USB C and I don't use micro USB anymore
You can get wireless earbuds with removable wires.
There are IEMs that has detachable cables and besides, if you truly know your stuff. Expensive IEMs are quite an investment since their stock cables are built to last as well.
I have my Sony IER-M9 for over 5 years now and they still hold up. I still used their stock cables because it is that tough. And oh, the sound quality is still one of the best around.
Honestly, same
The wire tends to be the weakest part of any earphones, but if you ever want to go back wired, I highly encourage you to get ones with detachable cables, makes it easier to repair the cables should they break
Detachable cables on the expensive ones are the saving grace
Let’s give Dankpods some credit for mentioning the unsustainable nature of Bluetooth buds in every bluetooth bud review.
Let’s also give him credit for being an audiophile but understanding what AirPods are for: the convenience!
Nice to see another DankPods connoisseur in the wild
Onkyo is quite a well-known brand and their products are fairly good. And it is said by someone without much interest in audio or technology in general. Of course, if you ask someone who buys an overpriced phone because looks "nice", show status and don't want to be left out, they'd hardly know what it was.
That's true, we should've clarified that they're way lesser known in comparison to the tech giant that is Apple - not that they're unknown entirely. Thanks!
@suicidebxmber ----- Is quite a well-known brand? No, actually it was. They were delisted from the Tokyo Stock Exchange in 2021 with a negative net worth. And they declared bankruptcy in 2022 and liquidated. Ooops.
@@bruxi78230Getting bankrupt has nothing to do with being well-known though, Kodak went bankrupt but everyone heard of that brand at some point.
I finally broke down last year and bought a pair of off brand ear pods. Spent $17. One of the best purchases I've ever made.
10:14 Gotta love the typical red-tailed hawk audio clip to represent the bald eagle 😂😂😂
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I got mine for free for renewing a apartment lease in college. They are still going strong 3 years later. As with literally anything depends how you USE IT and TREAT IT!
These are an improvement over the 1st gen buds. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxK5mc3yw4xA7Mf2j6k6n1Uqv_KUgrKdeM Pros: The fit is fantastic. This is the biggest plus. They stay in my ears when running and become unnoticeable. They are tight but comfortable. The sound quality is about the same as the 1st gen buds. They pair more easily with my LG G8 ThinQ and immediately reconnect when removed from the case. The sound balance is excellent, good but not overpowering base and clean mid tones and highs.Cons: The noise cancellation is good but perhaps a little less effective than the Bose ANC on the 1st gen buds. Passthrough mode as not as good as the 1st gen buds making it a little more difficult to hear conversations when in passthrough.
Levi, buddy, any bluetooth device seamlessly connects with other bluetooth devices. That whole sense of only Apple products working together easily and you have to commit in full or not at all is a relic of the early 2000s with Apple desktops were totally incompatible with tons of software.
My 2020 AirPod pros have about a 2.5 hour battery life left on them and the volume difference with the newest gen is significant. Ended up buying a newer pair and I alternate between both. I use them daily for about 8 hours in total. First pair was a gift but if I have to replace them every 18 months Apple has a good way of getting constant revenue off this.
That's the point, scamming your customers for constant revenue by trapping them into your ecosystem
I used my 1st gen pros for about 12-14 months between each warranty exchange (noise cancellation failure). Just bought the 2nd gens last month and love them. Hopefully they’re good for a while 🤷♂️
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"A japanese company that nobody heard of", and right after that you show Onkyo. The audio guys will slaughter you 😆 This is a company very well respected for HI-Fi audio products.
Hahhaha yeah we set ourselves up for some backlash there for sure... but we're learning. Aaaaand may or may not have videos coming out in the future about over ear headphones , vinyl, and other HiFi audio projects. So stay tuned!
I‘ve had my airpods (original model) for 5 years and they still work well. The batteriy is not as strong of course but still usable. The only thing that somehow seems to degrade is the sensor. It no longer detects as well when my airpods are in my ear and will often continue playing when I take them out and put them down on a surface.
Hahahahaha
@@shredder_tubeyou can laugh but I’ve had mine for almost six years now lol
Can confirm over 5 years still good. Tought the battery life is terrible maybe an hour max
I’ve had my Koss KSC75 headphones for the Gym for 5 years now. My other pair prior to that still works fine too.
Great watch. I think my only gripe with airpods was their pricing. It's one of those things where you can find much better value for money alternatives on the market but because something has the apple branding attached to it and that ecosystem guarantee it ends up meaning people are willing to pay more for it. Which credit to them is what comes when you've established a brand. Kind of like with expensive clothing where people are willing to buy something at 3x the price because it has a specific brand stitching on it even though it's probably made in the same factories as the cheaper alternative.
I've had a pair of aiaiai from like 8 years ago and they were fantastic. My headband broke like 3 years after having them and they replaced them even though I bought mine off eBay. I don't use them much now since I moved to the Bose 700s for wireless though.
Apple Airpods may look appealing in terms of design, however there's always a possibility that there could be other wireless earphones brands that are far better in terms of overall structure. We appreciate your dedication and effort. May God bless you.
aka apple copies
There aren't really, though
I disagree
the design is the reason I've never gotten one
the ugly stem sticks out horribly
I've always used some Samsung bud as my earbuds
There already better ones you just an apple
Lover
@@icemeoutlikeelsa what did apple copy for their AirPods? I really want to know
I have airpod pros which are great for their size and "transparency" setting. But my Bose quiet comfort 35 are still going strong after 5 years. Plus they come with a cord when you want better sound quality or the ability to listen on an airplane.
My bowers & wilkins, and bang & olufsen headphones sound as good wireless as they do wired to my actual soundcard in my pc. Bet they both sound superior anyway
I've had my beats solo 3 for about 5 years now. They have gone thru 2 cushion pad replacements (I use them for working out) and still going strong! Battery still last for about 35ish hours before they need a charge.
I just wish that everyone wasn't losing the jack. I have used wireless, and they are fussy and die fast for the price. I am on an old android because I love that I can still use an SD card and that I also have a phone jack. I will try my best to buy a new "old" phone when I am ready for my next phone.
I've had the AirPods Pro 1st generation since 2020 & they still work. I'm using them right now to listen to this video. I also got the second gen AirPods Pro because of the new features it has
I used to replace my earbuds every year because I store them in my pocket and they always ended up failing in the point between the cable and the minijack. I just replaced my firsts wireless earbuds (from jabra) and they have lasted me 4 years.
Detachable cable in ears exist. They sound better than AirPods for a fraction of the price, and you can replace the $15 cable if it breaks. A $20 set like the 7hz Salnotes zero, sounds better than AirPods too.
@@jonasharp3 Yup, and cables are getting cheaper each day thanks to the steady increase in popularity IEMs are receiving. I recently bought some cables from Linsoul for only $10 each and they even have an in-line mic.
A friend of mine eventually got sick of replacing lost Airpods and decided to get the full size model. I have a pair of Skullcandy Indy Evo buds that I use to work out and for stuff like that, they're a great alternative to the Airpods. Had them for around two years now and still work fine. But I gotta admit that wired will take my vote every single time I can use it. My new JBL's have a breakaway cord that I assume can be easily replaced, but they do have all the newest stuff like voice commands and noise cancelling. Another thing that needs to be emphasized is simply taking care of your stuff better so that it lasts.
Currently at 14 months of use with 5-6 hours a day usage. Still working perfect and holding charge. (Regular AirPods 2nd gen)
I've been using my airpod pro for about 3 years (bought it in covid time), still works fine and I am quite surprise tbh.
Just like most people I though I will never use wireless earphones because of the audio quality but not gonna lie i don't think i am able to go back.
I LOVE how you mentioned the initial reaction of airpods being “ugly”. I feel like EVERYONE forgot about the millions of memes and jokes before everyone got on the bandwagon. The only reason people started buying them was because of Apple taking away the headphone jack.
I only bought one pair of airpods. Within the first year Ive had each ear pod replaced at least once. About a year after the warranty ran out I stopped using them because the battery life diminished ridiculously and I had connectivity issues (which is why I got them replaced to begin with). Ive just come to the conclusion that airpods are made to be replaced. Id rather use wired headphones. They can last forever if you take care of them and are cheap to replace.
The reason why the AirPods are so “ugly” is because they were designed to actually fit into human ears. That’s the point of AirPods design. No matter how much u meme them, they will always be an ergonomic headphone design
Airpods are more comfortable to use than any other earphones I’ve used.
My ears always refuse to hold onto earbuds, but never has a shape been as quickly yeeted away from my ear canals as the shape of air pods (I tried android compatible knockoffs that were the exact same shape and size). I now have galaxy buds and they're the best fitting ear buds I've ever had, which is to say they're only actively falling out like 1/4 of the time or less
@@mrsoisauce9017 They don't even fit into the ear canal, they're not ergonomic. They're gonna fall out with a slight bump and are hella easy to lose if you aren't careful, not to mention their sound is atrocious. There's no tips of any kind except on the Pros to enhance passive noise canceling because once again, _they only fit on the outside of your ears._ I don't want to crank my volume to the max just to drown out some bus noise that I can easily just ignore by putting in even a cheap set of buds with silicone tips into my ears.
I have had Jabra elite 65T bluetooth buds for about 4 years now and they're still working like when I bought them. Can certainly recommend!
Bought my AirPods Pro in 2020 and they’re still with me 3 years later. I’ve lost them, dropped them, and much more. They’re still working great
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As someone who has used many wired, wireless and true wireless headphones, normal non modular wired headphones have the shortest life, usually because of the cord, but that's not the easiest repair if your 3.5mm plug breaks or wears out. Now my mid price 20-100$ Bluetooth headphones history, totally fine. Normal issues of stuff getting broken or lost but not so much that it's really a problem.
I used to have a pair that connected with an aux cord, which i think really helped with that, as the cord was replaceable
18 months!! Bought my gen 2 AirPods in August 2019 and they still work after 4 years and 5 months and only one of the microphones has issues so I have the microphone set to the AirPod that works well. It all comes down to taking good care of your tech!
My charging case stopped working and I’m not buying another pair. I’ve also gotten annoyed with my iPhone because it’s ridiculous that I have to Pay for storage. Going back to android next year.
For wireless earphones, I got rayons a couple years ago. At first, I was skeptical cause they mostly do their product marketing online. After a couple years they still work perfectly and I definitely abuse them.
Raycons are trash as are non-pro airpods. Plenty of great options available without breaking the bank. Just requires a little research
Where do you found the « airpods batteries last 18 month » info ?
I have mine for 2 years and the battery seem to be in good shape, and they worked seemlessly since I bought them.
I have a pair of Marley's Positive Vibrator XLs, and have used them daily for 2+ years, battery still lasts 3 days of almost constant use, and they connect super fast to my Android and my laptops
Ive been using the same pair of wireless Motorola Vervebuds for like three years now and they're still going strong.
I loved that we got wireless earphones, but my gosh do I miss the original design of a simple earphone.
There’s an option …apple does sell an adapter that allows you to use in regular headphones into your iPad iPhone etc..been using one for a couple of years , works well
Yep, that's what my family uses instead of the airpods as well.
There are some aftermarket that allow you to charge and use headphones at the same time
Also it’s a very good product (featuring a digital to analog converter and ampilification powered by the phone) for under 10 bucks. Many hifi types say it sounds better than the old headphone jacks.
It's one more thing you have to buy and carry. I can promise you, nobody has ever looked at an iPhone and said: Damn! If only this was thinner! They removed the jack to sell you AirPods and adapters.
I have AirPods Pro, and max but honestly I’ve been using wired more and more. The budget wired in ear market has been popping off lately, and I literally have a $80 set that sounds better than both of the wireless offerings from apple. I still use both those wireless sets, but not nearly as much as when I first picked them up.
Airpods pros are ironically the better deal since airpods are such a ripoff but I agree. Soundcore, Edifier, Samsung, and 1More flagships destroy Airpod pros for less than the cost of standard airpods. I could name 100 earbuds that are better than the airpods for less than $50. Airpods have call quality and that's about it. Airpod pros have great ANC but still don't justify the price tag. If you want top of the line ANC along w sound quality that puts airpods to shame, check out the flagship offerings from Sony, Bose, Technics, 1More, and Sennheiser. All are better than Airpod pros in every single category.
I’ve had the same pair or airpod pros for the last 4 years. Only downside to them is that they make a clicking sound when I use the noise canceling or the outside noise feature but they’ve done that since I took them out of the box. Other than that I’ve had zero issues. These are the only brand I’ve ever used that I haven’t had to replace before the 1 year mark.
I can’t imagine ever using a different brand. They just work so well with your phone especially with them able to read out your notifications.
I get what you are saying but I still have my Gen 1 air pods. Used them for years all day at work and now I just use them occasionally. I plan on getting the batteries changed on them soon. I also have a pair of power Beats Pro and love them as well. I love not being tethered to my device. Not having cords is amazing. Also, I love not having a headphone Jack and having a waterproof phone. I can wash it under the sink. I can take it in the pool or river and not worry about it. I also take care of my things and never broken a screen and have been using iPhone since iPhone 4. I think it is great that apple has battery service. I also have a 2012 MacBook Pro and have upgraded ram and ssd drive and it is STILL my main computer. They make great products that last. That is why i buy apple.
What makes AirPods Pro the best is the software integrations with the ecosystem. Best in the market and will be until someone can match that level of integration. Otherwise all the other headphones will stay in second place.
@@madisonm2878 there is no perspective. AirPods were designed for Apple Ecosystem. Android was an after thought.
I’ve had the original AirPod pros since the day they came out and mine still function great. Maybe a little tempermental at times but works awesome. I had the OG AirPods and left them at the library and they got stolen but this is my second pair and I will definitely be upgrading
It's true that the wires break pretty easily on cheap wired earbuds, but they are also simple to repair. I have an old pair that I kept fixing. Shorten the wires a bit and resolder them on. Eventually I got tired of it and used some heat shrink tubing to make a strain relief. Apple led the way in making cables without proper strain relief because they 'look cleaner'.
I fixed an old magsafe cord for a friend which broke because the connector is just box with a wire coming from it, the only strain relief is a 1/4" long bit of plastic tubing. I had to saw the damn thing apart to be able to resolder the connections. I glued it back together and used white heat-shrink to hide the repair, add strain relief and make it look clean. The next week he bought a brand new one with the same design flaw. It was a bit of a slap in the face.
In my experience, wired headphones die super fast compared to wireless since the wire itself seems to break easily. Maybe the whole modularity thing is the solution for that I guess...or maybe I'm just too violent with my headphones haha
You’re comparing cheaply made earbuds with expensive true wireless. There’s a whole market of in ears with detachable cables, that you won’t have that problems with. Check out the 7hz Salnotes zero for $20. You’ll be blown away at what a budget hifi IEM can do. They sound better than AirPods, and with a replaceable cable, they’ll last you forever.
Another option is KZ ZSN Pro. You can get under $20 US from Amazon but if you're willing to wait a few weeks you can get them for $10 US or less from Ali Express when they have sales. I got them on a recommendation from DankPods and love them. Sure, there is the proprietary connector for the buds and cable that stinks, but the audio quality is great and the cables come in a lot of different styles and colors so you don't have to sacrifice aesthetics for modularity!
You can't compare $3 supermarket earbuds with something that costs like 80 times the price. Have you ever tried investing good money into an actually good wired headphone?
@@Some-guy-on-the-internet Obviously not, these guys are the same that used to buy back in the day 80$ Android phones and then bought a 900$ iPhone and were like "whoa, iPhone rocks, Android sucks big time!!!"
@@RaduRadonys Oh boy, that brings back memories from school. I actually knew some people who did exactly that.
I got a pair of over ear wired ATH-M50X’s in 2018 on clearance at Walmart for $30 because they were the 2017 model. I sold them last month for $45 with the original cable, still working perfectly, albeit heavily used and the foam showed it. Definitely going with another wired pair after having my AirPods Pro last 2 years before only holding a charge for a half hour now. Any recommendations? I’m looking to stay under 300 as much as possible
Beyerdynamic dt770 pro/pro x
I recommend the Sennheiser HD 599's. I've been using them extremely heavily for about 4 years, and according to their website they are about $200 before tax.
I am looking at the BGVP Q2S. It's a brand I never heard of, but the reviews seem OK. They are wireless but have a MMCX connector so when the battery dies, they just become regular in-ear headphones
There are so many choices out there I personally use pixels buds they've been rock solid
As someone who is neurodiverse, I cannot live without my noise-cancelling AirPods Pro.
I used to make fun of Air Pods when they first came out because I didn't understand the hype and tbh the 1st generation really wasn't that great as the sound would spill out and people could hear what you're listening to when sitting next to you (no thank you). However, since getting my AirPods Pro as a gift 2 years ago I honestly couldn't imagine myself using anything else, hopefully, they will last me a long time. Before I was a Marshal wired over-ear user but after a couple of hours they would hurt my ears and were not great for working out. The one thing I don't agree with when it comes to Apple is their lack of repairability for their accessories and the high price tag....
This is infuriating. I recently pulled out my old Koss Porta pro headphones, bought some replacement foam ear pads, and a lightning connector adaptor, and they still work!
i find it so interesting that they were announced all the way back in 2007 in that original iPhone presentation. yet it took another 9 years for the first gen model to come out.
6:30 Headphones do have moving parts. The moving diaphragm in them is what makes the sound in the first place.
2:11 Don't forget that Apple owns Beats.
Oooooh trust us.... We're well aware and may or may not have a video coming up about that specific company in the next few months 👀👀
I was pretty proud of getting nearly 3 years from my original AirPods Pro. The batteries weren’t the issue, it was a hardware problem that makes them unusable for phone calls and the ANC is clicky, but I still keep them around as a backup or for when I’m in the outdoors.
I use the lg hbs-fn6 daily, they sound good, amazing ambient sound. I've had them for over a year, I dropped them a month into having them and had to superglue them back together but besides that, never lost this pair, they wireless charge, battery has literally never died on me, albeit during long work days, I only wear one, and swap when it dies.
I will say I have had the same pair of AirPods for four years and I use them all the time. The main thing you have to worry about it losing them since it’s pretty easy to, but other than that I would say they’re worth it
A lot of factual inaccuracies in this video:
- They did not make the wired headphones obsolete be removing the headphone jack. For quite some time they included an adapter so you could use your old headphones (just not when charging). And even if they are not doing that anymore, they sell the adapter at a fantastic value (just ask the audiophile community).
True wireless earbuds killed wired headphones because of how convenient they are.
- Of course AirPods are more expensive than the old headphones. They include a lot more technology and are way more expensive to make. Look at todays competition, how many companies makes better headphones than Apple at the same price or less?
Sure, you can get crappier headphones for cheap. But relative to their quality, they are not that expensive.
- Apples largest consumerbase are people buying an iPhone and some AirPods. Sure, it isn’t the cheapest brand. But it is pretty much on par with competition such as Samsung.
People spending thousands of dollars on Mac Pro’s and stuff only seem common if you hang around popular TH-camrs who make a crapton of money.
- Making things repairable is awesome. But if you want the thinnest bezels, smallest headphones, watertight phones etc it is really hard to make. Can Apple do better? Absolutely. But to call it “planned obsolescence” is not entirely fair either. If you want your stuff repairable, you have to make some concessions. Maybe start by caring for your stuff instead. I average 4-5 years between phone purchases and my AirPods are still working after 4 years. Why are my Apple products working so much better than everybody elses?
Are Apple part of the e-waste problem? Absolutely. Do they do enough to mitigate it? Definitely not.
But they actually support their devices longer than much of the competition.
In my opinion, they worst offenders in tech are those who race to the bottom. The whole trend of buying crap because it’s cheap has to go. Spend your money on a few thing you really want and take care of them instead.
I usually really like your channel. I try to buy quality, environmentally friendly things that last and I think you usually push this message. This video felt like the “bash Apple for clicks” crap that tech youtubers love.
The problems that are pointed out in this video are hardly unique to Apple. The video begins by comparing Apple to other wireless earbud brands but the problems mentioned are a result of features demanded by consumers, not because Apple is being malicious in their quest for money. That is an intention trusted upon Apple without a whole lot of supporting evidence and compare and contrast with competitors.
I don’t get why he is acting like it is just apple that removed the headphone jack
Wired headphones have the shortest lifespan with me, I always end up getting the cord caught on something. On top of that the shape of apple’s earbuds, being the smooth rounded pebble shape, in my experience, are the only design that actually sit in my ear properly. I wasn’t fully convinced in purchasing them but after throwing away so many over the ear headphones and corded earbuds, it literally was the most sense for me. I am also so happy that if I lose an earbud I can use the app to track it down 😂
at 2:30 Onkyo is a massive Japanese audio company, the makers of the first true wireless headphones, they are most known in the Home A/V Space, they also own Pioneer Audio. their revenue is around 500 Million dollars
I had first airpods in 2018 and I still use them regularly (had to switch batteries in the headphones, but not in the case)
Wrong. After the headphone jack was removed, iPhones still came with earpods but with a lightning connector.
I've had really good luck with Apple products so I normally skip AppleCare. But when I got airpods for my daughter I made sure to buy the $30 AppleCare because I knew full well that the batteries would be worthless before AppleCare expired. And we found ourselves in that case recently and she got new Airpods for "free".
I find this really interesting! I am planning to get the AirPods Pro 2, and this video has me considering AppleCare+ for the device. Would I really be able to replace the batteries for free or is there only a discount like with other repairs?
@@krill_inksanity Based on my experience, if you have any problem with the airpods during the applecare time span, they'll just hand you new airpods.
I literally accidently put them in the washing machine when they were in my trousers. They survived and still work perfectly. Airpods are great if you are outside or something else. I only really use them when I am doing something outside of using my pc.
Oh god when it comes to headphones reparibility I have so much to say. On one hand I do love the convenience of true wireless headphones but at the same traditional headphones can just be so god damned durable (minus the earpads, that's a whole different conversation). My Sennheiser HD 25 has been with me for 5 years. I used it every single day and it's still work as fine as I first got it. Really wish that true wireless headphones can have the same durability.
I've got A Sennheiser 599 that I've had for almost as long, and it's nearly as good as new.
I used to use the old wired earbuds with the little dongle attachment to listen to music at work and tbh the wired headphones are not very durable to wear and tear. I was buying 2-3 dongles per year and had to replace the buds every 6ish months. I also thought the airpods were silly. Now that I have my airpods( recieved them for free with my macbook) I have one pair that has worked perfectly for the last 3 years. Admittedly they are perfect for my needs.
Before I switched to my apple phone (when my first smart phone just died) I enjoyed the galaxy buds with their active noise cancellation, I could shoot pistols comfortably like I was wearing hearing protection (not rifles though)
My one complaint was one slipped out of my ear and got shot out of a lawnmower so I got some that are apple compatible and have the ear wrap around bit.
My 2019 Pro’s are still rocking just fine. The right one even went through a wash and dryer cycle during Covid haha
When it comes to phones, I wouldn't mind wireless headphones if we were given more of a choice on whether to listen wirelessly or not, but most phone manufacturers are ditching the headphone jack for no other reason but to shill their wireless buds. In addition, as you said, repairing them and replacing the battery is a nightmare, not something that your average consumer could pull off easily. Personally I have a pair of IEMs with a replaceable cable which allows for easy repairs and not having to throw the whole thing out if the cable goes bad. However, you can get a dongle but that's just another layer of inconvenience and who knows if that specific dongle is compatible with your phone or if its DAC is even decent enough. If the DAC is good enough it'll most likely cost more so losing/breaking it will be even worse. In general, going wireless isn't a bad thing but the push for wireless only products and lack of repairability is.
We wholeheartedly agree here, the issue is that these companies (looking at you, Apple) manipulate the market by eliminating options and making their consumer's lives more difficult under the guise of convenience. More money for them and more hassle for us seems to be the standard nowadays!
IEMs can be fed by a line level. You essentially don't need a DAC. Anything with a good noise floor will give good performance
Also, those replaceable wires might look environmentally friendly but I'd bet the copper in them rivals what's in the airpods
In any case, your fridge, car, stereo, computer, toaster or any other sort of electronic each contain more ewaste than all the wireless earbuds you're going to use in your lifetime.
Not to mention that even cheap wireless earbuds can last for years, wereas I've never had a wired pair last me more than a few months. Except the one I used on the computer. And my phone headphone jacks were beginning to wear out
The new “find my” feature on the AirPods Pro is a game changer that no other company can compete with yet. It doesn’t matter if I lose them, my phone will perfectly guide me to them every time
I’ve gone through three pairs of the damn things. The first pair became useless when I lost one of the buds, the second when the case fell out of my pocket, popped open, and launched both buds onto a goddamn sewer grate. The third pair was used from a friend, and they were barely audible when turned all the way up, so I ended up sticking them in a drawer.
Check out some budget wired in ear monitors, like the 7hz Salnotes zero, or kiwi ears cadenza. They’re like $20 a set, have a detachable cable, and sound better. I sound like a shill lol, but honestly this style of earphone has rekindled my love for music.
Im unsure if I agree with the 18 month maybe it just depends on the user but I bought mine early 2018 and they are still working fine have no problems with sound. Granted the battery probably isnt what it use to be but it gets the job done for a couple hours whenever I wanna listen to something. Pretty good investment for headphones
Nice video! For me, the most sustainable classic professional cable-headphone is the entirely modular "Sennheiser HD-25". You will see them on Pro-DJs, Cameramen, Jet-Pilots etc. I got mine since over 20 years in everyday use and until now I only had to replace the cable and the earcups. They sound excellent and are only around 150$/€. More videos on audio stuff on my channel! 🍀
Modularity is definitely the way to go. That's a reasonable price for a piece of tech that will last you so long!
@@FutureProofTV I own audio stuff that is over 50 years old and that can still be repaired without any problems. But normally it works. And this is why those things still have value even in professional use. This is also reason why vintage gear is so saught after in the music production scene.
Sennheiser kinda has a good reputation for the repairability and moddability of their headphones. I just had mine repaired for a loose jack.
You are speaking about two different types of headphones. Wired over the ear headphones will always give off a better sound and more reliable than there other counterparts.
Sennheiser HD600 is the same in modularity. A model released in 1996 and still a benchmark for headphone enthusiasts.
They might be almost worth it if they would stay in your ears when you move 10° past vertical when walking. There are better options out there for people willing to manually pair a set of Bluetooth earbuds.
They always stay in my ears no matter what even while working out so
I have a crappy pair that cost 30 bucks and work pretty well. I use them in the gym and they stay in just fine. When I lay down on the bench the seal is broken slightly and allows in gym sound but that is the only issue I have had with their fit
I haven't looked at the AIAIAI catalog... but you showed an "on ear" headphone... DJs and Sound Techs use "around ear" headphones to block out ambient noise.
I still have the first gen airpods. I made a swap with podswap a year ago and they’re as good as new. Now I bought the pros but I use both. Have lasted waaay longer than my wired ones
I love the interoperability of the AirPods, but I had to replace them 3 times under warranty and the 4th pair is now failing out of warranty. I know my case is extreme, but it’s what I’m dealing with. Also AppleCare still has a “per replacement charge” unlike most extended warranties.
This is probably more common than you think, I know plenty of people who've had to replace theirs more than once as well! Thanks for sharing 💪
I had the AirPods Pro for a year and a half, during which I had to go exchange one or both at the Apple Store 6 TIMES because of sound issues (crackling, no sound, hissing, etc).
If you’re looking for the Apple ecosystem connectivity, there’s no better than both of the Beats buds, I got them after I finally gave up on the AirPods and haven’t had to return because of issues and they just, work. And I think they sound better too.
Judging by recent trends, watch for when Apple is going to "solve" this problem by offering "sound as a subscription"
More than 10years ago Ive bought my Audio Technicas ATH M50. Still running strong, no plans to replace any time soon (just service), hate this planned obsolence.
For me, I goes by the golden balance of having both wired and wireless. Wired only for home use on my laptop (which mostly stays at home) while wireless for phone/outdoors uses. This significantly reduces the usage of wireless so the battery won't deplete fast. However this is only if you use a PC/main device at home. If you're only a phone user, wired at home won't work much.
You forgot to mention they bricked the noise cancellation 6 months ago with a firmware update. Taking them from one of the best NC headphones and turning them into a potato. Apparently from a “jawbone lawsuit”. Thus forcing you to buy the new AirPod pro 2’s. There isn’t much on TH-cam covering this. Maybe a future video…
bruh they use black ppl in the airpods ads so the airpods will be more visible 💀
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As a Canadian now living in France, I see a lot of Parisians wearing Canada Goose jackets. Would love to see Future Proof do an episode on Canada Goose.
I was regifted a pair of AirPods Pro when I already have the original pair. I just prefer my wireless Sonys over them, as well as listening to my favorite albums on vinyl through a proper audio setup (best way to enjoy music other than live).
Woooah, definitely keep an eye out for future uploads here because we may or may not have something coming out on Vinyl eerily soon 😅👀
@@FutureProofTV that’s where it’s at! My process is that I listen to a full album on my wireless headphones to figure out if it’s worth buying in vinyl. My “audiophile” headphones are older than myself, look up the Sennheiser HD424. Great thing is that I replaced the ear cushions.
Apple Audio is just not good, overpriced mid range audio
first of all, it is. only audio as good ive heard was from bose which is basically the same price point. also you forget about noise cancelling, transparency mode, shape and software in general. like with the iphone, airpods have become the shape that basically every brand copies (or the “bean” but that shape just sucks) ive never seen any earbuds with as good and intuitive touch controls as airpods.
Maybe I'm an exception here, but I've had my airpods for over 2 years and they've been a great fit for me so far (I literally just watched this video wearing them). If anything, they've been keeping me from creating more waste. As opposed to when I used wired headphones back in the day, I never have to replace them regularly like some people do. And honestly, I've never lost any of the buds. Before buying them, I used to fear that possibility, but now after more than 2 years I see that... It's not that hard NOT to lose them, anyone can do that with minimum effort and attention. Maybe these people who keep losing them are just... not being careful enough i guess lmao. And when I used wired headphones it would piss me OFF that literally every cable would eventually have connection issues with time, regardless of how much I would pay for them. So yeah, it's been nice not having to worry about that for the past 2 years!
Still have my airpods gen 2 from 2017. Wash them in the washer two times but still works. I cant replace them yet cuz they still works lol
my AIAIAI headband broke :( and I saw a bunch of Dj friends with broke TMA-1s, back when they came out, lets's hope the issue has been resolved in a newer model, Senheisser hd25 are basically eternal, I would recommend that option, you can even get a telephone like cable on then, if you are a Dj this is a godsend
“Bose: a brand literally specializing in audio”. That’s the kindest way I think you could describe modern Bose 😂
Yes, Bose isn't exactly thought of very highly among audiophiles.
Buy Other Sound Equipment!
For real. There’s so many quality headphone offerings, and people can’t seem to see past Bose, Sony, and apple.
I’m not a fan of everything apple does, but removing the 3.5mm jack did not make people’s headphones “obsolete”. You could get a lighting adapter or just keep your old phone with headphone jack.
What I love about my AirPods Pro is that they are findable/trackable; not just the case but the individual ear buds. Using my phone I can navigate to them in my house or get the buds or case to make an audible ping.
I’ve used other earbuds that have sounded better but I’ve wasted so much money to the ADHD tax due to loosing them.
The upfront purchase price for the AirPods Pro was frustrating, but compared to the waste and cost of replacing other earphones I’ve already saved money.
I've had AirPod Pro's for over 3 years and they're still working with daily use. Currently using the AirPods Max atm and not having any issues, I've never really had much issues with Apple products 🤷♂
As with most Apple products, there are cheaper and better choices.