The PROBLEM with Dyson Vacuums
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2022
- Dyson is perhaps the most coveted vacuum brand available in this modern era, offering the most stylish and intelligent vacuum cleaners on the market (all while costing you an arm and a leg) - but how much of the hype translates to real value?
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Fun fact about vacuums and consumer protection: the EU has quietly regulated the vacuum market when they found out that companies were increasing wattage without actually improving anything, because consumers thought more wattage was better. Regulators found out it only caused excess heat and noise. There were no perks and it cost more energy, so they enforced a maximum to force manufactures to produce better vacuums with lower wattage (because they couldn't compete with the latter). Guess who opposed such regulations heavily and favored Brexit? Dyson...
Wowaweewah! That’s super interesting (and not really surprising). Thanks for sharing here 👍🏼
Specifically, James Dyson himself.
He was an arch Brexiteer, speaking of the benefits of Brexit for UK businesses. After the UK voted to leave the UK he moved Dyson's HQ to Singapore.
A motor design given the same efficiency will run at higher rpm or drive a bigger load when designed for more wattage. Higher wattage Pre-ban Miele and Sebo vacuums for example are unsurprisingly more powerful airflow and suction wise then ones made after the ban. You can’t just use the lower the wattage on an existing old motor design and expect it to be more efficient… “Excessive heat and noise” every single appliance that uses electricity outputs 1w of heat for every 1w used, you can’t cheat physics. Noise is dependent on various factors like insulation, motor balance, fan speed/curve, housing design etc.
corporations acting as they do.
Not surprised one bit.
@@JimDownWell Yep! He sure did, and he became resident of Singapore so he moved his personal tax obligations to Singapore which has ZERO tax on company dividends and he no longer needs to pay personal tax in the UK. Convenient! … he employs cheap labour in Malaysia to keep even his Asia centric company more profitable! I must admit I love the products but I really dislike the company and the ethics of the founder.
I have a simple rule for these kind of appliances. I google and do a bit of research to see what brands are used in a pro/industrial setting and see if they're affordable and practical enough for home use. Generally a product that's meant for heavy regular use, while a bit more expensive than your regular home appliance, will last a lot longer when used in a home setting. So for vacuums, I saw that Ghibli & Wirbel are used in many places like hotels and big event halls. They get heavy and regular use in those settings and seem to last quite a bit before they break down, so for me, who only cleans like once or twice a week in a small apartment, it's gonna last a lifetime. And it's cheaper than a Dyson
Didn’t know about this! Thanks for sharing! 👍🏼
I'm with you on that. I even researched little things like dust pans and grout brushes. And don't get me started on headphones, lol.
@@jc3drums916 I’d be interested in what your final call was.
what sorts of appliances have you decided on, i'm curious?
may i ask how to look for brands used in industrial settings?
I've just started living on my own, and am so lost when it comes to buying appliances on my own.
I searched for industrial vacuums, and most reviews seem to recommend bissell and sanitaire, and I'ven't seen Ghibli & Wirbel pop up yet xD
are reviews not esp reliable?
I always find it interesting that when products were first invented, they were made to be more reliable than they are now. My parents still have a food processor that was a wedding gift and it still works beautifully. This is proof that companies now care more about making shortcuts to lower production costs and drive up sales.
the jolly g´ol scheduled obsolescence that we live in
The expensive big kenwood ones from a few years ago are still like that. The new ones sadly also have the LCD screen and cheap electronic board disease.
It's not necessarily proof.
All the old buildings in London prove buildings in the past were just made to last hundreds and hundreds of years right! Nope. There's a huge selection bias. You don't think about all the shit that was bought and broke and was thrown away. Most of the buildings in London in the 1700s were absolutely awful wooden cheaply made slums with thatch and they burned down all the time. But that one brick/stone pub on the corner survived.
You don't *see* old stuff that didn't last. It doesn't get passed down to you.
It could be the case, but it is not proof.
Yes, so true. Things were once designed and built with a good level of redundancy to avoid premature failures. Now with computer aided design and inventions like plastic injection molding, they can be made to reliably fail once the warranty expires. Built to a price point with cheap labour, the minimum of the more expensive materials such as copper in the motor and with minimal quality control - welcome to the throw away society.
Because consumer demand wants new, often and cheap
My mom bought a Dyson around 2010 and the main selling point for her were the replaceable parts, you could change nearly every peace whole vacuum out if something broke or needed to be changed. I feel like that is still a big selling point, at least for me. But I've switched to a Miele as someone on the Vacuum Subreddit recommended it for my needs.
I have a 15 year old Dyson vacuum and finding replacement parts like filters is like finding hens teeth.
Getting bags for my wife’s kenmore is not a problem, even though sears is no longer a thing.
Replacement parts should be more easy to find but it doesn’t seem like many people have had success with this? Hopefully it works for a long time to come though!
Miele is probably one of the brands that still aims to make their machines last for atleast 20 years, atleast our 11 year old Miele washing machine has sticker on top of it promising 20 year lifespan.
@@coffeemakerbottomcracked Miele is definitely a different "animal" in today's consumer market. I hope they make it, but my fear is they will have cash flow problems because you don't need to change a device that works well and then they will either go bankrupt or have to cut corners.
@@FlorinArjocu
Doubt that. There stuff is super expensive and in a lot of cases better than the competition. If they can not make the best themselve, they buy it from the best other manufacturer. Their refrigerators are for example from Liebherr. Here in germany people who have made it in life buy miele. Fortheremore the have good costumers service and and good access to replacement parts. Hence you often can repair 10-20 year old stuff (not that cheap) and it will still work. Try finding another brand that carry's replacement part for so long.
I can’t tell you how happy it made me to see that you use your grandma’s old Electrolux. We had one when I was a kid and that thing was such a tank, I really miss those kind of sturdy high quality appliances.
I have my grandmother's 1960 area Electrolux and I wouldn't trade it for any new vacuum regardless of the price. And he he is correct, it's whisper quiet!
Me too
I used to play with ours, pretending it was a space ship
i never personally vacuumed until we got our little cordless dyson. we have always had bigger corded vacuums, of which my dad’s a big fan, but my dog (who this year has started sleeping inside) sheds like crazy. being able to just grab the little dyson and go around the house for 5-10 minutes a day to get all the dog hair is really handy :^]
Yeah, cordless really makes vacuums so much more convenient. I wouldn't got back - BUT we made sure to get one with a replaceable battery at least. (It's a Shark, not a Dyson, so also much less of a brand premium).
@@uweschroeder
Yep I run a larger aftermarket one, can do the whole house on full power now.
From memory it was only 1 screw holding the battery in(dyson v8)
For me cordless vacuum is so convenient I don't even have a regular one at home. I went for Bosch because they make the batteries interchangeable with Bosch DYI equipment (so there is zero to none risk that the battery will be out of stock once I actually need one) and also there is great availability of Bosch spare parts in Poland (to a point where you could probably assemble a complete unit from them).
I bought a used Dyson years ago for ~$250 when the new ones of the same model were selling for $650 or so. I don't regret it. I haven't had an issue with mine and it is way better than the cheap vacuum I had used for several years before.
We bought a Kirby 10 years back. Yes, I've had to replace some minor bits and pieces inside the vacuum but it was clearly designed to be able to be repaired by just about anyone. The vacuum itself wasn't cheap but the parts are pretty inexpensive and the machine is an absolute monster.
I have a kirby. It’s powerful but unbearable to use. Will go with a dyson type now.
@@DNGMaestro dyson is actually crap. go with sebo, miele, or riccar. i promise it will be better and it will actually be durable. dyson is asian made crap, and im not talking japanese either
They have the highest resale value, and people will still buy them now, refurbish if needed.
@@BigEightiesNewWave used kirby vacuums are very cheap compared to what they retail for new. i have bought them for $50, completely working take it home and use it. people get sick of the inconvenience of using one. i have a riccar prima canister with power nozzle, a sebo upright, and an old vintage kirby (1979 tradition), they all work. the kirby doesnt see much use, and besides the self propelled feature offered since the generation 3, the basic design hasnt changed much. the older kirby machines are made like a brick outhouse no doubt.
Yeah, Kirby hasn't done anything to make better vacuums. It is the same heavy vacuum as it was 30 years ago. Sure, make the insides metal so it lasts longer- but the entire body doesn't need to be heavy metal. Maybe some aluminum.
Honestly, the Dysons are really great. They really spent time to understand how people store, empty and clean and made it really easy to use. However, do not buy the newest one that comes out. Buy the discounted one from a year or 2 ago. They don't have the kinda pointless smart technology, but they still have all the ease-of-use innovation with the right amount of suction.
Totally agree. The more tech in the vacuums the more there is to go wrong/become obsolete. 👍🏼
This is why I like my Miele cordless. Replaceable battery and no frills.
@@JimDownWell small dust bin is really a problem, have to return mine because of it
@@kevinji7285 can't say it's been a problem for me. My house isn't that big and I've no pets.
@@kevinji7285 I have no problem emptying its bagless container once in a while as I go through my two-story, five bedroom house. When I finally get a new Dyson, I’ll probably go with one of their larger receptacles. Lots of choices, from their tiny one to their medium to the large.
I’m on my third Dyson, two vacuums and the curling iron. They work well, but their long term warranty leaves something to be desired, odd for such expensive products.
Thanks for sharing your real world experience. Honestly the fact that you’ve already owned three speaks volumes.
You're on your third one, sooo... fool you twice, I guess?
You mean you've replaced the vacuums and the curling iron three times, or you have two vacuums you're still using and a curling iron?
@@alittlebitgone You need to read that sentence again. They own 3 Dyson products. 2 vacuums and a curling iron. I'm assuming with the complaint about the warranty that the second vacuum is a replacement and depending on how long they've had the vacuum, the frequency of use & the duration of use consistent use, that the longevity is either reasonable or sub par.
Weird. I have 20 year old Dyson.
I have a Roomba i3+ and it fits my needs well. It’s great for pet hair, carpet cleaning, and hard floor cleaning. I work 40 hours a week and I’m in my final college semester so frankly having more things in my life that I can automate the better.
One thing that has majorly improved over the last decade in vacuum tech is filtration. Your house shouldn’t smell like you just vacuumed. If it does that means a lot of dust, or whatever was in your carpet, filled air was released back into your home. You’re literally polluting your air every time you vacuum if your vacuum cleaner has poor filtration. HEPA filtration (or a hepa bag) and a sealed system are very important.
You can replace the battery on old Dyson handhelds pretty easily: they are secured by two screws and replacements sell for around 30 dollars on Amazon. I’ve used/abused my Dyson V6 for over five years and replaced the battery three times. Honestly I love how light the vacuum is.
I enjoy my $50 shark vacuum for 5 years to each their own
Have the v15 detect to clean up after my girlfriend’s 3 cats. That laser light thing lets me see where I’ve vacuumed on the floor. Very handy and much more convenient than plugging in the upright cleaner. Got it on sale $250 off. We’ll see how it holds up over the years but so far it absolutely slaps
I found an adapter on Amazon for my v8 that allows me to use ryobi drill batteries
AND Dyson sells replacement parts directly to consumers, including batteries.
I think my Miele is 15 years by now and I've broke the lid to the storage compartment.
It’s interesting to note your grandma’s vacuum. My grandma had an Electrolux vac from the early sixties. It didn’t have wheels but rather it slid on the floor on a set of steel runners much like a sleigh. It was quiet and effective. It was used in a very dusty part of South Africa and was only replaced after many years of use when the flexible hose could not be replaced because of ‘model upgrades!’
1.5 years out of a battery? That's terrible.
Idk what vacuum experts you talk about but in vacuum wars (which have very transparent and thorough tests) they always come out on top
Yeah, I own two (7 and 4 yrs old) Dyson vacs and they still work like a dream
@@isaiaht5870 I have a Shark Navigator. It blew my Bissell out of the water. I will never buy a midrange vaccuum again.
Is Vaccuum Wars a tv show?
I think they are overrated, miele are better and cheaper
@@nBasedAce no it's a series on TH-cam and they compare the best and newest vacuum cleaners
I think Dyson made a big impact for the progress of the vacuum industry and since then it has been making small improvements, which has been followed by others manufacturers. In this way, competitors are able to make Dyson's innovations available at more affordable price few time later.
At my tiny cluttered apartment I never considered a traditional vacuum, so I saw the sunlight when I was able to get a Dyson V6 on a Black Friday. It still works perfectly and I only had to find a replacement battery when the original started to die.
Then, recently I got the V12 to have a cleaner emptying system, more total battery, not having to pull the trigger all the time and get some untangling accessories. And the remaining time of power on the LED screen is not a bad addition. So yes, new vacuums have given me a lot, at least in my case
When I moved out of the house, my mom gave me her Dyson standup vacuum. The thing is almost 25 years old and is still going strong to this day. I love it and don't plan on replacing it any time soon.
when I first bought Dyson more than 20 years ago, it was flashy and innovative yet simple with only 2 buttons. I think it was the DC-06. I loved that vacuum cleaner with its HEPA filter. No one else had it. When I moved house, it was pinched by one of the movers.
I’ve owned a Dyson V8 cordless vacuum for three years and it exceeded my expectations of cleaning up my home while not blowing the dust particles back out into the air I breathe. It’s HEPA filter is easy to replace and the attachments have held up well.
Yeah this is what people are skipping over. The filters are far superior to any older vacuum cleaner. With older ones, you vacuum up dust but a lot of it just passes the filter and gets blown back out into the atmosphere, especially micro particles which are really hard to filter.
Almost every company have vaccums that trap 99.9% of allergents and dust for half the price of Dysons. If you think Dyson are superior because of this then get help.
most vacumm today has a hepa filter...
Exactly! It is a superior product sorry not sorry
I mean the cordless for me is very nice too I'd rather buy a new battery every few years than a new bag for the added convenience of being able to use it in lofts and cellars which lack a cord. Chaining extension cords feels so wrong.
My first Dyson is well over a decade old. It now lives in the garage, and helps pick up my hobby and crafting messes and keeps the car clean. My second (main one for heavy vacuuming in heavily trafficked areas) bought about a year ago in eofy sales is amazing. It picks up stuff that I cant see without magnifying glass. Great for allergies. I purchased a cordless stick version for upstairs in an old model runout 8 months ago at half price. My kids actually vacuum their own rooms now. And they put it back in its cradle. It is worth it.
I have a disability and the Dyson vacuums are really easy for me to use and to empty and maintain.
(From ages 18 to 30, I had my mum’s old electrolux. It never gave up but was really hard to use. And I hated the bags.
The most important thing is that the choice is there. No one is being forced into Dyson hood, and for some of us, the ease of use is worth every (over priced at full retail) penny.
I find Dyson designs pretty cool. It's the incredibly high prices that put me completely off. And anyway, our 250 euro Miele vacuum has being doing its job now for 20 years without any issues. In that time my sister is on her third Dyson, mainly because the plastic catches that hold the parts of the housing together keep snapping off.
What i like about Dyson.... I've been through 4 vacuums in 5 years before i broke down and bought a refurbished Dyson for $300 with extended warranty 8 years ago after my sister told me she's had hers for 15 years and it still works perfectly. They have a manual for troubleshooting and taking the entire thing apart to clean or if you have issues and if that doesn't work you call customer service and if they still can't figure it out they'll tell you which ups to drop it at and they'll fix it and send it back. Worth every penny!! That's how everything should be built
Did you not get warranty?
My dad was an Electrolux seller and he has said it was the peak of vacuuming ever since. It's been like 40 years and he still talks about it. He doesn't have one though, he assumed vacuums would get better over time and got rid of his. A regret he hasn't gotten over in 40 years lol. I hope he doesn't see this video or his obsession will be reignited and he'll start bringing it up even more every time he sees a vacuum.
I bought the very first Dyson... It lasted from 2002 to 2020! 💕 LOVE IT! Worth every penny!
That Electrolux is SICK! I love that mid century design. I remember having the Electrolux salesman coming to our house in Australia to ‘demonstrate’ the model (circa 1978 or so) and we had that cleaner for years and years. I do love the design, performance and ease-of-use of Dyson and I have had a lot of them but I’ve also spent a lot on new batteries, replacing plastic parts and have even junked a couple within a few years because of reliability issues. They just look so damned good! They are basically the “Apple” of vacuuming.
My parents had an Aussie door to door model too, with upholstered panels on the side so it didnt scratch up furniture as you went around. They had it for 35 years or so and replaced only because it became too heavy for them to lug around from room to room as they got older.
I used to work at a store that sold vacuums and we would use the floor model Dysons to clean the floors at closing and it regularly had trouble picking up small pieces of paper and dirt lying on top of the flat no-pile carpet in the store. Maybe it was obliterating the microscopic dirt locked in the carpet fiber, but if I still have to bend over and pick up stuff off the floor then what are we paying for.
Part of the problem is just that a home vacuum is a bad vacuum for glued down commercial carpet. Cleaning a carpet you can lift and beat is a different problem than cleaning a carpet you can't.
Also had a dyson at work and it wouldn't pick up little bits of paper or paper clips. For a 1k vacuum I could never understand.
I can agree on simplicity, but cordless is something I would never compromise on. The freedom of movement and the ease of use cordless provides when you don't have to drag a giant snake behind you across the floor, a snake that likes to get tangled up in all of the corners of your furniture, is simply to beautiful
In the 80's I waited tables and I also cleaned the owners house on the side and he had a Rainbow vacuum. It had a water filter and the dirt was trapped in the water (which got quite nasty as I recall). It also cost a fortune back then and it really did work well. So I would say that was an innovation long before Dyson. Rainbow vacuums are still around too.
My parents had one of those while I was growing up. They used it for a loooong time but I think they eventually got tired of sticking their hands in the dirty water to form a ball of the dirt/hair (to be thrown away) and then flushing the water down the toilet.
My Dyson dont last long before blocking.
Buy a henry and a Hoover hushtone
@@bread-gz3rl My Dyson leaves a thick streak of crap from the right hand side of the roller brush, seems to be a desighn problem with a gap where the crap falls out.
I've never heard of such a thing. Wild
Remember the Rainbow vacuum? Expensive initially, but bagless water filtration. No need to buy bags or filters (but empty it after every use or pay the price for anerobic sludge in the pan). Built like a tank and effective.
My parents had one when I was growing up. I remember it was like a tank and also weighed a bunch (because of the water) so going up/down stairs was not super convenient.
I'm not a fan of the canister vacuums and maybe the Rainbow was the reason why. I couldn't just zip zip around cleaning. I was constantly maneuvering it around furniture/corners.
Bags are better
@bread not better
Project Farm just showed that Dyson performs well considering the cost topping most other brands in the immediate need of cleaning. As an aside - as battery powered items and cordless becomes more ubiquitous there will also ways be the topic of cobalt and battery raw materials. Same conversation around Tesla draws detractors citing sustainability. I'd at least feel better using a battery powered item where I can replace the battery if the resources could be recycled but were unable to do that yet.
The main issue with those old vacuum is that they have a motor that is power hungry and inefficient, which is not too good considering current electricity prices across Europe.
And also related to the sound, this is the same reason why new vacuums are louder than older ones, because they try to squeeze out as much juice as they can from a smaller motor (usually around 500-900 watts in most European countries, as this is the upper limit currently allowed).
Later edit: forgot to mention the filtration system which is basically a joke on older vacuums. I currently have a relatively cheap bagless $100 vacuum with 3 filters from which 2 are hepa filters and it's really amazing.
Prior to the 80s it wasn't uncommon at all for a vacuum to run between 300-800 watts. The 12 Amp 1200 watts USA/2400 watts europe vacuums where made to market higher power and imply better cleaning.
@@ThePolaroid669 my thoughts exactly. I'd be more concerned about the power consumption of devices that are on for long periods of time like a TV, a fridge, a heater, or lights. I still wouldn't worry too much about the power consumption of my gaming PC because that is often variable, and when gaming, more power consumption equals better graphics/performance.
I think the thing about modern vacuums being louder is bunk. Sure before we got to vacuums in the kW range they were pretty quiet, but modern vacuums really are pretty quiet as more noise = more energy wasted. The cordless ones are also typically quite a bit closer to your ears which makes them seem louder.
The Dyson vacuum I used was ear shrieking loud. I got a new vacuum because of it.
If you consider using the same vacuum for 40 years instead of buying a new one every 5 years, it is more sustainable despite of motor inefficiency. Think about the carbon emissions of producing these new plastic vacuums that break after just a few years.
Bought a Miele vacuum this year because the man who owned the small vacuum shop (for 30+ years) said he used multiple at home. Sold. No regrets it’s awesome! The canister vacuums are usually the way to go.
Same, I bought one recently. Everyone I know who owns a Miele can’t help but to advocate it’s performance!
@@Cunch the c3 is amazing. I wanted one since they were named s8
Finally someone says it! I was gifted a dyson vacuum and it broke after just two days! My parents use shark but they brake after 2 years, so when my husband broke out cheap Walmart vacuum I did some digging into a vacuum that would work on my carpets in my apartment(especially with two messy cats) and decided on black and decker as my grandparents have black and decker appliances older then me, it's cordless which is great since my apartment has limited outlets and it's going strong and running the same as day one a year later. Although I wish my grandparents still had that nice canister vacuum I grew up with, I remember it was quiet enough that our dog loved to be vacuumed with it!
What broke on the Dyson?
I was gifted a Dyson V6 in 2016. After 6 years, ive replaced the battery once and the motor in one the head attachments. I do like it, but I think when it is time to move on, I will explore the other brands first. They are getting outragedly priced for something that is getting constantly dirty and dusty.
I've had a Dyson for over 10 years now and love it. Felt silly spending 500 bucks on a vacuum at the time but cheap vacuums wrrnt getting my dogs hair out of the carpet. All these years later its never broken and works great, zero regrets lol
Me too! I bought my first and only dyson 8 yrs ago after college when i got my first big boy apartment. It has never broken or had any issues. Before that, i think i needed to buy a new vacuum once a year or so.
My parents have a rainbow vacuum that I believe is close to if not over 20 years old that’s still going strong. I’m surprised how long good vacuums can last.
I wonder if there’s a difference between the older models and the new? Stoked your unit is still going though! 😊
@@FutureProofTV I've got a cordless vacuum from around 4ish to 5 years ago and my only complaint was that the battery died pretty quickly. I spent $25 online for a third party battery replacement and haven't had an issue since!
Have had the same Dyson for 20 years. Still kicking ass and working like new. Used 2x weekly with 2 dogs and a cat
I hope you always put out these pro consumer videos that ultimately inform and help the people who watch. I know I'll always watch as long as you do.
I haven’t researched this but, as far as I can remember, Dyson was the first company to push for bagless vacuums. BIG win for the environment. Also, my Dyson doesn’t lose suction as the container gets fuller. On top of that, the cordless convenience was far superior to other cordless vacs available when Dyson introduced theirs. My cordless Electrolux had to be dumped in the trash after one year because its battery couldn’t be replaced, whereas I’ve been able to swap out an old for a new battery for my Dyson. Oh, and its HEPA filter makes a world of difference for my allergies. I also very much appreciate the high-end design, which translates to my vacuuming more often than with my old cheap Sears vacuum cleaner. I use my cordless Dyson regularly and kept my corded Dyson from 12 years ago, since it still works like new and is good as a backup.
I have a dyson it works alot better then the off brand bagless vacuum I had.
I can’t see how using a bit less paper bags is a big win for the environment. Also Dyson uses HEPA filters.
@@samuele5931 It's a big win since the paper bags tend to prevent the trash inside from biodegrading, thereby taking up alot of landfill space. And don't forget almost all bagged vaccums also have a HEPA filter.
Bagless machines live between 1-5 years on average. Bagged machines live 10+. Bags are biodegradable, bagless filters aren't. A pack of bags for between $10-$20 will last most people a year. A bag-less filter is 3 to 6 months and normally is $20+ and you have to wash it all the time.
It's not better for the environment, your house or your health.
You walk outside and empty the dust on to yourself and walk it back inside.
@@adamdempsey958 A 10-20 dollar pack of bags not going to last even a month if you vacuum so much that you have to replace your bag less vacuum filter twice a year. SEBO’s genuine bags are over $5 per bag.
And I’m sorry which bagged filters are biodegradable? Most certainly not the ones with plastics insets and all-round filter components. Also, bagged vacuum’s also have filters too. I wouldn’t say it’s misinformation that made the majority of consumers who have been using bagged vacuums to switch to bag-less vacuums.
Video unfortunately misses the mark - I've had the original handheld Dyson since it first launched and its still going strong - I think I paid $200-300 for it and have replaced the battery twice (it does cost money).
Suction power on dyson on the handheld battery powered one (it was animal something model but they've changed naming schemes I think) at the time was better than competing brands that had to be plugged in. The new ones are pretty good too, but the old ones are sufficiently good as is.
I'll echo vacuum wars as a good channel on the subject.
Good to hear it’s worked for you! Dyson is a company with some solid products but as we point out, the trend we’re seeing is towards more planned obsolescence… we’ll see in years to come if we were right. 🤷🏻♂️
Doesn't really miss the mark. He acknowledged the quality of the original products. But the evidence does point towards Dyson pushing the disposable consumer product idea. Absolutely no reason for new Dysons to cost as much as they do.
Yeah my battery died pretty quickly but the third party replacement battery that I got was pretty cheap and has lasted a fair bit longer.
I agree - i don't think some of the claims here are really backed up or are things that most manufacturers are doing. Dyson are overpriced and i've no issue with seeing Mr Dyson's company get bashed, but usually the info in the bashing on this channel is better supported by stats/articles/info.
@@FutureProofTV Are Dyson more guilty of this than anyone else though? Do they refresh their product line more quickly with meaningless or minor improvements than other brands, is the tech the added providing useful info or something that could have been accomplished with a couple of LED's on the side. I have genuinely no idea, but Ii'm not sure in the video shows that you do either. There is a general trend to add more "smart" or "connected" tech into products, and some of it is gimmmiky for sure, but i'm not sure dyson are any more guilty of than than anyone else. Nor do i think this video really showed that they last less long than anyone else's vac (except a metal electrolux canister vac that doesn't appear to see carpets too often).I don't mind the idea of bashing Dysons overpriced vacuums, but back up your claims.
My parents have a shark nv501 and its 14 years old, still works perfectly. It works so good that I bought a refurb one off amazon when I bought my house. I have a parts one in the garage as well, and only had to steal a hose from it for theirs. Best vacuum ever made imo
i've had my small €70 Black&Decker cordless vacuum for about 10 years, now that you make me think of it. The battery was never impressive, and I had to change the non-woven fabric filter once... but with good care it's been doing the job. Good enough is enough :)
Do you know how difficult it is to make a simple push button device fail exactly when the warranty expires?
Yes. It's called planned obsolescence.
@@nBasedAce Zooom! The vacuum just flew right over your head.
Not that difficult at all.
As someone who works in cleaning and does a lot of vacuuming, those big Dyson vacuums are a big headache. Lots of the big ones are difficult to maneuver and the wand is so confusing compared to other models. We use mostly 2nd hand shark navigators and they work wonderfully.
I've got a DC40 Animal which I've had for well over 10yrs now and I've never had any problems with it. I do look after it by cleaning the filters and the bucket every so often and I've recently replaced all the hoses.
I paid £270 for it as it had £130 off. It's the best vacuum cleaner I've ever had
I was looking for a affordable cordless vacuum and my husband suggested the Makita. Yes, the tool companies. It cost me 70 can dollars, without the battterie. But we already had so much batteries and a recharge station. It does pretty well and do the work I need to be done : a quick daily vacuum of the floor for the chirldren.
Thanks for this video!
Went from a 2006 dirt devil to a V11 and the difference is insane. Even the air quality has gotten better.
should I buy Dyson? Currently have a shark but is dying after 3yrs
@Sandy F. if mostly hard wood flooring I would get the new shark with the duo clean system is mostly carpet I'll get the new dyson multicolor 3
@@reyfuentes4572 both are junk get a Henry and a Hoover hushtone 13 for like 200$ less
@bread I got a rotator powerfins for $113...sealed system and excellent barefloor performance while using the lift away feature on my car...can't beat that price...
It would have been great if you mentioned their other products. I first bought a fan/Air purifier and it improved my life a lot (dust allergy) . I know there are brands that do the same job, but for a desk application it has given a much more comfortable and clean space without hassles. Later I got a desk lamp and it really is great, this one has at least an annoying issue but for 95% of the time it is flawless and very good for my needs. I would really love for both of these to live a lot longer and I hope I don't have to give an update of broken devices, but I guess their 2 year warranty also means a bit of emotional attachment as well, and I would be much more willing to continue with them.
This video is only about vacuums I guess.
As the commenter below mentions this is indeed a video about vacuums. Haha maybe we’ll touch on their other products down the road 🤷🏻♂️👍🏼
Dude their air purifiers are ass. Look at the cadr rating compared to other much cheaper options.
Tthe fan from dyson is just a flawed desgin. Other manufactures can make it quiter and more effective for one quarter of the price.
CBC Marketplace (cdn broadcasting corp) did a test on 5 air purifiers not long ago and found that the Dyson air purifier wasnt even as good as a do it yourself home made filter, using a box fan, tape, and a good furnace filter. Check it out. th-cam.com/video/0uZKBlwLEFs/w-d-xo.html
Never owned a dyson but I have worked on a couple, and they are assembled in a very thoughful way. A pleasure to take apart and put back together. That being said, I own a Dirt Devil easylite (bagless like plenty of things these days) and as long as I keep the filter clean (wash it in the sink every few weeks) then it performs great. One day the upper motor bearing will probably fail. Like many household appliances, that bearing is just a brass collar instead of a sealed ball bearing like the one of the motor's lower end. Once that gets too much play, that's when the motor starts to really sound like hell and its time for a new vacuum.
My uncle still has my grandma's Elctrolux as well. Works great. We've gone through 3 vacuums that I know of and her old one is still going strong. And that's with us attempting to fix them, but sometimes parts and time cost more than replacing just it.
I have an electrolux great machine.
I own two lower end cordless Dysons. Love them more than any other vacuum I’ve ever used. Convenient and versatile.
My parents old Electrolux is probably 30 years old and still works better than any other vacuum I've come across!
I replace the brush wheel and little rubber belt 1x for them; I might need to replace then again in another 5-10 years.
I just recently replaced a clutch assy, belt, and roller brush in my 15 year old dyson! Still going strong. So far it’s survived 3 dogs and 2 cats!
around 5+ years ago, i bought a simple off-brand robot vacuum. i use it far more than regular vacuums because of how little effort (a little baby sitting) is required, and because it is more quiet and effective. it has been a no-regrets purchase that i recommend as appropriate.
What's the model you picked up?
I’ve had a Dyson for seven years. It’s easy to pull apart and clean and maintain. I also had a technician come out to take a look at it once at no cost (even though I’d caused the problem by sucking up some nail scissors). It’s super disappointing to hear about the labour issues so I’ll definitely think twice before buying another one. I plan on making mine last as long as possible.
I might be wrong here, but it is probably hard to find a product that was produces ethically. Basically everything is produced in countries with questionable worker rights and Malaysia might be one of the countries with better standards (compared to countries like China, Bangladesh or Sri Lanka).
In England people say " I'm going to Hoover the rugs . " 😂😂😂😂😂
With a dyson 😜
Had our DC14 since 2008 and works flawlessly. We never had an issue. It got replaced with a UP13 few years back but I was able to keep the DC14 (And it still works flawlessly). I recently also got a DC15 from 2006 and after some cleanup, it works really well. Bagged vacs will always have their flaw of using disposable bags and more difficult to wash vs washing a small filter
Don't have much experience with Electrolux, but my mom's Kirby is pretty awesome. And fact she can buy replacement parts like belts, bag bags, and power cords as needed instead of a whole new vacuum is pretty sweet.
I'm the proud owner of a $20 dirt devil myself.
I love your channel, but this time I really need to say your wrong. My main Dyson holds for over 12years+ and the little one V2 we have also holds and holds. We were even able to replace the battery for the V2 since it suddenly stop working, they repaired it for cheap and they not even sell it anymore for quite a while now. Super service super durability
I would never buy a Dyson, but I happened on one due to a relationship. It was the old mostly yellow that might still be sold as a classic. It didn't work at the time, but I was able to get it working. After a few weeks it was clear that it was an inferior product. I quickly got tired of picking up small debris that the Dyson wouldn't pick up, so I picked up a $75 Hoover and it was so much better. I've been vacuuming for more that 50 years. I had an Electrolux that lasted well over 20 years with not a single problem. I only bought a new Panasonic to get away from buying bags. I had been buying bags in lots of 100 to save money. The Panasonic was fine, no real complaints, but didn't have it but didn't have it even 10 year when it was lost in a relationship breakup. That is when I was introduced to the Dyson. Just looking at the cost and what you get, it was easy to see that it was not a good value. It turned out to be less reliable than even cheap vacs, and no where near as good as quality vacs I've had. It is very hard to find that level of quality any more, but when you can get a Hoover for $75 with a 5 year warranty, and it is maybe 80% - 90% of the best I've ever owned, the extra money is not worth it. It's unlikely I would even touch a Dyson. The one I used was difficult to handled, didn't get close to edges and couldn't even get under cabinet toe overhang. I could see dirt, but it wouldn't pick it up. We gave it away which made someone very happy to get a Dyson. Good for them.
My mum got a Dyson that someone else gave away coz they hated it. Mum hated it too.
My housemate has a Dyson stick vacuum and it works well. But I'm sure you could get one from another brand thats as good or even better. And cheaper.
@@em84c Dyson cordless vaccums have the best performance when tested against other similar vacuums: th-cam.com/video/RTkUNwBo9Ao/w-d-xo.html
My wife was so happy and excited when we could finally afford a Dyson vacuum. That meant we had finally become successful enough to buy the very best. She was even more happy about two years later when we found a cheap used vacuum that actually worked well. That was about 10 years ago. We're still using the yard sale vacuum. Sure it needs bags, and has electrical tape on the cord, and maybe it's not as pretty, but it just works significantly better than the Dyson ever did.
My enthusiasm for Dyson products was curbed during a trip to a local rubbish tip, where broken Dyson vacuum cleaners had an entire section to themselves. There must have been a couple of hundred of the things forlornly glinting in the afternoon sunshine. Next door to the Dyson triage unit was another enclosure containing around forty casualties from other manufacturers. Nuff said!
But is this because there's simply more Dyson vacuums than other brands?
I call BS on the old vacuum being quieter.
I've changed vacuums over the years. And dyson is the only one I can sleep through while it is being used.
I sometimes wake up, but not from the vacuum itself, but from the vacuum head knocking on the corners of the walls and chairs...etc
8:33: I still use my grandmother's old vacuum from the 70's and it works great still. 8:43: shows girlfriend? roommate? wife? sister? vacuuming. "Hey honey! I need you to help me make a video about vacuums! Yeah, just vacuum the place and I'll film you, ok? No, no, keep on going -- I still need more b-roll footage. And you missed a spot over there!"
Smooooooth. Really smooth.
I’m using an Electrolux that my mother gave me 30 years ago when she thought it was broken (it was actually just clogged by a paper towel). She says she used it for about 10 years. So my Electrolux vacuum cleaner is 40 years old and works perfectly.
Future Proof’s content is often detailed and informative I believe the Dyson appliance brand is the best in quality. It goes to show that sometimes the best products can’t always live up to what we’re expecting of them to do.
They’re not perfect but they really do fulfill a lot of their promises. 🤷🏻♂️
The highest quality thing dyson has to offer is their marketing department, it really is state of the art. As for their vacuums? Reality is often disappointing.
Best in quality = cheap plastic from Malaysia?
Thank you for making this! Us vacuum ~enthusiasts~ have been trying to push all of this for years and people just won’t listen! Blinded by brand names and marketing, glad it’s starting to catch on.
So which vacuum cleaner would scratch your itch?
@@einfachnurleo7099 Depends entirely on your needs! Theres a vacuum for every home there is no vac for every situation. But on the top of my list i’d recommend a Sebo, a great all around vac everything they make is superb quality. Repairable, well made, extremely versatile, made in Germany and east to use. If you give some details on your house (carpeting/area rugs or all bare floor, size, pets) and budget I could make a more specific recommendation :)
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@@einfachnurleo7099 miele c3 /s8
This video seems like an ad for that 1970s vacuum. I have had a Dyson V11 since 2019 and I absolutely love it. It is quiet, convenient, very powerful, and has never needed any repairs.
its not as powerful as any corded/bagged vacuum in existence. Dyson is fine for quick pick ups but youd be amazed how much dust is not getting picked up by that vacuum. They simply arent adequate for entire homes. 5 years is nothing, a sebo or miele at the same price you paid will last at least 4 times as long
@@williamhunsaker2842 "its not as powerful as any corded/bagged vacuum in existence. " False. I owned and used bagged vacuums for all my life until I bought that Dyson V11, and when I used the Dyson the first time, I was shocked at how much dust it picked up that had been left in my carpet by my previous bagged vacuum. I saw the proof with my own eyes that the Dyson is much better, and the Dyson continues to work today just as well as it did when I first bought it.
I live alone in a two room apartment and spent about 100$ on a bagless vaccuum that needs to be plugged in. It works flawlessly, has a few extra features that make it easier to use and I empty the dust container maybe once a month. It's really easy to make me think I need the best of the best, and I have been jealous watching the dyson commercials, but I really couldn't be happier with what I bought. Will need to buy a new filter in perhaps a year or two, but that's it, and even then some reviewers recommend you just clean it yourself.
I bought a Miele (pronounced Me-lah, I believe) canister a couple years ago, and it is hands down the best around. It was a thousand bucks but has a great warranty and is a grand product. Dyson is a bit over-hyped and too expensive for what you get.
Man - I've had this conversation with my friends countless times! If I can't find an old reliable then what should I get? You mentioned the German company, how many other companies are out here killin' it in the vacuum game rn?
I got a shark one for pet hair that has a hepa filter. It’s very solid and has cut down my allergies a ton. Downside is that it a complete pain to do stairs, but I only have one short staircase.
Hepa filters are the new “bags” in this razor-and-blades sales model.
Just get a Sebo Felix. Shit will last the rest of your life
Sebo, miele, Lindhaus, and numatic.
Growing up my family used a vintage vacuum that had a reusable bag. Does your grandmother's vacuum have a reusable bag too or are they still selling a bag that works in a vacuum that old?
My DCO7 is nearly 20 years old and is still going strong, having cleaned up after building jobs and survived a number of falls down the stairs. In that time I've replaced the brush bar, filters and hose which are widely available and affordable. The cost of Miele parts on the other hand is borderline extortion, and that's if you can get hold of them.
As someone with ADHD, I LOVE my wireless dyson (can't remember what model I have, it was about $800 and over a year old). Just the fact of having to deal with a cord would make me never vacuum (especially the stairs). So my dyson does make me clean more, it's simple to use and does an amazing job at getting all the dog hair. :)
Animal hair sucking power is why we ended up with the outsize. Cordless also makes it so much less of a chore to just suck up a bit of mess so ours gets used sometimes multiple times a day.
The new powered brush bars are also impressively good at not getting all tangled up with long hair like most vacuums seem to.
Planned obsolescence is going to make you buy another one is 3 years so Dyson can meet their quarterly profit projections. So have fun with that.
Sad to hear about the labor accusations and I totally agree, the price for a Dyson product is insane. Despite all that, I've owned 4 Dyson products (I have two currently. Gave the others to family/friends years ago and they are still going strong!) I used to hate vacuuming because of the cord and bag. I got one of those Dyson vacuums when I moved out and now I vacuum our place 4 times a day at least and it's actually an enjoyable experience for myself and my fiancé 😅. I tried another comparable cordless vacuum and found it to be quite annoying and not nearly as easy to use as a Dyson but I will have to check out the one you mentioned the next time I'm in need of a new vacuum.
I avoid carpet, so I don't have to vacuum
Why are you vacuuming 4 times a day? Are you packaging cocaine? It's cool if you are, and I won't tell anyone. I can't fathom any other reason why you would need to vacuum so often.
@@frozenhouse5362 you still need to vacuum hard floor 😅
@@booooooooooooooooooooooo I use a broom for that🧹😁
I have 3 dysons now and all are still in great shape and has been very useful since day 1 :)
We bought a Dyson vacuum back in 2007 when we moved back to our home country and the thing did an excellent job for 13 years, not a couple of years as was pointed out in this video. When it stopped working we bought a fairly good name brand stick vac and it lasted a year. We went back to a Dyson again and got on with our lives. They're pretty good to be honest and whilst they're more expensive than other brands, my experience is that they last longer. I'll pay more for durability and be happy about it, because the bloody thing isn't breaking down on me the whole time.
I highly recomend to just get a strong shop vacuum. Those last for ages are very strong, can vacuum up liquids and have a huge capacity. I have a Makita one and use bags in it. But you could use it without with clogs the filters much faster.. But the bags are huge so the material wasted per kg of dust is much lower.
They are also big and unwieldy in an average room that is not a workshop, and a lot of models aren't made to filter out fine particles that most home vacuums offer (HEPA).
I've been thinking about getting a shop vac now that I live with my sister and her samoyed. I've never seen so much hair in my life... and I work at an animal hospital!
that would fit in my 540 sqft apartment for sure
Yeah, my mom had an electrolux vaccuum.
I do think the portable stick vacuum is a meaningful improvement in vacuum experience. Ours is basically in the broom closet and it replaces the broom. It's better than the broom on floors and effective enough on carpets, and because it is so easy and convenient, I'll use it more regularly. Our place is cleaner because of it. When we had more cumbersome vacuums sometimes it would be more than a week, or even two between cleanings.
That being said, I have one from a few years back, there's no reason to replace it, I have no need for a fancy display or lasers. I will eventually have to replace the battery which is annoying, but also possible.
I do find that the bagless "cyclonic action" is not as effective as one would hope. The filter (because they are still filtered) gets clogged all the time and that does have to be replaced regularly.
But I do think convenience does matter. Yeah, it probably isn't as effective a vacuum as a kirby or whatever the .... erm ... cool? people who like vacuums are into these days, but that doesn't matter if it just sits in my closet. What matters is how clean my home is and it is cleaner when I have a more convenient vacuum.
Cordless has been a godsend for me. Pulling out a large hoover, plugging it in, and re-plugging it in when I move around the house are too many steps. Corded might be more powerful but that's useless if it barely gets used because it uses too many "spoons" when compared to a cordless one that, by comparison, is effortless and therefore gets used way more regularly.
I agree with your comments. I had a Dyson now on scrap heap. My old Hoover (1951) still working and use it but also have Miele suction cleaner which is 5 years old and excellent. My Mother bought the Hoover by the way and passed it on to me.
Much like you, I own a "vintage" electrolux. Except mine is from the mid 90's and is a grey plastic tank of a vccum that does a really good job cleaning my house I got off Facebook marketplace for $50 after getting a few recommendation for the vacuum subreddit. The best part besides the suction power is that every part is interchangeable and parts are still made for it to this day.
I have a Shark HV322 bagless vacuum and of course it's corded because I'm not stupid to buy battery operated vacuum that needs a new battery every few years. It came with 7y warranty, I bought it for $230 about 6.5y ago and have never had a single issue. I vacuum every single day because I have a long haired fluffy cat so it has been used thousands of times 10-15minutes each time. I do follow the maintenance schedule and wash the filters once a month as recommended in the manual.
LifeBindeR - "of course it's corded because I'm not stupid"
Me - You sound pretty emotional about other people's vacuum choices... have you considered switching to decaf?
@@BatCaveOz not emotional at all. Just financially and environmentally responsible. Did your poor feelings get hurt? Oh no.
Dyson's idea behind bagless kind off made sense back then when we used to use paper bags but nowdays with microfiber HEPA bags they significantly outperform bagless vacuums aswell as water filtration vacuums in filtration, ease of maintenance and overall improves machine reliability as the motor stays clean.
Sad thing is most people don’t understand this until they try it - which most won’t. Tossing a hepa once a month is so much easier than having to clean out a filthy cyclone.
I love your Electrlux! Mom had one for years until she sold it.
I worked for a retailer who carried Dyson in the mid 2000’s. I can tell you from all of the training we received (which was usually once yearly) that one big way for us to sell them was to tell the story about one way Dyson’s are quality controlled. Ready? This is huge!!
They pull units down sets of stairs until something breaks and reengineer the piece that broke!!
Now I’m no nuclear engineer but that is potentially the worst thing to use when selling a vacuum!! Oh yea, and they were the most returned units!
Great video
Tried a few Dyson vacuums because as you say, your friends try to impress you with it. They were sucking alright, but at the same time they were noisy, fiddly, and usually made a huge mess when emptying the dust container. I am using a cheap one from Electrolux, and while neither flashy nor coming with such great suction, it is easy to handle, the dust container is easy to empty and can just be rinsed off in the shower along with the filters.
I remember at some point when I was a teen, the vaccum cleaner (idk the brand) that my parents had gotten as a wedding gift finally died. It had lived over 20 years. After a bit of research, they replaced it with a Dyson, expecting it to be an upgrade. Pretty much the only thing that seemed better was that it was a bit quieter and it was bagless. But it only lasted about 5 years before it fully died. They replaced it with a miel and seem to be really happy with it
I still have a dc14 from 2004
@@reyfuentes4572 Thats the time when they still had to perform. Now ita a monopoly selling only trash.
Just to note, Malaysia in itself isn’t that bad when it comes to labor laws and manufacturing practices (there are parts in the planes that you sit in that are made here… I’ve done tours of these factories). It’s the company that finds ways to circumvent the labor laws that are in this country.
my dad has an older dyson that's at least 20 years old that he inherited from his mom and it's held up pretty well considering its age. in the age of smart tech the stuff they make now definitely won't last but to be fair their old vacuums still work really well and hold up
I have the Dyson V15, had it for two-three years. I love it. It was expensive, but I have three hair shedding dogs, and it is the only vacuum I’ve had that can handle the carpets and hard floors with these guys.
This video fell flat for me in the same way the Rolex one did. You pick the most extreme offering ($1,500 smart Dyson and $75k blinged out Rolex) and you trash the brand based on that strawman, rather then the more common products they sell. What I’m not seeing here is anything concrete about “here are vacuums better than Dyson for less money”.
That’s a very valid point
You really didn't explain why Dyson is bad
Bought the most basic version for the following reasons;
1. You can trust the brand to be around for some time, so it's probably easier to find spare parts for repair in 5-10 years or so.
2. It was the only one with a wall charger in the price range.
3. Uses less power than an old electrolux.
4. It was on sale.
5. It's a vacum cleaner and thinking too much about it felt like a headache.
Our oldest Dyson is 11 years old. Still going strong. Our newest one is several years old and still going the same on the same parts and battery. What almost everyone doesn't talk about when knocking on Dyson is the filter system. Alot of these trendy brands do not have a decent filter system. Those of us with pets and allergies know how important the filters are.
This is a weird video and feels like the research was skin deep.... There's a lot that bothered me here, but for starters:
Being cordless is not just a fun tech flourish, it literally changes the way you vacuum. Imagine lugging that metal thing up and down some stairs compared to the handheld options that are available nowadays.
The "vacuum nerds" hate on dyson for some very good reasons, but they also have a massive ludite bend that is just incapable of admitting that tech has moved past a big hunking thing with a dusty bag and wheels.
Not true in the hotel industry Dyson does not exist but we do use expensive vacuums that are costly but are dead quiet. With proper care they last 20 years or more. Dyson is like Bose is in audio equipment is fair. For most people it’s a way better product but only when you get it on sale
@@grahammizzi4368 what part of my comme t is not true then
@@gharel396 lighter vacuums and cordless vacuums have existed before Dyson was around. Cordless doesn't change the way someone vacuums. I would argue that Dyson has done what all great marketing companies have done they touched on how people think they need to have a fancier vacuum or a fancy coffee mug like yeti but their were other options way before they existed. Its more for bragging rights then practical use.
Miele = Mee-la
I used to have a Kirby from 76'. These vacuums are awesome because there is a hatch at the base of the bag that can be empied with a built in bag scraper. When I did have to clean the bag, I just tossed it into the washer. I wish I still had it.
I've got a Bissell Cleanview (~120usd) that I got through an employer's benefits store that has served me faithfully for about 5 years and that's been the handiest vacuum I've used and I've used several thought my life. Even a 40 year old (at the time) Rainbow vacuum. I hated dragging around that 2 piece Rainbow and dumping the water from the collection tank
If you really want to help the environment, buying a vacuum that lasts is a great way of doing so and note that dyson is far from well made at least in my opinion.
Mr. Millionaire Dyson will never get my £. He campaigned for Brexit and then moved his operations out of the UK. What a jerk!
i bought an older model that plugs into the wall where you have a tube that pulls along the sucky part. i bought it on clearance for more than a vacuum should cost but it has never ever worked worse than when i bought it. now that i have learned that vacuums are supposed to have bags, and that they loose suction over time, im glad i bought it.
but i have also never looked for an alternative so there is that.
Growing up my family had a central vac system, i don't know if many know what im talking about but basically we had outlets around our house that we would plug a hose into and that would turn on a vacuum in the garage then through the vacuum hose you would vacuum. Great suction, no bags, no noise, no battery, and you oldy had to empty the pump in the garage like once a month and it was already in the garage next to the trash bin anyhow. I have been spoiled for life on vacuums
My gran has a modern vacuum, but she still has that old school vac saved away and it still works. I'm almost 40 and she had that thing before, still works great