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- Motorcycle plastics are often discarded because of small cracks in the fairing. Many people don't know that PlastiFix can provide a very strong repair on these plastics. PlastiFix Rigid Plastic Repair Kits are a revolutionary thermoset methacrylate monomer adhesive system that allows you to repair cracks, fill gaps and fabricate missing pieces!
In this video, we will recreate the missing piece so that it matches the piece on the opposite side.
Look below for links to some of the products from the video. View this video on our website for more information and product suggestions for this repair: www.polyvance.com/video/plast...
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- 2020-T SMC Hardset Filler (Tube Kit): www.polyvance.com/Hardset-Fil...
Chapters:
Intro: 0:00
The damaged area: 0:10
Prepping the PlastiFix Kit: 0:25
Grinding the plastic: 0:58
Using aluminum tape to create a support: 1:34
Applying the PlastiFix (sprinkle method): 1:58
Removing the aluminum tape 2:56
Cutting and laying down fiberglass drywall tape: 3:08
Applying the PlastiFix (sprinkle method): 3:18
Shaping: 3:48
Making a pattern for the contour: 4:06
Attach the pattern to the part: 4:49
Applying filler: 5:02
Sand the filler: 5:17
Shaping: 5:52
Sanding: 6:12
Spraying a primer surfacer: 6:23
Applying a topcoat: 6:44
Final look: 7:06
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- The length of this video is in no way representative of the actual time required to perform a complete repair and therefore should not be used for estimating purposes.
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View this video on on our website for helpful information and product suggestions for this repair: www.polyvance.com/video/plastifix/create-missing-pieces-on-cracked-and-broken-street-bike-fairing
Here are some answers to common questions about the video:
Where can I get PlastiFix?
We cannot ship PlastiFix overseas due to hazmat restrictions. If you are in the United States, you can buy it from us. If you are in the UK, WOW! (www.wowauto.eu/) may still have some available.
Is PlastiFix just super glue (CA glue) and baking soda?
No! PlastiFix is a special type methylmethacryalte designed for ABS, PC, Acrylics and other hard plastics. Super glue only bonds to the surface of the plastic. It is also very brittle and only has about 30% the strength of a PlastiFix repair on hard plastics.
PlastiFix chemically etches itself into the plastic and should not fail.
Plastifix uses a liquid monomer to polymerize the powder to form MMA plastic in an exothermic chemical reaction. The most common forms of MMA include acrylic and lucite. The individual components have no adhesive properties without the chemical reaction of the two ingredients, unlike super glue. Because the components can be reacted directly on the surface to be bonded, the added benefit is that the reaction incorporates the surface molecules of the base plastic, creating a chemical as well as physical bond on some materials. The chemical AND physical bond make this type of repair extremely durable and impact resistant, plus it is sandable and easily painted, unlike super glue type repairs.
Can I use PlastiFix on all plastics?
No. PlastiFix only works on ABS, PC and other hard plastics. It will not work on nylon very well, and not at all on PP or PE plastics. You should use a plastic welder on those types of plastics.
Ima need to watch 2more times n write these steps down u made it look so easy
Finally i found the right way to fix the cracked/lost part of plastic.
Thank's for sharing tihs dude.
Thanks for watching! We hope it helps!
These days most people would just use ramen noodle to repair that.
This is a much more reliable method than dry noodles!
Awesome.. very professional very impressive
Thank you!
Amazing 👏
Going to look into purchasing this for my old scoot.
Let us know if you have any questions!
Ahhhhmm what are the name of products that you use for the repair
Very impressive 👌
Thanks for watching!
Bloody Brilliant
Thanks!
I find it amazing that so many wont even look into something before making BS comparisons to things like baking soda and CA adhesive. I will be getting some of this and taking it to my Fiero club (and kit car) friends for repair that will be better than fiber glassing most likely. I have been using Plexxus epoxy for my repairs and this for smaller areas may even be better.
Baking Soda and CA dry brittle and very hard. It does not do well in high vibration applications.
That's awesome! Thanks for the support! Feel free to call us if you have any questions about the product.
I'd give you a dozen thumbs up, but youtube only allows one. Fieros would be a perfect car for this product, they have a lot of ABS and other hard plastics that PlastiFix would work great on. Its one of my favorite products!
Thanks a lot bro.
Thanks for watching!
Great Video. Looks to me like you've taken finely ground down abs and acetone to make sort of a quick drying solution. Thanks for the body tips!
I'm glad you liked our video. The material in the kit is actually a liquid monomer that chemically reacts with the powder to create an acrylic plastic. While the reaction is occurring, the liquid monomer will "burn in" to the fairing plastic to chemically weld itself to the fairing plastic.
very nice job i will try this into my car bumber
Unless you have a rare polycarbonate or aftermarket ABS bumper, Plastifix would not be a good choice. Most bumpers are made of polypropylene or urethane, which PlastiFix does not bond well to.
Well crap lol I’ve been plastic welding and filling and etc for the past 3 years finally found something that is more efficient and create what I need , a must get for sure
Just remember, this only work on acrylic, ABS, PC and other hard plastics. It will not work on nylon very well, and not at all on PP or PE plastics.
@@scottb7600 True allthough there are also superglue variants especially for plastics like PP and PE.
Ray, This is NOT a CA (super-glue) type glue. Those are Cyanoacrylates and this is a Methymethacrylate...different animals altogether, even though they share some common molecular chains. The CAs formulated for PE and PP produce only a marginally better bond than CA's not formulated for those plastics. All of these bonds, even the special formulations, can be considered poor and should not be considered a permanent repair. They can be useful for stabilizing PP and PE while they are permanently repaired by welding.
@@scottb7600 Thanks Scott, I have not had the oppertunity to put such a glue through its paces as I also just weld it.
@@tiny6912 Same! :-) PlastiFix on ABS is #1 though. I almost always use it instead of welding on anything ABS or acrylic...its that good.
Amazing
Thank you!
Sir you deserve it,
Respirator while painting? Of course not!!
This doesn't help my problem but it's pretty cool stuff
Thanks for watching!
Excelent
Thank you!
So which kit did you use because it looked like you needed a lot of your product to fix. Not sure if i want to spend 120 dollars every time i need to fix fairings.
the small kit. Unlike other adhesives, there is essentially no waste because its mixed in place, so it tends to go further than one might expect.
Can this be used on plastic motorcycle gas tanks for repairs?
No, it cannot. Gas would dissolve PlastiFix. The gas tank would have to be welded. They are typically polyethylene.
I got more pin holes after this process how to avoid that
I'm not sure how you got pinholes. Were they in the filler or the PlastiFix? The only way I can think of to get pinholes in PlastiFix is to mix it in a cup, then pour into place. If you do that you can stir in air, but when you go to finish it, any pinhole can be addressed with spot putty or a high build primer surfacer.
Hope do notice me, how about on front panel sidings of motorcycle that the other part is lost but some is recovered?
i am interested in this field, would you like to teach me? there is no art like this in Indonesia
Hope do notice me, how about on the sidings of front panel in scooter type?
As long as its ABS or similar plastic, this repair process will work. Look on the backside of the repair to see if you can fine an ID mark to tell you what it is to help you ID it.
Polymerization time?
thats great and all but the true quality of the repair wont show until the light is back in the hole. thats what i and probably everyone else wanted to see
0:51 this looks like Breaking Bad
What if there’s a legit hole in the middle of the fairing? It can patch it up no problem?
YES! I've patched holes as big as 6 in x 6 in with PlastiFix. All I did was bevel the edges of the hole, taped the backside with Polyvance's foil tape (its 2x as thick as stuff you can get at most stores) and shaped it to the rough shape I wanted and laid one layer of glass cloth on the tape. Filled over it with Plastifix using the sprinkle method, let it cure, sanded the back, added some more cloth and PF to the back an then when that cured and when I was satisfied I got it thick enough, I used 2020 flex filler on the front to finish the contouring of the part. Even tapping on it you can't tell where the repair was, the inside was a little lumpy, but nobody will ever see that!
Супер клей + сода или соль. Тот же самый эффект только дешевле
Plastifix uses a liquid monomer to polymerize the powder to form MMA plastic in an exothermic chemical reaction. The most common forms of MMA include acrylic and lucite. The individual components have no adhesive properties without the chemical reaction of the two ingredients, unlike super glue. Because the components can be reacted directly on the surface to be bonded, the added benefit is that the reaction incorporates the surface molecules of the base plastic, creating a chemical as well as physical bond on some materials. The chemical AND physical bond make this type of repair extremely durable and impact resistant, plus it is sandable and easily painted, unlike super-glue or gorilla glue type repairs.
Plus, our PlastiFix Kits aren't that expensive.
Can I get this material at home Depot?
No. However, you can find all of our products on our website www.polyvance.com.
How it will stand the freezing temperatures? Will it crack?
Nope! I used this same product, but the clear version, on a B-25 Bomber machine gun turret canopy. It goes from 70 deg on the ground to well below freezing in the air with no issues.
Scott B Its just superglue and backing soda.
@@pangrac1 .....it is most definitely NOT super glue and baking soda. Buy some and see for yourself.
@@scottb7600 So it isnt cyanoacrylate and it doesnt smell like one?
PlastiFix is a special type methylmethacrylate designed for ABS, PC, Acrylics and other hard plastics. Superglue only bonds to the surface of the plastic. It is also very brittle and only has about 30% the strength of a PlastiFix repair on hard plastics. PlastiFix chemically etches itself into the plastic and should not fail.
Plastifix uses a liquid monomer to polymerize the powder to form MMA plastic in an exothermic chemical reaction. The most common forms of MMA include acrylic and lucite. The individual components have no adhesive properties without the chemical reaction of the two ingredients, unlike super glue. Because the components can be reacted directly on the surface to be bonded, the added benefit is that the reaction incorporates the surface molecules of the base plastic, creating a chemical as well as physical bond on some materials. The chemical AND physical bond make this type of repair extremely durable and impact resistant, plus it is sandable and easily painted, unlike super-glue or gorilla glue type repairs.
Where can you buy plastafix?
www.polyvance.com www.polyvance.com/PlastiFix-Kits-1/
Yes, you can find PlastiFix at the link Scott has provided. We also have links to all of our products used in our videos. Just click the description box in any of our videos to find the products!
Sell to Canada?
Is this just fine sand and industrial super glue?
No. Superglue is a cyanoacrylate adhesive and only bonds to the surface of the plastic. It is also very brittle and only has about 30% the strength of a PlastiFix repair on hard plastics.
The PlastiFix liquid is not adhesive by itself...it requires the powder to cause a chemical reaction. The resulting compound etches itself into the plastic and doesn't just stick to it.
what is that materials, is it available in india? how much its cost
Sorry, we cannot ship PlastiFix to India.
Where can I buy this kit in UK ?
WOW! carries our PlastiFix in the UK (www.wowauto.eu/). You can contact them to get some.
@@polyvance Cheers
@@polyvance How to order?
@@christopherabenoja7831 If you are in the United States, call us at 800-633-3047 to place your order.
If you are in the UK, contact WOW! (www.wowauto.eu/) to see if they have any they can sell to you.
If you are located anywhere else, you will not be able to order any.
Can I repair plastic type PC? It's a dashboard.
No. If its a hard dash, its ABS and you should use ABS rod or PlastiFix. Although PC and ABS are often blended for injection molding, its next to impossible to get them to combine in a weld (Welding ABS with PC rod for example)
@@scottb7600 but i will welding PC with PC. Is it possible?
If you're sure its PC, then yes, PC to PC is ideal. I have never seen a PC dash however...this doesn't mean they do not exist, they would just be rare.
Thumbs up
Here is the link to the bits: www.polyvance.com/Die-Grinder-Bits-1/6121-T/ and www.polyvance.com/Die-Grinder-Bits-1/6122/
All of the products we used are on the webpage for this video, which is linked in the description: www.polyvance.com/video/plastifix/create-missing-pieces-on-cracked-and-broken-street-bike-fairing
You can do the same with baking soda and superglue
No. The result is way more brittle than PlastiFix.
PlastiFix chemically etches itself into the plastic and should not fail.
PlastiFix uses a liquid monomer to polymerize the powder to form MMA plastic in an exothermic chemical reaction. The individual components have no adhesive properties without the chemical reaction of the two ingredients, unlike super glue. Because the components can be reacted directly on the surface to be bonded, the added benefit is that the reaction incorporates the surface molecules of the base plastic, creating a chemical as well as physical bond on some materials. The chemical AND physical bond make this type of repair extremely durable and impact resistant, plus it is sandable and easily painted, unlike super glue type repairs.
Not true. Its not the same chemistry at all, even though it looks similar in how its applied.
Incredible! Too bad this kit is unavaiable in sweden, and too expensive to ship
Yes it is. IT really is a great product, but due to flammability regulations, it cannot be shipped by air easily or cheaply. We do have a distributor in England named Wow! and they may be able to get you the product more easily.
Thanks!
Where can I buy this in UK ?
What is the filler??
The filler used at 5:04 is www.polyvance.com/Hardset-Filler-1/2020-T/
Can I just use fiberglass hair instead?
Yes, but it will not be as strong because it only bonds to the surface, it doesn't make a chemical bond like PlastiFix.
I prefer to build with a plastic welder and abs plastic.
You can definitely weld with a plastic welder and abs plastic! If you aren't aware, we make and sell nitrogen plastic welders.
However, we wanted to show how people can repair this type of plastic without a plastic welder. PlastiFix is an easy-to-use, low-cost product that is great for DIYers. If the repair is done properly on ABS, it will not be any more prone to breaking in the repair area than the original part.
my girlfriend uses the exact same materials to make false nails Try the beauty supplies .
Sorry, the PlastiFix powder and liquid are not the "exact same materials" that are used for acrylic nails. They are indeed chemically similar. But they are not exactly the same.
@@polyvance sorry my mistake but they do have the same name .
@@polyvance Does it contain MMA?
@@phxfunfly9083 Yes it does contain MMA, but like epoxies, there a wide range of chemistries and this formulation is optimized for repairing ABS and other hard plastic parts. We've used formulations designed for the dental industry, nails and other industries for comparison, but this one is the best for general repair. The nails formulation had poor adhesion to plastic and was soft. Whereas the dental formulation bonded well but was very, very expensive.
Sodium bicarbonate and loctite, job done
Baking soda and super glue will not give you this kind of strength.
PlastiFix is a special type methylmethacryalte designed for ABS, PC, Acrylics and other hard plastics.
Super glue only bonds to the surface of the plastic. It is also very brittle and only has about 30% the strength of a PlastiFix repair on hard plastics.
PlastiFix chemically etches itself into the plastic and should not fail.
Plastifix uses a liquid monomer to polymerize the powder to form MMA plastic in an exothermic chemical reaction. The most common forms of MMA include acrylic and lucite. The individual components have no adhesive properties without the chemical reaction of the two ingredients, unlike super glue.
Because the components can be reacted directly on the surface to be bonded, the added benefit is that the reaction incorporates the surface molecules of the base plastic, creating a chemical as well as physical bond on some materials. The chemical AND physical bond make this type of repair extremely durable and impact resistant, plus it is sandable and easily painted, unlike super glue type repairs.
baking soda with super glue or abs powder with acetone ?
Neither! It definitely isn't baking soda and super glue. The individual components have no adhesive properties without the chemical reaction of the two ingredients, unlike super glue.
It is not ABS powder and acetone, either. PlastiFix is a liquid monomer and a powdered resin. PlastiFix has several big advantages over ABS and acetone. It doesn't shrink when curing like ABS and acetone, it doesn't embrittle like ABS and acetone, and it will bond to a wide variety of materials, other than just ABS! PlastiFix creates a chemical, rather just physical bond to ABS and other plastics.
Looks like superglue and bicarbonate of soda
Looks like it, but it is most definitely not the same chemistry at all. PlastiFix powder and liquid react to for an acrylic, which has good impact resistance and comparable flexibility and strength to the original plastic. Super glue and baking soda, is, well, still super glue and baking soda...brittle, not all that strong, and extremely difficult to sand.
Use bakinh soda and cheap super glue
This repair is stronger. Super Glue and baking soda is very brittle and does not chemically bond to ABS. It cracks easily and is hard to sand.
However, PlastiFix chemically etches itself to ABS and the final product is acrylic, which has very similar properties to the original plastic part.
@@polyvance Maybe i am using it for 3 years now. Maybe your right hehe.
@@YEKYEKTV the issues will happen if yours gets flexed. It will fail.
Cheap superglue and talcum powder will give a similar result. Used it on my ZZR1100 fairing.
The result is way more brittle than PlastiFix.
PlastiFix chemically etches itself into the plastic and should not fail.
PlastiFix uses a liquid monomer to polymerize the powder to form MMA plastic in an exothermic chemical reaction. The individual components have no adhesive properties without the chemical reaction of the two ingredients, unlike super glue. Because the components can be reacted directly on the surface to be bonded, the added benefit is that the reaction incorporates the surface molecules of the base plastic, creating a chemical as well as physical bond on some materials. The chemical AND physical bond make this type of repair extremely durable and impact resistant, plus it is sandable and easily painted, unlike super glue type repairs.
Talc and superglue = Brittle + weak. PlastiFix, which is a a two part reaction to form PMMA = Impact resistant + strong. They are totally different chemistries and just because something looks similar, doesn't mean its functionally the same.
Yes it is not ideal by itself. However, with a couple of strips of fibreglass tape, and perhaps an epoxy finish, it is a different animal. My approach is for the guy who is on a budget. It does hold well. Peace.
Zzr1100....my man!!!!
Lots of work....i see why folks just buy new plastics
music shit’s me!
So it's a repair done with baking soda and crazy glue.
No. Please read some previous comments. This is NOT a CA glue. The liquid is non adhesive by itself and requires the powder to cause a chemical reaction. The resulting compound etches itself INTO the plastic and doesn't just stick to it.
Super glue and baking soda
Baking soda and super glue will not give you this kind of strength.
PlastiFix is a special type methylmethacryalte designed for ABS, PC, Acrylics and other hard plastics.
Super glue only bonds to the surface of the plastic. It is also very brittle and only has about 30% the strength of a PlastiFix repair on hard plastics.
PlastiFix chemically etches itself into the plastic and should not fail.
Plastifix uses a liquid monomer to polymerize the powder to form MMA plastic in an exothermic chemical reaction. The most common forms of MMA include acrylic and lucite. The individual components have no adhesive properties without the chemical reaction of the two ingredients, unlike super glue.
Because the components can be reacted directly on the surface to be bonded, the added benefit is that the reaction incorporates the surface molecules of the base plastic, creating a chemical as well as physical bond on some materials. The chemical AND physical bond make this type of repair extremely durable and impact resistant, plus it is sandable and easily painted, unlike super glue type repairs.
Good grief...did you not watch the video? This is nowhere near the same chemistry of baking soda and super glue. The liquid in this material is a liquid monomer and has no adhesive properties by itself. It REACTS with the powder to form an acrylic adhesive that chemically etches itself into the surface of ABS. Super glue creates a surface bond only and is extremely brittle, very hard and not durable. Plastifix is tough, and behaves almost identically to the original ABS substrate.
Baking soda and epoxy or ultra thin superglue. That's all I'm gonna say. I repaired all the plastics on a 97 VFR using epoxy, baking soda, ultra thin super glue and fiberglass cloth.
Your method doesn't even compare. This method is far stronger and MUCH more impact resistant. I've tried your method as well, and yes it does hold, but if it gets bumped or stressed it shatters due to the brittleness. The bond between the plastic and the filler material is also weak compared to PlastiFix.
Looks like fibreglass after curing.
Bicarb and superglue lol
Not at all. Superglue is a cyanoacrylate adhesive and only bonds to the surface of the plastic. It is also very brittle and only has about 30% the strength of a PlastiFix repair on hard plastics.
Dont be stupid, powder is ABS plastic, and liquid stuff is acetone
100% Wrong! Its a liquid monomer and a powdered resin. PlastiFix has several big advantages over ABS and acetone. It doesn't shrink when curing like ABS and acetone, it doesn't become brittle like ABS and acetone AND it will bond to a wide variety of materials, other than just ABS to ABS!
Dafuq is with this music? The thing you are doing is like a calm, creative, patient activity, but u got heavy metal in the background... Its like watching a vegan eat a McDonald's cheeseburger.
Sorry you don't like the music. This video is almost three years old. The music on our newer videos has been changed.
@@polyvance Thanks. Its not that I don't like that type of music. It just wasn't fitting lol
Isn't this the same as super glue + baking soda?!
Nope, no super glue or baking soda in PlastiFix! PlastiFix is a special type methylmethacryalte designed for ABS, PC, Acrylics and other hard plastics.
Here's the big difference:
Super glue only bonds to the surface of the plastic. It is also very brittle and only has about 30% the strength of a PlastiFix repair on hard plastics.
PlastiFix chemically etches itself into the plastic and should not fail. Plastifix uses a liquid monomer to polymerize the powder to form MMA plastic in an exothermic chemical reaction.
The individual components of PlastiFix have no adhesive properties without the chemical reaction of the two ingredients, unlike super glue. Because the components can be reacted directly on the surface to be bonded, the added benefit is that the reaction incorporates the surface molecules of the base plastic, creating a chemical as well as physical bond on some materials. The chemical AND physical bond make this type of repair extremely durable and impact resistant, plus it is sandable and easily painted, unlike super glue type repairs.
no. PlastiFix is methylmethacrylate and the liquid is a liquid monomer which reacts with the powder, which when cure is basically acrylic plastic. The liquid alone, if put on the part has no bonding qualities. On ABS, there is no comparison in the strength of the repair, PlastiFix will win every time.
time cost material cost ...
Buying a new one from china would be cheaper.
Bicarbonate of soda with super glue. Same thing
Nope! PlastiFix is a special type methylmethacryalte designed for ABS, PC, Acrylics and other hard plastics. Super glue only bonds to the surface of the plastic. It is also very brittle and only has about 30% the strength of a PlastiFix repair on hard plastics.
PlastiFix chemically etches itself into the plastic and should not fail.
Plastifix uses a liquid monomer to polymerize the powder to form MMA plastic in an exothermic chemical reaction. The most common forms of MMA include acrylic and lucite. The individual components have no adhesive properties without the chemical reaction of the two ingredients, unlike super glue. Because the components can be reacted directly on the surface to be bonded, the added benefit is that the reaction incorporates the surface molecules of the base plastic, creating a chemical as well as physical bond on some materials. The chemical AND physical bond make this type of repair extremely durable and impact resistant, plus it is sandable and easily painted, unlike super glue type repairs.
It is NOT soda and super glue. Read down the comments for a full explanation.
@@scottb7600 so what you are saying is that soda and superglue will do the same job???!!?
@@tianamaro9348 No, it will not. Soda and CA glue form a very brittle material with low impact strength compared to PlastiFix. CA glue bonds only to the surface of the plastic and when flexed or is bumped, it tends to break at the joint or shatter easily. Plastifix on the other hand, chemically etches itself into the original material creating a bond that can't be beat. Once cured, Plastifix forms a crosslinked acrylic, which has similar properties to the original material (ABS) and has much higher impact and bond strength.
@@scottb7600 so you are saying it's almost the same as carb and superglue
Sorry, it’s cool, but I’d just buy a new fairing piece.
It's not the same material...it will eventually crack...and they know it...waste of money and time ...buy a used undamaged one and paint it
Horse-pucky. I have been using this for 14 years on motorcycles, airplanes, car interiors and anything I find made of ABS, or acrylic and have NEVER had a failure!
what a stupid complicated system