I took delivery of my 2023 model 3 RWD at the end of November, and needless to say I find it rather ironic that we're driving one of the most technologically advanced cars in the world, and yet there's no parking assist functions of any kind. Why Tesla would remove the ultrasonic sensors when Tesla vision isn't ready to take over is beyond me.
@@kevinmiller5467 It's a savings of only $144 per car. I would have gladly paid that (and then some) to be given that feature back. Besides, if they really needed to save money they wouldn't have cut the cost of their vehicles by thousands of dollars. As expensive as these vehicles and FSD is, the USS was one of the cheapest and most reliable pieces of equipment on the cars. Removing it just reeks of pure greed.
@@damonekstrom4363 they cut price to match demand and access more of market and precisely they need to reduce cost. 1.8m cars for 2023 @ 144 is $260m or savings or 2% more profit. Tesla made the decision to rely on vision therefore didn't see the point to keep installing USS. Short term yes it sucks to have no parking assist but you can be sure it will come.
@@Dynamacrtm but that's precisely the $20,000 question isn't it? When will it happen? Tesla started removing the USS back in October, and here we are at the end of January, and Tesla vision is still not ready. The fact that this also makes three of the five features in enhanced autopilot completely useless is also ridiculous. Charging $6,000 for a package of software that doesn't work as intended doesn't make any sense.
A Tesla Model 3 without parking sensors is absolutely ridiculous! Even my 2017 Honda Accord has parking sensors, and that vehicle is much more expensive than my car yet doesn't have a basic feature!
Check the door jam tag to see if the build date is there. Maybe it was built before Elon announced the return of radar. Also, if you're looking to grow your channel, I know a lot of people that would want a detailed video on how to install that homelink module, where to get it, part numbers, etc. Congrats on the new car!
Buying a Tesla is like buying a bag of mixed candy. Does it have the ones I want and like, or, does it just have the candy they want me to have. Greater chance of what they want you to have.
I bought a used 2021 Model 3, and part of that decision was because I wanted the sensors. Now I have them. I don’t care so much about the radar or the self driving capabilities.
Interesting that it still has the radar connector. The upcoming V4 Autopilot system has a new radar with much higher range and resolution, but Tesla outright stated that retrofitting V3 cars would not be feasible. Obviously, that raises the question of what happens if they can't bring full self-driving to people who bought V3 cars and paid for it. One possible solution would be to develop a hardware upgrade which could be easily installed - which may include a radar.
Can you imagine if the Tesla had the F-35's AESA radar that can scan everything ahead of it and communicate that to other vehicles?? That would be SICKKKKKK!
hang on isn't it wildly known that they announced that they will no longer add Radar to their cars and working to use vision as a replacement . did they change their mind recently again and adding it back?? i've got a Y on order in Australia and this car is soo expensive and does not have parking assistance with poor visibly for the Y and just what hoping that tesla vision works someday my old $16K Mazda 2 had sensors
They are trying to use Tesla vision to replace sensor but so far it hasn’t even been released yet and that was promised since September last year. There are rumors that they are re introducing the radar but no concrete news just yet
Considering backing out of my model Y order due to lack of sensors and parking assistance. Seems odd to pay 58k out the door for a car without these. I never trust a “promised future software” when dealing with someone selling me a good or service. May never come before sell vehicle…or ever
I totally understand your concerns. However you can’t buy any electric vehicle better than a Tesla model Y Period.. especially at that incredible price! I would buy it even if it didn’t have seats, and sit on an egg crate. Plus in this case I do have confidence Tesla will add the features back via software. They are the only ones capable being the king of software. Buy with confidence. Dave
It is crazy how much my 2019 model 3 has changed since I got it. It now has 15 miles more range, 50hp more power, completely new UI with more customizability (yes they did listen to feedback from the ui change and I like it now), summon, FSD beta, new car climate settings, more app features like eta of current nav is shown on phone app, (even the break lights displayed on the phone app match the current car tail lights in real time lol), light show, new energy/range consumption page, new airbag and seatbelt pretentioner settings in case of crash, greatly improved highway autopilot (yes tesla vision highway autopilot is better than the radar autopilot the car came with somehow idk but it is magic), better safety systems for collision avoidance, new battery preheating algorithm that noticeably affects charging speed, and i'm sure many more things I didn't list. These are just what I could list off the top of my head.
Just practice parking, you'll be fine! 🙂 My Tesla does not have park assist, but I know how to park and judge distances so it's not a big issue. Now, if I lived in a really tight, crowded European city and had to squeeze into tiny parking spaces every day, that feature would probably be important to me. But I see lots of people complaining they can't even pull into a normal parking space without sensors. This is honestly just a learn to drive issue. We become so dependent on technology to do everything for us that we lose our basic driving skills that even young kids with a new license have. Having said that, I agree Tesla should have had the solution in place before removing the old hardware.
Thanks for the informative video, v disappointing that in 2023 a luxury car does not have any parking sensors or radar. Does Tesla vision/ new cameras have any visual or audio park assist? And are those LED headlights?
Hi Vin. Tesla is working on software to use the cameras as parking sensors. As of now all 2023 model 3 and model Y’s have no parking sensors, no summon, no lain maintain steering. All will supposedly be reactivated when the software is ready The cars do have LED headlights
The ultrasonic sensors are used to maintain the car within the lane lines. However if you read Tesla’s update bulletin you will see that 2023 model 3 and Y without ultrasonic sensors have had park assist, summon and lane assist deactivated until Tesla can update software to allow these features to be reactivated without the aid of ultrasonic sensors. On my 2023 when I try to go to autopilot a message appears that autopilot is not available. What’s more there are no lines on the screen if you get too close to another car or the freeway guardrail. As of today the rumor is Tesla May reinstall USS on the refreshed model 3. I hope I’m not stuck with a car that will never have some variant of park assist. I’m an old man who can hardly drive as it is!
I got my Model Y 2023 from Berlin in December - no USS on that car at least. There was a certain point at the end of 2022 production that you got 2023 cars with USS though.. since they were produced a little while ago (and needed some shipping time to make it in December, Model 3 is not made in Europe). Anyone who get them now gets without USD.
@@AleksanderHoff Yes, my model 3 is from giga shanghai, produced on October 4, 2022. I think I read somewhere that is the starting date for 2023 models. Anyways, when I took my car, the lady told me that USS are on my car because of some EU regulations. Who knows in the end.
Hi, great video. Since you mentioned you were adding homelink I wonder what brackets you used to mount it. I heard some people saying the bracket attaches to the radar bracket, but apparently that is missing since 2023. How did you do it? Can you make a video about it? Thanks!
Hello, So without the USS, you no longer see distances (either in cm/inches) on the screen when driving close to obstacles or reversing? Can someone confirm this?
What's the latest info? What I read it was a filing to FCC that they will be adding HD-radar in January. But not saying to which vehicle. In term of FSD it doesn't make sense to only have it in some of the cars and not others. But can we be sure it's not just something they wanted in the Semi for some reason?
What version of hardware does it have? Hardware 4 is supposed to be updated cameras higher mega pixels for Tesla vision one the software update comes out
HW4 is only known to come in cybertruck. The rest will get it at some time but I think it is way too early to start here. Maybe part of rumoured Project Hyland. Or the could start slower with it on the S and the X.
Doesn’t the car come with software enabled homelink? We just bought a 2018 Model 3 and I thought that’s an option in the software. Do not all Model 3’s come with the “Homelink Universal Transceiver “ mentioned in my manual!
Thanks for the video. Would appreciate if you added "No radar in my Jan 2023 Model 3" or something like that to the video description, but otherwise an informative video. Based on the filed patents, do you see the mounting bracket for potential new radar? I know the filing illustrated a mounting bracket different from the mounting bracket of the old radar system. Curious if you can differentiate since that would indicate the ease of future retrofitting
I'm so glad you didn't give the answer away in the thumb or title!! I would never have come in to find out lol. This way, I had to watch the video to see the answer. Great marketing move, big thumbs up 👍👍👍
Believe it was a cost saving measure, but also suppliers couldn’t keep up with ramp rate of upcoming production… charging more to attempt instead of lowering w economies of scale? They took a moon shot expecting to get vision close, and quickly realized adding something back is needed. Now switching to a new radar altogether is causing delays in supply to meet ramp, which is original issue they had- available in m3 lr exclusively by 2024? -fan fiction?
Hi Dave, My surname is also Fink (Michael, from Melbourne, Australia) and I also own a Model 3 (2020 Performance in my case - so I have ultrasonics and the old radar, which I think is not in use with the new software). I hope for your sake that they release the software to emulate ultrasonics soon.
Good question..I don’t. Since I took delivery on January 19, and the car was in inventory when I ordered it on January 12, I’m guessing it was a very early January build. Thanks for watching.
Tesla Vision will be rolled out............One day. That is the software solution to replace the Ultrasonic sensors. Radar is removed from Teslas and wont be coming back. There is a patent filed for a new type of radar but apparently that is for internal occupancy not external use. Tesla is all in on Cameras and vision software for FSD and Autopilot.
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I took delivery of my 2023 model 3 RWD at the end of November, and needless to say I find it rather ironic that we're driving one of the most technologically advanced cars in the world, and yet there's no parking assist functions of any kind. Why Tesla would remove the ultrasonic sensors when Tesla vision isn't ready to take over is beyond me.
Same, it’s really annoying, I hope Tesla vision comes soon
They did it to save money.
@@kevinmiller5467 It's a savings of only $144 per car. I would have gladly paid that (and then some) to be given that feature back. Besides, if they really needed to save money they wouldn't have cut the cost of their vehicles by thousands of dollars.
As expensive as these vehicles and FSD is, the USS was one of the cheapest and most reliable pieces of equipment on the cars. Removing it just reeks of pure greed.
@@damonekstrom4363 they cut price to match demand and access more of market and precisely they need to reduce cost. 1.8m cars for 2023 @ 144 is $260m or savings or 2% more profit. Tesla made the decision to rely on vision therefore didn't see the point to keep installing USS. Short term yes it sucks to have no parking assist but you can be sure it will come.
@@Dynamacrtm but that's precisely the $20,000 question isn't it? When will it happen? Tesla started removing the USS back in October, and here we are at the end of January, and Tesla vision is still not ready. The fact that this also makes three of the five features in enhanced autopilot completely useless is also ridiculous. Charging $6,000 for a package of software that doesn't work as intended doesn't make any sense.
A Tesla Model 3 without parking sensors is absolutely ridiculous! Even my 2017 Honda Accord has parking sensors, and that vehicle is much more expensive than my car yet doesn't have a basic feature!
My 2004 Corolla was equipped parking assistant radar
@@davidz7858 That proves my point so much more lol. No excuse for a "luxury" Tesla not to have parking sensors!
Nice short video and funny printed information tag WITHOUT RADAR saves a hell lot of a time of you would remove the bumper for checking ^^
Check the door jam tag to see if the build date is there. Maybe it was built before Elon announced the return of radar. Also, if you're looking to grow your channel, I know a lot of people that would want a detailed video on how to install that homelink module, where to get it, part numbers, etc. Congrats on the new car!
Buying a Tesla is like buying a bag of mixed candy. Does it have the ones I want and like, or, does it just have the candy they want me to have.
Greater chance of what they want you to have.
I bought a used 2021 Model 3, and part of that decision was because I wanted the sensors. Now I have them. I don’t care so much about the radar or the self driving capabilities.
Good choice. I actually considered buying a 2022 but am hopeful Tesla will make things right on the 2023.
My understanding is that I'd have to buy an M3 manufactured before May 21 to get the radar; is that correct?
@@chrishyde1216 before September 2022
Interesting that it still has the radar connector. The upcoming V4 Autopilot system has a new radar with much higher range and resolution, but Tesla outright stated that retrofitting V3 cars would not be feasible. Obviously, that raises the question of what happens if they can't bring full self-driving to people who bought V3 cars and paid for it. One possible solution would be to develop a hardware upgrade which could be easily installed - which may include a radar.
I really hope HD radar will be a retrofit option.
I’m hearing that unless your car has hardware 4 there’s no way to update.
@@finksautomotive3912 would be a big bummer. Thanks.
Can you imagine if the Tesla had the F-35's AESA radar that can scan everything ahead of it and communicate that to other vehicles?? That would be SICKKKKKK!
There is no radar since they stop using. I think Tesla believe camera is better than radar. However I think differ.
Welcome to 2023 😁
hang on isn't it wildly known that they announced that they will no longer add Radar to their cars and working to use vision as a replacement . did they change their mind recently again and adding it back?? i've got a Y on order in Australia and this car is soo expensive and does not have parking assistance with poor visibly for the Y and just what hoping that tesla vision works someday my old $16K Mazda 2 had sensors
They are trying to use Tesla vision to replace sensor but so far it hasn’t even been released yet and that was promised since September last year. There are rumors that they are re introducing the radar but no concrete news just yet
I had Jeep Cherokee KK 2008 with rear parking senzor, now have Jeep Cherokee KL 2016 with front and rear parking senzor 🙂
Considering backing out of my model Y order due to lack of sensors and parking assistance. Seems odd to pay 58k out the door for a car without these. I never trust a “promised future software” when dealing with someone selling me a good or service. May never come before sell vehicle…or ever
I totally understand your concerns. However you can’t buy any electric vehicle better than a Tesla model Y Period.. especially at that incredible price! I would buy it even if it didn’t have seats, and sit on an egg crate. Plus in this case I do have confidence Tesla will add the features back via software. They are the only ones capable being the king of software. Buy with confidence.
Dave
It is crazy how much my 2019 model 3 has changed since I got it. It now has 15 miles more range, 50hp more power, completely new UI with more customizability (yes they did listen to feedback from the ui change and I like it now), summon, FSD beta, new car climate settings, more app features like eta of current nav is shown on phone app, (even the break lights displayed on the phone app match the current car tail lights in real time lol), light show, new energy/range consumption page, new airbag and seatbelt pretentioner settings in case of crash, greatly improved highway autopilot (yes tesla vision highway autopilot is better than the radar autopilot the car came with somehow idk but it is magic), better safety systems for collision avoidance, new battery preheating algorithm that noticeably affects charging speed, and i'm sure many more things I didn't list. These are just what I could list off the top of my head.
@@finksautomotive3912 Check the Genesis GV60, the Model Y is not close in my opinion other than range is better.
Just practice parking, you'll be fine! 🙂 My Tesla does not have park assist, but I know how to park and judge distances so it's not a big issue. Now, if I lived in a really tight, crowded European city and had to squeeze into tiny parking spaces every day, that feature would probably be important to me. But I see lots of people complaining they can't even pull into a normal parking space without sensors. This is honestly just a learn to drive issue. We become so dependent on technology to do everything for us that we lose our basic driving skills that even young kids with a new license have. Having said that, I agree Tesla should have had the solution in place before removing the old hardware.
I have never had parking sensors on my car, and never touched anything with it. Just drive carefully.
Like many things you’ve lived without, once you get sucked in to an option you like, it’s hard to give it up.
@@finksautomotive3912 especially when told the car has said feature.
What do you expect from a manufacturer that doesn't include the battery charger? Or sells FSD that isn't FSD.
Elon never said teslas built in January would have radar.
Elon also said no retrofits.
Thanks for the informative video, v disappointing that in 2023 a luxury car does not have any parking sensors or radar. Does Tesla vision/ new cameras have any visual or audio park assist? And are those LED headlights?
Hi Vin. Tesla is working on software to use the cameras as parking sensors. As of now all 2023 model 3 and model Y’s have no parking sensors, no summon, no lain maintain steering. All will supposedly be reactivated when the software is ready
The cars do have LED headlights
@@finksautomotive3912 they all have the lane maintain steering with autopilot. That’s not from sensors
@@finksautomotive3912 I think you're confused about the lane maintain steering. Yes, they all have this feature.
The ultrasonic sensors are used to maintain the car within the lane lines. However if you read Tesla’s update bulletin you will see that 2023 model 3 and Y without ultrasonic sensors have had park assist, summon and lane assist deactivated until Tesla can update software to allow these features to be reactivated without the aid of ultrasonic sensors. On my 2023 when I try to go to autopilot a message appears that autopilot is not available. What’s more there are no lines on the screen if you get too close to another car or the freeway guardrail. As of today the rumor is Tesla May reinstall USS on the refreshed model 3. I hope I’m not stuck with a car that will never have some variant of park assist. I’m an old man who can hardly drive as it is!
@@finksautomotive3912 did you update your Tesla? Tesla vision keeps you within lanes with autopilot. If not make a service request that is not normal
This is one of the reasons why I'm looking for a used Model 3, rather than new.
I got my Model Y for 80k right before Elon, God bless him, announced the 55k Model Y..
I took delivery of my 2023 model 3LR in December 2022 and it came with USS. I am from EU so maybe rules and deliveries for EU market are different.
Thanks Baro. I think they removed USS from the North American market only. But not totally sure. Your very lucky to still have them.
Dave
I got my Model Y 2023 from Berlin in December - no USS on that car at least. There was a certain point at the end of 2022 production that you got 2023 cars with USS though.. since they were produced a little while ago (and needed some shipping time to make it in December, Model 3 is not made in Europe). Anyone who get them now gets without USD.
@@AleksanderHoff Yes, my model 3 is from giga shanghai, produced on October 4, 2022. I think I read somewhere that is the starting date for 2023 models. Anyways, when I took my car, the lady told me that USS are on my car because of some EU regulations. Who knows in the end.
Hi, great video. Since you mentioned you were adding homelink I wonder what brackets you used to mount it. I heard some people saying the bracket attaches to the radar bracket, but apparently that is missing since 2023. How did you do it? Can you make a video about it? Thanks!
Hello,
So without the USS, you no longer see distances (either in cm/inches) on the screen when driving close to obstacles or reversing?
Can someone confirm this?
Yes
Informative. But I am not convinced that USS and Radar adds much functionality.
What's the latest info? What I read it was a filing to FCC that they will be adding HD-radar in January. But not saying to which vehicle. In term of FSD it doesn't make sense to only have it in some of the cars and not others. But can we be sure it's not just something they wanted in the Semi for some reason?
Regarding sensors, I recommend you to enter service mode.
There you can see the cameras etc.
What version of hardware does it have? Hardware 4 is supposed to be updated cameras higher mega pixels for Tesla vision one the software update comes out
HW4 is only known to come in cybertruck. The rest will get it at some time but I think it is way too early to start here. Maybe part of rumoured Project Hyland.
Or the could start slower with it on the S and the X.
When was your car build?
Hi. After assembling the home link it just working
Doesn’t the car come with software enabled homelink? We just bought a 2018 Model 3 and I thought that’s an option in the software. Do not all Model 3’s come with the “Homelink Universal Transceiver “ mentioned in my manual!
Thanks for the video. Would appreciate if you added "No radar in my Jan 2023 Model 3" or something like that to the video description, but otherwise an informative video.
Based on the filed patents, do you see the mounting bracket for potential new radar? I know the filing illustrated a mounting bracket different from the mounting bracket of the old radar system. Curious if you can differentiate since that would indicate the ease of future retrofitting
Thanks Lucas. Great suggestion. I will make the title change. I did not remove the bumper cover so not sure about the mounting bracket. Dave
I agree. The title change would nice.
Sad to see Tesla removed the radar and is selling cars proactively without yet a replacement
How else you expect the general audience to click and watch the video. Clickbaity titles are the new norm
I'm so glad you didn't give the answer away in the thumb or title!! I would never have come in to find out lol. This way, I had to watch the video to see the answer. Great marketing move, big thumbs up 👍👍👍
@@mhatrey Was thinking the exact same thing...no one would click on the video if he changed the name! 🤣🤷🏽♂
Believe it was a cost saving measure, but also suppliers couldn’t keep up with ramp rate of upcoming production… charging more to attempt instead of lowering w economies of scale? They took a moon shot expecting to get vision close, and quickly realized adding something back is needed. Now switching to a new radar altogether is causing delays in supply to meet ramp, which is original issue they had- available in m3 lr exclusively by 2024? -fan fiction?
Doesn't the radar really sit near the front bumper? Still, your point about the free connector + label negates my comment.
So disappointing. Here's hoping a retrofit will be available in the future...
They will rely on cameras. They been told us.
Hi Dave, My surname is also Fink (Michael, from Melbourne, Australia) and I also own a Model 3 (2020 Performance in my case - so I have ultrasonics and the old radar, which I think is not in use with the new software). I hope for your sake that they release the software to emulate ultrasonics soon.
Hi Mike. I agree I have confidence that Tesla will do what they promised. Great family name!
no radar but whiskers
Doss it have the front and rear castings?
Do you know what day in January your Model 3 was built?
Good question..I don’t. Since I took delivery on January 19, and the car was in inventory when I ordered it on January 12, I’m guessing it was a very early January build. Thanks for watching.
I purchased my model 3 about same time. It is a 2023 model and does not have Radar^@$%@
when did i miss the 7k discount ?
It wasn’t a $7K discount. He exaggerated. It was a roughly 7% discount or $3K. I ought to know. I bought one on the 14th.
Where's the "frunk". Why does it look like it has an engine. Where was this Tesla Built?
The frunk is the front trunk. This car was built in Fremont California
He has already removed the "tub" for the frunk before shooting the video.
Tesla Vision will be rolled out............One day. That is the software solution to replace the Ultrasonic sensors. Radar is removed from Teslas and wont be coming back. There is a patent filed for a new type of radar but apparently that is for internal occupancy not external use. Tesla is all in on Cameras and vision software for FSD and Autopilot.
No the answer is no. Everyone knows this
If he reduces price by $7,000 then he has to reduce cost as well in order to maintain a super healthy margin so he can put the old Dogs of Detroit to ruins!
Promo-SM
You should have recorded in a higher-resolution I struggle to even watch this video hurt my eyes 👀
Im a better mechanic than videographer! I'll work on that
You are uninformed.